Air Force Academy considering dropping ‘So help me God’ from oath — Megyn Kelly interviews man behind push

This is patently ridiculous! Saying “So help me God” doesn’t even come close to being unconstitutional. Mikey Weinstein, president of Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is the one pushing for the change and says it violates the religious test portion of the Constitution. How so? In this day and age ‘God’ can mean anything to anybody…at least that’s what our culture has been telling us for years. But even more so it’s a proclamation, not a religious test. And if people don’t want to say it then they don’t have to say it, nor do they have to join our volunteer military.

This is nothing more than militant atheism trying to remove God from the public square and trying to twist the Constitution in knots to make it mean what they want it to mean. Plus, this Weinstein joker is a real, pardon the expression, jackass. If you don’t believe me just watch his interview on Megyn Kelly’s show. She was nothing but classy and he was a jerk from beginning to the end.

FOX NEWS – The Air Force Academy is considering dropping the phrase “so help me God’ from its honor oath after the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) filed a complaint.

The Academy’s Honor Review Committee met Wednesday to review the oath in response to the MRFF complaint, said Public Affairs Director Maj. Brus Vidal.

“They considered a range of options and some of those options will be presented to Academy leaders and, ultimately, the Academy Superintendent for a decision,” he said.

The current version of the Academy’s oath reads: “We will not lie, steal or cheat nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Furthermore, I resolve to do my duty and live honorably, so help me God.”

Last week, the Colorado Springs Independent newspaper published a photograph of a poster at the academy which included the oath. The newspaper then forwarded the photo to MRFF President Mikey Weinstein.

Weinstein, a frequent critic of Christianity in the armed forces, wrote a letter to Academy Superintendent Lt. Gen. Michelle Johnson. Weinstein said she responded 68 minutes later.

“The Prep School poster has been taken down,” she wrote in an email reply posted by the Independent. “We are assessing the situation and have many mission elements, to include Prep School leadership, the Honor Review Committee and other entities on base, working to put together a way ahead that is respectful to all perspectives.”

While the poster has been removed, the phrase “so help me God” remains as part of the oath.

Vidal told the Air Force Times they could either make no change, make the God part optional or strike the entire oath.

“We value an inclusive environment that promotes dignity and respect for all,” Vidal told the newspaper.


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  • DarkKnight2016

    The atheist said that he understands that he is in “Fox world”, Megyn looked at him like “Fox world”? Then he says “yes Fox world, it’s a great place where up is down and down is up”. Notice that is where the liberals go when they lose the argument.

    • LoJoFo

      They just project the awful truth of their own choices (calling evil good and good, evil) onto those who would like to deal in reality. They are the definition of evil. Unrepentant. They will be defeated.

      “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”–Is. 5:20

    • SisterMary

      “Change must be top-down, bottom-up and inside-out.” Van Jones 2011 Union Delegates Conference

    • warpmine

      Never argue facts when they don’t fall on your side, immediately throw insults where none are called for. She called him out on not answering her question so he felt it necessary to go on the offensive of insulting where Megan works. Weinstein must have his head firmly stuck up his butt to miss just how liberal FNC has become.

  • ApplePie101

    Not to minimize the cultural importance of this subject, but I believe it’s a tactic to make conservatives expend energy in multiple side issues, so they have less energy and attention to devote to big battles, like Obamacare and growth of government.

    In fact, the response is simple: Christians, continue saying ‘So help me God.”

    • Garym

      You have to be willing to fight them on all fronts ………. or just give up.

      • ApplePie101

        Militarily, that isn’t the case. An army with limited resources has to pick the battles where it can do the most damage to the enemy. George Washington wanted to fight the British in New York, but was persuaded to instead fight them in Yorktown, and effectively won the war. That wouldn’t have happened if he’d tried to fight them on all fronts.

        I’m not saying that this isn’t a serious attack on our rights, but rather that I think it can be repelled by civil disobedience. I’d be sorry to think that we Christians don’t have strength enough to adhere to Christian language in spite of atheist persecution.

        • Garym

          I personally think that our military is now compromised. The progressive horde has infiltrated it and they are damaging its traditions a piece at a time. They will eventually make it so toxic that god fearing, gun loving, red blooded, Americans will no longer want to sign up. If that happens, kiss the USA and our constitution goodbye.

    • las1

      This issue about Weinstein does concern the growth of government. The growth of government to micromanage every word and thought anyone says… starting in the military. Without upholding the First Amendment, we can kiss our freedoms goodbye. And this issue Weinstein is peddling is the eye of the storm for America.

      • ApplePie101

        Cut the size of government, and government has fewer resources to attack us on so many fronts. I picture it as a battle against a hydra: you don’t win by cutting off hundreds of heads–you win by driving a spear through its heart.

        In my opinion, the Tea party’s recent lawsuit against the IRS is more to the point. That’s strking at the hydra’s heart.

        • las1

          Gosh I wasn’t aware our intellectual resources were so scarce. Cutting the size of government is sure working out pretty good now isn’t it. Meanwhile while they are tackling that size of government thing… on every other front America is being attacked and cancer is setting in.

          I prefer this wise adage from Bill Whittle on how to deal with the left Keep cutting the grass… you may not like it, but you gotta keep doing it. Others might use the adage that there’s no reason you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time..

  • Darrell Griffin

    That guy is your typical liberal when they aren’t wearing the mask.

    What a jerk.

  • Sandra123456

    So who “owns” the word “God?” Christians, Jews, Muslims? The word “God” is not exclusively owned by any religion. So what’s to offend?. One is pledging with that oath to the God one believes in.

    Who are these people who come up with these PC controversies? God is a problem. Christmas is a problem. Indian names for sports teams are a problem. Are they looking for attention? Maybe that is what “Mikey” is doing.

    • las1

      comment moved elsewhere

      • Sandra123456

        True. Liberals are kids with adult bodies. Their bodies matured but their minds did not.

        • las1

          thx Sandra… I moved my comment up a bit.. You are bang on. They certainly have not matured.

  • Jim Land

    I think it was Zo that said that the first amendment isn’t keeping Religion out of Government, it is keeping Government out of Religion. That said, I’m glad that if you don’t believe in God you don’t have to say that line. Also agree with ApplePie. Don’t get distracted with things like this. No freedom is technically being taken away here unlike other political issues of the day.

    • las1

      Can’t agree Jim. Here’s what I responded to Apple Pie:

      This issue about Weinstein does concern the growth of government. The growth of government to micromanage every word and thought anyone says… starting in the military. Without upholding the First Amendment, we can kiss our freedoms goodbye. And this issueWeinstein is peddling is the eye of the storm for America.

      And it was Reagan who said : Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

      Do you not think that subversives like Weinstein are not fighting for their ruinous causes. We must fight them back and oppose them on every front… no matter how small and no matter if someone thinks it a distraction.

      Vigilance will save this Republic.

    • You might want to read this Jim, and the hyperlinks if you have a chance.

    • lawngren

      I don’t know if Zo was aware of this, but Ronald Reagan said the same thing many years ago:

      The part about the first Amendment starts at 49 seconds.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    Mikey is a dipstick in my opinion. Next he’ll want to shutter all the churches in the US because we worship God. If you don’t believe in God that’s your prerogative, but why force your narrow minded views on others? Mikey grow up and just go away!!! Aren’t you a tad old to be called “Mikey?”

    • M_J_S

      Let there be a civil war and let us solve these problems efficiently ONCE AND FOR ALL. Enough is enough.

      • sno_warrior

        you do not know what the hell you’re talking about! Do you realize the blood that would run down the streets of America if something like this were to happen? Have you ever thought what would happen if the ‘Spirit of God’ were to be taken away from this world and Satan was given full control of the thoughs and actions of the ‘unsaved’?

        It WILL HAPPEN and the ‘Spirit of Prophecy’ tells us that it will be quite soon. All the signs are pointing to ‘the time of trouble’ that will soon burst upon the whole world.

        WE are the generation that will be living upon the earth when God sends his Son to gather His children to Himself…. The Second Coming of Jesus is soon. My prayer is that all will study and pray for forgiveness and deliverance of their sins. They HAVE TO BE COVERED by the blood of the Lamb!

        • M_J_S

          While I agree with Second Coming, I also believe in liberty. We The People must stand up for our rights. No one else will.

          • sno_warrior

            I agree completely, we need to stand up for our rights with all our strength and speak out whenever we can!

            But keep your eye on the BIG PRIZE, eternal life with Christ. This world isn’t going to last brother and Jesus is using ‘this time of trouble’ to warn His people to become a little more serious in thier relationship with Him. Just saying….

          • lawngren

            “They have rights who dare maintain them.” James Russell Lowell, “The Present Crisis”.

        • lawngren

          I almost lost it reading your comment. Almost stood up and started shouting right here in public! Can’t wait! Amen! Come quickly, King Jesus!

          I have to say I understand M_J_S’s attitude though. I forget what warrior it was who said, “Any man who has any power of joy in battle knows what it is like when the wolf rises in the heart.”

          Enemies provoke that reaction. Especially vile and contemptible enemies such as America faces from within,

          Furthermore, just a little of my own opinion here, as Israel is the declared homeland of Jews, America is the declared homeland of Christians. If “Stand Your Ground” is right for Americans, it’s right for America too.

          For those who are left behind after the Rapture, there’s something else to contemplate: when the Rapture occurs, those who are left will know for certain that Christians were right: the God of the Bible is real. If they then choose to die without first becoming believers in Jesus, they have lost everything, forever. So to those who remain after the Rapture, I recommend you take care of that matter FIRST. Dying in a war against evil is not what gets you into Heaven.

          • sno_warrior

            I have no problem standing up for the rights of my Christian brothers and sisters. This country was founded on RELIGIOUS LIBERTY and when we lose those rights (and we will soon), we are in deep trouble.

            We’re in deep trouble now, but it’s only going to get worse. We have people governing us that are from the ‘den of Satan’… they do not believe in Christ, and they have no qualms about killing Christians, after all, some of the worlds population has to be elimminated to be able to sustain THEM after they have taken complete control of EVERYTHING man does. It’s all about POWER and CONTROL.

            I agree with M_J_S. There is a time for Christians to stand up and fight… (maybe not fight literaly as in to take up arms) but in the strength of Christ! we are to carry on with the ‘great commission’ of carrying the gospel to the world. Speak up, YES — back down, only at the risk of your salvation!

            As concerning the ‘secret rapture’ I am not convinced, and do not believe that is what Scripture teaches. There will be a rapture of those that are saved (both the righteous dead and the righteous living), but I do not believe that it will be ‘secret’.

            As I read through 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, I see that Christ will return “with a shout”, “with the trumpht of God”. [I don’t believe that Jesus will come SNEEKING IN and WHISPERING, I’m here to take you home. He came ONCE as a baby and the world did not know Him. When He comes the second time, EVERYONE WILL KNOW that it is the King of KIngs coming to get HIS people.]

            Matthew 24:31 says that “God will send His angels with a GREAT SOUND OF THE TRUMPET, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” [This tells me that the Second Coming of Christ will not be a secret.]

            “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.” (Mark 13:24-27) [Again, this doesn’t sound like it it going to be a secret event.]

            “I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was A GREAT EARTHQUAKE; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven FELL to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the SKY RECEDED AS A SCROLL when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was MOVED OUT OF ITS PLACE. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, HID THEMSELVES in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and HIDE US from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and WHO IS ABLE TO STAND?” (Revelation 6:12-17) [It sounds to me that at the Second Coming of Jesus, the whole will be paying attention. Nothing secret here.]

            I have a lot of information on this subject if you are interested in learning more about the ‘rapture vs secret rapture’. There is a major difference and if you are looking for the ‘secret rapture’ to take place, you are being mislead and deceived by your preacher. When Christ comes the second time (Second Coming), IT IS ALL OVER!

            Those who believe in the ‘secret rapture’ but have neglected to accept Jesus, thinking that they will have 7 more years to be saved, will BE LOST. There will be no additional 7 years after Christ comes for those on earth. They will all be dead, waiting for the ‘Great White Throne Judgment’ (Revelation 20:11-15)

            And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”

            “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

            Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. (Revelation 22:10-14)

            You may not agree with this position (probably don’t) but it is ‘BIBLICAL’. You cannot take everything your preacher says as ‘the gospel’. If it doesn’t line up with the Bible, we are to disregard it… “To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20)

            I hope you have a great day lawngren. 🙂

            • lawngren

              Thanks, sno warrior. I’ve never heard of a secret rapture. I do read the Bible, have read it through seven times word for word, and I agree, it’s not wise to accept everything that comes from any pulpit. I agree, the Bible is the final authority for believers.

              I appreciate your offer of information on the subject, but at my age (sixth decade plus) I’ve pretty much decided what I believe. We both have the only “pass/fail” answer right: salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone – and I’m satisfied to wait until I get to Heaven to straighten out any points I may be wrong on. I do appreciate your willingness to discuss it, though. Thank you.

              • sno_warrior

                Amen… have a wonderful day. 🙂

                P.S. Sorry, I guess I misunderstood the earlier post. 🙁
                and I didn’t mean to preach a sermon but I thought you were mislead. Again, my apologies.

                • lawngren

                  No apologies necessary. Preach any time, as far as I’m concerned. We all need to keep our spiritual ears open, me as much as anyone else. Look at it this way, if I had been misled, you were there to show me the right path.

                • sno_warrior

                  Thanks brother. And I would hope that you would do the same. 🙂 God bless!

    • clockwindingdown

      Not to mention that military service is voluntary, meaning if they find religions or the term GOD so offensive they need not apply…

  • Carol McIntyre

    I’m getting tired of having non-religion shoved down my throat.

    Liberals: somebody’s religion is going to win the cultural. It will either be that of Christianity or that of Humanism. One of them creates a free culture. One of them is oppressive. Guess which one you’re promoting by keeping me from my freedom to religious expression.

    • las1

      well said!

  • LIRight

    Some people just make me gag. And no, it ‘ain’t Megyn.

  • las1

    Can you imagine any more appropriate Orwellian sounding name for a God hating organization than the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. You just can’t make this stuff up. Also Gotta love how Weinstein lept out of the gate with an attack on FOX.

    The central issue with these leftist progressives is that they are all unhappy and angry that life isn’t conforming to their desires. They are stuck in a perpetual state of childhood. To compensate they have to force life to conform… and they do that by forcing everyone to follow what they dictate.

    What we are witnessing is a psychological problem played out on society through the extremist politics of damaged and emotionally undeveloped people. Mikey Weinstein is a perfect example of this. Obama is another example…a malignant psychopathic narcissist who has taken control of a country.

    Weinstein, by the way, uses his son as an excuse for his own childhood issues. Weinstein decided to form the MRFF after he claimed that his Air Force son complained about Christians trying to force their religion down his throat. Weinstein is quite the piece of work.

    • $2180674

      Military Religious Freedom Foundation is an oxymoron just as Affordable Care Act .

      Weinstein is just one of many morons pushing this crap.

    • Barbara Belcastro

      I saw that interview last night on The Kelly File. Mikey whatever his name is, he a jerk. Megyn handed that interveiw with class. When he told her that he had the floor, I was hoping he would fall through it. We took God out of our public schools and notice how well that worked out. Now this idiot wants to take God out of our military, I wish he would climb back under the hole he came from!

    • lawngren

      THere’s a very on-point book you should read titled “Faith of the Fatherless: the Psychology of Atheism” by Paul Vitz. What Vitz discovered, and documents, is that almost all the leading atheists either had no father or had a bitter relationship with their fathers.

  • sjmom

    It all comes down from the top. If Obama was a God fearing man Mikey wouldn’t have the opportunity to spout his irreligious views.

  • deTocqueville1

    There is no ‘religious test’ in the Constitution. That was a legal fiction conjured up by a progressive judiciary to deny the place of God in American history, culture and everyday life. It is time it was confronted and defeated.

  • timerunnersc

    Love the phrase: “respective of all perspective’s” oh its soooo feely touchy and catchy too!.

    There is no honor when there is no Honor, clearly the honor review-board has lost its honor.
    Works out pretty well for the pagan and the atheist who will be left running the AF.
    People can’t get rid of God but God can get rid of people in a heart beat so the big is question is when a missile is about to crisp a US Jet or a US Battleship or Military Post somewhere in the world, who yah gonna call? PC-Gen. Michelle Johnson, Frankweinstein, Obama, or God Almighty?

    Without God there is no honor for what does broken mankind know about honor without their God to honor?

  • GetWhatYouPayFor

    God is a big problem if we are to believe that all of our rights are granted by the State. Obama is your God and asking him to help any branch of our Military is a fools folly. It is like expecting him to salute a flag or honor our veterans. The Left is busy rewriting our history books and the Bible will soon be scorned, much the same as the Tea Party.

    • Laurel

      BULLS EYE!!!

    • sno_warrior

      SOON to be scorned??? It seems to me that it (the Bible) has been ‘scorned’ for hundreds of years.

      Even in the time of Jesus there were many (Scribes and Pharasies and kings and degenerates) who despised the WORD and nothing has changed. It’s kinda strange…’the demons’ knew who Christ was but His own people didn’t.

      • GetWhatYouPayFor

        Excellent point! Two thousand years and Jesus prevails. Obama has no clue. The God that humans are willing to die for wins every time. How many will lay their lives on the line for Barack Hussein Obama?

  • Press Watchusa

    This jerk MUST be related to Chris Matthews
    Is the next target the Oath in the Courts?

    • DarkKnight2016

      It is in the Supreme Court right now whether there can be prayer at the beginning of public meetings like at a City/Town Council meetings.

      Town of Greece v. Galloway

    • CalCoolidge

      Until the word is expunged. In Orewell’s1984, the propagandists felt that by eliminating a word from the vocabulary, they could eliminate the idea from consciousness.

      • Every once in a while, I get the creepy feeling that Orwell was from the future.

  • John Huffman

    Typical liberal on display there. Attack the constitution in a piecemeal fashion when it suits them, and declare that it is the same Constitution that gives them the power to do so. This entire movement is based on lunacy and pseudo made up offenses, and you hurt my little feelings arguments. You don’t want to say “so help me God” then don’t. Your choice. It’s been that way since the beginning of the nation’s founding. Get over yourself already.

  • Laurel

    If you give a moose a muffin he will want some jam to go with it.

    If you give an atheist an inch he will push his religion for miles and miles.

    • lawngren

      Hahahahaha … “Moose”? “Muffin”? Haven’t heard that one before. Are you a Mainer?

      • Laurel

        No it’s from one of my daughter’s favorite children’s book series. I collect children’s books because many of them are very clever. she loved to be read to as a child and that one was always top of the list. I always tried to buy books that were humorous and entertaining but has life lessons to them as well.

        I’m a Californian and conservative as well as a parent…so I don’t scare easily. 😉

        • lawngren

          Cool !

  • God is on our money but being kicked out of our military as He has been everywhere else in our country- and we wonder why our nation is collapsing. Take away the foundation, everything else will fall.

    Weinstein is an antichristian bigot. He’s worse than what he calls us.

    This is dear leader’s pick to be the so called Religious TOLERANCE Consultant. Like everything dear leader is doing to America, he’s doing worse to our Military.

    • Insert_Cool_Username

      There is a bitter sort of irony to the fact that modern America is most comfortable with keeping God imprinted on something He specifically warned us not to deify.

      But fear not. Christianity outlasted Nero, Diocletian, and ever other heathen who tried to defeat the saints of God. This Weinstein guy is impotent and laughable by comparison.

      • Galatiansch2vs20

        Maybe it’s meant as a reminder we ought to trust God rather than mammon and that God is the One Who provides the money.

        ‘Will you set your eyes on that which is not?
        For riches certainly make themselves wings;
        They fly away like an eagle toward heaven.’
        Proverbs 23:5 NKJV

        What I don’t like on money is the supposed all seeing eye, which is not rooted in God, but in false religion.

        • Insert_Cool_Username

          Maybe. But it is kind of dicey. I highly doubt very many people, Christians included, look at the motto and go, “Oh, right, this money only exists because of God!” Maybe I’m too cynical, but given that the faces of our Presidents (and Franklin and Hamilton) are more prominent than the motto I tend to think it’s more of an afterthought.

          I’m not sure about the eye; I’ve heard conflicting accounts. Some say it’s a reference to Thoth, the ancient Egyptian messenger god (the Greeks considered him roughly equivalent to Hermes, but it’s not exactly like that.) Others have told me it’s a reference to Exodus, with the all-seeing eye of God watching His people endure slavery in Egypt before freeing them (but the Bible says that the Israelites were forced to build storehouses, not the pyramids.)

          I don’t know. I kind of don’t care, really. What’s on my currency doesn’t effect my faith. Render unto Caesar and all that.

          • Galatiansch2vs20

            I’d heard that it was rooted in something not good. You are right about conflicting accounts. This site:

            claims the following (excerpts):

            ‘James G. Martin, a 33rd degree Mason … praised President Bush’s plans for a “New World Order.” Writing in Raleigh’s daily newspaper, The News and Observer (March 24, 1991), Martin states: “President George Bush . . . has revitalized an old but timely idea, the realization of a New World Order.”

            Martin noted… same visionary idea as depicted on our U.S. one-dollar bill, the all-seeing eye above the pyramid with the Latin inscription below of Novus Ordo Seclorum. This, Martin explained, is … “A New World Order of the Age,” a “New Secular (or worldly) Order” or simply a “New World Order.” Unfortunately, in his article Governor Martin failed to tell readers … the pyramid and its all-seeing eye was first printed on the U.S. dollar bill in the 1930’s at the insistence of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, a Mason, and his vice-president, Henry Wallace. Wallace, a fellow Mason as well as an ardent communist sympathizer, later ran for president as a socialist.

            Parade Magazine of July 2, 1989 quoted President Bush:”Tahe desire for freedom from tyranny inspired the world and still does. Look on the back of any dollar bill and you’ll see it. The Great Seal of the United States bears the motto, ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum,’ meaning a ‘New Order of the Ages'”
            President Bush spoke before the United Nations on October 1, 1990, where he confirmed his support of World Government by the year 2000 A.D.’

            ‘This left-hand side of the dollar bill also contains a pyramid with the all-seeing eye above it. … notice that the capstone (or cornerstone) has been removed and that the all-seeing eye has replaced it. Sharon Boyd, writing in the New Age Magazine, What Is, proclaims: “Ancient Freemasonry employed the triangle, usually in connection with the all-seeing eye. Throughout the entire system of Masonry, no symbol is more important in its significance, it is the Masonic symbol of the ‘Grand Architect of the Universe.’ The entire symbol of the Eye of Providence (the All-Seeing Eye) in the Radiant Triangle forms a cornerstone of the unfinished pyramid.”

            The Bible specifies that Jesus is the chief Cornerstone, but He was rejected. This is quite evident by looking at the picture, the cornerstone has been removed or rejected and has been replaced by the all-seeing eye, a symbol of Satan! Not only do these symbols actually represent the Masonic god,
            Lucifer, but there is also another meaning behind them.’

            Truthorfiction’s website has a different story:


      • I don’t fear. God is bigger than any of the Alinsky satan worshiping puppets that are in place.

  • colliemum

    Anybody else getting tired of the atheists’ phrase “don’t shove your faith down my throat” when it’s anything to do with Christianity – but nay a peep coming from them when islamists shove their ‘faith’ down our throats day in day out, from wearing full-body sacks in public to demanding special privileges in prisons?
    Perhaps someone could ask Mr Weinstein to intervene when muslim prayer rooms are installed at university colleges, female only swimming sessions are demanded in schools and universities, and halal meat is served in all government institutions?

    But wait – he won’t do that, because that is their culture, innit, so mustn’t be judged, wheres Christianity and anything pertaining to our Christian culture is ‘shoving it down my throat’ …

    Cowardly hypocrite.

    • Insert_Cool_Username

      Or the ultimate irony that, in fact, he is shoving his religion down our throats. I can’t help but wonder why it is that the unspecific, ultimately Deistic language of “…so help me God” or “In God we trust” inspires such rage. Even the French atheists enshrined the goddess of “Reason.” Mankind has been inventing gods ever since they rejected the real one, so why can’t they engage creativity and just insert whatever they want there mentally and stop being such a pain about it.

      It’s not like they say “In the Most Holy Trinity we trust” or “…so help me Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, One God now and forever. Amen.” In that case, even I’d admit that you have a clear case of religious endorsement and might have a legal cause to complain.

      Really though, it’s not about their legal woes. They’re evangelists. Unfortunately atheism isn’t a very comforting religion so they have to supplement poor outreach with legal enforcement.

      • stage9

        “I can’t help but wonder why it is that the unspecific, ultimately Deistic language of “…so help me God” or “In God we trust” inspires such rage.”

        It’s like I saying the other day, no one is afraid of Allah; he doesn’t exist. No one’s afraid of Buddha; he’s dead and buried, but mention the name of Jesus Christ and suddenly everyone is scurrying like cockroaches trying to decry the mere utterance of the name.

        That’s why the Bible says that it is the name that is above EVERY name, and that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:9-11)

        You can’t run from the DNA that courses through your created being. You can’t hide from the eyes of God, and you can’t escape His wrath. Whole armies have marched against the Gospel of Jesus Christ and tried to wipe it from the earth, but you can’t stop God. His Word still remains some 2,000 years later as a testament to His unyielding glory.

        He is God, and the implications of that scares the godless to death.

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      Both the atheist and the Muslim are ultimately serving the same god and both are enemies of God, so that is why the atheist does not attack Islam.

      ‘In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the
      unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the Gospel of the
      glory of Christ, who is the image of God.’ II Cor. 4:4 ESV

    • lawngren

      “Cowardly” is a big part of it. Try this with islam and there are riots and murders of completely innocent people. Humanists don’t have that much courage.

  • Sentinel

    Typical liberal and corrupted thinking. This is similar to the whole plague of embraced homosexuality in this nation. Scoop said it best originally… for them to get their way, we have to lose a freedom. This is another result of Godlessness in this nation. If these people were saved and knew and served a loving God, they would see clearly and the stench of evil would be cleansed away. But until then, this ignorance, selfishness, and evil will continue to mess with Americans and harm all whom it touches.

    • stage9

      The two are INTRICATELY related, you’re right.

  • CalCoolidge

    Without ‘so help me God’ doesn’t it cease to be a pledge?

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      It ceases to give any hope of anyone keeping their pledge, because without God’s help, man cannot keep from sinning.

    • SisterMary

      I suppose one could say, “So help me Big Bird,” but it does lose something, doesn’t it?

      • lawngren

        ROFL! Thank you, sister!

  • Insert_Cool_Username

    This is perhaps off topic, but does anyone else find it ironic that the ultimate creed of Humanism is that being human is nothing more than being a smarter animal?

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      And without God, there would be no Standard, there would be no reason not to lie, cheat, steal, and be dishonorable.

      • lawngren

        I think that’s why they want to erase God from the culture. They give their intentions away by trying to get rid of Him.

        • Galatiansch2vs20

          I think they also actually have a hatred for God.

          And they can’t erase the law God wrote on their hearts, however.

          ‘For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the
          work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. -Romans 2:14-16 NAS

      • giveususfree

        Bazinga! Right on.
        I guess he thinks the vast majority of civilized society will remain civil, law abiding, generous……, just because? This guys loathing of religion has clouded his common sense, or he’s just another flaming ignoramus, but I’m trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, IT’S WHAT US GOD FEARING FOLKS DO, Mikey.

  • Howzah123

    Separation of Church and State needs to apply to Atheists

    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander

  • Nukeman60

    “We value an inclusive environment that promotes dignity and respect for all,” Vidal told the newspaper.

    Did he forget the last part of his sentence – “But not for Christians”?

  • hxpro

    2 words I’ve come to hate and loath…”inclusive” and “diversity”.

    • InfoDump

      “Sensible” and “common sense” are not too far behind.

  • stage9

    If you don’t like our God in America then get the HECK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      Hell comes later for those who call themselves atheists.

  • lawngren

    God is considering dropping the phrase “United States Air Force” from His list of protected organizations.

  • Christians: this century’s Jews

    Buy ammo, my friends, and never give up your second amendment rights.

    Speaking of which, Glenn Beck was all over the story about the guy in DC who was raided at night, outer door and bathroom doors both beaten open with one of those battering ram things, family terrorized, all because of one or two spent shotgun shell casings.

    I used to have one or two in my pile of treasures (every boy has some pile of things they found or like to hang on to) as a kid. Now your parents can go to prison for it.

    Buy even MORE ammo. Prepare. You know why.

    • Dr. Strangelove

      Read that on The Blaze. It’s a lesson not just to this gentleman and his family, but to everyone in the DC area to toe the line or face the consequences. After all, when the SHTF they don’t want any guns there, do they? Besides in the paws of 0’s flying monkeys, that is.

  • kong1967

    That’s not forcing a belief system down people’s throats. Much ado about nothing.

  • jlbs

    This Weinstein is a dangerous man. His reasoning is very twisted. It must be twisted in order for it to make any sense to the liberals. After decades of this oath being used, now, all of a sudden, he wants to eliminate it. There is communism coming down the pike!

  • Mike H1776

    but they shove their Faith Down Christians throats every day with the lie of Evolution which has not been proven so it is a faith and should be dropped from the schools as it is not a proven theory either.

  • Mike H1776

    He is an Evil Evil man and I pray for his soul – but I’m with the lady that emailed him

  • InfoDump

    This just in: Air Force Academy drops “So help me God” from their oath of duty. The phrase is to be replaced with “So help me Allah”.

  • USPatriot

    1- Weinstein does spend US currency with “In God We Trust” with no problem right?
    2- The Air Force didn’t tell him to kiss their ass?
    3- God will deal with the Weinsteins in the end. WE must deal with his kind NOW.

  • JohnT

    I don’t believe in all the mystical stuff, but it’s clear that this guy pushing the suit is the intolerant one. I just don’t get what offends people by things like the Ten Commandments or using the word God. I just view it as a tradition.

  • clubgitmo

    This country is so far gone.

  • davienne

    and the war on religion rages on…

    • davienne

      correction ::::: the war on America rages on

  • spin43

    As Obama weakens the military, he strengthens his own domestic force. You can guess the end game.

  • Dr. Strangelove

    Tell ’em to just say it without meaning it, like 0. Sorry, Mikey, did congress make this a law in violation of the first amendment?

  • ryanomaniac

    In my world growing up an ass whoopin’ goes a long way. Paper bullies like this just need a good slap on the ear. Pop their ear drum. If you don’t want to listen and interrupt then let me help you with that.