Instead of a scattered message and getting distracted, the Republicans need to focus on just three points and keep repeating them, over and over and over.......
1 - No tax increases on anyone
2 - No increase on the debt limit
3 - Real cuts in Govt spending (not just rate of growth)
Krauthammers opinion sounds good, but if we go over the cliff, the republicans will be blamed according to most others.
I'm getting mighty tired of the fecal cliff. If the goverment keeps spending like it is and borrowing 42% of every dollar to do it, we're going down the tubes anyway.
I am not yet convinced that the GOP in the House will do anything other than do some silly last-minute deal and sell us all out. I lost faith in them shortly after the landslide election of 2010 when they kicked sand in the face of the conservatives in the party and continue to kick that sand at every opportunity. In my opinion, this entire charade has been just that - a charade. A show carefully staged to give us hope. Then, at the 11th hour, we will be stabbed in the back again. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but...
This guy never saw a 'hindsight moment' to which he didn't advert. Levin and a host of others have been saying this for weeks. On the other hand he always remains relevant and current due to his enless flexibility of commentary expertise.
When someone is fearful they automatically lose so if the GOP wants to win they will get some chutzpah and stand their ground. Speaking for myself I will respect anyone who does not cave to the Marxist policies.
As I've stated ad nauseum, I believe Obama wants to go over the damn cliff because he's always been out to collapse the economy and install European Socialism at best and Communism at worst in the US. He's nothing but a tinhorn dictator-wannabe and he's out to destroy this country and enslave her citizens in order to fulfill the destiny he believes he has. His hatred of this country and her citizens is palpable. The problem is that the Republicans don't see this as fact or can't believe that anyone would think this way. Either way, they think they can "negotiate" with him. You can't negotiate with a die-hard meglomaniac who thinks his "stuff" doesn't stink and that he has a "mandate" to govern as a dictator. The Republic is, for all intents and purposes, dead and there is really nothing left for We the People but to hunker down, await the collapse and help start over again. Keep your powder dry and your family safe. Stick together with like-minded family, friends and neighbors and be prepared to help where you can and fight where you must.
God bless and please help, America as We the People take back our country from the evil that IS Washington, DC!
The House has always had the power. Why they even try to "negotiate" or "compromise" with Obuma is itself Unconstitutional. Note: The Senate, not the POTUS, sets the Budget and the House finds ways to pay, or not pay, for that Budget. There is not a Budget to "negotiate" or "compromise" on...the Senate has not proposed, let alone passed, any Budget for three years running...soon to be four years. This renders the Continuing Resolutions also Unconstitutional. Understand one thing if nothing else: Our present Federal Government is unlawful/Unconstitutional in most every way possible.
"Senate has not proposed, let alone passed, any Budget for three years running...soon to be four years. This renders the Continuing Resolutions also Unconstitutional. Understand one thing if nothing else: Our present Federal Government is unlawful/Unconstitutional in most every way possible."
You hit that nail on the head. The fact that no one in the government or media dare mention the budget is quite telling.
Also quite telling is that even thought they run a criminal and propaganda operation fully outside the law and the Constitution, they seem constrained to be such good lawmakers and formally pass a tax bill and a debt ceiling increase.
Krauthammer is right. There is a much bigger fight coming up over the debt ceiling and THAT will be the only way the Republicans will be able to actually force Obama to cut spending, not just reduce future increases in spending, which is what the Democrats specialize in. Democrats never, ever, want to cut anything. A "Spending Cut" to them is just not growing government as fast as they usually grow it. But the big, fat, Federal bureaucracy continues to grow regardless of who is in office, which is why we are over $16 TRILLION in debt. By 2016, we WILL be as bankrupt as Greece and then it will be too late to do anything about it. The case MUST be made to the low information voters out there that unless they want end up just like Greece in a few short years, then we have to do something about it NOW. But, given the results of the last presidential election, I don't really think the majority of the American public really cares about that argument, as long as those government checks keep rolling in.
The Republicans have become impotent, ignorant, cowards over all of this. They missed their chance and they are now owned by Obama and cowed by the media. It's all just a political game at this point... a dance of debt.
Cut the head off this dead snake (Boehner) and put someone in his position who has a spine and and some smarts and the screwed up Democrats won't have the momentum anymore.
Couple that with Mark Levin's excellent suggestion of leaving tax rates as they are now for the top 2 tiers and lower taxes for the bottom 3 tiers of taxpayer (the lower and middle class - to use their terms) and the Republicans will be able to completely change the entire narrative and crap that the Democrats are spewing.
Message to Boehner: "Just say NO!"
Yep. And if the GOP LOSERship is really serious about getting spending under control, they should start by eliminating baseline budgeting, limit COLA increases for highly paid federal workers to the FPL (it's not supposed to be the Cost of Luxury Adjustment).
It's important to start out making solid points that can help get Bubba on your side. If it all starts out as just who's going to pay more taxes, the LOSERship is screwed.
This has been a carefully orchestrated 'no win' game for conservatives from the beginning. Knuckle under and Barry wins. Stand our ground and Barry gets to play hero and bring in the 'Obama Tax Cuts' to replace the 'Bush Tax Cuts'. Cutting the taxes on those who don't pay any taxes right now and increasing the taxes on those who provide most of the tax revenue in the first place.
The House crafted a proposal that gave Barry exactly what he was 'originally' asking for (before the election), not only was it dead on arrival before it left the House but the Senate had already said they would not accept it and the President said he would veto it if sanity did prevail in the Senate.
It's time to just sit back and watch the show.
Funny how Boehner and his boobs (leadership around him) fell right into this insanity. Getting the media to "like" them just isn't going to happen. When will the House remember that THEY hold all the cards here? Spotlight that Reid and the senate is the one who is blocking everything and damn the media for not calling this out.
The idea that Caveman Boehner floated out there (Plan B?) was Pelosi's idea. Zero rejected it and Pelosi called her own plan a political stunt, after Caveman submitted the plan to Zero. So Zero is rejecting anything from the Repubs, even if the idea wasn't theirs to begin with. Why? What's the holdup? Why is he purposely holding out? He's playing a lot of games with the money and by extension, the lives of the American people. He's playing a very dangerous game at that, in my opinion.
And by delaying anything serious or actually helpful... every single day we delay, he wins and we waste billions upon billions more.
It's been Obama's plan from the beginning. Boehner is simply playing the game without knowing the rules. Boehner has a royal flush in his hand and Obama only has a pair of 2's.
THIS ALL IS SO AVOIDABLE!!!
Republicans should change the mantra from the "Fiscal Cliff" to something positive like the: "Fiscal Dawn" and paint this as an opportunity to fix everything instead of play along with the Democrats tragedy message. Turn this into a chance for a new approach that will save America...
I agree with the premise... Republicans must do something that doesn't currently seem to be in their DNA... put the blame and the onus on the Democrats. Make THEM accountable for the tragedies they're allowing to happen to this nation.
Per your point about the budget, the House leaders should have said the House they will consider any and all tax changes or extensions as part of the budget package sent to them for vote.
They did not. They are part of the Kabuki dance - and this one is a Tragedy.
The House should pass a clean Bill making the "Bush tax cuts" permanent and send it to the Senate. Ball in Reid's end of the field to play or punt.
I could be completley wrong but I think Boehner was playing a bigger game here. I think he knew from the start he didn't have the votes to pass a 'compromise' measure.
I think he knew he was putting his reputation on the line to demonstrate that the House would 'compromise' with Reid and Obama knowing and demonstrating that the Obama administration is virtually uncompromising.
The 'media' is never going to show it that way but in the long run, Barry and Harry are going to own this diasater. ;-) ;-)
The Obama 'machine' is cunning and clever. I suspect it's going to turn out they are a little too clever for their own good. Fast & Furious and Benghzi are 2 examples and there will be more. The die hard 'Peace & Love' lib intellectuals are going to turn against them once it comes out what a manipulating bunch of opportunists they really are. ;-) ;-)
The Repubs have crafted legislation and offered proposals to Zero for close to two years now and Reid/Zero have done everything to act as roadblocks to anything they do. Somehow they've been successful in shifting blame to the Repubs and now we have to suffer under another four years of Zero. The adoring propagandist media arm of the regime of Zero, community agitators disguised as community organizers, Hollyweird, and many more have made sure the Democraps come out as the tolerant, kind-hearted good guys and the Republicants are the bad guys who want dirty air and water and want to shove granny off of the cliff. As Vorlath stated in his post, the Repubs don't have the courage they used to have. Therefore, they don't, can't, or won't vehemently oppose the Dems and do everything they can to get their message out loud and clear. That has hurt them to a great degree and the next election cycle may very well reflect that.
The problem is that the media is in Obama's hand. However, that only works for a while. Republicans don't have the courage they used to have. Newt shut down government many times and Clinton got scared that he would lose the media war and was more interested in looking good than governing. Republicans should play the long game. Instead, they're worried about the short game. Obama always wins the short game. The media makes sure of that.
They have always had the power of the purse. And they could always have the upper hand if they would only take a stand on principle instead of worrying how they might look to potential voters. Over the cliff or not over the cliff, either way our financial structure is collapsing.
The House should have said lower the bottom three tax brackets, keep the top 2 the same and throw that in Obama's face. Let him twist in the wind and stop offering to do the twisting for him.
Dang man... you stole my thunder! I should have read your post first.
I couldn't agree with you more!!!
That's exactly the problem--- most people think that the POTUS is some sort of dictator that rules and decides all on his own. The House makes the decisions, the POTUS's job is only to approve or deny.
Obama's job is to simply arrogantly smile and look pretty for the cameras.
He has no legal power to pull the crap he's pulling.
Have I noticed? (insert appropriate cuss words here)
You are correct. And what sickens me is that he gets away with it every single time. There is no way this monster should be sitting in the Oval Office, let alone be walking around as a free man. It may never happen... but he has A LOT to answer for.
Although it seems our current POTUS sees no problem with overstepping his bounds and disregarding the Constitution at his pleasure.
Yes, he has:
He could even proclaim he had a mandate to do what he did. He's that arrogant...and his propagandist media arm would carry the water all the way from the well for him.
We both know he's just setting us up for the opportunity to do it with a media proclaimed righteousness on his side.