Colorado legislator: You don’t need guns to defend yourselves, just wait for the gunman to reload

This has to be one of the most idiotic things I’ve heard in this gun debate:

So I guess you have to dodge bullets until the gunman needs to reload, and then hope that they can’t reload faster than you can get there to knock them down.

Yeah, I think I’d prefer my so-called ‘assault rifle’ instead of dancing around like a moron.

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  • mjs_28s

    He claims that Gifford was saved by people taking the gunman down when he reloaded?

    Gifford was saved by the bullet that hit her not causing a fatal injury.

    Additionally, waiting for someone to reload – does that mean if a shooter is a dead aim that we have to wait until 5, 10, or 15 people are shot before we defend ourselves? What if a shooter has three 10 shot pistols? Do we have to wait until 30 people are shot before we can take action?

    I trust people that practice with their firearms to take down a shooter. I know that with my pistol (6″ barrel) I can put every shot in an area the size of a grapefruit at 25 yards. I know I’d want someone around that can shoot or I would want to have a firearm in the event of some wacko gunning at people.

    • Kenneth Webb

      don’t worry, the law will only allow the shooter 7 rounds…..

      • maynardb50

        Maybe they should pass the Barney Fife law (Andy Griffith show). Keep just 1 round in your shirt pocket.

  • joyfulgiver

    scoop check this out – it may be that the whole gun control issue is much more frightening than we know.

    • Joe

      Very scary story indeed

    • wales777

      This has been out for a while and in several places in the web. Was Gen Hamm and Petraeus let go and sabotaged because they wouldn’t go along??

      And the 1.6 billions rounds the DHS have purchased are not for police. The caliber they are purchasing are not routinely used by local and state police depts.

      • KenInMontana

        The lion’s share of the ammo order is for .40 S&W, in fact it is widely used by Law Enforcement and has pretty well replaced the 10mm the Feds were using.

        • That explains why I’m having trouble getting ammo.

          • KenInMontana

            You and everyone else Bro.

  • OneThinDime

    I guess the scissors are out and the ball point pens are in.


    19 people were shot
    6 people died, including a judge and a 9-year old girl

    I guess there weren’t enough ball point pens on duty that day.

    Crickets on the rapes prevented, burglaries stopped, child abductions halted and murders prevented because the victim or family member used a gun for defense.

    • warpmine

      Soon to be put into practice when authorities explain to women that walk by themselves that a ball point pen is a great personal security device….

      • OneThinDime

        Right! And CO doesn’t trust women with scissors either.

        How will the libs react when they realize those pens are not recyclable?

  • maynardb50

    Colorado has been infected with California disease. Please, I beg, don’t infest my Texas.

    • BlueGood

      I’m now going to sell “.50 cal. Hallow Ball Point Pens” to millions of Liberals!

      Of course, no more than 10 will be permitted in the “Hallow Ball Point Pens” Assault magazines…….which of course will meet all the Liberals needs to exercise restraint….

      Stupidity should be painful….

    • c4pfan

      A lot of Texans have come to Colorado and that hasn’t helped any.

    • warpmine

      Shoot first, ask party affiliation later.

      • OneThinDime

        Wonder if there is any legitimate study on political affiliation of rapists…

    • OneThinDime

      Tell your Gov because he is recruiting in NY and CA

      • physicsnut

        Here is what Laurence Lewis of DailyKos says:

        Thanks to the judicial activism of the right-wing extremists of the Roberts Court, there is an individual constitutional right to bear arms. That is the current law. That is the current official interpretation of the meaning of the vague words of the small, exclusive and exclusionary group of white Protestant men, some of whom were slave owners, some of whom were monarchists, and none of whom seemed to think women should be allowed to participate in governance, who lived more than two centuries ago but whose words more than two centuries later are considered sacrosanct for guiding us through the modern world. That doesn’t mean that the current interpretation of those vague words always will be the law, but it is the law for now.
        END QUOTE
        oh dear, monarchists !! ??? These politicians sure are acting like monarchists !

    • I’m from Pa. and i tell my friends the same thing about the moderate libs screwing uo the midwest. This is proof they cannot deny.

  • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

    Oh! Give Me A Break!!

  • Dr Natural

    Well then by this logic police don’t need weapons either

  • Sober_Thinking

    It seems to me that a competent shooter can drop a clip and reload in 5 seconds or less…

    Satan has clouded the minds of these morons. There’s no other excuse for this kind of stupid.

    • famouswolf

      Actually, I knew a guy who could do a combat reload in two seconds.

      • Sober_Thinking

        I was hoping someone would point out something like that… I knew it takes no time at all for experts.

        Soooooo… there goes that theory about waiting for the reload.

        • famouswolf

          Lots of guys, actually. Did you ever hear of a man name of Jeff Cooper? He was a firearms expert who wrote for the gun magazines for a long time, had a long running school for teaching shooting skills, and was one of the foremost proponents of the 1911 .45 auto. Basically, he taught that you have a basically unending magazine if you trained up on the combat reload, and could keep fighting as long as ammo held up, without a pause. He did not recommend high capacity magazines in smaller calibers at all, and frequently said the whole high magazine thing was just a political sock puppet. Ten round magazines are no impediment to a trained shooter at all. It’s liberal BS. Pure and simple, and this guy is just a low grade moron with utterly no idea what he is talking about, like most of these pie in the sky, feely feely shemales and butch dyke feminazis. Useful idiots to the real bad guys, the ones who want to turn us all into needy peasants.

          • Sober_Thinking

            “like most of these pie in the sky, feely feely shemales and butch dyke feminazis. Useful idiots to the real bad guys, the ones who want to turn us all into needy peasants.”


            I literally laughed out loud at that… wish I had said it. 🙂

  • This guy is shockingly stupid. That is, it would be shocking if we didn’t already know he is Democrat and an advocate for people control.

    But I’m glad he said it because this is the argument. They have nothing else. More experienced advocates for people control would not have so clumsily blundered into an honest display of profound ignorance (or is it contempt?), but would rather have changed the subject or called someone a racist.

    His recommendation is all that remains when people control has been fully implemented.

  • armyvet10

    The best defense is a good offense. In this case, waiting for a lull in the action, is resting on a prayer the crazed gunman has trouble reloading and can be reached in time to disarm them. A bullet travels much faster and with a trained person controlling the trigger, a target can be effectively engaged. As far as worrying about the criminals rights, easy enough to read them their rights when they are incapacitated. I don’t see the liberal democrats worrying about the rights of the victims of the Fort Hood terrorist attack.

    • warpmine

      For that matter, the sound of a gun discharge not your own has the effect of the shooter looking for either cover of turning the barrel upon himself.

  • Joe

    Maybe he will allow this thoughtful maneuver to be tried on him

    Maybe it’s a good idea!

    I’ll watch!

    What is wrong with these people – Can they actually be this stupid?

  • clockwindingdown

    I hope Jesse Ulibarri will put himself in harms way to demonstrate exactly how to execute his plan.

    Instead of talking Jesse, take action, show the good people of Colorado how, put yourself and family on the line, do as you ask others to do. Have criminals break into your home shooting, then wait until they reload before taking action. If you won’t then you are being insincere and lack conviction of that which you expect others to abide.

    What happens if criminals do not need to reload, what happens if they shoot everyone without the need to reload?

    Jesse, did you put any actual thought into this, or do you actually think your thoughts make sense?

    Jesse’s logic of disarming victims does nothing to save lives or prevent shootings, even in his example scenario the criminals are still armed.

    Jesse, do you see the problem? “The criminals are armed the victims are not”. With logic like that this guy got elected…

  • OneThinDime

    How stupid are the CO Dems? This from Breitbart: “CO Legislator On Women With Guns: ‘Feel Like You’re Going To Be Raped … You May Not Be'” In answer to Repubs concerned with banning conceal & carry on college campuses

    -gender inequities on college campuses, “that’s why we have call boxes” “that’s why we have safe zones” “that’s why we have the whistles” because you don’t know who you’ll be shooting at

  • crosshr

    trible face palm !

  • Earthforce1

    As they say, weapons grade stupid.

  • Rshill7

    No fool. You drop the gunman in his tracks before he gets the first round off. Then hit him a couple more times as he’s going down.

    • virginiagentleman1

      Egg-zackly right Brother Bear!

    • KenInMontana

      The “Mozambique Drill”, three shots, two center mass, one between the tip of the nose and the running lights. Works every time.

  • davienne

    are you kidding me ??/ ball point pens, scissors … what next throwing spitballs until they concede… are these people on planet dumbazz or what ??? i was always told if i expected to win a fight over a bigger person… pick up an equilizer…

    • clockwindingdown

      If they actually believed this they would arm themselves with ball point pens and scissors and let someone with a gun attack them, they won’t because they don’t.

      I say call them on it. Ask them to put themselves in harms way, in front of a criminal armed with a gun, versus themselves armed only ballpoint pens and scissors. Let the criminal use a paintball gun, no reason for Jesse not agree…

      Let them explain their way out of following through with such a situation…

      If they are willing to advocate for such, then demand they set the example. Hold them accountable for their words and actions!

      A conservative saying something this stupid regarding any issue from the left, the left would destroy! Should we not reciprocate?

    • OneThinDime

      Be sure to click the link on sybilll’s post above Women are supposed to piddle and vomit to prevent the rape, among other STUPID things.

      • davienne

        coffee spit allert…. after i cleaned my puter off… now i can answer… after a woman has peed her pants and between vomits and choking on the whistle being shoved down her throat and choking her, then can she pull out her gun…

        • Here’s the new issue weapon for all of emotionally distressed women in Colorado

          • OneThinDime

            That’s great!

          • davienne

            too funny… i went to order one… all out of stock already, big back order…. LOL..

          • davienne

            too funny… i went to order one… all out of stock already, big back order…. LOL..

        • OneThinDime

          Sorry about the puter….how these idiots get elected confuses me…

          • davienne

            i give up… im tired of beating my head against the wall trying to get an answer to that question…

          • davienne

            i give up… im tired of beating my head against the wall trying to get an answer to that question…

  • c4pfan

    Then they need to get rid of having people protecting them with guns first, then we will talk to them about giving up our rights to defend ourselves!

  • KenInMontana

    A beginner can reload in less than two seconds, a practiced shooter much less;

    Addendum: Here is a practiced professional, using a revolver;

    • Rshill7

      Regarding that revolver guy in the second clip: Oh…Em…Geee.

      • KenInMontana

        I got to see Miculek (using a revolver) out shoot the the grand champion of the time, who was using a semi-auto racegun. They fired the same amount of shots, Miculek was using a S&W 357 Magnum with a 7 shot cylinder. The man is something else to watch.

    • UnCL3

      LOL I knew it was gonna be Miculek in the 2nd vid.

  • DCGere

    You just can’t make up this stuff. Liberalism IS a mental disorder.

  • Dukehoopsfan

    No thanks bubba, I’m sticking with the pea shooter. Thank you very much.

    • Rshill7

      Calm down with that. You could put someone’s eye out.

      Just wear a kevlar bikini and hope they aim for your privates.

      Or…just be rubber and let them be glue and whatever they shoot bounces off of you and sticks to them 🙂

  • tinlizzieowner

    “Colorado legislator: You don’t need guns to defend yourselves, just wait for the gunman to reload”.

    So, let me see, would that make one time dead or five times dead? Are you faster than a speeding bullet, Supermoron. 😉

  • famouswolf

    What the hell?

    I’m not John McClane.

    • virginiagentleman1

      WOLF!!! It’s great to see ya here posting! VG

      • famouswolf

        Hey, VG. Get well, man. I think you’re going to be needed shortly now.

        • virginiagentleman1

          I’m trying to bro.

  • Jesse, you and six of your personal friends , even strangers for this demonstration, enter a room with a person holding a loaded six shooter. Six loads, seven deadly pens. Of course, Mr. Ulilibari, this is all hypothetical, there are no pens, no model 29. So don’t show me how it’s done.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    His constituents ought to buy that dude a one-way ticket to Afghanistan with a box of brand new ball point pens…..and see how he makes out over there!!!!

    • TexasPGRRider

      Bic used to make a Really Stout tube type ballpoint. Quite Durable….

      • Army_Pilot1967

        LOL……that’s right and those pens weren’t terribly expensive as I recall. So his constituents could buy him a bunch of ’em.

    • OneThinDime

      Since he’s a Dem they should give he old pens to comply with their reduce, reuse, recycle

  • aliswell

    Hey, I’m all in. Just as soon as you can give me a real life demonstration of exactly how that’s done, Son.

  • TexasPGRRider

    I`ve been wonderin` why i`ve accumulated all those ball point pens thru the years…guess I don`t realize how Protected I am. I also have More than one pair of scissors !!!!

  • sjmom

    Now that’s a fair fight; a gunman and a ballpoint pen! Okay, so they took the fool away in a strait jacket, right?????? Whew!

    • TexasPGRRider

      I think he`s on his way to a Hank Johnson “Guam May Capsize” seminar….

  • notsofastthere

    With proper sensitivity training we should arm citizens with spare tea and crumpets. This way, at intermission time, between firing and reloading the madman can discuss his grievances.

  • virginiagentleman1

    How is it that this youngster is a ‘state legislator’, and not a patient at the ‘state mental hospital’ in Pueblo? Was everyone stoned on election day? Just askin’.

    • sDee

      It is what happens when you keep you mexican population speaking Spanish and undereducated, and give illegals driver licenses. They vote.

      from Wikipedia
      Jessie Ulibarri is an American social justice activist and politician from Colorado. A Democrat, Ulibarri serves in the Colorado Senate representing District 21 in Adams County.

      Ulibarri was elected to the senate in 2012, beating Republican Francine Bigelow 64%-36%.[1] His candidacy was endorsed by the Colorado Conservation Voters and the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund.

      • white531

        We have those conversations on a pretty regular basis here in Tucson.

        Here’s the question you need to ask. “What is the difference between immigrants from other countries, and immigrants from Mexico and other countries south of Mexico?”

        The answer is, the ones from Mexico and the Central American countries see no need to learn English. They are not coming to America for a better life. They are not coming to America to join us in Freedom. They are coming to America for all the free stuff we offer them, as soon as they cross the border.

        As long as we keep doing that, they will keep coming. Obama wants to keep doing that, for obvious reasons.

    • toongoon

      It really doesn’t take much to win an election as a Democrat, all you have to do is tell people that you are going to take their rights away and people will vote for you five or six times.

  • UnCL3

    OK, puto, you first!

  • UnCL3

    Let’s all make suicide vests of bics and show up at this idiot’s next speech.

  • Wigglesworth


  • Yeah that’s it, I’ll just do the matrix bullet dodge..

  • 57thunderbird

    Liberals are brain dead zombies.

    • tinlizzieowner

      You mean like this? 😉

      • 57thunderbird

        LOL!!Exactly like that! :-):-)

        • tinlizzieowner

          While I’m at it you want to hear some words that would never be spoken in a liberal neighborhood these days?

  • warpmine

    Updated comment: “I am a husband and father of two beautiful girls, and I’ve spent the last decade defending women’s rights as a civil rights attorney. Again, I’m deeply sorry if I offended anyone with my comments.”

    No moron, what you’ve defended was for your daughters to have unfettered sexual relations with anyone without any repercussions.

    • OneThinDime

      “a civil rights attorney” wanting to take away civil rights. Yup, must be a Dem

  • 57thunderbird

    Are all the males in the demonrat party members of the new castrate?

    • white531

      Apparently so.

  • At least one of the citizens that brought Giffords shooter down, WAS ARMED. He decided to not shoot because there were too many people beyond his target. He then participated in the tackle and submission of the gunman.

    Mr Colorado legislature, you are not only wrong, but ignorant.

  • hachie1

    I know that psycho, rogue, ex-lapd nut in socal had to stop and reload at least once while holed up in that cabin. Why didn’t the cops just wait and rush him then? /s.

  • There’s only one way to prove his theory, some one allow him to support his argument.

  • I am distressed that my state has been overrun by imbeciles. We all must suffer from these ignorant libs and the lemmings that voted them into office. Our only hope is a strong showing in 2014.

  • NJK
    Oh Boy!!!
    One talks about waiting for a criminal to reload to save yourself and another says that women can’t be trusted with guns because they might get emotional if they just think that they might be raped and then they’ll shoot some unsuspecting guy. Idiots I tell you…Idiots! They make Todd Akin look good.

  • Godisright

    I can reload my handgun faster than you can take your ballpoint pen out of your pocket protector Mr. Idiot!
    I am not laughing. It’s is people like this fellow legislating citizen’s rights null and void.
    The blood of the victims is on the hands of this type of heartless human.

  • gracepmc

    This plus the other imbecile dem comment on rape is what you get when the VP of the US personally inserts himself into state politics. Plus stupid all on their own. Good luck Colorado.

  • fishmonster

    There is no debate; I have my guns and I will keep them.

  • cabensg

    I realize this is a hopeless wish but just once, just one time I’d like to hear a Democrat say something useful, truthful and not completely insane. Their insanity is what causes sane people to go insane.

  • Charm4sure

    Colorado dems have finally made it. They are starting to sound like California dems. Shallow ability to think. Inability to assess thinking.

    • Kordane

      Yeah, but they have the advantage of being perceived as being the party of science, of intellectuality, of modernity, of human progress, etc.

      So no matter how freaking irrational some of them are, they know that their opponents are perceived as even more irrational because they believe in fairy tales like God.

      It’s not good enough just to call them irrational. They will just shrug it off.

  • tjp77

    The stupidity is astounding. I guess we should all just hope that our attackers have bad aim and are slow to reload. Sounds like a legit plan to me.

  • lanahi

    Gosh, he’s counting on that gunman to have that horrible of an aim?

  • colliemum

    Ok, since those politicians regard themselves as our betters, who can tell us from a great height what to do, may I kindly suggest that they provide us with a personal example.

    So let them all be dis-armed, let them all be deprived of their body-guards, around their precious persons as well as around their homes.
    Then give them a biro each – well, give them two or three, don’t wanna be churlish, and let’s see how they do, defending themselves.

    • OneThinDime

      And when the politician is male, their wives and daughters must be used. Gotta wonder if he leaves his family undefended.

      • colliemum

        No – he’s given them whistles and biros, to use when attacked.


  • Philo Beddoe

    Moron is a understatement

  • JoeMontana16

    So you can’t protect yourself with anything. Here in Texas you can’t even have a baseball bat in the backseat of your car unless you have a baseball glove also. A bat alone is called a deadly weapon. I have a telescopic police baton in my car but found out I can’t carry that in my car either…you guessed it…its a deadly weapon also. Of course it is and that’s what I’m hoping a criminal will think. So how do you protect yourself? A butter knife?

  • 1endtimes2020

    If the gunman knew most of the people surrounding Gifford had a gun, he probably would not have pulled his gun out to shoot her.
    No one said, after he shot her, “wait everyone, until he reloads. Then, let’s rush him”.

    • OneThinDime

      19 were shot, 6 killed so I guess it took too long for him to have to reload /sarc

    • OneThinDime

      19 were shot, 6 killed so I guess it took too long for him to have to reload /sarc

  • You stinking rat!
    You talk about “saving lives”, but what about those “lives” THAT WERE ALREADY TAKEN, BEFORE THAT FOOL ‘HAD TO RELOAD’????

  • Assuming you haven’t already been KILLED by the time the gunman is ready to re-load. Just stupid.

  • debw777

    I think these people have watched too many cartoons. They don’t understand how life works in the real world. You can’t get shot full of holes and then tackle the bad guy, you can’t get run over, flattened like a pancake, then peel yourself off the pavement. We need to ban cartoons in the future, until we can develop an educational system that explains to the tykes the difference between being a real person and a cartoon character.

    This may also explain the President’s spending problem…you can’t spend 2, 3, 4 times as much money as you have, not have a plan to pay your debts, without having your credit cards taken away.

  • i say ban all ballpoint pens…!!! assclown…!!!

  • WOW!

  • Ugh….. Seriously? So wait until they kill half a dozen people to do something about it? Anything to push their own liberal agenda.

  • Maybe a pocket protector to keep the ball point friends quickly available to protect me and my family.

  • mikeinidaho

    I sincerely hope that this idiot gets to prove or disprove this theory of his personally!

  • gsdudo

    Unbelievable! This is what passes for serious debate these days. What really frightens me is that this person and others who think (I use the term loosely) like him, are allowed to vote and drive cars!

  • I think he has watched way too many movies.

  • How do these morons get into Government?

  • snowshooze

    Remember, they are all smoking dope.

  • Obama and Bush killed thousands with ball point pens by authorizing wars for their corporate puppet masters