‘Ban on the private sale of firearms’ – Colorado to vote on strong gun control measures starting tomorrow

Democrats outnumber Republicans in both the Colorado House and Senate so it seems likely they could pass the following laws that they’ve already given preliminary approval too on Saturday in the House:

  • Banning the purchase of magazines that hold more than 15 rounds
  • Tax on all purchases of guns
  • Ban on the private sale of firearms
  • Universal background checks

I hate all of them above, but a ban on private sale of firearms is really way over the line. They can’t constitutionally ban you from selling your private property. Something is either illegal to buy and sell or it’s not.


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  • Retired_Coach

    I’ll stay in Texas, thank you very much.

    • DCGere

      I think I want to move there!

      WA State senate wrote a gun control bill that includes police coming to your house to see if gun is stored safely. Bill will likely die yet libs will keep trying, I’m sure.

      • Retired_Coach

        Come on down DCGere! Lots of folks moving into this great state. Like him or not, our governor is a master at recruiting businesses away from both coasts, especially CA. It’s good for the TX economy but it’s not so good for the political environment. They move their businesses to escape oppressive regulations and high business taxes but they still have that liberal disease as they still vote for democrats. Not sure if they are low-info voters or hypocrites.

        • DCGere

          I’m seriously considering it when my boyfriend gets done w/tour in the sandbox. He was originally stationed in TX so good chance he can go back there. I’ve had enough of the looney libs here in WA ST!

          • TexasPGRRider

            We HONOR the company of Patriots DC !!! Next time ya`ll talk, Please Thank him for His Service and MY FREEDOM !!! Lord, Please Bless our Troops, wherever they are….

            • DCGere

              Thank you kind sir:)

        • UnCL3

          We don’t need any more lefties in TX. Move here, fine…but vote the right way!

          If you insist on coming as a liberal, the concentration camp for you fools is
          Travis County. Stay put!

          • Retired_Coach

            Right you are UnCL3…Travis County (Austin) that great bastion of liberalism! Where all the tech companies are relocating from the west coast. DCGere: Tell that boyfriend of yours that we thank him ever so much for his service.

            • DCGere

              Thanks Coach, will do!

          • Betsey_Ross

            Right you are. We’ve had the same problem in the Shenandoah Valley. For some reason people from NJ love to come here because of the mountains. It is beautiful here, but they just can’t seem to get over their NJ voting ways. Don’t they notice taxes are better here? Don’t they get it that Republicans although terribly flawed do a better job of governing? NO, they don’t. LoFoVo. We have much education to do.

            • UnCL3

              education and eradication, imo.

        • rsfan1

          I’d love to move to Texas, if only I could convince my wife. I have a question, how liberal is Dallas? I see it, along with Travis and Harris county went to Obama. Not good.

          • eighthnote

            Dallas Proper does tend liberal. But the county, suburbs, and the surrounding counties are all conservative. Lived here all of my life. Do plan to move to the outliers, BFE, as soon as possible though. Just so I can shoot my guns on my own terms!

            • Retired_Coach

              Right you are eightnote. Dallas proper is not unlike most any other urban area. Northern Dallas County, Rockwall, Collin and Denton counties are all conservative with conservative reps in the house, the state house and city/county officials. Gee, I wonder why those 3 counties are among the fastest growing counties in the US? Good night folks, this coach is only retired from coaching. I’ve got a business to run in the morning. Good night all and may God save us.

          • Unfortunately most of Harris County is taken up by Houston. Anything within the larger cities limits tend to be more liberal. Most conservatives live out in the northwest part of Harris county in Rep Ted Poe country. Keep in mind, however, that anything considered ‘liberal’ in Texas is nothing compared to the head-exploding, foaming mouth liberal rants on the Northeast and West coasts!

            However, I would definitely advise against moving along southern border of the state unless you have Spanish as your primary language.

          • Looking at a red/blue map of the election results, Forth Worth is much redder than Dallas. Houston is fairly red, still.

            The Southern “border” counties are as blue as Al Gore’s unreleased, Second Chakra.

            • Kelly60

              Agree K-Bob…Dallas is liberal and considered new money and eclectic. Fort Worth is considered “Cowtown” and old money…at least that’s the way I was brought up ’round here.

        • NJK

          Let’s just call them morons instead of low information voters. Maybe Gov. Perry should stipulate that if they come to TX, they need to read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and pass a test before being allowed to move there.

      • NJK

        Wow, violate the II Amendment and the IV.

      • Kelly60

        Yes, Yes, I agree with Coach! Come on down, we’d love to have you!

    • I am trying to convince my wife it is time to move my business to Texas! I think I am close to convincing her that my stock traders room can operate from anywhere in the world. We live in Colorado and it is going to you know where in a handbasket. Oh and thank you California for ruining our great state of Colorado, the migration out of California continues. With that the destruction of more states on the rise.

      Even better would be moving to a state that would secede the union, but that is in a perfect world. Can you imagine that?

  • tinker_thinker

    Let the lawsuits begin!

  • misterlogic0013

    to few have to much … POWER .. never stand ..

  • Wow, hey idiots, criminals don’t abide by the laws…

    and by idiots I’m referring to the Colorado legislators.

    • notsofastthere

      and what mental category do we give the voters who put those idiots in office???

      • Illegals…

        • keyesforpres

          I was just about to post that when I saw you beat me to it. I lived in Colorado in the mid to late 90’s and we were inundated with them then. They were horrible to women. Disgusting acting. I read a few years ago they estimate there are around 800,000 illegals in Colorado. Staggering when you consider most folks live right along the front range and along the I-70 corridor.

        • keyesforpres

          One more thing, Colorado used to go Republican…again, illegals and pot smokin’ imports from other states that want to catch some fat air and then go smoke a fatty.

    • Joengima

      Idiots are those who think you can LEGALLY stop someone from ILLEGALLY using a gun.

  • Rshill7

    Democrats just can’t seem to get the rise out of us they have been looking for. Just opinion of course, but don’t you get the feeling they have been trying to? Yes, stay in Texas Retired_Coach. I understand Texas has been looking into how they could/would move forward without Federal help. I’m wondering how the Fed would move anywhere without the taxpayers.

    This gun issue should peel away some democrats that really don’t understand why they are democrats. They haven’t been paying attention, until the Government attempts to come at them. Now they are opening their eyes somewhat, and are saying huh? Oh no you will not. These rights are not yours to infringe upon Mr. Government. They are God-bestowed birthright. If you can not or will not protect them, we’ll find or build a Government that will.

  • notsofastthere

    It doesn’t look good. For those 2nd amendment people who say “they aren’t gonna take my guns away” Well – Colorado, New York, Chicago, and CT. have taken that step toward doing it.
    Where are the demonstrations of gun owners. This isn’t good news

    • serfer62

      Not…there has been NO enforcement yet

    • That’s why I refuse to say “from my cold-dead hands”…because unlike 10 years ago, that phrase may very well come to pass, and suddenly an almost illogical, unfathomable possibility has become a very real, almost PROBABLY near-term circumstance…

      Suddenly, we are forced to ask ourselves not just how far are we willing to go, but are we willing to be the first…

      • notsofastthere

        Brian, you have it exactly right. The writing is on the walls. The unthinkable has arrived and it’s no laughing matter.
        Obama says he will act on his own if congress doesn’t go along with him, and congress doesn’t get upset. Democrat controlled states are fulfilling his will on the local level.

      • Patrick Henry was not just blowing smoke. He meant it.

        We have to mean it, or we’re China; or worse, North Korea.

    • savageob1

      the 223 rally(as in feb 23rd) go to dayofresistance.com at the bottom of the page you will see ‘official rally list’. you do not have to log in to see the list!

  • Watchman74

    So guns bad, weed good.

    • NJK

      Don’t forget murder of full term babies in the womb.

  • DCGere

    Marijuana legal, 20 rounds bad. This is messed up.

    I’d like to know how they plan to prohibit private sales. They obviously don’t understand the meaning of “private”. Sheesh.

    • notsofastthere

      Do not underestimate the craftiness of government. They don’t care about private sale of a gun. They are only interested in control, fines, imprisonment and someone to blame. They can institute mandatory registration, then routine proof that you still have the gun in your possession.

  • Time to take a stand Coloradans. If you don’t, don’t blame anyone else when your state becomes like Chicago.
    Stand on the God given rights imbedded in the Constitution- do not let your government take away something they have NO RIGHT to touch!

    • notsofastthere

      They are coming for the guns, coming for the children, and coming after traditional Americans.

      • They can try, but they’ll be in for a rude awakening from a whole lot of traditional Americans.

  • Sandra123456

    … and so how do these new laws prevent criminals from using illegal weapons?

    Sounds like a lot of infringing going on.

    “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Yea, right.

  • serfer62

    Yeah, regulate private sales

    • notsofastthere

      Yeah, I laughed too when they said they would fine people for not wearing a seat belt
      When I scolded my daughter for misbehaving, she told the teacher and I got a visit from Child Services Protection. I laughed when the Supreme Court said burning the flag was a protected right. I laughed when they said you can get arrested for DUI for having one glass of wine when dining out. I laughed when Obama ran for president.
      It was a hard lesson, but I’m not laughing so much anymore.
      We are living under a corrupt government who will stop at nothing to get control.

      • TexasPGRRider

        THAT my friend, is a sad fact….

      • ryanomaniac

        You couldn’t be more right.

      • AllantheK

        After watching the YouTube vid on blue and red dots the other day, I fear we are a looong way down the wrong road already. Salvaging what we can is a good place to start and build our foothold and then start pushing back… to the sea.

  • Rshill7

    Tinker_Thinker above said, “Let the lawsuits begin”.

    Yes, before the court lurches further leftward.

    Is the Government (State and Fed) jumping the gun, so to speak, or is it the shark?

    The citizens are watching. Politicians, do you really want to go there? If you go there, surely some would be inclined to leave you there. The grassroots can choke out the weeds, anytime they see fit.

    The progressives like to strike while the iron is hot. The citizenry should realize they can make the iron hot by striking. What does that mean? Many varied things.

    Government: Back off and stand down. It isn’t worth it. You ain’t gettin’ the guns. Deal with it and tack about. You will sail no further in this direction. You don’t need to ask Ripley. You certainly don’t need to ask any of our Founders, or those who revere them.

    Just believe it. Don’t demand proof.

  • 27Words

    Hey Minnesotans… WE’RE NEXT… It’s time Sven, Ole and Lena let their voices be heard! Contact your legislators! In person, on the phone via one of the excellent email sights at the NRA, Ruger, Smith & Wesson among others… With a Democratic legislature and one of the looniest Democratic govenors ever.. Hold onto your wallet and your guns, they’re coming for both !!!!

  • Colorado stand up and fight for your rights and your freedom. Just remember disarming the people the government will have control over people. It’s happened in the past don’t let it happen to us.

  • tinlizzieowner

    Fine Colorado, go ahead and do it. May those of you who to choose live without the sword (and legislate against it), be the first to die from the actions of the criminals with the sword.
    ‘The 2nd Amendment, America’s original ‘Homeland Security’.

  • NJK

    And they just legalized Marijuana, and I assume killing late term babies in the womb is fine with them also? The citizens should ignore the law. Also, gun manufacturers need to stop selling any firearms or ammunition to the state of CO, also to the Federal Govt.

    These so called politicians are law breakers.

  • m0r0

    No guns, more weed. Sounds like a plan!

  • Joe

    John Hickenlooper is a demoCRAP – No chance of veto

    There will be a run on guns there this week!

  • tundra

    I think if we keep inviting folks to Texas, we’ll end up being like Colorado in time. No thanks,….you guys wanted to live there, so enjoy your bed. Stay there. Solve your problems by electing intelligent folks to office.

    • rsfan1

      Believe me, we try. But here in Illinois, republican votes don’t count.

    • ryanomaniac

      Amen. I don’t want Californians coming to Texas. Liberals are a cancer. They destroy everything in there path. It doesn’t take many of them either.

  • Obama wants to protect little kids by taking guns away from good guys. How about disarming gangs that kill kids. Just saying don’t take offense I think all kids need to be protected. But honest law-abiding gun owners should not be blamed.
    Good luck tomorrow Colorado

  • Yazz55

    Does a “tax” on the purchase of guns “infringe” on the right to bear arms?

  • TexasPGRRider

    Good Luck in the War….

  • 3seven77

    What the hell happened to Colorado? As part of the Rocky Mountain west it used to be a decent state. Now it seems like it belongs with the pinheads on the west coast or in the NE. Very, very sad.

  • Jim Botts

    All you gun owners in CO that vote democrat? YOU DESERVE IT!

    Tancredo would never sign such a bill. TOO LATE NOW!

  • famouswolf

    On the subject of gun control and resistance thereof, are any here going to the Resistance Rallies on the 23rd?

    I’m thinking about going to the one in Kirkland, WA and was wondering if any posters here would also be there.

    • TexasPGRRider

      GREAT IDEA. I haven`t heard anything about the RR But Am ALL FOR IT !! PLEASE TELL US MORE !!!!

      • famouswolf

        Have a look at 2ndenforcers.org

        It seems militia groups are forming, around the country. This is one is in Washington state. For now, the goal is peaceful rallies, and organized protest of bad legislation (you can see a call to fight a crappy piece of legislation in WA right now on their website). They only started organizing last month, and this group calls itself 2nd Enforcers.

        Follow the links and you will find a list of rally sites all over the country on the 23rd of this month. Last I saw there were over 50,000 people coming. Everyone here, check it out. It is on the anniversary of the flag raising on Iwo Jima, and the caliber of the 5.56 mm- .223. The stated purpose of the rallies is to resist obama’s plans and intentions for us all.

        The organizers are suggesting bringing signs done on poster board, and dressing well (no camos, etc.).

        So it begins.

        • TexasPGRRider

          THANKS for the info & Link…WUFF WUFF !!!!

      • waytngtym

        May I ask an unrelated question here? (My work schedule doesn’t put me here at regular times much.) Did anyone here review Allen West’s new show — “Next Generation” yet? Don’t we need to support him? I have looked but didn’t find..

        Thx Tex. appreciate your comments.

        • TexasPGRRider

          Try PJTV.com for help W/Col. West

  • Constitution101

    Rep Fields: most of these shooters were Democrats… ban Democrats from getting guns.

  • PatrickHenrysBody

    Another reason for me not to live in Colorado. Lived there once, but it became too expensive to stay. Moved to Wyoming. Love it in Wyoming and am staying put. They seem to care about the Constitution in Wyoming more than the authoritarian loons in Colorado do. If I want to go to Colorado for any reason, it’s only less than a two hour drive to Denver for me.

    • TexasPGRRider

      Spent most of last year in Wyoming. Stayed in Rawlins, worked at BP Wamsutter. Wide open spaces with warmhearted and friendly Patriots !!!

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Glad you enjoyed your stay! Thank you! The same can be said of Texas. If only Austin and Houston could be their own states, that would carve out a huge chunk leftists loons there.

  • Kordane

    The root of the problem is that they got away with establishing the precedent that rights are not unalienable, and this is one of the results of that.

    I also find that a big problem is how people are only trying to “defend” gun rights, rather than “demanding” gun rights be restored. If you’re always on the defensive, rather than offensive, then you’re going to get hit and go down eventually.

    • clockwindingdown

      Very much on point Kordane. I suggest the good people of Colorado legally go after the individuals that are pushing to take away their second amendment rights.

      Take the battle to their front yard, make them out to be criminal they are, hold them accountable in the court of public appeal.

      The left does this constantly, and gets away with it, such as protestors at the homes of bank managers… Well what is good for the goose and all that…

      “First they come for the guns, then they’ll come for your pot”, that should get some action started… LOL!

      • TexasPGRRider

        YO Father Time…”First they come for the guns, then they`ll come for your pot”….PRICELESS !!!! HEADSNAPS ABOUND THROUGHOUT HILLSIDES….

        • clockwindingdown

          Exactly, get their attention!

          “How will you protect your pot when they come for it? Support gun rights!”, these are the signs people need to make, link the two if needed to gain support, works for the left… LOL

    • famouswolf

      That’s for sure. The best way to lose a war is to let the enemy keep you on the defensive.

      And people may just be reaching the breaking point- see my post below about the Resistance Rallies next Saturday.

    The English version of Pravda (yeah it’s still around) thought it necessary to remind us of the historical fact that in 1917 the first move the Red Army made was to take away all privately held guns. This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington’s clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently. . Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or “talking to them”, it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

  • colliemum

    One consequence of that law has been published on the weekend:



    Denver, Colorado – February 15th, 2013 – Magpul Industries, an Erie, Colorado, based manufacturer of firearms accessories, announced today that it will be forced to leave the state if House Bill 1224, which would ban standard capacity magazines, becomes law. The announcement was made to Governor Hickenlooper, state legislators, members of the media, and in a full-page advertisement to appear in the Denver Post on Sunday.”””

    Read the rest here:

  • Who would have thought that Colorado would end up being a Communist State? Is Utah next? Did the illegals put these Communists in power?

  • But you can smoke weed……

  • These democrats are outlaws! typical democrats willing to violate their oath of office and should be removed from office.


  • 57thunderbird

    I don’t understand.If gun rights come from the Bill of Rights than how can states issue there own laws in this arena.It is no different than states not being allowed to have their own immigration laws.Enough with this assault on our Second Amendment rights!This is a God given right,not a right issued by the state!

  • chatterbox365

    This will go all the way to the Supreme Court if it passes. I hope all this backfires. Rat [email protected]!

  • Sober_Thinking

    Blatant disregard for the U.S. Constitution.

    This is going to blow up in their faces in a huge way.

  • savageob1

    first, sorry for the caps, but this is important!


    DAY OF RESISTANCE SATURDAY FEBRUARY 23RD! for locations go to:


    you DO NOT need to log in, go to the bottom of the page and click on ‘official rally list’ for locations.

    • savageob1

      I will be there, will you?

      • savageob1

        if not, why?

    • famouswolf

      I will be.

      Kirkland, WA.

  • Don

    The thing that will always be a part of American history is we become complacent and allow liberals to erode our freedoms. We wake up and stop their ignorance and move on. Gun control may be that awakening. The democrats in Colorado, feeling they are so much smarter than their constituents, will go as far as their voters will let them. Flush the heathens and elect representives to repeal and bring order to your state. Unless the people do that, they deserve what ever subservience the libearls impose on them.

  • Will not help if people just don’t obey the law. Same thing happened during Prohibition. If people just don’t pay any attention to the law, how will either the state or the Federal government enforce it? They can’t put the whole country in jail, or even a major part of it (as was the case during Prohibition). If they are silly enough to pass this law, I just think people will ignore it, especially those who live on ranches and farms.

  • sDee

    I’ve been looking for AR-15 lowers. I just ordered some from the link blow – new old stock less than 200 available. I have never ordered form them before but AR lowers are hard to find. THEY WILL NOT LAST LONG. $190 (retail new was $175)

    For those of you not familiar with ARs, the lowers are the critical AR part you have to buy through an FFL. All the other parts to build an any type/budget AR15, are available without background checks through thousands of suppliers. It cannot hurt to have a few AR loewrs stuffed away for future needs.

    They will take your order and contact you later for an FFL to ship to – very easy process to find FFLs if you have never done it. Usually any local gin shop.

    This on look to be multi-caliber for .223/5.56, 9mm and 45ACP

    The are Sabre Defense and appear to have been made by Cav Arms, both military suppliers.
    some info here on ar15 dot com
    and here

    I recall Mike saying here on TRS he does not like the polymer lowers but I cannot find any real disadvantage over the aluminum lowers and quite a few advantages. Here is an interesting story:

    I’ve no interest her other than an FYI. I know nothing about any of these companies>. I suggest you do you own research

  • I’m looking at real estate this morning in Galveston-been in CO for over 40 years and it’s sickening what I’ve seen happen here.

  • Joengima

    Let them pass this.

    And when another shooting happens, perhaps we can rise up and say once and for all, THAT DOESN’T WORK!

    It’s infuriating how it seems we always lose the arguments on issues we’re most passionate about.

    • sDee

      There is no memory among the masses beyond a few weeks, unless the propaganda media provides it.

  • anneinarkansas

    Gun dealers and manufacturere should depart Colorado for friendly ground.

    • savageob1
    • Bryan Ewbank

      As I understand it, that is exactly what is happening now. Manufacturers are leaving (or say they will leave) the state as a result of this “law”. Wonder if we can woo them to NC – we need the jobs.

    • Bryan Ewbank

      As I understand it, that is exactly what is happening now. Manufacturers are leaving (or say they will leave) the state as a result of this “law”. Wonder if we can woo them to NC – we need the jobs.

  • warpmine

    Make no mistake, the NRA will challenge most of the restrictions in court especially the banning of private sales. As for the rest of it, well, you Coloradans allowed this via the elections so you’ll have to live with it.


    …isn’t TYRANNY GREAT ! N O T ! I can hardly wait for the 2014 mid term elections it will be our last stand as LIBERTY PATRIOTS for if we do not rally the base to get out on VOTE in 2014 ,”THIS COUNTRY IS LOST.” (period)

  • Just exactly how do they think they are going to stop private sales? They can’t stop illegals guns now!

    Absolute idiots.

  • tinlizzieowner

    Alfonzo Rachel nails it again but you’re going to have to subscribe to PJTV (like I do) to see it. 🙁
    Unless Scoop want’s to link it here.

  • physicsnut

    what do you expect when a pea-brain at DailyKos says this:
    The constitutional right to own and carry firearms, now encoded in the United States thanks to the judicial activism of the right wing extremists of the Roberts Court, is unique among economically developed democratic nations. It stands in bloody contrast to the evolution of humanity, with all other economically developed democracies strictly regulating private ownership of firearms, and in some cases effectively banning it. But for now, in the United States, the individual right to own and carry firearms is a constitutional right. And yet, even in the United States, it is a unique constitutional right. It is an anomaly both among economically developed democracies and it is an anomaly among constitutional rights in the United States. It is, in fact, an abomination.
    well, we know they don’t care about the US constitution – just the Soviet one.

  • It’s a sad day in Colorado on your 2nd Amendment..

  • Let’s see how pro-gun Colorado Democrats are. I’m watching.

  • Godel Fishbreath

    Utah, if a report is to be belived, is very pro gun.
    On the other hand, one ex-coastie and ex-pro gun friend is making a distinction between the crimiinal and the crazy — saying that while the criminal can work the streets and get illegal guns, the crazy is less able to function in society, and less able to do the same.