Beck: Draft Allen West for Pres but Sarah Palin not so much

Glenn Beck rarely talks politics on his radio or tv show but he did spend a good bit of time on it this morning. Turns out he really wants to start a ‘draft Allen West campaign’ for President with Michele Bachmann as his VP. He also mentions that he thinks that Sarah Palin won’t run for President and criticizes her for not making her first book about deep policy. He says she missed an opportunity to really shore up her policy credentials early on.

Beck covers such a wide gamut here talking about West, Bachmann, Palin, Trump, Santorum, and even a little Ron Paul. Consider this your Beck politics moment for 2011, cause I doubt it will happen again:

If you only want to listen to the Sarah Palin portion, then jump to the 6 min mark.

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  • KeninMontana

    LOL, nice wake up for a Monday. But, I hear the political knives sliding from their sheaths…..

    • Kbbookgirl

      Yep! You know it!

    • JR Dogman

      You better believe it.

  • Persephone

    Yes!

    YES…YES…YES!

    *doing the happy dance*

    I am Conservative.
    So I like them all.
    But I want to win in 2012.

    There is something about Allen West…
    He steals the screen.
    When he gets worked up, doing a speech in front of folks…it is a thing of beauty.

    I think he has what it takes to reach into people’s hearts.
    I think he could be the one to beat the ObamaPropagandaTravelingYesWeCanMachine.

    • Kbbookgirl

      He is not running and is a freshman congressman! Look I like Glenn a lot but this is just fruity. If we want to win in 2012 we need someone with executive experience and record to back up their message. I like West very much and he himself has said that you need to prove yourself in the lower offices before even thinking about running for president. He said he needs to prove he can do more than give a good speech. Good for him! I guess glenn hasn’t learned from his man crush on the governor of New Jersey

      • Persephone

        And Palin is ‘not running’ either.

        Personally, I would love to have someone with ‘executive experience’.
        But that whole ‘must-have-executive-experience’ thing got thrown out the window when BarackObama was elected.
        Did it not?

        The Dems have set the bar so low as to what ‘qualifies’ someone for President…that all the old ideas of bonafides simply do not apply anymore.

        Military Experience…battlefield experience…trumps political experience and ‘executive’ experience IMO.

        Because, afterall….experience in battle is the essence of executive leadership:
        Split second decision-making, courage under fire, willing to die for your convictions….and an instantaneous flexabilty for survival.
        I have been an executive in business.
        And ‘executive experience’ is not just gained in politics.

        • Anonymous

          Hey, I almost said the same thing! LOL!

          • Persephone

            😀

            …bread-and-butter…

            *knuckle bump*

        • Kbbookgirl

          We dont know if she is running or not. How do you know she isn’t? And I agree with you that military experience demands great respect. However it does not “trump” executive experience. Both are a fine way to test character. One more thing. I really dont think its healthy for everyone to be so eager to jump on a newcomers bus. Criste,Rubio,West,Rand, on and on. They were only elected last November!!! Let them do there job and we will see how they turn out. Does anyone here know how they have been voting? Or for the governors what they have been doing for their states lately? This is not a put down on any of these men by the way just a challenge to all of you to really look at all of these people and examine their records not just what they may say in a speech

          • Persephone

            “They were only elected last November!!!”

            Yeees….that’s right.
            Last November was our first TeaPartyElection.
            Think about it.

            The pool of recently elected TeaParty-approved CongressPeople are a good resource for picking someone to run for President.
            We find ourselves at the point that Our Founders did…after their revolution.

            And from someone with over 20 years of executive experience, I would simply point out that it is experience in… ThinkingOnYourFeetWhileRunningWithAligatorsOnOneLegAndDodgingLightningBolts.

            • Anonymous

              OH MY GOSH. Just because someone runs with the teaparty does NOT mean they will be principled politians. They may be or they may cave. WE WILL SEE. Just a few weeks ago mark levin was very upset because many in the house voted no to several cuts. Guess who one of those house members was? Yep Wesr. Let me say it again. I am not slamming West! I think he is great. But never forget to examine what they do and accomplish. And as it stands right now tea party members in the house have accomplished VERY little

              • Persephone

                Yep.
                We’re in a mess, aren’t we.

                And I think that the reason many of the TeaPartyFreshman are voting ‘No’ to the budget CRs is because they are making a ‘protest vote’ that the cuts are not deep enough.
                West said this weekend that he will be voting ‘No’ to the final draft of this last one that Boehner ‘caved’ on.

              • Mike Allen

                There is a lot going on and sometimes it can get a little confusing. West, my Rep Joe Pitts, Bachman, Pence and others voted against the last CR’s because they didn’t cut enough. I’m hoping they’ll do the same this time. Mark Levin agrees. We (meaning the Repub house) hold the purse strings. Lock stock and barrel. There is no need to compromise with those democrat liars. Let obama and the dem senate shut the government down. It will be at their peril. Let them hold back military pay during the shutdown and they will never ever win another election, period. The Tea Party put the Repubs in the majority. The “old school” elitist leaders like Boehner had soon better realize it and listen.
                They are either complicit with the dems, or fools that need a pair of balls. Three cheers to voting this farce down.

              • Mike Allen

                There is a lot going on and sometimes it can get a little confusing. West, my Rep Joe Pitts, Bachman, Pence and others voted against the last CR’s because they didn’t cut enough. I’m hoping they’ll do the same this time. Mark Levin agrees. We (meaning the Repub house) hold the purse strings. Lock stock and barrel. There is no need to compromise with those democrat liars. Let obama and the dem senate shut the government down. It will be at their peril. Let them hold back military pay during the shutdown and they will never ever win another election, period. The Tea Party put the Repubs in the majority. The “old school” elitist leaders like Boehner had soon better realize it and listen.
                They are either complicit with the dems, or fools that need a pair of balls. Three cheers to voting this farce down.

          • Anonymous

            Do you have any clue the patience it takes to run a MITT team? West has experience.

        • Super Mario

          What we desperately need is leadership skills. The president has to work with congress, the senate, and most importantly, with the American people.

          Even if I don’t agree with Mr. West on everthing (I think we agree on core principles though), this is one skill that Washington hasn’t had in a long long time. People need to be brought to attention on the issues and the unfortunate consequences that we will have to face.

          When crap hits the fan, people will need some help holding their heads high and not burying it on the ground. Of course, me and you (the reader reading this post) have to be leaders as well and guide others through the monetary and whatever other issues we may face.

          • Super Mario

            I didn’t really say it in that post so I’ll say it here: I believe Allen West has competent leadership skills.

            That said, I would love it if I knew he had read the Blue Ocean Strategy. Their is some very excellent leadership advice in that book that talks about bringing one and his opposition together to solve problems. Police sheriffs and business leaders have done it. It’d be great to have a President that could do it too.

        • Super Mario

          What we desperately need is leadership skills. The president has to work with congress, the senate, and most importantly, with the American people.

          Even if I don’t agree with Mr. West on everthing (I think we agree on core principles though), this is one skill that Washington hasn’t had in a long long time. People need to be brought to attention on the issues and the unfortunate consequences that we will have to face.

          When crap hits the fan, people will need some help holding their heads high and not burying it on the ground. Of course, me and you (the reader reading this post) have to be leaders as well and guide others through the monetary and whatever other issues we may face.

        • Beeboodeeful

          well said Persephone. And as far as I’m concerned, Allen West has a LOT of experience leading people and managing logistics.

      • Anonymous

        Why? obama didn’t prove himself. West has already proven himself w/honesty, character, integrity, strength, (he definitely has balls) love of country, and he understands what is at stake, obama has none of that. West has run entire commands in war, not an easy thing to do, obama has never run a damn thing except his mouth. The people that have “experience” as potentials I don’t like or think they can beat obama, Cain reminds us experience hasn’t done much for the country.

        Besides if West were to run he would instantly get all the military votes and that would drive the left absolutely out of their minds.

  • Beck is ignorant as usual. Palin has discussed more policy specifics in her speeches and through her writing than anyone else in the 2012 field.

    • I don’t disagree with you, but to be fair I think he was thinking she could have avoided some heat if her first book had been about deep policy.

      I don’t think he was insulting her policy credentials now.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think it would’ve sold though if it was policy book.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think it would’ve sold though if it was policy book.

      • Kbbookgirl

        Rightscoop, you know by now that I am a huge Palin supporter and Im with you on this one. She has done very well on policy of late but I do think she will need to become even more detailed and REALLY come out swinging on policy if she runs. There is a false meme thats been spread about her that she will need to combat HARD to win in 2012. But I think she can do it.

        • WHy is that not said about anyone else? What is West;s plan to deal with entitlements? What is Bachmanns? WHat is anyones? No one has anything specific.

          UH OH, except Palin who wrote an oped saying she supports the Ryan roadmap.

          OOPS, I guess she is specific, and the rest of the field is not. I could go on, but I don’t think it would matter.

          • Anonymous

            Beck isn’t a stupid person. He knows these things. Therefore for him to say this he has to have a different reason. since his statement makes no sense whatsoever to anyone that actually read her book. and her second book was even more filled with policies. Of course it might be he never read either book and is just making a statement based on the media spin.

          • KeninMontana

            If I were a “betting man”, I would wager both West and Bachmann would back Ryan’s plan. Palin in her current role has a luxury that members of congress don’t have. The luxury of distance, that is not a detraction from Palin by any means,so put that dagger back in its sheath, but a statement of the realities of the difference of their situations. That she is backing Ryan’s work is great, fantastic, however why don’t we wait until the battle is joined on the 2012 budget before we start sniping at those representatives that are in the middle of the fray, friendly fire is the worst to be under.

      • Anonymous

        hmmm seems that Rush and Beck read a different book:

        Rush calls Palin memoir “one of the most substantive policy books I’ve read”

        http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911130014

        • KeninMontana

          You’re quoting media matters ? Hardly a reliable source of anything, if they were to say the sky is blue I would still have to look out my window to verify it.

          • Do you listen to Rush? He did say that. I heard it live. You can go to Palintv.com and hear him talk about it. Jeez.

          • Anonymous

            no i am quoting Rush’s own words. the link takes you to rush’s show recorded at the time he said it.

          • Anonymous

            here is another link maybe you will take the time to click this link instead of making some idiotic comment about the source of this one:

            Rush Limbaugh Calls Sarah Palin’s Book “One Of The Most Substantive Policy Books I’ve Read”

            hey I know maybe someone hired someone to fake rush’s voice…..

            • KeninMontana

              Actually I’ve read her book, I don’t need Rush, Beck or anyone else to develop my opinion on who I think would make the best President. Much less the opinion of someone else, particularly a drone that attacks anyone who expresses an opinion that differs from their own.

              • Anonymous

                so do always attack the messenger to try to score points. Let’s see first you attacked the link I provided, now you call me a drone. and yet you still have not addressed the point raised that Rush and Beck have a 180 degree difference in opinion on the matter.

                I read the book too both of them and both are full of policy positions. beck is wrong in his statement.

                • KeninMontana

                  I am no more in Beck or Rush’s mind than you are in Palin’s. Beck and Rush are two different people who both have opinions, the reason they differ might have something to do with the fact that Rush is a Republican and Beck seems to have a more Libertarian tendency, that may it explain it. I did not attack you or Palin, I only questioned your use of media matters as a source.

          • Anonymous

            here is another link maybe you will take the time to click this link instead of making some idiotic comment about the source of this one:

            Rush Limbaugh Calls Sarah Palin’s Book “One Of The Most Substantive Policy Books I’ve Read”

            hey I know maybe someone hired someone to fake rush’s voice…..

        • There is no need to double post stuff. I saw it on your reply to liquidflorian.

      • In fact, her first book discussed policy on the local level, state level, commissioner level, and national level. Regardless, what does that matter?

        The other people in the field did not do that either, so why is she the only one who gets criticized for it?

      • Sarah Palin can’t avoid heat OK. She is Sarah Palin. THe left and the media hate her for existing and daring to criticize their messiah Obama. She will never bow down to them like so many Republicans. And she has a following which makes here more dangerous. No matter what she does, she can’t avoid the heat.

        She could cure cancer today, and the media would report it as “Palin inserts herself into cancer story.”

      • Spartan

        Policy on what? Her first book was necessary because the narrative against her was so bad, and her background was so unknown due to an onslaught from MSM to characterize her as a women that could be our next VP who had a pregnant teenager? She was unable to talk about what she wanted during the campaign. And that she also had to debunk everything made by the snarks within the McCain camp. Her next book was about this great country. How is that not part of a policy? It sure isn’t a consideration of this administration. In fact his policies show he is disgusted by the exceptionalism.

        This is my thought on all the talking heads speaking about 2012. They are so desperate to find someone, anyone who can beat Obama in 2012 that every combination of possibilities is thrown out to gain traction? Bachman/West, West/Rubio, Bachman/Rubio, Rubio/West. Yadda,,,Yadda. Everyday the combo changes. And yet here we are once again, unsatisfied. The names that have been thrown out either aren’t ready and are unwilling at the moment, or they are just so despised by the voters. The very people that Glenn want as leaders, to my knowledge haven’t even come close to writing anything near what Sarah has written about in her books? Or for that matter if they have written books, outsold her? I might say the sale of both her books is a reflection of her ‘policy’ on capitalism?

        Imagine if the gas pipeline is a success in Alaska? How much more credibility does she have to garner for serious thought? Her budget that she approved before she left office has already proven to be a success. I already know where she stands on the issues. And I certainly don’t need to her to be out on the talkshow circuit every week trying to make the case to the American people. Please point to a moment where she had to say; ‘I was for it before I was against it’? This Wednesday night we will be receiving that message from a guy who was against raising a debt ceiling, to a guy who is all for it!! Is that policy you want???

        It’s easy to yell from the cheap seats or speak into a microphone on your own show about what Sarah SHOULD be doing. I trust her more than anyone else being considered. She’s not dependent on someone else’s opinion. Most in Washington rely on the ‘good press’. She has taken all the slings and arrows of criticism with class. All the while sayin’ a curse on all of you in Washington for not caring about this country. When she’s ready, I will be to. Plain and simple. Hmmmm,,,,you might say,,,,,a pretty good policy!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Did you read either of Palin’s books Scoop? Do we know if Beck has read them?

        Can you name the potential candidates that have written deep policy books that have drawn critical acclaim and lifted that candidates policy credentials?

        I would love to see your top ten deep policy books over the last ten years or so.

        Maybe I will check them out and see what I have missed. Thanks in advance.

    • KeninMontana

      You obviously didn’t hear or didn’t really listen to what he said in regards to Palin. He stated that she should have come out with the policy statements sooner, and that he did not feel that she really wants to run for the office. Hardly derogatory,just an opinion.

      • Her policy statements have lead everyones and been the most specific. Just look at the dates of her facebook posts, and compare to what other people say a week later.

        I guess Glenn did not do his research, or he just had some staff do it and they did a poor job.

      • Anonymous

        No it was moving the goal posts. Rush disagrees with Beck as far as the book goes. It is the same type of statement that we got form CK. No matter what Palin did someone like beck would have said she should have did this or that instead. It is a candard set up to dismiss someone.

        Palin has talked more policy than any other candidate more ideology than any other candidate. To not admit that and set up a strawman is the worse type of argument one can make and beck should be ashamed of himself for pulling such a lazy debate tactic.

        • KeninMontana

          He was debating someone? Really? Sounded to me like he was giving an opinion, off the cuff.

          • Anonymous

            then you were not listening.

            • KeninMontana

              Not listening to who, Beck? Palin? Supporting the person you would like to see run for President is all well and good,however your “attack dog” tactics will drive more people away than it will attract more support.

              • Anonymous

                ROFL….oh that is rich……sure….I haven’t attacked you or called you a drone or an attack dog. the only one attacking anyone is you attacking me.

                West has said he isn’t running therefore he isn’t a candidate. Palin as stated over and over that she is thinking about running. therefore she is a potential candidate until she says like West that she isn’t.

                • KeninMontana

                  Go back and reread it I said “attack dog tactics”. I questioned your source and you implied I was an idiot, so I guess that makes us even. There are several “potentials” I would support but none so far I would zealously support.

    • LovetheGOPofYesteryear

      yeah, but she didn’t write any of that stuff. She can’t even remember what she wrote, since she didn’t write it and she contradicts herself regularly.

      There was a time that I thought she really had it together, but lately she just looks hyped up or drugged out and she’s lost ALL credibility because all she does is attack and accuse, and never offers anything positive to the conversation.

      She is oozing her hatred and horror at being beaten by Obami and has such a thin skin that she would never survive a debate, much less a real interview. It’s no wonder she’s diving in the polls because americans are seeing her for the fraud that she is and they ain’t likin’ it much.

      It’s sad, since she really had it handed to her on a silver platter, but she just went for the attention and the money. She’s a loser and a quitter and that is the truth, no matter how you spin it.

      It would be great if she just shut the hell up and let the grownups talk, but unfortunately the GOP field is not exactly brimming with them this cycle. I miss the days of real Republican thinkers and doers, instead of the jokes that are there today. Not a one of them could even stand in the same room with President Reagan and not be a laughingstock.

      She didn’t ‘write’ her first book, she stole from others on her second book, she is wired in her interviews, she uses a teleprompter and when it malfunctions, she freaks out and can’t even follow her notes. She only shows up on softball, preplanned, interviews where she has all of the questions and answers in advance and she STILL can’t pull it off. What happened to that amazing firecracker that blew the country’s socks off at the 2008 convention? She is long gone and has been replaced by an opportunistic, greedy, conniving liar who is more and more of a disappoint every day. And, like I said, Americans are getting more and more wise to her and her ignorance and manipulation. Thank God.

      • Anonymous

        Wow.

    • JR Dogman

      Damn straight. Beck is wrong, period. In the *majority* of her speeches, interviews, Facebook posts, and op-eds Gov. Palin addresses the most pressing issues of the day in *very specific* terms. She routinely cites numbers and the bases for her arguments — then she offers *specific* solutions, e.g., endorsing Rep. Ryan’s Roadmap.

      Gov. Palin has been out front on spending, the debt, reformation of our entitlement programs, defense, Libya, abortion, energy, taxes. It’s not only that that makes Beck 100% wrong, however. Rep. Bachmann is great on the issues too, and she doesn’t mince words. But speaking frankly is one thing, and being able to frame the debate and shape the narrative is quite another.

      Right now, there are just *two* in the GOP who know *exactly* how to frame the debate and go around the MSM: Gov. Palin and Rep. West. Both handle the MSM/Democrat Party with an ease that is nothing short of incredible.

      So why would Beck ever suggest that it must be West, not Palin? Rep. West *will* be president — bet on it. But it doesn’t mean that now is the best time for him to run (it may be, I don’t know), and it certainly doesn’t mean that Gov. Palin should be written off — to do that would be *insane*.

      Anyhow, Beck is dead wrong about the most important thing. How he doesn’t see it is beyond me, because the MSM/Democrats see it: they are *terrified* of Gov. Palin, as they know that if she wins the GOP nomination, she won’t just *beat* Obama.

      She’ll grind him to dust under one of her high heels. Here’s why:

      http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/03/the-winner-or-wake-up-george-will-wake-up.html

  • Mcjj

    Love Allen West!!!! I want him to run too!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Both Allen West and Michelle Bachmann are Fantastic. Unfortunately, Allen West is not running. Although I love Michelle Bachmann, I think that she will be a much more attractive candidate in either 4 or 8 more years. If I had to create a candidate from a blank sheet of paper, I don’t think I could come up with a better candidate than Herman Cain. He has an amazing combination of leadership, communication and problem solving skills and is a man of character and integrity. I strongly urge people to learn as much as possible about him (hermancain.com).

  • Anonymous

    Palin/West 2012

  • Anonymous

    I heard Glenn say West for President and spewed my coffee! I wanted to rewind the radio. So happy you posted this. Wing and prayer hope this will get West to go for it. Some days I feel like West is being coy and doing the dance to test the waters and other days I believe he won’t run for 2012. It’s giving me a headache and stomachache. His country needs him more now than ever, and if waits for the future we won’t have an America for him to be president of. Way to go Glenn!

    I would want Paul Ryan for treasurer.

    Where is the petition Glenn? Put one on your website and see what happens.

    • Allen does often talk about LEADERSHIP and the current lack thereof in our gov’t., particularly the White House….

      The contrast between the current occupant and Allen West’s own sterling example could not be any more obvious!

    • Allen does often talk about LEADERSHIP and the current lack thereof in our gov’t., particularly the White House….

      The contrast between the current occupant and Allen West’s own sterling example could not be any more obvious!

  • Oh wow, Beck is clueless on this. I am not going to bother listening to that clip. A freshman congressman as a presidential candidate? way to go man. I love, love West and he would be a great choice for the VP slot.

    I stopped listening to him after he interview Palin where the Statue of Liberty was behind him.

    Palin/West 2012

    PS. did he not read her second book? no, I guess not.

    • zytekfan

      Don’t say it can’t happen because Obama won with no government “experience” since he voted “present” most of the time

      • Gee, thank you for your insight. Obama is also a leftist and the media will not expose his incompetence or lies even if he was an unqualified 30 year old applying for the job. West is a black conservative and he will be lied about and attacked more than Palin has been.

      • JD

        It can’t happen because Allen West is a man of character and he won’t run. West feels that he attained everything he has in his life because he EARNED it. He paid his dues. He got experience. Dumb-Ø like every other Øppressive wants something for nothing. Sort of like the little squirt who just graduated college and now thinks he deserves the corner office. Allen West is an adult. Dumb-Ø needs to grow up. West is a great man. He also happens to be my congressman and he admits that he is not ready yet. I suggest that you rethink and admit that West knows himself better than you do.

  • sDee

    I only saw Beck interview Palin once. A long time ago. Palin was very wary and cautious in how she answered.

    Beck may well be behind Huntsman Jr. Obama’s ambassador pick to China.

    Who knows what is playing out. America will need leadership to make crucial decisions based on core principles. We should focus on those we know will do that without regard for their political career or party.

    • Anonymous

      Glenn just said West for president so I don’t think Huntsman is in the picture.

      • Anonymous

        I like West. his speeches are a thing of beauty. But I liked him more before he started voting.

    • zytekfan

      Huntsman Jr isn’t quite like his father. Jr. is more of a RINO

  • This Glenn Beck has really pissed me off. Sarah Palin has been assaulted on an unprecedented scale. Her privacy has been invaded. She has been stalked, threatened with rape and murder, blamed for mass murder, and despite it all she has remained upbeat and positive while advocating policy specifics through writing and speaking.

    Glenn says he is friends with her, and yet he treats her like this? I don’t treat my friends like this. He gives the left, and her opponents a club to beat her with? He is a coward and a piece of crap. He goes ON AND ON about being honorable on his shows, and this is how he acts?

    The fact is, she has been specific on policy from day one. She has actual executive experience governing with policy. Her writing is all over the place. It is more specific than anything the rest of the 2012 field is putting out. Who else has endorsed the Ryan roadmap and Rand Paul style cuts to deal with the budget for example? That is a fact.

    I am glad he will be off the air. There are enough frauds on TV as it is.

    • Anonymous

      I wonder how many people would have showed up for becks 8/28 thing if Palin wasn’t there. I know I wouldn’t have watched it if Palin was a speaker. In fact after her speech I turned it off.

  • I agree with Beck. Just subtract Ron with Rand and add a little Cain for my 2012 Dream Team.

  • Persephone

    Maybe Beck’s comment about Sara going into “deep Policy”…is his way of saying she should’ve addressed why she quit.

    Lookit…I love Sarah Palin.
    She’s great.
    But right now, she could be in her Second Term as Governor of Alaska.
    The libtards drove her out.
    And she gifted them the sword that will keep slashing her.

    If she is really serious about ever running for a political office again.
    Then she must ask herself…What would Bill Clinton do.

    I watched the nightmare of the Clinton years.
    The guy had dead bodies, claims of rape, money laundering….you name it, he had the scandals.
    But he would throw that stuff out there.
    Let the dogs chew on it, and tear it to pieces.
    And then ::poof:: …it just went away.

    So Sarah Palin needs to do that.
    Throw that whole thing about what caused her to quit her-executive-position…out there.
    Talk about it.
    Stop acting like it is going to go away.
    It is not a battle that her surrogates can fight for her.
    She needs to throw that all out there, herself.
    Let the dogs chew on it, tear it to pieces.
    She needs to make that go away.

    • She has done that. She was asked it in every interview she did after that. During the book tour, before the book tour, and after. She gave speeches explaining it. Do you want her to skywrite it?

      She has explained it over and over and over. If that is not good enough, then so be it, but she has explained it countless times.

      All of this is on video and audio. You can find it in two seconds online.

      This woman is held to such a double standard including by so called conservatives it is infuriating. I used to think the left was more devoid of fact, but now I think it is equal. Most conservatives are just as devoid in regard to the facts as they are.

      • Persephone

        I guess I have missed all those “countless times” that she “explained it”.
        And I watch…a lot…and read.

        But it obviously isn’t enough.
        Because that it is the single biggest problem that most conservatives have with Sarah.
        I have heard…”If she quit once, she will do it again”.
        It cuts me to the heart…because I have nothing to say to that.

        If Sarah wants the Presidency…
        Then she’s got to throw all that stuff out there.
        All of it.
        The Timeline of what made her resign.
        The specifics.
        It needs to be out there, getting chewed on….or it will never go away.

        You and I know that she ‘Took it outside..so the fight would not hurt the innocent’.
        That’s what conservatives do.
        But she let the Left frame it the way that they wanted to.
        So it looks like she handed them a victory.

        • Anonymous

          It’s old news.

        • Go to palintv.com and look up all the radio interviews she did for going rogue. Watch the speech she gave in Alaska, TWICE on the resignation, watch her interview with Greta Van susteren. So yes, you did miss them because they are legion. Did you read going rogue? It is in there too IN DETAIL.

        • K~Bob

          Only those who are totally comfortable with lawsuit abuse think that completing her term would have been a better choice.

          Leftists are clearly comfortable with lawsuit abuse. But any leftist complaints about her stepping down are just the usual self-serving blather, and can be ignored. Sadly, too many on the right are totally comfortable with lawsuit abuse, as well.

          For me it’s a litmus test of sanity or degree of ignorance. If you chose to remain ignorant of “why” she stepped down, that’s fine. Just be prepared to be called on it. If you are aware of “why” and still think she should have finished her term, then be prepared to be called on your comfort with lawsuit abuse.

          • Kbbookgirl

            WOW That great post K bob

            • Kbbookgirl

              Forgive me. I meant to say thats a great post

              • K~Bob

                Thanks!

                I’ve studied all the usual, “but she still could have,” arguments posted by anti-Palin right wingers, and they all boil down to that same thing. The only way she could have kept her job and her honor, both, would be to go massively into debt, which could destroy her family.

                She did have a slight chance to hold on to the job and not go quite so deeply into debt (only slightly better), but it would have cost Alaskan taxpayers money, and also a give them a totally ineffective Governor, who would have been frozen out of most gubernatorial duties due to demands of the court.

                That choice was *not* honorable, and that she refused it says much about her character. The Palin critics who level the “she quit” charge after reading the facts are comfortable with more than just lawsuit abuse: they also seem fine with the less honorable path.

                Both aspects should be problems for any Conservative.

                • The problem is that the lamestream media is a highly effective brainwashing machine, and they gave the public THEIR narrative.

                • Persephone

                  Honor is a good thing, absolutely.
                  And while I think that she did the honorable thing…it is lost on the Left who are largely without honor.

                  And um…it gives the Left a formula to use against Conservatives.
                  Create-a-situation-where-they-are-faced-with-doing-the-honorable-thing…and you can make Conservatives back off.
                  Its like using human shields in combat.
                  That is what happened last week, when Obama & the Dems were shamelessly hurting our Military…and Boehner felt he had to back off.

          • Persephone

            That’s a good strategy….going into ‘lawsuit abuse’.
            (I suggested that on another thread.)

            The mouth breathers on the Left are okay with using the legal system as a blunt instrument to bludgeon their opponents.

            But it won’t work on Conservatives, like myself, who have had to fight off some frivolous lawsuits themselves.
            It would be more effective to dwell on how badly Sarah was bludgeoned with the shear massiveness of the assault on her.
            Weren’t there a couple hundred FOIA requests alone?
            Few people have ever had to fend off the kind of massive attack that Sarah had to contend with.

            And lawsuit abuse is all around us!
            It has added layers of expense to our everyday lives.
            — We have the LawsuitAbuser-in-Chief in the White House….Obama’s suit against Citicorp back in the ’90’s [on behalf of Acorn] is what led us into the Subprime Lending mess, and the subsequent Banking Crisis.
            — Medical lawsuits have caused our healthcare costs to skyrocket, because everyone from band-aid makers to brain surgeons have had to load up on liability insurance…and pass the cost on to us consumers.
            — Every manufacturer, business owner, property owner…has to have major liability insurance in order to survive against lawsuit abuse, which adds to the cost of doing business.

            I think it would be great to see Sara come out and blast Lawsuit Abuse.
            It would endear her even more to conservatives.
            And it would clear the air about her reasons for quitting her job.
            But only so much can be accomplished by her supporters…it needs to come from Sarah herself.

            You misunderstand me and my attempts to bring up this issue of her quitting.
            I think she would make a great President.
            But she has to win first…and that will take some winning strategy, and a lot of money.
            Attacking conservatives who would be her biggest donor base, is not a winning strategy.

    • She has done that. She was asked it in every interview she did after that. During the book tour, before the book tour, and after. She gave speeches explaining it. Do you want her to skywrite it?

      She has explained it over and over and over. If that is not good enough, then so be it, but she has explained it countless times.

      All of this is on video and audio. You can find it in two seconds online.

      This woman is held to such a double standard including by so called conservatives it is infuriating. I used to think the left was more devoid of fact, but now I think it is equal. Most conservatives are just as devoid in regard to the facts as they are.

  • Funk

    I think Herman Cain is a better man for the job.

    • Herman Cain is not who you think he is. He has very good economic sense but the man shows an astounding ignorance of the Constitution.

      • K~Bob

        I think he shows a love for the Constitution, coupled with a not-soaked-in-DC, lack of preparedness for his more vicious critics. He’s open to the more vicious critics because he kicks the ass of policy and economy critics.

        Once he’s been through a campaign, you’ll see some tempering to go along with that fire. Then he won’t make some of those “gotcha” type gaffes that fascinate the talking heads.

  • Why isn’t Allen West on your straw poll?

  • Why isn’t Allen West on your straw poll? Where West was listed on other polls he won hands down… I’m a co-Administrator for the “Draft Allen West For President In 2012” group page and our group is gaining momentum daily… There is tremendous support for this man from “the people” it’s about time the media started taking it seriously because it’s those same people that put West in the House of Reps.

    • KeninMontana

      He was on one of the straw polls, there were two polls. One was for candidates that were “likely” the other was a “wish list”, West was on the wish list poll as he stated he would not run for President.

      • You’re right about the “wish list” poll Kenin, but not all of the above have declared they would run either, yet West still isn’t on this poll, just wondering why? Especially in light of the provocative statements West has made repeatedly that he “will do whatever the American people wish him to do” and “If it is Gods will” he will run, as well as the the support by Beck and the results of the following poll:

        http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=3261&pollShowResults=1

        There have been other polls as well but I did not include them because they have closed and the reults are no longer available… there was also a poll started on facebook that won by over 100,000 votes… I will try to find you the link.

        • I hope this doesn’t offend you but you’re wasting your time. Allen West already said he wasn’t going to run and I take him at his word.

          I love West and I think he would be an awesome presidential candidate down the road, but for 2012? where’s his executive experience? policy outlines?

          Well good he’s at least aware he’s not qualified for the job.

          • Persephone

            Obama wasn’t ‘qualified’ either.
            And he won.

            We could have the MostQualifiedCandidateEver…and if they do not posess the ability to energize the Vote, then we will lose.
            Again.

            • Oh I am so glad (thrilled actually) that we’re now using Obama to gauge how qualified our presidential candidates should be. So glad. Well, hey, at least he’s good for something now.

              Thanks for answering my questions. I hope Shannon Evans doesn’t respond in the same way.

              • Persephone

                No.
                Obama’s win illustrated that the voting public will vote for whomever makes them ‘feel good’.

                Our Candidate must be able to win against the ObamaPropagandaTravelingExtravaganzaYesWeCanMachine.

                That is…how it is. Unfortunately.

                The Left is reaping what they have sown:
                — A young voting public that was indoctinated into thinking that ‘socialism’ is something cool, like social media.
                — Entrenched union mentality in our State and Local Governments.
                — The idea that the Government ‘owes-me-somethin’.
                — A liberal controlled media…and a large part of the Internet.
                — Government legislation that defies comprehension.
                I could go on…but you probably already know what I am talking about.

                So…I am merely pointing out, that we must have someone who has a personal charisma that rivals Obama’s.

              • KeninMontana

                I think Obama is a good choice for placement on such a grading scale, maybe like one point below the absolute bottom of such a scale.

                • Ok you two, what you’re saying makes perfect sense because West will be as exulted as Obama, right? right.

                  And here I thought only those on the left don’t make sense and are void of facts and substance. Apparently, I am wrong in thinking that these days

                • KeninMontana

                  Wow, talk about a leap into the abyss. Don’t quit your day job and go into the psychic business. I curious were you gathered that from my comment.

                • I don’t have a day job, I am a student.

                  And the comment was more directed at Persephone. Sorry for the confusion. Don’t get all bent out of shape.

                • Persephone

                  Oh….your comment “was more directed at Persephone”…?

                  Very well.

                  Facts and substance are good.
                  Where did I claim that they are not?

                  If ‘facts and substance’ were the only requirement for winning, then why did Rand Paul not win?
                  If ‘facts and substance’ are the most important thing…then why did Dennis Kuchinch not win over Obama?

                  You can go outside and scream at the bad weather…
                  But that will not change it.

                  The current forecast is saying that Charisma wins over ‘facts and substance’.
                  I am lamenting this sad state of affairs, not extolling its virtue.

                  You’re a student?
                  That explains a lot.

                • Persephone

                  Hey, DetroitS, I apologize for that last “explains a lot” remark.
                  Just because you were rude to me, doesn’t make it okay for me to slap you back.

                  And if you are a young person who has resisted the liberal indoctrination that is going on in our schools…then you should be applauded for that alone.

                  So…sorry about that.

                • I don’t think I was being rude. Did I sound frustrated? sure. But if I came off rude to you, I apologize.

                  I didn’t care about politics, or about what’s happening in our country and sure, maybe I was a little bit brain washed. Do you why I care now? why I am more aware? because of Sarah Palin. Not loony Beck, or self absorbed Fox news anchors, or spineless GOP boys. It was because of Palin. Thanks, but don’t applaud me. I didn’t do anything.

                  If what the Right has been saying is true, I would be one of the first people to criticize her. But it’s not true. Palin has done more for the conservative movement, and women, than any other politician in my lifetime (or so it seems to me). I can’t believe the crap, sexist and otherwise, the Right throws at her. Whatever. Conservatives don’t deserve her and if she wasn’t “serious” or has indeed worked very hard to outline deep policy, she would have retreated a long time ago and simply indulged in her “newly found celebrity status.”

                • Persephone

                  I was one of the ones who was writing to McCain’s campaign manager, repeatedly demanding..pleading..for Sarah to be their VP nominee.
                  I have been a fan since I saw her on Cavuto, about 6 months before that.
                  So, we share a love for this extraordinary woman.
                  I will always be one of her biggest fans.
                  I wouldn’t blame her, if she didn’t run.
                  Because if she does…it will get bloody, and she knows this.

                • Sir/Ma’am, it will be bloodier when a freshman black conservative congressman decides to run or anyone else for that matter against Obama. I wouldn’t blame her either, but as she continues to contemplate, let’s continue to support her and speak up when Beck, or whomever, says things that are simply not true.

                  People can e-mail Beck here: [email protected]

                • KeninMontana

                  I wasn’t, bent just curious, however IF West were to run, I would look at his military command experience as at the very least as equivalent to Palin’s executive experience as governor. That is in noway meant as a detraction of Sarah’s qualifications. Military command is an executive position, the type of decisions that are a life and death matter in more than a metaphoric use of the phrase. But as far as candidates go this year has been more frustrating than most because it seems none of the “potentials” seem to be “dipping their toes” instead of coming out and declaring one way or the other. I want to see substantive debate between those that are willing to stand up and commit to it. I don’t care how the pundits, media commentators or political zealots feel nor am I interested in their opinions as they all wear them on their sleeves. I want to hear what the candidates policy positions are, not what they say they will do if elected mainly because when a candidate says “If elected I will…” it essentially is nothing more than a platitude to garner votes and it’s 9 times out of 10 something that the office does not have the authority to execute. If they do state what they are going to do, I want to hear how they are going to accomplish it. However at this point in the “game” all I have seen or heard are the rantings of diehard supporters of “wishlist candidates” and as I have previously stated I don’t want to hear it from them. At this rate the GOP and the Conservatives will cut each other to ribbons in a bloodbath of political “jihad” and all the Dems and libs will have to do is sit back and watch. We are doing their dirty work for them.

                • Anonymous

                  People that say West doesn’t have experience do not understand the military or understand his rank.

                • What I would love to see candidates do is NAME NAMES — the names of the people they would want to appoint as Attorney General, Sec. of HHS, Sec. of Treasury, Sec. of Defense, Natl. Security Advisor, etc. That would tell us more than anything.

                • KeninMontana

                  I’m still waiting for the “candidates” to declare, so far all we have are a few exploratory committees.

          • Kltwazzup

            Things change over time. Draft West. We don’t have time for DC to corrupt him. You are right though the only executive experience he has is leading men in battle. The man is a patriot though. Hell, if he was a farmer he could be the black George Washington.

            Go West

    • LTC West has already stated he doesn’t think he has the experience to run in ’12 @ the top of the ticket. He also said he wouldn’t rule out being some(¿SP?)one’s running mate.

      I’d love to see him run for POTUS, but since he said that, my ticket is
      ☆☆☆Palin-West☆☆☆

  • Take a shower everybody. I love Glenn, but he’s not the best at picking candidates. I love Allen West, but I have old socks with more political experience than he has.

    If he runs it will be interesting, but I think he is mature enough to know it’s not his time.

    As a second choice, Beck is impressed with Bachmann. Take it for what it’s worth.

    • Anonymous

      that might be the first thing you said that I could agree with….

  • zytekfan

    The people are calling you Mr West!

  • myfairlady

    So now that Sarah Palin has helped win victories in 2010; encouraged millions of voters to donate to the different campaigns in 2010; excited, energized and encuraged the voters to actually go vote in 2010; she is no longer needed. Every media outlet has made tons of money of her one way or another for the last 3 years. She and her family has endured pure hell from so many vile spineless and gutless people.

    She has written tons of articles on policy over the last 2 years–and yet she hasn’t boned up on policy. WHAT THE HELL YOU SAY—GIVE ME A FREAKIN’ BREAK!!!

    I know a damn setup when I see one and the Ruling Class has sent out the marching orders from on high to tear down and take out Sarah Palin once and for all! Well we can just hold on to our pocketbooks and not give anyone else one red cent friom this time forward, no working phone centers and block walking. I’m done with all of them!!

    • Mediaccess

      If she doesn’t run, I just may not vote. I’m sick of these RINO’s!! Why would a “friend” say such degrading and mainstream things!!!!!

    • CaribouBarbiePalin

      Sarah set herself up for failure. She has been more than willing to do or say anything if the price is right. She made a ton of money as she also made a complete fool of herself. The GOP doesn’t need her anymore, now they’re looking for someone with a brain.

  • myfairlady

    So now that Sarah Palin has helped win victories in 2010; encouraged millions of voters to donate to the different campaigns in 2010; excited, energized and encuraged the voters to actually go vote in 2010; she is no longer needed. Every media outlet has made tons of money of her one way or another for the last 3 years. She and her family has endured pure hell from so many vile spineless and gutless people.

    She has written tons of articles on policy over the last 2 years–and yet she hasn’t boned up on policy. WHAT THE HELL YOU SAY—GIVE ME A FREAKIN’ BREAK!!!

    I know a damn setup when I see one and the Ruling Class has sent out the marching orders from on high to tear down and take out Sarah Palin once and for all! Well we can just hold on to our pocketbooks and not give anyone else one red cent friom this time forward, no working phone centers and block walking. I’m done with all of them!!

  • JE

    Maybe Beck will join us at – http://www.AllenWestforPresident.us

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t “We the People” put all presidential elections on hold until this matter off having an illegal usurper in the White House at this moment has been brought to justice!

    The U.S. Constitution says a president “shall” be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. It doesn’t say that a president “maybe” may be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. The U.S. Constitution doesn’t say if there is doubt about a presidential candidate being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, just skip it then and let anyone be president.

    The Constitution says “No Person” except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

    The very first United States Supreme Court Chief Justice John Jay and the seventh United States Supreme Court Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite understood NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as originally intended by America’s Founding Fathers to mean being born to a mother and father both of whom were U.S. citizens at the time of birth.

    Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen. Obama was never a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Obama is an illegal usurper living in the People’s White House making Illegal laws and now illegal wars! Obama needs to be brought too justice before there is another president! Glenn Beck should know this! Allen West should know this! All of America should know this!

    • Anonymous

      His father was a citizen of British East Africa in 1961 and their laws which would have governed any offspring of its citizens – no matter where they were born.

      Their law stated that a wife (time of marriage) and/or offspring (at birth) of their citizens automatically become British citizens, i.e. “natural-born subject”. They considered the act of birth itself was an act of naturalization that required no prior consent.

      Furthermore, birth was viewed (by UK law) as enjoining a “perpetual allegiance” upon all that could never be severed or altered by any change of time or act of anyone.

      – In other words, once a UK citizen always a UK citizen –

      So – could this be what POTUS has spent so much money trying to hide, also part of his intractable animosity towards present day England, et al.?

      • Anonymous

        Read Article 2 Section 1 again. It clearly establishes two classes of citizenship. Natural Born Citizen and the Citizen. Citizen is for those who want to be a member of the House or Senate. But Natural Born Citizen is designated specifically for the president. Shouldn’t the appropriate question to be asked all across America then is…. what is the difference between a Natural Born Citizen and a Citizen as originally intended by our Founding Fathers?

        But think about it. The president is the highest held office in the United States. So it’s only reasonable to conclude that Natural Born Citizen is to be superior to Citizen. It takes more to be a Natural Born Citizen than to be just a Citizen. But what is it?

        Google the 1874 SCOTUS case of Minor v. Happersett. In that case Morrison R. Waite gives the original intent of the Founding Fathers Natural Born Citizen which means being born to a mother and father both of whom are both U.S. Citizens at the time of birth.

        We all know Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen. Obama was never qualified to be a Natural Born Citizen. Obama is a usurper and illegal president!

        The reason the Founding fathers wanted a Natural Born Citizen for the Office of the President has to do with the president’s role of Commander and Chief of the Military. They wanted a Commander and Chief who was beholden with a strong sense of allegiance, loyalty, and devotion to America. Compare that concept with the illegal usurper we have in the White House today.

        • Anonymous

          First of all, I wrote on this site about the legal definition of “natural–born citizen” having legal precedents but is still being debated and IMHO will not be settled conclusively until the Supreme court makes a final ruling – at least six weeks (if not longer) ago. I said a lot more that I will not repeat now, but I stated much of what you have just said. My points were more legal and etymological in nature – not so much ideological.

          If you would re–read the first paragraph of my comment, you will see I was speaking of British laws circa 1961 and what effect they would had on all – POTUS, his father and mother. His father would have been a citizen of Kenya/British East Africa or ACUK.

          For future reference, please let me know where the misunderstanding occurred.

          • Anonymous

            Did I trespass? Did I annoy you? It sounds like I have somehow offended you?

            If there is a misunderstanding I would say firstly that it seems that we are two different people with a common goal…but a different approach.

            But you ask of a misunderstanding. To that I would say that you speak in terms of law….I speak in terms of American History.

            • Anonymous

              I’m not annoyed – just tired – but in the past have been accused of speaking pedantically which may sound like I’m offended – that’s just the way I talk.

              I will say, from how your reply read I thought you didn’t realize I was talking about POTUS not being a citizen from an additional source to not being ‘natural born citizen’. I thought I hadn’t made myself clear enough. 🙂

              • Anonymous

                Understood. But also understand that you and I are at war! We are at war with all political pundits like Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter (these two I just saw on TV together and it was pathetic) and the rest. These sick and twisted people are deliberately and intentionally mis-educating their viewers into thinking that all is required to be an American President is to have a birth certificate! They deliberately and intentionally refuse to educate their viewers about Article 2 Section 1 and NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

                These people are deliberately trying to rewrite the U.S. Constitution by ignoring the Amendment process. Before Obama came along I believed these political pundits where trying to do the right thing of informing people about the evils of the liberal democratic agenda. Not anymore! For these people to actually intentionally mislead the American People about Constitutional Law and History makes them worst than liberals in my opinion!

                The People of America has a very serious problem on their hands but most don’t know it and it is those that need to be informed of it! I guess that is up to the few people like you and me! This is war!

                • Persephone

                  Well said.

                  Sometimes I wonder…about our conservative political pundits and show hosts…
                  They are all making so much money writing books, enjoying high ratings and getting lots of attention….do they really want to see Obama leave office?

              • Anonymous

                Understood. But also understand that you and I are at war! We are at war with all political pundits like Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter (these two I just saw on TV together and it was pathetic) and the rest. These sick and twisted people are deliberately and intentionally mis-educating their viewers into thinking that all is required to be an American President is to have a birth certificate! They deliberately and intentionally refuse to educate their viewers about Article 2 Section 1 and NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

                These people are deliberately trying to rewrite the U.S. Constitution by ignoring the Amendment process. Before Obama came along I believed these political pundits where trying to do the right thing of informing people about the evils of the liberal democratic agenda. Not anymore! For these people to actually intentionally mislead the American People about Constitutional Law and History makes them worst than liberals in my opinion!

                The People of America has a very serious problem on their hands but most don’t know it and it is those that need to be informed of it! I guess that is up to the few people like you and me! This is war!

  • Mediaccess

    Makes me mad! I got all Beck’s books – well, most of them. But this jumble leads me to believe he’s another fraud!!!!!!!!!!!

  • twenty12

    A Bachmann and Palin ticket would make the media go CRAZY! Other candidate would have to beg for attention including Obama!

  • Anonymous

    I could very easily go along with that. West has no problem standing up for what he believes and it drives people nuts. When he talks to Muslims he does it from a point of strength and as one who has put his own life on the line to protect Muslims.

  • Anonymous

    Allen West for president. Amen

  • Betty -ny girl

    Beck has finally revealed himself. He used Sarah Palin to boost ratings & remember him telling everyone, that Sarah had called him personally? He used her for his 9-28 project, and drew in all her supporters to his tv program and radio show. Now that he is out at Fox, he is letting things slip. (on purpose) he is calculated enough to know that he just put down “Sarah Palin” as a candidate for President. (agrees with BillO, now) He is definitely making way for Jon Huntsman, Jr (a RINO) and he may even be doing his campaign work for him. Fellow Mormon and the son of his “new” best friend. How convenient. Pile it on Beck, because you have now pissed off all the TeaParty members, who love Sarah Palin, and have watched her be attacked from right and left and now, supposed friends. Doesn’t get better than that huh Mr Beck? Not a true friend to Sarah, and I no longer will watch your program or listen to you on the radio, and forget your book sales.. and other promotions. Self destruction is not an easy task.

    • Anonymous

      Troll!!!! You didn’t understand GB at all – he said he didn’t think SP was really interested in running – BUT that she is more focused on doing what she did in the 2010 election – Shape The Debate and the direction and movement of the campaign.

      • And she is GOOD at that. If you had to name the one individual who was most responsible for the conservative nationwide landslide on November 2, it was Sarah Palin. She IS the face of the Tea Party. I think she is “kingmaker” extraordinaire!

        • I firmly believe that whoever Sarah Palin endorses for President will be our next President.

  • Betty -ny girl

    Beck has finally revealed himself. He used Sarah Palin to boost ratings & remember him telling everyone, that Sarah had called him personally? He used her for his 9-28 project, and drew in all her supporters to his tv program and radio show. Now that he is out at Fox, he is letting things slip. (on purpose) he is calculated enough to know that he just put down “Sarah Palin” as a candidate for President. (agrees with BillO, now) He is definitely making way for Jon Huntsman, Jr (a RINO) and he may even be doing his campaign work for him. Fellow Mormon and the son of his “new” best friend. How convenient. Pile it on Beck, because you have now pissed off all the TeaParty members, who love Sarah Palin, and have watched her be attacked from right and left and now, supposed friends. Doesn’t get better than that huh Mr Beck? Not a true friend to Sarah, and I no longer will watch your program or listen to you on the radio, and forget your book sales.. and other promotions. Self destruction is not an easy task.

  • Jan B.

    What awesome news!!!!! GO WEST!!!

    • Arls

      I agree!! I don’t see anyone but West as the GOP candidate in 2012 that can defeat Obama!!!

    • Arls

      I agree!! I don’t see anyone but West as the GOP candidate in 2012 that can defeat Obama!!!

  • Shirey Brinker

    That is wonderful Glenn, I want him to run for Presidentin 2012. He is a wonderful person and I think he is the only one that might beat Obama.

    Shirely Brinker

  • Anonymous

    Beck supports Allen West, who has been in congress for what? A couple of months and somehow he has deep policy knowledge or something and he’s not running for POTUS, but we should draft him anyway. And MB has deep policy knowledge also? My impression has been that Beck has a problem with Palin for some reason and these comments just support that.

    • Anonymous

      I dont know Becks problem with Sarah Palin, but he is not be trusted, Beck is all for Beck. Sarah Palin is the best qualified Conservative to turn this country around.

  • Anonymous

    Geez Glenn you’re starting to get more faces than the Seth Thomas clock company. I like Alan West but we,ve been saddled with i experienced people before. Besides, I don.t really think you Libertarians have much to offer!

    • Anonymous

      “I don’t really think you Libertarians have much to offer!”

      Reagan would have disagreed with you,

      “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”
      Reason Magazine July 1975 issue

      • K~Bob

        Ayn Rand was very influential in Reagan’s first Administration. Unfortunately the “Randians” got pushed aside in the early going of the overall eight years.

        Imagine the prosperity today if they hadn’t been shunted aside.

  • Anonymous

    Am I the only one who is seriously put off by the cults of personality building around all of these people? For all the valid criticism of the Obama cultists, it seems Conservatives have a habit of similar behavior.

    Stop putting all of your hopes on following any single person. There is no such thing as magic or ubermenchen, so stop trying to find your superhero authoritarian to save you from what this government has wraught. Lead yourself and focus on how to fix your own life because that’s the only real effect you can have.

    • K~Bob

      The “cult of personality” charge is just silly. People like who they like for the reasons they state. You either accept their reasons, or make up your own.

      You can make up your own all you want, but that isn’t an argument, it’s a fantasy.

      • Kbbookgirl

        I agree k bob! But no one should forget that all of these people we’ve been talking about are imperfect human beings. Some of them are principled and others are not. We decide who to support from there. Im curious Dan does that cult theory of yours include Ron Paul?

        • Anonymous

          Yup, I’ve been wary of the Ron Paul people ever since they followed Hannity through a street screaming at him after Fox News kept Paul out of one of the debates.

          I don’t like Hannity, but that was a tad crazy.

  • HankS_FtLauderdale

    It’s actually a good piece about the importance of honor and values – check it out at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp_c6VnY97U&feature=player_embedded

    I agree with Glenn Beck on one important point: the next President will preside over EITHER the end or a new beginning of our Country. Allen West goes further, stating that we could witness the end of Western civilization if the present trends continue.
    Allen West understands you don’t compromise core values. He is a man of honor and courage. His positions are clear, and he doesn’t give a hoot about poll numbers. The world is discovering what many of us already know: Allen West is the real deal.

    HankS_FtLauderdale

    • JoMama

      Hank …
      Now … if you could only convince your fellow constituents to release him to run, ALL of America would owe you a BIG one!!  Matter of fact … I can guarantee you’d always have a warm welcome and some home-made Eye-talian Lasagne waiting for ya if you ever make it to Tennessee!!!

      GO WEST, AMERCA!!! 

  • Anonymous

    Beck isn’t kidding anybody. He would love a Romney or Huntsman in the WH. Kind of funny he talks up West on the same day Romney jumps in the race.

    • Mediaccess

      Me too!

  • K~Bob

    West would get my vote. He’s totally qualified. But Beck is just not in control of his mouth. If West doesn’t run (and I doubt he could see doing it – he’d need to start up a committee and begin raising cash in a major, emergency-sized hurry, and he’s already committed to represent his district), Palin is still going to be a major, policy-driving force. She’s had Obama’s entire Administration playing defense to her statements on policy for two years now.

    • Anonymous

      “…Palin is still going to be a major, policy-driving force…”

      GB said he didn’t think SP is really interested in running – BUT (he thought) that she is more focused on doing what she did in the 2010 election – Shaping The Debate plus the direction and movement of the campaign.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know if she is going to run or not and I doubt Beck does either…he is just using his influence in conservative circles to push the establishment Republican party line…Until Palin announces one way or the other, my vote goes to Sarah Palin!

  • Beck is wrong. Sarah Palin is going to run and she is going to win. She is the only candidate who can really save America.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t agree more with Beck on his picks here. Especially Treasury 😉

  • eyewatcher

    Allen West is a good man……good picks, GB……and u go, Glenn, get the hell out of Fox…u are better than Bill anyway……

  • Anonymous

    Beck is a traitor. He used Sarah for his ratings and his DC show. No wonder Savage calls him a Hemroid!

    • Anonymous

      WOW – I wonder if this is the attitude SP would/will take when/if she hears about this…hmmm

      I think it will be 180 from the kind of vitriol I have read by her ‘supporters’ on this thread. AND I’m sure when she hears, she will be reading what everyone of you have written.

      • Not all of Sarahs supporters think this way Marti17. I will always honor Beck for bringing the light of truth back to America and I believe Becks support for Sarah to be strong. I stand with Sarah.

        • Anonymous

          Great – I was hoping for such responses. Thanks!

      • Anonymous

        Good, I hope she is reading…she will the know that her army has her back, even when another person we admire tries to take her down. Beck could easily have supported a West/Bachmann ticket without ever mentioning Palin’s name…instead he decided to try to influence his listeners against her…he failed!

  • Glenn Beck rambles and Sarah Palin drives traffic. Look at the numbers on this little statement by Beck. Let them ALL RUN. Isn’t that what we’re all about? Don’t exclude anyone. Who wants to wonder ‘What if ____ _____ had been in the running?’ No October surprises. What don’t we know about Palin? What don’t we know about West? They are both great. West has said about himself that he will run when the Good Lord makes it clear. Let him choose for crying out loud. Calm down everyone. One Conservative President at a time. Just don’t fall for the DC establishment President any more. We’ve come too far to lose this battle now. Patience. Principles. Peace.

  • Some of you folks might be interested in my piece about Allen West’s unique combination of the qualities we need in our next President in this time of crisis:
    http://westforwestwing2012.com/about/
    as well as this piece explaining why I started a blog to promote a Draft West movement:
    http://westforwestwing2012.com/why-this-blog/

  • Some of you folks might be interested in my piece about Allen West’s unique combination of the qualities we need in our next President in this time of crisis:
    http://westforwestwing2012.com/about/
    as well as this piece explaining why I started a blog to promote a Draft West movement:
    http://westforwestwing2012.com/why-this-blog/

  • Anonymous

    “All War is Deception”

    Tzu- The Art of War

  • Anonymous

    West is fanatastic.
    I love Michelle but she seems confused this week.
    Also love Sarah but she may have peaked.
    Don’t forget Herman Cain, Christie, and Ryan.

  • Anonymous

    Now that’s just dumb. We GOP must have a death wish.

  • Anonymous

    Why now Glenn???

  • Anonymous

    If Palin does not run, Bachmann may have a shot at pulling Palin’s army over to her side, but if Palin runs and Bachmann wins the Republican nomination because people like Beck and establishment Republicans come out against Palin, Palin’s army will stay home in 2012…and not even Palin herself will be able to convince us to do otherwise. I’m not sure what Beck thought he was doing, but he could easily have endorsed Bachmann without trashing Palin. I thought ya had more class than that Beck!

    • Rich

      So I finally listened to this clip because of all the anti-beck stuff today and this is the one clip that people are claiming that Beck just “used” Palin and is now throwing her under the bus.

      What the crap are you people listenting to here? This is “trashing” Palin? Some of you people are so enamored with the cult of personality that if anyone says anything about your favorite person other than EXACTLY what you want to hear, you construe that as “trashing” or “throwing under the bus.” Good lord people, attempt to listen w/o bias.

      • Anonymous

        Rich, I listened. And I follow both Beck and Palin closely. Palin has said nothing but good things about Beck and she stepped in to help draw a bigger crowd to his DC thing, which I attended BTW…her introduction got the biggest roar from the crowd, even larger than Beck. Many were there just to hear her speak. So when I heard Beck say following the Rove talking points and declare that HE thought she had not done what was necessary to be considered a serious candidate and that Bachmann of all people was his candidate for VP, I do indeed feel like Beck was trashing Palin. After all, it is possible that Bachmann would not even have retained her seat if it were not for Palin’s endorsement!
        Beck knew exactly the effect his fairly mild words would have on his audience and his intention was indeed to help establishment Republican’s keep Palin off the ballot…I haven’t watched his show since.

  • Shirey Brinker

    I love Allen West and have sent him 2 letter and 2 e-mails asking him to run for President in 2012. He always say it is not up to him it is up to God, his family, and his constituents. Glenn Maybe you could run a poll asking the 22nd district of Florida if they would like Allen West to Run for President in 2012. I belong to 3 sites that want Allen West to run for President. They are Go Allen West, Draft Allen West for President in 2012, and Recruit Allen West for President in 2012. I hope you take the DRAFT ALLEN WEST nationalm Glenn. We need him desperately in 2013.

  • Shirey Brinker

    I love Allen West for President and Michele Bachmann for Vice President. I have sent Allen West two letters and two e-mails asking him to run for President in 2012. I received a handwritten post card from him but he said he was glad that I thought he had the qualiaties to be President but it was not up to him, it is up to God, my family and my constitutents. Maybe Glenn you could design a poll for the 22nd district of Florida asking if they would like Allen West to run for President in 2012.

  • PatriotNan

    Allan West is the best, and maybe one of the only true Conservatives in Washington. He along with Michelle Bachmann would be a great, unstoppable team who would do everything to save our country both at home and abroad. He tells it like it is, is courageous and passionate and really understands the Islamic issue. He is one of the only ones who tells it like it is – Islam is at war against us and we must fight like our lives and our survival depend upon it in order to win, because they do…

  • Slane52

    You need to put Allan West’s name on that poll

  • Tickedofftoo

     “If you only want to listen to the Sarah Palin portion, then jump to the 6 min mark.”
    _______________________________________________________________________

    OK, but what if you only want to listen to the Allen West portion?

  • Tickedofftoo

     “If you only want to listen to the Sarah Palin portion, then jump to the 6 min mark.”
    _______________________________________________________________________

    OK, but what if you only want to listen to the Allen West portion?

  • JoMama

    There IS a movement to draft Allen West to run!  

    One of the reasons Trump caught soooo much attention was that he was NOT a Washington Insider!

    And neither is Allen West.  We DON’T need any more spineless, politically correct politicians in the White House OR the Congress!  We need a STATESMAN … a man of Knowledge, Courage, Conviction and American PRIDE.  Allen West is that man!  And a running mate like Michele Bachmann would be AWESOME!!!

    If you agree with Glenn, would like to know more about Allen West, or would like to become part of the movement to draft him, visit this site:

    http://allenwest2012.ning.com

    GO WEST, AMERICA!!!

  • Jetman1979

    My problem about Palin is that she ran with Mc Cain and if you don’t know the real Mc Cain you need to research the senate bill he wrote number 3081.
    Sounds like if he had it his way we’d all be in a camp, FEMA camp that is.
    Now, if Palin didn’t know this about Mc Cain she dang well should have before budding up with him for office cause it left a mark on her for me.

    As for Allen West everything I have read or videos that I’ve watched leaves me in awe of his wisdom. I believe this man is whom we need as president and I’m sure he will know whom he wants to run with him as VP.

  • CtRocker43

    I surely wish Glenn would release his radio cohost Pat and fly solo. I know it is one of Glenns long time friends but he is such a distraction to serious radio. He tries to bring a lighter side but isnt funny at all. And his comments are just dumb.