Herman Cain: No Muslims in my Cabinet


Herman Cain says that he’s not going to allow any Muslims in his Cabinet or would he pick one to be a federal Judge:

Doug Mataconis over at Outside The Beltway has already labeled Herman Cain a bigot for discrimination. But I’m guessing he would also say that we should wait for Iran to nuke someone to do something about their nuclear weapons.

Herman Cain is not a bigot and he is right to say that there is a stealth Jihad/Sharia trying to be pushed on America, just as it is being pushed on France, England, and the better part of the Middle East. And remember, Cain was just asked about his Cabinet and the whether he would nominate a Muslim as a Federal Judge.

Personally I wouldn’t have stated it in the general way he did, but perhaps that’s because Cain has more gonads than I do. It will be easily twisted and I predict he’ll have to clarify.

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  • I LOVE this guy. For me, he is a very, very close second.

    • Drew

      Please please PLEASE tell me that your first is not Sarah Palin. Please. Please. Please.

      • Anonymous

        You sound scared – lol!

      • Please please PLEASE tell me your first choice isn’t any of the spineless GOP boys…or Ron Paul.

        Yes, my first choice is Gov. Sarah Palin! As a woman, a student and an independent, I would be honored to support her if she chooses to run.

        PS. I donate to her PAC. I hope you’re not too sad.

        • Anonymous

          Detroit:
          Loved your reply! 🙂

          • Thanks Philly, hopefully Drew sees the light soon.

    • Mary Beth House

      He’s my close second too.

  • Annie

    I enjoy clear speaking people who say what they think and are able to explain it. Kudos to Herman Cain on this one.

  • Publius

    This is a big mistake, Herman.
    It is one thing not to nominate a Muslim. It is quite another to say in advance, you never would. What if he said he would never nominate a white person, etc? These comments will dog him from here on out.

    • Anonymous

      He was asked a question. He answered it. Would you prefer he would lie?

      • KeninMontana

        It was a set up question, an ambush,did you happen to see the logo in the upper right corner of the video? I’m pretty sure that reads Think Progress, that could only mean the left is scared to play the “Race Card” on Cain so now just you watch they will play the “Religious Bigot Card” instead. They will scream from the rooftops that Cain is anti First Amendment and a hate monger.

      • Anonymous

        The fallout from PC in US and the world has played a huge part in the mess in which we find ourselves. At this point in the process, there is no easy answer to unravel and/or cut through the insidious mindset manipulation that has been intentionally foisted upon us for over a century – but his answer is on the path of doing that very thing. That said – I think he just bought himself a bunch of problems and gave the LSM hounding points.

      • Publius

        No, I’d prefer he wasn’t a bigot.

    • Anonymous

      He was asked a question. He answered it. Would you prefer he would lie?

    • sDee

      West is more careful in choosing his words. Islamists are the problem.

    • “White persons, etc” are not bound to barbaric behavior; Muslims are. The Koran specifies the treatment of women, gays, those who offend family honor, etc. Islam demands loyalty to Allah, period, as laid out in the Koran. The aforementioned behaviors are against the US Constitution, and many US laws. Ergo, Muslims are ineligible to serve in many, if not all, federal positions. Curious to me how feminists, gays, dissidents miss or ignore how their interest groups are treated in Muslim lands (at their peril, methinks). Thank God for the Food Chain, which deals with this stuff, somewhat slowly, but surely…

  • Publius

    This is a big mistake, Herman.
    It is one thing not to nominate a Muslim. It is quite another to say in advance, you never would. What if he said he would never nominate a white person, etc? These comments will dog him from here on out.

  • Publius

    This is a big mistake, Herman.
    It is one thing not to nominate a Muslim. It is quite another to say in advance, you never would. What if he said he would never nominate a white person, etc? These comments will dog him from here on out.

  • We HAVE to get this guy in the White House !

  • Anonymous

    Love the Herminator. I have a feeling he won’t let Radicals or Communists his cabinet either!

    • KeninMontana

      I like him too, however I can’t help the sinking feeling from this video that he just scuttled his own campaign before he cleared the harbor.

      • Anonymous

        It probably would have been smarter to single out Sharia, but he’s a conservative, it doesn’t matter if he says something about Islam or something about green jelly beans; the media will distort and run with whatever they can. With the way our media works, we won’t remember this in 2 years.

        • Anonymous

          Just because a person/group is going to stab you in the back doesn’t mean you should hand them the knife…

      • Ken,
        Islam, via the Divine Revelations given in the Koran, requires behaviors toward certain groups (gays,women, offenders of family honor, etc) that are ILLEGAL in the US. Those who are bound to such behavior are INELIGIBLE to serve in most, if not all, gov’t posts. Any other argument is irrelevant. Curious to me how members of those groups in the US miss or ignore this (at their peril, methinks).

        • KeninMontana

          I am very aware of Islam’s idiosyncrasies and what it requires of its adherents. My point has to do with giving your opposition any more “ammo” than they already have.

    • Anonymous

      The Hermanator-love it!

  • Herman Cain … Allen West … Geert Wilders…

    Which current American elected politician who aspires to be POTUS speaks as clearly as Geert Wilders does about political and religious Islam?

    Herman Cain, for one.

    Is there another wanna be politician, male or female, who has the fire in the belly to be an elected politician in 2012 who has taken the public square soap box to speak to American voters about the threat facing America, our U.S. Constitution and our 235 years of a “superior” way of life, compared to the 1400 years of Islamic tyranny everywhere it is tried… uh, I mean, imposed… by convert or die ultimatums?

    The “superior” reference is from Geert Wilders speech in Rome, 25 March 2011, at the Annual Lecture of the Magna Carta Foundation.

    “The Failure of Multiculturalism and How to Turn the Tide”

    Pamela Geller has it posted in its entirety at her blog Atlas Shrugs –
    >> http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/03/geert-wilders-remarks-to-the-magna-carta-foundtion-.html

    Geert Wilder’s speech in Rome should be sent to all POTUS aspirants, and they should be asked to publically comment, with full sentences, just like Congressman Allen West and Herman Cain.

    One quote from Wilder’s speech in Rome –

    “Another thing which we should do is support Muslims who want to leave Islam.
    “An International Women’s Day is useless in the Arab world if there is no International Leave Islam Day.
    “I propose the introduction of such a day … .”

    […]

    “It is very easy to become a Muslim.
    “All one has to do is to pronounce the Shahada, the Islamic creed, which says – I quote
    >>>>“There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”<<<>>>>>>>>>“I leave Islam and join humankind.”<<<<<<<<<<

    Art
    Only the name of YHWH (YaHWeH) can counter the name of Allah to … STOP! Islamization Of America … with our informed biblical free speech and political action

    • Anonymous

      Knowledge is power and the more people realize and understand WHAT is going on with the insidiousness of Multiculturalism and the radicalization of the US, Canada, Great Britain and Europe, the more they will speak out.

      Politicians like Geert Wilders and David Cameron (who decried multiculturalism) are few and far between and should be applauded, not crucified.

      For an idea of how Great Britain became radicalized, Melanie Phillips book “Londinistan” http://www.melaniephillips.com/londonistan/ provides background along with another one of her books “The World Turned Upside Down”. http://www.melaniephillips.com/

      • “… should be applauded…”

        Excellent point Linky1 –

        One way for POTUS aspirants to “applaud” Geert Wilders is to mention his “point-of-the-spear” comments in his March 25, 2001 speech in Rome…

        >> http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/03/geert-wilders-remarks-to-the-magna-carta-foundtion-.html

        … and to do so with direct quotes, not simply tangentially referencing “terrorism” or Islam or generic “women’s rights” or sharia.

        – Melanie Phillips in England
        – Caroline Glick in Israel http://www.carolineglick.com/
        – Diana West in USA http://www.dianawest.net/
        – Pamela Geller in USA
        – Nonie Darwish in USA
        – Phyllis Chesler in USA

        and many more ladies in Europe and USA are applauding Geert Wilders on their blogs and news outlets… but WHERE ARE THE AMERICAN POLITICIANS?????

        Maybe we should publically ask people who know
        – Sarah Palin
        – New Gingrich
        – Herman Cain
        – Allen West
        – Ron Paul
        – Rand Paul
        – Rudy Giuliani
        – Michele Bachmann
        – Bobby Jindal
        – Rick Perry
        – Marco Rubio
        – Donald Trump
        – Chris Christie

        to send them a copy of Geert Wilders’ newest speech and give Wilders a public and verbal pat on the back on behalf of all FREE people.

        Maybe I should make one correction…

        Gov. Chris Christie appointed a Muslim judge who supports sharia law having a say in U.S. courts, so we know Gov. Christie would NOT give Geert Wilders a “pat on the back” for us.

        Art
        The name of YHWH (YaHWeH) vs. the name of Allah is our best spiritual defense to … STOP! Islamization Of America … with our informed free religious speech and informed political action

        • Anonymous

          Excellent post, ajtelles!

          I’m not American (I’m Canadian) and we are in the throes of an unwanted election here.

          Canada is the bastion of multiculturalism and FYI, here is some info on how we got to the place we got to. (It’s my knowledge is power thing)

          http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/03/23/david-frum-the-disastrous-legacy-of-pierre-trudeau/

          Mention the name Pierre Trudeau to right thinking Canadians and you will get a volley of curse words a mile long.

          Our gutless so-called conservative politicians from the Prime Minister on down are to damned scared to speak out and do something about multiculturalism and how it has affected the fabric of Canadian life. Me-I had planned to give this election a wide berth this time aroundbut after reading this post, may rethink my position and question my local Conservative candidate as to hi sposition on this rather touchy subject.

          I live on the West Cast of Canada and we have had (over the past couple of years) two boatloads of so-called refuges who were really Tamil Tigers (on the government watch list here). So far, most have been cleared and have dissapeared into the underground of Vancouver and Toronto. Because of our liberal refugee policies over the last 40 or so years, this has gone on unchecked and no one has the guts to address it.

          Refugee issues, radicalization of North America-it’s up to we, the people (whatever country we live in) to put these questions to our politicians – see if they will pay more tha lip service, to man up like Geert Wilders and see if they have the guts to take a stand.

          • Pussycat0521

            Trudeau DESTROYED Canada. Yet that anti-English, anti-capitalist, anti-American bisexual evil troll is canonized by the left to this day. As a white, conservative, 7th generation Canadian, I see my rights being taking away from me by the PC police, self-loathing white liberals and the any-language-but-English; any-culture-but-the European-one crowd usurp this once great nation. Harper is the best of the last 6 prime ministers that we have had. Immigration will NEVER be halted in Canada. The Reform party tried, and they were destroyed by the usual ‘racist’ labels. Even the last bastian city of conservatism in Canada, Calgary, elected a Moslem mayor. It is too late to save us.

            • Anonymous

              Harper has the ghost of Trudeau to contend with as he has capitulated to the limousine liberals here who still thing they are the “natural governing party.”

              Heck, a 2nd generation Trudeau is already being groomed for leadership and he sure is daddy’s boy saying “the government should not call honour killings “barbaric” in a study guide for would-be Canadian citizens.” Instead he says that honor killings should be deemed “absolutely unacceptable” http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/03/14/17610021.html

              I am a white female Conservative Canadian (a REAL minorityy here) who like you, is fed up with political correctness, the PC police, the Charter of Wrongs and Non-Freedoms that are negative, not positive and ha a clause for hate speech – just ask Mark Steyn or Ann Coulter.

              I have nothing against immigration-in fact, I welcome it (my mother is an immigrant-now a Canadian Citizen), but not the way it is set up now. Come here, bring your talent, your skills, work hard, make a good life in Canada but do not jump the queue, cry discrimination, or expect the state to take care of you.

              I’m not optimistic that Harper will gain his majority to govern properly as long as the bastion of liberalism – Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver cast votes. Even if Haprer does get a majority, will he stand up for Canadians in the same way Allen West, Herman Cain, Michele Bachman and Sarah Palin stand up for Americans?

        • KeninMontana

          I think we all know where Allen West is on the subject,don’t you think? He has made his views on Radical Islam and Sharia abundantly clear.

          • Allen West…

            Yes, his views are clear.

            I wonder if anyone close to him will ask him to comment with direct quotes from Geert Wilders’ speech in Rome? Maybe he can comment on the “counter-Shahada” quote.

            A quote from Wilders’ Rome speech –

            “It is very easy to become a Muslim.
            “All one has to do is to pronounce the Shahada, the Islamic creed, which says – I quote
            >>>>“There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”<<<>>>>>>>>>“I leave Islam and join humankind.”<<<<<<<<<<

            Art
            The name of Yahweh (YHWH) vs. the name of Allah is our best spiritual defense to … STOP! Islamization Of America … with our informed free religious speech and informed political action

  • objective analysis

    He don’t have to clarify jack. Musims are trying to convert the U.S. to Sharia law. It is happening everywhere. He is SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Truth hurts and does not have to be politically correct.

    This is another version of the Last Crusade of the middle ages. Christians are about to fight back against the Moors all over again in the 21st century.

    So let it be written…. so let it be done.

  • Anonymous

    He is telling the truth. Would we have put a German or NAZI in government when Hitler was in power?

  • KeninMontana

    I would have just smiled and told them I think it’s a bit premature to be making those sort of appointment decisions. Talk to me about that after the elections. Done deal, no lies no dodge just a statement.

    • Yeah I worry a bit about that too.

      • The Light of Truth can dispel worry, so here you go- The Koran specifies the treatment of women, gays, those who offend family honor, etc. Islam demands loyalty to Allah, period, as laid out in the Koran. The aforementioned behaviors are against the US Constitution, and many US laws. Ergo, Muslims are ineligible to serve in many, if not all, federal positions. Curious to me how feminists, gays, dissidents miss or ignore how their interest groups are treated in Muslim lands (at their peril, methinks). Thank God for the Food Chain, which deals with this stuff, somewhat slowly, but surely…
        Hope this helps.

    • BigM

      I agree. However, when one blazes a trail with strong convictions that resonates with the popular opinion, one would think his backside is covered.

      Webster’s definition of trailblazer: An innovative leader in a field; a pioneer.

      Do we really want to regurgitate another PC Politician for 2012?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get how he could just dismiss a whole group like that outright. Why doesn’t he just say he won’t appoint a radical Islamist or something, that would be good enough. There may come along an otherwise qualified job candidate, who happens to be Muslim, and the Hermanator would discriminate against them no matter how well they could perform.

    He should base his nominations on the individual, not what other members of the collective group have done.

    • Persephone

      Muslims think that we are fools for using ‘Political Correctiness’.
      Under Islam, it is okay prey on the foolishness of non-muslims.

      • Anonymous

        I think we’re foolish for using Political Correctness too.

        I also think it’s foolish to condemn a whole group of people for what the radical elements do.

        • Anonymous

          Would you find it foolish to condemn a group of people who state an allegiance to a cause but then claim they don’t agree with the stated beliefs of the cause?

          Two examples that come to mind in the context of religion are Jews For Jesus and Catholics who say they are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-women priests.

          One basic tenant of the Jewish faith is the belief in the Messiah. They’re still waiting for him. Jews don’t believe that Jesus Christ was him. Pretty simple. So a group calling itself “Jews for Jesus” is not taken seriously by any Jew, much less the truly devout Jew. Right? You wouldn’t argue with that, would you?

          Same with Catholics who claim to be working to “reform” the Catholic church when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, and women in the priesthood. No true Catholic takes them seriously because they are advocating for things that are antithetical to the basic faith. And no, liberals who call themselves Catholic are not true Catholics. They just get away with calling themselves that because Catholics don’t go around killing heretics anymore.

          The difference with Islam is that it’s based on exactly what the terrorists and so-called “extremists” and “radicals” are doing. People say that Islam needs a “reformation”. Well, you’re looking at it. This is it. The “radical” Muslim movement that’s been going on in the Muslim world for the last hundred years or so is exactly the Reformation needed to get Islam back to it’s roots. That’s really what this is all about.

          Every Muslim believes what the terrorists are doing is justified. If they don’t believe that, they are not Muslim. It’s what Islam is based on. The difference from person to person in the Muslim faith is what degree do they take that belief. Do they actively fight in the front lines of the war? Do they fight a more stealth battle another way? Or do they simply support the effort by doing nothing? But they all believe. That’s what makes them Muslim.

          Not all Germans were Nazi’s. But all Nazi’s are Nazi’s. It’s wrong to attack a race or nationality by association. But Islam is not a race or nationality. Muslims come in every shape, size, and color. But they all believe that Islam is the only true religion and that all other religions are an insult and threat to Islam and it is their duty to fight anyway they can to make sure Islam dominates the world.

          Don’t forget that. Because it’s true.

          • BigM

            Jaynie…well said, and I would add the following:

            Being a believer and a daily follower of Jesus Christ, if I were to say that I only believe and live by certain parts of the bible, in the end I know full well that I will answer to GOD and my salvation is certainly coming into question.

            Secondly, the same can be said about any religion. You will either believe & live by every word in the doctrine of that religion or walk as Hippocrates of the faith.

            And one can only assume that the “Good Muslims” either live in stealth of their faith…or live in total fear of the radicals. Because you can not say you are a good Muslim in one breath and not openly condemn {an Imam for example} the radicals you are asked about their goals to conform all infidels.

            • Anonymous

              I’m not sure I understand your reply. You say “Because you can not say you are a good Muslim in one breath and not openly condemn {an Imam for example} the radicals you are asked about their goals to conform all infidels.”

              A Muslim can most certainly say they are a good Muslim in one breath and not openly condemn terrorism and extremism in the name of Islam. Islam is based on war and fighting unbelievers. Muslims are admonished to look to Mohammed as a role model today. Mohammed was no Jesus Christ. Muslims don’t believe in turning the other cheek and loving their enemies.

              You’re on the internet. Go read what Muslims themselves say about Islam. They don’t try to hide it, they’re proud to be Muslims. I suggest you read up a little on Islam. It is not at all like Christianity. Don’t ascribe your belief system to them because they are totally different.

              • BigM

                My first reply was meant to be in agreement to your post. 😀 We’re on the same page here.

                • Anonymous

                  That line about being a “good” Muslim had me not so sure. Thanks for clarifying.

              • I think what BigM was saying is that they will be KILLED if they do that. And kudos to you for my quote of the day:

                Mohammed was no Jesus Christ

          • KeninMontana

            “Catholics who say they are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-women priests.” I believe they call those Episcopalians. 🙂

          • KeninMontana

            “Catholics who say they are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-women priests.” I believe they call those Episcopalians. 🙂

        • ALL Muslims are bound to obey the Koran as Divinely revealed to Mohammed, the one true Prophet of Allah. The required treatment of women, gays, and others is ILLEGAL in the US. Those who are so bound aretherefore NOT ALLOWED to serve in most, if not all, gov’t positions

    • Anonymous

      You have lots to learn about islam.

      • Anonymous

        Do you lump all violent non-state Muslim groups together as some amorphous singular entity called “Radical Islam.”

        Most Americans conflate Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Mujahidee-e Khalq, PJAK, and the Al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade as somehow the same thing with the same goals.

        • Anonymous

          That “Like” as a mistake. I meant to hit Reply.

          There is no such thing as non “radical” Islam. Most people refer to it as “moderate” Islam and are on a constant search for that elusive “moderate” Muslim. There is no such thing.

          Women and gays. Gotcha. No getting around that one.

          • Anonymous

            Hmm, so Jundallah is a specifically Muslim organization, they are non-state, and they are violent. Would you put Jundallah in the exact same category as Al Qaeda?

            How about the Mujahidee-e Khulq? Are they identical in your eyes to the Sunni insurgents in Iraq?
            What about the PLO? Do you lump them in together with Hamas?
            Do you lump Hamas with Hezbollah?
            The Al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade? Are they the same as the Badr Brigades?
            Are the Badr Brigades the same as the Mahdi Army?
            Are any of those groups the same as the SSP?
            The Salafist Takfiri?

            • Anonymous

              Would you give a second look to some group that had the word “Nazi” in it’s name or claimed all the other Nazi’s were “perverting” their Nazi beliefs?

              Would you? Would you expend as much energy defending “peaceful” and “non-violent” Nazi groups as you do Muslim groups?

              Your Google skills are wasted because you don’t understand the links that come up in your attempt to defend a political ideology that is determined to dominate the world by any means necessary. Your hatred of the West has blinded you to who you really should be concerned about.

              • Anonymous

                You really are a stupid human being. I’m amazed you remember to breathe.

                Evidence of this?
                1. You think I’m defending them.
                2. You think it’s all google.
                3. You conflate groups that driven by their hatred of Shi’ites, or hate Sunnis, or are MARXISTS with the radical Sunni global conquest ideology of Al Qaeda.
                4. You think I hate the west.

                It’s truly a wonder you made it to the age you have.

                Red Herring with that nonsense about “Nazi” being in the name of something by the way. If you wanted to properly use Nazism and distinctions as an analogy to the groups I listed you should have asked if I draw a distinction between Nazis, Bolsheviks, Fascists, Syndicalists, Trotskyists, and Stalinists. And the answer would be “Damn right I do, the differences are significant.”

                I never said any of those groups were non-violent, by the way. They are all violent, but their goals and motivations are very diverse, idiot.

                • Anonymous

                  Ooooh! I hit a nerve, did I? Good.

                  I will counter your attempt to excuse Islam every time you try it. No matter how much it hurts your wittle feelings.

                • Anonymous

                  Hurt? No. Saddened? Yes, one would hope that someone of your age would have learned to think at some point in your life.

                  I’ve never once seen you actually address the points in anyone’s posts you’ve responded to that you disagree with. All you do is make personal attacks in place of “arguments” and toss out unrelated nonsense as though you were making a relevant or coherent point.

                  So I’ll clarify, since you seem to be a little slow or have reading comprehension problems. None of those groups I listed were non-violent, I never claimed they were, I didn’t defend anything, all I’ve done is point to how lazy thinkers like you blindly lump all groups of muslims together and call them the same thing.

                  If it doesn’t get through your skull this time, it never will. I hope you have very little influence on your kid.

                • Anonymous

                  For the benefit of others reading this: Dan knows full well that I only reply to him to counter his stupid anti-Western liberal/libertarian bull*shit. I stopped trying to reason with people like Dan many, many, moons ago.

                • Anonymous

                  You never try to reason. You only skim the words people post and come to an often incorrect conclusion of their meaning, then make unsupported assumptions about their character and beliefs on every other topic whether it is related or unrelated. You then leap from that weak understanding and baseless assumptions and decide that the person is either anti-America/anti-west (for all time), or agree with you and thus not anti-America/anti-west for the time being.

                  Just to further make my point.
                  The Mujahideen-e Khulq is a Marxist-Muslim militant organization that is in the employ of the United States government to execute terrorism in Iran, killing Iranians, and opposing the Mullahs.

                  The Badr Brigades are the militant supporters of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq via Abdul Aziz Al-Hakim. Their leaders were Iraqi traitors that defected to Iran in the Iran-Iraq war and proved their loyalty by torturing Iraqi POWs in the hands of Iran.

                  You lump those two together and call them the same thing.

                  The Mahdi army is the militant Shi’ite militia under Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq. Sadr, though a Shi’ite, was a strident Iraqi Nationalist, and looked to ally with the Sunni insurgency to fight the Iranian puppet factions that wanted to split Iraq apart to establish a Shi’ite state. He openly decried the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq “traitors” several times. He is still an Iraqi Nationalist but has declared that if the US bombs Iran that the Shi’ites of Iraq will rise up against the US military still in Iraq.

                  You lump those people in with the other two and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Jundallah is a militant Sunni Baluchistan separatist group in Iran and Pakistan that is violent against the Shi’ite regime and aims for Sunni rights in the theocratic State. They are also on the payroll of the United States government for the purpose of causing chaos in Iran in what Robert Bear calls the “Mad Max Approach.” They are fans of kidnapping people like police officers and executing them.

                  You lump those people in with the other three and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Hamas was created by Mossad to be the right-wing competition for those Marxist left-wingers in the PLO. Have entered negotiations and participated in the democratic process. They also want nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and have hunted down groups in Gaza with Al Qaeda-like ideologies. Much to the chagrin of Ayman al-Zawahiri.

                  You lump them in with the other four and somehow call them the same thing.

                  PJAK is a militant nationalist Kurd group that is also on the payroll of the United States government. They execute attacks against just about all of their non-Kurdish neighbors, but the US pays them for their attacks into Iran.

                  You lump them in with the other five and somehow call them all the same thing.

                  Do you get the point yet? That is just off of the top of my head. Your lazy thinking about the different groups, motivations, and goals across the Middle East is not a virtue, it’s something to be a shamed of

                • Anonymous

                  I didn’t read your post. I’m just replying to the first sentence.

                  I never try to reason with the likes of you anymore. It’s pointless. All I try to do is expose your anti-American, anti-Western hatred for what it is. If that upsets you then I suggest you stop defending Islam.

                • Anonymous

                  “I didn’t read your post. I’m just replying to the first sentence.”

                  Exactly, thank you for proving my point.

                • Anonymous

                  You never try to reason. You only skim the words people post and come to an often incorrect conclusion of their meaning, then make unsupported assumptions about their character and beliefs on every other topic whether it is related or unrelated. You then leap from that weak understanding and baseless assumptions and decide that the person is either anti-America/anti-west (for all time), or agree with you and thus not anti-America/anti-west for the time being.

                  Just to further make my point.
                  The Mujahideen-e Khulq is a Marxist-Muslim militant organization that is in the employ of the United States government to execute terrorism in Iran, killing Iranians, and opposing the Mullahs.

                  The Badr Brigades are the militant supporters of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq via Abdul Aziz Al-Hakim. Their leaders were Iraqi traitors that defected to Iran in the Iran-Iraq war and proved their loyalty by torturing Iraqi POWs in the hands of Iran.

                  You lump those two together and call them the same thing.

                  The Mahdi army is the militant Shi’ite militia under Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq. Sadr, though a Shi’ite, was a strident Iraqi Nationalist, and looked to ally with the Sunni insurgency to fight the Iranian puppet factions that wanted to split Iraq apart to establish a Shi’ite state. He openly decried the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq “traitors” several times. He is still an Iraqi Nationalist but has declared that if the US bombs Iran that the Shi’ites of Iraq will rise up against the US military still in Iraq.

                  You lump those people in with the other two and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Jundallah is a militant Sunni Baluchistan separatist group in Iran and Pakistan that is violent against the Shi’ite regime and aims for Sunni rights in the theocratic State. They are also on the payroll of the United States government for the purpose of causing chaos in Iran in what Robert Bear calls the “Mad Max Approach.” They are fans of kidnapping people like police officers and executing them.

                  You lump those people in with the other three and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Hamas was created by Mossad to be the right-wing competition for those Marxist left-wingers in the PLO. Have entered negotiations and participated in the democratic process. They also want nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and have hunted down groups in Gaza with Al Qaeda-like ideologies. Much to the chagrin of Ayman al-Zawahiri.

                  You lump them in with the other four and somehow call them the same thing.

                  PJAK is a militant nationalist Kurd group that is also on the payroll of the United States government. They execute attacks against just about all of their non-Kurdish neighbors, but the US pays them for their attacks into Iran.

                  You lump them in with the other five and somehow call them all the same thing.

                  Do you get the point yet? That is just off of the top of my head. Your lazy thinking about the different groups, motivations, and goals across the Middle East is not a virtue, it’s something to be a shamed of

                • Anonymous

                  You never try to reason. You only skim the words people post and come to an often incorrect conclusion of their meaning, then make unsupported assumptions about their character and beliefs on every other topic whether it is related or unrelated. You then leap from that weak understanding and baseless assumptions and decide that the person is either anti-America/anti-west (for all time), or agree with you and thus not anti-America/anti-west for the time being.

                  Just to further make my point.
                  The Mujahideen-e Khulq is a Marxist-Muslim militant organization that is in the employ of the United States government to execute terrorism in Iran, killing Iranians, and opposing the Mullahs.

                  The Badr Brigades are the militant supporters of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq via Abdul Aziz Al-Hakim. Their leaders were Iraqi traitors that defected to Iran in the Iran-Iraq war and proved their loyalty by torturing Iraqi POWs in the hands of Iran.

                  You lump those two together and call them the same thing.

                  The Mahdi army is the militant Shi’ite militia under Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq. Sadr, though a Shi’ite, was a strident Iraqi Nationalist, and looked to ally with the Sunni insurgency to fight the Iranian puppet factions that wanted to split Iraq apart to establish a Shi’ite state. He openly decried the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq “traitors” several times. He is still an Iraqi Nationalist but has declared that if the US bombs Iran that the Shi’ites of Iraq will rise up against the US military still in Iraq.

                  You lump those people in with the other two and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Jundallah is a militant Sunni Baluchistan separatist group in Iran and Pakistan that is violent against the Shi’ite regime and aims for Sunni rights in the theocratic State. They are also on the payroll of the United States government for the purpose of causing chaos in Iran in what Robert Bear calls the “Mad Max Approach.” They are fans of kidnapping people like police officers and executing them.

                  You lump those people in with the other three and somehow call them the same thing.

                  Hamas was created by Mossad to be the right-wing competition for those Marxist left-wingers in the PLO. Have entered negotiations and participated in the democratic process. They also want nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and have hunted down groups in Gaza with Al Qaeda-like ideologies. Much to the chagrin of Ayman al-Zawahiri.

                  You lump them in with the other four and somehow call them the same thing.

                  PJAK is a militant nationalist Kurd group that is also on the payroll of the United States government. They execute attacks against just about all of their non-Kurdish neighbors, but the US pays them for their attacks into Iran.

                  You lump them in with the other five and somehow call them all the same thing.

                  Do you get the point yet? That is just off of the top of my head. Your lazy thinking about the different groups, motivations, and goals across the Middle East is not a virtue, it’s something to be a shamed of

                • KeninMontana

                  There is nothing anti western about Libertarianism, truth is Libertarian Philosophy is closer to what the Founder’s intended than Conservatism is. To lump Libertarians in with Liberals shows a lack of knowledge and understanding of the principles and beliefs of these philosophies. Much like your attacks on Daniel, you assume he is defending something when he is pointing out something that does in fact need to be understood. Not bothering to read and understand his post shows that you probably didn’t bother to look at the obvious and stark differences between Libertarians and Liberals, you only saw “Liber” made your conclusion and have run with it since.

                • Anonymous

                  Nice try. Libertarians are the political version of agnostics. I have no use for them, either.

                  You make the same mistake Dan makes. You assume that since I refuse to read his insipid, unoriginal, completely predictable pablum that I haven’t heard it all before. I have, and he’s not particularly good at it. Trust me, I’ve wasted more time on much better idiots than him.

                  Call yourself a Libertarian if you want to. I’m sure that gives you the sanctimonious platform needed to judge others. I’ll stick to conservatism. I prefer people who are realistic about human nature.

                • KeninMontana

                  Wow , bitter much? You should really take a look in the mirror and reread some of your posts on this site before throwing this at anyone, “I’m sure that gives you the sanctimonious platform needed to judge others.”

                • Anonymous

                  I don’t have a problem judging others. I don’t pretend not to be judging others. That’s what agnostics and libertarians do. They get off on judging both sides as they sit back and pretend to be above it all. Nah, that’s not for me. Obviously. Thanks for noticing.

                • KeninMontana

                  I’m pretty sure you have no problems with judging others.

                • KeninMontana

                  Wow , bitter much? You should really take a look in the mirror and reread some of your posts on this site before throwing this at anyone, “I’m sure that gives you the sanctimonious platform needed to judge others.”

        • Anonymous

          btw I made the same mistake with the ”like”.

          IMHO Jaynie is stating that “… (believe) their duty to fight anyway they can to make sure Islam dominates the world.” Operative phrase here is “anyway they can”.

          Most important is the stated goal of Islam. Myriads of different parts and pieces make up the tactical movements toward that goal – going under myriads of different names but all with the same destination. THIS has been their ultimate goal for over 1300 years!! They diligently teach it to their children from birth and have been for centuries.

          • Anonymous

            Irrelevant, see my post where I actually list basic details about the activities and aims of 6 of those organizations.

            One of those was that it’s ridiculous to consider Hamas and Al Qaeda the same when they hate each other to the point of killing each other off.

            Then there’s the MEK and Badr Brigades. One opposes the Iranian Ayatollahs and kills Iranians, the other is a force under the Ayatollah’s political puppets in Iran. Not to mention that one is bankrolled by the United States, that’s right, the US funds Muslim terrorism, Marxist-Muslim terrorism no less.

            • Anonymous

              There has been infighting and tribal wars in Islam for as long as it has existed.

              If you examine closely the common thread running in most if not all of these groups/factions it turns out to be the same. World domination by any means possible – even in the sect that leans toward the metaphysical (the name slips my mind) although they are the most non–violent of all.

              • Anonymous

                As I said to Jaynie, trying to lump them together as somehow the same would be to say that Nazism, Fascism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, Marxism, and Bolshevism are all the same. In both batches of ideologies, they hate and kill each other the most.

                Yes, and do you really think they would be bothering with anyone beyond Anatolia if US foreign policy wasn’t giving them an aggressive common enemy and prime targets to shoot at?

                • Anonymous

                  “Yes, and do you really think they would be bothering with anyone beyond Anatolia if US foreign policy wasn’t giving them an aggressive common enemy and prime targets to shoot at?”

                  I’m a little reluctant to comment on them going outside of SE Asia because they have before – ask anyone who knows the history of the US Marines.

                  In the present time frame – probably not with violent action but IMHO their direction/goal has and will always be the same as I stated earlier.

                  With both US foreign policy and subsequent actions are very risky/dangerous games to play. I haven’t found anything yet in either that I agree with or think is wise. The US is giving them fuel to do further their cause.

                  Btw My study of Islam has been mostly in the area of their belief system – which started years before 911. But since 2001, I have paid attention to their politics – strategy and tactics, etc.

                • Anonymous

                  Eh, since the I think the Muslims are too divided and the hatreds are too inflamed to unify like under the caliphates again. Even in Iraq, Sadr wanted to work with the Sunnis to kill his fellow Shi’ites.

                  After Barbary Wars, the US has no conflict with Islam until the US started messing with their lives.

                  In all honesty, in the absence of “violent action.” I don’t care how many Muslims there are. I oppose their claims to dominion of my person for the same reasons I oppose the claims of governments.

                  I would like to see a redistribution of power as well, and have it vested back in the Individual.

    • Islam, via Koran, REQUIRES behaviors that are ILLEGAL six ways from Sunday in the US. Upholding the law and the Constitution is not discrimination. This flap clearly demonstrates Herman’s point about leftist “S.I.N.” Tactics:
      Shift the topic: It’s not about religion, it’s about legality
      Ignore the facts: It’s not about religion, it’s about legality
      Name Call: It’s not “bigotry”,”discrimination” or “intolerance” to uphold the law.

      Liberty demands vigilance. This is a perfect example.

      Freedom ain’t for dummies; at least not for long…

      Maybe Rush can afford to have “half his brain tied behind his back” We cannot.

  • Anonymous

    He’s got the gonads to say what people are thinking.

    Let the critics pick at him for being a bigot/racist or whatever the slur of the day is with the progressives. Anyway he says it or tries to clarify it will be taken out of context anyway.

  • Persephone

    What so many people fail to understand…is that Islam=Islamic government.
    There is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state’ with Islam.
    It is one and the same!
    No separation…at all.

    Here are two reasons why Herman Cain is right:
    1. Muslims are fobidden to swear allegiance to a country which is not under Islamic Law.
    2. Muslims are allowed to use ‘Al Taquiya’ with non-muslims…This is the practice of lying to will further the cause of Islam. They are allowed, even encouraged, to lie to infidels, in business, personal and governmental affairs.

    Herman Cain is great!
    I would vote for him.

  • Anonymous

    Why does he have to “clarify” anything? I think he was perfectly clear. He waffles on that, and sniffles around and apologizes…he turns into what we have now, and those like him.

    • EuropTravl

      I suspect he will backtrack. He will apologize.
      It was a dumb blanket statement to make. It has/will hurt him.

  • Anonymous

    But I’m guessing he would also say that we should wait for Iran to nuke someone to do something about their nuclear weapons.

    The fearmongering over Iran and Nuclear weapons is nonsense. It’s part of the propaganda campaign against the population under the US government’s thumb to gin up popular support for another war in another middle easter country at the behest of Israel. That’s illegal according to the US government’s own “laws” by the way.

    The news outlet contributing retired generals were gathered by the White House to sell the propaganda talking points on Iraq and Iran.
    The schematics of the missiles that the Iranian regime have build can’t house a nuclear warhead.
    The uranium in Iran is entirely accounted for and is not viable for use in a nuclear weapon.
    IAEA safeguards agreements have not once been violated, and the investigators have actually managed to prove a negative regarding the supported idea of Ayatollahs diverting nuclear materials to a weapons program.
    The Ayatollah’s even offered the entire nuclear program they are working on to the US along with ending their support for Hezbollah and Hamas through the Swiss prior to Afghanistan.

    http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Factsheets/English/sg_overview.html
    http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Infcircs/Others/infcirc214.pdf
    http://prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11539

  • John

    If he’s president, he can appoint whoever he wants. Just look at Obama with all the marxists, socialists and communists. Personally, I’d have absolutely no problem if a President Cain had no Muslims in his cabinet – and I suspect the vast majority of people wouldn’t either.

    Only the media would care and they’d try their best to make us care, too, no doubt.

  • jimstl

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he meant to do this on purpose. He knows he is going to have to rock the boat to get noticed. He also knows he only has 9 months to do so before the primaries kick into high gear.

    Throw a bomb on purpose, media jumps on it, and you milk it for all the free advertising and face time you can get.

    You may like it, you may not, but it is reality. Nice guys finish last in national politics.

  • The dems/progs say no one can beat obama in 2012, as if it’s inevitable. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ran this kenyan marxist in 2016, 2020 and beyond until he dies in office like FDR. President for life or should i say El presidente like in a banana republic.

  • Shawn

    He is my first, as West said he is not running

  • Herman, you are my hero !! Keep up the good work.

  • Anonymous

    Good for Herman Cain.
    He just keeps moving up the 2012 list.

  • Herman2012

    THANK YOU Herman Cain for saying what needs to be said. Americans aren’t stupid, and they know who the enemy is. Islamic fascists are political preditor under a “guise” of religion. It is not like any other religion in the world and some suggest that it shouldn’t be considered a religion just like nazism isn’t a religion. It is a trojan horse.

  • Anonymous

    I just watched a video of a brave Moslem woman standing up against one of those crazy/evil Moslem religious leaders. I admit this is rare, but it reminded me that they are not all bad.

    IMO – It’s wrong to pre-judge all Moslems because we see and hear most about the bad ones and their crazy religious leaders.

    I love Herman Cain, but this isn’t right. The woman I mentioned works along side Christians and they are friendly with each other with no ill will. Even if only ‘some’ of Moslems are not bad, we should resist grouping them all together.

    • Anonymous

      A voice of sanity emerges! You at least have my respect, Bill, for what it’s worth. Brace for hate.

    • Yes, he did group Muslims into a group by stating that they will not be in his cabinet and it would rule them out as a judge. However, you need to understand what he is doing in context! He wants their ideology to not be an influence in his policy. He wants equal treatment for Muslim and Christian alike. You can say what you want, but a true Christian will not try to force an agenda to outlaw Islam. It is fact that every Islamist country wants to outlaw Christianity. Cain is correct in his argument.

  • BigM

    I think there’s one thing we overlooked in this video. Look at the placement of the camera! Obviously it appears to be a hidden camera mounted on the chest somewhere. there is one instance where Herman’s hands come awfully close to the camera…not normal if one knows the camera is there. I think Herman had no clue there was a camera.

    Point is: His response to the question! When one thinks no one is looking, you see the true character of that person. If Mr. Cain knew there was a camera…would he have answered differently?? IDK but I’m confident his answer wouldn’t change.

    But I do know this, his response is what I hoped for and concur with. The man does note take a spoonful of “PC” medication daily like most politicians do.

    For those of you who feel this will be to his demise, I would simply say; “Have you forgotten that the American people are now wide awake!!!” The only people that will cry foul on this are the LEFT. The minority!!!

  • Quizzerdrew

    Herman Cain!

  • I agree 100% with Mr. Cain on this issue. The Islamization of the USA is happening. Several ‘honor killings’ have occurred right here in our country and nobody hears about it because the Liberal (P.C.) so called News covers it up. The Muslims have taken over parts of Europe and they don’t know what to do about it. Sharia Law is what every Muslim believes, fact. If they continue to grow in population here in the US we will have no choice but to let them have their way. I hope people wake up before it is to late. Herman is spot on, great post RS.

  • Islam itself HAS ALREADY “clarified- The Koran specifies the treatment of women, gays, those who offend family honor, etc. Islam demands loyalty to Allah, period, as laid out in the Koran. The aforementioned behaviors are against the US Constitution, and many US laws. Ergo, Muslims are ineligible to serve in many, if not all, federal positions. Curious to me how feminists, gays, dissidents miss or ignore how their interest groups are treated in Muslim lands (at their peril, methinks). Thank God for the Food Chain, which deals with this stuff, somewhat slowly, but surely…

  • Anonymous

    Drew over at Ace’s has already jumped on this. I was betting it would be Allah first, but I guess working second shift has it’s disadvantages.

  • I don’t know if there ever will be a president cain since obama and the dems will find a way to hold on to power forever. El Presidente/emir for life, like in the mid-east or a banana republic. Point of reference, FDR, power and control is an aphrodisiac.

  • I don’t know if there ever will be a president cain since obama and the dems will find a way to hold on to power forever. El Presidente/emir for life, like in the mid-east or a banana republic. Point of reference, FDR, power and control is an aphrodisiac.

  • Well said Mr Cain. I just wish our UK politicians had your insight.

    • Anonymous

      Likewise for our Canadian politicians.

  • Well said Mr Cain. I just wish our UK politicians had your insight.

  • RightOn

    Honest and Blunt. I love it.

  • Marshall

    He won’t need to worry about making appointments. He just sunk any ship he was looking to board for an election voyage. So all this is a moot point. Like the guy, but his 15 minutes are just about over.

    Message discipline matters. What we say, in public and private, matter if we plan on running for office in the federal government. This is his Sharron Angle moment. The ironic part: mainstream Republicans will use this statement to sink him if he comes close to getting any traction.

  • Dfullerton2112

    Herman Cain is the only one out there that has the balls to say what is really going on. Political correctness is going to be the death of this country. We need more Herman Cains!!!!

  • Dfullerton2112

    I truely believe that Herman Cain is the only person that has a real chance of beating Obama in 2012. Right off the top he will split the minority vote, and if were going to be honest that”s the only reason Oblah Blah is President instead of Hillary! And wouldn’t it be nice to finally put to bed the garbage about people not liking Obama because he’s Black?