Charlie Rose – Joe Biden on Israel: They have a right to defend themselves

This is Biden’s complete comments on Israel from his Charlie Rose interview. I must say that it gives me a little hope that the knowledge is up there in the Obama admin regarding what is right and wrong re Israel. Given the last White House encounter with Netanyahu, I wasn’t expecting Biden to be as pro-Israel as indicated. That said, I don’t think that he speaks for Obama explicitly.

What do you think?

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  • Charlie Rose (elite liberal “journalist”) was aghast at Biden's support of the Israelis. The narrative (in his circle of friends) is that we should now demand that the blockade be lifted and Hamas should be free to receive any weapons that they want. No one in the media wants to focus on why this boarding occurred. They were trying to run the blockade on a Turkish ship loaded with thugs.

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  • KeninMontana

    Biden has actually been Pro-Israel for as long as I can remember,which is most likely why he is out doing the “press” tour. The administration is using him as “cover” on this. I believe that “Team O” is using him as a distraction, while they coddle the left and their muslim friends that they have previously reached out to. They will carry on with their veiled condemnation of Israel regardless of the evidence.Charlie Rose's almost “messianic” worship of Obama is evident almost anytime he opens his mouth, I can't think of a single interveiw that he has done where he has not put in a plug for Obama. That said I believe that Biden believes what he is saying about the administration's support of Israel,but sadly Joe has been duped.

  • I generally try to keep quiet on this issue because it raises emotions beyond the rational boiling point, but I do want to make a couple of points.

    The notion that “liberal elites” are somehow anti-Israel is utter nonsense. Most of the “elitist” fields – news media, for example – tend to be predominately composed by Jews. I can only speak for my own experience growing up as a Jew in Manhattan and going to an ivy league college, but any and all criticism of Israel is received extremely unfavorably around these parts. Within 12 hours of the Flotilla incident I had several different facebook invitations to groups protesting the unfair criticism of Israel in this situation – all of which came from people that I know to be party-line Democrat voters. Obviously there is antisemitism festering among some groups, but it is not a particularly apparent trend, and its certainly not unique to liberal elites.

    That said, although I think people jumped to conclusions with the Flotilla that may have been unfair (read Thomas Friedmann's column from the other day) – and the flotilla was almost certainly a plant designed to elicit a violent response that others could use to criticize Israel, I do not think that questioning Israel's handling of the situation is something to be avoided – yes, they have the right to defend themselves, but there are a number of different ways of defending oneself. I'm not taking sides here, just saying that there is a legitimate debate to be had, and one that is not well served by lobbing accusations of antisemitism or anti-Israeli bias.

    I have more to say but I'm exhausted. To be brief: Obama doesn't hate Israel, Israel has done things in the distant and recent past that, regardless of any extenuating circumstances, deserve condemnation – and so has Palestine. Hamas is a democratically elected state power – for better or for aworse – and the current Israeli government is too reactionary. Why can't we all just get along yada yada yada I will write more later.

  • Jojode

    I agree Biden is a liberal but has no idea on who the real O is. I think that when he finaly wakes up he is going to be in for a shock on what he has been apart of. It is going to take those with his clout and in his position to wake up and maybe – maybe we can get this country back. It is so darn scary how fast it is going down.

  • Tyler

    All you really have to do is hear Biden speak to realize that even though he's Obama's right-hand man, he's got a brain of his own…even if it's not a real intelligent one.

    That being said…I'd like to congratulate him before a possible forced backtrack later.

  • @Danny –
    Obama doesn't hate Israel anymore than he hates the “stupid” police in Mass.

    But seriously, he is not thinking about their actual problem when he makes his comments, he is setting up his big score, as he always is when he is talking to us, whatever that big score might be (I've got some ideas but they are outside of this thread).
    If his administration was truly concerned about protected, or at least supporting, an ally he would not be hiding behind nonstatements. And he would be ensuring that someone is getting the video played showing the Israelis being attacked to counteract the one showing the Israelis maintaining order following their overcoming the attacks.

    I will give Biden big credit for this interview, he certainly stepped out of his “stereotype” and spoke knowledgeably and cogently about the blockade and Israel's right to defend itself. And I will continue to watch what Obama does and ignore what he says, as we all should…

  • anon4535

    This may give you a little hope.
    However, to me, this gives little hope.

  • Israel has the right and obligation to defend its citizens

    The brutal slaughter of a family of 5 in Itamar just shows that we are dealing with a barbaric mentality.

    It is a known fact that any country if attacked, its citizens kidnapped, rocket bombardment on a daily basis.
    Has the right and obligation to defend its citizens.

    It is sad that innocent civilians are hurt, but that is the cost of war and conflict.

    Any government and its citizen who do not resist terrorism and let terrorist organization entrench themselves in their country and utilize those countries as bases of armed terrorism against a neighboring country. Eventually pays the price for permitting such actions.

    If you gave the Arab population a vote in Israel and the west bank and Jerusalem the option to vote freely and without intimidation, you would find out, that they would rather be living under Israel’s government. They derive more stability more benefits, pensions, welfare, etc.

    If the United States or any other government were to be attacked from across the border on a daily basis, have its citizens kidnapped, rockets launched at them on a daily basis, the citizens would demand that immediate military action be initiated with no holds barred, collateral damage or not. That is the fact of life.

    Terrorist and those who support them do not know what peace is, they thrive on violence. That is the only way they control the masses. Any negotiations or compromise only strengthen those terrorist organizations. When a poison strikes the human body, the only way to address it, is to remove it and destroy it completely.

    That is the way the terrorist organizations should be treated.

    “Like all sovereign nations, Israel has not only a right, but moreover, an obligation, to ensure the safety and security of her citizens”.

    As quoted in a statement “the only time of a chance for peace is, when the Arab mother would love her children more than she hates the Israelis.

    The big mistake is that people are missing the economic benefits for Israel and its neighbors. That is if there was a true peace, you take the Israeli Technology and know how, add to it the Arab labor and natural resources – and you have an economic prosperity beyond your widest dreams.

    YJ Draiman