Apparently teachers in Utah are learning how to use guns to protect themselves in the classroom. This is a welcome sight compared to the idiocy going on in Washington.
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It’s about time that Obama to set an example with gun control. He needs to order all of his secret service agents and White House security to disarm immediately.
THIS is Precious Payback…..
The Journal News of suburban Westchester, New York caused outrage by publishing an interactive map showing the names and addresses of New York’s legal firearm owners. In response, a blogger decided to create a map showing the names and addresses of employees of the newspaper.
The blog, “Talk of the Sound,” a New Rochelle, New York-centric website, decided that turnabout was fair play by posting its headlined, “Map: Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?.” The map replicates the gun owners map published by the Journal News, replacing gun owners with newspaper employees.
I would give you 1000 “likes” for this if I could. This is absolutely brilliant!!! Turnabout seems to be fair play here. Breitbart lives!!!
Let’s see how they like it…
He said he ran for president so he would have armed guards around his teenage daughters when they started dating!
That must be why when he gets out of OBAMA 1, the flying moterhome.. he is a mile away from the terminal and has three body doubles go seperate ways…
That video shows the solution to begin the end of school shootings.
I am sure it will shock and horrify the Libs, even though many carry concealed weapons.
Have all of you read the new “ban” that Feinstein presented? Good Lord, and from what I’ve read, only 20 votes from RINO’s are needed to pass it in the House. I think we need to be bombarding their office phones and emails…
Typical. A mass shooting occurs.
Libs rush to put more controls on guns and/or gun grab.
Legislation they propose does nothing to prevent future shootings like the one that just occurred.
Then Libs crow to their constituents about how they are working to control gun violence.
Ground Hog Day. Repeat, repeat, repeat.
Let’s go back to when Senators were appointed not elected, the way our Founding Fathers originally designed them to be.
Touche Sandra! Only problem is who might be doing the appointing and therein lies another problem, but I like that thought.
That means repealing the 17th Amendment which was brought to us by Woodrow Wilson (big surprise) and upset the balance of power between the states and the federal government. And the state legislatures appointed their senators prior to 1913 (I think that is when the 17th amendment was added).
I believe that the federal government is broken and beyond redemption – it will be up to our states to assert themselves and find ways to oppose Obama’s agenda. They are doing it by refusing to create Obamacare exchanges and looking into nullification for everything from Obama’s executive orders to EPA regulations, etc. Of course, the blue states will tow the line for Obama, but thanks to the TEA Party and the conservative grass roots, we now have more Republican governors and state legislatures than ever before! Therein lies our HOPE!!!
feinstein is going to cause a huge problem…with her gun grabbing bill….this never let a crisis go has got to stop…how about the videos and the DRUGS these shooters ardoing and given feinstein??? so tired of tax the rich and guns guns guns
where is her bill to get the BAD GUY GUNS???????????????????????///call me when she does thatr
It would be political suicide for congress to vote in support of that bill. Those in true blue states can risk it… the others dare not. I am sure that is the bill the left would love to pass, but I think they realize it will not happen and are using it to try and manipulate the GOP to accept a lesser bill.
My concern is if Obama is able to appoint another leftist to the Supreme Court to replace a conservative, or even moderate. We only one the last 2nd amendment vote by ONE VOTE… it won’t take much with one more liberal justice to redefine the 2nd amendment so it applies to “militia” only and not private citizens (which is they way they spin it!).
I don’t fear a gun in the hand of a moral and responsible person who knows how to use it
I welcome it
I hope this is not a fad and will spread quickly throughout the 50 states. Someone needs to protect the children and we have seen how reliable DC is with their gun controls. If someone in the Newtown tragedy had wielded a weapon lives would have been saved. As it is we live in a society that lacks common sense. This video gives me hope for safer schools.
There are a lot of hunters in Utah, and boys lean how to use guns at an early age. It is just a different attitude about being responsible. The lady referring to her “hidden” gun is talking about an under the bra holster. With a loose blouse, you would never know it was there.
Why does that excite me?
Probably because you have a death wish.
Now, I know you aren’t stereotyping because I served in the Marines, are you? I love the idea of an armed, self sufficient woman. THAT is sexy. Some little unarmed, afraid waif is nothing but predator food.
Na, I was one of those sickly type (4F). Dad was career Naval Air Corp, son Bryan served 2 in the Navy (Electrical Nuke on the Truman), son Pat (2Lt signal corp) is in S.Korea manning a Patriot missile battery and daughter Kaila served 2 as a Sargent (AmmoTech) in the USMC. Grandfather fought in France in the Great War. We go way back: 5th ggrandfather and son served in the Continental Army together.
Best laugh I’ve had all day.
My son attended a middle school in Silver Spring, MD, just north of DC… and they had policemen in the halls. It made the kids feel safe, and I never heard a single parent object. I think, however, that hiring vets would be a better idea. They are well-trained, many need jobs, and they are not members of a union and would be more affordable for the towns and local governments.
Excellent! The way it ought to have been, but it’s good to see now.
This is very encouraging, I hope they have instructors equally adept at teaching situational awareness.
The Leftists will never be happy with “gun control” until only Leftists are allowed to legally possess firearms. Its just one of the many tactics the Leftists use to enslave any Nations’ peoples.
Liberals should never be allowed to own guns. Most murders are committed by liberals and most mass murders are of a liberal bend. Gabbie Gifford was not liberal enough for her shooter.
The best way to defeat a bad guy with a gun is a good guy/gal with a gun.
Exactly! Why libs can’t understand that is beyond me…
Leftists and their statist allies fear guns because they have no experience with them. And leftists like Kirstin Powers like to pretend that they have some expertise to offer because they were raised around them. Yet when they open up their pie holes its obvious to those of us with copious firearms experience, that Kirsten and others like her, are either full of themselves and don’t know what they are talking about, or just flat out lying. Besides, facts don’t matter to the leftist swine. Emotion is what they operate on, not common sense.
Sadly, so true…
I’m befuddled as to why any idiot liberals would be against this. They don’t want armed, trained security people in a school… so this seems to be the next logical (or maybe the best) solution.
Sadly, we have all seen how effective “gun free zones” were. Liberal’s moronic thinking never ceases to stun me… what planet are those people from? Clouded minds…
It is just utterly mind boggling how liberals think. You are so correct. It’s like their brains operate backwards and then they take hypocrisy to levels that any normal human being can hardly describe.
People like Gregory don’t want our kids protected by guns, but he sends his kids to a school with armed guards.
Trying to understand the liberal think is the reason I don’t spend much time on here of late. It’s just so frustrating to have to live by their “moronic thinking”. Talk about unfair.
They’ve always been hypocrites. What’s good for them, is whatever they don’t want the unwashed masses to have. What’s good for the unwashed masses, is whatever which is needed to be taken away from the elites. It’s pathetic.
Yep. Just a plain, yep!
Agreed… It’s worse than a skipping record…
But don’t be a stranger my friend.
When I took a class to be able to get a CCW permit for Utah (PA resident) back in October, the instructor told us that teachers in Utah are permitted to carry. I thought “How brilliant is that???”. Nobody would really even need to exercise that option and it would still reduce the likelyhood of an incident just based on the possible ramifications. Bullies are cowards.
I doubt that Utah will have many staged shootings in their schools.
Well, I hope it works out for Utah. It certainly can’t be any worse than it is right now.
Does anyone know the last massacre that took place in Utah? I can’t recall one. Wow, that sounds like a pretty decent statistic to me….. God bless those teachers.
I am a firm believer in gun control and marksmanship…
I would be most pleased if the Teachers in my area got together and started training and plinking. I have a couple daughters that will one day be in school, and I can’t follow them around all day.
Contrary to the video, you should start with a .22, not that hand cannon that little lady shows. The recoil from that thing will make her scared to shoot and ruin any prospect of accuracy. Start little, get used to it.
What? No .44 mags to start with?
I agree, a small caliber may not have the stopping power, but I can put 10 rounds on target much faster with my .22 LR Ruger that you can with any other semi-automatic pistol: no kick, no re-acquiring the target. Don’t have to stop firing until you are sure perp can no longer hurt you. To me that is when he hits the ground. It is also easier to carry concealed.
You don’t follow court cases much do you? Put 2 or 3 rounds in a perp is defensible. Emptying your magazine will see you put in prison. You are the type of person that has JUST enough info on the subject to be more dangerous than helpful.
It depends on how good a marksman you are. If the guys still moving after 2 or 3 rounds I’ll still be shooting. Practice at a gun range for the average person isn’t going to train them for the fear engendered by an encounter with a bad guy. As a Marine your prepared mentally so your aim would be on target not so for the average gun owner in danger.
This is the point that the anti gun nuts loses the argument. Part of the responsibility of owning a gun is practicing, bewing proficient in its use along with care and security of said fire arm. Gun owners don’t just buy a weapon, store it in a closet without ever practicing then just decide to go to a school and kill a bunch of people.
All the gun owners I KNOW are far more sensitive and thoughtful about the responsibility of gun ownership than our policiticians care for our country.
As uncouth of a statement this may be to some of you (few, I hope), it is about damn time that at least one state dares to look evil in the eye and challenge its own weaknesses to deal with ordinary life and civility in the most humane way. Much applause to the folks in Utah for exercising their Second Amendment rights to fort off the notion that an unarmed, defenseless civil servant is the best panacea for the psychotic behavior of certain individuals. Thank God (Yes, that’s right! Using my own First Amendment right.) these people have stepped up to the plate to rein potential acts of terror!
The parents of those children should be relieved that these teachers will have the capability to blow away any sicko that tries to harm them…..Great idea!!!!!
Teachers are just that, teachers. The vast majority don’t even do that well. The focus for teachers should be PROPER teaching of the facts not their liberal brainwashing.
Put a loaded weapon in the hand of any of these (all happened in 2012), what do you think would have happened:
1. Jerry Sandusky. How many more children would he have raped?
2. Violent rioting teachers in WI. http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/do-the-wild-teacher-protests-in-wisconsin-foreshadow-the-economic-riots-that-are-coming-soon-to-america
3. Phili teacher bullies student wearing Romney T-shirt saying it’s the KKK. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/04/Philadelphia-teacher-bullies-student-for-wearing-Romney-shirt
4. NC teacher screams at student that it’s criminal to criticize Obama
5. This OH special needs student bullied by teacher’s aide. http://abcnews.go.com/US/special-student-taped-bully-teachers/story?id=14923206#.UM9qHXfu3_c
6. This NJ special needs student bullied by teacher. http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher-caught-tape-bullying-student-camera-kids-only-224600400.html
There are countless reports of male teachers assaulting female students that go uninvestigated and many, many more are not reported because the unions defend the teachers and the students are left on their own to face public humiliation. Do you want your child’s teacher to hold your child at gunpoint until they surrender sexually? Do you want a moooslim teacher holding your child at gunpoint until (s)he denounces God and accepts Allah as the only God?
I cannot believe that the very people that post on this site about the liberal brainwashing of children in public schools are the very people that want those teachers to have a loaded weapon in their possession.
It will only take 1 case where a teacher’s gun is taken and used against the teacher, other students or administration and there will be a nationwide call to ban ALL guns and overturn the 2nd Amendment and it will pass.
I have to admit, for the first time I am EXCITED that MN has a full Democrat legislature and Governor and I will proudly support a statewide ban of teachers, principals, administrators having guns in our schools, whether or not they have training. Security needs to be left to the experts and those are not teachers.
Besides, why don’t we extract a bit more profit out of the investment we’ve already made in training military and policy. I know LOTS of Vets I would trust with a firearm and my back turned to them. They may not be in combat condition anymore, me included, but my firearms proficiency and desire to serve are still VERY strong. Hire some folks we ave already paid to train and give them these jobs.
Many a near retirement aged vet or LEO would LOVE that job and he already understands the laws and the proper way to handle and decide to use a firearm. Hell, I had teachers that had trouble reading english. I don’t want them armed.
Hire a military vet, give him a firearm, a decent compensation package and there would never e another successful school massacre. I promise on my own life, this crap would stop.
Absolutely right, Orangeone.
Case in point! This Marine dad is doing just what you suggest (unarmed and unasked) to protect his kids. I have been posting all along that retired military and retired law enforcement should be providing armed security at schools. Hire a Vet & Protect Kids = Win/Win
I saw that and the interviews with the parents of OTHER children at that school are THRILLED beyond explanation at having a Marine standing at the door. For free, voluntarily, out of the goodness and bravery of his own heart.
It is the ONLY solution. The vets are free of the unions and the union influence (independent contractors) as well as the best trained to identify and respond to threats against the students and school. I want them compensated, their military medical insurance premiums paid as well as an allowance for their handguns and firing range time.
Lady, I like the way you think. 100 likes to that post.
Well… there is that.
I see the logic of your points, however they infringe on the rights of others…
In this recent school shooting, anyone could have stopped this madman had they been armed. At the very least, anyone could have had an opportunity to stop it.
Teachers may well be generally a bit more liberal… but overall they are just regular people.
I consider that the Gun Free School zone was a death sentence for every life lost.
And I would not deny the right to self defense or those granted by God and guaranteed by the Constitution to our Teachers.
Yeah…. there is no perfect solution, however those that were in place in this instance clearly failed.
Stay away from gun free zones… they aren’t safe.
As LaPierre pointed out in the Israeli schools, since they are now protected, no further gun violence has occurred where prior to that, it was a problem.
I don’t know the particulars of the way they go about it, but I would have to say whatever they are… adopt them.
Unfortunately the US is not Israel. We do not have the values of the Israelis nor have we had to endure the constant threat of violence that Israel has endured.
Because teachers are public employees and schools are public property, restricting guns onsite is perfectly legal and infringes on no one’s right. You may defend and protect your own property. The taxpayer will pay for all of the lawsuits caused by teachers having loaded weapons, starting with the trauma caused to each student.
Only pointing out the obvious…
Trauma caused by Teachers having loaded weapons pales by comparison.
If the Students are traumatized by that, how will they handle the trauma of a regular traffic stop?
Of course I must have been horribly traumatized, growing up in a family of Commercial Fishermen, Loggers, Cowboys and the like…
So far as infringement, I do not agree as previously stated that a Teacher be disarmed by virtue of their Employer and the Property owner being the Public..
The Public Safety Department seems pretty well protected.
Children will and deservedly so, be traumatized by teachers having loaded guns in the classroom. Teachers are not provided with mental health examinations, are barely licensed in some states and have ZERO supervision. They are having sex with students, impregnating and getting pregnant by students and as my links show, use their mouths to intimidate and brainwash children.
The law in our state is very clear, guns may be banned on public property and private property (by business owners). Comparing an armed teacher to law enforcement is simply ridiculous.
You, me, and probably every single Adult at that school would most likely have placed our lives at risk to defend those children, given the chance.
Teachers,if they are that bad on the whole, should be in prison.
However, I don’t think anything of the sort.
If the rights under the Constitution are good enough for me, well, I will extend those rights to the Teachers as well.
To act any differently put us on the path to….
Your comments reflect a position that you are somehow superior to and more deserving of the rights that we founded this country upon.
Or maybe that THIS Citizen deserves more, or less…
And that argument is dead in the water.
Congratulations, you have thought of an excuse not to move forward. There are many people like you who are afraid to get out of the bed in the morning, or, as in the case of Hobbits, to go out of the door. Your paralyzing fears not withstanding, we do need to move forward and take our chances. Such a student as you describe does not belong in normal school. The other issue is unqualified teachers protected by their unions. A teacher so immature as you mentioned is really not qualified to teach. The added responsibility of gun ownership will help weed these out.
But thanks to the unions we have MANY incompitent teachers. They can’t be fired because of the union and seeing the regular incidence of violence out of union members lately, I’d rather not be armed.
This is what the public schools are full of and have been for decades. Giving them guns will only empower them more to target and terrorize impressionable children. I’ve offered plenty of solutions. Feel free to arm teachers in your schools but when a child is killed by one of those guns, I will be on the side of a national ban on the 2nd Amendment.
And will NOT be willing to give a plug nickel of MY tax dollars to undo the fukcing up of her school district.
Are you aware that “Moving Forward” Is the Nazi motto, right?
Na, history has been rewritten at the behest of Big Brother. Now that saying is attributed to Barrack Obama. You afraid of words? Because your opponent says something you are now afraid of using those words and turning them around? You don’t let the opposition define you, you turn their words back on them. Besides I think the German expression is “Gehe Vor” kind of short and pithy if you speak German.
And you see no similarities between the actions of the Maobama administration and Nazi Germany? Like taking over the banking, auto and healthcare industries? Those were the same three moves hitler did when he took power.
The national socialistic party of Germany had a fantastic program of social change. It only took days to reorder Austria when they moved in. Morality was out, the Catholic Church was dethroned, and everyone quickly learned to go along to get along. Every inspiring socialistic movement has studied these techniques ad infinitum. That is where Obama got his idea for a national police force armed like the military. So what? We know where they are coming from and what their long range goals are. Lock and load, they will be coming over the hill soon.
Though I know you are generalizing, I have to take exception to your comment about “the vast majority don’t even do that well”. My son is a High School teacher, a damn good one, and for the first time we worry for his safety. We live in CT. My husband wanted him to get his pistol permit years ago but it didn’t flush out. Now, we will be pushing him to arm himself. And by the way, the vast majority are GOOD, caring teachers. The teachers in Newtown gave their lives for those children. I’d say that’s a very steep sacrifice to make for the heartless bastards you refer to. You really shouldn’t put the stink of the Lib/Lefty teachers on all the rest. It doesn’t suit them.
Until teachers are out of the grasp and control of their NATIONAL union, I don’t want the unions to have any contact with who gets to carry and who doesn’t. Not all teachers are hacks or liberals but they are ALL members of unions.
Haven’t we seen enough uncalled for violence out of unions in the past couple of years? It isn’t your son we don’t trust. It is the union he is FORCED to comply with that frightens the bejeebers out of us conservatives.
I hope that your son is a good teacher, the vast majority are not.
Kids are dropping out of school left and right, are illiterate and cannot function without a calculator and computer. Teachers are focused on their fat paychecks and benefit packages and not on the education of the students with the unions protecting the incompetent. BTW, I never used the term heartless bastards. But they are your words and very applicable if you look at the links I provided in my post above. Would you like to send your kiddies into a classroom with those thugs knowing they are armed? And let’s also remember the 26,000 teachers recently on strike and the WI teachers protesting that took students with them. Fine upstanding examples of GOOD caring teachers?
The police have not issued their findings in the CT shooting. Newtown had the ability to protect those children but they chose not to continue the federal grant for armed security that they had from 2000-2003. CT is also the 5th strictest in gun control.
This is awesome. Those that are against this are yellow belly, spineless cowards for not being brave enough to protect their innocent children! Their OWN innocent children–COWARDS!
One gunman. Thirty armed teachers. Most likely he’d pick a different school.
Teachers should also drill students on how to take cover in the event of an attack.