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CBS News ran this report tonight and I was literally stunned at some of the “ridiculous” Coburn has found in wasteful spending in the Pentagon:

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  • Nukeman60

    Well, if we cut the waste, duplication and ridiculousness out of our government, then we would have to have a whole lot of special elections, ’cause there would be a lot of politicians getting the axe.

    • Sandra123456

      There are almost 3 million nonmilitary Federal employees. That seems like at least 2 million too many.

      • 911Infidel

        The military has a very large I-T infastructure. It must be maintained by civilians because military personnel are constantly rotating in and out of one base or another because of training, deployment, PCS or ETS. There is no way that the military can maintain the level of expertise that civilians bring to the table because of turnover. It takes a year or two to get good at any of these I-T jobs. The military does not have the personnel or the time to maintain their I-T edge. Hence they need their civilian
        I-T contractors. That costs money and the military has no idea just how much or little some of those I-T contractors invest in their contracts out-of-pocket.

        Federal I-T across the board is a necessary evil, that must be maintained by compitent people. This is not to say that all of these folk are compitent or that supervisors deserve their promotions…The waste here can be addressed by consolidationg positions and eliminating incompitency at the supervisory and the entry level.

        My point is, having many civilian federal employees is a good and bad thing. We don’t need 16,000 more IRS agents or a bloated EPA, or a mindless TSA. There are places that should be cut, and places that just should be trimmed in Federal government.

        People that sit on their arses all day need to be either eliminated or put to work. People that are too dumb for their rank, should be let go and replaced by compitent personnel.

    • Betsey_Ross

      Cutting Fire, Police, Ambulance and Teachers are scare tactics to get you to vote for Dems. It took me a while, but when things don’t change for 20 years and they still use the same tactics and the same Dems are in charge (locally) I finally got the pictuer.

      This also goes for Republicans in charge. One party rule for a long period of time ends up in the same problems. The only difference is it takes the Republicans a lot longer to get into financial trouble.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nelsoncit Neal Nelson

      We can cut a lot, and not just the silly stuff. for one thing, “joint” things waste thought, time and money. You wouldn’t need to worry about joint if you got rolled the Airforce back into the Army(have we even won a war since the Airforce was created?).

      Also, totally subordinate the Marine Corps into the Navy, A couple MEUs and Navy infantry is fine, but why did we increase the size of the Marine Corps to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq? talk about duplicated effort. the Army did more Amphibious ops in WW2, if we need to re-invade something the MEU’s can’t handle, time to call up the entire guard and reserve at once and wage total war.

      And that is another thing, you could save alot of money by making the US Army Reserve and Guard back into organizations that are break glass in case of war, we are wasting alot of money keeping them relevant for the small wars. and it is not fair to call up a reservist as often as we have been.

      Next, get rid of all the joint commands such as PACCOM, EUCOM, AFRICOM, etc, give all that responsibility to Navy fleet commanders, they can handle it. while you are at it, give the Airforce ICBMs to the Navy.

      That would leave us with the Army and the Navy, both of which are in the constitution-the other two services are not mentioned. We wouldn’t need to worry about how to work with four different services and we wouldn’t be wasting money on a bunch of useless flag officers and their bloated staffs.

      In between wars, there is nothing wrong with gutting the Army as long as the Navy is kept strong. all you need are the MEU’s I mentioned earlier, the 18th Airborne Corps and other tiered forces at various stages of readiness. It took as from August until October 1990 to have Saudi Arabia secure from Iraq, and with a reduced Army we could do the same. It took us until Feb 1991 to deploy a 500,000 man coalition army to boot iraq from Kuwait, it would not harm national security to double that amount of time starting from an Army smaller than 1990s 770k or today’s 520k. I suspect we could drop down to 450k in the Army and be just fine. Just dont cut the Guard and Reserve and we will be fine.

  • 911Infidel

    With China on the rise and Putin doing his Kruchev imitation, Iran developing a 1st strike nuke capability, the rise of the Ikwan throughout the ME, this is no time to be cutting troops and civilian support at DOD. There are plenty of Federal agencies that need cutting: EPA, Rural Electrification Project, Dept of Education, TSA, IRS, Dept of Interior, DHS, etc. All of the aformentioned Fed agencies can be cut to the bone or eliminated all together. There is a ton of wasteful spending in the federal government that needs to be cut. Leave the troops and their civilian counterparts alone. Start cutting out all of the make-work Fed projects. Then cut the Foreign aid to countries that are not our friends anymore like Eqypt and Pakistan.

    • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

      Excellent post, 911. Good points, well-stated and concise. Many ‘likes’ to you!

      • 911Infidel

        Thank you.

    • white531

      So Infidel, when do you want to go to Washington? I think you might make a difference. I think it’s worth a shot.

      • white531

        Seriously, I agree.

      • 911Infidel

        Well my views on the religion of pieces wouldn’t sit well with all the politically correct boneheads at State and Defense. I’d be a rock in their shoes.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      To paraphrase John Bolton, he says he’s all for cutting the waste in defense – and then putting that money right back in the defense.

      • 911Infidel

        Exactly. There’s plenty of waste that can be trimmed. Funneling that money back into the budget to purchase more ships, planes, and weapons is the right way to go. Also I would advocate rebuilding our nuclear arsenal and telling Putin “nyet” to any more strategic cuts.

    • Cindy09

      By the way, (I am going to slide away from the subject a little), we should take a hint from Canada. Canada closed its embassy in Iran and had all the diplomats returned back to the country while at the same time, Haper is sending Iranian diplomats back to Iran. I wished our government would take harsher measures to cut all ties with Iran but we have what we have right now. However, it will be harder to get out when needed, last time (1979) our Canadian neighbors helped our fellow countrymen out of Iran. I pray that our government sees the threat that Iran really is.

      • 911Infidel

        The key to solving the Iran problem lies with supporting the Iranian people who despise the theocratic genocidal regime in Tehran. We could do that by publicly supporting the Green Movement and helping them in any way that we can. Let them decide what that help should be. Arming Israel to the teeth and supporting them at every turn is also an excellent idea. We should also diss the Ikwan in Syria and stay the hell out of that conflict. Neither side is worth a damn. We should interfere only if WMD’s are used or are about to be handed over to Hizbollah or Hamas.

        We should also put Achmedinajihad on notice that an attack on Israel will be considered an attack on the US; and the US will respond will a full retaliatory response.

        Lastly we need to withdraw from A-stan and regroup in order to develop a startegic response to the world-wide Third Great Jihad that is being waged against us. We should then pick our targets and respond with a massive strike wherever we decide to strike, No more restrictive ROE’s. We should fight the jihadis the same way that we fought the Japanese jihadis in WWII or the Nazis in Germany with steel and fire directed against any and all military targets of the jihadis. No more whack-a-mole.

        • MaxineCA

          I agree 100%, but I doubt Valerie Jarrett will allow that, you know. Geez, how quickly they have taken our country down from the inside. Who could have possibly imagined that happening to the greatest country on the planet with the greatest military. Peace through strength has been undermined. It makes me sick! (and very, very sad)

          • 911Infidel

            Vallerie Jarret needs to go back to managing her ghetto housing complex and leave the thinking up to people that can. She’s …worthless and useless to anyone but academic miscreants like Obama and his Wookie.

            • REHLV

              I hope she takes the rest of her group with her. They should know by now that their ghetto housing model does not work in the White House. It is time to gut what we have and “upgrade”.

              • 911Infidel

                “They should know by now that their ghetto housing model does not work in the White House”. Awesome comment. I’m stealing that.

        • Cindy09

          That was a golden chance that Obama had a few years ago but he decided to do nothing. Like you said we could take tougher measures but with this administration we can only imagine how different things could have been, had they taken the right course of action. Iran has gotten more respite than needed. It is a tough choice to attack a nation, if Israel decided to. But if our stance against Iran had been firmer, Israel would certainly not be in this situation of life and death. Yet there is a lot of christians such as Pastor Nadarkhani in Iran, it is my prayer than when and if Iran’s nuclear sites are struck, that God protects all the innocents and those who have suffered since the revolution.

          • 911Infidel

            Yet another reason to hook up with the opposition…to avoid unecessary civilian casualties in a strike against the enemies of God. Its still not to late to help out the opposition. We just need to get rid of Mr Empty Suit and his fellow knuckleheads in this government and that includes Miss Knownothing – Hillary Rotten Klinton.

    • http://hehasfailed.wordpress.com/ HopeHeFails

      You could cut the DOE and it would be years before anyone knew, other than the country would begin to heal, the rise of the oceans would be slowed, and the national debt would likely be cut in half in less than 4 years due to reductions in regulations making businesses more efficient.

      • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

        And double-like to you, HEF. Great observation.

      • Susanna958

        Was that energy or education. Both would be good.

  • p m

    The Good Doctor often brings these wasteful ridiculouses to the attention of the House, and with luck some of the wasters will be weaned off other people’s money.

    He also wants to cut ethanol subsidies and told told Grover Norquist where to go when GN (our resident GOP islamophile and friend of terror-connected islamists) criticized him because cutting the subsidies would equate to an increase in taxes. Go figure.

    Meanwhile, if I may stray a little o/t, a billboard not to be missed, from the guy who doesn’t want you to blame him for anything – yes, that guy -scroll down the page to see it! It’s a winner (not a whiner)
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/09/08/obama-whines-about-poor-jobs-report-its-not-my-fault/

    • mike3e4r7

      Grover Norquist is a tool.

  • http://twitter.com/WinstonCN Winston Smith

    No defense cuts to fund Obama’s pet socialist projects.

    • PhillyCon

      Interesting, isn’t it? There’s ALL this waste in defense, but not a drop to be found at the EPA, Education, Energy, or especially HHS … we HAVE to cut defense, but God forbid we don’t fund the ten dollar birth control pill.

  • mike3e4r7

    Sure there’s some “ridiculous” spending by the Defense Dept. like the ones Coburn mentions, but to buy into the idea that boondogles come anywhere near close to 600 billion strikes me as ridiculous. I’m not an expert in this area but to cherry pick a few outragous programs and then imply that they make up a 600 billion dollar portion of the defense budget strikes me as hard to beleive, to say the least. This leftist hit peice also slips in 73 billion in defense related R&D and seems to be trying to put that into the same category as programs to remove skunks from golf courses.

    The entire Dept. of Education consists of ‘ridiculous’ and unnecesarry spending. Most if not all of the Dept. of Energy spending is probably unnecessary, but CBS wants to convince Americans, that we can cut 600 billion from the Pentagon simply by eliminating waste.

    • SineWaveII

      Exactly

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      Coburn says you could cut 85 billion over ten years in wasteful spending and not hurt the military, which definitely is not the 600 billion of automatic cuts that look like are coming down the pike in January to the military. CBS it sounded like it is wrongly trying to tie in Leon’s talk of a smaller, leaner and more agile military with Tom’s practical wasteful spending cuts.

      As a defense for their spending tax payer money in removing skunks from golf courses and other ways they spend dollars that seem silly, the Pentagon is trying to sell wasteful spending to the masses while trying to stay in power by saying you’ll hurt small towns where some of the all-volunteer military live if these things get cut from their budget.

  • SineWaveII

    This kind of stuff doesn’t surprise me, but what about the other government agencies? Isn’t there a chance we could find even more waste and ridiculousness in the other budgets as well?

  • MaxineCA

    IMHO, I think Sen. Coburn is onto something. I can’t wait to see the full list of what he has found. Let’s face it folks, the Congress critters’ chickens have come home to roost. How do you think ALL of the budgets have gotten SO bloated over many, many years? They have been taking OUR tax dollars and sending the money home to their cronies for ridiculous projects. Do you guys remember seeing the Pig Report (Breitbart used to post it once a month but that was a few years ago.) It listed the stupid projects like the turtle tunnels, bridge to nowhere, lizards on treadmills, universities getting money for ridiculous research, etc.

    They used to go home and brag about all of the money they brought home for projects. They SHOULD have been evaluated on how much money they saved the taxpayers!

    The Defense department is much more than just our military (as the examples in this report). This is a no brainer for me….. Keep your dang hands off of our military and cut EVERY budget!

    As a side note: Cheryl Atkinson is one of the few honest reporters left at CBS. She is the one that broke the Fast & Furious story in the MSM.

  • wolfveryne

    No ,, No ,, let’s cut these worthless Politicians ,, Fed , State , Local ,City , County ,, they are NOT performing ,,
    Time to Change ,, just Who Represents ,, We the People ,,
    They Write the Rules ,, Just who can run for Office ,, and Just Who they will support,,
    True Democrats/Republicans ,, are these parties for US the People any more ,, I ask you ,, NO They Are “NOT”!!!
    Folks ,, I am a Proud American who believes in America ,, Are You ? ?

  • Sober_Thinking

    Smaller, leaner, more agile force… hogwash. Any cut to our military is a cut to our national security.

    Yes, there is waste… I lived that when the $750 toilet seat existed. What’s funny though is that Base Supply could ONLY shelve items from the GAO catalog or items that were provided through Government contracts. I could elaborate but it’s late and I’m tired.

    Cut the military’s quality of life in any way and that’s a bad call. Force tighter measures on an already Karen Carpenter-like budget and members of our military will be in peril. While in Operation Desert Storm, you’d be stunned at how little we had to get by with – we had to improvise in many ways. Without care packages from home, things would have been a lot worse.

    Be smart… but of course the stinking Government is involved so that’s unlikely.

  • MaxineCA

    Here’s a interesting website from the CATO Institute that looks at every dept. regarding Downsizing Government….. how it could easily be done dept by dept. I was amazed! Then I got angry….. what the hell is the delay? Just do it already! Although I don’t agree with some of the articles in their downsizing blog, the dept by dept analysis was an eye opener.

    Once you click on the department it lists sub topics. WARNING, WARNING, your head might explode to see how OUR money is being spent. (And this isn’t even the Pig Report, I’m still looking for that.)

    http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/

    And they are talking about messing with our Military????? We need to be building our military and updating our ships, planes, etc. Gotta stop before I break the commenting rules!

    • sybilll

      Maxine, that is a great link. It highlights just how many more bloated government programs either must go, or the waste be shuttered. And yes, it made my blood boil.

      • MaxineCA

        When I first discovered the website, it really took me days to drill down through all of the departments. We’re now all pretty well educated on many topics, but this is one I feel we all must spend some time on, so we don’t have to take any politician’s word on it. Many are overwhelmed by the HUGE numbers, but we must look at it as a budget matter and recognize how they have already been redistributing our wealth which opens the door to government control. It started back in the 30’s (depending on the program, maybe before).

        I sure hope everyone takes some time to explore it.

        • p m

          Big thanks Maxine – there’s a free e-book we can download and convert via mobi for our e-readers too. Very interesting.

    • Nukeman60

      The saddest part is, if and when they actually do eliminate $600 billion from the defense budget, they will never cut a dime from the discretionary budget or the entitlements. They will make up some scheme to eliminate future funds, but never actually get there.

      They did the same thing when they came up with the idea to have 4 tax cuts for every tax increase. Why not just have 3 tax cuts and no tax increases instead of 4 to 1? The reason is the tax cuts are in the future and the tax increases are right now. That which happens right now actually happens while what happens in the future never actually happens. It’s an old political trick.

  • skspls

    There has been lots of talk about cutting vital programs and services, but little talk of cutting waste in government at all levels. A thorough audit, identifying waste in Federal Government is long past due and would be well worth the cost. The audit should a top down analysis with mandatory elimination of wasteful spending.

  • MaxineCA

    I really believe that most of us who have had to balance our family budgets – get it! Anything that is called a subsidy – goes. (Decoder ring calls it redistribution of OUR money and more government control.) Yes, we are already living in the USSA.

    Here’s a great example from the link I posted regarding downsizing govt. Keep in mind, this is just the Dept. of Education which they recommend be eliminated:

    “The Department of Education operates a range of subsidy programs for elementary and secondary schools. That aid is matched by rising federal regulatory control over the schools, but federal intervention has not generally lifted academic achievement. The department also provides subsidies to higher education through student loans and grants. Unfortunately, that aid has fueled inflation in college tuition and is subject to widespread abuse.”

    “The department will spend about $98 billion in 2012, or $830 for every U.S. household. It employs 4,300 workers and operates 153 different subsidy programs.”

    (Gosh I wish I knew how to bold the important points.)

    Here we have $98 billion in savings in just one department!!!!!!

    • Nukeman60

      Try this site.

      http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/466253-what-html-tags-are-allowed-within-comments-

      Specifically, put in front of desired bold words and after them.

      Hope that helps.

      • toongoon

        I tried this before and blew it.

        • toongoon

          Finally, this is cool. Good explanation!!!

          • Nukeman60

            Practice makes perfect, Joe. Oops, I mean toon, lol. Glad it worked for you.

            • toongoon

              Practice makes perfect, Joe. Oops, I mean toon

              I can see this is going to be a fun election season.

              • Nukeman60

                Use it wisely. Don’t let your keyboard run out of ink. :)

                • toongoon

                  Seriously? keyboards don’t run out of in

                • Nukeman60

                  I’ll say the same thing as I said to Joe when he first learned how to use bold type — What have I created? lol.

                  Now, if you want italics, replace the “b” with an “i”. Or if you want to underline something, replace the “b” with a “u”. If you feel like strooking striking out something, replace the “b” with “strike”.

                  Those are the ones I use the most.

            • Galatiansch2vs20

              He’s Popeye, the sailorman! (j/k)

            • toongoon

              OK. Call me ABC, call me Joe, you can even call me Popeye,
              just don’t call me Sweet Pea. ;-D

              Oh man this is fun!

      • MaxineCA

        Thanks Nukeman.

      • p m

        Trying it out…

        Wow – works – thanks Nukeman!

  • StrangernFiction

    And electing Joe Manchin isn’t going to help reduce it.

  • wodiej

    How many years has Coburn been in Congress but is just now concerned about wasteful spending? If it’s this bad in the defense, it’s bad in all the departments. If the economy improves after obama is gone and jobs begin to come back, I won’t hold my breath waiting on these cuts to be made across the board.

    Spending like this should have never been approved to begin with. It’s a disgrace that our leaders have condoned and even encouraged it.

    • MaxineCA

      Sen. Coburn has been documenting wasteful spending for several years. When they were in a panic over the debt ceiling, he offered a plan that would cut $9 trillion which included ridiculous tax credits. He looked at the direct and indirect (tax credits) due to crony capitalism but of course the Senate wouldn’t have any of that, not even debate it. Don’t be too hard on the guy, that was a short interview specifically regarding defense cuts. I’m sure the guy isn’t perfect, but he has made many attempts to cut the waste, fraud and abuse for many years.

    • PhillyCon

      The waste that is Obamacare in HHS dwarfs what’s going on in defense. I don’t buy into this at all …

      • Galatiansch2vs20

        Coburn says you could cut 85 billion over ten years in wasteful spending and not hurt the military, which definitely is not the 600 billion of automatic cuts that look like are coming down the pike in January to the military since Congress did not reach an agreement. CBS it sounded like it is wrongly trying to tie in Leon’s talk of a smaller, leaner and more agile military with Tom’s practical wasteful spending cuts.

  • Kordane

    The Left doesn’t care whether cuts to the military harm our ability to defend ourselves against foreign nations. The Left WANT foreign nations to be able to harm us. The Left are so racked with guilt about this country that they’d rather see it in ashes than see it continue as it is. The Left are always about self-destruction, self-abnegation, self-sacrifice, self-denial, and anything else that harms the self. They are at war with the very idea of a self. That’s pretty fundamental stuff right there I can tell you.

  • Yazz55

    To state that there is waste in any and all areas of the Federal government is only the beginning of a massive understatement. To focus only on the military is only one teeny weeny part of it. I have nothing against eliminating wasteful spending in the govt, but don’t just limit it to the military.

    Getting rid of pork barrel projects and earmarks first would make the most sense to a logical thinking person. But that eliminates almost 100% of what exists inside the WashDC beltway. So, that just aint gonna happen. Getting rid of it wouldn’t harm any productive part of the economy.

    • librtifirst

      Government spreading the money around is a big part of the economy. There is no “productive” base to climb out of this mess with. We have a service economy, and it depends on borrowed money flowing out of SS, welfare, government subsidies, government jobs, and contracted jobs with government. The real unemployment rate is closer to twenty percent, rather than ten.

      Since government has to continue spending to keep away the chaos that would ensue without it, we may as well quit the wars, protect our borders, and batten down the hatches for when the currency fails. If we don’t get a sovereign currency going, it won’t matter what we do, other than the fact that we will be a nation in chaos with most of our protection over seas.

      This country could shut down over night. That is how fragile the whole system is. Some experts outside of the main stream are predicting a major financial event within the next nine months to a year. The next crash cannot be bailed out without sever consequences world wide. Financial institutions will fail. We will have bank holidays. People won’t be able to access their money. Retirement accounts will evaporate. Inflation will destroy purchasing power. People will go hungry. Crime will escalate immensely. Government will become authoritarian, and it could lead to totalitarian rule.

      Being this close to a collapse means that our government would have to reverse course now, and do things that nobody is even talking about, to preserve the republic. Otherwise, our liberties will be gone, and there will be no recovery.

      Backing out of this mess would require the federal government to shut down all departments, including the biggest, Homeland Security. A new sovereign currency would have to be created, and the money supply regulated carefully, as not to destroy it before it got going. Social services would have to continue until we converted over to free market capitalism, and restored our ability to compete. Farms would have to be left alone to produce food for a depressed America, and do it without government intervention. (especially local farms) Local militias would have to be formed to protect against a large crime wave that will ensue. The only other way is for the military to lock down the country.

      This could all be done now, but our government considers these ideas to be those of terrorists. They are targeting small business’, farms, militias, returning vets, end the Fed people, etc. The federal government is suppressing everything that is needed for this country to survive. The people have become the enemy. Until that changes, nothing will be salvaged.

      • wodiej

        I agree w you on the military thing. We can’t afford to fight everyone’s battles.

  • librtifirst

    So, the MSM is starting to lay out the Ron Paul plan. Interesting.

  • armyvet10

    This issue has many fronts to attack and the dollars spent is just one of them. Yet the most lavished way of life lies not with the military but our politicians. Yes we can all tighten our belts and this should include the military as well. The one thing I would like to see is have all politicians to be put through one year of military service as a private. This would include basic training and AIT. (advanced individual training) The manner in which politicians live on tax payer’s money should be the first to be examined and reduced. The contrast of how politicians live and how soldiers live is extremely contrasted to say the least. A politician’s world at this time is spent in front of the cameras and behind very cushy amenities. Privates in the military awake to yelling screaming and hard physical activities. Should we be paying for documentaries about aliens, or providing apps for your phone to monitor your caffeine intake, no. But before anyone puts forth the idea that the military is wiping their but with gold toilette paper, try living like a private for a year or two.
    Retired SFC, U S Army, so yes, I did live like a private.

    • Nukeman60

      Excellent points, av10. Both the military and our politicians are hired to protect us. Even though they are constantly gutted, the military does a fantastic job. The politicians, on the other hand, not so much.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    Under sequestration, the Pentagon has to cut $600 billion from its budget. From what Coburn said, you could probably save roughly $25 billion. Let’s be generous and say it’s $100 billion. That still leaves $500 BILLION in cuts that need to be made. Where’s that money going to come from? It’s going to come from future ships, planes, tanks, and a massive reduction in the number of troops in the all-volunteer military. So if you want to shrink our military to a smaller level than it was prior to World War II, then go ahead. But we will no longer be a world power. We will be no better than France or Britain, and we all saw how “well” they did when the two of them could barely take on Libya without our help. France and Britain could barely take on a fourth-rate power where half of its own population was rebelling against it. It took major American assistance to win that war, especially at the beginning of the conflict. Could you imagine what would happen if there was a really serious war involving Iran, China, or even North Korea?

    • kong1967

      As Dems spend more and more money, they will continue to look for places to get it. The military is always one of the primary targets. Libs would be perfectly happy decimating our military so they can have more money for social programs. One thing these idiots overlook (among many) is that even after the military is eliminated so they can skip-dittle-doo with massive social spending, they will still run out of money as the programs naturally get bigger. Cut the military or not, libs will bankrupt us with social spending, so they just as well get a handle on it now before we cut the military at all.

  • kong1967

    Yeah, cut that bullcrap. But that’s only $85 billion over ten years. They have to cut $600 billlion. They could cut every last penny from research and development and it still wouldn’t be enough. If they cut that we lose our edge against the enemy. We will no longer be one step ahead.

    This is a bunch of bull. The one thing the government is required to do should not be cut…other than the waste which should be managed anyway. Republicans made a piss-ass deal because government is massive and the rest of the cuts get to be divided among a ton of programs and agencies. Fire all of them stupid a-holes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    I agree with Coburn but the problem is I don’t underestimate the ability of the Beltway to not see what is in front of their face.

  • stevenbiot

    “Did Jesus die for Clingons too.” Haha. Southpark couldn’t come up with a better parody of our despicable government.

  • stevenbiot

    Even though Milton Friedman couldn’t come up with a way to privatize defense, doesn’t mean we should stop looking for answers in the private sector.

    • Galatiansch2vs20

      You might be interested in hearing what fiscal conservative Senator Tom Coburn says about the debt crisis:
      http://video.foxnews.com/v/1616643149001/sen-coburn-warns-of-ticking-debt-bomb

      • MaxineCA

        It’s a shame we’re going to lose him. What a straight talking Senator! I love that he takes on both sides (D & R) who put their political careers ahead of country. He’s probably tired of putting out plans that could solve problems, only to be ignored. I’m sure he’s fed up with the BS in DC. I loved the part when he didn’t sit back and take Alan’s criticism of the Tea Party.

        Great interview. Thanks for sharing!

        • Galatiansch2vs20

          We need more who believe life begins at conception who are also fiscal hawks in the Congress and he did much in service of our country.

          You’re welcome!

        • illegalpointofview

          great points but are not the Republicans in charge of the house . So we need new leaders who will do what’s needed no matter the fallout

          • MaxineCA

            No, he is in the Senate (the D’s are in majority) which Harry Reid controls with an iron fist.

  • PAWatcher

    Look to Russia and how 10 years in Afghanistan affected their military, social and political structures.

  • illegalpointofview

    Sudden and relentless reform is the only way

  • http://black-avenger-1.livejournal.com/profile VirusX

    Really, I would have 100% of those cuts come out of domestic spending programs. I don’t care about “wasteful spending” in the Pentagon, because its nothing compared to the wasteful, illegal, un-Constitutional spending under the umbrella of “unfunded liabilities”. Getting rid of each and every one of those spending programs would literally blast the buoyancy back into America, and put us above water, again. Cutting spending in the Department of War during wartime should be done with great care and consideration, and after long and deliberate study by fiscal Conservatives, and not just by kneejerk reflex, or by defaults. Yes, I realize that there are things that could, and probably should be discontinued, in terms of defense spending, but they’re nothing compared to the un-American, un-Constitutional and unintelligent spending on so-called “entitlement” programs, like Social Security (a program crafted by a racist, socialist president that wanted dictatorial powers, and had the help of a complicit Supreme Court) and Medicare (a socialist program, signed into law by yet another of the democratic racist, socialist presidents).

    There are far too many other things that should be eliminated, before touching the DOD budget. The 2011 Fiscal Budget:

    Mandatory spending: $2.173 trillion (+14.9%)
    $695 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security
    $571 billion (+58.6%) – Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
    $453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare
    $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid
    $164 billion (+18.0%) – Interest on National Debt

    US receipt and expenditure estimates for fiscal year 2010.
    Discretionary spending: $1.378 trillion (+13.8%)
    $663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations)
    $78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services
    $72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation
    $52.5 billion (+10.3%) – Department of Veterans Affairs
    $51.7 billion (+40.9%) – Department of State and Other International Programs
    $47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing and Urban Development
    $46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education
    $42.7 billion (+1.2%) – Department of Homeland Security
    $26.3 billion (−0.4%) – Department of Energy
    $26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture
    $23.9 billion (−6.3%) – Department of Justice
    $18.7 billion (+5.1%) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration
    $13.8 billion (+48.4%) – Department of Commerce
    $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of Labor
    $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of the Treasury
    $12.0 billion (+6.2%) – Department of the Interior
    $10.5 billion (+34.6%) – Environmental Protection Agency
    $9.7 billion (+10.2%) – Social Security Administration
    $7.0 billion (+1.4%) – National Science Foundation
    $5.1 billion (−3.8%) – Corps of Engineers
    $5.0 billion (+100%-NA) – National Infrastructure Bank
    $1.1 billion (+22.2%) – Corporation for National and Community Service
    $0.7 billion (0.0%) – Small Business Administration
    $0.6 billion (−14.3%) – General Services Administration
    $0 billion (−100%-NA) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
    $0 billion (−100%-NA) – Financial stabilization efforts
    $11 billion (+275%-NA) – Potential disaster costs
    $19.8 billion (+3.7%) – Other Agencies
    $105 billion – Other
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

    This is what I’d eliminate, permanently, and up front:
    Mandatory spending:
    $695 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security
    $571 billion (+58.6%) – Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
    $453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare
    $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid

    US receipt and expenditure estimates for fiscal year 2010.
    Discretionary spending:
    $78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services
    $72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation
    $47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing and Urban Development
    $46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education
    $26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture
    $18.7 billion (+5.1%) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration
    $13.8 billion (+48.4%) – Department of Commerce
    $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of Labor
    $12.0 billion (+6.2%) – Department of the Interior
    $10.5 billion (+34.6%) – Environmental Protection Agency
    $9.7 billion (+10.2%) – Social Security Administration
    $7.0 billion (+1.4%) – National Science Foundation
    $5.0 billion (+100%-NA) – National Infrastructure Bank
    $1.1 billion (+22.2%) – Corporation for National and Community Service
    $0.7 billion (0.0%) – Small Business Administration
    $0 billion (−100%-NA) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
    $0 billion (−100%-NA) – Financial stabilization efforts
    $11 billion (+275%-NA) – Potential disaster costs
    $19.8 billion (+3.7%) – Other Agencies
    $105 billion – Other

    There are far too many other things that not only could, but should be eliminated, or at least critically slashed, but Congress and the White House are too chock full of chinless cowards that don’t have the political will, much less the backbone, to do the right thing and not worry about lengthy political careers.

  • Shootist

    W/O watching and with the disclaimer that I’m right of Genghis Khan, the Cold War is over, NATO has no purpose except to feed the Military Industrial Complex. Japan, and South Korea can now afford to pay for their own defense, bring the troops home from the Korean DMZ and occupied Japan.

    There. I saved a buttload of money.

    • http://black-avenger-1.livejournal.com/profile VirusX

      Oh, the Cold War is over? Really?

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188791/Russian-attack-submarine-slipped-past-US-Navy-patrolled-Gulf-Mexico-weeks-undetected.html

      http://articles.cnn.com/2009-08-05/us/russian.submarines_1_submarines-two-russian-waters?_s=PM:US

      http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2008/04/airforce_pacaf_040608/

      http://www.tldm.org/News9/RussianBombersBuzzAlaska.htm

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6981541.stm

      http://www.majiroxnews.com/2011/03/30/jsdf-jets-chase-russian-nuke-samplers/

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127352/Spies-China-Russia-Iran-infect-American-universities-steal-government-corporate-secrets.html

      You think you’re “right of Genghis Khan”?! Maybe to the right of Bill Clinton, but not by much. What planet are you on, to think the Cold War is over and that the American military would be better off without the “Military Industrial Complex”? Have you even been in the military? Because I have, and I most certainly appreciated my Colt Defense M203 40mm grenade launcher, Colt M1911 .45 ACP, Baretta M9, Trijicon HD™ Night Sights, DuPont kevlar helmets, Colt Defense, H&R Firearms, GM Hydromatic and US Ordnance manufactured M16 and M4, and all the rest of the goodies I had that I gleefully used to make the lives of Russians, Chinese, Panamanians and Cubans nothing less than miserable. Maybe you wouldn’t mind getting your gear from state-owned “companies” like MiG-MAPO and Izhmash, but I know better. My gear was made by corporations that thought they had a bright idea for something that the US military could use to maintain their superiority, that would, in turn, make them rich. Its a system that’s worked all this time, and I’ll be a part of that, before I get my gear from some government employee that creates things that come from the minds of bean counting bureaucrats.

      As for Japan and South Korea, they’re what we military people call “allies”. Dishonorable people (mostly civilians) advocate leaving people that we’ve called allies behind, against enemies they cannot defeat, themselves, after helping us. I believe Obama and his ilk advocate for that. The Russians, the NORKS and the Red Chinese are not merely the enemies of the South Koreans & Japanese, but the US, as well. The USDOD, as a legitimate organ of the federal government, has the Constitutional mandate to stand ready to defend America and it’s interests, by waging war, and yet, instead of suggestions like cutting Amtrak, an un-Constitutional “business” that hemorraghes money, or slashing the USPS to only delivering mail to government facilities, and giving the rest to the private sector, your bright idea is to save a “buttload” of money by stabbing allies in the back, and providing the armed forces with BS weapons and gear. Smart. Obama is nodding in approval.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OOKK3KBK7M2DX5OKOV7ODZ3QTA Jay

      Well, thanks for commenting without actually watching. Uninformed opinion is what we really crave here. Perhaps you could also give us the answer to life, the universe and everything.

      • Shootist

        Hardly uninformed. I just don’t care what the senator from Oklahoma thinks, or rather his opinion doesn’t shape mine. I’ve studied military history long enough to know that Eisenhower and Washington were, and are still, correct.The last thing this country needs is a large standing military and entangling foreign alliances. We were once a republic, not a failed empire. We can strive to be a republic again. Republics do not have large standing militaries.

        The WoT is bullshite writ large. The Cold War is over. Our Navy is peerless. Tur military needs to return from foreign soil to bases within the US. If you like, make it crystal clear to every nation state that if an attack originates from their soil we will destroy their infrastructure and replace their current government with prejudice. And then we will come home. No rebuilding. No foreign aid. You cannot build nation states where Alexander and Gladstone failed.

  • TJinNJ

    Why the Pentagon? I’m sure there’s more useless departments that could go first. This guy acts like he’s on our side but…he’s one of those go along to get along types. Oh, reason they don’t cut spending is once they do, economy crashes. Think Weimar.

  • Neosaigo

    Only idiots doesn’t know the defense budget is ridiculously bloated.

    It has nothing to do with national security, and it is actually possible to cut the defense budget by 1/3 without any real effect on national defense.

    Simply too much waste, but the defense budget has never been put on the line due to the GOP insisting on spending more and more on “defense” while rarely do anything to make sure to cut out the waste.

    Sequestration is not the best way to get spending cuts due to its broad stroke approach, but hopefully it will force the GOP to finally admit the amount of waste that is in the defense budget.

    If going to to cut spending, lets start with wasteful spending, whether it is military or civilian, wasteful spendings are not needed.