Boy Scouts under attack again over policy of not granting membership to openly gay individuals

People seem to often wonder why Christians fight so hard against the gay agenda in America and this potential lawsuit is exactly why. It isn’t enough that openly gay individuals can live their lives with someone of the same sex, it’s that they have to force every traditional institution and every group to not only accept it, but to be penalized if they don’t. They are no more tolerant of other views than they accuse their opponents of being. And this is a classic example.

In the year 2000, the Supreme Court upheld the policy of the Boy Scouts of America to decide who joins their ranks in asserting that they have the right to bar openly gay troop leaders based on their constitutional right of freedom of association and free speech under the First Amendment. But now it is under attack again by a Boy Scout who was raised by 2 lesbian parents. It hasn’t reached the legal arena yet but that’s where it’s headed:

CNS NEWS – The Boy Scouts of America’s (BSA) long-standing policy that bans gay Scouts and troop leaders from participating in the organization is once again being challenged — this time, from within.

The Los Angeles Times has reported the group Scouts for Equality, a band of Eagle Scouts, is now challenging the “values-based” organization.

The group’s co-founder, Zach Wahls, is an Eagle Scout from Iowa and was raised by two lesbian mothers.

He first gained recognition after making an emotional speech before Iowa state lawmakers regarding same-sex marriage in January 2011.

After going viral, the twenty year old’s testimony became one of the top political videos of 2011 and opened the door for TV appearances with Ellen DeGeneres and David Letterman.

Wahls decided to petition the Scout ban after an Ohio mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, was allegedly fired as a volunteer Cub Scout den leader in April because she was a lesbian.

He collected nearly 300,000 signatures after posting the petition on and received an anonymous resolution proposal against the ban. The resolution would allow local troops to choose whether to admit gay troop leaders and Scouts.

A subcommittee will review and analyze the proposal and the BSA national executive board will vote next May.

Before the formation of Scouts for Equality, Boy Scout officials had already announced that they would examine a resolution which would reverse the policy.

Scout leaders, however, say they don’t expect the resolution to pass. If struck down, Wahl, Tyrrell and other supporters say they are prepared to take legal action.

In a telephone interview with the Associated Press, Wahls said he and his allies planned a campaign to mobilize opposition to the gay-exclusion policy from within Scout ranks, with the goal of building pressure for the resolution to be approved.

“Up to the day they end this policy, they’ll be saying they have no plans to do so,” Wahls said. “But there’s no question it’s costing the Boy Scouts in terms of membership and public support.”

The Boy Scouts of America responded on their website to recent articles by saying they have no plans of reversing the policy.

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  • Rshill7

    We are supposed to be able to enjoy both freedom of expression AND freedom of association in this country! In fact, we are guaranteed it by our Constitution.

    Sorry Charlie, only straight boys get to be Boyscouts. Go join the Girlscouts.

    • marketcomp


    • Is_Sense_Common

      Oh snap Rshill, don’t give em any ideas!

    • RobertMahoney

      Let’s understand liberal logic..

      Gay’s in the Catholic Church = BAD

      Gay’s in the Boy Scouts = GOOD

  • 911Infidel

    Gee what was part of the Boy Scout motto about “keeping oneself morally straight”? The Boy Scouts last I checked were a private organization founded on Godly principals and traditional American patriotism. If someone has a problem with that, then they can go form their own organization and do what they want.

    • And the boy scout law where it says a boy scout is chaste.

      • 911Infidel

        They managed to infiltrate and destroy the founding values of the YMCA and the Girl Scouts. Looks like the BSA is going to stand tall. Good. That’s as it should be.

    • You’re dealing with people that don’t consider gay sex and relationships immoral, at all, so your argument’s going nowhere with people like that. What’s abnormal, to them, is our resistance to just sitting back, accepting them, and taking in all they stand for and represent.

      • 911Infidel

        Not interested in bothering with them. In every ballot initiative, even in blue states, they’ve lost. The only way they can win is by taking their case to some oligarch and overthrowing the will of the majority. Its the majority than I’m interested in, not the tiny minority of extremists that the LGBT community represents.

        • steprock

          I was just discussing that with my wife yesterday, that time and again gay “marriage” is struck down by the people and only an end run by the Legislative process can make it stick. Even if this means overthrowing the people’s wishes.

  • The Mormon Church is the largest supporter of Boy Scouts in the Country. If this happens they will not get support from the church anymore.

    • Wouldn’t surprise me. Look how they’ve invented the “war on women” narrative. It was orchestrated at least a year ago and was confirmed when a question about contraceptives came up during one of the debates. It went nowhere, so they forced the issue by forcing religious institutions to provide contraception as part of insurance policies.

      These kinds of tactics are going to get worse as we get closer to November. Obama is waging a war on the Christian Church.

      • Rshill7

        He’s gonna lose that war…and the election. Take it to the bank and deposit it.

      • Patriot077

        … and his State Department has removed the “Religious Freedom” category from their reports on the Middle East. For the first time Ever. Unbelievable.

    • Brian you might be right if Obama gets ahold of this. Romney may as well get used to the idea of Obama bringing the Mormon Church to the forefront, because he will.

      Also, Romney was the first Governor of the United States to install gay marriage in a state. So that will come up as well.

      • marketcomp

        Hey, but if Romney starts trying to install anything like that for the rest of the country you will see a grass roots effort like you have never seen before. I believe most of us know that this is abhorant and not synomous with natural law. Any laws developed and created by man sould coincide with natural law and I think we can all agree that homosexality does not meet the test.

        • Galatiansch2vs20

          In the documentary IndoctriNation, you can get a glimpse of just how pervasive the homosexual agenda is- they are brainwashing the children in public schools and it looks like it may be a matter of time before this kind of sexual immorality is for the most part fully accepted in America.

          • marketcomp

            I know that’s the preception but I don’t believe that its as accepted as it appears. Still most States reject the homosexual agenda and so what if they can get married in a few States. If you notice the States where gay marriage is law are the States that are losing population, like California, New York, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, New Hampshire Maryland, all losing population to States like Texas, Florida, North Carolina and others.

            • Patriot077

              And even in Washington State, the People are taking our whacked out Governor to task on her arbitrary decision to overturn the will of the voters.

              • marketcomp

                Fight On, Patriot077!

              • Galatiansch2vs20

                For now, this is the case, but please see my response to marketcomp. It appears to be a matter of time as they are succeeding in brainwashing kids in public schools about homosexuality. As the older generation dies out and the younger rises up, it looks to definitely headed the wrong way.

                • Patriot077

                  My comment was directed more to whether or not the issue was “timed” by/for Obama.

                  I agree that the indoctrination in the schools is a battle we will need to fight on many issues for many years to come.

            • Galatiansch2vs20

              Think of what they did in Natzi Germany or in communist countries- they brainwashed the children. It’s happening when it comes to homosexuality in public schools today- saw proof in the IndoctriNation documentary.

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      I doubt Obama has to do with this one. The Boy Scouts have been fighting the homosexual agenda against them since a number of years ago.

    • Patriot077

      This issue has been bubbling up from time to time for at least the past 10 years. I agree with Vorlath’s comment above. Everyone knows that the Boy Scouts of America is founded on religious principles and no person is forced to join that organization if they cannot accept them. But tolerance is a one way street with this very vocal minority.

  • Well, sorry you’re all messed up in the head, but that’s no reason to let gays in the Scouts. I’m a Scout, and to this day, do not approve. They completely ignore the fact that it’s a Christian based organization, and what they’re doing is tantamount to a blatant, all out violation of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution in denying the Boy Scouts of America freedom to practice their religion, free of government obstruction and interference. When Christians are able to force their way into gay organizations and impose their ideas, I still won’t consider letting a homo into the Scouts. The lack of morals is precisely what led the Girl Scouts to be the slime pit that it is, now. Maybe if they’d’ve had strong leadership like the boys, instead of just selling cookies, they’d be an organization known to produce people of good moral standing and Christian character. As it stands, not so much.

    • Rightstuff1

      Great message. I took my daughters out of girl scouts when I got hold of their summer camp program. Complete BS about “girl empowerment” etc etc and now a friend of mine tells me she encountered leaflets for Planned Parenthood at a GS meeting. What a mess that once great organization has become. So I do hope that the BSA do not walk the same path as the GS otherwise it will lose scouts in droves and leaders too. This is a purely private organization, no one makes you want to participate. If you don’t like the rules then don’t join and quit whining….go open your own Gay Boy Scouts of America and see how well you do!!! I promise I will not be taking my two boys and forcing you to change your rules !!!

      • marketcomp

        Right on, Rightstuff1! We need to fightback and not let homosexuals intimidate us! We are responsible for our children and part of that is deciding whether to allow them to be apart of a group whose main focus is beastiality, which is really what the core issue. Christians absolutely have to fight back.

  • wodiej

    While I think far too many people are judgmental and even hateful about gay people, I don’t think any organization should be forced to admit anyone that they don’t want to for any reason. I don’t understand why someone needs to be openly gay as a boy scout anyway. You’re not there to date.

    • Patriot077

      I’m not hateful of gays but I do object to the forceful acceptance a small number is demanding. I have friends who are gay and they could care less about most of the gay issues. Mostly they just want to be treated with respect.

      I’m not hateful of heterosexuals but intensely dislike casual displays of extremely intimate public behavior. In other words, I’d like everyone to practice some discipline and keep their business private. I am so sick to death of sexuality being the most. important. topic. in. the. world.

      I must be getting old cause I can think of a heck of a lot of things that are more important to me. Like saving our country. 🙂

  • Keep fags and lezbos away from Boy & Girl Scouts……period. Fags & lezbos need to be pushed back into the closet, where they belong. They are misfits in the true sense of the word. Not to be feared or hated or persecuted but they are “misfits”. They are by definition “abnormal”.

    • Bucketheadbaptist

      Speaking the truth in love… Not your strong point, is it?

      • marketcomp

        The truth is that these people are really sick whether they are the log cabin republicans or the liberal democrats. If people really saw and know what these people do it will make you sick to your stomach. I don’t think republicans who support gay marriage or homosexuals really know what it is that they do which defines who they are. This is a disgrace to the human race.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          I know because I’ve worked in homosexual ministry. I know there are a lot of people who’ve been destroyed by their lifestyle. I know a lot… if not most have been physically, mentally, and sexually abused in their formative years.

          Most have not had the luxury of a Father figure in their lives..

          Most do not know that the Jesus’ mission statement consisted of: Binding up the Broken-hearted… and setting free the captive.

          The attitude of people IN the church towards individuals that are homosexual has been deplorable. Rather than offering them the one thing they lack… a loving Father… The church has consistently given them the back of the hand.

          You mistake the activists for the sum total of the community. Individually… there is a lot of pain they deal with … and Christian witnesses who call them “sick” … and “faggots”, “misfits” and “abnormal”… are absolutely worthless to the cause of Christ.

          You do greatly err… “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].” Not against PEOPLE who are dead in their trespasses and sin. For YOU and I were once that way TOO.

          • marketcomp

            Ok knowing that this is the horrible part of society why would anyone try to inflict this deviant behavior on others? That’s like saying because I stole some food when I was hungry and went to jail for it now I want teach others to still so that I can be accepted and feel good about my deviant behavior. That is illogical on every front and I do understand that people need counseling or support for a number of different situations perhaps through no fault of their own. But that is no reason to institutional this type of abhorrent thinking in the schools, churches, or the boy scouts. Just from the way that you described it in your post explicitly says that this behavior is rooted in abnormal and brutal acts and I do not think that this belongs in any organization or institution. And it’s teaching kids about a part of society that they are better off not knowing about which is very different than getting counseling because of horrible things done to someone in childhood.

            • Bucketheadbaptist

              I appreciate your openness to my advice in this area…

              I’m not attempting to condone or approve the behavior… just to point out that there are tactics to employ that can be done without vitriolic language being used.
              I also wanted to point out that to reach that community there are two ways to go. Prevention… and working on an individual basis. You will not be able to directly confront the spirit of the activist movement from a position of legalism or a moralistic Gospel. You CAN approach individuals within the community with THE Gospel… but there are not many people in churches trained to do this anymore… not even Pastors.

              I’ve been a Cubmaster … and I saw soooo many young boys already struggling, and so few men willing to take up the battle to be the influence that is so desperately needed.

              Quick story… A few years ago I took my son and one other boy to Cub Scout Weekend camp at the regional Boy Scout camp. My son and his friend were up at the crack of dawn exploring the woods and lake. I told them to just make sure they were back in time for Reveille…and to be in uniform.
              Meanwhile, the Mother in the next campsite over… was fussing over her son, dressing him, putting on his kerchief and bolo. My son and his buddy showed up in time… maybe their shirts were a little untucked… a button here or there skipped… but they also had tadpoles, a lizard and some bones of a dead animal to show for their morning adventure. Now… which of these 3 boys should I worry about becoming a man?

              • marketcomp

                The situation that you describe has nothing to do with becoming a man. You, as a father, I am sure will point out to your young son and his friend that you understand their desire for discovery and feeding those natural curiosities that children have. Moreover, I am sure you will then pointed out to them that being responsible is also another part of being a scout leader and is essential in every aspect of life whether employment, school, or any number of projects that may come up in life. I would say that that is where your communication skills come in as a parent showing patience and giving advice. But, bucketheadbaptist, I think what is most interesting in your post is the fact that you saw a number of boys struggling with just growing up. This didn’t just start when you saw it. It as always been there for girls and boys and this is precisely the reason, I believe, and that homosexuals want to target these young boys at a very vulnerable time in their lives. RS posted a video of a pastor giving his testimony about being gay and then marrying a women and living a heterosexual life. He was very detailed in his struggles telling how the why and believed he was gay. I will never forget that he said that young boys are introduced to homosexuality at a very young age. They lack fathers and father figures to show them and guide them in those critical growing stages and many find that guidance in other areas such as among predators who will take advantage of their innocence, and I paraphrase but its close. So that is even more reason to keep homosexuals out of the boy scouts and as parents we MUST protect our children. I mean just looking at NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association work to abolish the age of consent for a homosexual relationship. Now this is sick and disgusting and is even more reasons for parents to keep close watch over their young.

          • marketcomp

            Ok knowing that this is the horrible part of society why would anyone try to inflict this deviant behavior on others? That’s like saying because I stole some food when I was hungry and went to jail for it now I want teach others to still so that I can be accepted and feel good about my deviant behavior. That is illogical on every front and I do understand that people need counseling or support for a number of different situations perhaps through no fault of their own. But that is no reason to institutional this type of abhorrent thinking in the schools, churches, or the boy scouts. Just from the way that you described it in your post explicitly says that this behavior is rooted in abnormal and brutal acts and I do not think that this belongs in any organization or institution. And it’s teaching kids about a part of society that they are better off not knowing about which is very different than getting counseling because of horrible things done to someone in childhood.

    • Nessus, we aim for polite discourse here and your comment is far from that. Please keep from using offensive insults when leaving comments.

      I’ve edited your comment.


  • James1754

    If you disagree with the policy of the Boy Scouts of America, find another group to be a member of.

  • Seriously, what pisses me off about gays is that they insist on invading others’ organizations. WTF can’t they make their own ‘kids of homos/homo kids scouting organizations, chock full of gay scoutmasters, to their hearts’ content, while leaving everybody else alone? They claim they want equality and peaceful coexistence, and yet their actions prove they want the polar opposite.

    • K-Bob

      Coming to a shopping center near you: A table with a sign that says

      Please buy Gay Guide cookies! We don’t know much about forestry, fishin’, or flag codes, but we can make darn good cookies.

      • 3seven77

        They could have bake-offs! Give ol’ Betty Crocker a run for her money.

        • K-Bob

          Bake-off for Great Justice!

          Hey, if they had their own organization, I might buy their cookies. I probably wouldn’t mind them having their own place to hang out and learn survival skills.

          I propose the “Avoiding Islamic Neighborhoods” merit badge, for starters.

        • K-Bob

          Bake-off for Great Justice!

          Hey, if they had their own organization, I might buy their cookies. I probably wouldn’t mind them having their own place to hang out and learn survival skills.

          I propose the “Avoiding Islamic Neighborhoods” merit badge, for starters.

  • The Boy Scouts of America responded on their website to recent articles by saying they have no plans of reversing the policy.”

    Thank God!

  • “Wahls decided to petition the Scout ban after an Ohio mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, was allegedly fired as a volunteer Cub Scout den leader in April because she was a lesbian. Wahls decided to petition the Scout ban after an Ohio mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, was allegedly fired as a volunteer Cub Scout den leader in April because she was a lesbian.”

    Um, I thought you couldn’t have a woman, any woman straight or gay, as a cub scout den leader. I thought only dads were allowed to lead the scouts. That would be like having a man be a troop leader for the girl scouts, and I don’t think a lot of parents would allow that from happening. Just shows that even though gays make roughly 2% of the population, they are going to make sure that they make life miserable for the other 98%. I beginning to wonder when the other 98% will start tuning these people out and just ignore them.

    • PicklePlants

      I am a recently “retired” Cub Scout den leader and I can tell you that there are plenty of women den leaders. In fact, the local Boy Scout troop has had a woman troop leader for many years. There is nothing wrong with this, and in fact, there are many things good about it. While it may be preferable to have male den and troop leaders, sometimes there are not enough fathers willing or able to “step-up” and take on the challenge, and believe me, it is a challenge. The sad truth is that any dad that is able and willing to rise to this challenge and dedicate the time and effort it takes to be a good leader of young men, will be rewarded 10 fold the effort they exert. I look back on my tenure as some of the most rewarding times of my life. I made great friends with other parents, and I hope I have helped young men understand the importance of being loyal, trustworthy and kind, values that are sorely lacking in many of our youth today.

      • Patriot077

        I was a cub scout den leader myself for the very reason you cited – not enough dads who were able and willing. I would not have wanted to take it on in the Boy Scouts but it was a very satisfying endeavor in my son’s early scouting experience. He went on to become an Eagle Scout and I look back on those years as some of the best, spent with the finest group of parents and most capable young men imaginable.

        And no, I wouldn’t have wanted openly gay leaders in either organization. With the rules the BSA has for two deep leadership and the scouts always having a buddy, the chances are very slim that something untoward would happen to one of them at a BSA event.

  • G_unitttt

    this is soooooooooooo predictable. MSM will act like this is a new unforeseen spontaneous development in America’s cultural “progress”

  • Most gay people are like everyone else: they just don’t want to join a organization that doesn’t want them as members. Most people (white, black, gay, straight, etc) don’t want to be hassled by this sort of nonsense. Who WANTS to force themselves into a group that rejects or hates them? Normal human being don’t.

    The real problem comes from the radical fringes of the gay and LIBERAL community that push this as an intentional attack on Christianity. These are the freaks that dance in leopard speedos during “gay pride” parades, while the homosexual next door to you is probably at home watching TV or putzing around on Facebook.

    The radical gays are the same gay people that happily ally themselves with islam, knowing full well that islam hates homosexuality more than Christians. The harshest thing that 99% of Christians might do to a gay person is pray for their soul. Muslims actively kill gay people in islamic states. BUT…they’re safe over here, and muslims hate Christianity…so they’re natural allies in what is viewed as the bigger “threat” to liberal ideology.

  • MaxineCA

    He was raised by 2 lesbian parents……… First, I wouldn’t call them parents, they are no more than 2 lesbians.

    I’ve always been a “live and let live person” as long as it doesn’t effect others, but frankly over the last few years, I’m tired of their “alternative lifestyle” being shoved in my face, down our throats and infiltrating our public schools.

    Why don’t they start their own group, “Gays Boys of America” and leave the traditional boy scouts alone. Obama would preobably recommend Arne Duncan as the chairman. I’m sure that whole Hollywood LGBT crowd that had a fundraiser for Obama last week (Ellen and her gang) would be glad to fund their group(s). Bamster sure enjoyed himself at that one.

    Disgusting what’s happening with all of the attacks on all of our traditional institutions.

    • Nukeman60

      That’s the whole problem, though, isn’t it. They don’t want to form a new ‘Gay Scouts of America’. They want to take over the institution of Boy Scouts. Just like the way they want to take over the institution of marriage, even though they can have their own status.

      Sounds an awfully lot like Islamists, who want to take over every country, every religion and every lifestyle and make it theirs, eradicating everything in its path.

      • yhxqqsn

        Very observant. I’ve heard the homo activist movement compared to islamists in the past. They have many similar characteristics. The homo activist movement is an intolerant ‘religion’.

  • Nukeman60

    So if the Supreme Court ruled against them in 2000, I really don’t think any legal action is going to do them any good now. All legal briefs would refer to the Supreme Court ruling and it would be thrown out from the get go. Who goes over the head of the Supreme Court, anyway?

    Well, other than Obama.

  • DebbyX

    All they need is a toe hold, and it’s over. The Scouts are an organization that are sticking to their guns. Good for them. I worked in scouting for many years, you’ll never meet a greater group of young men. I hope they fight it all the way. It’s an institution worth fighting for.

  • DebbyX

    All they need is a toe hold, and it’s over. The Scouts are an organization that are sticking to their guns. Good for them. I worked in scouting for many years, you’ll never meet a greater group of young men. I hope they fight it all the way. It’s an institution worth fighting for.

  • Isn’t it curious how fags are always angling to work with young boys……..curious isn’t it? As Scout Leaders, schoolteachers, counselors, coaches, etc. Very curious.

  • brendawatkins

    Why don’t these freaks of nature start their own club?

    • nyctreeman

      because forcing your own agenda on other people requires that you invade their privacy…how could they impose their ideology on other people if they minded their own business?

      • brendawatkins

        I hope the Boy Scouts fight them tooth and nail on this. If I wasn’t wanted somewhere I just wouldn’t go there. These are the kind of gay people that bothers me.

        • nyctreeman

          Don’t hold your breath, and don’t despair, it’s all part of what must be.
          Ultimately we as society are to blame for all of this, for a myriad of reasons.
          This is only one of many abominations we allow our children to be influenced by, we’ve abdicated our position of moral authority in our own society in so many ways, this one example is just the tip of the iceberg.

          • brendawatkins

            I know.. I know.. can’t we delay it awhile? 🙂

            • nyctreeman

              we could … but that would require a level of courage and assertiveness that most people in our society no longer have.

              I am however intrigued somewhat as to how the boy scouts have held this stuff off for so long, while the girl scouts has long been infiltrated by left-wing moral relativists who have been preaching sexual perversion for years now.

              I wonder what the reason is for the difference is?

              • Patriot077

                I think it might be because the BSA are inclusive of all religions but consistent in their requirement that the scouts acknowledge God (or at least a higher power) even in the troops that are not sponsored by a church, so they have not been deemed to be discriminatory. Prayers, religious tenets are part of many of the programs and outings.

                I don’t know much about the Girl Scouts but if they are partnering with Planned Parenthood I have to believe that religion isn’t a big part of their overall focus!!

  • toongoon

    Governor Scott Walker was an Eagle Scout. That is enough to send the left into a tizzy.

    If the scouts take anything away from the lessons Walker demonstrated they will have no problem.

  • bjohnson55

    Start your own scout like organization and leave the original alone. Just think you will be able to have all sorts of achievement badges just for your own special skill set. There could be the brown trout badge, the limp wrist badge, the very special talking with a lisp badge or how about the disrupting and annoying heterosexuals of society badge.

    • marketcomp

      Hey, I agree b! Why don’t they just start their own little scout organization and stop trying to force thier stupid perverse ideas and lifestyle on boys who want to do what young boys do. My child is my responsibility and I should decide whether to expose him to this lifestyle and not someone who want to use the innocense of children in during the critical development period for a lifestyle that is completely counter to my beliefs. We have allowed these liberals to infiltrate our schools and the result is Occupy wall street. People need to fight back on this indoctrination where ever and when ever possible. Homosexuals need to understand that no one cares about their little perverted and demeaning lifestyle. We just don’t want to be exposed to it and we certainly don’t want our children exposed to it. If a person is gay then they should have a gay boy scout support group if its so important to self esteem. When Black people were not allowed to join certain groups they just started their own so why can’t homosexuals do the same since they are always comparing their struggles to that of Black Americans?

  • sjmom

    The only way to change this is to change our judges and the only way to change these judges is to elect people who understand the principles upon which our nation was founded.

  • badbadlibs

    Hopefully the Boy Scouts of America will stand their ground. I love supporting them, especially in light of the fact I will not support the Girl Scouts any longer, due to their relationship with planned parenthood.

    • Is_Sense_Common

      I know! I miss my Thin Mints & Tagalongs… 🙁

      • badbadlibs

        Not to mention the chocolate covered peanut butter cookies!

        • Is_Sense_Common

          AKA, tagalongs. Those were my faves too!!

          (tummy now growling. Ugh)

          • badbadlibs

            That’s how much I was paying attention to what was on the outside of the box! I was too busy devouring what was on the inside! 🙂

  • NoToTyrants

    The left attacks…attacks…attacks, and never relents. When met with resistance they malign us as “extremists”, bigots, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, intolerant, backward, ignorant, obstructionists. They then define “moderate” to mean that we must compromise our principles, morality, values, and beliefs by adopting theirs. In order to appear “moderate” and attempt to appease the left, many people on the right fall for this rouse each and every time. But in fact, they are the radicals, they are the “extremists”, and their is nothing “moderate” about their agenda. Each time we compromise and appease them, we invite more attacks, not fewer.

    Where is this kind of unrelenting zeal from the right for liberty, limited government, and the Constitution. We need to be on offense, not continually on defense. Many on the right are afraid of the media and pop culture. They are afraid of the left’s name calling. If we oppose Obama, we are labeled racists. If we oppose “gay marriage” we are homophobes. You have heard all the slurs. The right needs to stop being afraid of the name calling and be just as relentless and zealous as the left, but in the cause of liberty.

    • Is_Sense_Common

      Preach it NoNoTyrants! Like x100!

    • marketcomp

      You are so right, NoToTyrants! I am so over these sick a** people. This is deviant behavior and unhealthy for our society anyway you look at it. I am so over the name calling because the core of this is that they want to be more like heterosexuals. So can we call them heterophobic! I mean they want to attack any organization where children are vulnerable such as the boyscouts and the schools and they want to be more like heterosexuals in their efforts to marry. But the real fact is that they cannot reproduce so can we say they are heterophobic because they really want to do what heterosexuals and have the same rights as married couples? I think so.

  • Is_Sense_Common

    Help me understand why they’re talking about their sex lives in Boy Scout meetings?! Why do gay people think they need to tell everyone they’re gay and then challenge everyone around them to act offended? This agenda seems ludicrous.

    • Sandra123456

      Why? Recruiting.

      The Boy Scouts of America is a private club. If you don’t like their rules form your own club.

      • marketcomp


      • Is_Sense_Common

        Ugh. I am sickened to realize that your “Recruiting” comment is probably spot-on.

        Between the absolute onslaught of “metro-sexual” teenage boys and the emasculating and condescending attitude towards men/dads on TV and in the mall and all over the place, Lord help our young boys learn how to grow into MEN!

    • neko_dachi

      You might be jumping to conclusions here. There is no indication that they are discussing (or would discuss) their sex lives at Boy Scout meetings.

      No adult leader, regardless of their sexual orientation, should be discussing their sex lives with the scouts in their troop.

      • Is_Sense_Common

        Then how does one indicate that he is openly gay? Is he just propositioning boys while theyre at a meeting? Trying to hold their hand? Slip em a kiss? None of these things have any part in Boy Scouts! Being gay is about sexual preference and perversion. If they’re not discussing it or acting on it, then are they “openly gay?”

        • neko_dachi

          Openly gay means that they have simply made their sexual orientation know publicly. It does not neccesarily mean that they are actively trying to proposition the scouts.

          I am openly heterosexual. (I think that I can safely assume that you are as well.) I know that I certainly am not trying to proposition every member of the opposite sex I meet. I assume you do not do so either.

          Just because a person is homosexual, it does not mean that person is some sort of animal that cannot control their own actions. They are still human beings, just like you or I.

          • Is_Sense_Common

            Thank you. You just made my point for me. “…they have simply made their sexual orientation known publicly.”

            Why do they have the need to discuss their sex lives in Boy Scouts??? They don’t.

            • neko_dachi

              I don’t think you are seeing my point.

              There is nothing to indicate that these people have been discussing their sex lives at Boy Scout meetings. If they have been, then that is an issue that would need to be addressed with that individual.

              I would say the same thing about any person who was discussing their sex lives with Boy Scouts.

              • I think you’re missing the point actually. Why do we even need to know they are openly gay? Why do we even need to know what kind of sex life they practice? I’ve been to school functions with my son and very rarely do I see any couple sharing a kiss or even any type of hint as to their sexual preference. So why the need for an acknowledgement of being openly anything? If 2 women or 2 men accompany a child to an event, that doesn’t automatically make them homosexuals, and why would we even need to know that they are?

                I do believe that’s the point Is_Sense_Common is trying to make. Why do they need to express publicly what their orientation is?

  • I am so glad the Boy Scouts are sticking with their traditions and rules. If these folks care so much, they need to start their own organization.

  • 3seven77

    Hurrah for the Boy Scouts organization for standing their ground!

    I don’t understand why the people who want to allow gay scouts don’t just start their own organization. Then they can make the rules and the policy and open their membership to whoever they want. I guess that’s just too easy?

  • Raised by two lesbians, i wonder if he gay?, if so was he that way born or taught?
    the answer should be a no brainer.

    Tea Party Patriot
    “Teach them the way they should go” I read that some where.
    seems the lesbians Taught him well.

  • carltonwest

    Doesn’t the Boy Scout Oath say something about being “morally straight”? Wouldn’t work for gays.

  • Sober_Thinking

    That’s exactly my beef with homosexuality (no pun intended). The whole world has to be tolerant and embrace the rainbow – we have no choice to shun it. As they get their cancer deeper into Americana, then they’ll eventually want restitution for all the persecution they’ve endured over the years. The blueprint is already there. Yes, maybe a stretch… the fagging of Amerca isn’t enough is my point. And having a homosexual influence on young boys is sickening.

  • Since the matter has already been decided by the US Supreme Court, since this involves a First Amendment right, any lawsuit that does not raise new issues should subject the plaintiff’s attorneys to treble damages for vexatious litigation. Further, any such attorneys will have proven themselves to be opposed to First Amendment rights. Should they bring other cases in support of First Amendment rights, this case in opposition to such rights may be relevant to any defendant.

  • hosepipe

    The Boy Scouts is not about sex.. if he don’t tell anyone who’s to know?..
    If he tells people, he is preaching.. advocating.. being an example of.. something queer..

    No chance of a Sodomy Merit Badge, so far…

  • stick287

    The packs I was apart of 928 and 982, cubscouts and boyscouts, it had no women involved as its a male bonding experience although some moms would tag along. I was always extremely happy when my dad did come because he worked night shift and I didnt see him alot.

  • stick287

    Stalin did that … well I guess there was hitlers youth group but atleast fascists hate all the people who dont have christian morals and in hitlers case werent german but, they’re kinda like modern day crusaders just going out of the way to burn non believers to a crisp. :-p