Herman Cain takes on the goons at MSNBC

Last night after the debate, Cain went on MSNBC for an interview. First up, Al Sharpton to ask Herman Cain why he wanted to put women’s rights, voter’s rights, and civil rights in jeopardy by being a proponent of the 10th amendment. Guess you wouldn’t have seen that coming. Cain answered that very well, and in fact answer most of the questions very well. I didn’t like his semantic twist of the Chilean model, that it wasn’t privatization but rather personalization. I know he doesn’t want it demagogued to death with the word privatization, but to fight over semantics doesn’t help his cause. If anything, I just wouldn’t use the word privatization and instead would focus on the fact that it worked.

But overall I was very pleased at how he answered the questions, especially the one that targeted Reagan:

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  • Josh

    Wow. That took guts to go up against that panel. Thought Cain held his ground very well.

  • Josh

    Wow. That took guts to go up against that panel. Thought Cain held his ground very well.

  • Mark Smith

    I can’t watch 6 minutes of these people even if I like Herman Cain. The Republican candidates have got to ignore these rabid MSNBC dogs. They should be shun.

    Favorite line I read today (from Jonah Goldberg) (paraphrasing) “Only MSNBC would think anybody doesn’t die laughing when Al Sharpton tells the viewers what the moderates and independent voters want.”

    • It’s worth watching. Honestly, the MSDNC folks were cordial with the guy. They challenged him, but they didn’t disrespect him. In fact, I wish they’d be like that with every politician who comes on their network.

      • Mark Smith

        I did tune on for about 5 minutes to see UpChuck Todd via remote talking to the others in the studio and there was some type of delay. Special Ed Schultz (the worst dog on that station) asked a question and Chuck sat there silent looking into the camera with a look that said “What an idiot”. Special Ed actually looked embarrassed and after more moments of uncomfortable silence, UpChuck said “Oh, sorry, there’s a delay.”

      • Mark Smith

        I did tune on for about 5 minutes to see UpChuck Todd via remote talking to the others in the studio and there was some type of delay. Special Ed Schultz (the worst dog on that station) asked a question and Chuck sat there silent looking into the camera with a look that said “What an idiot”. Special Ed actually looked embarrassed and after more moments of uncomfortable silence, UpChuck said “Oh, sorry, there’s a delay.”

      • Mark Smith

        I did tune on for about 5 minutes to see UpChuck Todd via remote talking to the others in the studio and there was some type of delay. Special Ed Schultz (the worst dog on that station) asked a question and Chuck sat there silent looking into the camera with a look that said “What an idiot”. Special Ed actually looked embarrassed and after more moments of uncomfortable silence, UpChuck said “Oh, sorry, there’s a delay.”

      • Anonymous

        You want to bet if he wasn’t black they’d disrespect him continuously?

      • I agree. I thought both sides handled themselves well even if I disagree with the MSNBC crew.

    • I disagree, libs don’t go on FOX b/c they are scared and ashamed

      conservatives shouldn’t do the same, we can take over their own shows

  • Anonymous

    God bless that man for facing the worst, most vile tools of the left known to mankind.
    He did well facing the democrat talking points, one after the other.

    • Anonymous

      That is what needs to be done with evil. You face it.

  • Anonymous

    …9 9 9 I like it .”(period)

    P.S.Mr.Cain spoken from the heart

    • Anonymous

      I hate his 9/9/9 idea. I watched the debate, saw Cain on Greta, and now saw this clip. It’s a terrible idea. A 9% national sales tax? Oh, please. Do you want to pay 9% tax on a car? A house? A flat screen TV? On top of the state sales tax? And how long would it stay 9%? Yeah, about a week.

      • But yet you are okay giving almost half of your money in other taxes.

        • Anonymous

          No. I’m not. But I am not in favor of any kind of national sales tax or VAT or any other name for a consumption tax.

          • Anonymous

            VAT is worse than a sales tax because it taxes goods and materials at every transaction, from raw materials to final purchase. Central government holds it all and then certain intermediaries can apply for refund. Next best thing to a carbon tax in order to control and regulate free market trade.

          • Anonymous

            VAT is worse than a sales tax because it taxes goods and materials at every transaction, from raw materials to final purchase. Central government holds it all and then certain intermediaries can apply for refund. Next best thing to a carbon tax in order to control and regulate free market trade.

            • Anonymous

              I wonder why we are paying ANY taxes because we are not being represented…they are stealing our money, giving it to their favorites and pocketing the rest.

            • Anonymous

              I agree.

      • Jaynie where did you come up with that 9% national sales tax? He said nothing about a NST, he was talking about personal income tax. Now I see why Obama got elected, it’s people like you.

        • Anonymous

          Is this a joke?

        • Anonymous

          Cain adds sales tax in addition to personal and corp income tax. One more chokehold on the free market and you wallet. It will be 20-20-20 in less than 10 years

          • Stop demagoguing it. It will NEVER become a 20-20-20 because it transitions to LONG TERM Fair Tax reform that throws out the entire tax code, abolishes the IRS, repeals the 16th amendment, and forever ends the government’s ability to steal money out of your paycheck. 999 is just transitional, and eliminates all invisible embedded federals taxes on the goods you purchase, reducing the price of everything you pay for any way. You get proposed the only solution that takes power away from the government and gives it to the people, and you demagogue it? Whatever, some people never get it.

            • KenInMontana

              The Fair Tax? You mean the plan with the “prebates” that no one seems to be able to answer the question as to where the funds for those “prebates” are going to come from? The IRS won’t go away, oh they may change the name but they will still be around. BTW to repeal a Constitutional amendment requires a specific stand alone Constitutional amendment to do so. Case in point the 18th (Prohibition) had to be repealed by the addition of the 21st. The so called “Fair Tax” is nothing more than a thinly disguised redistributive scam, nothing more.

        • Anonymous

          Oh don’t be mean, Jaynie just got mixed up between 7% and 9%.

          • Anonymous

            Where did you get 7% from? Cain repeated his plan ad nauseam. 9% income tax. 9% corporate tax. 9% national sales tax.

            The stupidity of internet commenters never ceases to amaze me even though I bitch about it all the time.

            • Anonymous

              Ask Hank Hill. I was defending you, I thought he was being mean to you.

      • Anonymous

        Jaynie59,I like the idea because I pay 15% on every item I purchase I LIVE IN CANADA so 9% looks good to me.

      • GramSam

        Please go to HC website and read his 999 plan before you dismiss it.

    • Anonymous

      I hate his 9/9/9 idea. I watched the debate, saw Cain on Greta, and now saw this clip. It’s a terrible idea. A 9% national sales tax? Oh, please. Do you want to pay 9% tax on a car? A house? A flat screen TV? On top of the state sales tax? And how long would it stay 9%? Yeah, about a week.

  • Anonymous

    …9 9 9 I like it .”(period)

    P.S.Mr.Cain spoken from the heart

  • Herman does very well under attack. He and Newt and Santorum are the only ones- in my opinion-who actually address the question asked and don’t reply with canned responses. Newt is taken seriously as knowledgeable although not as a candidate. Cain and Santorum have excellent ideas but are ignored. Perry did fairly well with the attack…he needs to get his game on a bit better-and I’m sure he will.

    I wish Herman Cain was taken more seriously and had a chance- and I hope he at least gets some appointment in the cabinet.

  • Anonymous

    I disagree about the personalization/privatization thing if Chile actually has a government program. I don’t know enough about it to argue the point, but none of them really argued it, either.

    I watch a show on HGTV called Property Virgins and most of the episodes are filmed in and around Toronto Canada. I saw one episode where a woman ended up taking a loan out against her government retirement account to buy a house. It’s apparently like our Social Security system but the money goes into individual accounts. Or everybody has money in their own name in an account. That’s not privatization. The government still takes your money and controls it and you have no choice about where it goes or what is done with it.

    Social Security already does something similar. We all get those reports with our salary histories.

    I’m for privatization. Cain was right that the word is misused to demonize the idea.

    • Here is an article about it from the guy who created the system. Sounds like a good system too:

      http://t.co/mcx11rR

      • Anonymous

        Interesting.

    • Here is an article about it from the guy who created the system. Sounds like a good system too:

      http://t.co/mcx11rR

    • Anonymous

      I’m all for privatization (or personlization). Back in the day, municipalities actually could opt out of social security and Galveston TX, Bellevue WA (maybe more) took advantage of that, funded their own systems and operate in the black.
      When they can’t rob from Peter to pay Paul, the depositors don’t lose their investment. Which is why the Feds no longer allow anyone to opt out of the national programme.

    • Anonymous

      I’m all for privatization (or personlization). Back in the day, municipalities actually could opt out of social security and Galveston TX, Bellevue WA (maybe more) took advantage of that, funded their own systems and operate in the black.
      When they can’t rob from Peter to pay Paul, the depositors don’t lose their investment. Which is why the Feds no longer allow anyone to opt out of the national programme.

  • puma_for_life

    They showed him respect because he is black.

    • Dan

      is that racist…i think that is racist…yes…that sounds racist…and as i read it …it reads racist…the print its self is black and there for racist..racist print will not be tolerated… these comments about a black candidate using black print and insinuating that blacks asking blacks questions is ALL RACIST …DAM YOU RACIST….DAM ALL YOU RACIST TO OBAMA’S BOWLING LEAGUE

    • Dan

      is that racist…i think that is racist…yes…that sounds racist…and as i read it …it reads racist…the print its self is black and there for racist..racist print will not be tolerated… these comments about a black candidate using black print and insinuating that blacks asking blacks questions is ALL RACIST …DAM YOU RACIST….DAM ALL YOU RACIST TO OBAMA’S BOWLING LEAGUE

      • Anonymous

        LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! You are silly, Dan….you must be a racist. LOL!!!!!

        • Dan

          i hate black ink…….

    • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    It reminded me of a shooting gallery at a carnival. Four targets popped up and four targets shot down. (is this image too inflammatory?)

  • Dan

    i know these leftist pigs will ask the Liar in Chief tough questions too…and i am going to wait and watch all the tough questions that will be asked of our Dear Leader…and if they do i am sure the Thug in Chief will make each answer so long and convoluted that there will be no answer but will for all the words and lies he will use make total since to these fools

    • Anonymous

      Yes, they’ll ask the really difficult questions like:
      “Which do you prefer in the morning – cornflakes or shredded wheat?”
      “Who is your favorite pro golfer?”
      “Who would win a rap battle between Jay-Z and Ice T?”
      “Coke or Pepsi?”
      “When Michelle gets cranky do you rub her feet or give her ice cream?”
      “When are you going to pimp-out your bike and add a bell to the handlebars?”

    • Anonymous

      Yes, they’ll ask the really difficult questions like:
      “Which do you prefer in the morning – cornflakes or shredded wheat?”
      “Who is your favorite pro golfer?”
      “Who would win a rap battle between Jay-Z and Ice T?”
      “Coke or Pepsi?”
      “When Michelle gets cranky do you rub her feet or give her ice cream?”
      “When are you going to pimp-out your bike and add a bell to the handlebars?”

    • Anonymous

      Yes, they’ll ask the really difficult questions like:
      “Which do you prefer in the morning – cornflakes or shredded wheat?”
      “Who is your favorite pro golfer?”
      “Who would win a rap battle between Jay-Z and Ice T?”
      “Coke or Pepsi?”
      “When Michelle gets cranky do you rub her feet or give her ice cream?”
      “When are you going to pimp-out your bike and add a bell to the handlebars?”

  • Dan

    i know these leftist pigs will ask the Liar in Chief tough questions too…and i am going to wait and watch all the tough questions that will be asked of our Dear Leader…and if they do i am sure the Thug in Chief will make each answer so long and convoluted that there will be no answer but will for all the words and lies he will use make total since to these fools

  • Dax

    I don’t think they ever saw a black conservative before. All this time they thought he was white.

  • Anonymous

    999 is phase 1 of the fair tax he wants. As i have pointed out using actual figures, the plan will harm millions of seniors. In my case,I will lose 142 dollars per month on the fair tax plan, which was a tax @ 23%. If his 999 plan taxes all goods and services including rent and utilities, as the fair tax plan did, then the 999 plan would cost me 137 dollars per month. Either of these taxes would replace the income tax of zero dollars I now pay. My expenditures are 1525.00 per month under the fair tax plan and @23% my tax would be approx 350.00 per month less the 208.00 prebate. Since i haven’t heard of any prebate under 999, I must assume there isn’t one.

    • Anonymous

      Williamm, we’ve debated the FairTax before and I think we respectfully agreed to disagree. My question is, is there a proposal that you prefer? I think it’s beyond any doubt that we need to scrap the 70,000 pages of code that we have now – it’s strangling our economy. Would you prefer a flat tax? Is there a specific plan that you think would work? I love the FairTax but I’m open to any other proposals that are already in the works. I’m not being adversarial, I’d seriously like to know and I’ll do some homework on it.

      • Anonymous

        I won’t support any proposal that changes the rules I was forced to follow for over 50 years. As I said before, the most unfair part of the Fair tax is taxing the rent. As I also said, the idea that a single person can live on half the rent and utilities of a couple is insane, yet the couple would receive a prebate double that of a single person. Fix that and I have no objection.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll work on it.

          Unfortunately, the tax code that you have had to follow for 50 years has grown to be a monstrosity. Today’s tax code would be unrecognizable by someone from the Kennedy era. Actually, even though it was a fraction of the size of today’s code, JFK was already calling it too complicated.

          Unless we simplify the code, my daughters, ages 8 and 10 will have absolutely zero chance of having the prosperity that either you or I have enjoyed. My fear is that it will be impossible to come up with a replacement that will not have any negative impact on anyone. Does that mean we should just give up and keep what we have? If a simple flat tax with few to no deductions is more doable, then I would be all for it, but won’t some people also be negatively impacted by that plan as well?

          • Anonymous

            So do you think it’s ok to throw the the seniors that paid into the system for half a century under the bus. No, I don’t think you feel that way.
            We had a good discussion before and I respect your opinion.

            I explained how the fair tax would be more fair.

            One other thing. People that are fortunate enough to own their home will benefit at the expense of renters.

  • 9+9+9=27 Am I missing something?

    • Anonymous

      Yes, that is just the “Introductory Rate”.

    • Anonymous

      And remember they are all replicate taxes. We will be taxed on the goods we buy with the income we were taxed on, which addedto the manufactures’ labor costs to produce the goods.

      9-9-9 is what I like to call moving air around in a ballon.

  • 9+9+9=27 Am I missing something?

  • 9+9+9=27 Am I missing something?

  • Dear Herman we already have a private retirement solution. Not the Chilean model but the 401K model.

    • Dear Jamie most prople do not have a 401k and the way things are looking they will not be able to collect their social sercurity checks in the near future.

      • Anonymous

        Nearly all companies replaced their pensions (annuities) with a 401k program. Most use a three tier model to move employees to the 401k, based on how long an employee had been part of the pension plan. Those close to retirement keep the full pension, new employees are moved to 401K “pre loaded” depending on years of service.

        Military is in the process doing this too.

        Political class could do it with Social Security but they are too dishonest and self serving. Better used to scare people with.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Cain commands respect through his conservative American principles and how he can effectively communicate them. The fact that he is black is just icing on the cake. If I had a blank canvass to create a replacement for the disaster of a “leader” that we have now, it would be Herman Cain. As Glenn Beck said in late 2010, this man could be the next George Washington or Ronald Reagan. If America doesn’t wake up and realize it, it’s our loss. Press on Herman!

  • I love Cain’s plain spoken directness.

  • I like Herman…no politics..just guts.

  • Anonymous

    I would never understand why a conservative would subject himself to this, being baited and distorted in a remote location by three national socialists.

    This is exactly why Obama does not go on the Hannity show. And there it would only be one on one.

    • Anonymous

      A leader runs into the fire.

      • Anonymous

        I am trying to remember who said that first. Oh yeah, it was George Armstrong Custer.

        • Anonymous

          It has also been said of Gov Palin by Tammy Bruce and others. 😉

          • Anonymous

            And by Hitler, and Mussolini, and Satan

            ZZZZZ

          • Anonymous

            And by Hitler, and Mussolini, and Satan

            ZZZZZ

        • Anonymous

          It has also been said of Gov Palin by Tammy Bruce and others. 😉

        • Anonymous

          It has also been said of Gov Palin by Tammy Bruce and others. 😉

    • Anonymous

      so true,these are the kool aid drinkers(matthews’mixed with bourbon i’m sure)you’ll never get a fair shake at that station.i love when odonell gets all lathered up and screams like an electrocuted hyena……remember that time they had to shut off his mike………mr Cain did handle these tools well though

    • Anonymous

      so true,these are the kool aid drinkers(matthews’mixed with bourbon i’m sure)you’ll never get a fair shake at that station.i love when odonell gets all lathered up and screams like an electrocuted hyena……remember that time they had to shut off his mike………mr Cain did handle these tools well though

  • Anonymous

    I love Cain. He is a fine man and a patriot.

    Sharpton on the other hand is a left-wing racist.

  • The only reason we have to resort to arguing over semantics is because of the lefty loons like Rachel Madcow, Al Sharpton, Larryboy Odonnel, and Eddie Schultz demonizing turning something away from being a government sanctioned Ponzi Scheme. The arguing over the reformed tax code could have been a little better. He really needed to torch them on the fairness of it under his system like Cavuto did a few weeks back. Since under the current system it is more “fair” for some than it is for others but overall very good work by Mr Cain to take on these loons. He still has got my vote over anyone else that is currently in the field.

  • Johann Streit

    Couldn’t help but hold my breath “worrying” whether they would be able to keep faking the new civility front even while being rushed through one question each – they were wisely being kept on a tight leash and therefore mostly off camera during the answers – but unfortunately Rachel M. had to blow it all when she clearly could no longer contain herself at the end for what she thought they had just pulled off before our very eyes. I bet you they all broke out in uncontrollable laughter right after the lights went out.

    • Anonymous

      I felt the same way. How disrespectful they are. But, I wouldn’t expect anything else from that bunch.

  • Anonymous

    Just a waste of time talking to these people……Herman.

  • what is wrong with privatization of social security?

  • Anonymous

    It is unfortunate that Herman Cain was given so little time in the Reagan Library debate. If people were allowed to really listen to Mr. Cain and not just hear “blips” that misrepresent him, he would be doing much better in the polling. I am not surprised that Cain held up well against the MSNBC group. He is not EVER intimidated, and he speaks his mind. You never get the sense that he would be the pawn of opinion groups, contributors, or even a political party. Unfortunately, the national RNC elite have not given him any decent support. Thanks, Herman, for hanging in there—you have the admiration of many Georgians who have followed you for years!!