House leadership working with Rove to fix their messaging problem. Um…

I can hear it now:

Don’t call Obama a socialist and say he’s intentionally destroying the country. Just say he’s doing the best he can but it’s not good enough. That’s how we won 2012…oh wait…


BUZZFEED – Republican strategist Karl Rove huddled with a group of House GOP leaders in the office Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy Thursday morning to discuss the party’s messaging efforts, Republicans familiar with the meeting said.

Details of Rove’s presentation to a group of McCarthy’s “whip team” — a subset of the broader conference tasked with educating the rank and file, rounding up votes on key bills and generally enforcing discipline within Republican ranks.

Following the meeting, several lawmakers could be heard instructing staff to setup meetings with Rove.

Rove’s trip to Capitol Hill may not be met with enthusiasm from every Republican. Rep. Steve King, one of the House’s most vocal conservative firebrands, has been eyeing a run to replace Sen. Tom Harkin now that the veteran Iowa Democrat is resigning.

King is in many ways the sort of conservative candidate that makes the party’s establishment nervous about the coming general election, and King told the Iowa Republican earlier this month his is now strongly considering a run — in part as a response to Rove.

“If I would back up in front of Karl Rove’s initiative, that would just empower him, and he would go on state after state, candidate after candidate,” King told the Republican.

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  • FutureOnePercent

    To paraphrase Bill Whittle, the problem isn’t the message, it’s that our so called “messengers” like Rove don’t actually believe in the message.

    Time for new messengers.

    Good riddance Rove, you’re a parasite.

    • John3_3

      That is perfect. Bill Whittle has nailed it I think. The problem isn’t the message, its that the messengers don’t believe the message.

      I think this is exactly right. Saying a quote like this is kind of like hitting the sweet spot on the baseball bat. You know what you just did, or in this case what you just said, was right.

      • TexasPGRRider

        Or a good Tee shot….

      • Don

        RINO to RINO is just like the progressive left fanatics. They are so much smarter than the American people. If the message is not getting through, its our fault because we are too stupid to know what is best for ourselves and our families. RINOs just have to “dumb it down”, like the liberals do, and the masses will follow their masters.

    • GaltLine

      “Good riddance.” Yes. It’s alright to click the unsubscribe link when Rove sends his email.

  • johnos2112

    Yeah I have had enough with Rove clones. The only messaging is to tell the truth and do it with passion and concrete evidence.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Well said and Spot on!!

  • c4pfan

    This is so stupid. I can’t believe the GOP is that dumb!

    • M_J_S


      Believe it!

    • StrangernFiction

      They aren’t that dumb, they are that corrupt and statist.

  • TexasPGRRider

    I`d like to see Rove go onair with Alex Jones. I believe they`re both in Austin, one of Agenda 21`s “model communities”….

    • Check out the last time Alex met Rove’s boss

      • TexasPGRRider

        THANKS JOHN…Just watched. Must admit I thought Alex was too extreme until a couple of years ago. I now, Firmly Believe he is a God Fearing PATRIOT !!! I now listen to his broadcast on occasion at

        • He’s harmless… and very talented.

  • Tokyo Rove needs to go away before he ruins everything.

  • c4pfan

    The only way to fight back is to STOP sending them money.

    • suedixon

      send them letters, faxes, call and remind them karl does not represent the people that they were employed by.

  • Conservative_Hippie
  • ChesterWalton

    Rove is a pragmatist that wants to elect as many Republicans as possible so that the GOP as a majority can enact a conservative agenda. His pragmatic ideas include getting moderate Republicans to run in states that won’t elect conservative Republicans. They also include avoiding Todd Akin situations. The problem is that the conservative movement is one big money making venture and a GOP “civil war” makes money for people involved without necessarily putting up the best candidates.

    • tinker_thinker

      Did you look at Rove’s candidates in the last election? How many won?

      • ChesterWalton

        NE and NV were supported by Crossroads. More importantly, MO and IN were low hanging (as were NV, CO and DE in 2010) fruit and were fumbled badly.

        • c4pfan

          HELLO! What about the other moderates that ALL lost?

          • ChesterWalton

            Are you referring to the Republicans that lost in blue states or to incumbents?

            • c4pfan


        • tinker_thinker

          Rove spent 400 million dollars and got no one elected.

          • ChesterWalton

            Did the GOP hold the house in an otherwise Dem tidal wave?
            Answer – Yes.
            Did the GOP hold NV senete seat, when the state went blue for Obama?
            Answer – Yes.
            Did the GOP pick up a seat in NE?
            Answer – Yes.
            Did the GOP give up two very favorable seats in red states IN and MO, by running bad candidates?
            Answer – Yes.
            Did the GOP lose in a bunch of blue states with good candidates – VA, PA, WI, OH?
            Answer – Yes.

            Edit – Obviously, all Rove’s fault.

            • tinker_thinker

              I would say any victory for the GOP was due to the tea party not Rove. Don’t forget the tea-party is conservative.

    • chatterbox365

      There we go again bringing up Todd Akin. The man misspoke and apologized, but what did the establishment do? They repeatedly ran him over and left him for dead…and then they can back and ran him over some more.

      Rove is a self-centered opportunist.

      • ChesterWalton

        Misspoke – he barfed all over himself? When you do that on camera, you can’t fix that. If the party embraced him, he could have, and some would argue that he did, take down electable candidates nationwide.

        • JRD1

          No Rove’s endorsed Etch-a-sketch was the funeral director who headed the ticket.

          • ChesterWalton

            Why didn’t Rubio or Palin or Jindal or some other young gun step up to fight Obama then? What other options were out there? Santorum? McCain part 3? Not ready for prime-time Perry? Chuck Norris? Ron Paul, who I like, could have run as a libertarian or Independent. Who was left to support?

    • PhillyCon

      For the gazillionith time, Todd Akin was not a TP supported candidate.

      Edit: Here’s an excerpt from Jeffry Lord’s latest column.

      Politically speaking, there is considerable umbrage taken by conservatives at the idea that a GOP Establishment that keeps losing presidential elections (2012, 2008, 1996, 1992, 1976) or wins them by unnecessarily narrow margins (2000 and 2004) — has the chutzpa to blame conservatives for losing elections. And that’s before you even get to the disaster that was 2006 (when there was no Tea Party and Karl Rove himself had free rein from the White House) or losing races with Establishment candidates in places like Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota and Massachusetts.

      • ChesterWalton

        Not to be argumentative, but I seem to remember that Palin supported a different candidate in the MO GOP primary and did a huge eye-roll once Akin squeaked in. Once he barfed all over himself on TV, every conservative on the planet implored him to step down, not just Rove.

        • JRD1

          There were 3 candidates in that race. Palin supported Sarah Steelman. The Democrats crossed over and voted for Akin because they knew Claire Bear would beat him.

          Quit blaming conservatives for Akin. The Democrats voted for him. Conservatives especially TEA voted for Steelman.

          Rove is a propagandist who rewrites history as much as the Democrats.

        • PhillyCon

          That’s right. So, I don’t see how Akin gets pinned on conservatives, as many are trying to do.

          Its revisionism and intellectually dishonest.

        • Martin2717

          Folks, I think we found Karl Rove. Rove, you’re a cancer to the GOP right now.

    • JRD1

      The gopE doesn’t have a conservative agenda. They have a Big Government agenda. They believe that they are better at managing Big Government then the Democrats.

  • bornfreeamerican


    To paraphrase Bill Whittle, the problem isn’t the message, it’s that our so called “messengers” like Rove don’t actually believe in the message.

    Time for new messengers.

    Good riddance Rove, you’re a parasite.

    FutureOnePercent You are completely 100% correct!
    Plus Rove lost us the Senate twice, gave us Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Obama! Rove has been the GOP’s problem since at least 2006! We are done with Karl Rove! Stick a fork in him!

  • Rove must go down…

  • johnos2112

    The way to rid of Rove is to have donors start saying we no longer need your services anymore. That is the only way!

    • I thought rich GOP donors were smart with their money why waste it away on Karl Rove, that’s a really bad return on your investment.

  • TexasPGRRider

    I think I just heard Cavuto say: “Hagel just missed by one”….

  • marketcomp

    We have read and heard so much for showing why no one should trust Karl Rove that I cannot believe that anyone would even believe this charlatan. He is a proven liar by most accounts starting with Mark Levin. He must be talking to the RINOs or those who have no principals, like him. Otherwise, I just don’t see how anyone trust him.

    • actionsspeaklouder

      Birds of a feather stick together . . .

  • 335blues

    By bringing rove in so quickly after the news spread that he is not the reagan-loving conservative that he tries to claim to be, the GOP leadership has yet again kicked the tea party and conservatives in general right in the teeth. What has become clear is that the rove/mcconnell/boehner liberal republican axis intends to squash the very conservatives who handed boehner- a man who has no leadership skills, no communication skills and no principles that he wouldn’t sell to the highest bidder- the house speakership. It is also clear that it is more important to these three stooges to stop conservatism and the return to a strong America than it is to stop the marxist obama.

    • TexasPGRRider

      THAT, could be a BIG Mistake !!!!

  • Sandra123456

    GOP leaders get your advice from the NRA not Rove. Get rid of the wimp image.

  • freeperjim

    Why are we posting “Onion” articles?

    Oh…..never mind!

  • misterlogic0013

    Rove is in a Panic calling favors all places .. simple matter of time .. Tea Party / Sarah Palin conservatism has him in their sights .. you betcha .. history we win (have won) you loose. facts not fiction ..

    • actionsspeaklouder

      You better be right mister.

      • misterlogic0013

        whats the alternative? not going to happen America has been through many problems, situations much greater, common sense will prevail, logic .. 2014 empty pockets speak volumes .. Rove exposed / OB exposed .. Sarah / Tea Party, gaining strength all day everyday ..

  • RefudiateGOPe

    Just how stupid are these people? Why are they taking advice from a proven failure? I give Rove a big part of the blame for Obama winning in 2008 because Bush/Rove did not defend themselves against the Democrats attacks on them. The low-information voters were convinced that Bush caused the recession because the Bush WH made no attempt to defend themselves. Why they didn’t pin the collapse on the Dem Congress is beyond stupid. The mortgage/construction industry collapsed because people were loaned money they couldn’t afford to pay back. That’s all on Congress, but Rove allowed the Dems to blame Bush.

    His failures in 2012 are well documented.

    • So ridiculous that they consider Sarah Palin a failure, when in fact, she was kneecapped by the GOPE playbook. I’ll take Sarah’s track record, a winning one, over Karl Rove’s loser record anyday of the week.

  • RefudiateGOPe

    “We are a country going bankrupt to fund a bloated, distant, and often corrupt federal government led by venal politicians more concerned with paying off their campaign cronies and consolidating their own power than in preserving the constitutional republic…”

    – Sarah Palin

    She wasn’t just talking about Democrats. The Republicans better pay attention. They have a choice to make. Rove has poked the grass roots with a stick and Palin/Levin are ready to whirl around and tear his face off. GAME ON!

  • PhillyCon

    Dumb and Dumber. These people never learn from their mistakes. At least, they are not leading our men and women into battle.

    • JRD1

      No they are not dumb and dumber. The Bush mafia is trying to intimidate conservatives. They are never going to be in the wilderness for 8 years ever again.

      Too flippin’ bad. The Age of Bush is over.

  • PhillyCon

    It’s almost like the GOP has a death wish.

    • actionsspeaklouder

      Too true. It’s the old guard. They just can’t let go of the old ways. They want status quo because it’s what they are comfortable with. Someone needs to tell them that “comfortable” is NOT what they are there for. They don’t want to get their hands dirty . . .

  • c4pfan

    You don’t bring up Scott Brown, Tommy Thompson, George Allan, and every person Rove picked LOST!

    • ChesterWalton

      Pretty much conventional wisdom that an Akin or Mourdoch-like candidate would of trounced in MT, MA, VA and WI.

  • chatterbox365

    What a bunch of idiots…no wonder our side in is trouble. They are listening to a loser with a losing record.

    Keep the heat on Rove!!!

    • Guest1776rcp

      Even when Rove wins conservatism loses -see W. Bush years.

  • ryanomaniac

    What a disaster.

  • Stehekin912

    Remember what Reagan said…BOLD COLORS not pale pastels!

  • Why not call Obama what he is, a typical Tax & Spend liberal? That sort of language helped to make liberal politicians un-electable in the past, so why not use it now? After all, it’s the truth, too.

    • NJK

      Liberal is too tame to describe what’s going on today. More like a Muslim and Marxist.

  • NJK

    Don’t forget he’s a nice guy, but a bad President, too. Yes, that’s the ticket. All nice guys call terrorists friends, right?

  • Linky1

    Rove isn’t going down without a fight.

    Unfortunately, he has help from the gutless, shameless, lilly livered RINOS who seem to think the sun still shines brightly out of Rove’s back passage. Them along with the idiots at FOX News who have renewed Rove’s contract who also think Rove is the best thing since sliced bread.

    The only losers here are the American people and conservative values and principles…….

  • A study by the Sunlight Foundation, which tracks political spending, concluded that Rove’s super PAC, American Crossroads, had a success rate of just 1 percent on $103 million in attack ads — one of the lowest “returns on investment” (ROIs) of any outside spending group in 2012 elections.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Nothing good will come of this.

    The Republican leadership… spineless and ignorant as they are… have learned absolutely nothing. Not a damn thing.

    • actionsspeaklouder

      Right you are Sober. Right you are. How ya been?

      • Sober_Thinking

        Doing okay overall… I’ve been richly blessed. Thank you for asking. 🙂

  • Karl Rove is advising the GOP?? Good grief.

    The GOP……the party of stupid. Really…..

  • 57thunderbird

    I guess these idiots have to learn the hard way that we conservatives intend to kick Rove and all his RINO friends to the curb.

  • mark1955

    Yep Rove, It’s “Your Message”. Not the fact that you and the vast majority of repubs in Washington are pushing the dems agenda. sarc

  • Karl Rove is a disease. The only way to save the Republican Party is to excise him from the body, like the cancer he, and his followers, are.

    • StrangernFiction

      There are more cancer cells than healthy cells. The GOP and DC are beyond saving.

    • We need a list of names of everyone who listens to Rove.

      • suedixon

        exactly K and call, email, send faxes to remind them rove did not elect them we did.

  • CrazyAZBiker

    He is a DECEPTICON… a deceptive conservative! They make you think they are doing something one way when they are doing it another… John McCain, Linsay Graham, Jeff Flake and Mitch McConnell to name a few are also DeceptiCons! Im not using the Rino name any longer.

    • 57thunderbird

      I like it.Good term for these fools.

    • StrangernFiction

      They are very much Republicans. What they aren’t is conservative.

    • Jeffrey Lord calls them Cotton Conservatives. It’s a VERY appropriate name. We need to hang it around their necks, because of the very salient reminder of the Cotton Whigs, and their willingness to accept slavery “in order to win.” It’s what led to the Whigs demise.

      It will lead to the demise of the Republicans, too. Time for something better.

  • MominNV

    CAN’T Fix Stupid, so let us vote them OUT.

  • aposematic

    The Rove R’s are very happy with the status quo and do not want the Conservatives upsetting the Big Gov. agenda they are more than happy to assit the D’s in growing. The only difference is the Rove R’s want to be in charge of the growing and hope to some day. That’s why Rove insists any electable fool will do as long as they put that R behind their name.

  • FreeManWalking

    IF Rove and the GOP “So Called” leadership are the Messengers,

    There has never been a more appropriate time to shoot the Messenger.

    • actionsspeaklouder

      And that is the pure, unadulterated TRUTH. It is clear that the Republican leaders know that conservatives are out to “get them out” and have turned to Rove to salvage their jobs. Rove is throwing out the “grassroots” terminology to “hook” folks who don’t know his (or Boehner’s or McConnell’s or Cantor’s ) track record of being WEAK and ineffectual when it mattered to THE WELLBEING AND SURVIVAL OF THIS COUNTRY. I am hoping that Rove’s attempts fail miserably, as they should, and that the Tea Party rises up and slaps him in the derriere. Rove will fight, Boehner, McConnell, et al., will fight for their political lives BUT they must be defeated and kicked to the curb. Rove thinks that just by using the term “grassroots” will give him credibility – it won’t. The Tea Party is the only “grassroots” organization(s) that are grassroots conservative and Rove is NOT a conservative. The Republican leaders/elite are well aware of their tenuous positions and are trying to (in the most feeble way possible – not really convincing anyone) show that they can “speak up” (their mamby pamby attempts). Well, fellas, it’s too late. You should have spoken up BEFORE Obama got reelected and you should have DEFUNDED Obamacare like you said you would and you should have said NO to Obama’s debt ceiling demands and you should have supported conservative Tea Party candidates to pay the Tea Party back for giving you the HOUSE in 2010. You did NONE of that and now I hope you sweat it out. Rove is OVER. I haven’t watched FOX News since November and now that they have renewed Rove for further commentary – I will not watch FOX again. Watching the fallout of the November elections is interesting. Scott Brown now on FOX – another RINO!!!! Rove’s contract being renewed – West kicked to the curb. Sarah Palin’s contract not being renewed (although, she may have not wanted it to be). Testing the waters for Jeb Bush as a candidate in 2016 – ugh. I’m not even sure that Rubio is the right person for 2016. All I do know is that I’m am still livid over the voter fraud that is not being investigated or brought to light. Still outraged at CNN, NBC, MSNBC, and the other “news” organizations that continue to manipulate/censor the NEWS to keep Obama’s failures and outright treasonous actions from the public. I refuse to donate to the RNC and Reince Preibus. Personally, I’m gearing up to get involved again and it won’t be for the RINOs or Rove or FOX. Conservatives must do all they can possibly do to defeat the entrenched RINOs, the entrenched incumbents and any and all Democrats.

      • FreeManWalking

        I do not think Conservatism will ever dominate the GOP, even with Reagan as President and Newt as Speaker the blue blood rockafeller establishment had a lot of power and control.

        IMO it will take a fresh new party to return the country to constitutional principles and values.

        The majority of senators and congressmen in both parties are invested too much in their own personal wealth, power, position and prestige.

        We have created our own welfare state of representatives, most of them have done nothing more in their lives than live off the government tit, and have learned that they can write their own payroll checks.

  • John_Frank

    Dumb and dumber.

  • cabensg

    There’s only one person they should have called…Gingrich. He knows how to talk nice to liberals while he’s making them do exactly what he wants. Every article he’s written at Human Events makes more sense than anything the House has done so far. Here’s one of them.

    • actionsspeaklouder

      I so agree. It’s too bad Newt has a past that the media and RINOs will bury him with every chance they get. Newt is someone who knows how to maneuver around the liberal press and who knows the ins and outs of DC. In a way, he has cooked his own goose – and I hate to admit it. I really do.

  • brigin

    Rove was delivering orders from on high. Planned Parenthood that is.

  • bernie12

    The House GOP leaders going to Karl Rove for advice on fixing their messaging problem…is like the Jacksonville Jaguars going to the Cleveland Browns on advice of how to get to the Super Bowl.

    Stupid Party? You Betcha!

  • c4pfan

    Someone on twitter asked a good question. Why is Ted Cruz trashed by the GOP and Menendez is treated with respect?

  • hongryhawg

    The GOP just will not learn. Their jump into the bed with Rove will just set them further back. Rove is a closet RINO.

  • bjohnson55

    I wouldn’t let Rove fix my septic tank let alone messaging for the Republican party. Show him the door or you can kiss 2014 good-bye.

  • usa4eva

    As long as Republicans continue to listen to the likes of Rove, they will continue to LOSE!

  • needster

    There is only one political party in this country and that is the Progressive Party. The D’s and the R’s in the Congress and Senate are mostly Progressives. We haven’t had a non-progressive president in the last 100 years. We need to get a new Constitution Party started or we will become just another European style Socialist country.

  • suedixon

    here are the names of the GOP Leadership: John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, Cathy McMorris Rogers, and James Langford. phone number to capitol is 202-224-3121. I got through to mccarthy (where meeting with rove was held) and rogers. cantor’s mailbox is full. will try boehner and langford next.

  • suedixon

    let them know we will not support any message from Karl Rove and that we will not be told who our candidates will be. I reminded the staffers that it was the people that they are employed by NOT FATBOY KARL ROVE, and if they do not want to lose in 2014 they better start listening to us or expect a really low turnout in 2014. I will not support any candidate endorsed by karl or the gop establishment.

  • Rove’s advice to the repubs will undoubtedly be to “put on their big girl’s panties.”