Allen West on women in combat: Why aren’t women in the NHL and why do we have a WNBA?

Allen West believes that the decision to put women on the ‘front lines’ in combat units is being made from the wrong direction. He believes it should be researched from the bottom up, starting with the combat units, instead of having it decreed from the top which will likely squelch any dissenters. But even more than that, he says our focus should be on sequestration and the declining Middle East instead of on a ‘foray’ into an ‘inequality trip’.

But, he says, if it’s true that women can operate in combat just like the men, then why aren’t women playing in the NHL with the men? Why is there a separate WNBA? He adds that maybe the women should be playing against Kobe Bryant.

Watch the full interview below:

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  • Sober_Thinking

    To continue my “rant” from a previous post…

    Why are we suddenly dealing with this (even though it is ridiculous and unwarranted) when we were focused on Hillary just a few days ago and what she knew about the tragedy in Benghazi? Why are we talking about this and not the latest unemployment numbers or the economy? Why did that clown Panetta decree this right now… then leave? These are rhetorical questions of course… it’s the Alinsky way… perfected in the think tanks of Obama’s regime. Just another distraction… meanwhile: the economy plummets, McConnell cuts a deal with Harry Reid on gutting the fillibuster, Obama presses for a treaty with NATO on controlling conventional weapons (and most likely, our guns – in violation of the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution), technologically advanced arms shipments are being sent to Egypt (our current enemy), and why is no one – anywhere – talking about the large explosion at a major Iranian nuclear plant?

    I’m 100% against women being pushed into combat duty like this… it’s obscene and unproductive. But interesting how it’s one of the major topics of the news… along with Subway sandwiches not being a full 12″ long… sheesh… with this corrupt damn media, the average low-information voter will continually be misinformed and kept in ignorance and slavery.

    I guess it’s all part of the plan, eh?

    • c4pfan

      LOL Well put!

    • WI4Walker

      It is the plan. Distract so other things aren’t delved into. And we follow right along. West should make his point, but then immediately turn it into, but this isn’t the most important thing right now, it is the economy and jobs and unemployment and high food stamps and the lies from Benghazi that we should be discussing. Every single person that goes on TV needs to learn to control the narrative and turn it into what the real issues are.

      BTW – are woman also now required to register with Selective Service at 18 as their male counterparts are? The should be. How long before we start hearing of lowering the standards testing for combat duty to accommodate females?

      • Sober_Thinking

        Excellent points! Keep the focus on one or two pressing issues and never let it go.

        Regarding your second point… good question. I actually heard last night or sometime yesterday about the lowering of standards… interesting that it’s happening so fast. It’s kind of crazy… how do we keep the best, most well-trained military when they lighten up the training? Lunacy.

    • Nukeman60

      ‘…along with Subway sandwiches not being a full 12″ long… sheesh… ‘ – Sober

      Ahhh, so that is why the countergirl asked me if I meant ‘a footlong’ when I asked for a 12″ sandwich yesterday. I wondered about that. I simply thought she just didn’t know the conversion of feet to inches. It all makes sense now.

      Liberalism and Alinsky have entered my fast food restaurant. God help us all. We’re doomed.

      • Wait until they bring out the new foot long… The “Soylent Green” 🙂

        • Nukeman60

          Brought to you by the folks from Planned Parenthood, who not only take out the little ones before they can be productive members of society, but now will be able to take out the ones who are no longer productive members any more. We could call it “Sub-standard- way”.

          “Would you like flies with that?”

          (sorry, too graphic even for me) 🙁

      • Sober_Thinking

        Lol! Wait for the next time you’re asked, “Would you like fries with that?” Whoa… that’s the worst!!! 😉

        Alinsky in our fast food means either smaller portions (they’ll lie to us and tell us “less is more”) or we’ll be convinced that we owe them for making the food, resulting in us paying for it but not getting the food. Grease… becomes them.

  • skyemantaray

    Good to see Allen West isn’t going anywhere. Lefties think if they crush conservatives in an election (usually dishonestly) they’ll just go away and sulk in their closet. And maybe some do, but I like the fighters like Allen West and Sarah Palin. They’re defeated for a moment and then they get up, dust themselves off, and keep going….. and it drives the left crazy. Notice how they flip anytime Sarah opens her mouth? They want her to stay in her kitchen and never come out. I’m sure it irks them every time Allen West is on tv, he still has relevance and Patrick Murphy will always be insignificant.

  • Don

    Once again Allen West demonstrates consevative common sense supercedes the liberal progressive lunacy of the left. Its amazing that superior leaders like Allen West are so rare and liberal loons seems to dominate every aspect of the mainstream media where their lies and deceptions seem to influence the lives of so many of the uninformed public.

      natural progression…..

  • Rshill7

    They should let women fight once a month.

    • Oh dear bear… You better start running now! 😉

      • Rshill7

        “You have reached a number that is no longer in service…please check the number and try again.”


        • Ah-Ha! Going off the Grid, eh? Heading for your hideout in Northern Idaho again? 🙂

          • Rshill7

            Yes, as soon as I escape the potato famine here in Michigan 🙂

            • If the next part of that phone message is “press 1 for English” I’m going to track you down and erm… do nothing… One wolf against a bear isn’t fair… You can see I’ve thought this post through just as well as most I make. 🙂

              • crosshr


    • Conservative_Hippie

      I have to hand it to ya Rshill, you don’t mince words, lol!

    • Withhold our chocolate as well first for a couple of months and you may be onto something myBear.

      • Rshill7

        That would violate the Geneva Convention I think. Wouldn’t want to attend that convention either, unless Mr. Hershey, Goodbar, Nestles, and a Three Musketeer or two had my back…and my front.

  • russva

    Allen West is right. I served as a Marine Corps grunt in Vietnam and I know. John McCain has never served in ground combat he’s simply being politically correct.

    There are many roles for women, but frontline infantry is no place for a woman. I could give a hundred reasons why, but why bother. Isn’t it funny that most of the people supporting this have never, nor will their daughters ever, serve in the military. Excepting, of course, this Canadian general and I wonder how long he’s actually served on the frontlines. In Vietnam, it wasn’t unusual to be in the field for months and your home was a 2’x2’x4′ hole in the ground, and your bathroom was an entrenching tool.

    • Thank you for your service russva. God bless. thank you.

      • nosilasunny

        I second that thank you!

        • russva

          Thank You!

          • nosilasunny

            You’re welcome! I know you didn’t always hear the thanks from those who should have given it to you, but I will always be appreciative for your service and sacrifices for our country and families.

      • russva

        Thank you! This response is heart warming to say the least.

        • You are more than welcome! We love and respect our Veterans here- welcome home, and welcome to The Right Scoop! 🙂

    • tinlizzieowner

      “Welcome Home Brother”.

      • russva

        Thanks! 2nd Bn. 4th Marines, Fox Co., 3rd Marine Div. Dong Ha, Quang Tri, Con Thien, and most points north of the Qua Viet River.

        • tinlizzieowner

          315th Air Div. ‘Combat Cargo’ USAF (C-130).
          Tan Son Nhut Air Base (and a whole bunch of ‘hot LZ’s).
          Beans and bullets in one direction, body bags in the other.
          I know where Dong Ha, Quang Tri, Con Thien are. 🙂
          My guys are the ones that resupplied Ke Sanh in 68 and evacuated Kam Duc.
          The ‘down and dirty’ Air Force, attached to the Army.

  • texabama

    I found it interesting that Anderson Cooper never thought to ask the Canadian representative just how many women were able to meet the standard of carrying 100 lbs. of equipment and then actually fighting. I’ll bet it’s less than 1 per cent. And since when does a soldier concern himself more with whether or not he can talk to women than whether or not he can kill the enemy?

    • las1

      I like West’s comeback that women soldiers won’t be allowed to talk to men in the Middle East. It’s the direct opposite of Hillier’s assertion about Men not being able to talk to women in the ME.

      Of course… it flew right over Coopers head. I don’t want to slag Cooper too much however… he fulfills the rule of a broken clock being right twice a day. So occasionally he gets it. Oh did I say occasionally? Compare that to Anderson’s other MSM colleagues…clocks which are not only broken, but have no hands at all.

      • Rshill7

        Yet can still make that cuckoo sound with fervor and definiteness of purpose.


  • skyemantaray

    I look at all the things I do that my great grandmother never could: vote, go to college, work alongside men welding and construction and concrete work….. but what lefties and feminists refuse to acknowledge is that men and women are not, and will never be, the same. There are certain things in life that should always be segregated and front line infantry is one of them. Women have no business being there and it will certainly weaken our fighting force.

    • Patriot077

      Same here. And the one thing that I have not heard mentioned by anyone – yet – is that there are women in the military now who create tensions and jealousies among the men simply because some women enjoy that “game”. Of course the men get blamed because they “can’t control themselves”.

      I’ve read reports from unit commanders who say the bulk of their day is spent dealing with all manner of personnel issues arising from the biological differences in the sexes whether emotional or physiological. Frontline battlegrounds are no place for a soap opera. I know that sounds sexist but as a woman of advancing years, I have observed many women who get a real thrill out of their cat & mouse game with the opposite sex. The men themselves are meaningless to them. I would hate for my son’s life to depend on someone like that in a life and death situation.

  • Let women and men compete equally in the Olympics and in all sports for a season and see how well that works out… Then get back to me about women serving in the front lines.

    • texabama

      Actually I’m with Allen West, just let them try hockey first!

      • Actually Tampa did have a female goalie for a while. And she was pretty good 😉

        • tinlizzieowner

          Put her on the line for the Green Bay Packers and let’s see how long she lasts. 😉
          That’s a little better analogy for ‘women in combat’.

    • las1

      Agreed…Equal yes! The same NO!

      A car is an equally valid means of transportation in comparison to a plane. Can a car fly? No! But if you’re a Hollywood liberal maybe they can.

  • Groty1

    Menstrual cycles don’t stop for war.

    • Landscaper

      That’s when the squad leader puts them [her] on point. She will be ready to kick the crap out of anyone that moves!!!!!!!

      • crosshr

        lol, I still feel that pain in my donkey from the previous round (w/ due respect for the opposite sex (which I can’t live with and can’t live with out ! lol again !)

        I’m thinking , it’s never the quality and variety of jobs and performances that a female can handle.My girl can out do me a thousand times in things I have no discipline or patience or skill or right mentality or what have you. Yet she would always silently signal me in a manner that’s to never yet forget to pamper her with all the fun cute staff like flower, chocolate, dinner date and so forth the way most of you go through. For me , those are waste of times and money, but it’s got to get done ! We are both human and compatible in most situations, but our NATURE are completely opposite.

        I love where West is standing, his povs. are not only from a soldiers povs.but from a head of a household and protector of a family rooted deeply in spiritual values from that inspired from the Good Book. People like West are Pillars a Country can Build upon.

    • poljunkie

      They can. There’s pills for that.

  • c4pfan


  • TimeForAnarchy

    When the Religion of Peace drags a dead woman’s body throught the streets of Mogadishu and its on national TV, we’ll see this policy change post haste.

  • 911Infidel

    “measured their standards in a different way”? Sounds like PC talk for lowering of the physical standards to me. That is EXACTLY what is going to happen in our military. This PC social experimentation crap doesn’t impress any of enemies. It emboldens them. What we need are strong bodies. Men who can run, jump and carry heavy loads to include the weight of a wounded comrade.

    Don’t give me this crap that woman are physically equal to men. If they were they’d trade their cheerleader uniforms in for a helmet and pads in football.

    I know men who couldn’t helf a 100lb 155 round or pass Ranger school, or buds for that matter. The combat arms is a whole ‘nuther world from flying planes and helicopters.

    This country best be getting its head of its a$$…and soon.

    • crosshr

      could one of those men is also our current potus, seems like !

  • Jaels_Song

    How many Canadian women will be fighting in our war? Is this about American women in combat, or Canadian women in combat? What influence does Canadian policy have to do with us?

  • deTocqueville1

    Allen always goes right to the heart of issues. His point on the athletic leagues is ecellent. Heck, why are the Olympic events not coed?

  • EchoMike

    I usually agree with West, and I see where he’s coming from.
    In my opinion as long as the physical requirements are not degraded for women.
    If a woman can mainatin the same standards that the men do, then I don’t have as much of a problem.
    Now my concern is that this isn’t done for the sake of the VERY few women who would sign up for these combat positions, and the even fewere who would actually make it through. Instead it’s a trojan horse that will eventually allow a lawsuit based on the “inequality” of the number of females there by forcing the military to reduce standards to make sure that females were more “equally represented” in these units.
    Just like I don’t care about gays in the military that much, but again, I’m worried about the first time a tranny sues the military because she/he can’t decide if they shuld wear the skirt or the pants.
    If people feel it is their duty to serve this country with honor and valor, they should. But we should not turn our military services into social experiments.

    • they already don’t have to pass the same PT standards as men in the same age group.

    • NHConservative0221

      Very well said.

  • CitizenVetUSA

    The test of this social experiment will be in a future failed combat event and it’s televised theatrical hearing on capital hill blurring the event to political confusion.

  • poljunkie

    I know there are some bad a$$ women out there, and I respect and I admire them….Im sure there are some that could handle combat without batting an eye…..But as a gal…. I am really not in favor of women on the very front lines.

    I consider myself a strong independent female, with lots of outdoor and other rugged and craggy experiences I personally don’t think it is a great idea.

    My husband was in combat, and as a soldier he doesn’t think it is a sound thought. They may say chivalry is dead, well he begs to differ. On the front positions when your natural inclination is to make sure you don’t leave anyone behind, he feels it will be even more intensified if there is a female involved.

    Simply put, the penchant to protect will kick in.

  • Haywoodjbl

    Put Hillary on the front lines.

    • TimeForAnarchy

      We don’t want to scare the Moooozlems……..we want to destroy them.

  • barney59

    Put little Anderson Fancy-Pants on the front line, see how that goes.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    As I’ve posted in another forum, I’m leaning against women in combat, but I must say I am inspired by an American woman that wants to fight for her Country.

    Also, if there were ever a foreign invasion on American soil (i.e. Red Dawn), every man, woman and child would be given a gun and expected to Fight! As long as we still have guns in our homes, no thanks to the Libs!

    • Well said. I agree with you!

      • Conservative_Hippie

        Thanks Wolfie!

    • tinlizzieowner

      If we didn’t have women ‘fighting for their country’ in the factories during WW2, we would have lost it. If we didn’t have the Women’s Airforce Service Pilots (WASP) delivering every known kind of military aircraft all over the world, there would have been that many fewer male pilots fighting in them.

      • There are many way to fight for your country. Front line infantry is not the only option… Not even for most men.

        • tinlizzieowner

          Bingo. I never fired a shot in Viet Nam but if we didn’t fly in the ‘beans and bullets’ and take out the body bags 🙁 nobody was fighting or eating.

  • Nukeman60

    This isn’t the worst of it. Just wait till they ban guns from the military. That will be the end all. Our fighting forces will be run by NASA and sent out to ‘diplomatically approach’ our enemies and ‘try to understand’ them in a more humane and politically correct fashion.

    • My husband retired just shy of 30 years….grateful he is to be out before they are issued one bullet with 10 pages of paperwork required to acquire that one.

      • Nukeman60

        He has my undying thanks for his service to our country. There is no greater gift that one can give and I’m grateful to him.


    I can not believe they can not think past the pencil and look at the past. We already have seen videos of our male troops beaten and abused. You think they are going to treat females any better? Its going to be worse. I am not going to hold back here…I am going to paint a horrible picture. One that is going to happen. I am sure our goverment is going to cover it up so we don’t think its happening but just wait and see. Its going to happen that females will become POW’s. They are not only going to be beaten and abused like thier male counterparts but they are going to be raped….repeatedly…by multiple enemy soldiers. Some may even become pregnant. Then what? You think they are going to let them live? Just like beheading is posted on the internet the horrible rapes will be posted also by the enemy. What a horrible thing for a husband or mother and father to see. Rage and hate will take over our country and our soldiers. War is not kind…its not a game…its not XBOX 360 that when your done you turn it off and go to bed.

  • lrjrj

    military is no place for social policy- gays, women, whatever. They have a singular purpose and the social dynamics will prove to be distractions that are folly and silly.
    Does anyone believe that women aren’t a distraction to young men, away from home, away from their wives? This is not progress, it is denying reality.

  • there is a simple fix.
    either fully equal or not.
    if women are in the military in ANY role they should have the same standards.
    men get kicked out for not meeting PT standards, make them equal.
    if you need reduced standards to allow them to serve then they do you no good.
    if soldier can do 42 pushups in 2 minutes, good.
    if not boot them out.
    no multiple standards sets depending on sex.

  • Exactly how good are Canadian commandos? It’s my impression that to a large extent Canada relies on us, as do many, many countries. Changing their policies to fit their political narrative may not have had that much effect on their readiness. It will devastate ours. Which, I guess is actually the goal here.

  • nibblesyble

    Ugh..I cringed when the Canadian said that women exceeded physical standards but then seconds later said they ‘did not do well with push ups’ so they altered the standards. Talking out of both sides of the mouth!

  • stage9

    The fact that this is even a discussion is incredible. If liberals are really this stupid why in God’s name are they governing my country?

    • Myptofvu

      Because they think the term stupid means enlightened.

      • Suzyqpie

        And Republican flip-flop while Democrats evolve.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “Why aren’t women playing in the NHL with the men? Why is there a separate WNBA?”

    Why is there a NAACP? Why is their a Congressional Black Caucus? Why is their a Black Educational Television? Why is there a Miss Black America? Why is their a National Organization for Women? Why isn’t the Women’s Liberation Movement called the Person’s Liberation Movement?
    If the libs want everything to be ‘so equal’, in the military, isn’t it about time to ‘equalize’ America first? 😉

  • Myptofvu

    I am worried about how it may compromise a unit or a mission. Will men react the same way if a woman is in jeopardy as they would if it were a man or will they be more protective?

    Let’s say a woman is about to be captured and to intervene and rescue her would place the mission or personal in undo risk. Is the decision process going to be altered because its a woman instead of a man? Are they going to be more likely to attempt a rescue that they might not have for this reason?

    Then again she could be just a total lesbo b**ch and they are all glad shes gone…lol

    Okay Wolfie I changed it thanks for the heads up.

    • You made a good point!
      (edited – 🙂 Thanks for understanding. I was really only trying to help.)

    • I heard that the Israelis took out the women when they discovered that when the combat started in earnest, the men would instinctively group around the women to defend them and lose track of the larger mission. Millions of years of evolution can’t be undone with liberal fantasies.

  • Ray

    If women padded up in the NFL, who would watch after the first game?

  • Ray

    McCain is pandering, and comparing a real military to the canadian military is, come on, who is kidding whom?
    This is just a smokescreen to get the focus off Benghazi and the economy.

  • America is several generations out from a “real war”. An all out, 24/7, years long death fest with an opponent of equal or greater skill, equipment and motivation. Normandy. Guadalcanal. Iowa Jima. Or smaller but just as vicious wars like Vietnam, with a year of exhaustion and killing out in the jungle. Every single ounce of “upper body” strength and beyond is needed. The unspoken issue is also that men and woman ARE different. Men are hardwired for aggression, resistance, goal oriented, strategic power struggles. Women are physically and mentally designed for nurturing life, not taking it. Sexual attraction and relationships can only be a potentially fatal distraction on the battlefield. Sure, some women, some of the time, in the right situations, could and do contribute much. But the real question is: how would our “feel good, social experiment” army stack up against, say, an actual, modern army of millions of Communist Chinese troops trained using traditional military methods that have been proven for thousands of years? Remember, as a whole, after over 10 years of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, we basically have lost against small little Jihadi bandit gangs. So…what about facing a real army? With Obama’s deep cuts? With social experiments? Almost all liberal policies and social experiments end in disaster. Why should this be different?

  • I can guarantee you that Canadian Forces with women in combat situations DO NOT rise to the same level as the men… especially in the elite units.
    On top of that, why are they ignoring the SEX problem? Unless all the women are lesbians (which may end up being the case anyway as it takes a certain type of woman both mentally and physically who would want to be in combat) what does Canadian general have to say about that? Since Anderson is gay and has a slanted view of the sexual angle, does he think that there will be no sexual problems with women at forward combat bases when we know that there are already a lot of problems with men and women in these combat zones… rapes, etc.?? like generals screwing their staff which seems to be a common occurrence??

  • Suzyqpie

    Stage a game between the WNBA & the NBA. I will defend intellectual equality until my last dying breath because the neurochemical pathways and the receptor network of the brain are physiologically the same. I will concede that the male physique is superior in musculature and, therefore, endurance. Endurance is the true test of battlefield success.

  • odin147

    I can’t believe we live in a country where this is a debate this islike debating if 1+1 is 2. It is amazing how liberals decide what should be debated, and it is even worse that the conservatives oblige

  • Use to be every town had only one town idiot, they have been breeding.

  • NikitaAnne

    I am a female and a strong one. With that said, I am not capable of the harsh physical demands of a Marine or soldier or SEAL. Can I run 10 km’s or more (yes I am Canadian) with 100 lb’s of gear on my back then proceed to carry a wounded male, twice my weight, another 10 km’s to safety? Can I complete the Darby Queen Obstacle Course? Am I prepared to be on the battlefield pitted against the Muslim enemy who would brutally rape me because it is their allah given right to? What about the psychological damage that would do to my fellow male soldiers? If I am in a jungle and have my period, wouldn’t my bleeding for a week put us all at risk? Would an OBGYN be forced to accompany each unit in combat? – we are talking about liberals and their policies…

    Women can be and are doctors. We are subject to the same mcats as men, the same training, schooling, demands, expectations. In order for liberals to permit women on the front lines they are going to have to lower the physical standards required to do the job men currently do – how on earth does that make the unit stronger and in turn, America and her allies safer?

    To all those who have donned the uniform in the name of freedom, front lines or not, you have my deepest gratitude.

  • Women in combat: I’ve never heard of such a ridiculous thing in my life. They’ll get slaughtered in combat. Talk about a war on women.