By The Right Scoop


A Memphis elementary school teacher not only made 10-year-old Erin Shead redo her assignment, telling her she can’t write about God as her idol, but also wouldn’t allow Erin’s first assignment about God to even remain at school, telling her it must go home. Erin ended up choosing Michael Jackson in her second attempt and that was acceptable to her teacher, but not to Erin’s mom who took this straight to the principle’s office at Lucy Elementary. In short, she won, but the school isn’t saying anything about how they are rectifying this issue.

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  • garydonh

    The teacher should be fired for trying to control this little girls rights and freedoms based upon her own beliefs.

  • 1vote

    I thought Obama was supposed to be the idol of every 10-year old.

  • Bill in Tennessee

    It always happens, when totalitarian statists get into power, they ALWAYS overplay their hand and reveal exactly  who they are and what they stand for.  This “teacher” would have been too cowardly to attempt this back in the 1950s, had she been around, maybe even in the 60s…. but with Lord Obama and the progs running everything, that empowers her (so she thinks) to let her own ideology run amok.  I hope  all you people out there are keeping local lists of these people, they will need to be dealt with at the local level if (A) a TSHTF scenario ever plays out, or (B) once we defeat the Liberal statist powers that be.  I suggest once we are able to, we impose  our  own ideology and at the very least fire these people from any jobs that carry responsibility or governance.  Other locales may choose other, more draconian measures, I will leave that up to them.  Know who your enemies are, just sayin’….  A great day of accounting is coming.

  • Rshill7

    Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama.
    Let’s see, as far as idols go, Michael Jackson versus Almighty God. Oh boy, that’s a toughy fo’ sho’ !
    The Michael Jackson idol is idle. Almighty God is active and in complete control of everything there is as well as everything there ain’t.
    Basically what this teacher did was to force this young lady into violating one of the Ten Commandments. The one that said “You shall have no other Gods before me”.
    God is not an idol however, but the teacher doesn’t realize that. God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. Jackson was just impotent.
    Carry on comrades. You’re in for an historic succession of ass-whoopins’. The lightening will strike, the thunder will roll, and chains will be broken. We are the children of God. That’s a solid majority regardless of opposition numbers.

  • PoCoTex

    The teacher should be forced to write on her blackboard – if they still use a blackboard – 100 times in front of all of her students, “I am not God. I am not God.”

  • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

    Ubama…no comment.  I wonder if this would have drawn a comment from GW?  Or even happened prior to this regime?  I do know that Reagan would have addressed it in a very broad and eloquent speech that drilled down to the core of every [at least my] heart.

  • SigEliteDark

    The teacher needs to repent and turn to God.  Thank you, young Erin Shead for your devotion to Him.

  • Bill in Tennessee

    PoCoTex  You assume the “teacher” can write.  Ha!   How adorable…

  • Fred Flint

    The teacher needs to be be forced to recite the 1st amendment 100 times to the school body

  • MeanGreen

    I just looked up the phone number in case God decides he wants to call Lucy Elementary and find out why he got bumped into 2nd place behind Mikey Jackson. (901) 873-8175

  • PoCoTex

    So, for the teacher, it’s okay to idolize a drug-addled entertainer with suspect relationships with children, but it’s not okay to idolize Someone who provides every child with life and the best rules for life (e.g., “Honour your father and your mother.)

  • jwbandit27

    Way to go MOM!!!!!            It starts right here for our children and for the parents.     Get involved in the school, PTA  what ever.  .  Overwhelm them with presence .  Stand for your Convictions.  Stand up,  be bold.        |  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

  • Rshill7

    Lefties, please paint us a picture before we paint your wagon
    It doesn’t matter what a consistent liar says does it? You’re right up there with Obastard on that score. Truth is ‘relative’ to you too. A distant 17th cousin you’ve never met.
    Stick with what you know, nothing.
    I’ve painted what I would love America to look like many times. I’ve also reminisced about how it has been during both my lifetime and those who came before. You guys have never painted anything about the America you’d like to see. What would it look and be like? What’s your end game? Describe Utopia.
    If you can not, why not? Is it because you have no clue? Is it because it’s as ugly as ugly gets? What is it? Advertise your product and see if anyone wants to buy it. Are you incapable of that? It certainly appears so.
    America, Riff and Raff would like for you to buy their product, they’re just not willing to let you see it. That would be a deal breaker. They haven’t even seen it themselves. Have no idea what it looks like.
    Oh, they’re more than willing to travel the road, they just have no idea where the destination lies, lies, lies.

  • PoCoTex

    Rshill7  Excellent. Actually, it’s not hard to know the end-game of the collectivists’ utopia. It’s with them in charge, forcibly taking from everyone around them to support them.

  • Rshill7

    PoCoTex Rshill7  Oh, you and I know what it looks like. I just want to hear them describe it, you know, to see if they do. I don’t think they do. There’s nothing in it for humans.

  • Rshill7

    PoCoTex  Were their product truly shown, truly unveiled, nobody would buy it or sell it. I want them to put it on display, so it can be rejected, wholesale.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ WolfieUSA

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
    prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
    speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    assemble, and to petition the Government for a of grievances.” – 1st Amendment to the Constitution.
    Which part of “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” don’t Liberals understand??? 

    The child choosing God as her hero is an expression of Faith, NOT Religion anyway.  
    In short, this teacher is too dumb to be allowed to teach.

  • Martin2717

    This is awful.

  • Rshill7

    PoCoTex  And what colors would they need to paint that picture? Would black, grey, and brown splashed with red suffice? Yes, I think it would.

  • eLucidive

    But I’d wager that if it was allah, that would have been allowed no questions asked.

  • Conservator1

    eLucidive As you posted your comment I was about to post something very similar:
    If Erin’s idol was assignment? Somehow I doubt it, after all that would be anti-Islam and the PC police would never allow it to occur.
    Thus, I totally agree with you.

  • deTocqueville1

    What the hell has happened to the First Amenment? The educational system is gone unless great moms like this articulate lady and dads fight back. This rising up must continue on all fronts. God Bless this woman!

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    Wonder if the mother called ACLJ for advice.
    http://aclj.org/jay-sekulow

  • The Sentinel

    Good for that mom.
    As a parent, I would likely be taken to jail because this heats me up beyond words. I would go down there and really lay into them. But then again, I’m blessed to be able to send my daughter to a private Christian school.
    This is wrong and evil and should not be tolerated in this country.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    eLucidiveyour right on point.

    http://www.lady-patriots.com/tennessee-public-schools-bow-down-to-islam/#        
    &      
     http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/public-school-promotes-5-pillars-of-islam.html

  • stage9

    Meanwhile…
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/2-indicted-after-gun-discharges-at-Memphis-school-4798591.php
    God was removed and eventually guns and violence replaced Him. 
    Why have children honoring the Creator, who instills good character and virtue, when we can have secularism’s school violence and mass murder? What an INGENIOUS “equal rights” public education system liberal marxists have devised! 
    And way to go state and local governments, you’re officially the most stupid and insipid conglomeration of human beings ever assembled in the history of the world!
    Public education is a HATE CRIME!

  • njmom

    Can’t write about God but you can about Michael Jackson???? Perverted and twisted I’d say. Sounds like Romans 1.

  • wakeup1130

    This just enrages me as a parent, who has any right to say what a child believes in or anyone else for that matter. Why is it others beliefs have become such a aggressive topic, no matter your Religions or Beliefs or non beliefs, we make our choices and shouldn’t live life tiptoeing and walking around on eggshells cause of our beliefs… Respecting everyones right to their own beliefs and just respecting them, we have no right to judge anyone. This Teacher is flat out wrong… Great job mom for standing ground… not quite sure what the Ellen DeGeneres comment was about but maybe the teacher is both Gay as well as scared she may learn a thing or two from this amazing 10 year old child. 
     I pray we see more God all over this world – GOD BLESS

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    jwbandit27  Clearly the mom was informed and a Christian and not afraid to stand up and be counted. In fact I doubt this isn’t over for the teacher or the school district.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak Why don’t you actually watch the piece?  It seemed pretty clear to me that the assignment was for the girl to do a paper on one of her idols.  Remember: being an idiot is an easy choice.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    @ighteousCrow_JustCaws   great points, but you and I both know these attacks on Christians have been a serious problem in these NEA Union public ( Communist indoctrination schools ) for a very long time and a long time before Mr bHussein0brotherhoodz came on the scene.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    njmom Exactly what I thought.  What kind of an ‘educator’ sits in judgment over who a child’s idols are anyway?

  • steveangll77

    Mizmak If you are a Christian then you believe Jesus actually walked on earth.
    Since you do not it is unlikely you really are a christian.
    Christians do not believe in idols except Jesus.  Even then he is not to be thought of as an idol.  But we do worship Jesus.
    Jest sayin.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    WolfieUSA Very astute point, but, clearly, this teacher isn’t interested in ‘teaching’ in the first place.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak Thank you for proving my point.

  • badbadlibs

    Mizmak 
    God not only “actually walked on earth”, He created it. Get your facts straight before you form an opinion. Just sayin’

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak Good to know!  As always, thanks for reading!

  • badbadlibs

    Mizmak 
    Then you don’t understand Christianity, period. God Himself became a man, that man’s Name is Jesus.
    You must also have missed the part in Genesis where “God” walked with Adam in the cool of the day.
    No matter how you want to defend this blatant attack on this child’s first amendment rights, you loose.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    badbadlibs Mizmak Yeah, I don’t think that Mizmak’s problems are related to only not understanding Christianity, but we’re all entitled to our opinions, however right or wrong they might be.  Clearly, the teacher is pushing an agenda, and the teacher’s not alone.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    badbadlibs Mizmak Amen!  The Bible also has passages wherein God walks with so-and-so while speaking, so the presumption would have to be that, yeppers, God walked the Earth.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    wakeup1130 Bless you for being a parent!  I only have 8 cats, and they’re a handful.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    stage9 LOVE that “public education is a hate crime.”  I’m gonna start using that.

  • JeremyShooterRutledge

    badbadlibs Not everyone who is a christian believes that Jesus is god. You do know some feel they are seperate beings

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    The Sentinel  You call me, and I’d be right there with you, backing you up, as would an awful lot of other Scoopers.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs And not everyone believes the Earth is round.  Badbadlibs doesn’t speak for everyone — Badbadlibs speaks from his/her own convictions, as do each of us.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak No, methinks your points are very clear.  It’s just that thinking people can disagree; unfortunately, you see things differently.

  • JeremyShooterRutledge

    E Lee Zimmerman JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs  I was just throwing that out there because he/she was saying it to mizmark who may or may believe the same way. There are plenty who dont believe at all. my statement was only made because alot of folks feel all christians  believe Jesus and god are the same.

  • CarolynDixon87

    Mizmak God and Jesus are one in the same.  If you read the Bible you would know this for a fact.  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word became flesh.”

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak OK, “thinkingi person,” show me where I called you an idiot.  I understand how some people are more comfortable throwing stones than they are catching them, but two can be guilty of “you’re reading things into my statements,” can’t they … or is it doors don’t swing that way in your part of Fantasyland?

  • badbadlibs

    JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs
    I know. And I also know they are wrong.
    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    14 And the Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us….
    There’s tons more.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    JeremyShooterRutledge E Lee Zimmerman badbadlibs I understand your tactic; it’s its usage that I’m taking offense with.  It’s that kind of tactic that forces people who are on the ‘right’ side of things to concede the debate … and, for the record, we have to stop giving up our side and our beliefs in order to keep from offending others because — here’s today’s lesson, kids — people ARE going to be offended.  It’s a part of life.  Get used to it.  Grow up.  Deal with it.  Once you do, THEN we can have genuinely intelligent discourse; until then, we’re just whistling Dixie … and we’re doing THAT off-tune, as it is.

    Let each individual believe what he/she believes, and get on with your life.  It’ll be a better, truer, and fuller life because of it.

  • badbadlibs

    CarolynDixon87 Mizmak 
    In the mouth of two or more witnesses let every word be established!

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Mizmak Always blaming someone else, eh?  Why is that?

  • badbadlibs

    Mizmak 
    If I (a woman, btw) am incorrect in my “projection”, then you aren’t speaking clearly enough. Re state your opinion in a manner we can understand.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    Mizmak  You give the teacher and school district to much slack, the NEA Union and the Federal government  work hand in hand to work against the parents control of their children education. And do not mind treating christian children as if they were the plague. Then they protect the teacher who seriously broke the law.  You being a Christian should be aware of that fact. This child’s case is not a isolated incident. This happens in schools every day all across America.
    respectfully

  • Lee0521

    So G0d is out, but a drug using pedophile is in?
    Right…..

  • wakeup1130

    JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs  Good point…This is actually true, however The Bible states it in many of the Books that God is in fact Jesus, it is a matter of how well you really read the Bible, but NO one but GOD has the right to judge how others see him. Mizmak has a right to his beliefs without being degraded and being called an idiot.

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    TIMERUNNERSC Mizmak BOOM!  There it is!  Some folks seem obsessed with continuing the “War on Reality.”  Scoopers aren’t.  That’s what make our boards different (most days).

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    Lee0521 Maybe in Memphis.  Memphis is dead to me.

  • badbadlibs

    wakeup1130 JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs 
    I didn’t call her or him an idiot, so perhaps you need to address that to the poster who did? And who was that, btw?

  • E Lee Zimmerman

    wakeup1130 JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs And yet another person who doesn’t read or watch the piece shows up to defend a falsehood stated by MissMatch … erm, Mizmak.  You might wanna take your own advice and wake up.

  • badbadlibs

    E Lee Zimmerman 
    8 ! Bless you! I have one, she has cerebral palsy and she’s like having 18 cats!

  • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

    Mizmak You can paint whatever hypotheticals you want but clearly the teacher was wrong as evidenced by the Principle agreeing with the mother of the child.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    Mizmak What is the point of arguing about it? So she Admires God and was told that was unacceptable. She then changes to admiring someone else. The girl is 10. 
    Once upon a time we could write about those who we looked up to as heroes, or those we admired, and it was all about learning how to write, to develop our skills for writing. 

    This girl and too many others are being singled out when they choose to do their assignments about God or Jesus.

  • badbadlibs

    AmericanborninCanada Mizmak 
    Thank you, American! You made the perfect point about this entire subject! I hope Mizmak takes your post to heart.

  • Las1

    Mizmak  
    Hi Mizmak… I for one didn’t think your post was unreasonable… being a regular here I can’t vouch for others’ responses to you, but I think you bring up a good point.  It is often that we get only one side of the story… as it is presented we have to take at face value the mother’s experience with the school.   The problem is the school refused to comment apparently claiming privacy for the child.  Well… the mom made sure there was no privacy for her daughter… so the school should now be free to comment.  Anyway… I think you post was quite reasonable.  IMHO.

  • stage9

    E Lee Zimmerman stage9 MAKE T-SHIRTS!

  • badbadlibs

    TIMERUNNERSC eLucidive 
    Oh my word! And in a conservative state to boot! This is beyond terrible. God help our children, in spite of the adults in charge.

  • Las1

    AmericanborninCanada Mizmak  
    Duckie my friend… I’m gonna disagree just a bit here.  I think Mizmak is being unfairly targeted for expressing skepticism of the report… simply because information is lacking.  I’m probably gonna err on the side of… “yup.. typical schoolboards doing what schoolboards typically do”… but there could have been misunderstandings all around… but as for now… we only have one side of the story.

  • shadetree56

    so she picked MJ?

  • badbadlibs

    Las1 AmericanborninCanada Mizmak 
    That’s a fair point, too. However, in Mizmak making his/her point she uses a Biblical untruth. A point based on a falsehood is impossible to understand, imo.

  • badbadlibs

    shadetree56 
    Can you get anymore PC then that wretched man? Naturally the teacher had no problem with that choice.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    stage9 E Lee Zimmerman You gave me  the title for a new video in the works Stage9! Thanks!

  • Las1

    badbadlibs Las1 AmericanborninCanada Mizmak  
    Thanks badbad… I just kinda felt Mizmak (she’s a shee) was kinda piled on here… and I also kinda lost track of the thread after a while… and you know when that happens people jump into the middle of a conversation without knowing what went previously… I’ve been guilty myself… then fur flies… and the rest is history.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    Mizmak  I agree the abuse of power is more prevalent in democrat districts of America, but still nationwide the NEA, Feds and media do work together to suppress and reject good old American values especially God given christian values, and its not about equality its about power, control and indoctrination of the children.

  • steveangll77

    Mizmak This is well reasoned I even liked it.
    However I still wonder about your brand of Christian.  I know of no Christians that do not believe that Jesus was at least part of the Godhead as in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.  None that do not believe God walked on the earth at least with Adam and Moses.  Some believe Jesus and the Father are distinct beings.  None truly understand the Trinity at least that I know of.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    badbadlibs TIMERUNNERSC eLucidive  This is when and where the parents and the politicians have to get to work and stop it.  that simple.  The families can buy mini cameras and record what is going on in the classroom and in their schools. Then go public.
    They have cameras we have cameras, we must use them.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    badbadlibsTIMERUNNERSCeLucidiveAs I told my husband, when we were talking about Islam in America,
    they’re purposely settling in the “Heartland” and “Bible belt” states.
    Once they can get their full agenda there they win.
    Can’t let that happen.

  • Las1

    Actually… now that I review the thread… I don’t know if MIzmak is a she.  Oh well…  It’s all so confusing.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    Las1 AmericanborninCanada Mizmak I was only injecting myself to try and keep the peace a little.

  • Las1

    AmericanborninCanada badbadlibs TIMERUNNERSC eLucidive  
    They certainly are tireless…  but then again… so is the devil.

  • DZortea

    Mizmak The Christ walked the earth!

  • Las1

    AmericanborninCanada Las1 Mizmak  
    Oh… so yur a “peacenik” now are you?   : )
    Unrelated, but sort of related… do you ever notice how our side tends to shoot at friendlies.  There is a big row at FrontPage between Horowitz and Diana West and Andrew Bostom.  It’s absolutely terrible… very depressing.  I disagree with West’s conclusions in her new book, but it was just terrible the kerfuffle that’s going on… and sometimes our guys with entrenched views (either valid or invalid opinions) can get quite nasty…   The left never does that because they follow Satan’s rules about a house divided.

  • DZortea

    Mizmak Really? You are no christian! Christ is God!

  • melsbabysis

    Mizmak Your a Christian but you make the comment “I can see a scenario where the assignment could’ve needed to apply to someone material, or who actually walked on the earth.” Um….God/Jesus/Holy Spirit. Jesus DID walk the earth and certainly was material.

  • imatellau

    Was this teacher doing this out of fear or malice… i know teachers that do not know how religion can be accepted in the classroom or is she a Christian HATER? if its up to the student they CAN write want they want!

  • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

    TIMERUNNERSC  
    Yes, a very long time…but emboldened by current regime.

  • Las1

    Mizmak   We often disagree on many things here… and it can get heated, but it’s important to respect each other and try at least to see what the other person is saying.  
    You are welcome here anytime.
    Oh and p.s.  I’m a Mr.

  • Rshill7

    Mizmak 
    This might be news to you, but God did walk on the Earth. His name was Jesus. What sort of “Christian” doesn’t know that? 
    Answer: No sort.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    RighteousCrow_JustCaws TIMERUNNERSC  I’m not sure it , its always be very brutal to the students and then for the parents who defend their children and their right to display their faith. Thanks goodness for people like Jay Sekulo and others who stand and take on and then defeat this unlawful Christian intimidation.

  • badbadlibs

    AmericanborninCanada badbadlibs TIMERUNNERSC eLucidive 
    Scary. *sigh*

  • Scolded for the Truth

    Wow! The American Public School system is 180 degrees out from what it was intended to be before the US Government got ahold of education. The government hates the God of Scripture so much that it defies the first four Commandments. How many of you would bet against the following scenario:  had this young girl wanted to write about Mohammmed and his “merciful: Allah, the teacher would have bent over backwards to praise her for having such a great idol to worship? 
    Nonetheless, there is one aspect of this situation that could have been a “teaching moment:” God is not an idol and, therefore, it is not appropriate to write about Him in this particular assignment. The teacher could have taught the girl something meaningful. For some reason, I do not think that the teacher in question is sharp enough to make this distinction.

  • Tamikosmom

    badbadlibs Mizmak

    John 1:1 – “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
    Matthew 1:23 – “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

  • stage9

    AmericanborninCanada stage9 E Lee Zimmerman Well lookie there! I’m just all kinds of useful today! lol!

  • applepie101

    Hard as it may be, parents have to stop consigning their children to the public school system. The teachers themselves are a product of a leftist-influenced education, and the whole school environment promotes conformity. It’s not going to change. This is like stories one used to hear of persecution of Christian students  in the Soviet Union under Brezhnev.

  • famouswolf

    10-4 on that, my friend.

  • cattnipp

    imatellau …. or a RWNJ demonstrating how those nasty Godless liberals have made even the thought of God illegal………….  more likely a RWNJ

  • applepie101

    I can’t think of any instance where God would be the wrong answer, if it is sincere. This is not a right-or-wrong question. If the word ‘idol’ was actually used, a sincere Christian or Jew would immediately reject the idea of ‘idolizing’ anyone but God. 
    What I take issue with, on top of the teacher’s act of discrimination, is the anal tendency to try to micromanage their students’ creative thought and expression. What was the point of this assignment, anyway? Learning how to write?
    Jerk teachers will come and go, Erin, but you stick to your guns. You have a fine mother and a God who loves you and will see you through.

  • dong_ha68

    Mizmak go to the 39 sec mark. On the paper look at the lower left box, she wrote God is my idol

  • The Sentinel

    E Lee Zimmerman The Sentinel  
    I appreciate that. Also, I figured as much… we all don’t seem to take to tyranny and lawlessness very well. :)

  • lawngreen

    I wasn’t exactly a model student when I was this young … or, er, older either, to be honest … but I understood one thing from the time I was nine years old: the God of the Bible is real, and He will not tolerate idols or other gods in a believer’s life. I probably would have gotten into trouble if a teacher had told me this when I was a kid.
    There are so many of these stories, and so many times the kids are polite. I guess I wouldn’t really recommend kicking teacher on the shins, but there is a time and a pace for everything, and this is at least a time to be LOUD and BOLD, not polite. But one child all by herself, that’s not a realistic expectation. I just get angry at the REAL bullying that goes on in schools today.

  • lawngreen

    Mizmak I kind of think God qualifies as a person. Three persons, in fact.

  • lawngreen

    JeremyShooterRutledge badbadlibs Those to whom the name “Christian” was first applied all believed that Jesus was God. (Upper case G.) That’s the definition. Others try to hijack it for their own purposes, or assume it out of ignorance. But Jesus set the definition permanently when He said, “He who has the Son has life. He who has not the Son has not life.”

  • Swamp Fox

    Sickening – Infuriating – Disgusting – Pathetic
    Feel free to add to the list….

  • 57thunderbird

    Anybody know the e-mail address for this school?Time for some scathing e-mails from those of us that also have God as our idol!

  • tinlizzieowner

    This is happening everywhere, all the time. The only time it gets noticed, is when it hits the press. It’s time to put God back in the schools and throw the teacher’s union out.

  • tinlizzieowner

    57thunderbird  
    Write your own children’s schools and ‘advise them’, if they don’t want to be on the wrong side of ‘the news’, they better be real careful. ;-) ;-)

  • cattnipp

    57thunderbird …… it is altogether possible the teacher did this in an effort to provide evidence that there is a   “WAR ON CHRISTIANS”   (I do not believe you are one of them but) There are people who claim that it being against the law to FORCE children to worship at school it means that ‘Christians’ are losing their freedom to express their religious views……….. it is of course also against the law to FORCE a child to worship Satan in the public school but some ‘Christians’ claim  that freedom of religion only applies to Christians and it is their right to impose their views on others.
    This ‘teacher’ needs to not be in a position of authority over children. She has taken it upon herself to deny this child the freedom of religion………….  BUT it should not be used as evidence that the government is oppressing Christians.

  • 57thunderbird

    tinlizzieowner 57thunderbird I do stay involved in what goes on at the local schools.Not for my children,but for my grandchildren.

  • 57thunderbird

    cattnipp 57thunderbird I do not know any Christians that believe freedom of religion only applies to them.If she had said Allah,all would be well.

  • 57thunderbird

    tinlizzieowner Agreed!

  • cattnipp

    lawngreen Mizmak …. there is ONLY one God …. and even your Bible demands that you worship only God

  • cattnipp

    CarolynDixon87Mizmak…… please give chapter and verse…. and which of the over 100 different versions in English alone that you are quoting. 
    John 1:1 of KJV reads “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” —— I can not find a site that quote the bible as saying what you wrote…. only speculation that it should be ‘interpreted’ in that way. —– so much for the never changing word of God
    I believe in ONE God, and I do not set others as partners to him

  • kong1967

    At first I thought maybe the assignment was intended to get the students to write about a human hero….like George Washington or Benedict Arnold (a little joke there).  But it still didn’t make sense why the teacher would tell her it couldn’t even be in the school.
    I think this reflects the liberals’ twisted view of church and state.  Maybe this misguided teacher believes that there cannot be any mention of religion in public schools.  She’s an idiot, but I’ve heard of a teacher that couldn’t tell the difference between cities and states when identifying capitols…..no joke.
    I’m glad the parent followed up and the school corrected the issue.  Don’t know if it was a malicious denial or if it was just a misguided liberal.  Stupid either way.

  • ImmigrantfromSocialism

    This is how Socialists undermine conscience,Liberty,and Free thinking.
    The “STATE” tells you how to think and you are at the mercy of the tyrants.
    Native born Americans MUST get involved in their kids and grandkids lives.
    Not surprisingly the Stasi,I mean the DOJ,or the useful idiots,Sharpton and Jackson,or the NAACP not involved….

  • kong1967

    tinlizzieowner  Liberals have a twisted view of church and state.  There’s a difference between church running the state and someone from church being part of the state.  I think this teacher probably believes that religion isn’t even supposed to be mentioned past the front doors inside the school.  Hopefully she learns a lesson here.  May not have been a malicious liberal, but rather a misguided one….which would be the norm.

  • DebbyX

    Ooooooooooooh, girlfriend……………………don’t you get in between a momma and her baby!
    Good for that mother…………..and she even inserted Ellen Degenerate into the argument……..love it!

  • tinlizzieowner

    57thunderbird tinlizzieowner 
    Same here.

  • cattnipp

    kong1967 ….. a liberal would NOT tell a child they are NOT ALLOWED to believe in God, or idolize God…… it is the ‘conservatives’ who claim that citizens have NO RIGHTS…. no right to love the person they love; no right to marry the person of their choice; no right to sing at the capitol; no right to Social Security even though it is money the government forces you to place in the government ‘safekeeping’ throughout your working life; no right to any belief except that the conservatives tell you to believe; no right to make choices about your own body; no right to a safe and secure work place; no right to know what poisons are in your food; no right to a decent wage; …………. and so on……

  • kong1967

    cattnipp  You just proved my point.

    The teacher did not tell the child she couldn’t believe in God, just that she couldn’t use it as an assignment.  Many liberals do get angry when there’s any sight of Christianity in a public building.
    We don’t tell you who you can love.  Just don’t force the agenda on society.

    We don’t mind singing at the capitol, but it should be in good taste.  Rap bands that sing vile things is a reflection on Obama and all of us.

    Very few conservatives want to kill SS.  I believe it is necessary and we pay for it.  If they kill it, stop making us pay for it our whole lives with no return.  That’s our money.
    An abortion is not “your own body”.  The mother walks out without a scratch.  The baby is mutilated.
    Safe and secure work place?  Yes, we do want it, but bad over-regulation kills jobs and businesses.
    I don’t want to kill the FDA.  I believe we need it, but it is over the top on regulation.
    Let me remind you that it is the liberals who try to silence the opposition.  Fox has both sides argued on every issue.  The rest of the MSM, extensions of the DNC, do not.  You hear only the left for the most part.  Additionally, the left is always trying to boycott businesses that advertise during conservative shows.  The left also tried to gain control over the internet in order to silence so-called hate speech, which is exactly what they were calling conservative views at the same time.  The left also uses schools to indoctrinate our kids and condition them to believe in liberalism.  Since when do kindergartners need to be taught sex education and to accept the gay agenda?  They don’t even understand it.  It’s so the left can condition them to a preset set of values determined by the left.  That’s communism, yet you’ll never admit it.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    tinlizzieowner “It’s time to put God back in the schools and throw the teacher’s union out.”  YAY!!!

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    Swamp Fox I could, but I’d have to ban myself.

  • http://cfp4us.org/ AmericanborninCanada

    stage9 AmericanborninCanada E Lee Zimmerman ah quit it, you’re useful every day!

  • cattnipp

    @ 57thunderbird ………. so if she were to use the Arabic word for ‘God’,  would it not refer to God?  If one uses the Arabic word for chair does it become not a place to sit?  or the Arabic word for grape would become not a grape?  Is the Bible written in the Arabic language not the Bible, and does it not use the word Allah to indicate God?
    The Qur’an tells the same stories as the bible….. it tells of the creation of the heavens and the earth; there is an entire chapter dedicated to the story of the virgin birth, in fact Mary is considered the most blessed woman in all of history, and Jesus a beloved prophet… (just as the bible did BEFORE the Romans changed it to claim that God was the SIRE of Jesus— the Qur’an says God spoke the pregnancy into being)……. The Qur’an tells the story of Lots family and how the Lord God sent angels to tell them to leave the city….. it tells the story of Jacob, sold into slavery by his jealous brothers, and his rise to power; the story of Moses and the golden calf…….. if you were to READ the Qur’an instead of regurgitating the lies you have been told to believe you would find it a beautiful book——- spoiler alert…. what is promised to those who kill as an aggression, or kill innocents in a war effort is the fires of hell……. and when someone gives you a ‘verse’ to read claiming it is proof of the promise of many virgins, understand it is but a phrase and you should at least read the rest of the sentence but preferably the chapter. 
    I was so afraid by what I had been told that I purchased an English translation of the Qur’an…… I wanted to be prepared for this evil I was told we faced……. I am NO LONGER AFRAID of anyone who practices Islam,  however I will agree that ALL extremists are very dangerous….. no matter what word they use to indicate God
    Christians claim that their rights are taken away when tax dollars can not be used to promote and celebrate Christianity over all other beliefs ……. they claim that the rules that have been in place since the military began, that a commander may not order his troops to worship as he dictates is a “war on Christians” (that Obama started)… they claim that people saying ‘Happy Holidays’  instead of ‘Merry Christmas’ are trampling THEIR rights…… and not FORCING the children in public schools to pray a Christian prayer takes away their freedom of religion….. prayer IS allowed in school, just not FORCED prayer…. and those same people who insist that their rights are trampled if they can not force Hindu children to make a Christian prayer have a fit if something resembling a yoga pose is used as a stretching move in a physical education class…. calling it a religious teaching no matter what it is named.

  • PapaLouie

    Is the ACLU going to sue this teacher for violating the 1st amendment? They sue schools whenever there is even a hint of violating the “establishment” clause. Don’t they have the same respect for the “free exercise” clause? This teacher certainly prohibited this student from freely exercising her religion. That is a clear violation of the Constitution. She can’t claim her actions are required under the establishment clause because that only applies to government and its employees.  So it would apply to teachers but not students.

  • tinlizzieowner

    @cattnipp 
    Go play with your ball of yarn and pray that Obama has cleaned out your ‘kitty pan’, OK? ;-) ;-)

  • tinlizzieowner

    AmericanborninCanada tinlizzieowner 
    Or home school your kid, like you do. ;-) ;-)

  • cattnipp

    Fox News……… that explains it…… 
    http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=23679

  • Objective Analysis

    The FAGGOTS are running everything.  Sodom & Gomorrah in the public school system.  Told you this was an ABOMINATON. 
    If the girl would say, GOVT WAS HER IDOL.  It would get an A with these commies, marxists, etc…

  • mrterry50

    Despite the fact that students have every right to freely practice their religion the leftist teachers are working to oust God from society.  The only thing that can stop this is lawsuits and the regular guy doesn’t have that kind of money.  
    I like the movie, Oh, Brother Where art thou?  In it the corrupt local politician was opposed by reformers sweeping them out of office.  “We need to get us some of that reform.”

  • wodiej

    Objective Analysis that’s a disgusting comment.

  • wodiej

    DebbyX too bad you can’t state your opinion without insulting someone else.

  • wodiej

    A rock star can be an idol but GOD can’t?

  • fireme

    They spent months idolizing the child molester Michael Jackson. I am asking the Koch brothers and others to set up more scholarships to get these kids into good private schools where they will have the ability to think and flourish. Does Bill Gates believe in school choice or is he still taking his marching orders from the Regime? The Marxist and gay mafia have infiltrated our government schools. Please protest!

  • fireme

    I am asking the black community to stop worshiping false prophets like Obama and listen to this child.

  • Objective Analysis

    wodiej Objective Analysis So what.  What the homosexual agenda is doing to our students in these public schools is a DISGUSTING ACTION.  Why do you think the black mother said now if her daughter picked Ellen Degeneres as her idol, would it be okay to the Principal? and the principal did not say a word, it is because the teacher is a HOMOSEXUAL and is trying to put her perverted beliefs onto a child is a christian and punishing her for her.  Get the sodomites out of the teaching unions and public schools who want to impose their beliefs and then you will not hear these comments.

  • cattnipp

    fireme ….. because in the end…. it is all about the color of the people’s skin…… well thank you for admitting it ……… I do not like your God, if this is what he promotes…… I worship the one true God, and at the end of days, you will have the opportunity to explain the hatred that you cultivate in your heart and soul

  • cattnipp

    fireme —- the Koch brothers???…. many years ago when politicians went bad and stole from the people it was said they had sold their soul to the devil…… today it is stated that they sold their soul to the Koch brothers………………….

  • cattnipp

    wodiej  …… enlighten me….. just where did DebbyX call anybody out of their name??? praising a woman for protecting her child is hardly an insult

  • cattnipp

    tinlizzieowner …. so teaching Hindu prayer, or the Sufi religion would be okay with you??  I prefer my children are TAUGHT religion by their parents and church/synagogue/mosque/temple …. mot by the state….. they should be free to worship (and they are)  but NO ONE should be taught HOW to worship by the government !!!

  • wodiej

    cattnipp wodiej Ellen Degenerate…her name is Ellen Degeneres but Debby felt the need to insult her by calling her degenerate. 
     I’m sure you know that is a derogatory term and it was used to insult gay people.  Now you are enlightened but undoubtedly have an excuse for her using the slur.

  • cattnipp

    soooo. if the district chooses to teach Hindi prayer you are fine with that….. how about Wicca??  I am not, children should be taught about morals and faith in their own home and in the church/temple/synagogue/mosque…. children NEED to be taught about morals and belief and faith by their family and community —— not TOLD what to believe by the state and FORCED to worship as the state decrees……. you have brought forth a communist ideal in case you can not recognize it as such…………………….

  • cattnipp

    57thunderbird tinlizzieowner …. having the state teach the children what faith they should have instead of leaving it up to the families and community is a much favored communist principal…… you must be proud

  • cattnipp

    Mizmak …. which version of the over 100 DIFFERENT VERSIONS in English alone……. and if a dozen people can not agree on specifics of faith here on this forum….. just how is it that so many think the STATE should choose what their children believe by teaching “GOD” in school???

  • cattnipp

    E Lee Zimmerman stage9 …… so  only those who have parents that can send them to private school should learn to read and write?  the parents can not home school, because both parents must work 12 hours each day to provide food and shelter….. because expecting a living wage is not acceptable.

  • cattnipp

    Conservator1 …… Allah is the Arabic word for God, and appears throughout the Arabic translation as well…. so they are one and the same….. would you refuse to sit in a chair if someone used the Arabic word for chair???

  • cattnipp

    TIMERUNNERSC jwbandit27 ….. because only Christians believe in God????  SMH

  • cattnipp

    RighteousCrow_JustCaws ….. because the POTUS is of course kept fully informed about each and every scuffle between the parents and teachers of the 76 MILLION school age children in the USA.  He is the POTUS, not the all-seeing God that created our world…………  and you claim (wrongly)  that the liberals worship him……. SMH

  • cattnipp

    wodiej….. Now I see what you spoke up about it came in my email but was removed from this page
    @DebbyX…….  there is a difference  between answering a childs comment with “yes, I know Susie has two Mommies, and it is wonderful that they both love her” and saying “ohhh yes and today we are going to learn how to have sex like they do”  you need to check and see if you are teaching the children in your life to love or to hate….. hate damages the very soul

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    cattnipp TIMERUNNERSC jwbandit27  No cattnipp, because most everyone on earth believes in some higher power, a god, but Christians believe in the only living God whos name is Jehovah and whos Son is named Jesus Christ the Christ of salvation.  One great thing about our God was he told those who believe in him and his word not to be to hard on the people who believe in a different god, because at least they do acknowlegde that there is a living God.  Don’t be fooled there is truth given by the object of truth, he is alive he is God Almighty. Jesus said go tell the world of God who created them and how they can be saved from their sins by the lamb.
    Have a great day.

    Please help me out, Sorry I don’t know what SMH means.

  • Conservator1

    cattnipp Are you trying to educate me on the Abrahamic religions? Thanks, but I don’t need your help. BTW, there are differences among the three great religions.Muslims believe Abraham was a prophet and a messenger of God whose ancestral line is Adam to Muhammad.
    Jews believe Abraham was the first Jew and the founding patriarch of the children of Israel.
    Christians believe Abraham was an ancestor of Jesus and thus, considered Him to be Son of God.
    Your attempt to mock my knowledge of the Abrahamic religions only proves your ignorance on the subject. Nice try…

  • tinlizzieowner

    cattnipp tinlizzieowner 
    You now, I won’t argue that with you but if you take a look around, you might find out the only religion not being promoted in schools these days, is Christianity.
    If this little girl had written that Allah or Mohammad was her ‘Idol’, we wouldn’t be talking about this, right now.

  • cattnipp

    TIMERUNNERSC  how wonderful that he repeated those same promises in the Qur’an….. you are correct that there is only ONE GOD, however you are mistaken about his having ‘sired’ Jesus, God had no need of sex and simply spoke into being the virginal pregnancy……. The God of the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur’an is but one same God …. trying to tell me that your God does not like the others and can beat them up makes you appear foolish.  There is an entire chapter in the Qur’an about the virgin birth, Mary is considered the most blessed woman to have ever existed by those who practice Islam, and Jesus a beloved prophet…… there is only one God…. why do so many ‘Christians insist there are 3? the father, the son, and the holy ghost’ …. and God does not die…. so how can you claim that Jesus is God and God died (for our sins)?  We must all atone for our own behaviors in life…. we are not free to torture and murder innocents and then say that Jesus has been punished so we shall not……….. 
    —– I thought RW people were all for personal responsibility

    SMH = Shake My Head

  • cattnipp

    tinlizzieowner  Allah is the Arabic word for God, and the Qur’an is written in Arabic, pick up an Arabic copy of the Bible and Allah is also the word for God there….  Do you believe that all those people in the Bible spoke English?  they did not, Jesus spoke Aramaic for example……The God of the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur’an are one and the same …..and Mohammad, like Jesus, was a beloved prophet of the one true God, the creator of the heavens and the earth …… it is unseemly both to insist there are 3 Gods (father, son, holy ghost) when even Jesus warned against worshiping any except the one true God….. and to claim that God ‘sired’ Jesus, the creator spoke Jesus into being… the Qur’an has an entire chapter dedicated to the virgin birth and Mary is considered the most blessed woman to have ever lived by those who practice Islam.
    Christianity is the ONLY religion NOT being promoted? …… I am sorry, I can not stretch my mind around your fantasy…… how is Christianity NOT being promoted?  and admitting other views exist is not the same as promoting those religions…… is it because in school they say ‘winter holiday’ acknowledging there are other events at that time of year instead of “Christmas vacation” as in past times?

  • cattnipp

    Conservator1 ….. if Abraham was not a prophet of God, why is he recognized as such in all 3  religions of God  there were MANY prophets who taught about God and his creations, Moses, of the 10 commandments, Joseph, who was sold into slavery by his step-brothers and after rising to power taught them about the mercy of God… Jesus, who was called a beloved prophet in every translation of the bible before the Romans deleted the chapters written by those who lived and walked with Jesus and replaced them by the ‘Gospels’ Matthew Mark Luke & John  and changed the bible to claim that God had ‘sired’ Jesus (as if God had need of sex… or a son)  when in fact, as the earlier text and the Qur’an state God, the creator of the heavens and the earth commanded it to be and it was… God ‘spoke’ Jesus into existence…….  The Qur’an has an entire chapter devoted to the subject of the virgin birth, and Mary is considered the most blessed woman to have ever existed….. for her faith that God would protect her and Jesus while it was the mandate in that day that Mary be stoned to death as punishment for becoming pregnant outside of wedlock.
    I am not mocking your “KNOWLEDGE”….. but I am afraid that your calling my knowledge ‘ignorance’ shows your incredible hubris on your part….. and makes you appear as if you believe YOU have been CHOSEN by God to be the ONLY source of information instead of the books he had made for our edification.

  • TIMERUNNERSC

    cattnipp  Hey listen cattnipp , lets all calm down ,  relax , have a good hat fresh cup of coffee and with a nice piece of cake or pie. No reason for striven you just take it easy. America is founded on Christian values, there’s no dispute about the record its clear. So please enjoy the coffee and cake cause I know it taste like America, taste real good.
    Have a great day.
    God Bless America

  • cattnipp

    TIMERUNNERSC  in fact most of the founding fathers were Theists as opposed to being Christians….. look it up.  Why do you claim they established the country on a religion they did not espouse? ……… Remember they wrote that there be NOT state establishment of any certain religion?????  Theists believe there is a God, they just do not people who hold the ‘Christian’ view above all others……….  It would be more accurate to say the country was established on MORAL values, especially as, of late many things upheld as ‘Christian values’ are immoral and prejudicial giving special privilege to White males of certain churches (or income) above all other citizens or beings.

  • DebbyX

    wodiej DebbyX Insult her?  
    I was applauding her……………………..now you can’t mimic anyone (even in a good way) without somebody playing the race card!
    Jeesh, please lighten up on me.

  • wodiej

    DebbyX wodiej race card? Ellen is not black.  You called her a degenerate.  How is that applauding her? You were clearly insulting gay people.  Stop the hate.  Ellen is a good person even if you don’t agree w her choice of partner.

  • DebbyX

    wodiej cattnippOkay,  I was insulting her by calling her a degenerate.  In my book, that’s what she is.
    At this point, I don’t care if I was “insulting” to Miss Ellen, she’s a mean hearted woman who only shows her smiling face, she has a dark side, like everyone else.

  • DebbyX

    cattnipp wodiej Guess some people don’t get it.
    Now I’m a racist bigot.
    Thanks for the backup though.

  • DebbyX

    cattnipp I never taught my son to hate to anyone.  He grew up in a time when gay meant happy.  He’s now 32 years old and an English teacher in a large city.  I think that speaks volumes for who he is and how he was raised.  I’m fed up with the gay issue and once in while I voice how I feel.  I have no problem with them living their life how ever they please.  Just please stop trying to convince me that it’s “normal”.  I don’t care if the were BORN THAT WAY.
    Have a lovely evening!
    And I’m not being sarcastic.

  • DebbyX

    wodiej DebbyX OMG……………..I KNOW Ellen is not black.  This just getting ridiculous.
    Ellen is NOT a good person.  I used to watch her show in the afternoon (the hateful person that I am).  After some pageant where the girl was asked what she thought of  gay marriage…………..she answered that she believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.
    The next day on “ELLEN” she portrayed this young girl as a monkey or some primate and had herself a good old laugh as the apes in the audience laughed right along with her.
    Try disagreeing with her and you ‘ll see what “good” person she is.
    I’m done with this conversation.

  • onlyonce

    cattnipp Do not DARE compare my God with the one of Islam!!!! He is NOT the same. God declared who he was in the OT & NT and not once did he say his name was Allah. And you think you know Christianity? Jesus was not spoken into existence. “In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and was God and all things were created through him.” Jesus is the word and all things were created through JESUS. In Genesis God said he was creating Man to be like “Us”… US is the Trinity. I am sick of your know-it-all attitude when you are really showing how ignorant you are. Seems like you have too much time on your hands. And yes I am a mad Christian when it comes to anyone bashing my faith and my God, but as you know Jesus had to rebuke know-it-alls, too.

  • onlyonce

    cattnipp Conservator1 In the Gospel as Jesus rose from being baptized, God said (paraphrasing) “Look at my SON who I am proud of.”

  • Rshill7

    tinlizzieowner
    WASHINGTON, D.C., Sept. 12, 2013 – “Today, teachers in Kenosha, Wis., voted to decertify their union, the Kenosha Education Association, by a margin of nearly two to one. Only 37 percent of the teachers opted to retain the union in an election made possible by the labor reforms enacted under Gov. Scott Walker (R).
    The result goes to show that when workers have a choice on whether to join a union instead of being forced into one by law, they often choose to vote down the union.”
    This is Wisconsin’s third largest teacher union :-)

  • Rshill7

    cattnipp  Try saying that after your head is 7 feet from your shoulders, dumbass. Make sure you pay special attention to what they read, while ignoring big chunks of it yourself, and zero attention to what they do, mmkay?

  • cattnipp

    onlyonce ….
    I really hate dealing with “MAD Christians”  because they are as
    dangerous as the crazies of any religion —- regardless of how much it
    offends you….. Jesus was not a blue eyed blonde ango that spoke
    English……. and Allah is the Arabic word for ‘God’  Jesus himself
    spoke Aramaic, which more closely resembles Arabic than English ….
    God/Jehovah/Elohim/Yahwea/Ehyeh/Allah  are names of the ONE true God. 
    different languages….. but one God… it is okay, God’s love is more than enough for all of his creation

    If
    you were to read the bible in Arabic his name would be Allah, in
    Hebrew, Yahea or Ehyeh or Jehovah—–  GOD IS THE  CREATOR,  and there is only one…… peace be
    unto you

  • cattnipp

    DebbyX    first off…..  your book and judgement does not amount to a hill of beans… it is not our job to judge other people
    secondly, even a smile can be considered showing kindness and a charity to others…. God encourages charity toward others
    third…. the homosexual agenda?  My grand-daughter had a girl in her pre-school class that had two mommies, a delightful child, the funny thing was when one of the other kids said something unkind to this little girl … my sweet Olivia was incredulous, and announced there was nothing wrong with having two mommies, that is was just more love and that she had two mommies to, the teacher questioned her because her father ALWAYS dropped her off at school….. she told the teacher that she used to have only one mommy and one daddy, but that she was REAL lucky and now she had two mommies and her daddy to……ever since her “grammy catt” had come to live with them, she had lots and lots of people to love….. I can not begin to express how proud this story made me of my sweet Olivia when I was told this story….. it is nasty people who claim the right to control who others are allowed to love and get love from….. not those who love people against your decree that are the DEGENERATES in this world.

  • tinlizzieowner

    cattnipp
    The shahada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language: الشهادة‎ aš-šahādah (from the verb شهد šahida, “to witness” or “to testify”), or Kalimat ash-Shahadah (Arabic: كلمة الشهادة), is an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed which declares belief in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Islam and acceptance of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad as God’s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_in_Islam. The declaration in its shortest form reads:
    لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله (lā ʾilāha ʾillā l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh) (in Arabic)
    There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God. (in English)
    (Wikipedia)
    Just for the record, I haven’t been in a ‘Church’ in over half a century. I believe in God because it’s incredibly naïve to think that man is the smartest thing in this vast universe.

  • tinlizzieowner

    cattnipp
    “Jesus himself spoke Aramaic, which more closely resembles Arabic than English ….”
    “Aramaic is a family of languages (traditionally referred to as “dialects”) belonging to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages family, and more specifically, is a part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Semitic_languages subfamily, which also includes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_languages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_language.”
    Thus, the language of ‘the Jews’ (Semites) pre-dates Arabic (the language of Islam), by thousands of years. 
    I might also point out to you that it’s the Coptic Christians (who speak Aramaic to this day), that are being persecuted all over the Islamic Middle East, right now. ;-)

  • tinlizzieowner

    Rshill7 tinlizzieowner 
    I find it delightful that the unions, who overwhelmingly supported Obamacare, are having a fit now that they have figured out that they also, will have to live under it.
    ;-) ;-)