By The Right Scoop


A great report by CBS News on how the Obama administration trying to force America into electric vehicles is just wasting taxpayer money:

David Sandalow, the representative from the Energy Department they interviewed above doesn’t exactly like oil and gas, which just further proves the push by the Obama administration for electric vehicles is ideological and not based on any practical reality:

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  • conservative58

    Karma? How appropriate!!!

  • http://thewriteamerica.com/ thewriteamerica

    The only green this kind of junk makes me think of is The Hulk, because I just want to SMASH!

  • Nukeman60

    It is low. It is sleek. It is sensuous. It is also broken.‘ – reporter

    “Well, 3 out of 4 ain’t bad. It’s my Karma.” – Obama

  • freenca

    And the electricity to power up these cars is free? And not generated by gas oil or hydro-electric? Electricity just comes from the wall.
    Yeah, right! Ha ha ha. :-D

    • http://thewriteamerica.com/ thewriteamerica

      of course – like money grows on trees!

    • Nukeman60

      Exactly. They always tell you how many miles/gal an electric car gets. Tell me how many feet/ kwh it gets. That’s what I want to know. Tell me what it costs to run.

      • freenca

        I read about availability in Europe of gas powered engines with mileage in the high 70+ mpg range that are not allowed to be shipped to or produced here in the states because the gasoline tax structure would be harmed, given as the reason, when the author tried to import one. Darn, can’t remember what publication I saw the article in, if I can find it again I’ll pass it on to you.

        • Livin_Large

          Yes, the structure of state and Federal gas taxes has always been in cents per gallon. As MPG increases in the fleet, there will be the same amount of maintenance required but less revenue. They’ll have to figure out another way to support the roads and bridges.

          • freenca

            Yeah, out here in CA we pay a lot in gasoline tax, and our roads are in bad shape even so.

    • tvlgds

      And since they’re shutting down a lot of coal plants, I don’t know where they expect to GET that electricity. I can just see massive blackouts every day when everybody comes home and plugs in those stupid little pieces of crap!

      • Nukeman60

        And then calling off work the next day because their car isn’t charged. Won’t that be great for the economy.

        • tvlgds

          The libs won’t be happy till we all go back to the Flintstone days instead of moving forward to the Jetsons!

          • Nukeman60

            I wonder how many feet/foot Fred got with his car? At least his didn’t have a battery that caught on fire. :)

            • freenca

              What about the toxic waste disposal of the dead or burned batteries? I can hear all the green NIMBYs already!

              • NYGino

                Another example of ‘unintended consequences’, the hallmark of this administration.

              • toongoon

                I have a feeling that pile will grow a lot bigger and faster than nuclear waste. What do you say Nukeman60?

                • Nukeman60

                  I haven’t checked what these new batteries are made of, but before I ran a nuclear power plant, back in my younger days I worked as a chemist in a secondary lead smelter. With older batteries, you could reclaim quite a bit of them (the acid, the plastic, and the lead). With these newer ones, however…

                • toongoon

                  So you are thinking that some parts could be salvaged, minimizing the volume of waste.

                  Which still begs another question; Yucca mountain would then be safe for storage?

                  The logic of these people is baffling.

                • Nukeman60

                  We could go for hours talking about what I think we should do with nuclear waste. The short version – shoot it into the sun (it’s a huge fusion reactor anyway).

                  Yes, secondary lead smelters take in old batteries, break them up, separate their component pieces, neutralize the acid, reclaim the plastic, and purify the lead back into whatever purity you desire. A pretty nifty operation.

                  Doesn’t take away from the idiocy of making poor quality, expensive batteries in the first place, though.

                • toongoon

                  LOL. I’ll bet you could.

                  I guess the truth is, even if a liberal gets that rare good idea, he will follow through with it with incompetence anyway.

                • Livin_Large

                  They currently use lithium ion batteries, not lead for full electric vehicles. They generally carry a 10 year warranty, charge quickly without “memory” and are completely recycled. They aren’t cheap, but as they come into production on a large scale, the price will fall.

                  There are actually several levels of electric vehicles. Volt-class and Leaf-class vehicles are only one type. Other varieties include full gas-electric hybrids like the Prius, which use regenerative breaking to charge the battery and use electric to bring the vehicle quickly up to speed from a dead stop.

                  Over the next few years, there will be many models of vehicles that are classified as “light-hybrids” which are designed to squeak out 10% – 20% better mileage at a cost of around $250-$350. They’ll be so common, no one will call them hybrids.

                  We will also see technologies such as “stop-start” which turns off the engine when the car is stopped and turns it back on instantly using a supercapacitor (a kind of battery). You won’t even know it’s happening and it’s designed to squeeze out another 15% – 20% additional mileage depending on where you drive.

                  Many cars use will use new engineering such as continuously variable transmissions and tire pressure sensors to improve mileage. All of these technologies are expensive and exotic at the start, and some of them will become commodities.

                • freenca

                  They are Different from the traditional types of batteries…..

                • Nukeman60

                  Yeah, that’s what I suspected. I haven’t looked into it. Sounds like an evening project for me, though.

                • freenca

                  Dear leader wants 1M units sold, by 2015!? When did the mandate for that pass? (or was it included in O’care too?)

                • toongoon

                  He don’ need no stinkin congress!

                • tvlgds

                  Nope. I’m waiting for the executive order proclaiming himself king.

                • toongoon

                  Why not? Napoleon did it.

                • NYGino

                  And wound up in exile. We’re waiting.

                • tvlgds

                  Scary thought, isn’t it?

                • toongoon

                  Sort of, but we’re not France.

                • tvlgds

                  YET! We will be if Obammy has his way!

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002694470470 WL Whitelight

                  We cant be that far away. Our courts try to use their laws.

                • toongoon

                  Just can’t stress enough how important this election is.

              • badbadlibs

                The kicker is, they’re too stupid to realize it was their idea in the first place!
                I don’t know whether to laugh or cry half the time….

                • Rshill7

                  O’ does both at the same time. Here’s how you write that ~Lie~. I know what you mean though.

                  If everyone were limited to an electric vehicle, we couldn’t hop in one a get the heck out of Dodge could we? We could make it maybe to the edge of Dodge but no further. Then “The Man” turns off the grid and we’re all stuck. Even if he doesn’t, we’re still all stuck for 12 hours or so. I don’t like that. It dramatically limits our mobility.

                  Maybe when we’re all commies no one will own their own car. They would all be collective buggies. You run out of electricity, pull into a trading station and trade that dude off for a fresh one, like the Pony Express used to do with horses. Then all you have to do is reload all your travel stuff every 40 minutes :-(

                  I’d like to see some hydrogen vehicles. Wouldn’t it be cool if we could put water in our tanks, burn the hydrogen and release the oxygen? Then after all the trees die off from lack of CO2 because Al Gore and Co. are such foolish dupes who want us to follow in their carbon footsteps as likeminded dupes, we can still get oxygen from our cars :-)

                  Or…Al, O’ and the rabid green ho can just shut it, drill, refine and enjoy. Varooom!

                • Nukeman60

                  Even if he doesn’t, we’re still all stuck for 12 hours or so‘ – Rs

                  You make a good point here. Seems they want to put us on a curfew (allowed out only for 12 hours/day) or else they want us all to buy two vehicles each, one charging while one is running (no more than 100 miles, though).

                  I’d like to see some hydrogen vehicles.‘ – Rs

                  This reminds me of the plastic bag circle-jerk. After a while, they would say the hydrogen car was bad, force us on banana peel cars, find that to be bad, then come up with the idea to use fossil fuels. Bingo.

        • NYGino

          Well, if you happen to work for the E.P.A., they will understand.

      • Livin_Large

        The free market is killing coal and it is being replaced by natural gas. There’s a glut of extremely cheap natural gas and the conversion is east. It’s also much much cleaner than coal.

        • tvlgds

          Yep, and a large part of it is coming from just south of San Antonio!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

      I never though about that !

      Crap – I guess that’s what the monthly bill is for

      • freenca

        Good one Joe! LOL. ;-)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

          No Joke – I really did!

          • freenca

            Glad to make you think. ;-)

            • K-Bob

              Is that like “made ya look” ?

    • jimmie smith

      And 60% of our energy comes from coal fired power plants, but not for long….

      • freenca

        Yeah, that’s why we must privatize, not nationalize.

        • jimmie smith

          wow!!…that thought “never occurred to me”…fascism?

    • patriotbens

      Not to mention coal….these people are brain dead!!!

  • toongoon

    Just throw 4.7 billion more at an industry that is incapable of meeting demands in any reasonable manner, hell, it’s only taxpayer money.

  • LIBERTYUSA

    … AMERICA your COMMANDER IN CHIEF is a JOKE , a big F & N JOKE !”

  • http://twitter.com/nickmarschel straw man

    Most of our electricity comes from coal, so these electric cars can rightly be called ‘coal powered’ cars.

    • badbadlibs

      You mean, use to come from coal….once the bo administration is done killing that industry as well.

      • Nukeman60

        Yep, I can see it now. Come home from an 8 hour day at work, plug your car into the outlet, kiss your wife, and then go behind the garage and pedal that bicycle hooked up to a generator for 8 more hours to charge your car. Take a quick snack and nap and then it’s back to work for you. Sounds like a lovely future.

        • toongoon

          Hey, now I see why democrats won’t close the border, all that cheap labor to charge your car for you.

        • Rshill7

          Mandatory, productive, exercise. Oh boy. Daddy can go 40 miles every 12 hours. How futuristic is that? I want my Jetsons car! I believed those cartoons damnit! If I can’t zip, hover, and zag like a saucer, as if gravity doesn’t exist, I want to spin my tires (gently on loose gravel of course) and go 900 miles without stopping, feeding tube and waste collection conveniently configured.

          Dear Government:

          Please let Adam Smith’s ‘invisible hand(s)’ out of his pockets…and shackles. Back off!

          Sincerely,

          Happiness Pursuer

  • NYGino

    ‘ I’ve been getting about 70/80 mpg. Someone I know has been getting about 120/130 mpg, he’s going to give me some driving lessons” Sir, if I may, please don’t just stop your meds all at once, there will be (as shown) dire consequences.

    • freenca

      LOL ! Was it the beans again? Just need to invent an engine that runs on soy sauce, no waste at all and can eat the exhaust. ;-)

      • NYGino

        Soy is too salty and Mayor Bloomberg and Moochelle would not approve. Please be careful with these flagrantly freedom-like ideas. Big brother is watching.

        • freenca

          Oops, wasn’t thinkin, this week’s baddie was sugary liquids so thought we could do soy, but, alas, you bring back reality. :-(

          • NYGino

            Have it on good source that next week’s baddie will be toilet paper manufacturing and it’s profits. Everyone should get into a cya mode.

            • Nukeman60

              Yeah, cya with toilet paper. I like it.

              Reminds me of a time at work when they were trying come up with good safety slogans. I submitted ‘cya’ as a joke and told them it stood for ‘concentrate your awareness’.

              The idiots in management liked it and for several years, it was prominently displayed, much to the amusement of the employees. :)

              • NYGino

                The only thing that would get me laughing more than I am now, is if I knew the c,y and a were capitalized.

                • Nukeman60

                  Hah, they were! Also, they were on posters as CYA and then below each letter, downward was the rest of the words. It was hilarious. I got a lot of beers bought for me from the rank and file.

                • NYGino

                  Oh No!…..my sides are killing me!

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

              LOL!

              I read your comment before I went to Walmart

              I just bought 6 cases ot TP before they outlaw that too!

              • badbadlibs

                I’ve been saying for a long time, the libs won’t be happy until they tell us what with, where and how we can wipe our own behinds…..

            • freenca

              Got a big leafed decidious tree, non allergenic leaves? Maybe a fig would work for the CYA program you describe.

              • NYGino

                “Only the strong survive”

                • freenca

                  Darwin awards, film at 11!

              • badbadlibs

                We actually have a fig tree in our yard..hmmm, a get rich quick scheme is hatching ;)

  • badbadlibs

    Wonder why bo doesn’t want Brazil to have electric cars? What a stinker….he wants them to use oil and our money to get it…why I oughtta…..
    Don’t worry, I will….I will vote for Romney!

  • badbadlibs

    Sandalow is insane. It’s not an “addiction” to oil, it’s one of the greatest discoveries known and helped fuel (pardon the pun) the industrial revolution. But, then I sometimes forget progressives are actually regressives….they won’t be happy until we’re back to rubbing two sticks together…oh, never mind, that would harm a tree….egads!

  • keninil

    Maybe he wants to bring back the livery stable to replace the gas station. That’s what every town had around 1900. A place to board your horses. (Notice in cowboy movies they didn’t get to leave their horses overnight just anywhere. ) Some folks I know hop a bike when they want to go to the next town, I guess he his not for that sort of transport.

    I’m still waiting for zoning to allow a 100+ foot windmill on my postage stamp lot (<.2 acre) to provide power/heating for my home and car in IL. Maybe they first need to pass the waiver on bird killing. Oh yeah, I'm also expecting IL or US to subsidize the $40K expense too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000829771072 John Q. Jones

    The “People” speak… I wonder just which people are speaking? Oh, I know.. everyone “but” the American citizens with a shred of common sense… considering that video is from a United Nations Foundation (funded by the US, I’m sure). BAHAHAHA…. This makes me want to wretch…

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    According to the top video segment, Chevy actually sold 62,000 Volts? I really find that hard to believe. I think Chevy has stopped production of the Volt because of poor sales and I doubt they’re going to start it again, especially given this terrible economy. Also, GM doesn’t tell people all of the new wiring you need to install in your house to accomodate the Chevy Volt and it still has not fully fixed those pesky batter fires in case the Volt is hit by another car. Finally, even electricity isn’t cheap these days, especially where I live in the summertime (with all the air conditioners going). Given the high cost of the Volt and the high electrical bills for using it, you’re probably better off just buying a smaller Toyota or Honda with good gas mileage and not have to bother with all the new wiring. And, if you live in an apartment building and want a Chevy Volt, I think you’re out of luck, too. Unless you have a really long extension cord.

    • badbadlibs

      Living large and his/her liberal friends are going to be mighty upset to learn all of that info.
      And yes, Chevy stopped production, laying off 1300 workers. It was suppose to be only for 5 weeks, but haven’t heard if they have began again.
      I’ll have to ask my husband, he works for a chevy dealership.

  • toongoon

    I like the way these liberals think; If we fail to meet our goal in 2015, we’ll just aim for 2016, but we’ll never admit to making a mistake.

    • NYGino

      They used to try and hide this fact, now they do it out in the open. It absolutely blows my mind that there are people that still don’t see

    • K-Bob

      They are like that guy in the joke who says, “Sure, we’ll lose a dollar on every one we sell, but we’ll make it up on volume.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    A factoid >>>>>>>>>>>>

    EVERY “VOLT” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Congratulations Taxpayers, Chevy Volt is the Most Government-Supported Car at Up To $250k in Subsidies Per Vehicle Sold

    http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/21/congratulations-taxpayers-chevy-volt-is

    So to repeat – The REAL cost of a “VOLT” is $250,000


    • http://twitter.com/Jcdavidson37 John C. Davidson

      You can’t get any more hypocrital than to bash private investment while trying to ignore bad investment this administration have done. This election should be a cakewalk if didn’t have so many people on the take. Especially those Obama has working for him like that clown in the second video.

    • brian.carter%texian.org

      What is the problem with that? This is just part of the plan to redistribute wealth from taxpaying evil rascally wepublicans to pot-smoking hippies who think they are being eco-friendly by buying a Chevy Volt.

      They agree to pay $20K and get a car that cost over $250K to build.

  • sybilll

    This is why they try to silence Ms. Atkisson. She is a top-notch journalist who actually does hard-hitting reports. You know, like they used to do before 2008.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IDAKYMXLZIRLMLGEZJXV3AOO7E Vorlath

    The irony is that if you really want to be environmentally friendly, you’d buy a vehicle that burns fossil fuels. If you buy an electric car, you’re just diverting the CO2 production to the power plant which is NOT suited to running cars. So it takes MUCH more energy from the power plant (because of losses during each transfer, from the plant, distribution, storage in the battery, and finally to the motors) than it does if you used an engine specifically designed to power a vehicle with fossil fuels.

    • badbadlibs

      Oh they you go talking common sense…..

      Vorlath for Energy Secretary!!

  • ClaraCWhitsett
    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

      Above comment is spam by ClaraCWhitset-

      —————————–Please flag

      • http://twitter.com/Jcdavidson37 John C. Davidson

        Every conservative web-site has been assigned one, Joe. Names change, but intent is the same.

      • K-Bob

        Thanks, Joe! I saw that on another thread and kilt it there, too.

  • stage9

    Put a Ferrari v12 in it and you’ve got yourself a deal.

  • http://twitter.com/Jcdavidson37 John C. Davidson

    The biggest problem I have with our government is that all the real energy efficient gas powered vehicles produced in Europe can’t operate here in America because of all the safety regulations imposed. 25% of the power generated goes to facilitate those requirements.

    I bought my last new sports car and found they no longer provided ashtrays & a cigarette lighter.

    It makes me wonder why our politicians claim they are against bullying when they subscribe to that principle when dealing with our automakers and us, the citizens.

  • aZjimbo

    How’s the sales of that chevy (crap) Volt doing for you barry?

    • http://twitter.com/Jcdavidson37 John C. Davidson

      You must be joking, that joker won’t respond.

    • Nukeman60

      I heard the Chevy Volt is helping the economy. Firefighting equipment sales are up due to them and tow truck businesses are doing great because of them.

      • aZjimbo

        Good one. Just another liberal boondoggle.

  • rickr442

    What Obama and the pinheads (Not a doowop group) don’tr grasp is that any workable product needs development time to properly progress from drawing board to driveway.

    Why do the President and his groupies avoid the point that the plug-in hybrids STILL get their principal power from coal fired power plants and fossil fuels?

    Obama needs to go, just as Carter did. But quicker, please. Neither of our theoretician Presidents has been worth crap.

  • MaxineCA

    A few folks here referenced this, but for those that haven’t been it, here’s the clip.

    http://video.staged.com/localshops/vw_passat_785_mpg_in_the_uk

    • 12grace

      Thank you for the link, m.

    • freenca

      Thanks, I didn’t find it again till this morning.

  • http://twitter.com/wavjazzdotnet AC Tones

    Not sure how Sharyl Attkisson continues to be employed by CBS. About the only objective reporter there. She broke the Fast and Furious story, which has Holder doing the Ali “rope a dope.” Just a hunch, but I think she may have the goods someone high in the CBS News organization and they are afraid she’ll blow the whistle on them if they fire her.

  • brian.carter%texian.org

    Why are we subsidizing $100K luxury sports cars for the super wealthy?

    I am probably upper middle class. I am still paying on a 2010 Dodge Challenger that cost about $45K. That is a massive portion of my income and a huge obligation, but I wanted it, could afford to finance it, and believed I earned it.

    I would love to own a Dodge Viper, and a ’67 fastback Mustang…I can’t afford the former and can’t justify the later and still have the Challenger. I had to make a choice.

    So, how is it “fair” to steal part of my earned income at gun point so somebody else can use that money to sell a $150K luxury sports car for $100K to people who earn many times what I earn?

    Even if you favor redistribution of wealth, why are they taking $50K from me to give it to Leonardo DiCaprio or George ‘Clueless’ Clooney so they can add a broken electric car to their fleets?

    • badbadlibs

      You have asked the question that makes the heads of all liberals make Linda Blair’s in the exorist seem normal.
      They have some mumbo-jumbo, marxist claptrap diatribe they can go into…none of which earthlings can dicipher.

  • 12grace

    But it yourself, obama!

    • kong1967

      He won’t buy anything that requires him to spend his own money. He’d rather spend ours.

  • kong1967

    Ok, Obama, think things through before you act. You are also at war with the coal industry. How do you propose you’re going to get all that electricity when you are done destroying the businesses that provide 50% of our current electricity needs? We need more electricity, not LESS you freaking stupid muslim-brain moron!!!

    I’d swear liberal idiots can’t see past the ends of their noses.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Washington should push their plentiful hot air as a power source. It’s free… why not?

  • DebbyX

    Karma is a b**ch!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Ste-Richards/1001751326 Dave Ste Richards

    haha :)
    that’s really… amazing!

    Instead, look at these electrical airport vehicles!