Face the Nation: Rudy Giuliani on GOP race

I get the feeling throughout this interview that Giuliani is leaning towards Newt but still isn’t ready to endorse yet. He does have criticisms for both Newt and Romney, but his criticism of Romney has more to do with trust in that Romney has flipped on so many positions.

He also seems to think that Newt and Santorum need to get together and figure out which is the one to go forward so that the conservative vote, or non-Romney vote doesn’t keep getting split. But he’s not willing to say who should take that mantle because they both have good arguments for who is the better candidate.

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  • Santorum won’t drop. They both think they’ll benefit if the other one drops so its going to stay ugly for a while.

    • Anonymous

      But does Santorum have the money to stay in?

      I think not…

  • Linky1

    It’s a game of political Survivor between Newt and Santorum…….

    • B-Funk

      Yep, whoever wins that will probably be the nominee. The non-Rom vote is a majority.

      • Anonymous

        You may be wrong on that with Ron Paul the spoiler…

        • Spoiler??? I only vote for people who will shrink the size of government, which doesn’t include Mitt, Newt, nor Santorum. Each of which has a record for massively expanding government.

          • Anonymous

            listen. we have a problem. we will all go over that cliff soon and there will be no turning back. flattening the trajectory to the crapper, even a bit is a good thing. we have to change the occupants of that office.

  • ApplePie101

    What do you suppose the RNC told politicians will happen to them if they don’t endorse Romney?

    • What I want to know is why were both Jeb and Bush Sr. at the White House the other day and did Jeb promise to stay out of the race for something in return?

      • The Bushes aren’t all that popular or highly-rated among Tea Party/serious conservatives right now. Even Jeb.

    • Anonymous

      Um, we’ll cave to Maobama and the demoncrats even more than we already have?

    • Anonymous

      What will happen to them is not good for them and their family–End of career–cannot participate in Crony Politicalism.

  • Anonymous

    Newt’s baggage has been blown way out of proportion by the press and his contenders. He has provided them with anything they have asked for. He is not trying to hide his record, good or bad, it is his. His failures pale next to his successes.

    However, please tell me what Santorum has done? What are his accomplishments?
    Just a small list will do.

    Please do not mention Newt’s name in the list as a negative. Just tell me the key accomplishments RicK has made that will make him qualified to lead America.

    Here is the one thing he could go down in history for, and his grandfather would be very sad, he could destroy free America. He could ensure the re-election of Obama, or the election of the Obama look alike.

    He seems like a nice person, but he is not ready for prime time.

    List please.

    • Anonymous

      Here are his solutions and he laces it with his history. Too much to post otherwise.


      Newt’s tax plan is superior imo and Newt is vocally supporting the Tea Party and it’s principles louder and better than the rest of the candidates (with the possible exception of Ron Paul). That to me is his most attractive quality. He continues to at least say many of the right things. He remains a close 2nd to me in my book.

      I think Santorum’s “wrapper” is better and he simply has less dirt. Other than that, I think he offers a very clear and noticable contrast to Maobama.

      I hope this helps.

    • 1. Rick Santorum was a lead Senate author and floor manager of the 1996 welfare reform act, and the author of other successful legislation ranging from various anti-abortion bills to the Iran Freedom and Support Act. Those with longer memories will remember his leadership of the Gang of Seven in the early 1990s that did so much to publicize various ethics breaches in the House, helping set the stage for the historic 1994 Republican takeover of Congress.
      2. As almost any conservative will readily acknowledge, Santorum’s record of actually legislating on principle is stellar. Almost every conservative interest group rated him highly, with the American Conservative Union’s lifetime 88.1 rating for Santorum being typical.
      3. Rick Santorum is a man accustomed to beating long political odds. As late as election night in his first race for Congress in 1990, top staffers at the National Republican Congressional Committee weren’t even familiar with him – even as returns came in showing that, without a single bit of national party help, he had won an upset victory in western Pennsylvania.
      4. Santorum never stands; he keeps on running. As even the New York Times recently has noted, the former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania is out-working, out-hustling, and out-slogging everybody else in the field in Iowa, building a campaign organization in an old-fashioned, one-person-at-a-time manner more thorough than any candidate since Jimmy Carter first put Iowa on the presidential map in 1976. His 99-county campaign is probably unprecedented, and his energy is infectious.
      5. Conservatives heavily engaged in the wars over judicial nominations know that even though Santorum wasn’t on the Judiciary Committee, he ranked was one of the Senate’s two or three most stalwart, and effective, supporters of conservative selections, even when much of the rest of the Republican caucus didn’t want to be bothered.

    • Anonymous

      Surprised you haven’t done your homework. He’s done a lot as a young Senator. So much so that he became the third highest ranking Senator in his 40’s.

      However, please tell me what Santorum has done? What are his accomplishments? Just a small list will do.

      1. Santorum Authored the Bill for Welfare Reform. He was assigned as Floor General, to get it passed. Was involved in drafting the bill, and very hands on.
      which passed in 1996 that has empowered millions of Americans to leave the welfare rolls and enter the workforce. (Obama’s administration has undone his work in this legislation)

      2. Was part of the Gang of 7 he was involved in going after those involved with a Housing Scandal. Senator Santorum became one of the most successful government reformers in our history, taking on Washington’s powerful special interests from the moment he arrived in our nation’s Capitol. Along with John Boehner and Jim Nussle, Senator Santorum was a member of the famous “Gang of Seven” that exposed the Congressional Banking and Congressional Post Office scandals. It was this record of reform that prompted a Washington Post reporter to write in a recent article that “Santorum was a tea party kind of guy before there was a tea party.”

      3. In the 2000’s Santorum was responsible for getting the partial birth abortion passed.

      4. Santorum served 8 years on the Armed Forces Committee.

      5. He was responsible for passing Bills regarding Iran and Syria and was aware of their Nuclear program when Obama and BIden were saying it didn’t exist.

      6. He led the charge on Terry Schiavo, got the Senate to unanimously vote on that.

      He has debated with Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, he is familiar with Obama.

      His national experience makes him really balanced to actually attack Obama on multiple issues.

      A) Religious 1st Amendment rights/Obamacare
      B) Health Care Services
      C) Nuclear Iran, Islamic Issues/Foreign Policy
      D) Obama is the most pro-abortion president ever
      E) Entitlement Reform (reinstituing what Obama reversed on Welfare)

      Discounting the 2006 Bush anti-incumbent.
      Santorum was able to get elected against Democratic Incumbents , outnumbered by dems 3-to 1 …….in his House district . Then statewide election twice as a Senator with a 1 million Democrat disadvantage.
      So he’s 4 for 5 elections.

      This isn’t some inexperienced Neophyte.

      Here’s some insight in Santorum’s work on Welfare Reform


      But conservatives, who saw 1994 as their chance to win control of the House, were adamant that a compromise would only spoil their chances. “I wouldn’t blame Santorum, but [welfare-reform advocate] Clay Shaw actually wanted to go and do a compromise deal in 1994,” remembers Robert Rector, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation who advised congressional Republicans on the issue. “Given the salience of welfare reform at that time, it would have been a disaster for Republicans and a gift to Clinton.”

      Concerned with winning bipartisan support for the bill, Santorum and his ilk were more cautious. They avoided putting these stronger provisions in the bill. After Santorum won election to the Senate in 1994, he took up the cause on the floor of the upper chamber. As chair of the finance committee, which had jurisdiction in this area, Sen. Bob Packwood was meant to the lead the charge, but sexual-harassment charges distracted him and eventually lead to his resignation in September 1995.

      In response, Dole assigned Santorum to be the floor leader on the bill, a remarkable appointment for Santorum in Haskin’s eyes. “He gets elected to the Senate, he’s not on the finance committee, he’s a freshman, and Dole basically puts him in charge of floor operation on welfare. This is completely unheard of, and the reason he did it is Santorum is really, really smart,” Haskins concludes.

  • Anonymous

    I think you are right Scoop, he is leaning toward Newt.

  • Anonymous

    I love Rudy. I really do. He was my guy 2008. The guy is not really a moderate squish, he’s a hard-core conservative and he’s not scared to articulate those views.

    He is what he is.

    The guy can’t stand Flip Romoney. Still bad blood from 2008, and the fact that Flip is an unlikable weasel.

  • B-Funk

    Honestly, who cares who he endorses? Not to criticize, but I honestly can make up my own mind on who I like. And I’ve never disliked any of these guys so much that I won’t put up yard signs and vote enthusiastically for whomever is the nominee. Honestly, I hope that everyone keeps their eye on the ball. Obummer MUST lose!

    • kim

      I don’t like any enough TO put up yard signs. Yard signs are an endorsement that reflects on one’s judgment.

      • B-Funk

        I’m not sure what you mean, tbh.

    • cabensg

      If Obama must lose then get off the fence and make a decision.

      Gingrich is in the fight of his life to stay in this and is the conservative, intelligent plan oriented candidate to defeat Romney and Obama. He needs money to do this so do your due diligence, decide and contribute. I hope you choose Gingrich and if your like me maybe you don’t have big dollars to contribute. But small amounts from many really adds up. Don’t be sorry later that you didn’t decide and do something.

      • B-Funk

        Cool your jets! Good Lord! I have made a decision. My point is that whether or not my guy wins the nomination, I don’t have so much animus for the others that I won’t vote for them. I’ll do whatever I need to. Obama MUST lose! You’re not in a fight with me. We’re on the same side. I sure hope you’re not flaming other people like this. If they haven’t made a decision, that’s fine. There are forty-some states to go. Maybe they haven’t had a chance to vote yet.

  • Anonymous

    I think Rudy nailed it towards the end. He had to give his interpretation of Romneys comment. When 2, 3, 4, or 5 people have 2, 3, 4, or 5 interpretations of the same comment the comment is not articulated properly. When Newt speaks, I think we pretty much understand what he is saying without multiple choice opinions on his meanings. Romney has always been pushed into conservative positions to gain support and for Newt those positions are part of his instinctual make up.

    • you took the words out of mt mouth. Its my comment as well

      • Anonymous

        Thanks, so many times someone says what I mean but they say it so much better.

    • Anonymous

      Yep, I have no doubt about Newt’s sincerety concerning his desire for a moon colony. He is genuinely… flawed.

      • Persephone

        No it’s not.
        It’s brilliant and visionary.
        Bush was all for it, and had us on the path to going back to the moon…but the ZeroInChief destroyed the progam.

      • wodiej

        yep, lets’ keep living in “leave it to Beaver land.”….no thanks. Onward and upward for me.

      • Anonymous

        Establishing a moon colony is a great idea!

        Perfect place to send the obamessiah and his maoist legions…on a one way trip ticket.

      • Anonymous

        An idea for a moon colony doesn’t assume that you throw the economy under the bus. One thing that would pick our economy up more than anything is a nationwide project that gets many private industries involved. To actually be there in 8 years is not as important as getting started.

      • cabensg

        It’s not just about giving Americans something to hope for in the future. China, India and Russia are looking for dominance in space. Do we really want them looking down on us with missiles and spy ware? I don’t think so. It’s about thinking in futures as well as the present.

  • Anonymous

    Going back to the Nevada Caucus, I am a bit surprised by the results. Nevada has a population of +2.6M including a voting population of +1.7M. Even if you had to take the 1.7M apart, in terms of Independent, Republicans and Democrats, the voter turnout of the Caucus is still pretty low. At this hour, with 71% precinct reporting, the total number of voter turnout is still under 25,000.
    Yes, Romney is going to win… But it’s like winning in a teacup!

    • Anonymous

      And I’m surprised one county in NV is obviously holding back it’s votes – after all, how tough can it be to count a few thousand votes? You’d think the Rombots would be thrilled to give us the results, unless … maybe it didn’t go quite as well for them as they expected.

      • kim

        I heard that NV and the next few states are not duty-bound to split up their votes. Anyone know if this is true?

        • Anonymous

          My understanding of NV is that they will split them portionately.

  • StNikao
    • ApplePie101

      Though Santorum is my guy, I do enjoy listening to Newt apply his rhetorical baseball bat to the opposition.

    • Anonymous

      This is why we need a Newt Gingrich in the White House. He understands the questions, and knows how to answer them without all the stuttering of Obama & Romney.

      It is a terrible feeling to see the decay of this nation at the hands of people who have the ability to think, but refuse to be individuals just to survive.

      People of America; don’t you see what they are trying to do to our once free & beautiful America. They want to enslave us, take away our right to think, worship our God, live our lives in the pursuit of happiness.

      America, America, America how long will you walk in blindness and allow these false leaders take us down to the doorway of hell.

      It is time to take the risk and stand up.

  • wodiej

    For God’s sake, pick a side already! All of ya-PICK A SIDE!!

  • Anonymous

    Rudy would make a great Attoney General in Newt’s Administration.

  • Anonymous

    Gray whales & parasites.

    Interesting how they both survive off each other. This is what we have with Romney and Santorum. Santorum is using Romney’s money and negative adds against Newt to survive and Romney is using Santorum to split the conservative vote. It works in the wild and it works in politics.

    Santorum has latched unto every lie, story, & false accusations that Romney and Company has put out there against Newt. No need to have your own money chest when you can use someone elses.

    Romney needed someone like Santorum to keep dividing the conservative segment of the Republican party.

    Hence we have the whale (Romney) & the parasite Santorum.

    • Anonymous

      No need to have your own money chest when you can use someone elses.

      Wow. Really good point.

  • Anonymous

    Now Giuliani calls himself a moderate republican, yet I don’t think he’s “just like Obama” or a “RINO”. He shares the same views I do, socially liberal, very conservative on literally everything else. I mean, this exists. Limbaugh, who I listen to every day, says we don’t exist. Social conservatives say we’re just like Obama. Or that we’re liberals. But, I’m here, we’re here. I guess it’s one of those things where not everyone agrees on everything. I can’t stand liberals, progressives, democrats, socialists, communists, all those words that mean the same thing. I just don’t hate gay people, and abortion isn’t the first thing that pops into my mind when I wake up in the morning.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, you are a “moderate” democrat or liberal-lite. Sorry, but the comment about social conservaties “hating” gay people seals it. That is leftist groupthink “hyperbole” on display. You have been infected by the left and don’t even realize it.

      Just because you want to protective the definition of marriage doesn’t mean you are anti-gay. I am for gay people people having ALL of the same rights and privileges of married persons, but we do not need to re-define words. Let them have domestic partnerships and civil unions. Hell, they can even informally call it marriage on the street, but it is not a formal marriage as defined by God and man ages ago.

      As to abortion, when you care about life and protecting each precious life on this Earth, you don’t have to ponder your decision ever again. I see what you are saying here. Of course, you don’t want to think about killing an innocent fetus. That is why liberals (and liberal-lites apparently) get so outraged by showing women a sonogram prior to their consenting to the killing of a baby. Perhaps if you gave it more thought you would change your mind.

      • Anonymous

        I’m not really for gay marriage. I didn’t actually bring up gay marriage in my post either. I think marriage between a man and a woman has worked long enough, I think gay people should have the same rights but I don’t see why it should be labeled “marriage”.

        I guess you misunderstood me. I’m not for gay marriage, I just don’t actively dislike gay people.

        I’ve voted republican every election since Dole (first time I was old enough to vote).

        You’re the exact type of person I’m talking about: someone who will call someone a democrat, even though that person has never voted democrat, and doesn’t agree with anything the democrats do.

        • Anonymous

          I am another one who fits this description for the most part. I like a lot of social conservative positions, but don’t think the government should be enforcing them. (Abortion is an exception to this view and in my opinion should be illegal)
          It’s why I still am undecided. Paul is in my opinion, outright dangerous with his foreign policy, Romney is a political opportunist who will say anything to advance himself, Newt has progressive tenancies, and Santorum keeps hammering on, and seems to care more about, social issues instead of the economy and foreign policy.

          I’ll probably wind up supporting Newt or Santorum but nobody is standing out right now.

        • Anonymous

          That fact that you imply that Conservatives “actively dislike gay people” is pathetic and sad. Nevertheless, you sure do parrot a lot of the common leftist vitriol for someone that claims to have never voted for a democrat. P.S. Ever heard of a Reagan democrat? That is what you are bud.

  • Anonymous

    Think Newt would pull away with one little announcement……VP Palin or Paul (Rand). The republican party would look mighty different come 2016 and 2020 (the year of perfect vision)

    • Anonymous

      His best hope is that he keeps Sarah Palin doing the casual “vote for Newt in…” until Super Tuesday. Then, in the week prior to Texas, Palin must orgainize a Tea Party rally in Dallas and formally endorse Newt at that event. Without Texas, Newt is done.

  • I changed my mind about Santorum. I’m going with Newt and hope for the best. Was it Rush or Mark who said, what is this moderate Republican – you never hear moderate democrat!!

    • cabensg

      The Blaze. You might want to look around a little more for info.

  • Anonymous

    Newt will not concede to Santorum because he has more delegates. Santorum will not drop out because he has no job and nowhere to turn to if he folds. Unfortunately, these are two sad facts.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone needs to read this report at Fox News:


    SHAME on you NV GOP. What a disgrace you are to the party.

  • Anonymous

    To me it sounds more like he’s leaning toward Romney. He spent an awful lot of time on Newt’s Bain issue and completely ignored that Romney started all the mud slinging (my husband listening from across the room says, “doesn’t anybody care that Romney started it?!”). Newt dropped it but Giuliani didn’t. Then he went on to say Newt was wrong to call Romney out for sounding like a liberal on the poor/class difference. I would guess he supports Newt over Santorum. But I’m not sure he’s at all convinced he supports Newt over Romney. At least, I got the distinct impression he was blaming Newt a lot more than Romney about the Democrat type criticism.

    Other than that, he sounds a lot like Palin re: waiting to see and focusing on issues.

    • cabensg

      Yeah! Waiting. All I can say is thanks for nothing.

  • Anonymous

    No one can tell which one should drop out, but they are taking votes from each ohter and in essence helping Romney. I do not want Romney, as I have said before, I do not trust him to repeal Obamacare.

  • Anonymous

    I like Rudy and he did a whole lot for NY. He is not, however, a conservative. Not as bad as Bloomberg, but definitely not conservative.

    • cabensg

      Exactly. He was a great Mayor in New York and by their standards he was conservative but not by ours. That doesn’t mean I don’t like him or appreciate what he did both in New York and after 9/11. The reason he’s on the fence is simple he agrees a little more with Romney than he does with Gingrich. It would still be a good thing if he came out for Gingrich.

      I expect if Romney wins Giuliani will stump for him.

  • Rudy

    Romney is a Luddite and we are in the 21st Century we need a President with “Big Ideas” and not someone routed in the past.

    Going to the Moon. Mars, and Beyond is a “Big Idea” not a SNL joke.

    We need Newt a president for the 21sr Century.

    Join the Newt Revolution, and send the message to the Luddites in the GOP Establishment nd their allies Republicans in Checkbook Only (RICO:S)

    Go Newt Go

    Before there was the “Oracle at Delphi” there was Count Vampire J. Machiavelli

    VJ Machiavelli
    Power to the People who “VOTE”

  • Anonymous

    I was just over at Redstate, and there is a blog written by Santorum knocking Newt for the Space thing. I didn’t find that remarkable, as he has already blasted Newt for that in an Ad. What I did find remarkable was the comments underneath..not one supported him for what he wrote…in fact they demolished him. He is beginning to make people angry that he is fastly becoming a spoiler. He was my second choice, and still will be if something happens with Newt, but I am not happy at the way he doggedly stays in when he has no viable way forward. Santorum..pull a Perry and be a hero, not a zero!

  • Anonymous

    Romney is a first-rate flopper of the worst kind, and I’ll eat my hat if he’s our nominee. (Man, I hope it goes down OK.) BUT:
    Where is there room, legitimately, for a politician to say “I have personally held this position in the past and voted accordingly, but in light of what has obviously become the will of the people, if elected as your representative I would vote for ___ and ___ and fight to represent you by following conservative/liberal principles in all other related matters.” If a politician can prove and outwardly express that he’s REPRESENTING, and not flopping is that necessarily political suicide?
    What’cha’ll think?

    • Anonymous

      Honestly I do think that there is room for it, provided they make that case, but I can’t of anyone who actually has. The closest example I can think of is the dems from the coal mining areas who rebelled against Obama on energy policy, but they still got into trouble from their constituents for supporting his other programs.

      Also, there are some core principles that you should never bend on, for instance you could argue that even if your district wanted obama care by a massive margin, you could have said either there is no way we can afford it or that congress doesn’t have the power to force people to buy something.

      Finally, I don’t think Romney could realistically make that claim since he has spent so much time defending some of his liberal positions, that to say he didn’t like them but went with the people would be political suicide.

      Presidents and governors can’t really make that argument either as if there is that much support, a veto can, and likely will, be overturned. If the veto would work, then there is not a clear majority in favor of a policy.

    • Anonymous

      I think it is easier for them to say, “this is who I am and that if that represents you, vote for me.”

      The thing that is the big problem, though, is when they present themselves as being thus and so but once elected vote antithetically to who they said they were. That is when people feel betrayed.

  • PFFV

    The smartest thing to do for the nation is for Newt to announce Santorum as his VP. It will turn the vote towards true conservatism

    • cabensg

      To be honest I don’t even want Santorum on the ticket. If Newt wants to pick someone who ran I think Perry would be a better choice.

  • Anonymous

    If willard thinks he can beat 0b0, why didn’t he run against 0b0 in a democrat primary.

  • cabensg

    Santorum doesn’t really bring much to the table. I guess that doesn’t matter to many.

    I’m really sick of people who definitely don’t want Romney just sitting on the fence. Now is the time to get behind Gingrich, especially financially. Santorum is better than Obama but that’s setting the bar really low. We need someone who’s going to raise the bar not barely squeeze under it.

    Gingrich can beat Romney and he can annihilate Obama but I guess governing effectively and putting this country back on the right track isn’t the goal or they wouldn’t be pushing Santorum.

    When the chips were down under extreme pressure Gingrich came through as a conservative. When the chips were down in Santorum’s case, wishy washy is the kindest phrase I could come up with, devoid of conservative principles better describes it.

    So go ahead support Santorum and when Romney hands him his head and is the nominee let the whining begin from Guiliani, Rush, Levin and Palin.


  • StNikao

    Romney is now turning his guns on Santorum, sending out three Anti-Rick press releases in the last 24 hours.


  • Anonymous

    If both Santorum and Newt stay in, Romney will win with under 50% of the vote. Ron Paul will never drop out. He loves playing the spoiler.