By The Right Scoop


Herman Cain came out in support for collective bargaining for wages and other benefits for public sector employees at the Journal Sentinel.

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Monday that he believes public employees should be allowed to bargain collectively on wages and other benefits as long as it does not create an undue burden on taxpayers. …

Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”

Told they didn’t, he said, “They have unions.”

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And then there is this video on Libya. I think it’s much worse than the Perry flub in the debate. Just watch:

Sorry guys, but I’ve been behind Cain for a long time and I can’t support him any longer. He is sounding worse and worse as time goes on and that Libya answer…it was horrible. It’s like he’s afraid to say the wrong thing and his fumbling around was cringe worthy. There are other videos at the Journal Sentinel and you can go there and listen and read. I don’t think anything he could say now will convince me to support him. I need competence in a president.

Another look at Newt?

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  • Anonymous

    Bye Bye Cain …. Go back to selling pizza’s .

    • Anonymous

      Low dude. Real low. So low, it almost makes me sick.

      • Anonymous

        Since when is “Bye Bye” considered “Low”?? You sure get “sick” easily.

        • Anonymous

          Hey. Maybe I do get sick easily, but its better than NOT BEEN ABLE TO READ! There were five more words in baja’s sentence. Sorry you missed them. But once again, nice and slowly for you now, they are as follows: “G-O B-A-C-K T-O S-E-L-L-I-N-G P-I-Z-Z-A”

          Now, I’m no expert but last I checked, such statements are intended to be derisive. In this case, they were unduly so… VERY MUCH unduly so!

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/U7LQAHKQMWAXNV3PT4SPJ4ZKTY Danny

        Much in the way you might feel after actually consuming a Godfather’s Pizza?

    • Anonymous

      Cain’s wife is doing a great job on Greta. She’s awesome. Folks are going to love her.

    • Liberty Tree

      He’s a smart and great guy, but just not ready for this level yet! We need someone who is competent on the issues. That doesn’t mean he needs to know everything, but when I know more than him about Libya and i just started tuning into politics and issues facing our country 3 years ago, that is BAD! i don’t want someone who is going to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, who is supposedly going to lead the free world, to be this ignorant about foreign policy. He’ll have some experts around him, but C’MON at least know more than me about these things, and i don’t know much, so that’s saying a lot about what he knows about foreign policy!

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Mr. Cain needs that long nap… like today.

    It is obvious that foreign policy is not his strong suit, but we still need his spirit in the economic discourse and I’m not quite ready to fold regarding his campaign.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

    Rick Perry is just as bad and you keep supporting him.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      Perry’s never been this bad. To quote Michelle Malkin, Cain now makes Perry look like a Mensa president

      • Anonymous

        Now?

        Thank you Right Scoop!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax

          As I said earlier, the way Cain gets mixed up, it would be a disaster for that to happen in a debate against Obama. This is what a primary is all about though. Thanks to Cain for getting tax reform aggressively on the table.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

        Now it is your job to get Mark Levin to stop carrying the water for Herman Cain and Rick Perry. Conservatism will only get you so far if you don’t have the brainpower required for the Job.

        • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

          He’s not been carrying the water for anyone.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

            Yes he has. Him and Rush are both carrying Rick Perry’s water. I heard Hugh Hewitt who is a freind of Mark Levin say that he thinks Mark might be doing it in order to get Romney to stay more conservative. Right now I am an undecided voter. I just want one of the competent candidates to win. Gingrich ,Romney and Huntsman are all competent and Michelle Bachmann has been impressive lately. I am afraid some skeletons from Newts past will come back to haunt him. I would love to see Newt debate Obama though. It would be sweet.

            • Anonymous

              You need to tune in to Levin and hear him for yourself. He absolutely has not endorsed anyone. He invites everyone on his show and he asks questions that no one else has. He doesn’t like the primaries being moved up because he wants as much time as possible for the voters to learn about ALL the candidates and make their choices.
              He does not want the media picking the candidate and does not dogpile on any of the conservatives in the race though he did state that he feared a Romney win might destroy the Republican party.
              He wants the most conservative candidate possible but will support whoever gets the nomination.

              • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

                I listen to Mark Levin everyday.

                • Anonymous

                  With both ears???

                • Anonymous

                  Clearly not.

              • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex

                Doesn’t he work in “the media”?

            • Anonymous

              Man, I’d pay for seat to that debate!

            • Anonymous

              Brian, curious what you think of Santorum?

              I don’t agree they are necessarily carrying anyone’s water. I just think that they do what they always do: protect conservatives from an unfair onslaught from the media. Think about it, Perry and Cain have taken most of the arrows.

              I don’t think Newt gives two hoots about what skeletons will get dug up. They’ve already been unearthed. There is nothing new. He was skewered back in the nineties. He was the Grinch, remember? They can dredge up the past. Newt has been through it 1000 times. It won’t even phase him or his constituency. It is a double standard, I know. But it is true.

              One more thing, I don’t think Huntsman even comes close to representing the conservative base.

              • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex

                Like he was a huge supporter of Nafta and GATT? Without Newt those wouldn’t have ever passed? Like those skeletons? Even if Newt doesn’t give two hoots everyone else should.

                • Anonymous

                  I don’t think Nafta is a skeleton. You might, but conservatives are relatively decided on that issue. Reagan, Thatcher, and others supported it. There is data on both for and against this agreement. I, for one, consider myself a conservative and have no issue with Nafta despite its flaws. If that is Newt’s worst, he’s doing fine.

              • cabensg

                Huntsman not only doesn’t represent the base he is in almost every way a liberal. He should actually just change parties instead of pretending he’s a Republican. Even the word Rino doesn’t go far enough to describe his beliefs.

            • Anonymous

              I listen to Hugh as well every day. He is an ‘establishment’ man. He isn’t as conservative as Mark. You know not of what you speak. If you don’t like what Levin or Rush are saying why listen? They speak the truth. You can’t handle it and you think beating those who don’t like Romney into submission will help. Well it won’t. I’ve become annoyed with Hugh because he never asks Romney to appeal to conservatives. He disregards the base in assumption that we have no one else to vote for while Obama is busy appealing to his base. Maybe it’s Romney who should wake up. This whole topic really ticks me off. Romney is a NE schister and I love in the NE I’ve see them all.
              Their instituting the IPAB in Mass? Read about that. Still Romney’s out there defending. Suck it up Mitt admit your mistakes and perhaps you might win over a few conservatives. BLECH.
              And Patriot077 below is correct.

        • mike morrison

          This ISN’T Jeopardy, it’s about ideas and Cain’s are the most aggressive and conservative of any of the other candidates. Period.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex

            More aggressive then cutting 1 trillion in spending? Shoving a federal sales tax down our throats on top of whatever state taxes are is aggressive alright. Just the wrong kind.

            • Anonymous

              Here you go again. Label it whatever kind of tax you want. It is a better idea than what is on the table today. If Cain wants to lower my federal withholding to 9%, then I can take a use tax.
              Thinking outside the box is exactly what is needed for tax reform. Cain brought a serious issue to the front with 999. I thank him for that. I personally believe that there needs to be a constitutional vetting of the legality of a national sales tax, but owering overall tax burden while working through the elimination of the 47/53% problem we have today is a good thing.
              I also welcome Newt and Perry’s flat tax proposals. Again, it is about bringing the ideas to the front for serious discussion.

        • Anonymous

          Levin has been VERY measured in his take regarding Cain. He has been extremely enthusiastic about Cain but he has not “carried water” or endorsed Cain. Mr. Levin is far too intelligent to go out on a limb prior to the aaaallll important vetting process.

        • Anonymous

          He’s not carrying their water. Why don’t you go get Mitt to care about the conservative base he NEEDS to get elected. What you said is a crock. Makes me question who’s lacking the brainpower. It certainly isn’t Levin.

      • mike morrison

        You obviously have never seen him in debates in Texas. He’s HORRIBLE. Debra Medina made him look like an idiot. He doesn’t even know the Texas Constitution.

        • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

          U R right 3 terms so far. Best state economy. Lowest state taxes. If that is horrible, give me MORE MORE MORE.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG7QND4SBQWUHLQPCII7H24ROM zaq

        Then, Malkin is just as bad as Right Scoop. These candidates go 90 to nothing….to expect them to snap off answers in a heartbeat that is almost robotic. They are not robots. I rather see them mull it over.

        This was said to be a 45 minute interview with topics all over the place. If you expect them to not pause and reflect on a topic, we are being naive.

        • mike morrison

          I thought this, as well…this interview was much more relaxed. I think he knew he was asked a “gotcha” open ended vague question and he stopped, thought about it, then made them narrow the scope of the question and then answered with an appropriate response.

          This is much ado about nothing literally. It just looks like someone’s trying to find ANY little thing that can be construed as a gaffe or blunder by Cain to tear him down as fast as possible.

          Sexual assault charges have not amounted to ONE bit of evidence so “let’s get him on the stump”…

          I’m standing with CAIN!

          • Anonymous

            I totally agree! He was thinking about an answer, gosh Herman Cain thinks! what a concept. I don’t mind that he was taking the time to answer a question. besides, the question was worded strangely as well. “Do you agree with Obama on Libya?” Its like what do you mean agree? what side was Obama even on? did he get the result he wanted? We don’t even know what result Obama wanted! So how can anyone agree or disagree with Obama’s position on Libya? No one knows what it is!!!

      • Anonymous

        Wasn’t Cain literally a rocket scientist and mathematics major?

        Are you being a bit unfair? Herman has been getting HAMMERED for the past two weeks with crap slung in his face.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know. Perry is just as bad as Cain?

  • Dan

    well i guess i have to go with Newt then…sorry Mr.Cain you lost me…….

    • mike morrison

      yeah…great idea. Newt has more baggage than all the other candidates combined. This isn’t Jeopardy, it’s voting for someone with ideas to fix the country. The GOP Establishment does not want Cain to win so they’re attacking him and trying to tear him down focusing on his mistakes or fumbles and ignoring all the other candidates who, in the debate Saturday night, made several big mistakes…no on reports those here, though. The GOP destroys Cain, push his idea of getting rid of the IRS and the 16th amendment, prop up Newt (who has MASSIVE personal issues that they’ll be able to FACTUALLY attack him over), and then promptly boot him after destroying him, and roll out the red carpet for Romney who is NOT a conservative….he’s more of a liberal than even Huntsman.

      Wake up, folks…vote for the ideas, not the image.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

        Newt can be our Winston Churchill. Churchill was drunk most of the time but he was always the smartest man in the room.

        • Jeff Song

          I don’t know about the smartest, but he certainly knows his stuff. I would add sly to the properties of Newt. The question that needs to be asked is “Do you know what direction Newt would take things?” It doesn’t matter what he tells me, I have no trust in what he says is what he would really do.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex

          Yes attacking Iran sheer “genius” no negative consequences there!

      • Dan

        so you listen to the Soviet Style Propaganda Machine and believe what the say about Newt…..hummmmm…makes me wonder about you….any one who favors Unions in public sector jobs will not get my vote…UNION =COMMUNISM

        • mike morrison

          I LOVE Newt…own his books…he was my hero in the 90’s, but let’s not kid ourselves. He has REAL baggage and if the GOP is successful in tearing down Cain by propping up Newt, Newt’s head is the next to be on the chopping block. I’d totally support Cain/Newt or Newt/Cain but that’s not going to happen. Newt will be slaughtered and he can’t raise enough money to be Romney as Cain can at this point. All the other candidates are supporting the status quo when it comes to tax reform and the IRS except Ron Paul who is just naive on foreign policy issues and can’t win because of them. Cain is the ONLY candidate who is trying to get rid of the IRS, ditch the 16th amendment, and get the country growing again. Newt has also been on the wrong side of conservative issues many times the last few years and that will hurt him badly once the press starts those stories they ALREADY HAVE WRITTEN. Cain is the only viable REAL conservative candidate. Winning the Whitehouse is not a game of Jeopardy–it’s about ideas and Cain’s are better than anyone else’s at blasting the control of the US economy by D.C. and the IRS.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax

            Almost all of them have real baggage.

            • mike morrison

              Cain doesn’t…only the trumped up sexual harassment charges.

              • Anonymous

                Cain’s baggage is that he can never answer a question without having to “clarify” or restating a position. And, as I have been saying, he can’t articulate any policy stances for the exact reason that you saw above. You can’t be a one trick pony and be a successful president. If he doesn’t have any convictions and has to rely on a “plethora” of advisers to tell him what to do all the time, he is NOT the guy to be running this country and leading the conservative charge. IMHO of course :)

                • Anonymous

                  Here, here! My thoughts exactly.

              • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex
                • Anonymous

                  I thought I smelled a paulbot based on your previous comments.

              • Anonymous

                I agree Mike. My issue with Cain lately is that he isn’t articulating himself. He seems ill-prepared—perhaps his campaign management isn’t prepping him well. Not sure. I’m just tired of seeing him make news because he is ill prepared or choosing a bad sentence string (just to walk back a comment a day later or go clarify what he meant). That’s my ONLY issue with him. I support him, and will stand behind him as a nominee. However, I’m wavering on my primary vote for him.

                The good news is we have great candidates for the most part. I, for one, do not subscribe to the narrative that we have a motley crew for a candidate pool.

          • Jeff Song

            Whether Ron Paul is naive with his foreign policy or not, is irrelevent at this point. The US empire will fall.

            The only way that you can fix the economy is to understand why it got the way it is now. The only one that understands why the US is in such a mess is Ron Paul, so he is the only one that will really apply the proper solutions.

            The others are starting to copy what he says here and there, but they don’t really understand what they are saying and they certainly don’t have the big picture understanding that is needed.

          • Dan

            sorry but i can’t and wont support a union appeaser…i hate everything to do with unions….

            • mike morrison

              Focus, Dan…the president can’t do anything or much of anything regarding unions. Federal unions don’t have collective bargaining rights and unless Congress passed a bill that tried to give them to them, a President Cain wouldn’t even get close to this issue….we need the IRS to go away, we need to control spending, we need to reassert ourselves militarily speaking, we need to fix the trade imbalance and currency manipulating that’s going on with China…Cain is VERY qualified to do all of those things.

              • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

                Dittos Mike…

                Before listening to the two Cain video segments, I was reading your comments Mike, and I noticed that you were extremely focused on your defense of Cain and his comments about collective bargaining and Libya, and also Gingrich’s baggage.

                After listening to the two videos segments, I have to agree with you Mike.

                If we know Cain at all by now, he is for freedom for “we the people” and not for unions per se.

                He’s simply expressing a pragmatic point that collective bargaining is part of the landscape, so, collective bargaining must be addressed as to it’s excesses that hurt the citizens of the state and, these are now my own thoughts and words, promote the agenda of the union bosses… i.e., marxism uber alles.

                As to Libya, Cain’s deliberate and thoughtful and nuanced answer about what the interviewer was really asking shows Cain is learning and is becoming appropriately shrewd… sorta like Gingrich.

                Over all, Cain still has my support… and so does Gingrich… except for his FLAT Tax proposal as found on his Newt.org site.

                I still prefer Cain’s 9-9-9 Phase 1 FLAT Tax and transition to Phase 2 FAIR Tax… and elimination of the IRS.

                Gingrich, however, since the 80’s has promoted only a FLAT Tax of around 20%.

                Art

                • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax

                  Gingrich’s flat tax plan is now 15%. Listen I like Cain but we can’t have a situation like this in a debate with Obama. He would be eaten alive by the media. And he just seems a little unsure on some issues.

                • mike morrison

                  I don’t think he’s unsure on issues…I think he’s not a professional politician.

                • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                  Like Obummer

                • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex
              • Anonymous

                I agree with you and Art. I don’t have a problem with Cain’s answer. He said unions should be able to have a say in there wages if it doesn’t have an undue burden on the tax payer- that makes sense!

                • Anonymous

                  Wow. So many of us are desensitized to what true leadership is, we will settle for this ignoramus.

                • Anonymous

                  wait are you serious? Cain an ignoramus? he paused before answering a question- he’s not stupid. The man is actually brilliant and driven person and natural leader and always has been.

              • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                Sorry MM, wrong again! Read Harry Truman. Cain is okay, but knows absolutely nothing about government. Just another Obduma.

          • Dan
      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax

        Can Cain win a debate with Obama? And how would it look for that to happen in front of millions of people? I like Cain and have been pulling for him all this time but Newt is winning me over.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

          He can win a debate against Obama if there’s no notes, teleprompters, or a man behind the curtain whispering in his ear. Besides, the debates are not the end all, be all anyway. I’m tired of who wins this debate or that debate being the golden boy of the week.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax

            Not if he pulls that stunt once or twice. And yes it matters greatly for the undecideds. Sorry. I was pulling for him and defending him and will still defend him against the stupid allegations.

        • mike morrison

          We’re deciding the presidency based on playing “Jeopardy” 60 second answers to gotcha questions???

          C’mon…it’s about ideas and principles. I love Newt’s mind and his ideas…but he supported Cap and Trade, Climate Change, individual mandates for health insurance, among other NON CONSERVATIVE policies.

          Cain wants to get rid of the IRS, repeal the 16th amendment, eventually replace the income tax with a consumption tax. Just on those THREE ISSUES Cain should be elected in a landslide.

      • Anonymous

        Open your eye’s people!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

      nice fair weather supporter you are. I’d like to see you come up with an answer at the snap of a finger on 4 hours sleep when the question is open-ended. Hope you like 4 more years of Obama because that’s what we’re going to have if anyone but Cain gets the nomination.

      • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

        POTUS don’t get to sleep, Karla, it is not like being a CEO.

  • Anonymous

    Ugh – I hate to agree with you Scoop (well, I don’t really hate to agree with you), but on this one, I think I do. I’ve felt it for awhile & have tried to watch it play out. I don’t like the ridiculous circus of allegations – that has nothing to do with my decision about Cain. It’s just watching a plain-spoken, passionate fella like Cain speak less & less coherently about issues. They won – they got him off track & he’s falling apart. :( I still love him & am thankful that his presence in the race shoved all the others into re-visiting the tax code & back to the right, but I think his time in this race is coming to a close.

    • Anonymous

      Not yet!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

      For all that is Holy, he is NOT falling apart. He had 4 hours of sleep and had to answer questions that were all over the map. How would you answer the question “Do you agree with Obama on Lybia?” at the snap of your fingers? Do we even know what Obama’s position on Lybia is??

      • Dan

        its not a matter of being fair weather it is a mater of UNIONS—–i hate UNIONS….will not vote for a union man and that looks like what CAIN is….now if he changes his mind and reverses his stand then maybe….but then he looks like a waffler….he’s either not sure of himself or if he is tired—–take a dam break….

      • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

        Oddly I do, he wants to send aid to Lybia, so they can train more terrorists. Of course, I am not a CEO, just read history and news. Oh, I am better than Cain at Math, or so school told me.

  • Anonymous

    Cain is out like McCain. Maybe next time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

      Cain is NOT out yet. I am getting sick and tired of all of these Fair Weather supporters. Are all of you people just resigned to the fact that without Cain, we will have 4 more years of Obama? I hate to say it but unless there is a Black man on the GOP side of the election, the race card will still be on the table and Obama will tout it for all it’s worth.

  • Daumin Franks

    I don’t see anything all that bad in the video.

    Clearly, Cain answered the question on Libya poorly. Foreign policy is not his strong suit. But he can remedy that. He can become more knowledgable in the coming months. And let’s face it — most presidents rely heavily on counsel when making any decisions about foreign affairs. I think Cain can make good decisions when given good council.

    • Anonymous

      Thank You!!! Sanity at last!

    • Anonymous

      I’m particularly tired of the news media trying for gotcha moments. “Do you agree with the president as to what he said three days ago?” “As pertaining to what?” “As pertaining to what he said. Answer yes or no.” They need to be called out on this. “Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?” In what regard, please. Stop with the trick questions and just ask something straightforward. That’s all I’d like to see. Not gonna happen, tho.

      • Anonymous

        how could he agree with Obama’s position on Libya? No one knows Obama’s position on Libya. He never clarified his position thats what was the big problem

    • Anonymous

      I understand where you’re coming from, but this idea of “doing better with good counsel” never sits well with me. Not just in regard to Cain.

      We need a President who is the cream of the crop, with a broad understanding on all of the issues that he’ll face, probably a specialist in a few. Relying on counsel only goes so far, especially when you have to make a quick decision, you’ll be the one held accountable for it, and you have the power to ignore said counsel.

      Relying on counsel just doesn’t fly for me.

      Does it put Cain out of the race in my mind? It hurts him for me. I’m not thrilled with any of the candidates we have so far, and it sucks that they each start looking better by comparison to one another.

      • mike morrison

        Cain is a specialist in business…we need JOBS and tax reform not a geography test or a discussion of something that won’t happen in D.C. pertaining to unions. Carter banned collective bargaining! Guess who thought they had collective bargaining back in February of this year??? OBAMA! and he’s been in office for 3 years. Do you see RightScoop making mention of that or anyone else for that matter????????????????

        Nope. Now let’s get back to electing a real conservative and not settle for Obama-lite: Romney.

        • Anonymous

          Dude, sorry, but you’re on fire!! Keep it up! People need to be pointed in the right direction on this matter, instead of sticking the knife in on our own.

        • Anonymous

          What evidence do you have that Cain is a conservative? Everyone assumes he is, but his positions on abortion, TARP, and a host of other things makes me say otherwise.

          • Anonymous

            Exactly! He is pro-life but thinks a woman should have the right to do with her body as she wants, such as, it’s a family decision whether to abort a child due to rape. He was not very staunch on his stance when they directed the question to what he and his family should do in that instance. On TARP, he agreed with the principle but not the execution. How about comparing this to his statement on collective bargaining … collective bargaining he supports “as long as it doesn’t create an undue burden on states, gov’t, the taxpayers … again, the principle is one thing, the exectution is another”. What does he think the unions do with all the power they get with collective bargaining? Do they just “pull back” from the bargaining because they suddenly have an ephipany and realize they are being “unfair”????

            • Anonymous

              He believes abortion should be illegal. However, as president he has no power to make abortion illegal. So he, as president, cannot impact the decision of anyone regarding abortion. It’s naive of the other contenders to think they that they can change the current laws that were imposed by the supreme court. He said he would defund planned parenthood and would appoint pro life judges to the Supreme Court. Thats all he can do for the cause!!!

              In this country, it is the family’s choice- by the way he said family, not just the woman’s- to get an abortion. The president can’t change that. That was us being stupid and allowing it to be voted in years ago.

              • Anonymous

                I believe a pregancy from rape is a very difficult decision, but it is still a baby. And if he is prolife he would have stated that. Everyone always throws the commander in chief can’t do anything argument, but that doesn’t mean he can’t state his stance unequivicobly. He is just way to wishy washy for my taste and this is just one issue. Again, he doesn’t have much substance on ANY policy except 999.

                • mike morrison

                  He said he is 100% prolife in every situation. How can he be more prolife than that? The only other GOP candidate that is at least as prolife as he is, is Santorum.

                  Also, Cain has given 1 million dollars of his own money in prolife causes. How much do you think any of the other candidates have donated????

                  The president can’t overturn Roe v Wade on his own. He said he’d defund planned parenthood and stop all federal support of abortions if put in front of him to pass.

                • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                  FYI donations to charity are deductable from your CEO income tax. I wonder how many millions he saved. Just stick with the campaign issues.

                • Anonymous

                  he believes that pregnancy from rape is a very difficult decision too, thats what he said in the original interview. I don’t understand how he is wishy-washy. Theres wishy-washy and then there’s the media trying to portray someone as wishy-washy

                • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                  I have no clue where you are coming from, but I have had that experience. Rape is a violent, destroying act, to an innocent woman. Do you have any idea how pregnancy changes a woman? Are you in favor of, okay destroy the woman, have a abused baby, ruin 2, 3, 4 lives. Abortion for rape, or incest, is not a real decision, if you understand. I think Cain is removed from all that, and dislike him for it.

              • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                Like Perry said, you have a heart. POTUS can glut the Supreme court,and get any diecison he wants. Just watch Obs work.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

              I don’t know what my family would do in an instance like that. I am pro-life but I cannot fault a woman who feels her only recourse is to abort a baby that was conceived through rape or incest. I don’t like it personally, but I couldn’t throw her under the bus for it. I also have a unique perspective on this because my husband’s cousin contracted a bad strain of colon cancer. It was caught at an ultrasound after she found out she was pregnant. She was so early in her pregnancy that if she put off treatment, her and the baby would both die, so the family made the heartbreaking decision to have an abortion done so that she could start treatment. I don’t like it, and we cried almost all day when we found out, but at the same time, we couldn’t fault them for that decision.

              • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

                Moving story! Think about a married raped woman. If the act does not destroy the family, the daily reminder surely will. That is a 4 fer. Don’t even consider adoption. I have seen ‘instituional adoption’, and it is a real horror story. Convient abortion is an entirely different situation. U would not even begin to believe the terrible effects of incest. I who lived it, cannot fully understand it my self.

          • Anonymous

            Herman Cain would not retract his statements about the mission of Planned Parenthood. No other candidate is on record discussing defunding the abortion organization nor its targeted, historical purpose to this extent. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/herman-cain-wont-retract-planned-parenthood-planned-genocide

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

            His position on abortion is that he is pro-life and always has been. All he has said is that as president he can’t force the issue, and unlike our current premier Obama, he won’t force Executive Orders everywhere, but he did say that if Congress brings legislation to his desk that defunds Planned Parenthood and makes abortion illegal, he will sign it. Yes, he did support the first TARP until he saw what happened with the money. What host of other things do you have a problem with and maybe some of us can set you straight?

            • Anonymous

              i have seen cain on both sides of the abortion issue. when we was running for senate, he made exceptions for rape and incest. his campaign also told cnn a few weeks ago that he would make exceptions, but the next time he was asked he changed his mind.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

          Dittos Mike. Cain also has a specialty in the military with regard to ballistic missile defense. You are all aware that he used to be a mathematical analyst for ballistics in the Department of the Navy don’t you? Cain is VERY intelligent. More intelligent, I grant, than most any of us here. Stop being fair weather supporters. Stand behind him and see this through or see the country crumble even further.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            I still say the campain slogan should be “Rocket Scientist or Community Organizer?”

            • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

              I like hamburger, socialist, or proven ability.

          • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

            Remember Carter, he was a nuclear submarine commander. Look what he did to the USA. Look at the records, people.

        • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

          Gee why don’t we elect Perry who has done all these great things, as an chief excutive. Nah, U still don’t understand government.

    • mike morrison

      I thought his answer on Libya was dead on…the journalists were clearly trying to trip him up. He had to qualify the questions repeatedly. They did the same thing to Palin: Do you support the Bush Doctrine? etc….

      Again, this ain’t Jeopardy…this is about electing someone with ideas to fix the country and Cain’s tax plan is the most aggressive. Do away with the IRS and the 16th amendment??? Sorry…I’m sticking with Cain all the way. I will not support Romney/Obama-lite.

    • Anonymous

      At the beginning of the Lybia thing I remember thinking some of the exact same thoughts that Cain stated – along with another glaring neon sign flashing in my head “Why the H… does bo have us in Libya???”. And then this thought “Oh well, what do you expect when a child is sent in to do an adult’s job”.

    • Anonymous

      “Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.” [Prov 15:22]

      Like I said before….Cain is just going by what he learned in the BOOK!

  • Anonymous

    I hate it when he keeps preceding every sentence with: Now let me tell you what I mean by that. If the answer is so unclear that you have to state your point again, then you just lost that point.

    My thoughts have been for some time, Gingrich/Cain. I’ve changed my mind.
    Gingrich/?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG7QND4SBQWUHLQPCII7H24ROM zaq

      Then, obviously you do not understand communications 101 if you don’t like the way he approaches it. You make a point and then you reiterate it with supporting points. This is taught in college level communications courses

      • Anonymous

        I understand WHY he says it,
        it just gets on my nerves
        and has become so repetitive.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah… kinda like Obama saying “let me make my self perfectly clear”. Then you hit the snooze button ’cause you just know he doesn’t have the foggiest idea of what he’s talking about.

        Cain… on the other hand I believe, does clarify when he says, “let me say what I mean by that”.

        He’s weak in a number of areas… and the press is doing “gotcha” with convoluted questions. Is it a weak spot? You bet! But don’t write off Cain quite yet.

      • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

        U forget so soon, it is not make point and continue to explain, it is make points 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 ,6, all supporting each other. Then, U get to go to grad school.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

      He’s reiterating himself because many in the media have a hearing problem and he wants to make for sure they heard him right. I have no problem with that.

      I think many people don’t really like Cain and are just looking for a reason to say “no thanks”. Well, not me.

      I am a mother of two and I believe that Cain is the best man to bring this country around so that my children actually have a country to grow up in.

    • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

      DB, that is taught as a way of thinking of a more convincing lie. Journalism 101.
      Try Perry/Gingrich, with Sarah as Sec state.

  • Anonymous

    Ginrich has been running a steady, paced race. He has been watching the other contestants stumble, fall, run out of steam but he picks his spots wisely. He’ll be there in the end. Don’t think he hasn’t been preparing for the onslaught that will be coming from the left. If he’s not your guy just remember the goal, we must remove the traitor in your White House.

    • mike morrison

      I will NOT replace one Obama with another one: Romney.

    • Anonymous

      HIGH TREASON in the White House.

    • Anonymous

      The tortoise and the hare , haha ?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve already switched over to either Newt or Bachmann. The last debate was enough for me to abandon Cain. I do like him, but he needs more coaching. Maybe next election cycle I can be persuaded

    • mike morrison

      We don’t have another election cycle to save our country. Cain is the only conservative that can win and has enough money to beat Romney. This is ALL about getting Romney elected…Romney=Obama

      • Jeff Song

        O come on. Cain doesn’t have enough understanding of anything that is happening to be able to fix anything. Cain called the people that said the housing bubble was about to pop as not only wrong, but irresponsible – can this person that shows this level of understanding be the one that will fix anything?

        I don’t even need to get into Tarp and the Fed and Greenspan to show his lack of understanding.

        • mike morrison

          jeff, can you name, without looking them up, another Fed Chair name besides Greenspan or Bernanke????? There’s only been about 3 the last almost 40 years. And let me give you one for free: Paul Volker.

          The president can’t do ONE thing about the Fed. That is folly. I didn’t suppport TARP, either but that’s in the past. Cain said he won’t bail out anyone and that he supported TARP but not the way it passed out money. Quit attributing YOUR view of Cain as a paraphrase of his comments on TARP or the FED. Why not just quote him in the debates as he’s made himself very clear on these issues in the debates.

          What he’s got is a plan to get rid of the IRS, the 16th amendment, and ultimately transition to a national sales tax and get rid of ALL other taxes completely. He also knows how to ignite the economy and control spending.

          • Jeff Song

            I see you ignored my first point and mischaracterised my position on items I didn’t outline in detail.

            It doesn’t matter if Cain didn’t like the way Tarp was implemented or not. The point is, to support it in the first place shows his level of understanding of what is needed to fix the economy.

            Ron Paul’s choice for chair Fed would be Jim Grant. Paul Volker was a much better choice than Greenspan. Cains choice of Greenspan was in answer to the question of who would serve as a model for his choice as Fed chair. He didn’t qualify his choice of Greenspan, but instead praised his work.

            For those that want to see this crazy answer checkout this:

            His choice of Jim Grant would be on thing as president that he could do. The other is to press the issue with the people and the congress. The other thing would be to legalize competing currencies.

            Ron Paul’s goal is to get rid of the IRS too, but without adding a sales tax.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W3FMTBSVBSRY6R5HWJ4PWP5MCI Lacey

        You are right this is not a game…It’s not just the Establishment who would not care to have Cain. Not to disrespect him but I really don’t see any big ideas, he has no experience being Commander in Chief. IMHO I sense he will be relying too much on advisers, maybe that is why we have so many Zars in the WH today. I think it takes a lot of years to become the kind of leader our country demands at this time. We have already experienced this kind of inexperience In BO. There are good and decent people running for this office who do have the experience, who will meet I think more than the American people’s expectations. This idea of not having anyone who has served their country in a government position is just nonsense, not all who are running are incapable, corrupt politicians. Don’t listen to media as fact, look for your own answers, Seek and ye shall find!

    • Steven

      What?? I am shocked. Conservatives, you are killing yourselves! On the basis of one debate, in which he committed no gaffes, you jettison Cain? Man that’s sad. We can’t make it in this country, because people don’t understand what’s the most essential thing. The media has us over a barrel, choosing our candidates. C-Hip I am disappointed. I don’t know you, but I thought from your comments you were strong. I guess not.

    • John Browning

      More Coaching!?Really?! No human being can answer every question on every issue perfect every time people! Cain aint perfect and neither are all of the candidates we have to choose from. Dont let your opinion on a candidate be trivialized by hand picked mainstream media sound bytes! Look at tyhe big picture as to what this country needs! We already had a heavy handed war charging president in GW Bush. We now have Obama bowing away to other countries while the economy falls apart. Cain will fix the economy! Thats what we need at this time. Do not be disheartened by intentional gotcha journalism! I grand jury lying Bill Clinton can survive multiple marital infidelities & Monica’s stained dress in the white house. Herman Cain can survive this flup & the “accusations”. Stick with an economy game changer! CAIN 2012!

    • Anonymous

      Hip are you kidding me!? Like Mike said below, we don’t have time for another cycle to save this country!

      Remember Carter? We’ll get for more years but a zillion times worse.

  • Anonymous

    I might be the last one standing behind Mr. Cain, but I really didn’t think that was awful. One thing I have noticed, is that he takes some time to think through the question before giving an answer. He has been quite clear all along that being outside of government, he is not privy to all the intel, so he doesn’t have all of the info needed to make a decision. He was saying some of the things he would have considered before making that decision.

    I’m not going to jump off the Cain Train just yet.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed. I agree with Cain that we didn’t know who it was we were helping, and if we did, we helped hand Libya over to Islamists. Also, how can he answer those questions without having all of the intel, or even knowing if there was any intel? I think that basically Cain was trying to say, in a round about way, that it was an unfair question.

      Maybe he should have answered like Donald Rumsfeld might, with a “We know what we know and we don’t know what we don’t know. We also don’t know what we do know, so who’s to know? It’s unknowable.”

      I’m not seeing the train going off a cliff yet. I thought the clip was going to show him strangling a cat or something ;-)

      • Jeff Song

        It wasn’t the Libya thing that got me so much since mostly what he said I agreed with – he didn’t really have anything to say.

        What got me was his position that the federal government should allow public collective bargaining, and they won’t hijack the process because he doesn’t think they should. You give them collective bargaining, they will hijack the system.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think you have that right Jeff. It appears to me the only thing he didn’t get right is that he thought federal employers could collectively bargain now, which they can’t. What am I missing?

          • Jeff Song

            I went back and listened to him again on this, but he seems to want it both ways. He said that he supports collective bargaining on the federal level as long as it doesn’t create an undue burden. What does that mean to you? To me it would seem like he would allow it, but when they got out of hand he would cut back on the unions power.

            It seem as a bit of a non-answer to me.

      • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

        It wasn’t just that. It was the fact that it’s happened quite a few times before, although this was arguably the worst. Just the last straw.

        • Anonymous

          I respect your opinion regarding this, and I respect you too. Different things strike folks differently. Time will tell if anyone has jumped the gun or the shark here :-)

    • Anonymous

      A wise man once said: “Do you see someone who speaks in haste?
      There is more hope for a fool than for them.” [Prov 29:20]

      Cain is only doing what he’s been taught.

      • Anonymous

        Thank You.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome back.

  • Daumin Franks

    Rick Perry’s gaffe was much worse. Perry was merely trying to state one his own campaign promises. Something that was well known to him and well rehearsed.

    Cain was answering a cold question that he no idea was coming. He wasn’t prepared to give a proper answer and, unlike a skilled and experienced politician, did not know how to cleverly dodge the question.

    Not a big deal. Cain can learn this stuff.

  • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

    On the Lybia issue are you disappointed that he fumbles at the beginning trying to remember a talking point or are you dissappointed with his answer about the assessment of the facts? That answer to me was just fine. I don’t know but his actual answer with those questions made a lot of sense. Those are the questions we have no answer for today, so we have no idea who was helped in Lybia.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      I think the point is, Cain was in this interview and a few others very unprepared and lacked knowledge on certain topics. Sure could he learn? Yes, but from what I hear loud and clear the past year or 2 this country is in big trouble and I don’t think it would be wise to vote someone in that needs to learn as much as Herman does. Having said that, I don’t have anything against Cain and think he has some good idea’s but if I were advising him, I would tell him to clear up this sex scandle/allegations on a positive note and drop out afterwards. This way he leaves with a positive impression among people and he can come back down the road when he is more prepared.

      • mike morrison

        We don’t have time…Cain needs to be elected now. Obama had ZERO experience in anything and he’s killed plenty of terrorists. Do you think Cain would get any different advice from the CIA or our military leaders?

        Cain is the only conservative capable of winning now…Newt has more personal problems than Cain ever fantasized about! This is all being done to nominate Romney who is NOT a conservative. If Romney is our nominee, I’m staying home. I will NOT settle again with another “McLame”.

      • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

        No, I think the point is that sometimes things are blown out of proportions like in this case. I don’t care about the sex scandal at all, there’s no proof yet anyways. To the issues, he can’t have knowledge on everything, do you think he knows anything about nuclear weapons or meteorology or farming or energy? etc etc… The President will probably have to deal with all these areas, I don’t expect him to know everything. He will be there as a decision maker and idea proposer and commander in chief. The big question should be can I trust her or him to not be corrupt.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG7QND4SBQWUHLQPCII7H24ROM zaq

        I completely disagree with you, David. Cain is EXACTLY what DC needs. We have gotten so engrossed with political correctness and career politicians, we need to clean house in DC.

    • Anonymous

      Eh, I don’t give him that much leeway, edenjac. Even I could have answered that one with more clarity.

      Let me try:

      When you’ve got a madman slaughtering his own people, you can’t stand idly by and let it happen, but for us to get in there and actively support rebels we know nothing about? That’s madness. Also, for us to sit and wait for NATO to call the shots is something I wouldn’t stand for. Americans are leaders, not followers.

      We got involved with no clear idea of the outcome we were seeking. If we are to get involved in every country ruled by a maniacal dictator, we’ll be sending troops all over the world with no end in sight. If we aim to get rid of those dictators, we’ll find ourselves in never-ending occupations far and wide.

      So, I don’t criticize the President for acting. I criticize him for being slow, unclear, late to the party, and keeping a Nobel Peace Prize while doing it.

      • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

        but then you’re just focusing on the fumbling instead of the actual answer. Like somebody said here somewhere in the board, all theses guys & gal running are not perfect. He didn’t answer smoothly but his thought process was correct, at least to me on the issue of Lybia.

        • Anonymous

          Fair enough. Though I don’t think he had much of an answer for Libya. ie, I might have done the same, but with more intel in advance. Not much of an answer.

          Though I am still favorable toward him as opposed to Obama or Romney anyway. Not a resounding enendorsement, I know.

      • Anonymous

        If we don’t get rid of Zero we won’t have to travel far to confront a maniacal dictator.

        • Anonymous

          Zing :-)

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    This hurts. Good golly Mr. Cain, what is that? I could say a lot but I won’t. I don’t envy the American voters, I mean I wish I could vote too, but it just gets harder and harder to find the right candidates. I know no one is perfect, but Cain I still love the guy- but unless he gets some serious coaching, he’s not going to make it.

    I was in a yucky mood already- so this did not help.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t despair neighbor, there is still plenty of time for all the others to show their true colors. Once they do, Cain will be shown to be the one only True Conservative!

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        I agree, and I also watched it again and thought more about my gut feeling about him. Posted later.

  • mike morrison

    I’m not sure what you guys are complaining about on the Libya issue??? His answers were very thoughtful and not knee-jerk…Al Qaeda is flying their flag in Libya right now in the capital! Did Obama know that’s who he was supporting against Qaddafi??

    • http://twitter.com/jmw242 jmw24

      The question was very vague and very general. He asked, “Did you agree or disagree with how Obama handled the Libya situation.” Which part? The killing of Qaddafi, the rise of the revolution, the rebel attacks? Which part? I don’t ever understand how ANY of these candidates can answer some of these questions much less make promises before getting into office when there is no way for them to have all of the information. I don’t believe they have the level of clearance and access to the same info as the president. So how can they answer these questions “correctly”. This is where I agree with Cain. He often says, “I don’t have access to all of the information so I can’t say for sure”. I don’t see that as a cop out. To me that is a very legitimate answer and common sense which you don’t see very much of in politics these days.

      • Anonymous

        Very Well Said jmw!!!!!! Thank you.

      • Anonymous

        I completely agree with you!! That question isn’t even possible to answer!

      • Anonymous

        I could not have said it any better…I’m sick of the media trying to confuse the candidates with their out landish questions, and am VERY proud of Cain with his honesty in these matters. Come on media, move on!!!! Way to go jmw24!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Very disappointed. I have no more candidates.

    BS
    DTOM

    • Anonymous

      Who ever said Cain was finished!?

  • B-Funk

    I’m not sold on anyone yet- except sold against Romney- but I have to go back to the Perry misstep. Rush told us that Perry’s mistake is just an example of why we have this nomination process. In my honest opinion, one misstep is not a big deal. When it becomes a pattern, that’s a problem, whether it’s Perry or Cain, or anyone else. I don’t think it’s right to jump ship on someone just because they have a couple bad debates or a misstep here and there. We’re trying to elect conservatives, not career politicians. If a candidate’s issues bother you, then jump ship. If you’re jumping ship because they make gaffs, you have to remember these are human beings, not the mind-numbed political robots we’ve had in the past. Any one of these people can beat Obama. We’ve definitely had better from Cain, but he’s not out of the race yet, so I’m going to wait until the end before I make a hard decision on him. Newt might not be a good choice either, but I truly disagree with Cain on collective bargaining, and the Libya thing is a big mistake, I grant you.

  • deo heerai

    Agree with you on the first issue of collective bargaining but think you are grossly overstating the second issue of libya i see a man clarifying in his mind what exactly he is being asked because the question was broad and fuzzy and he did not want to give a flippant answer still the first answer gives me great pause for thought and as everyone knows I support Cain

  • joel Fiser

    Cain’s answer on the Libya war is the correct answer. The problem with the Libya War was determining who were / are the so-called “rebels” we were backing? That’s exactly what he said.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Hahn/100002186278912 Rich Hahn

      No, the question was what vital American interest was at stake? And the answer is none!

      • joel Fiser

        Getting rid of Ghaddafi is in America’s interest… IF… the subsequent leaders were pro-American. They are not. That’s the problem.

      • Anonymous

        Wrong…it’s {{{Israel}}} every time. Anything near Israel that can be taken by the antisemitic is of our utmost interest. Period!

        Because guess who will get Libya. The Muslin Brotherhood who now have Egypt in their grip.

  • mike morrison

    Sorry, this doesn’t rise to the level of “throw him under the bus” for me…guess who else thought federal unions had collective bargaining rights: President Obama. Guess who blocked unions from having this right? Carter.

    Relax…we’re voting for ideas, not someone who can answer every possible question accurately 100% of the time. If that were the case we should just have spelling bee’s and Jeopardy competitions to choose our president.

    I don’t hear anyone complaining about Newt’s mistakes Saturday night in the debate, or Romney’s, or Perry’s, and they all made some big ones in their “facts”.

    Cain is the only conservative who has as part of his platform to ditch the 16th amendment and get rid of the IRS. Focus, folks. I don’t want another professional politician–you’ve seen where that has gotten us. We’re being herded by the media to Romney and Romney is Obama only on a slower trajectory.

    • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

      Relax…

      See my “Dittos Mike” in your reply to Dan, above.

      As you said –

      >> “Relax… we’re voting for ideas, not someone who can answer every possible question accurately 100% of the time.”

      Cain is for ditching the 16th amendment and the IRS… “let’s roll” with hurrah Cain.

      Art

  • Anonymous

    BFD! Anybody but the marxist sob obama:-)

    • Anonymous

      Now that’s 40 grit paper right there craft….lol

  • joel Fiser

    The collective bargaining answer is the wrong answer. Public Union collective bargaining should not be allowed.

    But do we know what the other candidates’ policy is? What’s Romney’s policy on Collective Bargaining? Newt’s?

    • mike morrison

      President Obama back in February claimed federal unions have the right to collective bargain…this is such a non-starter against Cain.

      Please, Scoop, quit doing the bidding of the GOP Establishment…they want Cain out and Newt out…their candidate is Romney because he is NOT A CONSERVATIVE. Newt has more personal issues than Cain by a million miles. You think they’re not waiting to pounce on Newt after they derail Cain’s campaign???

      • Anonymous

        Exactly right!

      • Anonymous

        Well said Mike

  • Anonymous

    The clips are very telling about how Cain is still not on top of the issues and lacks eloquence when tricked into articulating sentences outside of his rehearsed sound bites.
    His instincts may be right, but that deer-in-the-headlights looks will be exploited against him with full brutality . He should learn how NOT to exhibit that look on his face .

    • Anonymous

      OO

  • Anonymous

    I still like Cain, but just compare his responses to any from Allen West (whom I was just watching on the previous post on this site.) There is a man who knows what he’s talking about, knows all the key players, the historical context, the political ramifications, and responds with confidence.

    Cain wasn’t even sure where Libya was on a map at the outset of this conversation. He’s a great speaker when he’s on the topics he knows. Get him off anywhere outside that and he stumbles.

    • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

      I wonder what Allen West’s economic growth plan will be? The guy doesn’t know everything, he will need help in other areas. That said, looking forward to have him as President someday : )

    • Josh

      Is Cain on the House Armed Services Committee and does he receive each intelligence update? I didn’t think they gave that type of clearance to civilians. Point is that he deferred because he did not know, rather than just blame Obama.

  • Anonymous

    That was painful to say the least, no amount of on the job training, no amount of listening to his generals, and no amount of apples and oranges can make up for not being able to answer a basic, current foreign policy issue. This is a result of a very fine person trying to get elected to a position he is clearly not cut out for.

    • Josh

      Hindsight is 20/20. Would any conservative let the flag of Al Queda fly in Libya? Nope. Bomb the courthouse. We already have planes over there. But could YOU make the decision based on your limited knowledge to overthrow the dictatorship right then? Why did they go in right now? Why couldn’t they wait another month, year, etc.? It is not a basic issue at all. Cain did not want to give a basic answer, and I respect him for that.

      • Anonymous

        You are right, I could not make that decision, nor raise your taxes, regulate your life, or impact you or your families future. I have an opinion, state it, try and make it respectable and try to make sense of the overall campaign.

    • Scott Cainiac

      What is The Obama Doctrine as it pertains to foreign policy?

      • Anonymous

        What is The Obama Doctrine as it pertains to foreign policy?
        ——
        Muzzie muzzie bros bros
        and
        If it hurts America, DO IT

      • Anonymous

        To bow to our enemies, to disrespect our allies and to confuse you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG7QND4SBQWUHLQPCII7H24ROM zaq

    You guys at Right Scoop are full of yourselves. There ARE federal unions, and the freaking reporter was trying to be misleading…..

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    The USA’s largest independent federal sector union, representing employees of the Treasury Department and various federal agencies.f. The United States Postal Service IS unionized. This whole piece is a

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was just about to make a comment on that topic, but you saved me the time. Mr. Cain was right, again!

    • Anonymous

      Of course they have unions, the gotcha part was whether they were able to collectively bargain. Federal employees can’t do that, at least I don’t think they can :-)

      They don’t need to collectively bargain, they just automatically get twice as much as their private counterparts. People have to learn sometimes. Cain learned something today. The difference beween a union and a union which bargains collectively.

      • Anonymous

        Over 500,00 United States Postal Service Employees have been collectively bargaining for wages, benefits and working condition for over 40 years. Unbelievable, the USPS management represents the American rate payer but gets the same or better increase as they give to the unions!

        Now the commie inspired USPS unions blatantly by advertising on FOX News urging us to “Help the USPS by contacting your congressmen to prevent lay-offs, etc.” These are the Unions who’ve been exploiting the Postal Service and its customers for multiple decades. Now they want the American public to save the Postal Service. Of course they do. There’s still life on the old USPS.

        The Postal Union’s current attitude toward saving the Postal Service reminds me of the story about the traveling salesman who stops to fix a flat on a country road and looks across the fence to see a three legged pig being hand-washed by the farmer.

        Hey!” the salesman calls, “What happened to your pig?”

        The farmer reels off a litany of occasions when that pig had saved the lives of various members of the farmer’s family including saving the farmer’s young son from drowning.

        So,” the salesman asks. “How’d the pig lose a leg?”

        The farmer looks up at the city-slicker with a sarcastic grin, “When you’ve got a pig as smart as this one, you don’t eat him all at once.

        Check the record if you like but, for the last 40 years, every time the Unions got a raise in pay or an increase in benefits, USPS Management got the same or better. Every single contract!

        • Anonymous

          USPS is not a Federal Agency sir. USPS employees are not federal employees either. Your point is then moot, but you said it quite well :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-L-Stokes-Stanford/699686011 Michelle L. Stokes-Stanford

    I think Mr. Cain handled the question well. He is just a regular person, which beats a politician anyday, so he has to find out things from those who are close to the situation. It is very possible that the new regime is worse than Quaddafi by the accounts I have heard. We did need to know more about the resistance movement before jumping in with both feet! We may regret not having someone like Cain in the big chair soon, because of the refusal of the current administration to check things out before acting. If you choose to look for a more establishment candidate, that is your choice. I personally think it is the wrong choice, though.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Don’t know about this RightScoop. I think you’re getting cold feet like everyone else because of these allegations. And if you are, fair enough. My confidence in Cain has been rocked not by the allegations but on certain aspects of his handling of it.

    As to these clips, I think you’re forgetting, Scoop, that unlike the rest of the candidates, Cain is not a career politician. He has been a top businessman, a mathematician (literally, working in rocket science) and an insider within the Fed. As much as I dislike the latter segment of his career, he has proven his competency to great extents over and over in his life. Cain has not had years dealing with Unions, legislation, foreign policy. He is the most down to earth candidate we’ve got, having worked his way from the bottom in the real world to the very top of it. If the rest were making such mistakes as seen in the above clips, then you shoudl worry (i.e. Rick Perry) But Herman? Give him a break. I’m with Daumin Franks above.

    The Unions question… so what? Politics this days is about looking the part and Cain and the rest of the candidates, as have many before him, have been falling for this trap, going from state to state dishing out their campaign sound bites as oppose to focusing on gathering as much information as possible about every single messed up policy coming out of the White House. If one candidate doesn’t grasp entirely the complete dimensions of one issue, this is not a disaster!… Especially when that candidate has never been near the halls of political power in his life and has only been forced to put his name forward as a result of the frightful future that looms over his nation.

    As to Libya, I hold the same view as Cain in the clip. And that view was put forward as clear as he could have put it: He doesn’t know all of the factors involved in the president’s decision to help with Libya, therefore he can’t give a clear cut yes or no answer as to the issue. The reason why his answer might have looked so bad to us conservatives, is because he didn’t resort to a clear black and white attitude. And furthermore, he didn’t do what is normally expected of conservatives running for president when things aren’t clear cut, just blame the democrat in office blindly.

    Again, I think people are just backing off from Cain because he seems like damaged goods with all these sexual allegations flying around… but we’re too afraid to say it as we don’t want to seem like we buy what are probably lies from the left , and yet don’t want to be embarassed if it turns out some of it is true.

    I stand by Cain. I just hope God grants him more courage and uncommon integrity.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG7QND4SBQWUHLQPCII7H24ROM zaq

    Secondly, Cain did appear tired on the Libya video. However, you have chosen to be just as bad as the liberal media. While I acknowledge that it took a moment to get his bearings, he answered correctly.

    Look….Libya is more complex than even the reporter acknowledges. The reason they went in to Libya is that a large portion of Europe’s oil comes from Libya (don’t believe me….look it up). The European’s recognized the problem, and chose to act. But, they have dramatically scaled back their military, and chose to commit resources as NATO. Since the US is a part of NATO, the US was put in a rock or a hard place. Either commit resources or loose support for Afghanistan, etc.

    Cain is ABSOLUTELY right to think over this “seemingly easy” question. It is not. Now you want to throw Cain under the bus for actually THINKING. That’s absurd.

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t made my choice yet but because I think the same – Libya is too complex a situation for a simple response – I will NOT throw Cain under the bus!

      However, I don’t agree with his statement about public unions having the same collective bargaining rights as the private sector because the Bargainee (taxpayer) is not at the table – just the Bargainer and a panel/group/judge/etc of some sort is present.

  • Mike Lee

    It’s Newt Or Mitt, kids. My money is on 4 more years of the marxist. Unbelievable, but true. if you’d had told me that a sitting potus would even have a CHANCE of being re-elected w/ unemployment as high as it is, with the economy on life support, and the deficit and debt raking up trillions….I would not have believed it.

    • Anonymous

      And you believe a sitting marxist will??????????????

      Please, please Heavenly Father, help our country. 2 Chr. 7:14

  • Anonymous

    As she did when Rick Perry started to stumble in the debate, my wife cringed and literally flushed as we watched Mr.Cain’s display of discomfort during the Libya video.

    She added: “When I listen to Herman Cain, I feel like those people who go to the Long Island Medium or John Edward to hear from their departed loved one, kind of like wanting very badly to believe but having to fill in some of the blanks.”

    I often believe I understand what she is talking about. Have we all simply been trying to channel a true, Black conservative? Will our allies and detractors be as generous to Mr. Cain should he be elected President?

    • Anonymous

      Just a true conservative. I don’t care what color his or her skin is. I really just don’t understand why it became so difficult to espouse Conservative Principles for Mr. Cain. He just lost his focus with all the Allred nonsense and I’m not sure he can come back. I have a really hard time believing he didn’t understand the problems with Public Sector Unions. I mean, really? Does he really not understand what Wisconsin was about? Sigh… We’re all entitled a bad day, but I’m not sure he can get this thing outta the ditch. We’ll see.

    • Anonymous

      Hmmm… If I’m been honest, it helps that Cain is black as it snuffs out the left’s argument of a racist right. However, please don’t be absurd! No, we have not simply been trying to channel a “true, black conservative.” Cain is a true conservative and thats that. No, he has not been a career politician like the rest but he is a true conservative with great policy ideas who could potentially make a great president.

      • Anonymous

        Following this same train of thought, the Democratic Party put a black man in the presidency in 2008, therefore, the Democratic Party is not racist. I don’t agree with that. The Democratic party has been a racist organization for about 300 years. Like any racist, it survives by denial and points to its black “friends” as a defense.

        Secondly. I think that if you poll the Right Scoop Cain supporters, you’d get a unified response to the question:

        “Does it matter what color skin the next President of the United States has?”

        Lastly, Mr. Cain has stated on several occasions that he will bring himself up to speed on foreign affairs. The national Foreign Affairs debate was held 2 days ago. Wouldn’t you have expected a stronger response from Mr. cain on a question as simple as, “Do you agree with President Obama on Libya?” Admittedly it was a set up question. I expected him to use Newt’s response to the Saturday moderator when he just answered, “No.”

        Maybe Cain’s been temporarily knocked off his stride by stress or the unmitigated pounding he’s taken on the harassment issues, but the pressure he can expect as President will be infinitely greater and more personal.

        • Anonymous

          On your first point, I agree: Very sad state of affairs indeed.

          On your second point: Easy. I agree again. That “unified response” would be “Heck NO, it does not matter what color skin the next POTUS is!” And to suggest they would answer otherwise is an unwarranted slight on their integrity.

          On your last point, HERMAN CAIN is HERMAN CAIN… NOT Newt Gingrich! He attempted to engage properly and intelligently with the question and not just offer an easy, populist answer such as career politicians like Newt are all too well trained in doing: “Yes, I disagree with Obama, so vote for me!” If Obama said the sky was blue, and Newt was asked if he agreed with the president, he’d probably give the same response as he did with the Libya answer: “No I disagree with Obama.” If you can’t see the Cain’s answer for what it was: balanced and as thought-through as possible considering the circumstances, then thats your individual problem I’m afraid.

          And on your final statement/point, the pressure he faces now is a different kind of pressure to what he will face as president. The pressure now is different in that he has to be seen as not running away from the allegations and bat them away effectively in order to win the white house at all. When in the white house, he’s in and can just outright ignore foolish, baseless and clearly mallicious allegations. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure he’ll have better information as POTUS in order to be able to answer the sort of questions as those put to him above, in more detailed and cohesive manner.

          Now something tells me you won’t agree with anything I’ve just said. Lol. All the same, fire away my friend.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with you on your fist two points. (lol)

            Thanks for engaging UN. Together we will find the right man and we will put that man in the white house for eight years!

            • Anonymous

              Can’t vote. I’m British. I just love you guys, is why I get involved. But most assuredly, I pray you do find the right man. Pray for us, your cousins across the Atlantic, too… Believe me, things are a lot stranger here.

              • Anonymous

            • Anonymous

              … Now you know two things about Mr “unidentifiable”. Darn it. Might need to change my profile name. LOL ;)

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                Do you miss Margaret Thatcher as much as I do?

                • Anonymous

                  Lol. Of course I miss the Iron Lady. Who doesn’t? But she did make some almost unforgiveable mistakes herself… ALMOST unforgiveable, NOT COMPLETELY unforgiveable. :-)

              • Anonymous

                I actually know 3 things:
                1. You love liberty.
                2. This country is less without you.
                3. Changing your screen name will only serve to make you more identifiable.

                • Anonymous

                  You almost forgot the third one didn’t you? Lol. Thank You. I’m only kidding of course: Mr “unidentifiable” remains Mr “unidentifiable.” Thanks for the first two sentiments; the feeling is mutual my friend. Good night and God Bless.

  • Anonymous

    Interviewer: “Do you agree with Obama on Libya?”

    Cain: “Specifically, what are you asking me did I agree of disagree with Obama?”

    Reasonable.

    Cain weakness is that he answers questions directly. Notice, even, how he often repeats the question to make sure he is answering precisely. The question was vague, and Cain has a hard time handling that.

    On an earlier post on this website, I commented on Cain’s weak handling during the Lincoln-Douglas debate of a question about “Defined Benefits” vs. “Premium Support”. Someone responded that the question was “wonkish”. I think that the above interview was “wonkish”.

  • Anonymous

    Guys I think Scoop has been fraped! Somebody on the left has hacked into his admin and carried out this strange hit on Cain! Only reasonable explanation.

    Give Cain the White House and watch him make informed decisions then! Don’t pounce on him for not answering a question in the most eloquent manner. Obama was eloquent… but he said nothing! Cain has spoken more substance in the above two clips than Obama has done during his entire political career for crying out loud. As I always urge, lets have some perspective people!

    • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

      no, I think he was just influenced by Michelle Malkin’s reaction to this.
      On the Lybia thing they focused on the fumble instead of the answer.

      On collective bargaining, I will like Mr. Cain to expand why he believes public employees should be allowed to bargain collectively on wages and other benefits as long as it does not create an undue burden on taxpayers. THis thought process seems very familiar to the opportunity zones idea, so I would want to figure out his thinking on this. On the Opportunity zones plan he has allowed all groups within the community to merge to compete for a tax break.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    Perry 2012

    • Anonymous

      Leme guess, you’re an illegal immigrant from Mexico…?

      • Anonymous

        No dummy, looks like you don’t get it.

        The feds mandate you can’t deport them, have to give them healtcare, treat them in the e-rooms, and so what do you do?

        The state of TX made the decision to education them. I don’t agree with it, but I understand it. So, you’d don’t like this issue and the vaccination issue…and?

        For the love of God don’t tell me a line about Willard the spineless wonder.

    • Anonymous

      … If you’re not (and you probably aren’t) apologies for being unduly facetious. But Perry 2012 is a No-can-do, when we’ve got Cain, Santorum, Bachman and Newt (in order of preference) surely?

      • Anonymous

        Ah, its called cash. Bachman and Santorum are likely out after Iowa. Everything depends on how Perry does in Iowa and HOW/IF votes shift from Cain/Newt/Perry from now till then. We don’t know yet.

        If Perry does the same as Saturday or better on the next debate, his support will increase.

  • http://twitter.com/mtndew2781 Christopher Anderson

    You people deserve Obama. I mean, if you’re looking for a smooth talker, with quick answers, fine… Keep digging America into a grave. I thought we were looking for a real problem solver. Someone who can look at a set of facts and make decisions. OMG a guy who’s traveling and speaking non stop has a brain fart on a topic that isn’t his strong point… shocking… If this changes your opinion of Cain then you never really supported Cain, you just were against the other guys. Ridiculous. We’re getting into amateur hour with all the nitpicking of these candidates. Same goes for Perry’s oops moment. Oh gosh he had a memory lapse, BIG DEAL.

    • Anonymous

      Preach!

      • Anonymous

        Amen!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chip-Jones/100001478954738 Chip Jones

    WHOA…back up a bit here. Let’s not get our panties in a bunch, guys. Let’s look critically at what Mr. Cain said about Libya and not at HOW he said it. What you are seeing as a bad answer was the process of arriving at PRECISION. Being precise is often painful, and the process of getting there is rarely crisp or comfortable. But where has being imprecise gotten us? What I hear Mr. Cain saying is that the process of making the decisions we made were imprecise. He was answering, not about the outcome, but about the process. AND, he’s correct. We (read that President Obama) jumped into a fray begun by NATO/Europe, and led by Italy. His decision was to “lead from behind”. Now, meaning NO disrespect for my Italian friends, but let’s get serious here. What was the last war truly WON by Italy? AND, we were “behind”? Do you think for a moment we only heard about it at the last minute? For cryin’ out loud, we almost financially OWN NATO, since we fund most of it.

    What Mr. Cain is saying is that the process of deciding how, when and where to get in had to be better thought out. We had Special Forces on the ground. we could have SHAPED the leadership of the opposition and led it to victory. Instead, we empowered the worst military government in the history of the modern world, a country on the verge of complete bankruptcy, to rush, willy nilly, into a war, the outcome of which is an opposition government, at best made up partially of members of the Muslim Brotherhood, and at worst, Al Qaeda.

    To say that seeing this as a whole, without pulling out these details and analyzing them, is the correct way to answer is the recipe for a world run by people who would have our children die. RS is just plain wrong on this one.

    • Anonymous

      Way to go Chip. That’s how I saw it.

      Did he give a haphazard answer RS? No. He gave it thought & consideration. Look, the man realizes that every word spoken will be scrutinized.

  • Steven

    Bye Scoop. This is completely overblown and no, it’s not worst than Perry’s gaffe by a long shot, no matter how hard Perry fans want it to be so. And yes, it’s Perry fans like Scoop that are nitpicking Cain. Cain in the last video simply said that he would have accessed the opposition better and would have withheld his decision based on who would replace Gaddafi. That Cain doesn’t pretend to know everything, something Perry fans should appreciate, is held against him is ridiculous. No presidential candidate knows everything, no matter how hard they try to pretend they do. Again, if you are waiting to support a candidate based on how glowing the media portrays that candidate then you will wind up with Jon Huntsman as the nominee!

    As to the first video, so the hell what he didn’t know federal employees couldn’t collectively bargain! I would bet 95% of GOP primary voters didn’t know that either. And besides, what does it matter? Cain is still 9-9-9, still going to cut 10% across the board and then another 10%, still will balance the budget, still will advocate for energy independence, etc…Scoop you blew this out of proportion. But it’s your site and your right. But I knew you were never for Cain. You just liked the traffic Cain supporters brought to your site.

    But aside from being personal, I support Cain because we need to send a message to the Washington elite that the corrupt politics as usual comes to an end in 2012! Herman Cain is the ultimate outsider, not a pretend outsider, but the real deal. I trust Cain, because his instincts are RIGHT and he understands the nation is in peril. I trust Cain because he is real and not a b.s. artist like Gingrich, Romney and Obama. They pretend to know everything, but they don’t know anything about leading. Cain can lead and has led and been very successful. He has faced adversity and overcome and now is unabashed and unafraid to carry the Tea Party banner! As long as Mr. Cain is putting it all on the line in this campaign for conservative Tea Party principles against the hordes on the Left and the Establishment, I will not cast him aside because some editorial board doesn’t like him! I will stand with Cain! Cain is able! Cain 2012!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      Steven, why can’t a voter change his/her opinion on who they’re going to support? It’s not like anyone is forcing you to follow along or see things the way he/she does. While Cain has some strong supporters like yourself, the probability of Cain being elected is low as it takes a lot more than his current strong supporters and with the scandle regardless if you think its a big deal or not the rest of the voters do, so thats something you have to take into consideration. Strong supporters are always the last to leave, but thats not nearly as important as keeping and gaining the average voter out there.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll agree with most of what you said… but cut The Scoop some slack. I doubt he’s that disingenuous. Might have made a mistake here, but everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt once in a while… EVEN the odd faceless internet blogger. Lol.

    • poljunkie

      I disagree with you re Gov Perrys debate problem vs Mr. Cain.
      In my view Perry had a brain freeze and we’ve all experienced them (if not, when you get to be my age 51 you will. )
      Today, Mr. Cain showed he lacked depth, and squirmed and then went back to boilerplate padding.

      I asked my 23 year old son the same Libya question and he was able to answer, unresearched with out any fumbling.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you, Perry is my guy and after that Cain. If no conservative is the nominee, I stay home.

        • Anonymous

          Oh that’s just great!

          Then you’ll have no right ever to complain about Obama again. Just sayin’.

          • Anonymous

            You’re one of these “as long as they have an (R) by there name, it’s cool” people, aren’t you?

            Wake up! If Romney is president, you’d have Boehner at the helm in one house and McConnell in the other. Sorry, the GOP brand would mean NOTHING at that point. Do you think any fundamental changes will take place? A: NO

            Romney will not support flat taxes, push for Constitutional Amendments (WITH SPENDING CAPS) to Balance the Budget, will not go after EPA regulations, support 2nd amendment rights, etc, etc, etc, etc…these have economic implications.

            I’m not settling this election. IF our side loses, it is because we didn’t nominate a Conservative. IF that happens, we sure better be fighting like hell to run the government without obama, and pressure Congress with the full weight of the people to stop obama with supermajority votes.

            So, its just easier not to nominate Willard, hes a f*cking loser and is the weakest of all candidates. Sorry Romney-bots when the debates and the campaign is over, you wake up with Mitt Romney and that ain’t pretty.

            • Anonymous

              Political realities just crush the hearts of perfectionists like you I guess. Well then… good luck with that trying to stop a super majority after the fact. You can’t escape the fact that staying home on election night is perhaps one of the most irresponsible, not to mention childish, acts imaginable. Sorry my friend, you will be the one to blame with the resulting mess of a second Obama admin. I’d vote for a potted plant over Obama.

              Somehow you seem to think I don’t want a conservative a nominee. Can’t imagine how you came to that conclusion, other than for the fact of me challenging your aforementioned act of childishness where you would rather sulk at home on election night. Sorry… that’s even less of a winning strategy than voting for Romney.

              • Anonymous

                No, I’m not a perfectionist, I’m a realist. It is worse that a phony like Romney wins.

                I won’t be sulking, I’ll be at home watching All in the Family reruns. You destroy the country with the douchbag after a disaster named obama was elected. I say galvanize the movement.

                Romney is liked by 18-25% of the electorate, that means he’s not liked and may not even win.

                • Anonymous

                  I’ll never understand how ushering in a second Obama term is being realistic. But if that’s your idea of being a realist, we can only hope and pray that America has only a handful of your brand of “realist” in its ranks.

                  P.S. All in the Family eh! You mean that “All in the Family” produced by that big Hollywood Lib Norman Jewison. If you’ve grown up absorbing the messages inculcated by that show… no wonder you are staying home election night! Enjoy your reruns… because you’ll be getting plenty of reruns of Obama if you get your way.

                • Anonymous

                  Idiot: if you water down the GOP into meaning and standing for nothing, ie: the Eric Cantors, John Boehners, and Mitch McConnells what does the GOP stand for?

                  Tax decreases-nope, we don’t do that. Spending cuts?-nope, don’t stand for that. Has leadership attacked obama?

                  Have they had the balls and the guts to go after obama for what he’s done to balance of power, fast and furious, fighting for constitutional amendment to cap spending WITH TEETH? Nope.

                  What we have, what you are proposing, is another John McCain WITHOUT the military service, in fact Romney dodged the draft, so we have a man that will say ANYTHING, do ANYTHING to get elected. What do you think he will do in office?

                  Sorry, it is pathetic that people are listening to ANYTHING Romney has to say.

                • Anonymous

                  you don’t know a thing about Romney, or the republican leadership… you’re drinking the purist kool-aid. Regan would’ve been too left for you. you’d rather have a pure .0001% that stands for every issue exactly the same, than a 55-60% majority with the same fundamental principles but minor differences of opinions on certain controversial issues… they’ll get tax reform done, they’ll cut spending, they’ll get a balanced budget amendment when they have the chance. we have no kind of chance to get any of that if we just stay home because Romney used to be in favor of abortion, or he passed Romney care when he was governor of massachusetts… wake up, he’s changed positions… it’s like you don’t want people to agree with you. “well you didn’t agree with me from the beginning so you’re not a “”””””REEEAL”””””” conservative.” that’s garbage. he’s seen the light, he’s completely on our side now, he can lead the country back in the right direction. what’s your problem?

                • Anonymous

                  Dude, you are a moron. The record speaks for itself.

                  Only Romney-bots support his double-talk nonsense. Even people who are on the “anybody but obama” bandwagon (which I am not), don’t even believe in Romney or like him, they just hate obama.

                  My problem is the man lacks principals and will say and do anything to get elected.

                • Anonymous

                  I guess people you don’t agree with are idiots, and that they should stay home on election day like you. Meanwhile…real idiocy is another 4 yrs of Obama.

                  I think you suffer from a comprehension problem. You assume that if voters are stuck with a Romney at the end of the primaries that they must have voted for him at the beginning. Now listen very carefully… focus and pay attention! In a perfect world everything would be in our hands to control.

                  I am not a Romney supporter!… Repeat… I am not a Romney supporter! If I could wave a magic wand there would be a real conservative in the WH. Got that. Are you following so far?

                  Now then… I am only one of millions of voters! (I am being hypothetical here… because I am Canadian.. If I could vote in the US I would, but I can’t). And as only one of millions you, M_J_S, or I are stuck with the outcome of the democratic process. I don’t like it and neither do you. As frustrating as that is, it is the reality. Got that! You with me so far?

                  As detestable as a RINO is… like a McCain or a Romney (God help us if Romney is the nominee), there is no perfect world. Why… because the default political/cultural philosophy in America today is leftist/progressive/liberalism. It has infected the conservative ranks almost as pervasively as the culture at large. That’s why there is contamination in the Republican party. Are you still with me? To overcome this reality will take a lot more than a simple election, even if a real conservatives are elected in all three levels of government. The solution to this cultural liberalism is a WHOLE other discussion.

                  Now…given those realities… and yes they are the realities, in the real world uncomfortable choices MUST be made. If you hold your nose for a Romney, at least you have some leverage to exert conservative influence on him. If you go the route you advocate… you are guaranteed to destroy America forever under another term with Obama. The lesser evil buys precious time to help change the culture, or cushion the fall. Neither option is good, but one is much worse.

                  Now my friend, take a chill pill, check your anger at the door and save the name calling for daycare.

                • Anonymous

                  LOL…I call it like I see it, sucka, if you can’t handle, go back to mama

                • Anonymous

                  Yup.. you’re seeing something… that’s for sure. Enjoy four more years of your President Zero there cupcake.

                • Anonymous

                  Right, flapjack. Go back to serving burgers and reading romance novels.

                • Anonymous

                  Bill Clinton loved burgers, and I love ‘em too. But romance novels! I didn’t know you knew about my secret pass time. Damn! You’re good!

                  Have a nice day there cupcake.

                • Anonymous

                  No problem sweet tits!

                • Anonymous

                  Jewison? Really making conservatives look good there buddy.

                • Anonymous

                  Sorry.. my bad… thanks for the correction… have trouble keeping my hollywood libs straight… I mistakenly thought Jewison founded People for the American Way… and I always associated All in the Family with that organization. Apologies to Jewison (sort of) That should have been Norman Lear. Jewison’s also your run of the mill hollywood lib. Same diff however.

                  A lib can get a fact wrong and its… aw.. isn’t that sweet. A conservative does it and it’s… GET him! Conservatives correct it… libs… let’s move on folks… nothing to see here.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve said it before… Cain is weak on FP, and all the major conflicts in which American is involved should have been in his “fast track to knowledge” file by now. So I’m truly disappointed in him.

        However, this is not the iceberg many seem to think it is… but time is running out. He needs to consult with Bolton. So I’m not at all about to abandon him. Cain, for all his weaknesses, is THEE man for America at this time… with Newt as VP… the anchor of gravitas to Cain’s gut instincts. I’ll perhaps explain why he is THEE man in another post.

        And on a side note… ever notice how much scrutiny Romney IS NOT getting. Coincidence? I think not.

        • poljunkie

          Hy husband said that on OReilly the other day, Gov Perry said he was consulting with John Bolton.

          I concur about Romney.

      • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac

        what was your son’s answer poljunkie?

        • poljunkie

          His question back to me was, are we going to continue being the Worlds police, even if we are not threatened?

          He cited that Khadafy was removed from the “terror” list during the Bush administration. 2004? We (The United States restored diplomatic relations with Libya at that time) He remembered an interview when the UN / Remember the tool, Hans Blix .
          He said he remembered reading that officials were allowed to tour the unfinished nuclear facility in the late 2000’s and also during that time Condie Rice as a Rep of the Bush admin went to see him and demanded that he continue to pay the final dollar amounts of the Lockerbie air bombing, which he agreed.

          But even with the rest of my sons which my eyes glazed over at….his most compelling points that I remember from his answer are:

          We had to borrow 400 million dollars from China to pay for the Libya invasion…AND for what?
          And if we were going to choose countries to invade he would have picked Iran. We have much more to gain by taking Iran down a few pegs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dontailor Don Tailor

    Cain is a charismatic and energetic motivator. He is a true conservative. Cain has energized this primary process. In many ways he has defined the narrative. We have to be very appreciative of that.

    Now, to be President, that’s a different story. I think he has proven that he is not up to the job.

    I think Newt deserves a serious look. I think he is conservative enough to be what we want. Not so Romney. Just that we would have to demand from him through sites like this and talk radio to stay on track.

  • Josh

    Oh, TRS. Be careful that you take away the feeling of the video (uncomfortable) and not the substance. Here you have two reporters who are giving Cain some tough questions and really trying to corner him on the Libya situation.

    His collective bargaining stance? Do not agree with. Especially for public sector jobs. My choice would be to eliminate as many of those jobs as possible and still maintain a working government.

    His Libya stance? I 100% support. What is wrong with a guy standing by his principles and methodology? How many agreed that George Bush should have went in to get the WMDs at the time, then backpedaled? He was critical that Obama may not have had all the information? He was and always has been adamant about the fact that only the CIC has the intel to make those decisions. We only know what the media tells us. To make a judgement call on that is presumptuous at best. He stated clearly at the end that all of these media outlets want a yes or no answer and that he has no way of answering them without knowing ALL the facts.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe that public employees have the right to unionize. When they negotiate for higher wages who are they negotiating with? Politicians simply promise the world for votes-especially democrats. And the dems know that more union members mean more campaign loot because the union bosses are paying the dem politicians off with the union dues. It really comes down to money laundering by the democrats and the money is coming from we the tax payers. It is time to stop supporting this practice and the politicians who support it.

  • http://www.noneedforastinkingwebsite.com dow daytrader

    please please don’t crash and burn 9-9-9 !!! I want my tax cut!! Send “Herb” to a Palin re-edukashun camp for two weeks, he’ll come back fine and dandy!!

    Looks like I’m going to have to take my Cain Train photo off my desktop!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      What do you think the chances of the 999 plan 1. Even voted on 2. Voted in favor of – Based on Congresses track record and more importantly what the establishment wants, do you really think this plan regardless if its good or not would pass?

      • http://www.noneedforastinkingwebsite.com dow daytrader

        if u do the math, the 9-9-9 is the best; production and wages are only taxed once…very efficient. Obviously, it’s an uphill battle even if Cain won in a landslide…but we can dream, right?

      • poljunkie

        Our tax attorney, who is also a a CPA with many years experience, was here last week to finalize the paperwork for my dads estate, said the 999 plan will go nowhere. It just wont pass.
        He said a flat tax might….but in his opinion not likely either.

  • Linky1

    Since Newt is now on top of the polls, it will be his turn to be on the hit list.

    All I can do is look back to 2007-2008 when a young, unknown black American Senator with a liberal (and questionable) voting record, questionable ties to radicals, two books that espoused his political philosophy, put together an election machine (with questionable backers), buoyed by the MSM, stood up and proclaimed hope and change and became POTUS.

    No questioning of his background, his associations, his education, his citizenship, his credentials, nothing. Zip. Nada. Bupkis. TO this day, without the internet, blogs, Andrew Breitbart and FOX News, a lot of the stories about BHO would be nothing but speculation and rumors, not to be talked about, to be swept under the rug.

    It’s these same people – the Obama backers and zealots, the same MSM that are harpooning each and every conservative candidate that may be plain speaking, that may make gaffes, that want nothing more than to see American honor restored. Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, the list will keep growing till the only one left standing is Mitt Romney who, IMHO, has done and will do lip service to what Americans want in a President.

    It is great to be able to speak openly, to dissect, to disagree, to criticize potential candidates but what I see happening here is that the MSM, on behalf of the leftards, Marxists and Socialists is dictating the course of “who stay, who goes” when it comes to who will run against Obama.

    Hit pieces like this, combined with the non-allegations and outright lies from last week, purported by a sleazeball Democratic lawyer Gloria All-red make Cain out to look like a buffoon are orchestrated for that very reason-people will walk away from him and go on to the next candidate, kind of like a game of musical chairs, where there are less and less chairs each time the music stops. As this happens, Americans are diverted from the real scandals in the WH, the real problems which is what the opposition wants. Fling crap like this out there on the wall of public opinion and see what sticks.

    I guess it’s the critical thinker in me to look dispassionately at all sides of the coin, to look at the candidates and judge among other things, their passion for what they believe in, for what they say, for where they stand over the course of this primary season – do they flip flop, change their beliefs and take it from there. Ther eare just so many issues that either exist or pop up, that is is all but impossible for ANY candidate to be up on all of them. Case in point-what do all of the Republican candidates think of and what would they do when it comes to the Keystone pipeline?

    I’m a Canadian so I can’t vote, but I can make observations on what’s happening to our closest neighbour and friend.

    • Anonymous

      Real deep stuff! Well said.

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, I completely agree with everything you said. When it comes down to it, whoever the nominee is, he’s got my vote. Obama has to go before he flushes this country down the drain.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I agree girlfriend. When I first heard this, I didn’t agree with Cain on unions and collective bargaining, but with the Libya question, I agree, although it wasn’t the best answer- it was a spur of the moment, so I could not and would not judge the man by this.
      People laugh at me because I like Cain, and I got the same thing when I supported (still do) Palin- they’re inexperienced, they’re not ready, they have no real foreign experience blah blah blah.
      Are they inexperienced? In some cases yes. Palin has executive experience, she is a go getter who stands behind her principals no matter how popular or unpopular, she works hard and won’t take crap. She may not have all the answers when reporters shove a mic in her face, and she may have to learn the ropes from someone with more experience, but the fact is she loves America, she cares about people, she is sick of corruption and she doesn’t have a problem naming names and going after them when she is able.
      I see much of these same qualities in Herman Cain. He is a patriot. He never shied away from a challenge, but that challenge is not just some personal “gotta do it because it’s there” type of thing. He is as capable as any to run this country.
      People seem to have a problem with people like me who say that, saying dear leader had no experience and look at our country now. To those, I say look at the MAN, NOT the experience. Look at the MAN’S CHARACTER. To those of us who were wide awake and paying attention, we knew that dear leader was a marxist with very disturbing ideas which are antithetical to American ideals and who associated with antiAmerican, terrorist, marxist people. He admits such in his book that he purposely surrounded himself with them! Everything dear leader has done, which so many people believe him to be incompitant, has been by design. If not his own ideas, then the ideas of his heritage or previous mentors.
      Cain may not have the experience, but if he could pick the right cabinet members and staff, to help with areas that he needs to learn about. He is not an uneducated idiot, he has business and executive experience, and I believe he could do a lot of good for this country.

      • Anonymous

        We need a leader with wisdom don’t we Spunky?

        1. Wisdom

        2. Leadership (in the right direction)

        The most underated qualities in a President it seems.

        • Linky1

          Amen to that, Brother Hill!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            Brother Hill!! Hi!Hi!Hi!Hi!
            That all wizard from the Hills of Michigan!!!

      • Anonymous

        Can you hear me clapping!!!!! Well said.

      • Linky1

        Right back at you, girlfriend! Herman Cain’s patriotism, bluntness, and character make him a standout as a candidate and as an AMERICAN.

        Can Barack Obama or any of his left wing flunkies attest to that???

  • Scott Cainiac

    Newt? Broken Contract with America Newt?

  • cabensg

    Instead of sound bites, liberal bias and speeches to decide whether to support Gingrich why not at least go to his website. Look at the 21st century Contract with America, join in helping to shape it read his forward and then decide. I did not see one Rino remark in all of these. No we do not need an outsider. Reagan was not an outsider. He’d been in politics for many, many years. We need someone who wants to help us take back this country from the brink, who understands history, the constitution the Bill of Rights and American exceptional-ism. He’s collecting ideas from us as to what he should do on the first day as far as Executive orders. This is not a person who wants to exclude Americans. You have never seen anything like what is on this website from any other politician or person running for president it is in a word…remarkable. Until you check this out personally and then decide… I find any remarks about Gingrich to be without merit. This is not a criticism but it is a sharp rebuke to those who say how important this election is but fail to even take a close look at what is readily available on the internet. As for his past misdeeds or as a Christen would say, sins. Gingrich is a Christen and he is like all of us a sinner. As a Christen I’m sure he’s ask forgiveness for his sins from the entity that counts the most…God.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

    I’m still voting for Cain over RINO Romney and Global-warming Gingrich.

    • Anonymous

      Lol! Right on!

    • Anonymous

      They all are a bunch of government beruacrats Cain is the only one that stands out! It’s Cain or bust for me!

  • Steven

    Another thing Scoop, you are what’ wrong with the conservative base. You are just a bandwagon jumper. Whoever is up, “you are for.” You can’t think for yourself. It’s sad, really at this rate, when Newt gets ripped a new one by the media, Scoop will be asking, “Another look at Romney?” I mean you were for Bachmann, then for Perry, then for Cain, now for Newt? Seriously man stick to uploading video and stop showing your ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree, Scoop. Cain is a train wreck. I’m just surprised it tool you so long to come to that conclusion.

    For the record, I don’t currently support any of these sorry candidates.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WVUHZKSQJ4WMHDGZYTFIKICHKI E. Lee

    To be fair, I’ve never entirely been behind Cain. I think it’s great that a non-politician is so deeply and passionately involved in this process b/c, at the end of the day, I think there are far greater ideas for improving the functionality of government coming from outside the system than is coming from inside the system, but I would have to take a very serious look at all of his policies in order to give him my full support.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, the beauty of Cain is that he’s not an inside the beltway political hack. He’s right that neither he or any of the others, except Bachman, have the inside info at their disposal to make that call.

  • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

    Let’s keep our eyes on the prize which, to me, is the ultimate elimination of the income tax. It is at the very root of class warfare in America. No other candidate has the goal of eliminating the income tax. This is a VERY BIG DEAL!!! If we are lucky enough to get the 9-9-9 plan and, ultimately, the Fair Tax, this country will experience more growth than at any time since the Industrial Revolution! Cain says annual GDP growth under 9-9-9 will be 5%. That is a dramatic UNDERstatement. Try more than 10% and, when we ultimately transition to eliminating all income taxes and replace them with a straight national sales tax, the annual GDP growth number is in excess of 13%. That rivals CHINA! Remember that sucking sound that took all those jobs out of America? Get ready to suck all those jobs BACK IN to this country with 9-9-9!

    If Cain isn’t the greatest speaker on every topic I can forgive him that. We already have one of those in the White House and look where that took us! What is important are the beliefs that are at Mr. Cain’s CORE, quite unlike Romney who doesn’t even have a core!

    CEO’s never handle the details. Others are hired to attend to those. We understand what Herman Cain believes. I believe Cain’s core is closer to Reagan’s than any other candidate. Did Reagan oversee the day to day minutia of implementing is policies? NO! He laid out his principles and delegated others to incorporate those principles into policy. Cain will do the same!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      Actually Ron Paul had the elimination of the income tax before everyone and then everyone jumped onto and stole his ideas as they saw it was popular among the voters.

      • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

        Actually, Ron Paul stole a few ideas from Obama, like making friends with the Iranians. NO THANKS!

    • Anonymous

      And of course he has to get elected first. Not so sure about that any more, even though I donated to his campaign.

      • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

        Well then put on your big boy or big girl shoes and go find the courage of your convictions and bring them back to the table!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Baba/1109317395 Matt Baba

    what you expect someone to be so perfect right on the spot and have a perfect answer for every issue?, Herman Cain is not a robot like the other candidates, with vague preloaded answers to any issue. He takes his time to to form his own conclusion on every issue, I can understand if he has not been up to date on the Libya thing. But guess what, next time anyone asks him about Libya, he will be able to write a whole textbook on it. What is important is that he is a real leader, and has the ability to inspire people for the conservative movement in America, AS WELL as being able to adapt to the situation and learn, He is very intelligent. Im sorry Herman Cain isn’t a boring guy with gray hair and can give a pretty little answer on the spot then wink and point at the camera. He is more like an average guy, we make mistakes but it makes us stronger.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      We don’t have time to wait until Cain becomes smarter and stronger.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Baba/1109317395 Matt Baba

        yea we can, it wont take much, he’s like 90% there, give him a couple days and he’ll know all about libya, the same thing happened with the Israel thing, and he corrected himself. You want to talk about smart and strong? Obama cant think his way out of a paper bag without using demagoguery and Liberal talking points. I like Newt, but him and Cain should work together. Are we really going to settle for Romney, Perry, Huntsman? they are so typical politician guys and probably have a network of insiders waiting for them to get the nomination so they can start receiving their payback. If we want to change politics as usual, we got to vote for Cain.

  • Anonymous

    how come you are so forgiving on cain and not perry? his 999 plan is not all that it appears. and as some have said he is not used to handling the details. well, as i have said many times. running the united states of america is NOT the same as running a company! most cain’s stuff has been sound bites, slogans. not much depth. and he has been a political wonk and wanna be for a long time.

    i am not abandoning herman. i like him, but he is not deep, and he has baggage….

  • Anonymous

    NO RIGHTSCOOP Newt is horrible!!!!!! He can make liberal message sound conservative better that it makes Romeny blushed☺! I support a candidate that supports a free market!!! Newt wants to control it and our money at the liberal green energy cause! You need to screw your head back on right because your wrong!

  • http://twitter.com/BradMarston BradMarston

    Interesting. People attack Herman Cain for shooting from the hip and then attack him for taking 10 seconds to think about his answer. Can someone tell me exactly who we are supporting in Libya? I recall reading that hard line Islamicists are coming to the fore in Libya. I didn’t have a problem with his answer.

  • deo heerai

    Take a break guys TOO MANY agenda driven bloggers give this stuff a couple of weeks to settle down then make any decisions in the meantime say thank you to Herman Cain for exposing all the secret agendas. Sites like daily caller, hot air, NRO,are dead to me and its Herman Cain must be thanked for that. In the end only good can come from exposing agendas .

  • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

    Just to remind everyone, Newt is the guy who said “it takes a big government to do big things.” Is this a small government guy? He also supported a mandate making purchase of health insurance compulsory, just like Romney! Newt’s first order of business as a presidential candidate was to go on Meet The Press and TRASH the Ryan plan. So you want another flawless debater? Isn’t that what we already have in the White House? Be careful what you wish for…..

    • Anonymous

      Perry 2012

      • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

        What? Perry? He imploded long ago and is a much more consistent “imploder” than any of the other candidates! LOL

  • Brandy Carter

    Welcome to the Newtmentum!

    http://www.newt.org/

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect RS, I never really expected you to have such a short leash on Herman Cain.

    He’s a business man who wants to make the economy better than what it is today. Of course foreign affairs will be a weakness. But he has said time and time again, that he makes it a point to surround himself with the right people. I’m sure that with this topic that will be a very high priority in selecting his cabinet.

    I don’t know if I can stomach a Newt let alone the other two Rhino’s in contention.

    I’m not giving up, not matter what the pundents say at this point. To me this is certainly not what we would call the “Last Straw”.

  • http://twitter.com/Robfranklin112 Robert Franklin

    Im still on the Cain Train.

  • outinthedesert

    Clearly Cain is either very tired, or not versed on the subjects at hand. If he would truly surround himself with brilliant people in the White House if elected (as he has stated), then he’d better show us his ability to do that now by firing his campaign manager and getting someone in the position that knows how to keep his guy from sinking any chance he has at getting the nomination. I believe in a grass roots campaign, but this is ridiculous. Tine to bring in some professional help. He has the money now, and I believe he has the big ideas, but without the staff he won’t last another month.

  • http://twitter.com/Robfranklin112 Robert Franklin

    Im still on the Cain Train.

  • Anonymous

    Is anyone really sure he is conservative? He sure cannot articulate conservatism as evidenced by his abortion comments. I am wondering if we just assume that he is something that we want him to be. Come to think of it, I cannot remember one position that he is unquestionably conservative on. Problem is, he confuses me every time he speaks.

  • Anonymous

    Oh RIGHTSCOOP you’ve got a thing for Newt for long time. You closet Rhino You!

  • Anonymous

    An electric fence at the border?, China is a nuclear power?, negotiating with terrorists is ok?, ‘right of return?”, “so called” Palestinian people?, “life begins at conception/it’s up to the family”, ban Muslims from his cabinet?, collective bargaining is ok for public employees?…….I’ve had it……………………………………………… Nocain do!!!!!!….No mas.

    • Anonymous

      Et tu, Brute?”

    • Anonymous

      When you put it this way, you’ve got a point. But who else we really got? Not Newt, he’s a closet global warming truther; Perry wants more illegal immigrants; Romeny is… well, Romney. Huntsman was never in this 4 real; Ron thinks Al Qaueda are really our friends and they just need some love. That leaves just Bachman and Santorum. Surely its too late to jump ship to either of them if we don’t want establishment Romney to run as our candidate.

      Cain says he’s pro-life, although admittedly he needs encouragement that we the people are on his side on the issue, on China.. he clarified his statement later on… On muslims in cabinet, we can understand why an everyday run-of-the-mill former baptist minister who isn’t a career politician would have blurted this out… but hey, he took this statement back (its not like three quaters of the regular commenters on this blog don’t think along the same lines secretly) and the rest of what you raise is really much ado about nothing Steve, come on.

      No?

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for the persuasive Reply. I do believe that each issue I referred to is much ado about SOMETHING…..vital.

        I, also, am wondering who else we have. I hope to settle on someone that I can feel is more than a “lesser evil”. That person needs to speak without ambiguity and frequent revisions.

        In spite of my distain for the so-called “debates”, the formats and the moderators, it will eventually bring about my exercising my right to vote. I have not completely ruled out third party (though veeeerrry unlikely!)..and no, not Paul, unless he were to experience an epiphany regarding national security.

        There’s a whole lot to chew on as American conservatives vet there way along the ole’ vetting trail.

        “No?”

        • Anonymous

          “Thanks for the persuasive Reply.”

          Are you being sarcastic? Coz if you are… you don’t do it well. If you’re not being sarcastic, then thank you for the compliment.

          I have nothing else to say… my fingers are tired, so are my eyes, sorry. And thats a genuine sorry… not sarcastic or petulant.

          • Anonymous

            Unidentifiable, You have contributed mightely to this thread. I’ve read your other comments and appreciate that you articulate your thoughts and beliefs by combining them with your passion. Your manner engages dialogue.

            Rest those fingers. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Wow! I’m losing enthusiasm for Cain. He is either tired, or not well briefed on the topics. It’s time to fire his campaign manager and bring on a professional. He has the money, and the position in the polls. If the guys that let him do this to himself are the best he can surround himself with, I don’t want to see a Cain cabinet. He has said he would surround himself with competent people in the White House. Time to demonstrate that ability on the campaign trail, and let some people go.

  • Anonymous

    Oh dear, this has been very disappointing to me. No, not Mr. Cain, as he was ABSOLUTELY correct regarding the federal unions and how he would respond to a situation like Libya.

    I’m very disappointed in how quickly so many here jumped off the Cain Train, without really thinking this through. I actually have enjoyed coming to this website as I love the video clips and the comments. Those posting comments here seem to be intelligent, thoughtful, informed, etc. The opinions/debates also seemed to me to be very respectful (and not a gazillion trolls).

    And Scoop, it’s your website so you can say what you want, but I think you were really off base on this one, IMHO.

    • Anonymous

      Someone is thinking rationally and I agree!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Baba/1109317395 Matt Baba

      YES I AGREE! and everyone should read this comment haha

    • Anonymous

      The litmus test for a Republican President has always been their stand on the abortion question! Cain still has very sound conservative policies! Yeah, he might not be the brightest but he is the closest to who “We everyday people are”! As long as he is not promising to heal the land or walk on waters, I am pleased with him!

      • Anonymous

        “Yeah, he might not be the brightest but he is the closest to who “We everyday people are”! (Cindy)

        I’m sooo gonna pull your hair and scratch at your eyes. Cain is a flippin’ rocket scientist…literally. (Rshill7)

        “As long as he is not promising to heal the land or walk on waters, I am pleased with him!” (Cindy)

        Good thing you finished with this, I was already letting my fingernails grow.(Rshill7)

        :-)

        • Anonymous

          “I’m sooo gonna pull your hair and scratch at your eyes. Cain is a flippin’ rocket scientist…literally. (Rshill7)”

          Bwa!hahahhahahahaha! LOL!!!Okay, I agree. He is a “flippin’ rocket scientist”!!

          I was reading the whole article posted by RS and thinking like the British say: “Much Ado About Nothing” or like the French say:”des peccadilles, rien que des peccadilles” and the East Indians “Nayeba! Nayeba!” and the Poles: (okay that one I don’t know)!
          No, really Brother Hill, we already have a brainiac from Harvard in the White House and we all know how that’s ending up!!
          Now we need a Cainiac, “flippin’ rocket scientist”, regular guy, God-loving, Baby-protecting, economy-solving, well surrounded guy in the White House: that’s what we need!!
          Amen!!

  • Anonymous

    That wasn’t nearly as bad as I was led to believe it would be. I wouldn’t put it in a commercial, but it certainly isn’t a show stopper. Obviously, foreign policy isn’t his forte, but I have no doubt that in real life, he’ll have someone like John Bolton sitting at his table with the details. I seriously doubt if Ronald Reagan knew many of the details and he was obviously a spectacular leader. That is what we need, a LEADER.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rick.rsh Rick4Burke

    I think we’ll hear him come out and change his stance, but being uninformed on this issue might make it worse than actually supporting it.

  • Dodoforever Canspell

    This guy is zero on foreign policy too !! The Rep. nominee will be either Romney or Perry. My instincts tell me that Cain is not only a liar, he is close to a break-down on national TV because of his past mischief catching up with him. He has gone back on several statements he has made and yet you die-hard conservatives seem to give him a pass. What do you want? A black guy to fight the black Prez or a good decent and intelligent guy to save your country?

    • Anonymous

      Depends on who the good, decent and intelligent guy or gal is and what their core belief for our country is like!

  • Anonymous

    I like Cain, but his area of expertise is exceedingly narrow, as this process is painfully exposing. And that’s a good thing – it shows us who can and can’t go the distance. Newt is like the adult in the room, with vast experience and tremendous reach on all issues. He’s a mile wide and and a mile deep on the issues, where candidates like Cain are really puddle deep. Better that he embarrasses himself now, rather than all of us next year when it really counts. My money is on Newt, no one else can compete.

    • Anonymous

      Yah but, who has the goods on NEWT!? THE MACHINE!

      Is that what we want?

  • Anonymous

    We all know it will be Romney. I wish it would be Newt because he would bury the news media, but in the end it will be Romney because we have to beat Obama.
    I hate myself for saying that but it’s becoming clearer by the minute.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Baba/1109317395 Matt Baba

      does that mean you are just going to vote for Romney then? because if everyone had that attitude, you would be 100% correct that Romney will win, which is not at all true until the final vote is counted.

    • Anonymous

      Prophets have always been appointed. Hasty words my friend.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jasmine-Clark/1785223171 Jasmine Clark

      romney won’t necessarily beat obama… romney’s liberal-lite, he doesn’t form enough of a contrast to obama.

      we need a competent, strong conservative who is the complete opposite of obama. oh wait, she decided not to run. *cry*

      my current pick is newt…

  • Anonymous

    …bring on the primaries then we will see who is on TOP !

    DONATE :www.hermancain.com

  • Brandy Carter

    Newt is looking better and better.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jasmine-Clark/1785223171 Jasmine Clark

      he’s my current choice. i’m not THAT enthusiastic but if i had to pick one right now, it’s be newt. still wish sarah had run though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Baba/1109317395 Matt Baba

    I just want to say to Right Scoop after reading the support on here for Cain, in my best Eric Cartman Voice..”NA NA NA NA NA NA, HA HA HA HA HA HA”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stacy-Lanier/100000262765172 Stacy Lanier

    Complete Failure

  • Anonymous

    Im the first one to tell here this man is fiasco .

  • Anonymous

    Well after reading the 200 or so comments, it appears to me Cain is winning this one.

  • http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

    I’m anti union and have been for decades. In my opinion, unions have and continue to place our nation at a competitive disadvantage.

    Unionized labor would have put Godfather’s Pizza out of business. WTH is Herman thinking?

  • Anonymous

    not ready..what if he does this in a debate with the one…scary thought

  • Anonymous

    No need to get twitchy & weak kneed conservatives! People are human. Even “The Great O” gets flustered when off teleprompter & yet his base is steadfast to his defense. We conservatives should learn from this. Stop eating our own. NO candidate is perfect in this race! Ask yourselves who will be best for the country at this time. I could be proven wrong later on but for now based upon this tired/exhausted misstep I still say Cain is still the candidate that we need at this time of our country’s history. The best Obama remover of the bunch!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jasmine-Clark/1785223171 Jasmine Clark

      but cain is new to politics though… he is just in over his head. he’s a nice guy, i like him. but he’s not ready to be president.

      • Linky1

        Ummmmmm was Barack Obama ready to be President? Just sayin”……

        Don’t judge Cain or any of the other less experienced non-Beltway types because they have not got experience. They have experience in living, in running a business, dealing with people on many different levels…pray, tell me-how does that NOT qualify you in politics?

        Thought the whole idea was for someone fresh, new, away from the DC style of doing things and here you are, and a lot of others, complaining at “lack of experience. Again, I’ll repeat myself…saying it slowly……..BARACK OBAMA. He’s the one to be defeated and if it takes someone like Herman Cain (or whoever gets nominated), then, so be it.

  • http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

    Thank you Journal Sentinel and thank you Scoop for exposing Cain on his lack of knowledge of foreign and domestic affairs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jasmine-Clark/1785223171 Jasmine Clark

    i had a lot of trouble getting the videos to play… grrr

    anyway, wow wtf. i stopped supporting cain weeks ago (actually BEFORE the harassment allegations) but if i were still supporting him, i’d stop now.

    i don’t have a prob with him saying cb is okay as long as it doesn’t burden taxpayers. but, that is still a vague thing to say. be specific on limits of collective bargaining. and, he was clueless on the federal unions!

    the libya answer… to be fair, obama WAS inconsistent and unclear, so you can’t just say “i agree” or “i disagree.” but still. cain looked absolutely confused and lost!! and his answer was, again, too vague. on foreign policy, his answer is almost always “idk, so i will ask experts.” it’s clear- the man does not know what he’s doing. i realized that weeks ago but it’s even clearer now.

    goodbye cain, thanks for playing.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t support Cain for Cain sake. I still support him for my sake! That 999 plan is awesome! 18% if that, what the gov will take from and not a cent more

  • Anonymous

    On your first point, I agree: Very sad state of affairs indeed.

    On your second point: Easy. I agree. That “unified response” would be “Heck NO, it does not matter what color skin the next POTUS is!” And to suggest they would answer otherwise is an unwarranted slight on their integrity.

    On your last point, HERMAN CAIN is HERMAN CAIN… NOT Newt Gingrich! He attempted to engage properly and intelligently with the question and not just offer an easy, populist answers such as career politicians like Newt are all to trained in doing: “Yes, I disagree with Obama, so vote for me!” If Obama said the sky was blue, and Newt was asked if he agreed with the president, he’d probably give the same response as he did with the Libya answer: “No I disagree with Obama.” If you can’t see the way Cain’s answer for what it was: balanced and as thought-through as possible considering the circumstances, then thats your individual problem I’m afraid.

    And on your final statement/point, the pressure he faces now is a different kind of pressure to what he will face as president. The pressure now is different in that he has to be seen as not running away from the allegations and bat them away effectively in order to win the white house at all. When in the white house, he’s in and can just outright ignore foolish, baseless and clearly mallicious allegations. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure he’ll have better information as POTUS in order to be able to answer the sort of questions as those put to him above, in more detailed and cohesive manner.

    Now something tells me you won’t agree with anything I’ve just said. Lol. All the same, fire away my friend.

    • Anonymous

      Very well said NoID.

      • Anonymous

        “NoID”?

        • Anonymous

          unidentifiable- blank/blacked out picture= No ID? Was easier for me to spell.

          • Anonymous

            Cool bro.

    • Anonymous

      This was supposed to be a reply to a reply by Wordsfailme above. Sorry for the messup.

  • mike morrison

    Implodes??? C’mon RS…that’s just a tad hyperbolic don’t you think??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    10 seconds to think before saying something that he’d get jumped on for the next 4 days…then he asked the journalist to narrow the scope of the question regarding Libya and President Obama—and answered it perfectly and responsibly.

    I don’t understand this rush to throw him under the bus??? Newt is next in line and although I love his brainpower, he REALLY DOES have tons of personal baggage and you can bet the networks already have their articles and stories ready to roll just as soon as they prop him up enough! Do we really want Romney over Cain??? Newt would be a great VP pick for Cain. Cain is the only one with a tax plan to get rid of the IRS, the 16th amendment, and get EVERYONE paying taxes again…and he’ll put us on a glidepath to a national sales tax abolishing all other taxes.

    • Anonymous

      does his plan repeal the 16th amendment? if so, how would they collect the second nine?

    • Anonymous

      I think what has got The Scoop this backlash of negative comments on here is his initial overexageration really. When I saw his headline: “Can Implodes”, I was like “Oh No… Maybe he did commit those acts of sexual misconduct afterall… time to click and have a look, with one eye closed…” Then I saw the clips and was like “WAAAAA? Come on Scoop, whats up?!!! Implodes?!! This sounds like MSNBC/CNN doing a hit piece on Cain not The Scoop!

      • Anonymous

        Cain* not Can sorry

  • Anonymous

    One last thought from the Bear side of things on this. The President can push a button and have 17 “experts” racing down the hall to fall over each other and into his office. He can push another button and speak to anyone on the planet.

    Heck, when O’ doesn’t know, he pushes a button and good ole’ Joe the VP comes running…which leaves him even more confused.

    A President has staff and experts of every stripe and every expertise. He doesn’t need to have the serial numbers memorized on each Daisy Cutter either. When a decision confronts him, he gathers the experts and info, he weighs the problem and decision from as many angles as he can and he makes a decision based on wisdom, the available info/intel and on what he feels is best for the USA.

    • Anonymous

      “What he feels is best for USA” that is key. Feel Cain would know what is best for US, unlike obama who has only his agenda to transform US.

      • Anonymous

        right now i think that is a giant leap of faith. sorry.

  • Anonymous

    I went to the msj and watched the rest of the interview clips. sorry to say, they were not impressive either. especially the one about his lack of experience.

  • Anonymous

    another misspoke? lolololo, but remember he always have a reason .

  • http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

    The links to the Cain collective bargaining and Libya interview vids have been posted on Cains Google+ page. Am waiting to see if there is any reaction to the post.

  • Anonymous

    Look’s like brain fry to me !! He needs a day (or two) off and a good nights sleep. This is not any different than Perry’s gaffe last week.

    • Mr. EMT

      Except this is somewhere in the second or third dozenth time he has gaffed and “misspoken”
      And also supported collective bargaining.

      • Anonymous

        david axelrod will be on the morning shows saying “Herman Cain has no core”. I am afraid I don’t know what he believes in. This field is disappointing. I wish Perry could debate. At least I think I know what he believes, whether I agree or not. Newt makes me nervous, but I think we may be stuck with him.

        • Mr. EMT

          Im not impressed with the debates at all, much less someone who is performing well in them?
          Big deal.
          All that shows me is you would make a good white house press secretary.
          Especially in newt’s case when he is only a conservative when it benifits his wallet, and is just as likely to be a liberal.

          And yes, Perry is very easy to figure out where he stands on taxes, spending, gun rights, abortion, and government control over citizens. He has a legislative record that backs up his platform.

  • http://twitter.com/TammyChicago Tammy P

    Wow. Just wow. No Cain do.

  • Mr. EMT

    Caint make it a week with out gaffing.
    He needs to send out a memo to the press.
    Confine your questions to 999 so he doesnt gaffe himself to death.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ranjay25 no kia

    Ok fine, he not perfect! Obama is perfect & what does he have to show for it? There’s a difference between unwittingly making a mistake vs. wittingly flushing the country down the crapper.

    • Anonymous

      HAHAHAHA… Too true!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

    Has anyone ever thought that it may not be a bad idea if the republicans didn’t win this election? I say that because in my opinion nobody is going to correct this financial situation for several years and if the republicans did win the Presidency their first term could be a disaster based soley on the economy. If that happens they would face a good chance at losing in their first election. From what the so called financial experts say, we are in for a long long ride in this pathetic economy so instead of getting a bad name for something we can’t really control would it be better just to let the dems take the brunt of this?

    • Anonymous

      SUPREME COURT JUSTICES!!! We have to win this election, or we will become a socialist nightmare.

    • http://twitter.com/BorisBad Boris Badenough

      This can’t be a serious question. Sure, let’s just let Obama continue to destroy the capitalist system by executive order. MAN OH MAN!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

        I asked because I heard the idea or thought floating around a few weeks ago on Michael Medveds show.

        • http://www.facebook.com/steamboat2302 Joshua Saunders

          People said the same thing in 08′ look where that got us.

    • http://profiles.google.com/ranjay25 no kia

      Economy is not the only thing to worry about. The supreme court, circuit & appellate court appointees is extremely important. With the obama heath care mandate taken up by the supreme court…Imagine if at least one conservative judge like Scalia retires during a democrat presidency. I shutter at the thought of that.

    • Anonymous

      Yes! If Herman Cain is not the nominee I will not waste this historic opportunity of voting for a republican that will not reform the tax code, cuting departments of government, freeing the energy markets. NO WAY WILL I WASTE 16yrs for another opportunity.

      I will rather president zero get in there with a republican control house and senate. Maybe after 4yrs we can elect a true capitalist AND NOT ANOTHER DAMN GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/ServantCEO Anthony

    maybe Herman Cain should get more sleep before doing these styles of gotcha interviews where the whole interview is taped. While the media will COVERUP ALL their guy (obama & romney) every chance they’ll get, they MAGNIFY every moment of natural human weakness when it comes to conservatives!

    • Anonymous

      I really don’t think the interviewers did anything wrong. it was a fair interview. Cain is just not familiar with the issues.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

        Its their job to try to trip you up, they want to see if you’re on your game and not remembering some script.

  • Anonymous

    Slow and steady a Newt wins the race.

    BTW I can’t watch the videos. No interest in seeing a good man make a fool of himself. But this is necessary, the weaker candidates disqualify themselves. Cain is a great guy and I truly admire him. But Newt is the one that’s going get this country back on track.

    • Anonymous

      Newt is going to get this country back on track. HOW!!!

      How is throwing government money at ethanol, wind mills, solar panels, and hydrogen fuel cells is going to lower the cost of fuel? Those markets require fuel prices to be high and gov dough in order to be viable!

      I’m sorry but Newt is a liberal just like Romney but can talk a good game!

  • http://twitter.com/ServantCEO Anthony

    I know Newt shines during debates and has had awesome powerful moments against some reporters, but in all fairness, didn’t Newt speak up for action on Libya and then attack Obama for taking action!? Newt is wrong on Syria and on Libya but he had a wonderful moment during the debate when he called the “arab spring” what it is: rising against Arab Christians and other Christians around the world! I am not sure on Bosnia, if newt did not try to “wait” to see if clinton could get enough votes first, before taking a clear position, do you know?

    In all fairness, Cain is obviously Cain and was trying to clarify his thoughts after an obvious sleepless night?

  • Anonymous

    to those on the Cain Train: what positions are you supporting? He seems like a nice guy, but I want to know why he is considered conservative. I am not being sarcastic, I am genuinely confused.

    • Steven

      9-9-9, energy independence, cutting spending, investing in the military, etc. He’s an across the board conservative. How can you not see this?

      • http://www.facebook.com/steamboat2302 Joshua Saunders

        Abortion, right to work, auditing/limiting the fed, shutting down people who dare question his explanations as being too weak. He’s conservative, but not across the board in any way according to his public record speaking. He may even truly be a conservative and just fails to realize how to articulate it, but taken just from his words, it doesn’t create an across the board conservative politician.

        • Anonymous

          Cain supports the second amendment, but says gun control should be a states decision.

          • Anonymous

            how can you have gun control if the constitution says otherwise?

            • Anonymous

              Exactly. Cain has no clue what he’s saying, and if challenged will say it was misconstrued, taken out of context, or he misspoke.

            • Anonymous

              You usurp the constitution . These guys have had years to test the weaknesses of the greatest government ever created and have been successfully dismantling it over the past few decades. We have been lazy in safeguarding our rights and the Marxists and Communists have been filling the void. Stand up, let your voice be heard, and kick a$$, They fear you when they hear you.

      • Anonymous

        has he been specific re cutting spending? except for 999, the things you mentioned are true for all the candidates (nevermind ron paul). even obama claims to want energy independence and said he would cut the deficit in half.

        Cain does not seem conservative on bailouts, abortion, the fed, unions, civil rights (as in no mosques), and i have no idea what his foreign policy is.

  • Anonymous

    Dick Morris is gushing over Cain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steamboat2302 Joshua Saunders

    This, to me, is the straw that broke the camels back. The first was the knowledge that he was never going to be great on articulating foreign policy. See, that was ok to me. The fact that he has a “transition” to the fairtax also was a step down, but it was better then anything else that I have seen towards eliminating the I.R.S. and going to a consumption based tax. It also worried me that once there is both an income and sales tax that both could then go up in the future for some “desperate need” or a supermajority in the future. So that gave me some pause. When he was asked the question on Piers Morgan about Abortion, I overreacted a bit, but I really just wanted more clarification on it. I used strong language in the post, but was not vulgar or even unfair in the post. Asking him how he can claim to be pro-life and yet say something about how its the “family’s decision” I then got blocked from posting on his facebook page. This really bothered me, but I let it go eventually because I saw him as the best candidate running a decent campaign at the time. Then came the “sexual harassment” scandals. Do I believe any of them? Probably nothing to them imo if there was there would have been more then just a complaint and platitudes about ridiculous things that I don’t consider even offensive much less harassment. It was how it was handled. He was inconsistent, and did not get out in front of it. I chalked it up to inexperience in dealing with this type of crisis. Then we get to these things, the Libya thing alone would not have been so much of a deal breaker. He obviously would be very advisor based foreign policy wise. It was the comments about collective bargaining and his lack of knowledge on something that should be in his wheelhouse, or at the very least something he should have prepared himself for. Not only that, but he comes out and sounds like he is for collective bargaining rights for public employees. When you combine this with his not believing an audit of the fed is important, his views on TARP and how it was just mishandled it starts to create a picture that makes me doubt his conservative credentials. Appearances are probably even not true, but right now to me he sounds like he is to the left of Mitt Romney on nearly everything. I’m not sure he can recover enough in my eyes to gain my vote. I’m not sure where I go from here I’m almost to the point where I throw up my hands and say hey you guys give me the nominee I get to hold my nose and vote for in the primaries. I am so beyond frustrated that words cannot ever do it justice.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      Nice post Joshua!!! I like the fact that you actually went into detail about why you feel the way you do in regards to Cain, it would be nice to see everyone express in detail about why they’re for a certain candidate.

      • http://www.facebook.com/steamboat2302 Joshua Saunders

        I’m hoping to narrow my choice down to one..although I will say when I do come out and support someone I will let everyone know exactly what I see as a weakness and what I see as a strength. Active on twitter and on my blog on wordpress.

  • Steven

    For those who need to jump on bandwagons and look at polls, the latest RCP shows Cain hanging tough. He’s still ahead in Iowa and frankly the Iowa winner is going to be the conservative standard bearer against Romney. So those counting Cain out for trivialities are jumping the gun. It’s still a long race. And plenty of debates and campaigning left to go. Cain is able, Cain 2012!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

  • Anonymous

    Newt is a false conservative and has too much baggage.

    Mr. Cain remains my choice even though he is imperfect. He studies, corrects, and brushes up so I would trust his leadership, hoping that he would do these things before making an important move….but then I need someone to believe in after Mrs. Palin decided not to run. I so want a real conservative in office and to not have to vote for Romney or any of those RINO’s that Rove likes. Also, Newt is an old white guy and may lose to Obama on that score. Sorry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/salvatore.anello Salvatore Anello

    As the great philosopher once said, “you got to know when to fold ‘em”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karla-Heidt/670151878 Karla Heidt

    Fair weather supporter much? I’d like to see you put together a cogent thought on 4 hours of sleep. If anyone other than Cain gets the nomination, it WILL be 4 more years of Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I am missing it. I worked for the Postal Service for 14 years. We were represented by unions. Our contractual benefits were negotiated by union leaders and the Postmaster General every 3 years. A lot of federal employees pay increases, medical benefits, retirement system is based on bargained negotiations, not merit. How was Cain wrong? Unions negotiate benefits.

    • http://twitter.com/ServantCEO Anthony

      not sure. must be something someone thinks he means or the way he is trying to answer while avoiding their gotcha moments.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stacy-Lanier/100000262765172 Stacy Lanier

    Wonder if it was a brain fart or does he really not understand the issues.

  • Daumin Franks

    Well, whatever else you think about Cain… you can’t say that no one is interested in what he is doing, or that no one has an opinion about him!

    Do you think we’d see a 300 comment thread on Santorum?

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, at least his Name ID is way up! I like how a lot of people are raising some Cain here on the Right Scoop.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    This getting scary – One after another these possibles are becoming impossible

    Cain needs a vacation

    Hey SCOOP – How about You and me – I think we could do a better job

    We could pick the cabinet from everyone on this board!

  • Anonymous

    Whoa !! What happened ? Cain was really off his game , not at all the Cain we’ve seen up til now .

  • orthodoxyordeath

    Here’s the fact, the way that the political races are portrayed, we don’t actually see and get to analyze “deep” thought. What we get is a battle of who is the best at mental contortions. That’s what debates are, mentally contorting to answer deeply convoluted political issues in short amounts of time, quickly, with no real specific prep. It’s stupid. This is stupid. Still with Cain.

    • Anonymous

      can’t argue with that

  • Anonymous

    Here Herman Cain looks so uncomfortable and as if he had ants in his pants, granted that he could have been having a hemmaroids flair up, just too off of message that I agree with RS that he is not ready for the big dance today.

  • zytekfan

    Welllll…. now I’m looking seriously at Gingrich….

  • Christopher McCray

    I just looked at the Libya clip, and I’m still trying to find the problem with it. Somebody clue me in as to why I’m suppose to not be happy about this clip?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

      If you knew what’s expected from a Presidential candidate then its quite obvious what the problemS were…including the very first question posed to him.

      • Anonymous

        What is expected??!! we are trying to put him in a box and have him be just like others?

    • http://www.facebook.com/steamboat2302 Joshua Saunders

      I don’t have a problem so much with his answer, as I have to his presentation of his answer. Not just in how long he took to think about it, I agree with others thats a stupid yardstick, but his response was unresearched, vague, and not presidential. Overall, it was not the libya response that sent me out of his corner, but the union thing, and a culmination of many different things that ended up costing him my vote (more then likely anyway) I just no longer have the confidence that 1.) he is capable of running a competent campaign against obama and 2.) that he is as conservative as some of the other candidates, and on paper, not even to the right of romney on a great many different things.

    • http://twitter.com/ServantCEO Anthony

      he was so tired that he took a long time to get his thoughts together, so we should throw him under a bus???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5L4RE3FBBG5SN3KXERKJZ53VLU Stormwalker

    True. Herman Cain is running for President. True. The media, and anybody in the media, is looking for soundbytes, recordings, transcripted statements (sometimes edited), facial expressions, anything that would make their argument, that “this guy is no good”.

    With that in front of him, and having been served whatever question, in whichever writer’s slant upon that question (like that rat bastard moderator in Sat.’s debate), even I, would take a moment, to remember what was done, and how I would opine on that!

    I’m a published writer. I understand that there are moments that you wish to send “zingers”, couched in other phrases, unknown to the recipient, but known to the reader. There are times I ask questions from viewpoints, possibly not thought about, or prepared to answer. That’s what these guys do! When I was job-hunting, I had to be able to field all sorts of questions in regards to my expertise in the field I was pursuing. Yet, there were a few, that I had to stop and get it in gear, too.

    I believe the man is qualified. I believe that he is a better choice than the current usurper in charge. He is not a career politician. I endorse his tax plan. I endorse his statements as Commander-in-Chief. You may have views on foreign policy, but until someone takes the Oath of Office, they don’t know JS. I believe that The Usurper has attempted a Chicago-style besmirching campaign that is false. I KNOW that Herman Cain is a natural born American.

  • Anonymous

    Where did Sarah go? We need her.

    • Anonymous

      The media picked her and her family to death and we went along with it. Looks like we are again getting ready to implode on a decent candidate who could use our support.

  • Anonymous

    Oh crap. Is anyone left on the Republican ticket who worth my vote or do I have to write in?

  • deo heerai

    If We let others tell us who is worthy but not listen to our own hearts and minds then we will get the candidate we deserve, we will get ROMNEY and we have no one to blame but OURSELVES

  • Anonymous

    Cain is the best Conservative running. He made a mistake. Oh’ well.

    I’d take Cain’s or even Perry’s gaffes versus Newt Gingrich developing and promoting the Individual Mandate that became the centerpiece of RomneyCare and ObamaCare.

    • Anonymous

      Amen!!!

      Just watch. They will pick apart this good man because he has a different, more deliberative and analytical style than our usual politicians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=648641241 Simon Kane

    I’d sure love to grill any of you for 10 days in a row and maybe 4 hours sleep a night. Jerks. :(

  • Mary Beth House

    AndrewNBCNews Andrew Rafferty
    When I asked Cain if today’s Libya gaffe builds on idea he doesn’t have in depth knowledge of foreign policy, he simply said, “999”

    https://twitter.com/#!/AndrewNBCNews/status/136250785339150336

    AndrewNBCNews Andrew Rafferty
    To clarify: My previous tweet was NOT a joke.

    https://twitter.com/#!/AndrewNBCNews/status/136258500010582016

    • Anonymous

      he sounds like he caricatured himself. not funny.

  • Anonymous

    What a bunch of buffoons we have to chose from. Do we not deserve better than these?

    The only logical choice at this point in Newt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILLO7DOIHRVYT3BECVANNBVXWM David

    Chances that Cain has always been Romney’s plant to help Mitt get elected? Anyone know of any relationship between the two?

  • Anonymous

    I like and have supported Cain, but I’m with RS on this one–possibly not for the same reasons.

    I do not believe these allegations of sexual harassment are true. I think it is a hit job. However, his handling of it has been lackluster. His best showing was his last commentary on it when he flat denounced the whole thing. However, his statements leading up to it were confusing. I would not go far as to say that he is being hyper-political and trying to say the right things. I am more concerned that he just isn’t organized enough and ready for this job. The above videos are further evidence. It is as if he is winging it. I like him. I think this primary will be good experience to build on, but I can’t put him in front.

    For all his folly, I like Newt’s posture in this race so far. He’s playing it like a fiddle. He doesn’t have half the organization and money behind him as Romney, but is doing well in spite of it. Newt has the know-how and experience to roll back the incredible damage this administration has thrust on the country. He may just be the right guy at the right time considering.

    I also will continue to support Santorum, Bachmann, and Perry. I think all three of these candidates have been sold short in this process. Santorum and Bachmann also know how to roll this mess back. They are far more experienced and knowledgable than the media will credit.

  • Anonymous

    deleted-already posted.

  • Anonymous

    Ouch!!!

  • blackbird

    The Libya response was not such an issue for me but the collective bargaining response was.

  • http://twitter.com/ServantCEO Anthony

    Herman Cain: “Newt would be an excellent president. But I just don’t know if he can get there.” I know talking to independents and many Republicans, they just don’t feel right about Newt for some reason, while Cain is the most electable adding to Reagan democrat base with an upbeat positive executive style if we can ever let him get past the axelrod/allred false allegations!

    Read More http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201111/herman-cain-interview-alan-richman-chris-heath-devin-gordon#ixzz1dkEmB9HP

    • Anonymous

      Axelrod is only the beginning. They are now beginning to play the Cain is stupid videos, as this one. Trying to make him look stupid.

      He is actually wise, is using Henry Ford’s classic technique, which it to NOT know everything but to find people who do have expertise.

      I totally agree he hit the main bullet point re. Libya. Who were we supporting or opposing?!!!!

    • Anonymous

      “for some reason” .. that reason is because he’s got huge luggage racks full of baggage. Most of it pertaining to infidelity, one of the most known is when he left his dying wife. There are also concerns that he talks one talk, but has another walk. Much of what he says, contradicts what he’s done. A part of me likes him a lot, another part says, “don’t trust him”. Trust, I think that’s what it all comes down to. That’s why the media is working so hard to make people not trust Cain.
      Even as I type this out, I can’t help but think of George Bush. Conservatives had such high hopes for him, but between the war, & the media constantly trying to bring up some scandal on his past (which was repeatedly proven to be falsified) he got soft and let his democrat congress & media walk all over him. We voted him into office to be the conservative we needed, but he allowed wasteful spending and debt increases to happen instead of standing up and saying, “no, that’s not what I was hired for!”. My point being, is that even though many of us were disappointed in a lot of his term, if I were asked if I trusted him … trust … I’d have to say, yes.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have the bandwidth to watch these. Fooey! Maybe I’m glad.

    But I have been thinking about the “collective bargaining” thing ever since the Wisconsin tea-party protests.

    Here’s where I am on it: The right to organize and bargain is tough to deny anyone. To some extent, it cannot really be prevented because of First Amendment and Declaration protections (everyone forgets the Declaration). The government can be prevented from sanctioning unions or recognizing their charters, but they can’t stop organized employees from demanding bargaining rights unless they are prepared to jail anyone threatening a walkout.

    In a critical job, such as traffic controllers, police, teachers (and other sorts of resources), strikes, slowdowns, and walkouts ought to be severely punished, union or no union.

    But bargaining tactics, in general, I cannot see refusing lawful citizens.

    However, public-sector workers need to be strictly prevented from using any funds resulting from organizing–irrespective of the first amendment, and any overt union recognition–for the benefit of any political party, candidate, or office. No exceptions. It should be a federal crime, equal to wire fraud, kidnapping, and other high crimes.

    SO Herman is OK by me for allowing “collective bargaining.” But it has to be under strict conformance with non-political activity, and it should be restricted to wages and benefits, and possibly work hours and conditions. Further, the leverage allowed to such collective bargainers should not include strikes, slowdowns, or other forms of coercion.

  • Anonymous

    I like Herman, but he lacks depth. He was clearly fumbling around trying to spit out the Conservative mantra on the issues. However, a Conservative at the core, can speak intelligently on any issue by simply reverting back to our guiding principles. Put Herman at Treasury and move on to the next issue. Mitt vs. Newt. Newt is the last shot at taking down Romney!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Dias/1680711668 Chris Dias

    I have to study it further. I don’t understand your beef exactly. The president doesn’t have to know everything, but does need to be a good delegation. I’ll watch it again and I’m not clear on collective bargaining.

  • Anonymous

    We are not used to watching someone think. I was fine with his deliberating and his answers.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like we now have trolls…. ARGH

  • Anonymous

    Obama has done quite a lot of things lately when it comes to foreign countries. I used to live in the middle east and am familiar with many of them, but even I have gotten “who did what” confused lately. When you have a handful of military actions going on that are similar in action, it’s easy to do.

    Right now, Cain is a professional candidate. He is working daily on the strenuous act of campaigning, while being pummeled by the media with all of these false allegations. The original question was somewhat vague. I probably would have said, “disagreed with which action in Libya exactly”, because he has made numerous decisions where Libya is concerned.

    One thing I’ve learned in researching Herman Cain, is that no matter what job he takes on, he throws himself into that job to know it intimately, and to do it the best way it can be done. As I said, right now, he is throwing himself into being the best candidate he can be. Once in office, he would do just as every other challenging job he has taken on … throw himself into it, and do it the best way it can be done. That is why he is always eager and willing to take other people’s opinions on an issue, because he doesn’t believe that his is always the best answer, so he brings in people who are experts in that area, to find out, together, what would be the best course of action.

    I’m looking forward to a Cain presidency, and really couldn’t care less who doesn’t. I’ve lived enough years of watching everyone else get what they want, while conservatives sat silently aside, allowing others to have their say. From the looks of Cain’s numbers … most of republican America agrees with me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W3FMTBSVBSRY6R5HWJ4PWP5MCI Lacey

    In all due respect, this is what I have been seeing in a good majority of his interviews. I feel like he is just winging it. That is just more of the same but with no content. And for the record Cain isn’t the only one to get us out of the mess were in.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMYEB4QK6KS57IJJPRYJY4XBN4 TT

    Newt is not a newt but he may be a chameleon, changing colors to fit the political scene. He knows the talk! What do his actions tell us??

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMYEB4QK6KS57IJJPRYJY4XBN4 TT

    I don’t see these as bad as you make them out to be Scoop. Perhaps you are being influenced by others whom you respect?

  • Anonymous

    Would I have liked Cain to have a snappy answer on Libya? Sure. Now tell me what an American policy in Libya that aids our national interest and the interests of freedom loving people in Libya (as opposed to Sharia thugs of a new regime). Face it, libya is a low priority for America — much more an issue for France and Italy. Cain has the big picture right though–rejuvenating America–and is better on that than any other candidate. I’ll stick with Cain cause we’ve got to get the big issues right.

    • Jeff Song

      If you are concerned about the big issues then you should consdier that Cain said that the people that are saying that the housing bubble is about to end are “not only wrong, but irresponsible” — just before the end of the bubble.

      What are the big issues? If you want to fix the mess you need to understand how you got in the mess in the first place. Basically it was keynesian economics that did it. He thinks that Mr. keynesian (Greenspan) is a good model for the next FED chair. ie. Cain doesn’t seem to think keynesian economics is a problem.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Dias/1680711668 Chris Dias

        Crap, Don’t tell me that. I’m going to cry for Sarah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGEEDUGEKWTWPZSMT5NIPZGBDM rex
  • Anonymous

    Crap.

    In answer to your Newt question… No, thanks.

    • Anonymous

      couldn’t have put it better myself

      not sure about newt for me yet

  • Anonymous

    Then why are we tweeting Cain on your front page?

  • Anonymous

    At first glance I was worried about Cain from this interview. After reading comments below I have come to the conclusion that as a couple people have mentioned, we as people looking for a viable candidate want quick snappy answers to all the questions posed to him regardless of the situation. We don’t like to see people think. We believe when they take a pause in their speech and collect their thoughts that they somehow are “lost” or “don’t know what the ‘right’ thing to say is”. When in reality its just them processing the information and then answering.

    He did slip a little at first with the Libya question due to him not being sure exactly what about Libya they were asking. I mean what else would they be talking about in regards to Libya? If takes this on as Perry did his debate slip up then I don’t think it will be a big issue.

    We also have to look at the conditions of the interview. It didn’t appear to be more than 3-4 people (judging from the last question off camera) in the room. They seemed to be in some office room in a casual setting. The two main interviewers were sitting across the table from him. I’m betting they didn’t give him a list of questions that were going to be asked before hand. The whole interview was off the cuff. I think people are making more of this issue than they should. Again, we aren’t used to see people think about an answer before giving. It makes us uncomfortable.

    And most importantly what are people worried about here? That you did not like his answers? Fair enough….or that he didn’t answer within 2 seconds of the question and had to think of his answers?

    • Anonymous

      Truth is, a small stroke will give you a few foggy moments like Herman had. Then it passes and you feel normal again. Another day, another nail.

  • http://magnusorerar.blogspot.com Magnus A

    Alexa statistics for pundits AND nerds…?

    http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6347897742_d01c2b218c.jpg

    Large interest for Cains website since late September (the Florida poll?). Newt is now rising, and Cain, Romney, and Gingrich has right now the most visited sites.

    Bachmann, and (unfortunately) Sanctorum has very low traffic. (Sanctorum in an interview on your blog seemed strong on foreign policy, and on other topics; has appeared like “weak” (too humble?) in debates? If not president (“God forgive”…), a “super VP” — or a good Romney VP to “balance faith”?…)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FGBGUV7OLREHZ6VXYJ63QT5CFY Steve

    Another look at Newt… Sorry Cain, but being the President of the United States mean, you get 4 hours of sleep and the next morning you are in cabinet meetings and you are discussing policy. If this is how you explain your poor performance, you are obviously not cut out to be President. Maybe as CEO you could just call off or re-schedule meetings, but when it comes to the American people, we need someone who can answer that call at 4am and make the best choice.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-L-Stokes-Stanford/699686011 Michelle L. Stokes-Stanford

      If you are wanting someone who will answer the phone and make a decision with little to no imput, then do you know what you are asking for?

  • Anonymous

    So here implode my Intrade predition … Cain : “G-O B-A-C-K T-O S-E-L-L-I-N-G P-I-Z-Z-A”

  • Anonymous

    Go home, Herman. Stop embarrassing yourself and us. You’re in way over your head. Poor guy. I sorry for Cain, and I’m embarrassed for him, but no way do I want this man in the White House. If Cain ever had to face obama in a debate, the election would be obama’s from that moment on.

    He didn’t do his homework. He’s not informed, to put it mildly, on major events of the day. Excuses and smoke and mirrors. He panicked because he didn’t know the answer, and there was no way to fix that.

    How does a journalist listen to a response like that without doing a double facepalm?

  • Jim Bummer

    He gave the right answer on Libya, and said he supported collective bargaining NOT collective hijacking, and that the taxpayers should come first.

    If you’re dumping him over this, and throwing in with Gingrich wh can’t be trusted further than he can be thrown, you’re a weak person that is conceding defeat to the media.

  • Jim Bummer

    Oh, and many Federal workers DO, in fact, enjoy collective bargaining rights.

  • http://twitter.com/carlstone carlstone

    C’mon people – you’re all ignoring the one candidate who has a chance to beat Obama and bring this country back to greatness – Fred Karger!

  • Anonymous

    This guy would be a great president. I pray he runs on the Republican ticket!

  • Anonymous

    Cut him a break. Foreign policy is not important to Koch Heads… unless it involves shipping jobs overseas. The US needs to stay competitive!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621024275 Joshua Gartrell

    Let’s give this guy the ability to be human. How many hours has he been exposing himself to media, cameras, interviews, etc… How does this compare to the other candidates? Romney is hiding until all the true conservatives kill each other off, the GOP base is done devouring their best options and only are left with too-fake-Mitt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joeywatkinsim Joseph Watkins

    All you haters suck. You call yourselves conservatives and whine and moan about spineless weak republicans that cave all the time. Listen to yourselves! “Did you agree with President Obama on Libya?” Correct me if I’m wrong, but did Obama have a clear unwavering plan from the get go?! Our bumbling community organizer in chief never has a clear plan/idea when it comes to foreign policy, so how can you quickly answer that yes or no question. You people are part of the problem not the solution. Look in the mirror and realize that you the same weak republicans you have no respect for.