Ben Shapiro on thug tactics of the left in trotting out Christian pastor to push gun control agenda

I think Shaprio nails this one and it’s true almost in every argument. If you oppose the Democrat way of doing something, they question your motives. And in the case of gun control, they act as though you want people to die at the hands of mass murderers – or at least you don’t care if people die because you love your guns. And they make you sound like a bad person. We see it from Piers Morgan all the time.

It’s the demonization of the Right to destroy the Right to so they get their way.

If you oppose abortion then you must want to see girls in back alleys with coat-hangers hanging out their vaginas. If you want shrink entitlements back to the point where only the needy qualify for them, you hate children and want to see them die of malnutrition. If you want to limit regulations on the environment, then obviously you want people to drink dirty water and breath dirty air. And let’s not forgot the one that is trotted out the most: If you disagree with Obama, you’re a racist.

And the list goes on and on and on.

We can’t have honest debate in this country anymore and this trotting out of a Christian pastor to try and shame people into giving up their second amendment rights is just another example of the Left trying to force it’s agenda on the American people by arguing emotion instead of arguing facts. The Left never has facts on their side. All they have is hyperbole.

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  • Beware of false prophets.

    • And standing behind this clueless, witless, laughably ignorant old useful idiot fraud are two armed police…as per usual. No, really. Colonel Neville.

  • WI4Walker

    Wonder what his view is on killing kids through abortion. The abortion vacuum is far more dangerous to kids than a legal gun owner.

  • I can’t add much to what you just said here Scoop. Very well said. Thank you.

  • Rocco11

    Yes, Feinstein is Jewish, why not a Rabbi?

    • Joe

      Too much testosterone

      Too many transgenders in her district

      Afraid of getting snipped!

  • las1

    Cross lobby! Really!

    It’s funny … they have exactly the same look as our looney faux Christian culture warriors have here in Canada. It’s just got to be genetic. Why is it that all the religious leftist redistributors have a certain look to them… pasty, skinny, bespectacled. If I had that eternally starved and gullible look, I just may as well be a greedy redsitributionist as well.

    • Yes, they do..much like any row of lumpen middle-aged socialist leftist females will sport grey Prince Valiant bobs, rummage sale gardening clothes, comfortable dork shoes, no make up and at least one meaningless cliche badge. No, really. Colonel Neville.

    • StrangernFiction

      Fitting that a ghoul would look like a ghoul.

  • Joe

    democRATS are becoming more like Muslims everyday

    They do whatever is convenient at the time

    ALSO If you didn’t see this

    Gov’t. Officials exempt from Gun laws

    • Why are you always sixth Joe?


      • Sober_Thinking

        Lol! 🙂

      • Joe

        Just to keep you guessing !

        Actually – I hadn’t noticed

        Are you really counting ? –

        If so I’ll forward the name of a shrink to you


      • Orangeone

        Me thinks Joe has been snoozing today, he wasn’t first on the Mark Levin thread either :<)

    • Stehekin912

      Aren’t Government Officials also exempt from The Abominable Carrot Act? Aren’t they special? (think of “the Church Lady).

  • 4Hoppes2

    From The Acton Institute dated 1-23-2013 by Elise Hilton on the subject of gun control and mental health.(“…sin lies in wait at the door: its urge is for you, yet you can rule over it,” God told Cain. That same offer stands before America as well. However, just as with Cain, we must rule over the darkness in our hearts. A safer, healthier, more peaceful society is not borne of misguided legislation, but deep respect for God’s greatest creation: human life”.) The capacity for evil is not measured in magazine capacity, the appearance of the firearm, the size of the bullet or even the instrument evil is used to manifest itself.

  • Nukeman60

    …but I can no longer justify a society that allows people other than military and police to own weapons like these… – pastor

    Did he just reject the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment? I’m assuming he’s giving up his citizenship next. Let us know where you’re moving to. I will be curious to know.

    Shapiro is right. He can do whatever he wants, but by forcing me to abide by what he wants is suppression of my freedom of religion, as long as he wants to call it a religious issue.

    And speaking of good old Piers Morgan, I just read an article this morning from a British journalist who puts Piers in the proper perspective and echos what I’ve been saying about him all along – that he’s not really a liberal and doesn’t care one iota about gun control.

    But while he may walk the liberal walk and talk the liberal talk, Morgan is no liberal; he has no discernible political philosophy. He’s an unprincipled, relentlessly self-promoting opportunist, a disgraced tabloid hack who doesn’t care whom he offends or how foolish he looks as long as he’s the center of attention. Morgan’s stance on a given subject is determined not by ideology, but by what will generate the most controversy, get him the most coverage, and strengthen his hand when negotiating his next book or TV deal. His effort’s been given added urgency of late by the need to boost the paltry ratings of his CNN show.” – Mike McNally

    When we give these people credence by debating on their terms, it only boosts their ratings in the eyes of the low-information voter. We need to come at them with all our guns blazing (an analogy, for all you hot-headed liberals) and do it on our terms, not theirs.

    • Orangeone

      Wonder if this guy’s followers received ObamaCare waivers in return

  • Sober_Thinking

    What you wrote Scoop… couldn’t be more true.

    The left is empty… and so are their arguments and causes. They have no facts or truth on their side… as a result, they have to lie and smear… it’s the only way they can win: lie, cheat, steal, corrupt, distort…

    What’s sad is that the damned media perpetuates this and no longer practices journalistic objectivity or integrity. We used to rely on them to catch the bad guys… but now, THEY are the bad guys.

    The other side of the coin is the lemming/moocher/low-information voter (dumbmasses) who are too lazy or distracted to educate themselves or dig below the spin and lies. They’re often too busy watching American Idol or Jerry Springer. Ignorance is bliss… I get that… I miss those days – I was MUCH happier then. But slavery is hell and there will come a time when they will no longer have the freedom to watch Jerry or AI.

    If America doesn’t wake the heck up and call these liars and monsters out… then we will lose our liberty. And I’d so love to be a fly on the wall when they all realize just what a monster and a joke Obama really is… just how wrong they were to buy into his crap.

    God bless Ben Shapiro and thank you Scoop… you have been our alarm clock and thankfully, we won’t turn you off or tune you out.

  • Sober_Thinking

    ROFL! Look at all the pawns and props they use whenever they lie to America… this sickens me! Military, police, the clergy, medical professionals… what hypocritical BS. Notice the two worms that are always slithering in the back: little dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer. Crap weasels.

  • All the preacher boy had to do is say, NO.

  • williamm

    8:11a.m. EST January 9, 2013

    WASHINGTON — The Washington National Cathedral, where the U.S. gathers to mourn tragedies and celebrate new presidents, will soon begin performing same-sex marriages.

    The Very Rev. Gary Hall, the cathedral’s dean, said performing same-sex marriages is an opportunity to break down barriers and build a more inclusive community “that reflects the diversity of God’s world.”

  • crakpot

    If you don’t fear the Carbon god you’re like a Holocaust denier.

  • stage9

    There is absolutely NO moral basis for banning guns. ZERO! This “minister” is simply a marxist wolf masquerading in sheep’s clothing.

  • As people of faith, we have a moral obligation to stand with and for the victims of gun violence and to work to end it.

    False. We have a moral obligation to stand with and for the victims of all violence.

    It is a well-known and well-documented fact that disarming innocent, law-abiding citizen does not keep them safe from violence, while respecting the right of citizens to arm themselves in order to defend themselves and their property does, in fact, prevent violence.

    So, I can play this game. This ‘clergyman’ must actually want more people to become victims of violence. He has, therefore, betraying his moral obligation to stand with and for the victims of violence. Such a desire is hardly representative of God’s love. It is in fact, dangerous and downright hateful.

    He probably marries men to each other at the local Planned Parenthood slaughterhouse.

  • Rob_Bryant

    Tyranny in the name of Jesus? And this guy is supposedly a “national icon”? Eh?

  • stage9

    Indeed, the best testimony to the power of an armed populace is the vigor with which the Warsaw Pact dictatorships enforced gun control. When the Communists took over Bulgaria on September 9, 1944, they immediately confiscated every weapon in private possession.

    In East Germany, private gun ownership was outlawed, although citizens were allowed to rent hunting guns for one-day periods.

    Immediately after World War II, Hungary was governed by a coalition of democrats and Communists. Preparing the way for a total Communist takeover Laszlo Rajk, the Communist Minister of the Interior, ordered the dissolution of all pistol and hunting clubs, as well as of other organizations which might prove a threat to government power. Rajk claimed he acted “in order to more efficiently protect the democratic system of the state.”

    Poland, on the other hand, did allow limited ownership of registered target guns with a license from the so-called “Citizen’s Militia.” In December 1981, Poland’s dictator, General Jaruzelski, decided that Solidarnosc had gone too far. He declared martial law, arrested all the pro-democracy leaders he could find, and ordered all firearms and ammunition be turned over to the government.

    Nowhere was gun control fiercer than in Rumania. The dictatorship of Nicolai Ceausescu used registration lists to confiscate all firearms in private hands. (emphasis mine) — David Kopel, Firearms Possession by ‘Non-State Actors’: The Question of Sovereignty, Independence Institute; Denver University – Sturm College of Law,

  • Jaels_Song

    Jesus before going to the cross speaking to his disciples:

    Luk 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.

    Christ certainly did teach self-defense. It was one of his last messages he left his disciples. In his absence, they would have need of a sword for the preservation of their lives as they traveled those Silk Roads and came into contact with people who wanted to rob and harm them.

    This old liberal heretic minister doesn’t impress nor influence me.

  • stage9
  • RonPaulSupporter2

    With all due respect to the pastor, criminals won’t obey laws, won’t listen to politicians, and sadly, they won’t listen to God or the voice of God thru the pastor.

    • Rshill7

      The ‘pastor’ deserves no respect. None at all.

  • sjmom

    What happened to the separation of Church and State????????????????

    Hypocrisy at its finest.

    • Orangeone


  • Ben Shapiro truly is a budding superstar.

  • SEHaase

    “Do not be deceived”

  • 3seven77

    New Questions About the Role of Religion in the Gun Control Debate”

    There IS no “role” for religion (of any kind) in the gun control debate. Period.

  • v.l.

    It’s not either or. One can be a member of cross lobby as well as the gun lobby. That way he can kick the anti-US Constitution lobby’s butt.

  • This “Christian” pastor merely mouthed the words the Dems penned for him. Word for word what they parrot. He embarrasses himself.

  • If Christian pastors can promote policy now, then that means Democrats agree that there shouldn’t be any abortion or gay marriage…

    Oh, wait… Democrats don’t agree… So they’re just using Christian pastors as props and don’t give a damn about what is Christian or what is moral…

    Nor do they give a damn about the First Amendment’s Separation of Church and State. Just another thing to throw out when it’s convenient. The truth is, a pastor using his twisted view of religion as an argument to ban guns is irrelevant, because even if we accept his view of religion as being the right one, his religious view wouldn’t play any rational view in influencing politics, as many people are not Christian and are protected from having Jesus’s alleged anti-gun positions forced upon them by the government.

  • LibLoather

    Heaven is a place where liberals aren’t admitted.
    For eternity.
    Thank you, Lord.

  • Jules

    I’m thankful for Ben Shapiro. He is an honest and true American. He speaks for so many. I hope he continues to be the voice of patriotic Americans across the country who value what our forefathers fought and died for. God Bless you, Ben.

  • Orangeone

    Whoever this old man is, he needs to be quickly shipped to the Middle East where he can enjoy gun bans. I wonder if this old man has been investigated for potential issues with children….he creeps me out.

    • sjmom

      He’s also allowing same sex marriage at the Cathedral. He’s a hypocrite like the rest.

      • Orangeone

        Hummmmm, looks to me like he might have been the 1st customer

  • Godisright

    This pastor is just a whimp and another of the Left’s yes men. Speak for yourself you placating, self absorbed, can’t- we- all- just- get- along, utopian ideologue.

    This man makes the point for high capacity rifles. If there are as many people as he claims siding with this tyrannical government …..

  • StrangernFiction

    Using God to take guns so that they can then use guns to take religion.

    If these Godless cretins are willing to use God in this manner, you think they won’t use force to take religion, etc? In some ways they already are. And yet we are told by the wizards of smart that they mean well.

    Good vs. Evil.

  • hbnolikeee

    But he’s fine with porking young boys.

  • John Hazelwood

    I have sent a letter to this man who says he is a pastor. I told him I would not refer to him as a pastor as he seems to have forsaken his religion. I reminded him that the Declaration of Independence states that God himself gave us our rights. It wasn’t Barrack Hussein Obama. It wasn’t Diane Feinstein and it most certainly wasn’t Joe Biden.
    So yes Laurel, you’re correct. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and unto God that is of God. It seems very hypocritical to me that this individual, under the guise of being a pastor, is counseling against God, is counseling others to follow the falsehood of man. A false prophet.
    I plan to write to the Bishop of the National Cathedral and to the governing board in New York. Perhaps others might want to consider doing the same.

  • Jay

    This “Christian” priest thinks they won’t throw him under the bus when they take over. Well, maybe they won’t if he keeps his lips firmly planted in the right place. I wonder how he interprets Luke, when Jesus tells his disciples, “… and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

  • JungleCogs

    I believe it is the, “Bill of Rights” not the, “Bill of Feelings”.

  • A liberal is a liberal – backward collar or not. Both believe the lie and proclaim a false gospel.