By The Right Scoop


***UPDATE: CHICK-FIL-A RESPONDS***

After all those people turned out to support Chick-fil-A, to stand with Chick-fil-A in light of the bullying from the other side, to stand in line for hours to make that Chick-fil-A’s best sales day ever, they turn around and concede to the bullies after all:

WASHINGTON TIMES – Chick-fil-A stopped funding traditional-marriage groups in an effort to open a new Chicago restaurant, but the company initially kept quiet about the decision, prompting gay rights groups to speculate that the company feared a backlash from conservative customers.

The Christian-rooted fast food restaurant agreed to stop funding groups such as Focus on the Family that oppose same-sex marriage in a meeting with the Chicago politician who had been blocking the company’s move there. Chick-fil-A wrote a letter to Alderman Joe Moreno affirming this, according to his spokesman, Matt Bailey, but the company initially wouldn’t allow his office to release the letter to the public. Three weeks later they relented.

“There was concern from them,” said Anthony Martinez, executive director for the Civil Rights Agenda, the Illinois lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender group that negotiated with both Chick-fil-A and the alderman to stop funding for so-called anti-gay groups. “They really didn’t want to announce it, really, but, of course, the alderman needed to clarify why he was changing his stance on them opening a restaurant within his ward.”

Chick-fil-A did not returns requests for comment, and has previously said it will not discuss the issue with the media.

Look, don’t get me wrong, this type of thuggery is anti-constitutional and has no place in America. This Chicago politician blocking Chick-fil-A should be impeached for doing something so nasty. These thugs have no place in government.

I just thought Chick-fil-A had more backbone. I realize they need to expand and it’s not their fault for the persecution they’ve endured. I just hate to hear another private company forced to concede to the left. I would rather them sue the pants off of this politician and the city of Chicago for violating their constitutional rights.

UPDATE: Chick-fil-A has responded to this latest controversy:

Sep. 20, 2012 Chick-fil-A: Who We Are. A Response to Recent Controversy.

For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized. And while our sincere intent has been to remain out of this political and social debate, events from Chicago this week have once again resulted in questions around our giving. For that reason, we want to provide some context and clarity around who we are, what we believe and our priorities in relation to corporate giving.

A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect – regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.

For better understanding of our corporate giving, please click here to download the PDF document titled “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are.”

It doesn’t seem to clarify the specific arguments being leveled against it, but it does make clear they are trying to stay out of political and social debates. But all in all, I’m not so sure this is a denial.

Either way, make of it what you will.

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  • Taurnil Oronar

    I will refrain from the obvious comment and just say, that’s a shame.

    • http://twitter.com/MarthaChandler9 Martha Chandler

      I can’t believe they yielded to pressure. I am very disappointed. I thought they stood for something.

      • 12grace

        ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
        The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

        http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

          What is this?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

      I don’t think I will bet the farm on what some liberal democrat named Moreno from Chicago is reporting. The truth to a liberal is not what the facts dictate, but what they want it to be. There is a report Chick-fil-A is disavowing what Moreno has reported as truth. A Liberal’s existence is based on lies and deceptions and this could be an example of just that. Obama reports the murder of our ambassador and others plus our embassies in several counrtries are be assaulted because of some obscure vedeo no one has seen. This could be just another liberal fantasy with no credibilty. I may be wrong, but would never believe it from a Chicago democrat unless from a credible source.

      • anotherworriedmom

        I would bet $$ that Chick-fil-A promised not to donate any profits from their Chicago stores to certain groups. I don’t believe for a minute that the Cathy family caved.

    • Susanna958
      • teapartyizzy

        For close to 20 years now I can honestly say the information provided in the link susanna958 posted has been the same. Chick-fil-A has never been political as far as I know. It’s sad to see some of the comments here. It hurts. Have faith folks don’t be fooled.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TFSBPXVSCDIMIGDESK63L4VKY Michael

    Okay well let conservatives stay away…let Chick-Fil-A survive with gay and lesbians. Disgraceful and cowardice….again if you think the bulk of your customers will see this as anything but capitulation….they are wrong. We have had Chick-Fil-A days in our office since the incident. THEY WILL BE CANCELLED….go get the gays to support you! I am sick of the left always getting their way then these companies turn around and want conservative money!! NO WAY CHICK-FIL-A!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      I am not surprised with this news. I am done with invertebrates who call themselves conservatives. The whole lot of them can go straight to the dung heap, as far as I’m concerned. They continue to let the liberty-stealing, freedom-killing, hypocritical, intolerant, lying, sycophantic, shameful, pedantic, sophistic, heartless, soulless, pathetic left intimidate, bully, demean, defame, oppress, harass, slander, and smear them. If they do not stand up to those fanatical, idiotic worms and fight back with the ferocity of an army of a million vicious tigers, they do not deserve to enjoy freedom or liberty because they are taking it away from themselves. They will not get my pity. If they prove themselves to be fighters and not cowardly quitters, I will support them and will do all that I can to assist them in their fight. What Chik-Fil-A did was embolden and strengthen the already emboldened and strengthened left. The left needs to be conquered. They need to be rendered impotent as a viable political, social, and economic force. They do not represent the majority of people in this country and therefore should not have a majority say or majority consideration for anything in the United States. They would not have a majority say in other countries of the world and in some countries, they would be vigorously oppressed. Yet in this country, they are allowed to get away with anything and everything they say and do with virtually no persistent, tenacious, fervent opposition. I wash my hands of so-called conservatives who prove by their words and actions just the opposite of what conservatism stands for. Good riddance to them!

    • 12grace

      ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
      The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay

      • kssturgis62

        Your Link is not working, it gives me all highlights and not the story. If you could check your link because i would really like to see this story.

      • kssturgis62

        Got it – thank you !!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

      Michael, you are basing your reaction on a corrupt liberal deomcratic thug. You are doing exactly what the evil bastard wants you to do. Check it out before you become the tool that the leftwing lemmings are. See Susanna958’s post above. Never believe anything until you check it out from multiple sources.

  • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Stewie

    I can’t believe this- There was just a news report earlier this week that they were going to be allowed to open a store after-all because now they have been cleared of the accusation that they use discriminatory practices. I didn’t know there was a political concession behind this BS.

  • brendawatkins

    Wow. I’m speechless. That’s unlike me.

  • 911Infidel

    WTF over? The people came out in support from all points of the compass and then management decides to abandon the majority? I guess I’ll be buying my chicken sandwich some place else.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      It f**king disgusts me. All Chik-Fil-A did was allow American leftists to continue with their arrogant BS. If Chik-Fil-A suffers a big hit because of their cowardice, they deserve it.

      • 911Infidel

        Your comment was spot on. You should have left it up.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          Thanks, 911Infidel. I did further research on this after I saw other comments that the LGBTers misrepresented CFA. However, CFA did not take action quickly after the LGBT liars released their statements. It also appears that CFA policy is very vague in regards to what their stand on marriage actually is, leaving it open to interpretation. Their mistake. It’s also their mistake that they took no immediate action in response to the LGBT community’s lies. Now they are paying the price for their mistakes.

          • 911Infidel

            That’s exactly where I’m at on the subject. Well said.

          • ssenecal5000

            Non-sense . CFA never had a company policy about marriage
            Its the CEO’s personal position THATS why the company was attacked
            Now , because of the rancid homosexual alderman , you expect CFA to do something against their lies ,, when reason dictates you should be demanding the gays to tell the truth

    • 12grace

      ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
      The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay

      • 911Infidel

        Yeah I read that all ready. What I was looking for was evidence that the company continues to support tradition family causes or makes contributions to them. I didn’t see that. The company contributes to non-political orgs. For a supposedly pro-family company to not give contributions to the FRC or to Dobson’s group, I see this article as more of an attempt to cover Chick-fil-A’s butts. I’m not satisfied, and I’m getting probably just going to do Chinese from now on.

        • 12grace

          I believe that Chick-Fil-A is being set up. I think we should all research the matter before crucifying them. I think Moreno was putting words in their mouth to intentionally make them look bad.

          • 911Infidel

            Sodomites can’t be trusted on any level…neither can their supporters on the left…But until I get a warm fuzzy from the owners of the company…I’ll stick with what I read about them…So my challenge to Chick-Fil-A is: change my mind and do it with metaphysical certitude. Otherwise I’ll to stand pat.

            • ssenecal5000

              Non-sense You are demanding Chickfila do something now because the gay mafia made a unsupported claim
              First off, ChickFila has done more already even tho they are actually a chicken restaurant , not a community organizer
              Secondly , YOU are the problem since YOU are letting YOURSELF be dictated what to do and think by the gay mafia

              • 911Infidel

                I demand metaphysical certitude…as I do for every other story that I hear on the news. That’s not nonsense, that’s called being an informed grownup in my neck of the woods.

    • 12grace

      Let’s not jump to any conclusions until we have fully researched this matter.

      • 911Infidel

        Show me a definitive comment from the corporation that defends the traditional family and show me where their foundation supports traditional family values. And I’d like to hear it from the Cathys themselves.

        • 12grace

          I posted it above. You show me reliable proof that Chick-Fil-A has not lived up to their reputation.

          • 911Infidel

            Go back and re-read my comments. I’ve already addressed that.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            Are you that troll teapartyizzy? Because you’re really annoying posting the same thing over and over. You’re not convincing me. Bottom line: they said they would no longer donate to Family Research Council, and Focus on the Family. That is a CHANGE from the last position that they’ve taken.

            CAVE.

            • jaybenson

              My understanding of the LGBT boycott and subsequent counter support is that it was originally about the Cathy family donations and not corporate funded. The argument on the left was that by supporting CFA you were giving money to the Cathys and by default the evil supporters of traditional marriage. The corporate statement is the same policy and is a way to steer attention from the family who will continue to donate as they have in the past. Spin it to sound like a change of policy while still supporting via family donations and the left is left standing around confused and bewildered but thinking they’ve somehow won.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

                Well said, jaybenson. Let the left think they’ve won. People will see the facts for themselves and they will see the left as you’ve said, a bunch of bewildered, confused, lying maniacs (okay, I added a couple of my own words).

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              12grace is not a troll.

  • kbrecht

    EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones

    (face palm)

  • Rshill7

    Stooooooopid.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    A marxist America. This should be an outrage, and if I lived in Chicago, or had the money to go there, I’d be grabbing as many Christian brothers and sisters that I could and do my own version of occupy the commie aldrerman and anyone else who’s got the freaking nerve to do this to a private company.
    As for Chick fil A, I’m disappointed as well. I find it hard to believe that they have stood on other Bible values so strongly- even to the point of possibly losing business and money (not opening on Sundays) that they would cave to this. Christians, who are you answering to? A two bit thug of an elected official or The King of Kings, Jesus Christ?

  • 12grace

    Before we jump on the band wagon and condemn Chick-Fil-A let’s do more investigating. This article was written by who?

    • Rshill7

      WASHINGTON TIMES

      • 12grace

        No, the author of the article. More research is required.

    • Zaphenath_Paneah_II

      WT is a different kettle of fish to WaPo. The latter would be considered the enemy by folks like yourself and I, while the former leans more towards our way of thinking and thus has less motive to write this as a way of putting a blemish on Chick-FillA.

      This whole incident reminds me of the whole Susan G Komen flip-flop with Planned Infanticide-hood. And with Romney all but backing down from his more-than accurate comments on the Welfare scavengers (not that him doing that was surprising at all), this incident with Chick-FillA only continues an interesting, if not greatly demoralising, theme in American society today.

      Nonetheless,

      in God we trust.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        That’s exactly what I was thinking. THe Susan G. Komen flop.

    • Zaphenath_Paneah_II

      PS Concerning my categorisation of WashT and WaPo, I might well be wrong. Its just that every article I’ve ever read from WaTi has tended to sit well with me, whereas I’ve never read anything in WaPo that I even slightly agreed with. I don’t frequent either’s site or patronise either’s hard copy much, so I’m just making an educated guess on where they both stand.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Which is why Mark Levin calls it the Washington COMpost. :-)

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Started with Politco, then World magazine, now we have the LA Times, AJC, etc….

  • kbrecht

    EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING

  • kbrecht

    EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

    Nothing that a few pieces of chicken breast, flour, egg, bread crumbs, oil for frying, buns and condiments couldn’t solve. Staying home with my friends and family!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Kawasaki/1798183858 Dave Kawasaki

      marinate your chicken in dill pickle juice 4-5 hrs.. that’s cfa’s trick. that, and celery salt and a pressure fryer.

      • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

        Uhggg, maybe I can go to CFA incognito then. I am the first to admit I love their chicken, but that is a lot of work to pull that one off. Then again, Wendy’s spicy chicken is a fairly decent substitute minus the customer service.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I guess I need to get me some pepper jack cheese next grocery trip.

  • johnos2112

    COWARDS!

  • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

    Thanks for posting this RS. It is a sad state of affairs indeed. As one person perceived, they promised not to fund “hate speech”, this may be vague enough to ask who gets to clarify what that is?

    One would think that such capitulation for one store is quite extreme. There might just be more under this rock than what first one may think. However, taking a wait and see approach may just be the ticket.

    Nonetheless, the way it sounds is horrendous and another wonderful opportunity for freedom of speech, surrendered.

  • Rshill7

    Hey Chic-fil-A. You can join forces with Carbonite. C-ya!

    Oh, by the way, kiss my ass.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Right on!

    • 12grace

      ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
      The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay

  • WI4Walker

    Disappointed in them.

  • teapartyizzy

    Right Scoop, you need to retract your statement. This just broke yesterday and a response is coming. CFA has not changed any direction.
    Press Release that is coming:

    Update: Media Response Regarding Giving
    Contact: PR Hotline: 800-404-7196

    The below statement will be released to the media this afternoon along with the “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are” document.

    Chick-fil-A, Inc. – Who We Are

    For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized. And while our sincere intent has been to remain out of this political and social debate, events from Chicago this week have once again resulted in questions around our giving. For that reason, we want to provide some context and clarity around who we are, what we believe and our priorities in relation to corporate giving.

    A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

    As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect – regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.

    For a better understanding of our corporate giving, please see the attached document titled “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are”.*

    WhoWeAreStatement (F).docx
    *This is the same document provided and referred to in coverage surrounding Chicago.

    Please direct any media calls to the PR Hotline: 800-404-7196.

    People don’t fry the chicken with reports from the same media that we condemn everyday. This company is who you think they are. A GREAT COMPANY with great, humble leaders.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Interesting read. I am though a bit puzzled as to why they were not ready to come out with this comment when the story broke. They may have been bamboozled by some of the media but even World magazine had an online article regarding this and when asking CFA, there was no comment nor any hint that something was on its way in response.

      • teapartyizzy

        Rash and quick are not in the vocabulary. There is concern for some Owner/Operators that are in locations that have been negatively impacted by this. Incomes and team members. Believe me, there has been no change of corse. There has not been any statements about who or what will or will not be donated money to. Support will continue in the areas they have always focused on. Period. Trust me I know. I just cant say how I know. ;)

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

          I can corroborate teapartyizzy but can’t say how as well.
          http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay-advocates-cook-up-chick-fil-a-fairytale/

          • StandingGround

            I was going to post that link as well, Kim. I had read that article before coming to Scoop so when I saw the headlines here, it threw me. In comparing the gay & lesbian agenda and their lies with CFA’s track record, I am going to give CFA the benefit of the doubt and see what unfolds. Personally, before going off on CFA, I want to do a “wait and see”. If teapartyizzy is right and we jump to conclusions, we’re helping bury one of our own and that would be a shame.

            • keyesforpres

              Our side is always quick to bury one of our own. I don’t get it. I understand standing by your convictions, but sometimes I just wanna say, “Take a deep breath!”

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          If the story was just another concoction by the media to make us turn on fellow conservatives, I will cool my jets and I apologize. There are just too many examples of those who call themselves conservatives bending to the will of the left. I should have known we might be getting set up here. I will wait and see. If anything, this is more distraction and diversion from concentrating on El Presidente’s pathetic record and radical ideology.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            I won’t. They have donated in the past, but they’ve stopped donating. The only difference is that this is just now reported. They have STILL gone against principles.

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

              I can’t argue with you on going against principles. However, because CFA did not specifically outline where they stand on the marriage issue and because they did not reply to the LGBTers immediately after they made their lies public, it compounded the issue and now CFA will suffer as a result of their mistakes. I thought I read something somewhere that said the last time they contributed to anti-gay marriage organizations was in 2010. Why they did not contribute in 2011 and 2012, I don’t know. The left knew this, yet they decided to go public with their information anyway. It doesn’t matter to them if CFA stopped contributing or not. All the information they need is that CFA contributed to so-called “hate” groups. All the whole Chik-Fil-A fiasco did was distract people from focusing on Prez O, his record, and his failings. Now CFA is suffering again from left-wing lies and mistakes of their own making. Again, you’re dead-on about sticking to principles. If I were the Cathys, I’d write a big check to both Focus on the Family and the NOM. Then when the MSM and LGBTers go ballistic and call the Cathys liars, bigots, etc., which is what they are called anyway, since they’re “racist” and “evil” Christians in their twisted minds; the Cathys can go public and say they had an “Obama moment”. I bet that would drive the MSM and LGBT groups violently insane, which would be a wonderful thing to see. They should do that, but I have a feeling they won’t.

    • kamiller42

      Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

      The stuff in bold IS a social agenda. What are you trying to say CFA? I’m off to Popeyes.

      • teapartyizzy

        You were prob going there anyway.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

          I wasn’t, but I’m considering it.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TFSBPXVSCDIMIGDESK63L4VKY Michael

          Listen…they will be losing business big time…tell your capitulator to take their chicken and bend over….just like that did for the gays and lesbians. They will be punished for their cowardice and no spin from you or anyone else will be. They will lose over big money from my office alone with over 30 employees. The Chick-Fil-A days we had two to three days a month I cancelled this afternoon! It will hurt them alright and I hope millions punish them as they deserve. You stand or you fall…CHICK-FIL-A IS FOR THE GAY!!

        • kamiller42

          I just don’t know why CFA had to bring this back up. Their release sounds like someone speaking with marbles in their mouth. They should have let sleeping dogs lie and let the issue fade away.

          Stand or fall by your convictions, but don’t speak with forked tongue.

          • p m

            They didn’t bring it up. The scumbag, libtard Chicago mob alderman brought it up and he and his same-sex marriage cohorts lied, as usual. Think about it – when has the left ever told you the truth about anything???

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

        I’m with you. It doesn’t matter how many times teapartyizzy can spam this. The opposing party is against these type of programs. They have a different radical agenda all their own. It’s a shame Chick-Fil-A caved.

        • teapartyizzy

          You know what, think what you want. I’m done. I saw the post and had just gotten the information I posted around 2:30 this afternoon. It has not had time to hit the news yet (at the time). I thought people that come to this site that stood up for CFA would like to see the truth, but I guess not. Oh well. What can you do. Did you ever think the story was released… Oh never mind yaw could care less about the real people being hurt by this.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            DLTDHYOTWO

        • 12grace

          They did not cave, it is a set up.

          ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
          The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

          http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay

          • keyesforpres

            LOL..I just posted that at the same time!

            • 12grace

              Great minds, think alike! LOL

              I pressed like on your comment but for some reason it did not register?

              • keyesforpres

                Sometimes disquis has issues.

                • p m

                  Got that right – I made a post 4 hours ago and it shows as 1 hour ago! Oh well, busy site – good for RS.

      • Kelly Phillips

        I never liked Chic-fil-a chicken, but I supported the company. Now, Popeye’s – LOVE THEIR CHICKEN, and thus far, haven’t heard anything about the company that would cause me to object to eating there.

        Please don’t ruin that….

        • Reckoner_3

          Most businesses are either involved with this or that political cause where one can’t do commerce anywhere if they tried to take it too literally on principle (unless for instance they overtly advocated murdering babies)

          ….It’s not so much that because one agrees or disagrees with Chk Fil A..politically they are worth going to…..
          It’s that they allowed themselves to be coerced by petulant leftists….that only gives incentive to do this in the future. Terrible decision making , and a waste of good fortune they had in their hands for saying what they believed……..

          Whether or not the product they sell is enough incentive for others who were new customers because of the defense of their beliefs and free speech, to continue patronizing depends on how good they are at business.

          In my view, they showed to me they keep botching things with their markets and the question whether that product is good enough to forget their terrible publicity handling after they got good publicity.

        • 12grace

          Chick-Fil-A is being set up by the left, don’t fall for it.

      • 12grace

        Is Popeye’s a Christian Conservative restaurant?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

      Company spokesman Jerry Johnston told The Daily Caller that Chick-fil-A is “not offering any response to the press release distributed by the Civil Rights Agenda other than the statement we originally released in July,” which reiterated that the fast-food chain treats all people with respect and is a family-owned business founded on “biblically-based principles.”

      Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/20/chick-fil-a-mum-on-claim-that-it-ended-donations-to-anti-gay-groups/#ixzz272hXZyec

      Their July FB statement also includes: “Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

      • Watchman74

        Their July FB statement also includes: “Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

        The government needs to stay out of marriage altogether.

      • teapartyizzy

        Spokesman, he’s a great guy. But that was the response yesterday from to initial news.
        The above is the release as of today.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Going Forward… isn’t that dear leader’s slogan?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

          Ouch!

        • 12grace

          Yes, obama’s motto is not complete it should say something like ” two steps forward and thousands of steps back into the stone ages via my Communist agenda “.

  • NJK

    Thank you for posting this. I won’t help them anymore, if they’re going to surrender. What fools.

    • teapartyizzy

      read my post

      • Rshill7

        Shove your post.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TFSBPXVSCDIMIGDESK63L4VKY Michael

          Amen…I agree they can shove their chicken as well!

        • poljunkie

          Hi Rs. How are you? Good to see you!
          :-)

          • Rshill7

            Peachy keen jellybean. Just a little upset in this thread :-)

            • poljunkie

              Glad to hear you are doin’ well. I havent seen you as often. I guess you are having to work. Doncha hate that? hee hee

              • Rshill7

                It sucketh. I’m reading a lot of George MacDonald too though. He was C.S. Lewis’ favorite.

                Lots of gaelic in there. I think that’s whatchacall it. It’s like Mark Twain to me. He writes it like they say it in Northern Scotland in the 19th century, in which he lived. After a while, you actually understand it. He writes about the 16th and 17th century too. “Saint Michael Saint George” was transportingly brilliant in my little opinion.

      • poljunkie

        Why do you keep saying that?

  • Zaphenath_Paneah_II

    If this checks out to be true, then we are all in a whole lot of trouble than we ever thought.

    • teapartyizzy

      read my post

  • DavidRobertson

    weak sauce.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jaspersilvis Jasper Silvis

    Ok conservatives, don’t go to Chick-Fil-A, especially the one in Chicago that is opening. Make that lose so much money that they will go back to their principles. Sorry, Chick-Fil-A. Your chicken is excellent and your service is the best, but my money will be going elsewhere.

    • teapartyizzy

      read my post

    • KenInMontana

      I see, so it’s okay for Conservatives to practice the same extortion against corporations that they have decried and denounced so loudly when Liberals do it, just so long as it is their “cause” in the mix. Okay, gotcha, you betcha, there’s a word for that you know.

      • Rshill7

        Not frequenting their restaurants is extortion? No, it isn’t. The left did much more than that.

        • KenInMontana

          You can frequent whatever restaurant you like, that’s choice, what he is doing is calling a boycott, which is a form of extortion, “comply or else”.

          • Reckoner_3

            boycott’s aren’t extortion, it’s an exercise within the free markets.

            • KenInMontana

              You, personally, taking your business elsewhere, is an exercise in free markets and choice.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

                HIS POINT.

          • Rshill7

            I was speaking for myself sir, in direct response to what you said. As I look again at the post you responded to…or else? I didn’t see any “or else”. The left does much more than boycott, they demonize.

            A few weeks ago one of them even tried to kill someone from the Family Research Council (I think that’s the name of the place where that shooting took place, which the leftist lapdog media dropped after an hour or so, since it doesn’t fit their storyline).

            I do respect your considered opinion though Ken, and have for many, many, moons, and will continue to :-)

            • KenInMontana

              I recall that shooting, it was the at the Family Research Council HQ in DC. A quick search turns up several “hits” on the story, the sites covering it though are Christian news sites and the news sites of the gay “community”, kind of strange in a way. The Security Guard (after being wounded in the attack) that stopped the shooter, is recovering and the shooter was indited and charged with “Assault with Intent to Kill” (I believe that was the charge), we’ll have to see how the trial goes.

              The sad thing in this world is there are those who are disturbed enough to carry out such acts, even sadder is when the press and political opportunists (I’m trying to be polite on that term, there are ladies present) will ascribe these acts to a philosophical, political or religious belief and attempt to paint all those that may hold similar beliefs with that same broad brush. We’ve all seen this.

              As to the “or else”, that was placed in there to emphasize my take on when demands are made, it’s implied in a demand, of course the “or else” may cover a range of severity regarding the consequences of not complying with with a stated demand, but it’s still there.

              All that said, there will be times that disagreements arise over details, that’s a given as we are all unique individuals, but we are all drawn here because of common purpose as long as we don’t let a difference of opinion change that, we will be stronger for it. A minor disagreement between friends is of a but a passing moment. ;)

      • JannyMae

        I presume the extortion engaged in by the City of Chicago and this Alderman is acceptable to you, because they’ve got “D”s next to their names?

        Conservatives are free to vote with their pocketbook, as are liberals. Why would you think there is a double standard, and why would you suggest that a boycott is “extortion” and not an exercise of freedom of association?

        • KenInMontana

          Wow you really are new around here aren’t you? My comment has to do with a thread here some months back, over sponsors pulling ads from Rush during the Fluke dust-up, several posters here accused those sponsors of attempted extortion for “voting with their pocketbooks”, personally I don’t care whether people patronize Chik-fil-a or not, it’s their choice. My point was that this was abhorred by many here when those on the left did the same thing, and no, I am not “okay”with the Alderman’s action, I see that as extortion as well. These are tough economic times, and businesses face tough choices. The restaurant’s owner could have pulled out and gone elsewhere, I prefer to think that perhaps, (given their espoused Christian values) they felt it was more important to bring some jobs to a community that needs the jobs and still profit. I would also wager that the owner will personally continue to support those organizations and causes he previously did, he will just do it with a personal check rather than a business check.

          • JannyMae

            I don’t think it’s my fault that I don’t understand some longstanding dispute you have with another issue on this site, and I took your comment at face value. You were accusing others of hypocrisy, and you got butt hurt when I pointed it out. Boo hoo.

            Extortion:

            “The practice of obtaining something, esp. money, through force or threats.”

            Boycotts are not extortion, and your comparison between advertisers, i.e. BUSINESSES withdrawing their advertising from a radio program and INDIVIDUALS exercising their right not to purchase products isn’t terribly valid. If those businesses used threats to try and intimidate Limbaugh into caving in to their demands, then that COULD be extortion, but IIRC, they simply withdrew their advertising. So, basically you’ve just got a whole lot of fail going on here.

            • KenInMontana

              “Butt hurt”? Allow me to show you what butt hurt feels like, a time out will perhaps show you some manners. You’re the only one failing here.

              • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                Yeah, I was getting tired of that noise, too.

      • http://twitter.com/FoxiesDoxies Foxies Doxies

        I’m rather puzzled by this. First, my family does not live near a CFA and rarely ever went out of our way to be consumers (even though hubby loves their chicken). To support them and their standing firm on family values, we did go out of our way to their restaurant more than a few times and were happy to do so. Now this story that I thought had a happy ending, is being turned into another slap in the face. I believe consumers use their purchasing power to promote their likes/dislikes of products and is the free market goal. It’s not extortion to stop patronizing a place for whatever reason you may have. It’s extortion to FORCE (use force, threats, intimidation, etc) an outcome of your will. Extortion is what this Chicago politician is essentially doing and should be prosecuted for such actions because he is using his official position to do so.

        • Reckoner_3

          boycott and buycotts aren’t the same as Universities and multiple Mayors, saying you can’t go into my city

          nor is it like demanding “meetings” over one’s free speech rights……

          .

          • http://twitter.com/FoxiesDoxies Foxies Doxies

            Ah yes thank you for reminding me, tyranny is the word I was looking for.

        • KenInMontana

          I view both as extortion, “use force, threats, intimidation, etc”. Is it not a threat to call for a boycott unless that entity conforms to the wishes or demands of another?

          BTW, I agree that the Alderman should be prosecuted, removed or both, the company owner’s personal beliefs are not a legitimate issue when it comes to the process of opening a business. The actions of the Alderman are grounds for a recall and would make fantastic ad fodder for his political opponents labeling him as a “job-killer” particularly in an economically depressed area.

          • http://twitter.com/FoxiesDoxies Foxies Doxies

            I do agree in part and see the relation between them, yet the main difference being extortion is done by an official in a position of power to force conformity of their own will. While Boycotts are generally a group of people/consumers, etc who are voicing their opinion and probably hoping to bring about change in policy/position or whatever the case may be. Boycotts may not ever reflect any outcome, however, extortion will and btw is illegal.

            • KenInMontana

              Extortion and Boycotts are similar in many aspects, both cannot be carried out effectively by an individual without some form of effective backing of a group or organization. Both are the act of demanding compliance with a threat of adverse action against the targeted individual, business, organization, et cetera, for failure to comply with the demanded action.

              Yes, extortion is illegal, however, under US law and most State laws, so is what is termed a “secondary” boycott, which is defined as; ” boycotts which involve attempts to induce third parties to refuse to patronize the employer”.

              • http://twitter.com/FoxiesDoxies Foxies Doxies

                I stand by my previous posts and would further add some distinction to your portrayal of “secondary” boycott. A group’s refusal to work for, purchase from, or handle the products of a business with which the group has no dispute is defined as a secondary boycott. So you can see that a secondary boycott is an attempt to influence the actions of one business by exerting pressure on another business. Hence, your implied definition seems misguided unless the OP was wanting to boycott the chicken supplier so that CFA would not have a product to sell.

                On the federal level, the right of a labor union to arrange a secondary boycott is limited by section 8(b)(4) of the National Labor Relations Act. Under the act, no labor union may threaten, coerce, or restrain any person engaged in commerce in order to force that person to cease doing business with any other person. Again, the OP was not speaking of a labor strike so your description, while entertaining, is not on point.

  • Orangeone

    Time to eat somewhere else. Chick-fil-A, I hope Chicago was worth losing other parts of the nation, especially after Americans stood up for you!

    • teapartyizzy

      OMG read my comment

      • WordsFailMe

        where does your philosophy lead? Near the restrooms I hope.

        Crawl back in your mama’s bed, troll.

        • teapartyizzy

          I am not a troll. Why is everyone being so ugly. Really Troll. I have another profile I can post with but I just can’t right now.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

            Hey, not “everyone!”

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            Why can’t you? Having too much fun baiting people with this profile?

          • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

            No don’t think it was trolling, but as ST stated cooler heads may start prevailing. I first saw this blow up yesterday mid-afternoon and had more time to digest what is going on.

            Honestly, there is just too much uncertainty. But we do need to remember who are we going to trust, the lying alderman or CFA http://www.ajc.com/news/business/chick-fil-a-makes-clear-who-we-are-in-document/nSGgb/

            • KenInMontana

              Well said.

          • WordsFailMe

            Tizzy–“No wonder the country is going to hell in a hand basket. You people are crazy.”

            Maybe YOU are not a troll but that statement is tantamount to trolling– What was it you meant to say?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Kawasaki/1798183858 Dave Kawasaki

    Thanks, CFA, for turning your back on us. We will not forget.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Wal Mart was told by the Operatives running Detroit that they couldn’t build in Detroit unless they made all kinds of changes.

    Wal Mart said, “We’re not making very many changes. By the way, we want you to provide better police patrols for security.”

    Detroit said, “No.”

    Wal Mart said, “So long, then. Thanks for your time.” No fanfare, just gone.

    Now Detroiters CARPOOL to Canton and other communities to buy stuff. Keepin’ folks, poor, stuck in Detroit, votin’ Democrat is all that it’s about.

    Chick Fil A should have done the same thing, with no fanfare.

    BTW, I’d never eaten at Chick Fil A. After the hoopla died down, I noticed a Chick Fil A nearby. I tried one of their sandwiches. It was dry as could be, the leaf lettuce was quite bitter, and the chicken was overcooked. I don’t even know why folks eat there.

    • WordsFailMe

      If you do, don’t waste you money on the spicy chik burger

    • Reckoner_3

      Good example of how it should have been done.

    • p m

      Thing is, no company would bring negative attention on itself, and the Chicago location was already under consideration when the left attacked the CEO after the interview he gave. That might have been a set-up too. Point being that they may have invested too much in the process to just get the hell out of dodge. CFA were played then, and their supporters were yesterday. We know the left can’t and won’t accept defeat, viz Wisconsin.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Wait! I lied! Inadvertently. My wife reminded me that a long time ago (more than six or 8 years, I believe) there was a Chik Fil A in Ypsilanti. So there was one near enough for me to try a sammich. I may have had one. I just don’t know If I ever did.

      Evidently it wasn’t popular enough to survive at that location very long (it’s “hamburger row,” for sure. You can find two of almost every fast food outlet within the same mile or so of road).

  • Sober_Thinking

    Christians who back down to evil… well, you gotta question there faith a little at least. The plague that the LGBT infestation brings is horrible and an abomination. God hates it and Christians should too. But for Chik-fil-A to pull an Obama and bow to this filth is horrible and makes me very angry.

    In this day and age, we need heroes. An old saying is that we may be the only Christ some people see. So a prominant Christian franchise gives in to illegal corruption and allows the LGBT community to chalk up a victory… further emboldening them and encouraging them to continue to project their misguided and sickening lifestyle. What sort of message does that send?

    They’re here, they’re queer but we don’t have to get used to it. This buckling sends a terrible message and makes it appear that they either love money more than God or fear the world more than God. Honor God first and He will guide your path and deliver you from evil.

    Pray for them to come back to their senses and make a stand for Christ.

    Oh and the wicked despot politician who provoked this deal? Better that he had a millstone tied around his neck and was cast into the ocean… God will not be mocked.

    • teapartyizzy

      It is amazing to see post that are trashing CFA over a report written by people that are trashed all the time about not reporting the news correctly. Quoting politicians that you cant stand. And now you believe the News. That is a FACE PALM.

      No wonder the country is going to hell in a hand basket. You people are crazy.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

        Glad to see you don’t mind that harassing companies until they cave in is just fine for you. We see how you are now.

        This press release is not standing in with their principles. It is a cave-in to Chicago. They should be embarrassed.

        • teapartyizzy

          Have you seen it posted yet? The above release I posted here, Have you seen it yet? Please tell me what is wrong with what I posted. It is the Official CFA release. Please tell me whats wrong with it.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            “Have you seen my post?”
            “Have you seen it?”
            “Please read my post!”
            “OMG YOU HAFTA READ MY POST!!!”
            “PWEEEZE READ MY POST! I’M BEGGING YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!”

            What are you, four?

            • Rshill7

              :-)

      • marketcomp

        Spineless!

        • teapartyizzy

          I’m sure you would post with your real name if the shoe was on the other foot. I have never heard of anyone named marketcomp. That’s a crazy name did you get picked on in school for it? Spineless

          • marketcomp

            LOL! As if teapartyizzy is a real name!

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

              Yep, she’s an urban legend around these parts. People at school would make fun of her name. They would call her “T.P.” for short.

      • Rshill7

        You obviously don’t know the difference between the Washington Times and the Washington Post. Learn that difference.

      • pdxlady
        • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

          Um, no. CFA has changed their position. That means they must have caved in some time.

      • Sober_Thinking

        There’s nothing wrong with what I posted… especially nothing that is significant enough for you to name call me due to my opinion.

        I’m assuming yours is a temporary account used to try and stir up conservatives with a quick drive by of ignorance or something… and then you’ll go back to MSNBC or some other left-leaning site where your insults and tactics are appreciated. Feel free to retire and go back there now.

        Until then, I’ll pray for folks like you who continue to prompt hate and anger.

    • marketcomp

      You are so right Sober_Thinking! So many supported them and stood with them and to see this is very dissappointing. Although it doesn’t say that they will support any gay-marriage groups or agenda either it does present ambiguity by not standing by groups that support traditional marriage. I guess that means when another support chick-fil-A day happens I will not be suppporting it. I wonder what Mike Huckabee thinks about this since he says he was responsible for the support your chick-fil-A day?

      • Rshill7

        There won’t be another day like that one.

      • Sober_Thinking

        Agreed and thank you.

        I too am interested to see what Mike has to say about this. With Scoop’s update CFA had a chance to clear the air a bit but instead, they clouded it even more. I’m sad to see that they caved…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

    duplicate

  • Stehekin912

    This just encourages the bullying from the liberals and gives them confidence to continue their juvenile, violent tactics. Why should they not harrass businesses and individuals when their efforts are so successful? Chick-fil-A, even when we encouraged you to stand by your principles, you “bought the brat his/her toy”, and now the rest of us have to put up with more tantrums.

    • Rshill7

      Right, here’s a cause you cavers can support…pitch in and help the O’ administration apologize to Pakistan. What’s the difference? Both boil down to rewarding bad behavior.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    The bullies (LG community) won. Well, guess Chik-Fil-A figured it best to fold their hand, and I’m not going to second-guess them because I don’t know all that was at stake from their perspective.

  • stage9

    Whenever you appease terrorists you empower them!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

    Whether it’s true or not, this story came out yesterday and the fact that Chick-Fil-La has allowed the national media to tout for 24 hours that they will no longer fund traditional-marriage groups, makes me utterly sick… DOES ANYONE ON OUR SIDE HAVE A SPINE!!

    We will be eating at a new Mr. Bojangles.

    • Joengima

      Until Conservatives are willing to go toe to Toe with these Leftist. And actually beat them at their own game, our side will always lose.

      That’s the lesson here and with the Union battle in WI.

      If we are going to defeat the Left, we need to start playing their game. Because in the past 10 years, things have drastically changed.

  • Joengima

    Sigh, This usually what happens on our side. The left puts up a fight, and mark a day to attack. We put up a fantastic defense, and win the day…but at the end of the war, the Left wins. Why? Cause they don’t stop fighting.

    I’m sorry, but when will we decide to fight back?

    I don’t view all of this as a game. I know the issues are more important, but the fact is, The Left is destroying every tradition everything that we held dear in our lives, and what do we do?

    I’m being serious here, where is our version of ACLU? Where are the Republicans calling for a reform of our Judicial system? (Loved Newt for that BTW)

    You know, we need to start fighting back. A Conservative says something wrong, Left demands they be fired. The Left says something wrong, all we ask is for an Apology.

    I hate stories like this, because it leaves you with the “what’s the point” feeling in your gut.

    I stood in line for 2 hours, and I’m sure the rest of you, has done the same thing. And this is the freaking thanks? This was what we get? If they were going to cave, they should have done so.

    Our sides always caves because the left never yields. That’s how you get tyranny of the Minority.

    Tolerance is a two ways street folks. Discrimination is also. The City of Chicago forced Chick-fil-A to change their beliefs or they are unwelcome in the city.

    Well you know what, if we do nothing and allow this…

    Whose on our side now? What other company will stand up with us? Our list is growing shorter everyday.

    Our culture is being destroyed from within, Tradition one day will be considered a hate word. And nothing will be held sacred or honored anymore.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

      Bravo, joengima.

      Hey, teapartyizzy, are you reading THAT post?

      • teapartyizzy

        Yes I read it and there is nothing else I can say accept for the fact it’s not true. Chick-fil-A has not change what they invest in. We don’t know who donations are being made to this year, it has not been done yet. The ones that got people fired up was 2010. 2011 has not even been released yet. So all this is prob going to fire up again. The Cathy’s believe in and support traditional marriage. That is just the simple truth.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

          If they USED to donate, but don’t donate anymore… it’s called caving.

          • Joengima

            Shouldn’t matter if they caved or not, the fact is, the Left never backs down. If Chick-Fil-A is still standing by Traditional Marriage, then good for them. But I still stand by my original comment. Just exchange CFA with anything Christian and it’ valid.

          • KenInMontana

            Hmm, according to the FRC, they haven’t received a donation from Chik-Fil-A since 2010. If they caved is was long before this flap ever got started.

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

              Thank you, KenInMontana. This was the point I was trying to make. Why did the LGBTers decide to make this public? Could it be because it is a presidential election year and they want their man, El Presidente to be reelected? However, what CFA has done is compound their situation by not being clear on where they stand in respects to the marriage issue and not immediately getting in the LGBTers grill and responding to their blatant lies. They shot themselves in the foot there. Here’s how they should respond: Write large contribution checks to the anti-gay marriage groups and send them overnight mail. You bet the lefties would jump on that right away. That would actually be hilarious. I don’t think CFA will do that and that’s a shame.

    • NoToTyrants

      Thank you for passionate and eloquent post. This is exactly how I feel.

  • GRITSMama
  • barney59

    Chic-Fah-Gays

  • E. Lee Zimmerman

    Beef. It’s what’s for dinner … from now on.

    • poljunkie

      Or in my case, Salad and veggies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OUV5ETK5PYFLHV4UGPO2LLZ2QM Dallylawnman

    Looks like you either have principals or money,I guess everything is for sale now day’s.

  • Coralchristie

    Well…I feel betrayed. Guess there are some people who “check their religion at the door”. Whatever measure of esteem I held for them when they were being attacked is now gone. Too bad.

  • Reckoner_3

    Guess we’re not living in an age where there are Thomas Mores

    Thomas More: For Wales, Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for Wales?

    Not even for Wales, but for a measly restaurant in corrupt Chicago?

    So much for Christian backbone. There should be no apology for doing business in this country and not being “ashamed of it” that you exercise your free speech rights political or non-political.

    Not only is this a display of cowardice in principle, but also, that PR statement about not supporting “public policy or social agendas” is a backhanded statement. You get other businesses with left wing agendas , amazon, etc, in spite of the fact that they’re supposed to be about business….

    In this case, this is not really a case of policy agenda. To reiterate, that the institution of marriage of thousands of years is NOT an agenda.

    It’s called adults pointing out to the perpetual infants of the world, that public policy shouldn’t be based on catering to a bunch of spoiled delusional tyrannical brats i.e. gay leftists.

    The only people more culpable than the homosexual activists, are the heterosexual wimps, all of those moderates, namby pamby people who support gay marriage, when they don’t realize that the only reason they support it, isn’t based on logic, or sociological considerations , but on the sole basis of this: “I don’t want to feel bad and hurt gay people’s feelings. It’s easier to say ‘okay’ because then i won’t be labeled a hater”

  • DebbyX

    That’s a HUGE disappointment! Looks like they really are CHICKEN!

    Business is business I guess.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000679899592 John Bohler

    DON”T BELIEVE IT! This story was spiked by the homosexual lobby to make it look like they won something when they didn’t, SO DON’T FALL FOR IT! http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay-advocates-cook-up-chick-fil-a-fairytale/

    • Reckoner_3

      Doesn’t matter.

      Why even meet with this guy, Moreno. Why give him a microphone.
      Chik Fil A just squandered their vindication by caring what leftists think. By even having contacts , allowed them to lose by perception…

      From Salon

      “In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.” Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups, such as Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage. In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.

      But WinShape didn’t release the same comment to BuzzFeed. In fact, they refused to say anything conclusive, and seemed to lack self-awareness about having an anti-gay stance:

      “We have no agenda, policy or position against anyone. We have a 65-year history of providing hospitality for all people and, as a dedicated family business, serving and valuing everyone regardless of their beliefs or opinions,” he said in a general press statement emailed to BuzzFeed by another Chick-fil-A spokesman, Jerry Johnston, who said the company’s press statement is not new. “The genuine, historical intent of our WinShape Foundation and corporate giving has been to support youth, family and educational programs.”

      http://www.salon.com/2012/09/19/will_chick_fil_a_stop_funding_anti_gay_groups/

      You know what’s annoying? Validating the falsehood that because a group supports not redefining marriage, they hate gays.

      (You would think Chik Fil A naively donated to terrorists and China like slave labor outfits, by mistake, with that “closer look” remark.)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

        MY POINT.

  • poljunkie

    That’s disappointing.

    I mean take a stand and stick with it.

    • Reckoner_3

      I know!

      And it comes after they already had their free speech defended by most people, in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000213966767 John Negron

    What a smack in the face to all true believers in Christ Jesus who supported Chik-Fil-A on it’s Appreciation Day. I mean really, we were supporting Chik-Fil-A because of their bold stance on biblical marriage and free speech. Then, to turn around and do this? Really?

  • Is_Sense_Common

    Here’s what Chick-Fil-A said about their corporate donations:

    http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Media/PDF/who-we-are.pdf

  • maynardb50

    I, for one, will be writing them to see if this is accurate or restricted to a franchisee in Chicago. Either way, they lose my patronage if so. I can fry my own chicken and make a sandwich.

  • GeorgiaPeachConservative
    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Thank you, GeorgiaPeachConservative. So we were being played. I admit I fell for it. I apologize for my previous comments. Joe Moreno was just ripping a page out of El Presidente’s guide to effective lying.

      • Reckoner_3

        I’m still not finding a definitive or straight answer from the PR camp of Chik Fil A. Seems like they want to satisfy both sides…

        Chik fil A was played when they had a correspondence with that Moreno chicago guys. They already lost by letting the press have INK, regardless if Moreno was lying. Why even TALK or dialogue with these bozos??

        Also Washington Times article seems accurate, because I have not heard any denials. It seems like Chik Fil A tried to lay low. I still have not got a real answer from their vague “who we are”

        Each of the statements also seem to be shying away from opposing gay “marriage” stance and more focused on other less bothersome vocabulary…

        I’m not into guessing games and nebulous position taking.

        • 12grace

          The left can’t let that fact that Christians around America support Chick-Fil-A so beware of anything the left says about them.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            But somebody needs to take a STAND.

          • p m

            You are so right, 12grace. Also, being idiots, the left confuses the business with its charitable foundation. As a business, CFA cannot alienate its customers, and in any case, it would not comply with the owner’s Christian beliefs to do so. That has always been very clear. OTH the charitable foundation can do as it wishes with its funds, and it’s no-one’s business. Do we see Ford being boycotted for its support of far-left and anti-semitic organizations through the Ford Foundation – an evil entity if ever there was one?

            This turned out to be a classic case of ‘consider the source, and then confirm its veracity and intent’.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          I do agree that they needed to state exactly what form of marriage they do find acceptable. That leaves the door open for people to assume they also support gay marriage. That also left the door open for the LGBT groups to take advantage of the ambiguity in their policy and so the LGBTers capitalized on that.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/K5AS7PQTDGPXBIWH5R325WCYVQ Chris

            And because the media’s in their back pocket, guess who ended up being the loser?

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

              Indeed. Face palm material.

  • p m

    With this revival of antagonism towards CFA, one asks: Cui bono? Well, the gays won’t be happy with anything less than full-on support. The company won’t be blowing its business by giving that. But it would still get hurt by announcements such as that made by the corrupt lib pol yesterday.

    So, the left, who started this whole thing through its gay army, using classic Alinsky techniques to try and destroy a successful business, seems to think it can stir things up again and score some short-term points. I have a feeling this attempt will also back-fire on them once more is known. Just saying.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      It just goes to show that they have no bounds in regards to scoring their points. They don’t care who they slander and defame. The ends justify the means in their Alinksy-ite view. I know I was duped and they got a knee-jerk reaction from me. Lesson learned. I had a weak moment. I will try to not let it happen again.

      • p m

        We were all duped. I didn’t feel outraged, just disbelief, because it made no moral or business sense. When I saw this Salon article bit: “Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups, such as Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage” I knew something was up – who the hell except the left has the real hate for marriage, and who else is so warped as to refer to the two organizations named as having been classified as ‘hate groups’. Classified by whom? Oh, yeah, the libtards. There had to be a big chunk of reality missing considering the source was a Chicago mob pol.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          I was so enraged at CFA that I wrote a long diatribe here. I removed it, but I’m still angry at CFA because they are not clear about what their stance is and they did not respond to the lefty LGBTers and MSM THE SECOND after the lies were made public. Why they stopped contributing to anti-gay marriage groups is a mystery to me, unless they aren’t contributing because of this:

          “As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.”

          They are not going against policy by continuing to contribute to Focus on the Family and the NOM. The lefties are the ones who have their knickers in a twist because they see this as supporting attacks against the LGBTers, which couldn’t be farther from the truth. Besides, has anybody visited the LGBT sites? Read what’s on their sites, if you can. The hate-filled rhetoric that is on those sites against Christians and people who don’t agree with them is beyond the pale. I wonder what “hate” groups they contribute to. I believe the list would be a long one.

  • 12grace

    ‘Gay’ advocates cook up Chick-fil-A fairytale
    The REAL story behind fowl flap over marriage

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay-advocates-cook-up-chick-fil-a-fairytale/

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      So Moreno was basically trying to damage Chik-Fil-A’s standing with conservatives by essentially putting words in their mouths. I admit I fell for a well-crafted leftist lie.

      • 12grace

        That’s correct. Don’t feel bad Chris, we have to be on our guard all the time, now.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          Yep. Trust but verify.

      • Reckoner_3

        Chik Fil A is just a business. If their product is good enough, it’s not worth having to worry about taking a side as if its a politician’s career or public office ‘s standing, LOL….

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          Yes, they are the masters of their own destiny.

    • KenInMontana

      Now, there is a reason to get upset.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DS3G37AYWO5ZLWLN3HFKGVK37Q IMaTelaU

    alternative lifestylers are the hateful ones. Don’t like cfla don’t go. if a AL want to open a business i just won’t go. but they are the bullies! and they aren’t funny. well sometimes.lol.

    • 12grace

      Yes, many of them preach tolerance but they don’t offer it to Christians or any other groups that disagree with their lifestyle.

  • gothicreader

    ” I realize they need to expand and it’s not their fault for the persecution they’ve endured.” They should have endured and not caved in. There isn’t any excuse.

    Christ endured. Why can’t we?

    • 12grace

      No, Chick-Fil-A did not cave in, they are being set up.

  • Reckoner_3

    Agree. That’s the wrong mindset…..

  • Susanna958
  • keyesforpres

    Chic-fil-A hadn’t donated since 2010.

    This aritcle explains it.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gay-advocates-cook-up-chick-fil-a-fairytale/

    • Reckoner_3

      i am getting a hint of “spin” and damage control from these so called articles…(World Net Daily for instance isn’t exactly objective)

      But he admitted that the issue of corporate donations was a nonstarter from the beginning. “I corroborated what they told me back in January; that donations to anti-gay groups … have ceased.”

      Chk Fil A lost by giving this Moreno jerk, ink to print…he takes credit that chik fil a put in writing that they don’t discriminate against blah blah….

      Some context Before 2012, in 2010, Chik Fil A got into trouble on campuses for its gay marriage stance, it just was more locally reported and didn’t become nationally focused on until this year. (Probably because it suited the leftist media now that Obama officially supported. )

      Why did Chik Fil A have to inform them that they haven’t donated in two years? in the first place…

      They got played by Moreno. Why even go to that territory? and give him information to please him etc.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

        I agree. They just gave more ammunition to that lying sack Moreno to use against them. Their PR group doesn’t seem to be that bright. They dropped the ball big time, I mean fumble on their own 1 yard line type of ball dropping.

      • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

        WND is not objective and the MSM is? The point is R3 who is more believable, Politico which broke it quoting the alderman and LGBT group or CFA? Would it make more sense that CFA got played so as to damage them further now with conservatives or are they really willing to give up everything for a single opening in this lame district.

        You are right that CFA was late to the game on the PR front but can we give them a bit of slack that they are just not use to the political aspects of all of this?

  • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

    Hmmm, it is good to know. I was hoping I will be able to eat my chicken in good faith :-)))

    Have passed the word along just as with everything else. Still, it would have been better for CFA to get ahead of this story or be a bit quicker on the feet per se :-))

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      They should have. It makes it look like they agreed with the LGBTers and because they didn’t issue a rebuttal in a rapid fashion, they are needlessly having to effect damage control. I fear it is too late for them to completely repair the damage done. Dummkopfs.

      • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

        Agreed now if we can just get the other Chris to work through it.

  • Optimus_Maximus

    Say it ain’t so, Joe!

    Despicable politician, sad to see them cave. I’m with the author, they would’ve been better appreciated by the general public to sue, but the reality is that government legal funds are bottemless, and private equity company funds are not.

    We are looking at the road the majority of the country is on…we will all reach a Chicago-type bureaucracy situation soon enough, if we do not start turning the ship of state around this November.

    This is truly the road to serfdom, and we continue down it apace.

    We all need to re-double our efforts to fight it.

  • jhcapron

    Disappointing!

  • bartman44

    Whatever happened to “principle”? Can’t trust allegiance to principle over profit — and this isn’t a case of starvation or even stockholder pressure. I had been to Chick-Fil-A about 3 times in my life before the nation showed their support for them, and I was one of them. Guess my tally will stop at 4.

  • 12grace

    Chick-fil-A Sets the Record Straight
    by Karla Dial

    In response to media reports that Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop making charitable donations to groups like Focus on the Family, the company today released a statement to set the record straight.

    Contrary to reports first made by the gay-activist group The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA) on Tuesday and later picked up by mainstream media outlets, Chick-fil-A and its charitable-giving arm, the WinShape Foundation, did not agree to stop making donations to groups that support the biblical definition of marriage in exchange for being allowed to open a franchise in Chicago.

    “For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized,” executives said in today’s statement. “And while our sincere intent has been to remain out of this political and social debate, events from Chicago this week have once again resulted in questions around our giving. For that reason, we want to provide some context and clarity around who we are, what we believe and our priorities in relation to corporate giving.

    “A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

    “As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.”

    According to a TCRA press release issued Tuesday, “In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.”
    That was the stipulation gay activists, led by Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, made earlier this summer, after Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy said in interviews that he and his family are “guilty as charged” of holding biblical views on marriage. Moreno vowed to block the construction of the franchise unless the company changed its beliefs and stopped supporting “hate groups.” Moreno relented to the construction this week, spinning Chick-fil-A’s statement as a victory for his side — despite the fact that it was made before he denied the permit.

    Moreover, many news agencies reported that Chick-fil-A had specifically agreed not to give money to Focus on the Family or the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). NOM said Wednesday it has never received money from the foundation. Focus on the Family has.
    Some people were quick to criticize the 66-year-old chicken chain for “caving” to political pressure. Focus on the Family President Jim Daly said that’s not what happened.

    “Dan and Bubba Cathy are my Christian brothers and good friends. They and their company have long shared Focus on the Family’s commitment to helping build strong and thriving families — and they have in no way deviated from that deeply held and biblically inspired passion while working with the city of Chicago to open Chick-fil-A restaurants there,” Daly said.
    “I feel bad the Cathys are having once again to endure media accounts mischaracterizing their values and charitable efforts — and, unfortunately, I know how they feel. Focus on the Family has for 35 years been dedicated to saving and strengthening marriages, helping couples raise happy, resilient kids and encouraging and empowering men and women to advocate for God’s truth with Christ’s heart.

    And still, in stories like some of those about Chick-fil-A’s efforts to expand in Chicago, we are described as being ‘hateful’ toward certain groups of people.
    “How is an organization that helps save one marriage every six minutes and helps parents navigate through a crisis involving their children every 90 seconds deemed ‘anti’ anything but ‘anti-family breakdown’?” he concluded. “That’s a question we would hope the media begins to ask with more regularity of those who disagree with us and with Chick-fil-A for bringing our Christian values to bear on the work we do in the public square.”

    FOR MORE INFORMATION
    Read Chick-fil-A’s statement of corporate identity and values.
    http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/09/20/chick-fil-a-sets-the-record-straight-2/

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      You know 12grace, they should have issued a counter-statement as soon as the LGBTers released their sewage. They didn’t and now they are paying for their procrastination, in my opinion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4D2MGFPZ3JPE3YEWUW4EP2YGBQ Tim-CA

    I’ve now gone from being extremely proud of this Company to extremely dissapointed.

    From Champions of the Constritution to just another group of gutless appeasers who have allowed their rights to be trampled.

    You’ve lost my respect.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HO5ZYKXQVLNQ5ZPAOYB3ZZURHU oscar

    And, as said, after all the support they received from us conservatives, Chick-fil-A caved (and did so, in such a cowardly fashion, hoping no one would notice). I hope they realize they have created a very slippery slope, with the climate they have now created, for all concerned. Not to mention, made it much more difficult for any Christian business that comes behind them, to take a principaled stand.
    Thanks for giving in to those hostage takers, CFA. I too, was mislead to believe you had a spine. Just as it would be better for a believer, if he is not going to obey the traffic laws or show love and respect in his driving habits, not to put a fish on his car, it would have been a hundred times better for you to never have taken a pro-marriage position, if you were just going to turn around and become the poster child for the success of bullying in America! Just as I applauded you and rooted for your business success before, I hope you pay a heavy price in profits for your lack of consistency and moral cowardice. After everything we hoped for you, you are simply another business that puts profit over principle. We thought you were different.
    “God put the reputation of His own Son in our hands. Only insiders can betray Christ.”

  • teapartyizzy

    Some people were quick to criticize the 66-year-old chicken chain for “caving” to political pressure. Focus on the Family President Jim Daly said that’s not what happened.

    “Dan and Bubba Cathy are my Christian brothers and good friends. They and their company have long shared Focus on the Family’s commitment to helping build strong and thriving families — and they have in no way deviated from that deeply held and biblically inspired passion while working with the city of Chicago to open Chick-fil-A restaurants there,” Daly said.

    “I feel bad the Cathys are having once again to endure media accounts mischaracterizing their values and charitable efforts — and, unfortunately, I know how they feel. Focus on the Family has for 35 years been dedicated to saving and strengthening marriages, helping couples raise happy, resilient kids and encouraging and empowering men and women to advocate for God’s truth with Christ’s heart. And still, in stories like some of those about Chick-fil-A’s efforts to expand in Chicago, we are described as being ‘hateful’ toward certain groups of people.

    “How is an organization that helps save one marriage every six minutes and helps parents navigate through a crisis involving their children every 90 seconds deemed ‘anti’ anything but ‘anti-family breakdown’?” he concluded. “That’s a question we would hope the media begins to ask with more regularity of those who disagree with us and with Chick-fil-A for bringing our Christian values to bear on the work we do in the public square.”

  • kssturgis62

    I am going to say to WAIT. This is JUST an LGBT group saying this. WE do NOT know the Whole Story. The ONLY thing they are saying is that they won’t fund, that doesnt’ mean they changed their stance on what Marriage is.

    They wanted to be in Chicago, i find it shameful as a christian you would bend on God’s word if that happened. It is shameful.

    But we don’t know what has happened because only GAY groups have said anything.

    I am praying, and waiting, and I pray the Lord shows me that they are standing strong.

    • BOPOS

      Me too, because I love those milkshakes. Otherwise I will not go there, not for the social issue but for backing down from what they believe. Allowing themselves to be bullied.

  • BOPOS

    Move the darn location. It’s not like that one store was going to make or break the franchise. Take it to a community that welcomes a Chic-fil-A. Let that thug-ish neighborhood put up a bath house.

    • rich wojcik

      bath house, you say?……they could have a guest/visitor from WH… ;)

      • crosshr

        yep, frequent by Manual and O. Cuban cigars were free, so were the steam bath and towels

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

        LMAO!!!

    • crosshr

      right on BOPOS, relocate ! didn’y Lot pitch his tent toward Sodom and Gomorah for opportunity reason for his family and folks for their future. Abraham pitched his tent toward the hills looking for God to be his all and everything, both great and small ! that pretty much cover our class for tonight folks !

      Oh , and a reminder, I may fail you, your father, mother, sister ,pastor, husband, chick fil A, wife, president, congress may fail you also, JESUS NEVER WILL !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      I wasn’t going to type this, but I will now. I know Chik-Fil-A won’t do this because it would mean loss of profit (maybe not so much profit, but a loss nonetheless): Close ALL Chik-Fil-A locations in Chicago. I don’t know about the suburbs, but just Chicago proper. Then issue a statement that unless Chicago changes it’s policies of hate and intolerance against conservative organizations and Christians, they will not get a Chik-Fil-A in their city ever again. I have a feeling that most people living there will not be upset, but the rest who would be upset will have to either eat somewhere else or drive to a place that has a Chik-Fil-A. They could then thank Dead Fish Emanuel for that by sending letters, sending E-mails, and making phone calls to the office of the good mayor on a daily basis.

  • http://twitter.com/Aggiemom07 Loved First 1Jn 4:19

    I just won’t say anything at all except goodbye Chick-fil-A!

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      1Jn 4:19,

      Why not show a little love here and work through all of the information. Was CFA late on the scene allowing others to define them, yes. Does this make them brutes and turncoats? Not necessarily.

      If the Lord is patient with us, should we not at least try to return the favor to others especially those of Faith!

  • teapartyizzy

    I am amazed and hurt by some of the comments here. I can not believe it.

    Some are trolls stoking the fire
    Some are “the 18 hours was to slow” God forbid they do their homework and reply.
    Some believe the lieing liberals over Chick-fil-A and now Focus on the

    So sad.

    I stand with the Cathy’s. I stand with Chick-fil-A. I am Chick-fil-A.

  • joyfulgiver

    I just received this from Citizen Link – Statement from Chick-fil-A to “Set the Record Straight”

    Chick-fil-A Sets the Record Straight
    by Karla Dial
    In response to media reports that Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop making charitable donations to groups like Focus on the Family, the company today released a statement to set the record straight.

    Contrary to reports first made by the gay-activist group The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA) on Tuesday and later picked up by mainstream media outlets, Chick-fil-A and its charitable-giving arm, the WinShape Foundation, did not agree to stop making donations to groups that support the biblical definition of marriage in exchange for being allowed to open a franchise in Chicago.

    “For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized,” executives said in today’s statement. “And while our sincere intent has been to remain out of this political and social debate, events from Chicago this week have once again resulted in questions around our giving. For that reason, we want to provide some context and clarity around who we are, what we believe and our priorities in relation to corporate giving.

    “A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

    “As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.”

    According to a TCRA press release issued Tuesday, “In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.”

    That was the stipulation gay activists, led by Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, made earlier this summer, after Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy said in interviews that he and his family are “guilty as charged” of holding biblical views on marriage. Moreno vowed to block the construction of the franchise unless the company changed its beliefs and stopped supporting “hate groups.” Moreno relented to the construction this week, spinning Chick-fil-A’s statement as a victory for his side — despite the fact that it was made before he denied the permit.

    Moreover, many news agencies reported that Chick-fil-A had specifically agreed not to give money to Focus on the Family or the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). NOM said Wednesday it has never received money from the foundation. Focus on the Family has.

    Some people were quick to criticize the 66-year-old chicken chain for “caving” to political pressure. Focus on the Family President Jim Daly said that’s not what happened.

    “Dan and Bubba Cathy are my Christian brothers and good friends. They and their company have long shared Focus on the Family’s commitment to helping build strong and thriving families — and they have in no way deviated from that deeply held and biblically inspired passion while working with the city of Chicago to open Chick-fil-A restaurants there,” Daly said.

    “I feel bad the Cathys are having once again to endure media accounts mischaracterizing their values and charitable efforts — and, unfortunately, I know how they feel. Focus on the Family has for 35 years been dedicated to saving and strengthening marriages, helping couples raise happy, resilient kids and encouraging and empowering men and women to advocate for God’s truth with Christ’s heart. And still, in stories like some of those about Chick-fil-A’s efforts to expand in Chicago, we are described as being ‘hateful’ toward certain groups of people.

    “How is an organization that helps save one marriage every six minutes and helps parents navigate through a crisis involving their children every 90 seconds deemed ‘anti’ anything but ‘anti-family breakdown’?” he concluded. “That’s a question we would hope the media begins to ask with more regularity of those who disagree with us and with Chick-fil-A for bringing our Christian values to bear on the work we do in the public square.”

    FOR MORE INFORMATION
    Read Chick-fil-A’s statement of corporate identity and values.

  • Emma_Goldman

    Yes! I can finally go back to Chik-fil-a again! Moral of the story? The left always win. We always win, even something as small as a chicken sandwich, we win. And we didn’t even have to stand in line for our sandwich. ;)

    • stage9

      “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

      You’re being set-up. And great will be your fall.

    • stage9

      Some people were quick to criticize the 66-year-old chicken chain for “caving” to political pressure. Focus on the Family President Jim Daly said that’s not what happened.

      “Dan and Bubba Cathy are my Christian brothers and good friends. They and their company have long shared Focus on the Family’s commitment to helping build strong and thriving families — and they have in no way deviated from that deeply held and biblically inspired passion while working with the city of Chicago to open Chick-fil-A restaurants there,” Daly said.

    • joyfulgiver

      Emma – I don’t think there are winners or losers, here. You have ALWAYS been welcome at CFA! ALWAYS! The only time the issue came up was when the “left” tried to destroy a FAMILY business that believes in godly principles, morality and treating ALL people with respect. This company did NOT disrespect anyone, it was the media that used their power to try to bring them down.

      Nothing wrong with believing in Godly principles, I believe we are still in AMERICA! Praying you will see the Light! God bless you.

      • Emma_Goldman

        Gays have not been welcome, which means I have friends and family I cannot comfortably eat with at CFA. The issue was not pro-religious groups, but anti-gay groups. I am sure if McDonalds started giving money to anti-Christian groups, there would be a controversy. Anyway, I wasn’t that Left groups wanted to shut CFA down, we just didn’t want to give money to a business who in turn gave money to organizations who were anti-gay, and anti marriage equality. When they stopped that, we could eat there again (although it appears they did not really stop, so the boycott is back on). Nothing wrong with Godly principles. However, my interpretation of the teachings of Jesus is inclusion of everyone, love to all. Alternative interpretations are possible, I guess, but that person would be a willfully crappy Christian. LVX.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

          Apparently, you have had more than one bad experience with gays and/or lesbians you are associated with being turned away at the door, being denied jobs, or not being served at Chik-Fil-A establishments. This is America and it’s your right to spend your money and comfortably eat elsewhere. I find it quite telling about the LGBT groups who resort to lies, distortions, misrepresentations, smears, bullying tactics, and boycotts to effect their brand of change and perpetuate their views upon those who do not think and/or believe as they do. They fall under the same protections as all Americans do, under law. However, as all other special interest and social justice groups do, they want special dispensation. What is to be said about agnostics or atheists who don’t agree with gay marriage issues? Do you think Biblical principles guide them through their daily lives? What is their reason for not agreeing? What is to be said about Islam, which seems to be the left’s religion of choice these days? They do not condone homosexuality. The current issue with Chik-Fil-A from the beginning does not have to do with them contributing to so-called “hate” groups. The issue is that they espouse their beliefs, which they claim, happen to be Christian. However, this is a side issue. The main issue was that the majority of the LGBT community will be voting for Obama, especially after he announced he is for gay marriage, even though he was previously against it. What they did with Chik-Fil-A was distract people from focusing on his failed presidency, his empty promises, and the stagnating economy, which he has had claim to since June of 2009 when economic “recovery” began.

          • Emma_Goldman

            Marriage is a right straight Americans have. To ask for it is not a special dispensation. It is an American principle. More and more, I find myself regretful that the rapture did not snatch you people off this planet. And finally, why do you assume I am not LGBT, and am therefore giving you this information first hand?

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

              You are quick to take offense. I never assumed that you were or were not LGBT. I’m going by what you said about gays not being welcome at CFA, which lead me to believe you had witnessed it happening or have first-hand knowledge of it occurring. In regards to my special dispensation comment, the LGBT community fall under the same protections as every other American citizen. However, special dispensation is what they want in the churches because due to pressure exerted on them by gay activists and social justice groups, some churches have gone against what was considered their Biblical principles. As a result, they have allowed gays and lesbians to serve as members of their congregations and even as members of clergy or whatever hierarchical system they have in place. The majority of the American citizenry view marriage as being the union of one man and one woman. Whatever their religious beliefs are or are not, that is how they view marriage. The LGBT community wants to be exempt from that established view by effecting that exemption by way of the country’s legal system. The federal government left it to the states to determine what to do in regards to gay marriage. A few have already legalized it. The majority of the people in California voted on the gay marriage issue TWICE, only to be preempted by the courts. So gays and lesbians are allowed to have it their way in the states that legalized gay marriage, but when those who don’t hold to their view on marriage in another state enforce that view by way of the voting booth, that’s wrong and those “Christian” voters are homophobic bigots. Yeah, whatever. However, without getting off-topic too much, CFA has the right to contribute funds to whomever they wish. By the same token, the LGBTers have the right to not spend their money in any of their restaurants.

          • Emma_Goldman

            Correction, is NOT a special dispensation.

          • Emma_Goldman

            And while we’re at it, how could a boycott be lumped with lies and distortions? A boycott just means to refuse to buy goods as protests. That’s allowable in Free Markets, and a legitimate form of social activism. Just like your support day was. I saw all of you with your big giant guts and waddling fat children, waiting in line on the Gay-bashing CFA support day. I’m going to leave it at that and leave, because I know this post will bug you more than any other. Feel free to reply as you like, and remember to super-size.

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

              What was the boycott of CFA based on? If not lies, the views of the Cathy family were distorted to fit the narrative that since they contribute to anti-gay “hate” groups, they hate gays and therefore must discriminate against them. You said and I quote:

              “Gays have not been welcome, which means I have friends and family I cannot comfortably eat with at CFA.”

              Nothing in the policy that CFA has made public would indicate that they actively encourage or approve of discrimination against gays, lesbians, or any other person. If that were the case, they would have every government anti-discrimination agency investigating their executives, their management, their hiring practices, employee training, store policy, and so forth and so on. So far, nothing of significance has been found, since the MSM would definitely make that breaking news and spend days reporting on it.

              By the way, your stereotyping comments and assumptions only prove you to be petty, immature, and irrational. It was nice to debate with you, but if you choose to resort to insults and ad hominem attacks, I will not entertain further comments from you.

              • Emma_Goldman

                Contributing to anti-gay hate groups does indeed indicate you hate gays. And an American is free to boycott air if they feel like it, and give no reason for it. “If..then they would have” is easily the flimsiest excuse for an argument I’ve ever seen. Might want to flip through your Socratic method (if that’s not too much of an ad hominem suggestion). Point of fact, I never heard any CFA stuff through the “MSM.” I heard it, frankly through various left wing mailing lists and websites. Since so many of us have liberal arts backgrounds, our information network is pretty amazing. I do understand your support day was not a boycott. It was in fact…uh…a support day? As I said? Anyway, see you in Obama’s America, 2013. And, goodbye, since you will not entertain further comments from me. I had said I would stop trolling you fine people as soon as you stopped responding, but I guess you can’t help yourself. I’ll save you from yourselves and de-troll myself. Hey, did you see the new Romney tax return that just came out? His tax rate was under 15%. Criminal.

                • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

                  You didn’t attack me with insults and I saw no ad hominem attack, so I’ll respond. You forgot the Platonic method as well, since Socrates referenced his dialogues quite frequently. I didn’t contribute to any “hate” group to my knowledge, CFA did. If you have a TV, you could have watched the CFA controversy being reported on CNN, NBC, Fox News, ABC, and MSNBC for starters. Romney’s tax returns is another topic that will be entertained on TRS, to be sure.

  • stage9

    Corporate terrorism is the wave of the future for liberals and has been used VERY successfully in the past.

    I know for a fact that homosexuals have corporate hit lists of those companies they’ve targeted. Companies are told to either endorse their perversion or face public scrutiny. They have lists that grade companies based upon their level of support of homosexuality.

    They specifically chose the most visible and lucrative companies in the country.

    This is where Christian persecution will come from in the future. If you don’t endorse the culturally accepted perversion of the day, whatever that might be; if you stand opposed to these deviant lifestyles, your business will be targeted and you will be publicly ostracized.

    Secularists have done it with science, history and now sexuality.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      good insight. it is good to know that with instant social media it is not going to be as easy for them. This may have been a test run and I can see a mix bag of results. We have been warned.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Lest we forget, here is one example of the kindness and compassion shown by a gay rights activist at the FRC “hate” group’s office in Washington, D.C.:

      http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/17/religious-liberty-hate-and-every-american-rights/

      The person who shot the security guard is not representative of the entire LGBT community, I’m sure. However, his hate (no quotes this time) was evident by his actions. Many, not all LGBT groups use hate to combat hate. How many groups that conservatives and Christians view as hate groups do leftists and LGBT supporters contribute to? Yet it is not at all offensive to most of them when conservatives and Christians are subject to hateful words and deeds. I assert that they are what we know they are and that is a bunch of hypocrites who want to eliminate, even destroy those with views opposite of theirs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LeeBDixon Lee B Dixon

    “Chick-fil-A and its charitable-giving arm, the WinShape Foundation, did not agree to stop making donations to groups that support the biblical definition of marriage in exchange for being allowed to open a franchise in Chicago.” http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/09/20/chick-fil-a-sets-the-record-straight-2/

  • loriannringold

    Oh I am so dissapointed in Chick-Fil-A. I was a supporter during the last controversy. Now I will never eat at that restaurant chain again. I believe they were bullied into submission. But, I also thought they had more backbone than that.
    Homosexuality is against our heavenly father and if anyone disagrees, so what. That is my opinion, and in America I still have that right to express my opinion. At least until Obama steals the election and then he will find this post I submitted and, lets just say, show me the error of my ways. Bull sh@!#+_).
    Come and get me. Lesbian and homo is wrong no matter how you try to spin it, Obama. I will not submit, I will not give in, I will not give up!!! Glory be to God. The only true living God, Jehovah all mighty. I love our Lord, and I love the United States of America and if anyone disagrees with me, well they can KISS MY A@#A$>.

    Lori Ann Ringold
    Proud Army Wife

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      There is now word out that CFA may have been set up for this. We may need to wait and let the dust settle on this one. For the most part, citizenlink and WND have reports that conflict with what the MSM is claiming.

      • stage9

        This is how propagandists work. The accusation does NOT actually have to BE TRUE in order to posit the insinuation.

        Because we in the West live by the 24 hour news cycle, which causes us to develop very short attention spans, radical propagandists have figured out that they can actually use that short snippet of time in order to do a PSA blast.

        The “blast” is meant to cause controversy and uproar over a particular subject. In this case alleged “hatred towards homosexuals”. The idea is to cause a firestorm that reflects negatively on the group that’s targeted.

        By the time the truth comes out that the “blast” was false, people’s interests have moved on to something else. Usually, what that means is that the TRUTH is either buried by the media or ignored altogether.

        This happened yesterday with a story that claimed that a Harvard Professor had discovered a papyrus that had claimed to quote Jesus Christ expressing affection for “his wife”. the front page news on most websites were GLARING with the words “WAS JESUS CHRIST’S MARRIAGE COVERED UP?” or some close facsimile to that.

        Come to find out, 24 hours later, other experts came out and claimed the papyrus was a fake! But that story was buried.

        In the scientific field this happens CONSTANTLY! Evolutionists discover a “missing link”. News outlets all over the world blast the story out, but a few days/weeks later you’ll find out that it was all just a bunch of nothing. There was no “missing link” at all. But by then, it doesn’t matter. the news blast served its purpose. To reinforce in people’s mind the meme that science trumps faith.

        Homosexuals have jumped on this bandwagon as well, because it works. Lies always work for a season, at least until you end up like a Hitler or a Mussolini or a Ceauşescu.

        • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

          And the evidence is in the pudding just look through this thread. We quickly believe the alderman and the MSM than CFA.

          • stage9

            It’s human nature my friend. It’s a Burger King slogan: “My way right away.” I want the news quick, hold the facts.

            • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

              It is the same way conservatives got snookered for Romeny. We know that the MSM only speaks with the spin it wants and yet we allow them to take us for a ride, over and over again!

              • stage9

                We have to get organized. I’m hoping this so-called “Conservative Conference” occurring after the elections will be the genesis of that.

                • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

                  Let’s hope so for the country will not survive another four years, period.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

            Then why hasn’t Chick-fil-A denied their claims?

            • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

              Why did Lance Armstrong give up the fight?

              The thing is we just do not know the whole story and it would seem we are stuck with whom to give the benefit of the doubt to, the LGBT crowd or the CFA which has operated under Christian principles since its founding. It sounds from the WND report that the alderman just made stuff up out of thin air causing a ruckus over nothing.

              We ought not to forget that the comment was made by a private citizen not the president of the company during the interview. Context is king.

              I will lean towards CFA until we have something more concrete out there.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/OOKK3KBK7M2DX5OKOV7ODZ3QTA Jay

                Armstrong finally got caught. Big difference.

                • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

                  You proved my point! There is NO evidence that he did anything wrong. There was waged a PR war against the man just because! Again, it was all hyped up and he could not take it any more!

                  He got tired of having to prove his innocence when in fact we use to believe that a person was innocent before proven guilty. Again, he passed every single test even those administered after he retired.

        • p m

          Another great post, stage9. Thank you.

          • stage9

            I’ll try and find those hit lists I refer to below….It’s been several years since I’ve seen them. They’re buried somewhere in my catalog of facts…

            • p m

              Thanks again, Stage9, for going to the trouble of finding these links for us. Very much appreciated – the targeting of children is what gets my goat the most – especially given that it now has the imprimatur of Western governments. Apalling.

        • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

          Excellently said stage9

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

    You’re absolutely right, Scoop, this is not a denial about their meeting with a leftist politician and bowing to his pro-homosexual demands.

    Well, my family and I are done with Chick-Fil-A.

  • loriannringold

    Hi PuritanD71
    Thank you so much for the update. I am going to do a search, along with the website you have given, WND is great. I visit everyday. I will go check it out. Once again, thank you proud patriot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • p m

      Good for you, loriann.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      And I will pray for your husband and others as they continue to serve our country.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      God bless you and your family.

  • marketcomp

    Typical tactics of the left. They make an annoucement hype the message using the media to put pressure on an organization to respond. Homosexual organizations did the same thing with the boy scouts but they didn’t succeed there either. But, they never give up!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

    From HotAir.com…

    posted at 9:39 pm on September 19, 2012 by Allahpundit

    I’d like to think they took my advice and made a totally empty promise knowing that there’s not much he can do to punish them if they break it. But I don’t. I assume this is on the level, and further assume that it’s a business decision driven not so much by their desire to open a new franchise in Chicago as their desire to forfeit their status as a national political lightning rod.

    Still depressing to see them cave, though, and I say that as someone who supports gay marriage. Letting this cretin bully them into withholding money from their favorite political causes as a condition of doing business sets a terrible precedent. But oh well. Note to red-staters: Feel free to start making zoning permits contingent on local liberal business-owners taking a solemn vow not to give money to the left anymore.

    As a result of the negotiations, Mr. Moreno received a letter signed by John E. Featherston Jr., a senior director of real estate for Chick-fil-A, stating, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”

    Mr. Moreno said in an interview Wednesday that he believes the company will stop “using money to fund groups that have antigay causes. They have committed in writing they will not do that.”

    He said company executives showed him records of its charitable giving for the year that does not include groups such as Focus on the Family, Exodus International or other groups that oppose marriage equality or have fought against the expansion of gay rights…

    Chick-fil-A, which has more than $4 billion in annual sales, issued a statement on Wednesday that echoed one it produced in July, saying that “going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

    Between 2008 and 2010, Chick-fil-A’s foundation gave more than $3 million to groups opposed to same-sex marriage. Denying someone a permit due to his opinions is blatant viewpoint discrimination and violates the First Amendment, but as I said, I think Chick-fil-A simply wants off this political merry-go-round. If they sued, they’d probably win, but it might take years to resolve and in the meantime they’d be on the hot seat every time a new skirmish over SSM broke out. I think they just want to be done with this. If the Cathy family wants to continue to donate to social conservative groups, they’ll find another outlet than the WinShape Foundation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H7FEKYRPO27DV3U5SCOION6M7U Chris

    Don’t be disappointed… They are a business in a nation split in half.
    They can’t grow their business by alienating half the nation.
    We can’t win hearts and minds by boycotting or buycotting any business.
    We need to try and win people with honesty and integrity on a person-to-person level.

    • Erom Nodd

      “They can’t grow their business by alienating half the nation.”

      Sure they could.

      First, 1/2 of the nation isn’t causing CFA’s problems here. Second, even if it were 1/2, that half would not care if CFA folded or not, as long as it first openly support men sodomizing other men and give their money to prove it. What happened to CFA and all the jobs it provides after that, they could not care less.

      So in that sense, they could very well survive AND THRIVE if they just took the stand that says something to the effect of, “homosexuals are welcome to eat and work at our restaurants but we stand adamantly against homosexuality and will in no way support the homosexual agenda.”

      If they came out with THAT statement, the business rush they had some weeks ago would be nothing in comparison to the flood of customers that would descend upon them

  • stage9

    Don’t forget folks, you can find out what’s going on in the twisted world of homosexual activism here: http://www.massresistance.org/

    Warning, some of this will turn your stomach.

    • p m

      Thanks again – read a lot at this site when MR was running in the POTUS primaries. Disgusting stuff – Kevin Jennings and ilk. Ugh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.hedrick Bruce Allen Hedrick

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/09/gay-advocates-cook-up-chick-fil-a-fairytale/
    You just might end up with a retraction. I am relying on finding the truth here!

  • http://onthemark1.blogspot.com/ On The Mark

    Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas.

    This is their political and social agenda.

    Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

    You can’t have it both ways. You cannot continue to focus on “programs that … strengthen families and enrich marriagees” without supporting a political and social agenda.

  • http://teejaw.com/ TeeJaw

    As soon as I saw the response was 4 paragraphs long I knew it was going to be a load of bull.

  • http://teejaw.com/ TeeJaw

    Real marriage wasn’t political until a tiny minority decided it had to be fundamentally changed from what is has been for a few thousand years. A solid majority in every state that has allowed its citizens to vote on the matter have said they don’t think it’s political, they think it’s traditional.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      Don’t tell that to a person I debated with on this site, who believes marriage is not a Biblical principle, but an American principle and therefore, gays and lesbians should be allowed to get legally married. I’m summarizing here, but that was basically the viewpoint presented.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

        Correction. Marriage is a straight American’s right. Gay and lesbian American should have the same right or something to that effect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U5POSLP4TXZU7ZFDXRBVY3MA5M J S

    I went to see a specialist in Chicago. I was early and it was lunch time. My wife and I see a sign for chicken across the street. We walk in and the whole inside was bullet proof glass and just a slit to pay with a locking BP door to give you your food. It was really strange and uncomfortable we made our order to go. We should have turned right around and left.

    I do not want anything to do with Chicago and avoid it like the plague.

    I would have sued the alderman and he should have been pressured to resign. Where are the Conservative Liberty, Law and Justice lawyers to protect us?

    We just sit back and take it every time.

    We will regret taking “turning the other cheek” to literally very soon.

    • p m

      Sounds very frightening and intimidating, JS.
      Agree about turning the other cheek – Jesus didn’t do that in the Temple, did he? Or anywhere he found that His Father had been superseded. There is a Righteous God, and we show our hubris when we forget Him. Turning the other cheek is not submission, but courage. We need to remember that and not assume it’s just an easy way to do nothing.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      I had the same experience at a Coney Island on Eight Mile road in Detroit several years ago. All of the workers’ area was behind thick plexiglass. You don’t really feel the least bit safe in the dining room in that environment. I kept looking all around, expecting thugs to walk in anytime. I think that was when I decided the next time I go to Detroit, I go armed.

      Which was a really bad decision. And I’m sorry I made it.

      The correct decision is to always be armed.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    OK, so 200 or so comments later. I have a few things to say now that I’ve read all the comments. First of all. We are Christians. Or for the most part those who have spoken their minds here are Christian. I jumped the gun. I stand by, waiting for the whole story to come out. I still stand by my own comment, although, I did jump on Chick Fil A before hearing more, and for that I do apologize.
    Now, being that most of us here are Christians, I think we need to remember, that no one is perfect- and especially someone who has hundreds of thousands of employees is perfect, no matter how Christian they are. I’ve been severely disappointed by Christians before, and I will be again, I’m sure- just as I’ve disappointed folks. It shouldn’t mean that we totally give up (boycott) a company who is still displaying Christian values. If this story is true, we have to do as KeninMontana, and Puritan and a few others suggested. We need to think of all angles- not just our bruised feelings. There are many people who will get jobs out of this company opening in this area, and for someone who has known WAY too much unemployment for a lifetime, I’m glad for those who will get the opportunity to work for a great company.
    So, I guess what it all boils down to, and what we need to focus on, is what the leftist/progressive/marxist/socialist party has done to this beautiful country. They have basically ordered a corporation to be accountable for whom they donate to.
    What other corporations have had outside groups tell them whom they can and can not donate to? This is what the left has brought us, when individuals and businesses are no longer allowed to donate to whom they want to, and are intimidated for having traditional values. Not blowing whichever way the wind is blowing on any given day.

    In the last few weeks, we have seen assaults by our government on the free excersize of speech. A GOD given right. We have seen 1 that is ONE person complain about something as innocent and timeless as a Daddy Daughter dance, which caused a whole district county to end that tradition. We have seen bullies from the left, thugs dressed up as mayors and aldermans intimidating and black mailing a corporation in the greatest depression in nearly a century because that corporation has the nerve to believe in Traditional marriage and family values. OH THE EVILNESS of them, how dare they indoctrinate our children by having a kids meal with a BOOK instead of a toy.

    Come on people. We’re Christians, and while we hopefully will never bow down to the filth of this world for temporary gain, we must not be so quick to judge our fellows when we don’t know the whole situation.

    I guess I’ve said enough.

    • p m

      Lovely post as usual AbiC. We all got sucked in to one degree or another, and I’m not surprised that you are the one to tell us so, helping to keep everyone on track. There has been so much to be outraged at, this entire month especially, as you rightly point out. What seemed like an awful betrayal at first glance, put the match to the kindling and a lot of frustration came out. No wonder – the provocations have been so great. We’ll reflect, and ponder your words and those of others, then be ready to join in the battle against the dark forces again tomorrow, a little wiser after this day. (Actually, it must already be tomorrow where you are – you’re up late!)

      Before I say goodnight – there is a new WHInsider out, and it’s very interesting. Hope you won’t see it til tomorrow though, we’ve had enough for one day, no? Good night! :)

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        lol, thank you p m. I did stay up late- always do. As I get older, even when I’m tired, I just can’t sleep well, so I stay up until I can’t help but fall asleep when my head hits my pillow. Drives my husband nuts lol, but he’s a light sleeper too and often has the radio on when I finally go to bed…. so then that keeps me awake ;-)

        Anyway, I did read the report (last night) and it was good. I don’t know what things will be come the next few months, I have a strong feeling it’s going to be very ugly- which is why I get sad seeing us all here arguing or getting on forgetting to give the benifit of the doubt to a Christian over a secular politician first until we get a whole story telling us all the details. Sigh, I’m just as guilty of it… I can understand- as too much is going on and we lose focus on what is going on behind so to speak.
        God Bless you my friend across the pond! Hope you have a Blessed day/evening!!

  • JannyMae

    “For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized.”

    Well, then why did you sit around and let it be mischaracterized? Something stinks about this whole thing. I don’t believe this explanation any more than I believe Moreno.

    • NoToTyrants

      There is definitely a foul scent emanating from this whole ordeal. The only honest forthright people involved in this are the people who came out in droves, endured the long lines, and showed their moral and financial support for Chick-Fil-A, traditional values, and freedom of speech.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JR2JSORPY7LWXRAVOJZNJG5A54 Old school-guy

    another thuggery from the ‘tolerance’ crowd. The militant sodomites and their cohorts-successfully bully another company into compliance to their agenda. I’m not going to chic-fill A tomorrow or any other day.

  • kong1967

    I think the liberal tactics of forcefully stopping a company from giving to organizations of their choice is outrageous. Either stop giving to causes the liberals don’t like (conservative causes) or they won’t let you do business in a free market. If I had the ability I would fire every last liberal in government tomorrow and send them all to Venezuela. They’d fit right in there.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Well said kong!!

      • kong1967

        Thank you.

  • WordsFailMe

    Be a hero of your own life.

  • Terrenceor

    It would be wrong for any Corporation to do something that intentionally hurts their small business franchisees. The Cathy family can still fund whatever they want through their personal foundation. Which I imagine they will. Just think of it this way, now Chicago profits will go into Chik-fil-a owners pockets who can do what they want with them.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y2SLZRAVNFSN26JG24TIDW53E4 GibsonLP

      The stores aren’t franchises; they are all company-owned stores.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDJGRV2MMCB6P2ZYTUZW6BHFVA Richard

    I knew they would eventually bend to the wishes of the unhappy lobby. I REFUSE TO CALL THEM GAY. These are very mean people who have no use for the First Amendment, unless they are doing the talking. Good-bye chicken restaurant!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDJGRV2MMCB6P2ZYTUZW6BHFVA Richard

    Will the chicken restaurant support my right to marry more than one woman at a time?

  • Philo Beddoe

    Ok, lets all hetero-sexual conservatives boycott them.:-)

  • Constance

    In response to the RS update posted – Sounds like a lot of corporate-speak to me. It wasn’t clear, and it wasn’t direct regarding the specific latest controversy. That tells me that Chick-Fil-A is no longer funding traditional-marriage groups, and has bent to the will of the “outraged” left. I read and I re-read their comments. Nope. Nothing but corporate-speak.

  • froggy19510

    What’s that old song? If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

  • JoeMontana16

    Hell, start opening on Sundays. I’m sure there is someone out their who wants CFA chicken on Sundays and aren’t Christian’s. I’m sure there is an employee who thinks because they don’t recognize the Christian faith they should be permitted to work on Sundays. Isn’t that the next logical step? Keep giving in.

    I’m going to take others advice and wait as long as I can for what’s supposed to be the real verdict. One thing I will say is this is the reason for the fall of the USA. Lazy Christians with no backbone. This stuff goes on while we’re at our Mega church feeling good about ourselves. Lets not actually do something though. Oooooooh we love to gripe but what we really like to do is………..nothing.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6DK36H6XXJJAY2ZRY6NCQMI2I Chris

      What the left likes to do is put people in groups and classes, according to the victimization or perceived injustice they have suffered. (sarc-on)I’m sure they’ll have an Only on Sundays organization for those who feel that CFA contributes to “hate” groups that support businesses that don’t stay open on Sundays. They must hate people who can only go to Chik-Fil-A on Sundays, since they contribute to those Sunday-hating support groups. That’s discriminatory to those who want to buy a chicken sandwich on Sundays and is hateful to those people.(sarc-off)

  • agas84363

    Gee ….How come the mean evil traditional marriage nazi’s are not protesting how the business spends their own money

  • bobemakk

    I won’t even comment here either.

  • drphibes

    In the words of the AFA (American Family Association), Chick-Fil-A is probably trying to “stay neutral in the culture war.” It might be best that they do as a corporation, and the owners give as much as they want privately to whomever they wish.

    Judging by some of the reactions here, you’d think they just announced the new Chick-Feel-Gay sandwich to appease the Left. It’s probably not so dire.

  • Erdnay

    Gee, maybe if we make a big fuss we can get McDonalds to stop funding the Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce.

  • http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon

    I wonder how Chick Fil A would respond if all those people all over the country that came out to show them support STOPPED eating at their restaurant now! How very sad and disappointing but not surprising. I guess putting a restaurant in Il and making money means more than their comittment to what is right and true.

  • politicaljules

    It wont stop me from supporting them. This feels more like a hatchet job from some very corrupt people trying to smear chick fil a. I have never fully trusted the right schoop and this is just another reason.