Egyptian army chief warns the state of Egypt could collapse over political crisis

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This story is all over the print media this morning and it’s looking more and more like Egypt could eventually devolve into a civil war. These protests just haven’t yielded since Morsi rammed through his Sharia Constitution – in fact they seem to be fueling themselves. Remember, these are the same people who just a couple of years ago overthrew the last regime. They know they power of protest:

YAHOO NEWS — Egypt’s army chief warned Tuesday that the state could collapse if the latest political crisis roiling the nation drags on but also defended the right of people to protest.

Troops deployed in the two riot-torn Suez Canal cities of Port Said and Suez stood by and watched Monday night as thousands took to the streets in direct defiance of a night curfew and a state of emergency declared by the president a day earlier. Residents of those two cities and Ismailiya, a third city also the emergency, marched through the streets just as the curfew came into force at 9 p.m.

The display of contempt for the president’s decision was tantamount to an outright rebellion that many worried could spread to other parts of the country. Already, protesters across much of Egypt are battling police, cutting off roads and railway lines, and besieging government offices and police stations as part of a growing revolt against the rule of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood group.

At least 60 people have been killed since Friday.

Morsi’s opponents protest that Islamists have monopolized power and not lived up to the ideals of the pro-democracy uprising that ousted authoritarian leader Hosni Mubarak nearly two years ago.

“The continuation of the conflict between the different political forces and their differences over how the country should be run could lead to the collapse of the state and threaten future generations,” said the army chief, Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who is both head of the military and defense minister.


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  • Philo Beddoe

    I’ve always said there would be a time the Egyptians would dream of having Mubarak back.

    That time is near

    • BlueGood

      Funny I was just contemplating the other day, a major dust up when the Radical Muslem Brotherhoody’s try to block off the Suez Canal….BILLIONS go through there every day…and no doubt the Radicals would love to mess it up for the West….

      We shall prevail…..

    • Nukeman60

      I can see the billboard now – a picture of Bush and Mubarak with their arms around each others’ shoulders and the quote, “Do you miss me yet?”

    • sDee

      There are only two steady states in a muslim country:
      – Brutal dictatorship to suppress sharia…..or
      – Brutal sharia theocracy

      Everything else is a state of transition between them

  • Dear leader must be proud. I wonder, will he get another Nobel Peace prize?

    • Nukeman60

      I think Obama is pushing the Nobel Prize in Literature for his teleprompter speeches. They have parted the waters of our political seas, after all.

    • Orangeone

      He’s in line behind Morsi 🙂

  • Conniption Fitz

    Look out world – Kerry was just approved. So America has a matched pair – anti-American POTUS and SOS.

    • clockwindingdown

      We’ve had that for four years, yep its worked really well so far… Look at the mess it created in Egypt. How many will die, how many by the weapons we are sending them.

      What happened to all the war protestors when Bush was in office?

      • MiketheMarine

        Remember that because of Bush, Israel played it cool. They have no reason to play it safe anymore. If Egypt falls into any further chaos, then Israel may just wipe them out. One less enemy to deal with in the future.

        According to Sun Tsu, attacking while they are weak is the way to victory.

      • Suzyqpie

        Gone are the war protesters, Cindy Sheehan, the homeless, and the AIDS hoi pollloi. Remember Guantanamo? The horror of water boarding? Now our Nobel peace prize winning drone fleet commander is roaming the globe. And his Kill List is fine? Well dandy, how egalitarian is that? How does The Left square this hypocrisy?

        • clockwindingdown

          “How does The Left square this hypocrisy?”

          The left doesn’t, they ignore their hypocrisy, should someone shine light on it the media will quickly put the light out.

    • Orangeone

      One less Dem to vote on legislation! Trying to see an upside.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Re: Egypt – What do you think all those American tanks are for?

    Answer: To turn Tahrir into Tiananmen.

  • deeme

    If a Republican was President this would be all his fault..especially considering the Arab Spring…I could see them replaying the pictures of the murdered , over and over.I can hear them saying the Middle East is on fire and it’s , it’s Bush’s fault….yes Mubarak was a bad bad man, and Morsi is ,well” their guy”…

  • mikeinidaho

    funny, we haven’t heard too much about the vaunted “Arab Spring” lately have we.
    Where are all those DC Insiders Neocons and buttkissers like Bill Kristol who assured us that Obama’s plan for the Middle East would result in democracy breaking out all over the place? Looks more and more like chaos, disorder, civil war and the rough beginnings of a Caliphate, huh? Maybe Glenn Beck wasn’t so crazy after all!

    • barney59

      Beck: Crazy like a Fox.

    • Suzyqpie

      The whole arab spring freedom tableau, all I could think of was, do they not know they are moslems living in a moslem country??? Freedom in islam, really, where?

  • MiketheMarine

    Then Israel can step in and wipe them from the map. Trust me, the world will be a better place without islam.

  • aposematic

    Hey Egyptian Arab Springers, how’s that trading an Autocracy for a Theocracy working out for ya?

    • Suzyqpie

      Ditto Syria. Moslem-Dictator-Musical-Chairs? Which moslem dictator gets American taxpayer money to your Swiss bank acct next? See Arafat or Mubarak.

  • barney59

    Muslim Brotherhood Brother Obama, takin’ care of his ‘peeps in the MB/Egypt with some new planes and tanks to crush those pesky ‘pro-democracy’ protestors. Can’t be holdin’ up the Caliphate, he say.

  • Nukeman60

    “The continuation of the conflict between the different political forces and their differences over how the country should be run could lead to the collapse of the state and threaten future generations.” – Egyptian Army chief

    It’s interesting that the path Egypt is taking could lead to civil war and this path was created and supported by Obama. In the same token, the path our country is taking, created and supported by Obama, could very well end the same way.

    Is anyone surprised?

    • Orangeone

      No I’m not surprised and I wonder when Egypt will use his F-16s to attack America. Remember, Joe Biden said we can absorb another 9/11. And that would be Barky’s opening to declare martial law. With illegal alien amnesty, his illegals terrorists in our nation will be citizens.

      • Nukeman60

        ‘…I wonder when Egypt will use his F-16s to attack America.’ – OrangeOne

        They won’t. They don’t have enough and when they attack Israel, they won’t have any.

        • Orangeone

          If they never arrive in Egypt but become the property of Egypt, they don’t need to travel far to attack our coast. It’s that look the other way on gun control and immigration while Joe Biden’s premise happens that worries me.

          • Nukeman60

            Good point.

            • Orangeone

              I hate when my brain works some days, I hate not trusting the gov’t officials, I hate not trusting the media
              I LIKE trusting Scoop and the Scooper community!

              • Nukeman60

                ‘I LIKE trusting Scoop and the Scooper community!’ – OrangeOne

                Another good point!

                Btw, as a side note, Sense_n_Sensibility accused me of being White and you. So be advised when I compliment you, I am merely patting myself on the back. 🙂

                • Orangeone

                  Okay so how did you do the Italics????This inquiring portion of your mind would like to know 🙂

                  Well, I am truly honored to be part of the WON team and to be in the middle is that much better!

                • Nukeman60

                  Okay, so I’ll do it the hard way and then the easy way.

                  The hard way: type before what you want italicized and then type after the phrase. If you want it bold, replace the i with b.

                  Now the easy way:


                  Edit: Be careful. I taught this to Joe and look what became of HIM, lol

                • Orangeone

                  Oh Nuke, whatever would I do without the RIGHT side of my brain! Thanks for being there 🙂 I promise, not too much bold from the monkey in the middle

                • Nukeman60

                  Much like the three main characters on Star Trek, Plato taught us that there are three parts to the soul – the appetitive (base desires – Bones), the rational (mind or intellect – Spock), and the Spirited (Kirk) who is the source of the desires that love honor and victory (ensuring the dictates of reason are followed).

                  In a society those three are the worker class (simple laborers), the Guardian class (the Philosopher Kings), and the auxiliary class (soldiers and enforcers), in the same order as above.

                  Sooo, I don’t know which of each we are, but the monkey in the middle is nevertheless kept in check, lol.

                  End of Philosophy class or episode of Star Trek, whichever you so choose.

                  Beam me up now.

                • Orangeone

                  So we’re out of thread below so I jumped back up. I love the Star Trek theme, particularly since trolls, like Sense_n_Sensibility, have no brains 🙂 ABinC would like to know the role of the Clingons…..

                • Nukeman60

                  Klingons (except Worf – he pulled himself up by listening to Levin) are the low-information voters. The Romulans are the liberals, no doubt.

                • Orangeone

                  Absolutely loving it Nuke!

                • Orangeone

                  Nuke’s replly

                  Klingons (except Worf – he pulled himself up by listening to Levin) are the low-information voters. The Romulans are the liberals, no doubt.

  • When Obamacare starts killing off people’s parents and grandparents by force of law, as it is being written and Sarah Palin foreshadowed, this country will begin to look like Egypt does right now.

    • Orangeone

      IMO he has done that with his Rules of Engagement.

  • sjmom

    You can’t put the devil in charge and expect peace and prosperity.

    • crosshr

      Amen loud to that !

  • The key to this always will be the Army. If the Army supports the salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood, then it’s game over. A lot of people may die in the civil war, but if the Army is on the side of the radical Islamists, then they win. Question is, could this situation degenerate into another Syria? Maybe, but only if you see large numbers of Army units rebelling as well. Either way, it’s going to be bloody.

    • virginiagentleman1

      You make a great point LS46, but there is one problem that I can see. Morsi is doing exactly what Obama is doing with our own Armed Forces, replacing the generals and admirals with his own sychopants.
      I agree my friend, there will be lots of blood shed. The Arab Spring has turned into the Arab Tragedy.

      • Nukeman60

        I’m afraid the “Arab Spring” will turn into “Nuclear Winter”.

        • virginiagentleman1

          Doesn’t seem as if they are too far from it, my dear friend. First crazy arab state to get the ‘bomb’ brings the whole damn planet right to the edge of the abyss.

          • Nukeman60

            Absolutely. Iran is held in check by Israel alone. That explosion in the nuke facility recently is just the start. But if they ever get nukes, you can bet they will pass them around.

    • mike3e4r7

      I don’t see this turning into another Syria, only because there’s nobody to arm these ‘rebels’. Obama has picked Morsi as his guy, so the resistance won’t be getting arms from us. It’s unlikely anyone else would be sending them arms except maybe the Israelis.

  • sDee

    Chinese missile technicians spotted in Egypt working with North Koreans to upgrade Scuds

    China is covertly working with North Koreans to modernize Egypt’s short-range missile systems, raising new concerns among United States intelligence officials about the arms programs of the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated government in Egypt.

    That darn Barry…. crazy like a fox. Just wait ’til his bros’ get their hands on all the arament and F-16’s he’s been sending ’em.

    • Orangeone

      And Kerry is on the way to help them!

      • NYGino

        He served in Vietnam, got 11 purple hearts, he’ll fix things.

        • Orangeone

          “He served in Vietnam, got 11 purple hearts, he’ll fix things.”

          Alternative: He served in Vietnam, procured 11 purple hearts, he’ll fix things.

      • stage9

        How will he deal with the “razing of villages and the raping of women” that is prevalent in the muslim world? or does that despicable language only apply to nations he hates like the US?

        • Orangeone

          I forgot my /sarc, sorry Stage, edited to now include

          • stage9

            I was referring to his comments during the Vietnam War era where he claimed that our soldiers were “razing villages and raping women”.

            • Orangeone

              Sorry, my bad…

            • Orangeone

              Sorry, my bad…

      • Conservator1

        Let’s not forget why Obama went with Chuck Hagel. With Kerry as SOS and Hagel running the Defense Department, President Mohammed Morsi and his jihadist minions will rule nations from the shores of Eastern Africa to the shores of Eastern Asia and everything in between.

        That’s Obama’s foreign policy and he will gladly join forces with radical Muslims and wipe Israeli off the map. I long for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.

    • stage9

      “… raising new concerns”

      Annnnnd that’s about it –“concern”.

      Have someone at the State Department issue a statement will you, and have them use the word “unfortunate” in their response.

      Iran has threatened to murder the Jews and in response officials in the Obama Administration say that this sort of language is unfortunate.


      • Orangeone

        “unfortunate” and “unexpected”

        • stage9

          lol! oh, right, “unexpected”! I forgot that one.

          Though the rest of the world warned the Obama Administration that backing the muslim brotherhood in Egypt would bring with it persecution of Coptic Christians, the administration still proceeded to back Morsi anyway, believing his election to be the will of the people. When asked about the rise in recent violence, (“rise in recent violence” is another one), the president said that it was “unexpected”.

    • mike3e4r7

      One line in the article you cited, struck me ” … raising new concerns among United States intelligence officials about the arms programs of …”. We really in some ways are witnessing a coup in our own country.

      Undoubtedly the vast majority of men and women in our military and intelligence services are patriotic people doing their job of looking after America’s security. They have concerns about China and North Korea working to modernize Egypt’s short-range missle systems. Unfortunately, their boss, the dictator Obama, does not share these concerns and is actively working to undercut them and our security.

  • I should be laughing except my brother is over there. Crap.

  • I hate to say it but the best thing for Western Civilization just might be the collapse of Egypt.

  • virginiagentleman1

    That “ARAB SPRING” stuff is turning into the Arabs nightmare.
    Egypt is getting a dose of what we got here in America with Obama, a march towards dictatorship. How does it feel now, Egypt? Are you ready to take off the rose-colored glasses yet, and see the world in cold black and white?
    You’ve been had by Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood!

    • poljunkie

      Virginiagent- I’ve missed you.

      I looked you up today and read some of your recent postings. I hope you continue to improve health wise. I think of you often, and check in from time to time at the hangout with banished, ostracized…and frankly just some rebels!! 🙂
      Listen to the boss! Remember, a happy wife, is a happy life. At least that’s what my hubby says. Well, we do our best together.

      By the way- I love this “” Taco bueno all the do dah day!” from your grandson!!

      Take good care friend.

      • virginiagentleman1

        It is nice to hear from you Milady! How are you doing? Since you’ve read some of my recent posts, you already know how I’m doing.

        What ‘hangout’ are you refering to? I’ll hang out there with ya! VG

        • poljunkie

          The newest hangout. nod…wink.

          We’re doing ok. Hubby wants to go to the gun show later today!

          Freezing here. We usually dont have much of a winter (Northern AZ) but we’ve had a month of cold weather and even some snow!
          Im a warm weather gal!

          My mom is turning 90 on saturday so we’re having a party for her! woo hoo.
          Its very hard for her, as my dad- (the were married for 69 years) passed away last year.

          Im so glad you’re doing fine (if only for today)…once the defib is put in- it should be much better. My brother had one put in last year…and he’s back to 100% normal He just got back from a trip to the Ukraine.

          Tell your grandson Nacho to see you!

          • virginiagentleman1

            Gotcha, nod, wink!
            I’ve been to Arizona a number of times over the years. Northern Arizona is my favorite part of the state, especially the mountains around the Flagstaff area. Rustic lodges, woodsmoke on the air, friendly people, and some really great places to eat, all left a pleasent impression on me.

            A Happy Birthday to your Mom, and may she have many more!
            As for the gun show, I wish I could go with the two of you! I love going to gun shows. Not only can one find the newest technology in weapons, but often there are working pieces that should be in a museum.

            Stay warm milady and enjoy yourselves! VG

  • Sober_Thinking

    Well, we should give Syria… um, I mean Egypt, more military aid then. They’ll need the F-16s and 200 tanks to crush the opposition.

    Some clowns argue that this military arms deal was made in good faith with the former regime and we should honor it. Pah!!! The new boss is an animal. A brutal dictator who is supported by a corrupt, ravenous Muslim Brotherhood who hates Israel and America… and America should hand them some of our advanced weapons? Tipping the military balance in the region? Arming our enemies? Lol… the idiocy of this is ridiculously clear. So… Obama wants to help his brothers in the desert… on our tab. Through our taxes. And our media lets it slide… again.

    And the plague that is Sharia is sickening… while the whole country is a Muslim quagmire… I still hope they topple Morsi and stop this insanity. Then, I hope a more conservative government is set up and that peace and stability are restored. Not likely… but…

    Oh and the American weapons? Stop the shipment(s) RIGHT FREAKIN NOW! How hard is this?

    • mike3e4r7

      Yeah, I like this whole “Rules ard rules, we have to honor our commitments” BS the leftists use to justify giving F16’s and tanks to Egypt. When it comes to the senate passing a budget, forget the rules. As far as Obama, there are too many examples of his flauting the rules for me to name, besides it only sickens me to think about them.

      • Sober_Thinking

        Agreed… spot on.

        Obama only obeys the laws and rules when it benefits HIM.

  • Well…we all knew this was coming. It looks like Egypt is heading down the Syria path. It’s gonna get ugly folks.

  • 57thunderbird

    Obama made that.

  • chatterbox365

    Obama foreign policy at work!

    Let them all kill each other…they been doing it for thousands of years.

  • PatrickHenrysBody

    More Muslim fratricide. I care not about a group of people who have proven themselves to be murderous thugs or who are complicit with murderous thugs. They deserve all of the death, revolutions, and violence they cause.

  • Guppymonster

    Better that it collapse and real democracy emerge than that it go on with the muslum botherhood. They should go on trial by the people of Egypt….