BRUTAL: Rep. Gowdy completely destroys Sebelius claim of ‘balance’ over HHS abortifacient mandate


This is a MUST WATCH. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) completely destroys Kathleen Sebelius’ claim of ‘balance’ over her HHS abortifacient mandate, exposing the fact that she completely ignored seeking any legal basis for her mandate, whether it be directly constitutional or based on Supreme Court precedent. She claims to have relied on discussions from her lawyers on the mandate’s constitutional basis, however she says there are no legal memos to back up that claim, which means it never happened.

This is embarrassing (via PJ Tatler):

In my opinion, for her willful constitutional ignorance, Kathleen Sebelius deserves the Liberty FacePalm award:

Liberty Facepalm Award

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  • Islam_Sucks

    she’s lying of course. make her afraid some more. (snicker)

    • G_unitttt

      Kathleen Sebelius’ HHS abortifacient mandate just got Fluke’d right there

  • Sober_Thinking

    Glenn Beck labeled her as “the most dangerous woman in America”. Her willful disregard for our Constitution, her ignorance, and this sort of seemingly unrestrained power that she wields is nauseating. I think Glenn was right (again).

    I hope they keep the fire to her and this regime’s feet. This makes me furious – the blatant disregard for religious freedom. Maobama’s attack on Christianity is unforgivable.

    • denbren52

      I agree with one exception. You mention “her ignorance” which implies that she does not know what she is doing. She is far from ignorant. She knows exactly what she is doing and she knows that the Constitution forbids what she is doing. But if she gets away with it just once, it will become legal precedent and she knows that too. That is why she is “the most dangerous woman in America”.

      She is willfully trying to destroy the First Amendment of the Constitution with the full blessings of her boss, the self-appointed king of America.

      • NJK

        You’re right. She know exactly what she’s doing. He was trying to expose her willful, selective, ignorance.

      • Sober_Thinking

        Good point.

        I’ll rephrase to say: “her feigned ignorance of the Constitution”

        She’s a blight on this country.

      • Spartan4Palin

        I want Gowdy to be our next AG! I love watching him tear people apart!

    • leel004

      ….and it is not just obama’s action that at this point are not deliberate, but those that are also willing participants. Do they REALLY think GOD (who they claim to believe and follow) will not pass judgement on their souls???????????


    Knowledge is power.

  • RocklinConservative

    The sighs during the questions and her indignant answers translate to: “Why are you lecturing me about all this ‘religious liberty’ crap? I DON’t care!”

  • You notice she claimed the “separation of church and state” was the basis by which the government is prevented from forcing religious beliefs on people. Many conservatives claim no such provision exists. If it is true that no such provision exists then she just referenced a non-existent provision.

    • Bunjy

      It’s true, no such provision-worded as such-exists in the Constitution. Notice that Mr. Gowdy referenced the First Amendment, not the doctrine of “separation of church and state”, because it’s the 1st that controls. What it says is very simple and in plain English-“Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” It simply means the Fed cannot establish a “national church” to which everyone must belong, ala The Church of England established by Henry VIII. It doesn’t mean all references to religious tenets be removed from government itself.

      • You’re correct!

      • Deborah8050

        It means a bit more than just Congress not being able to establish a national church. The establishment clause means Congress cannot make a law that requires either belief or practice of religion, which is immediately followed by the free exercise clause which states that Congress also cannot prohit the people from believing or praticing their religion freely. The “separation of church and state” (found in the Communist Manifesto, not in the Constitution of the United States) is used as a false premise to restrict the rights of the people to freely exercise their religion such as prohibiting prayer or Bible study in schools, banning manger scenes from counthouse lawns, banning the posting of the 10 Commandments from courthouses, to name just a few instances. But none of these religious activities by citizens rises to the level of Congress making a law requiring these religious activities, which is the ONLY restriction of the establishment clause.

      • jbinnout

        Right you are. That phrase is always stated backwards. It is correctly stated as a separation of state from church.

    • In the context that Separation of Church and State is used by Progressives, it doesn’t exist. Congress shall pass now law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.

      There is NO Constitution basis for the federal government to BAN anyone from exercising religion in any place in this country for any reason. NONE. This is the context of which Sebeliass used it.

      • Sorry Micky, but separation of church and state is IMPLIED by the First Amendment. For the government to make any decision with regard to religion other than to honor the beliefs and dictates of that religion, creates a de facto religious preference of “all but yours”.

        There are very few situations where the government has deviated from that stance. Roe v. Wade is one. Human sacrifice is another. And banning polygamy. The only reason the government superceded religious belief on these is because two have a direct life or death impact. The third has a huge, and complex, legal and economical impact that would be nearly impossible to mitigate.

        And with the removal of things like the Ten Commandments from courtrooms in recent years, you’re seeing a stricter adherence to the ideal of keeping government venues religion-neutral. In the past, people commonly turned a blind eye because there were too few dissenting voices to complain. Now, with the internet eliminating distance, those dissenting voices can be heard as a group.

        And just as they remove the Ten Commandments from courthouses, so too does the government avoid picking sides in arguments between or about religions.

        • TJ

          With these quotes, do you think the founders ever intended to have all references to the basis of our government removed from the public square?

          “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religious, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here.” Patrick Henry 1776

          “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.” The US Congress 1782

          “We have staked the whole future of our new nation, not upon the power of government; far from it. We have staked the future of all our political constitutions upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.” – James Madison

          “Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority for that law which is divine…far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other.” – James Wilson (signatory of the Constitution)

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          “Finally, let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers were brought hither by their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate its principles with the elements of their society, and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political, or literary.”
          Daniel Webster

          “If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.”
          Noah Webster

          “The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. Where, some say, is the king of America? I’ll tell you, friend, He reigns above.”
          Thomas Paine

          “Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.”
          William Penn

          “It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.”
          Patrick Henry

          “Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants.”
          Benjamin Franklin

        • So when are they going to remove the 10 Commandments from the Supreme Court in Washington?

          “ I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. . . There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.”
          “At the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the amendment to it, now under consideration [i.e., the First Amendment], the general, if not the universal sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship.”

          Jospeh Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States

          “Let the children who are sent to those schools be taught to read and write and above all, let both sexes be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education”
          Letters of Benjamin Rush, “To the citizens of Philadelphia: A Plan for Free Schools”,
          March 28, 1787

          “It is the duty of all men in society, publicly, and at stated seasons, to worship the
          SUPREME BEING, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty, or estate, for worshipping GOD in the manner most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; or for his religious profession or sentiments; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or obstruct others in their religious worship.”

          John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

          “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained. ”

          George Washington, First Inaugural Address, April 30, 1789

          “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

          Thomas Jefferson

  • 27Words

    It’s amazing how stupid she comes off in this video… Stupid like a fox… they knew dam well they were merely implementing their political ideology and didn’t give a rat’s arse about the law because they are the new enlightened class….

    • JarrodThomas

      Bingo 27 words.

  • drphibes

    Video is gone.

  • She either got horrible advice or she is just lying or this is just how this administration operates-no regard for the Constitution and they just bulldoze over it hoping NOONE will notice. God help us and God, please help us vote out this mess in November!

    • sDee

      It is the second. They know they are pushing legislation, executive orders, regulations and enforcement specifically targeted at undermining the Constitution and concentrating power in the executive branch.

  • conservative58

    Could you hear her breathe a sigh of relief when the gentleman’s time expired? Kudos to Rep. Gowdy for an excellent job. The Admin needs to start taking some responsibility and be held accountable for their lawless decisions they are forcing down the throats of the American people.

    Thanks Scoop for all your work in bringing these highlights to us. I’m very encouraged to see clips such as these!

  • You know why there are no memos? Because they know it is blatantly un Constitutional. They do NOT care. They think if they can implement the rules fast enough, they will destroy the health care system completely. Then they swoop in and implement the nationalization of the health care industry. Classic communist takeover. We are on the cusp folks, these folks will do anything to implement their system. ANYTHING!

    • StrangernFiction

      Exactly! The limits to what these evil bastards will do are all a result of external barriers. They are every bit as wicked as the murderous Leftists of days gone by.

    • dshevlin

      Yes, we are on the cusp David and yes, they will do anything to implement their system. But they made too many mistakes. One was selling their souls to the evil. Big one. They can not be saved any longer. He see’s, do not forget that. There’s that truth thingy out there that can not be deleted. Remember!

  • GraceKnows

    “This video has been removed by the user”

    • It’s been fixed.

      • GraceKnows

        Thanks! That was quick! 🙂

    • Try this Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) Kathleen Sebelius through google video

  • It was great to see Sebilius squirm. As former Governor of Kansas, where I live, we were glad to be rid of her. Imagine our shock when she was chosen as HHS Secretary, clearly a more powerful position. She is evil through and through and supported abortion. She was ex-communicated from the Catholic church for her stance.

    There is many, many evil people in ths administration.

    • StrangernFiction

      Frightening that a woman like this could be elected governor of a state as red as Kansas.

      • dshevlin

        I know!

  • detectivedick

    She does not care about the Constitution, she has 2700 + pages of bull to interpret and write new regulations controlling every American. What a disgusting pawn and foolish women, how can she look in a mirror. The devil has two reserved seats for Nancy and Kathleen.

    • Rshill7

      At last count the accompanying regulations that go with those 2,700 or so pages, were at 20,000 additional pages and counting. Dat gal be a prolific writer, and her staff lawyers be legal eagles. So, it’ll all come out in the wash…if we can find a large enough washer. No worries.

      Perhaps they can get some Tide from the Tides Foundation?

      • detectivedick

        I prefer a plunger for her. Tide will only change the smell of the Woodstock Washington dirty laundry.

  • tinker_thinker

    Brilliant! I thank you, Rep. Gowdy, take a bow!

  • dlg1956

    With the re-election of Obama (Obama Jr is no different), you can expect this type of tryanny to explode. That is why it is so important that everyone from Senator to dog catcher have a conservative record that is verifiable.

    Talk is cheap so is Obama Jr’s record of conservative votes and legislation.

    Stop the RINOs write in for POTUS

    • wodiej

      They can’t find Obama’s records, remember…lol

    • 7LibertyForAll

      I don’t want conservative. I want Constitutional! THAT’s what is missing from 99.9% of the parasites who have impoverished us. I want REAL freedom, not what passes for freedom via most conservatives.

  • TJinNJ

    Another Marxist in Barry’s Regime…

  • MontanaAnnie

    “We relied on discussions…” These people make their own truth, and their own law.

    Thank you, Rep. Gowdy!

    • NYGino

      Yeah, that’s a sure sign of transparency in government. He said, she said.

    • Psyphurr Lock

      No paper trail is perfect for this adminstration. You can’t get legal evidence from nothing… So how do you prove anything? Snakes, all of them. Cowards at best.

  • He is a rock star! I wish he was here in FL!

    • mamasue54

      Well, I did vote for Rep. Gowdy and this video makes me proud I did. GO GOWDY!!!

  • bjohnson55

    Now that was impressive, Rep. Gowdy took her to the woodshed, I wish he hadn’t been interrupted. South Carolina is an impressive State I must say, if Rep. Gowdy and Gov. Haley are an example of the majority of politicians and citizens of that State I may just want to move there.

    • Don’t forget Joe Wilson… we LOVE him….. although most of us will be thrilled when we can finally pry Graham out of his Senate seat!

      • bjohnson55

        Do you reside in South Carolina? If so I am even more impressed.

  • wodiej

    I am at least glad for the brave, ethical souls we do have in Congress, as few as they are. Talk is cheap and as the Bible says “A good name is more desirable than great riches; to be esteemed is better than silver or gold.” Proverbs 22:1

  • NYGino

    You could tell be her answers and demeanor that she felt totally above this and the idea that she had to give answers to this man was nothing but an inconvenience. This attitude stems from the fact that she knows she has the backing of her boss, who could care less about the rule of law much less the Constitution.

  • “I’m not a lawyer and I don’t pretend to understand the nuances of the Constitutional balance test…”

    Well see, there’s the problem. Most of our government is made up of people who ‘don’t understand’ or have never bothered to learn. Oh, maybe they know the Constitution, but they clearly have never read anything of the Founders or of other sources which the Founders read, which would show clearly their intent of what kind of government they were setting up for the American people.

    Here we have a former Governor, who is now the head of a bureaucracy which is not Constitutional, who is forcing unConstituional agenda on the people.

    Oh well, she never paid attention to the Constitution when she was Governor of Kansas either.

    Lady, the people get it, and the last time I looked, not all of us were lawyers either, but we ARE an educated citizenry. Might I suggest madame, you take Hillsdale College’s Constitution 101 course? It’s free.

    This was great!

    • What she meant to say is, ‘I don’t know what argument I’m supposed to use to twist the Constitution to make the claim that what I’m doing is legal.’ The Constitution is important to her only in the way that she has to know how to subvert it with her lawyers’ help.

      • Yeah. The Constitution, like Christianity is to these people only what they want to use it for. If it’s brought into context of truth, they throw it on the ground and stomp on it. Pathetic evil people.

  • Bunjy

    Nice cross-examination Mr. Gowdy! Loved every minute of it.

  • Of course the first thing out of her mouth when asked about the religious aspect was “the separation of church and state”. That phrase is NOT in the Constitution you twit! That phrase was found in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. Funny how libs can quickly bring up that quote and ignore his many others. This is what you get after you have been indoctrinated by higher education. She has no business holding the office she holds. These people spend their time trying to subvert the constitution, not uphold it. Give them the boot!

    • I have to laugh sometimes when libs bring that up and think Jefferson was a secularist. When they quote that, I come back with this… “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia

  • dk_in_tn

    Obama’s cabinet is INEPT and they are a ineptocracy. Sebelius thinks she is above it all.

    • 7LibertyForAll

      I think you give them too much credit. There is no ineptitude here. It is, pure and simple, an overthrow of this country via the filth who refuse to read and obey our founding documents, the supreme law of this land. This has been going on since the ink dried on the Constitution and it’s on steroids now.

  • That guy is awesome! I remember an earlier video you may have posted here, where he destroys another official over the “camping” OWS crowd and the way they apply the law with discrimination based on the groups political leaning…..or something like that.

  • wales777

    So Kathleen thinks it the “Separation of Church and State” from the constitution…..? Seriously? Show me where that is Kathleen? And this woman is the head of HHS? How the hell do these people get to the top?

    • Rshill7

      She schlepped her way to the top 🙂

      • NYGino

        That is funny! Mind if I steal that line from you for future use?

        • Rshill7

          Yes. What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine. Oh wait, that’s the O’ admin’s philosophy. Take it. I hope you get more likes than I did with it 🙁

          I’m gonna go out and eat worms with the little robin hobos hoppin’ around here today.

          Last night I threw out a soupcan and a bunch of pencils and early this cold morning a group of robins had all of their stuff wrapped up in little balls on the ends of those pencils and were using the soupcan as a burnbarrel.

          Bless their scruffy little faces. Tonight I’m gonna throw out some disposable razors.

    • E. Lee Zimmerman

      In fairness to Kathleen, there are an awful lot of politicians who make this grade-school mistake. I’ve long said that folks who are Presidential appointments should be required to pass some type of sixth grade level Constitutional awareness test; it would be a minimal requirement, and I think it perfectly fair.

  • Psyphurr Lock

    I LIKE this guy!! Can we get him to replace Holder in the new administration?

  • E. Lee Zimmerman

    In a sane world, Rep. Gowdy would be winning a Presidential Award for Freedom.

  • Que pendeja…

  • Me thinks she was looking for an escape route from the room.. LMAO. Stumble-dork. I absolutely LOVED how he made her look like a doofus in front of the whole world… Wretched woman!

  • Wow, I don’t know who Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) is, but if Romney wins the election this guy really needs to be the next Attorney General. He really does.

  • steprock

    She got the schoolgirl smackdown lecture from a very annoyed teacher. And she, it seems, is a very dense pupil.

  • This woman is every bit as disgusting and dangerous and that criminal running the Justice Department. If you are a black panther attacking voters, no biggie, if you
    are a state trying to uphold federal immigration law, weeeeellllll hello, I guess the Justice department should sue you.
    Criminals. I cannot wait to vote them out of office.

    • steprock

      Can’t happen soon enough. And let me say this: I’d vote for Mitt Romney to be rid of these scoundrels. Even if he’s not your pick, just think about how much you love Obama and make a choice.

      • 7LibertyForAll

        That’s what they’re banking on, steprock. Mittens will be more of the same, make no mistake about that. Who is the ONLY one who has been steadfast in preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution? Ron Paul. If you ignore this choice you deserve what you get–the end of this country, for good.

  • odin147

    hanging in there…few more months left hopefully the nightmare will end

  • Gowdy is a true master, I’d hate to be against him in a debate.

    • teri_b

      Reminds me of Jeff Sessions, who is a heck of a lot smarter than he looks. He is one of my Senate heroes.

  • WordsFailMe

    like this guy

    • Linky1

      He owner her in this exchange.

  • NJK

    It’s refreshing to see someone as informed and as articulate as him.

    She has an obligation to know the Constitution or she shouldn’t be in this position.

    • 7LibertyForAll

      You got it, NJK!!!

  • Hooliganz513

    no what she deserves is to be put in jail for purposefully subverting the constitution

    • kong1967

      Lol, but she doesn’t even know the boundaries of the Constitution as she admitted. How can she purposely subvert it when she doesn’t understand where the lines should be? I think her superiors definitely subverted the Constitution because they know she only has a background of health insurance, not law. I honestly don’t think she was trying to subvert the Constitution, although that’s what she ultimately did. She just applied the knowlege she had about the industry she had a career in. Her superiors should have made sure she had constant connection to law and Constitutional experts while she wrote the bill. They didn’t because they don’t care about the law. If they did provide counsel, it was obviously BAD counsel.

      • 7LibertyForAll

        Oath of office=responsibility. Period.

        • kong1967

          Ok, you win, lol. Democrats pushed it and that’s what really matters. It is unconstitutional.

  • S

    What is scary is if Sharia Law is applied in this instance….this may be a difficult position for some.

    • I wouldn’t put it past them to try, but I don’t know how that would work because sharia is antithetical to the Constitution.

  • forgetyoutoo

    Trey Gowdy certainly has a way with words. I like him and his style.

  • Smackdown! Don’t you just love all the sighs she gives as if to say “I can’t be bothered with the Constitution.” ? Wake up America! Your Constitutional rights are under attack. OMG Obama Must Go!!

    • kong1967

      She has a health insurance background, not a law degree. She should have been teamed up with law and constitutional experts but she wasn’t. She can only do what she knows and is capable of doing. In my eyes this is the fault of her superiors. The President and Congress are the ones that should be looking to protect the Constitution, and they didn’t. She’s just doing a job she was told to do without the legal background to do it properly.

      • 7LibertyForAll

        Did she freely take the oath of office? Yes. Then she is either capable of obeying the Constitution or she will not. It is YES or NO. There is no gray area here. When you give these filth wiggle room they take it and destroy this country.

        • kong1967

          When has law ever been written by one person and put into effect by one person?

          I’m getting stuck on a mute point here. Whether it’s her fault directly or Obama’s team of lawyers, I think we can agree that the Democrats pushed bad law. We agree on the unconstitionality. I’m going to get off the point of individual blame. The Democrats proposed it, so let’s leave it at that.

  • Idahoser

    none of this matters. They will get their way. They deign to sit before the old white guys and be grilled because right now it’s easier that way, but it doesn’t make any difference. They look forward to the day they can waterboard the old white guy just because it’s fun.

  • Nukeman60

    Whoa, his time has expired? I’m not done listening to him yet. Bring him back.

    I like his cool, calm, reasoned, yet devastaing approach to Sebilius. Scoop, you need to put up the ‘Liberty Facepalm’ every time this pinhead (Sebelius) speaks. This was awesome.

    • kong1967

      Hey, she was my governor at one time (lol)! She actually wasn’t too bad of a governor for a lib. She’s pro military and what-not. She screwed up her reputation by joining forces with the dictator Marxist.

  • Is Sibelius another candidate for impeachment?

    • PVG

      Another session or two like this, maybe she’ll resign.

    • 7LibertyForAll

      Actually, it’s treason 😉

    • NYGino

      At the very least, forced exile.

  • d00mie

    You can really see the prosecuter background come out with Gowdy, BTH I really didn’t like him too much when he was working for Spartanburg, and he hasn’t impressed me at all now that he’s our congressman.

    • MacSwain

      Based on this performance Gowdy should be your choice for Senate to replace your sitting Senator Graham – whose only expertise is the number of polyps in Senator McCain’s arse. Since that has been the location of his head for the last 6 years.

      • d00mie

        Yah, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Remember that Graham lead the charge to impeach Clinton. Gowdy isn’t that much different. He’s a career politician, just like Graham. His great accomplishment as Spartanburg Solicitor was a program to bust check bouncers. Not saying that is bad, but when there is an epidemic of crack and methamphetamine abuse going on in your community you kinda expect higher priorities. Unfortunately my fellow voters disagreed with me.

  • d1carter

    Does she appoint the members of the death panels..?

    • MacSwain


  • klaffner

    “The gentleman’s time as expired” is the most idiotic parliamentary rule in congress. Each side should have counsel in big hearings. The counsel has all the time he needs. He questions witnesses until he willingly gives over time to the other side. Like a chess clock. Each side gets equal time.

  • BOO-YAH!!!

  • Eh2Zed


  • That was fun!

  • That was fun!

  • rclawrence

    Typical nincompoop just like Holder and the not legal occupier of the white house


    …these COMMIES in the Obama regime must that is MUST BE PUT ON the Unemployment line come JANUARY 2013 you all have no option .”(period)

    • marketcomp

      At least they should know important parts of the Constitution. Oh wait, President Obama doesn’t even know that.

      • kong1967

        Yeah, he does. He’s a constitutional scholar. Unfortunately, though, he didn’t study it out of respect for it. He studied it so he could get around it and he doesn’t miss a beat to do it as often as possible.

        • NYGino

          Know your enemy.

        • marketcomp

          You are so right on this one. The Constitution was really designe for outside threats not inside threats and so we have Obama who is most definitely an internal threat. But the game was on us. The framers understood the internal threats by placing in the Constitution that the President had to be a Naturla Born Citizen. Now some say that because his mother was a citizen then that makes hin a citizen and if that was the case then why forge the selective service documents and the birth certificate? He is not a naturl born citizen and this should be a lesson for all of us. If he is re-elected he should be impeached and thrown out of office.

          • kong1967

            You’re a nutcase birther!! Ha ha, so am I, lol. I think it’s pretty obvious his documents are forged. But that doesn’t matter any more. As much as I wish it would, I think that won’t be going anywhere.

  • Is_Sense_Common

    Dang! That was truly an epic schooling! She knew that she’d been beat. I couldn’t help wondering why her title is “Honorable Kathlene Sebelius” – isn’t that typically reserved for judges, who, by definition are schooled in legalities? I would say there was nothing “honorable” about her stance on her own bill or her pitiful ignorance of our Constitution.

    • kong1967

      In her defense, Obama picked her to write the law. He knew she has no legal background and didn’t provide her with any (I believe her background is in health insurance). I can’t fault her for doing a job she’s told to do and her superiors don’t give her the tools to do it with. If they cared about the Constitution they would have made sure she stayed within it’s bounds, but they don’t care.

      • Patriot077

        I think the health care bill has over 1000 references to “the secretary shall” so sebelius will be busily crafting all kinds of rules and laws that do not take the constitution into account …

        • kong1967

          No doubt, and that’s bad. However, she has a career in health insurance, so how can she be blamed for crossing the lines of law or the Constitution? This is why companies have lawyers so they can stay within the confines of the law. Government also has lawyers and it is their job to advise. I wouldn’t think any of her proposals go through without being examined by law and Constitutional experts…..who obviously are looking to find ways around them. I blame them and Obama.

          • 7LibertyForAll

            How can she be blamed for crossing the lines of law or the Constitution? Simple. Any ignoramus can read our founding documents and obey them as the sacred oath they freely took insists that they do. Those who take this most sacred oath and who do not obey it are committing treason. Period. What is the penalty for treason? End of discussion.

            • kong1967

              Lol, the penalty for treason is making an end to discussion? Just kidding.

              We agree on it being bad law and it should have been stopped and not considered once the lawyers saw it. They should have crumpled it up, thrown it in the trash, and said “start over”.

              • “They should have crumpled it up, thrown it in the trash, and said “start over”.

                I think they should have crumpled it up. thrown it in the trash and said, “forget it.”

                • kong1967

                  Ah, you got me. Duh. You’re right.

                • lol. 😉 you thunk it, I said it.

        • NYGino

          I forget where I heard this but whoever said it referred to this as a bill that will never stop being written.

        • Is_Sense_Common

          You’re right. I hear that they’ve already written nearly 20K pages of rules for following the initial rules listed in the 2700 page document. Wow. Think of the trees that are being killed mercilessly just for this bill. How do they balance that with the environmental wackos? It really must be hard to be a liberal. I can’t imagine trying to defend all this garbage. And it really is just that – garbage.

  • marketcomp


  • wow, now this is america fighting back. THIS should be our headline news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • shumanthehuman

    Thanks Rep. Gowdy for your excellent contribution to preserving our liberties. A true patriot and someone to watch as our need for experienced, trustworthy public servents expands at the national level.

  • kclightguy

    Whoda thunk it? Sebelius using the classic liberal “ignorance is bliss” defense. How can we have sunk so low as to have people of this type in positions of power?

    • PVG

      ANSWER: BO!

      • kong1967

        Body odor.

    • kong1967

      I don’t so much hold a grudge against her. Yeah, she’s stupid and didn’t consider the Constitution, but she’s being told what to do. She should be given legal counsel and if it’s not being provided I think that’s the fault of the administration. Sabelius clearly stated she had no legal advice, and if liberals are giving her a job to do involving making law then they damned well better make sure she has access to legal advice. They didn’t because they don’t care what the Constitution says.

      • 7LibertyForAll

        She does not need legal advice. She needs to read and obey the Constitution of the united States–that which she stated a solemn and binding oath to protect, preserve, and defend…..and therefore, obey. She does none of these because she has no interest in doing so. Your comments in a later post nailed it.

        • kong1967

          Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to make her out to be innocent. Take this point…

          When Bush was being harrassed over waterboarding, he repeatedly told the press that his lawyers were advising him of Constitutional law. There can be so many interpretations of the law (although there shouldn’t be) that everything has to be passed through lawyers. No one should be making law without it being highly scrutinized, including Sebelius who isn’t a lawyer. I’m sure everything she proposed was given the green light by Obama’s law team. That’s on them because they are the experts.

  • Jim Gilman

    What caught my attention was the placard in front of her says the “HONORABLE” Kathleen Sebelius. Too funny.

    • NYGino

      Jim, it’s called an oxymoron. And a fine example of an oxymoron it is too!


    Who is this Gowdy dude? Woo hoo.

    • MacSwain

      South Carolina Rep. — His first term.

    • Patriot077

      He has been really excellent in the Fast & Furious hearings as well.


      MacSwain and Patriot, Thank you. Glad to see this new person emerging.

  • kong1967

    This is the problem with liberalism. They just “do” without considering the Constitution or our freedoms. The libs that DO consider the Constitution want to call it a “living, breathing document” so they can circumvent it’s purpose and say it means whatever they decide it means at the time they want to get around it.

    • The explanation for that problem is simple. I was just talking about it, yesterday, with a liberal.

      Laws are there for a reason. While some laws may become archaic, they shouldn’t be just ignored; you do something about it by having the appropriate legislature alter or strike down those laws. However, when you have a nation, or at least a group (liberals) that choose to disobey laws by ignoring them, just because they don’t like them, for whatever reason (“inhumane”, inconvenient, etc.), then you have lawlessness, and then what’s the point of even bothering to legislate? Sebelius is a classic case of the leftist that ignores laws, when its convenient to do so, and obeys them when its politically expedient, especially when it harms someone else.

      • kong1967

        So true. I was arguing before that I don’t blame Sebelius as much because she has a background in health insurance, not Constitutional law. Everything she proposed was surely given the green light by such experts, and that’s who I blame….and the liberal reps along with Obama. After a bit, though, I realized that it was a mute point because it doesn’t make any difference. The left pushed it one way or another, no matter who should have put a stop to it.

  • get rid of her when we have the revolution……….

  • 911Infidel

    Man everytime that evil toadie comes before Congress, they open up a can of whoop-a$$ on her. God that woman is an idiot.

  • Dick_Parker

    Would someone please show this clip to Mitt Romney…
    Trey Gowdy should do very well as Holder’s replacement.

  • “The separation of Church and State”. That, right there, disqualifies her from ever being taken seriously in any matter that pertains to governance, especially on a national level. She has obviously not read the Constitution, and just as obviously does not care about the Constitution and making laws and regulations based on Constitutionality. If she’s relying on attorneys for legal advice, clearly, they’re giving her bad advice, and, really, you don’t have to be Mark Levin, Esq. to really understand the Constitution. A lot of it is plain and simple, with a minority of the topics requiring research. I guess calling her position “willful ignorance” does fit, because she quite obviously does not care to investigate anything, nor to even get competent legal advisers involved.

  • pairadimes

    We are watching the aggressive stage four cancer of big progressive government metastasize right in front of our eyes, and there are not enough Gowdys to beat it back. We need to vote this man a lot of help in November.

  • snowworld3

    She is evil…she is one of the worst of the baby killers………..

  • snowworld3

    Her name tag in front of her states Honorable. There is nothing honorable about this devils spawn.