By The Right Scoop


As Boehner rushes out to show his hand and talk about bipartisanship and a possible ‘revenues’ compromise and has Harry Reid says that he and Boehner will be able to compromise, Michelle Malkin calls it like it is: the “return of the beltway kabuki theater”.

She also points out that the leverage is with Obama on continuing the current tax rates because if the kabuki dancers refuse to dance together and there is a stalemate, Obama wins by default as the tax rates go up automatically for everyone at the end of the year.

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  • justinquiring

    We are headed towards a 2nd recession with sequestration. O will have it on his hands.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

      He cares not. It won’t effect his lifestyle.

      • anneinarkansas

        Remember he is still sleeping! Staff told to not come in until ten.

        • iaintlyin

          Hoops at 11, lunch, Nap 2-4, Trumpka phone call 4:30, oh Trumpkas organizing in Egypt? get that Wienstein broad on the phone we’ll bs with her a few minutes until 5 and call it a day

      • bobemakk

        Obama is a spendthrift and doesn’t care what he does with our taxpayer money. Expensive vacations and his wifes ugly gowns are very expensive as well. Obamanation is our ruination.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

      1929 revisited…Deja vu – “all over again!”

    • DavidRobertson

      The media will do like they have done and convince half the country that sequestration came because the extreme Tea Partiers on the right made it impossible or the reasonable republicans to compromise for the betterment of the country. He will be their martyr…the guy who valiantly tried to save America.

      Wish it weren’t true, but lets face it. The media still has a significant influence over the casual American who doesn’t take the time to dig into be facts.

  • anneinarkansas

    Recession coming!
    Replace Boehner with Cantor.

    • iaintlyin

      Or Bachmann or Gohmet or….. hey at this point I’d replace him with Dondi (remember him?).

      • ChesterWalton

        Bachmann would be awesome, she has maybe 10 votes. But imagine, we could get endless congressional investigations into the Muslim hoards that are invading our goverment and other crackpot theories like the coming zombie and white walker revolution.

        • iaintlyin

          Hate to break it to ya brother, but I’m with her on the Brotherhood invasion of our gov’t, look at the top man my neighbors just reelected. The white walker and zombie theorries I’m not quite up on but if she has a few hours and a coupla beers, I’ll listen.

        • BikerHoop

          If you’re not up on the Muslim Brotherhood’s infiltration of our government then you are woefully uneducated. I suggest you go to youtube and watch some videos of the Imams saying their goal is to have the flag of Islam flying over the White House. Then do a little more research and discover for yourself the number of Brotherhood people already implanted, including Hillary’s right hand. I suggest you NOT believe me… do the research yourself and prove me wrong.

    • mike3e4r7

      As Mark Levin has mentioned a couple of times, the speaker of the House does not have to actually be a member of the house.

      What do you all say about starting a movement to get Newt chosen as Speaker of the House. If he’s up for it, we should all hit the phones and call our Republican Congressmen to support it. We have nothing to gain from compromise anymore.

      • WordsFailMe

        i like it!

      • anneinarkansas

        Good Idea!

      • WhiteGuy2

        I like it!

      • mike3e4r7

        Does anyone know how we could reach Newt? I just tried calling the phone # on NEWT.ORG, but no answer.

        • Orangeone

          I have Twitter so I will try. I will also tweet Hannity and Levin

          • MiketheMarine

            Hey there. How goes it? Any idea who this Chester Walton character is?

            • Orangeone

              I do not know.

          • mike3e4r7

            Great! Let us know if you get a response.

            • Orangeone

              I’ll keep tweeting too!

              Wolfie, you are on Twitter, please RT my tweets.

              • mike3e4r7

                Hannity was a good idea. He definitely follows his Twitter account.

      • ChesterWalton

        Your plan is to fracture the republican party? Fine, fracture into the tea party and republican party. The tea party would be in permanent minority status, essentially unelectable nationally. The republican party could move to the center, lose the crazy social positions and perhaps have a chance.

        • mike3e4r7

          My plan is to have a Republican party with some balls.

          • Orangeone

            Balls in the men, not just the women like Bachmann and Palin!

            • mike3e4r7

              Lol! Agreed!

            • Galatiansch2vs20

              Call it courage, won’t you, please? I don’t think professing Christians Bachman and Palin would want their courage reduced to sexual crassness.

              • mike3e4r7

                My bad Galatiansch2vs20. I got the ball rolling (no pun intended) with my comment. Orangeone was just responding to me. Would the word spine work for you?

                • Galatiansch2vs20

                  spine, backbone, courage, fortitude, guts, unshakeable conviction, unswerving principles, uncompromising, truly conservative- all those would do!

        • MiketheMarine

          What republican party. You mean the party that couldn’t take control of a senate during an huge recession even though that democrat controlled congress refuses to even pass a budget? You need to advance past the 1960’s and wake up. The party you affiliate yourself with is just as guilty as the democrats. Let’s face it, in the past TWO presidential races your party chose to nominate McCain then Romney. TWo giant, grey, blind RINO’s. They are already finished. This party was fractured by the party leadership. You can cry of what might have been. We are moving on.

          • ChesterWalton

            Here is the list of non-RINO’s that lost slam dunk automatic republican senate seats. Angle (NV), O’Donnell (DE), Mourdock (IN) and Akin (MO). Throw in a few more Romney induced loses in red states, like Montana and North Dakota. Your view of the republican party works in some Southern and West States, but a recipe to permanent minority status nationally.

            • MiketheMarine

              And how much did your RNC help that list of people? The refused to help Akin until about 3 weeks ago, they refused Mourdock, too. It is past time to lecture voters to get on board with your loser party. They ignore us, fight TEA party patriots and then think WE ARE to blame? Moronic. Their job is to listen to their base and respond to OUR desires. NOT the other way around. The RNC can stick it where the sun don’t shine. They won’t see another nickel from me. Not after the last 2 presidential elections. It’s almost like they WANTED to lose.

              • ChesterWalton

                I don’t understand – on one hand you despise the RNC and on the other they didn’t reach out their all-powerful arms to help poor Akin and Mourdock. The truth is there were two better candidates than Akin that would have creamed McCaskill and that Luger would have won by 40 pts.

                There should be a conservative official Tea Party that can run and support their own

                • MiketheMarine

                  You asked why they lost. The RNC cannibalised both of them. You want us to robotically follow a seriously flawed party and won’t acknowledge the part they played in, in this historic loss? How could they not have won the senate? The senate has done nothing in 4 years and have spent about 8 trillion dollars since the dems took control of the 110 congress on January 3, 2007 and they’ve done it completely unchecked by the do nothing RNC.

                • ChesterWalton

                  I think they lost because of their extreme minority views – look at their vote totals in RED states – math, I believe it. The RNC didn’t tell them to barf all over themselves about rape and abortion.

                  The famous lib Sean Hannity raked Akin over coals and implored him drop out. Akin put ego before country.

                • MiketheMarine

                  No, but the RNC DID make both Akin’s and Mourdoch’s faux pas national news. They wanted a reason to yank support and they jumped all over them in the news. They did the dems job for them by actively destroying their chances.

                • HuntsvilleAL

                  Totally agree. Akin should have fallen on his sword and dropped out. Any Republican with the ability to fog a mirror could have beat McCaskel

              • Orangeone

                The RNC did not help Allen West who is in a voter fraud fight for his seat or Mia Love who lost UT by only 1 point. The RNC disses the Tea Party. Payback is a b!tch and this woman is ready for the fight.

            • Orangeone

              Mourdock and Akin lost because they didn’t put duct tape on their mouths. And because of they, Romney was also hurt because people saw the Repub party as extremist who would take away rights granted by the SCOTUS.

    • MiketheMarine

      I would like to see Trey Gowdy take over the Speakership.

      • anneinarkansas

        I really do like him…he has spirit!

        • Orangeone

          Being a cutie doesn’t hurt either. I would like to see him run in 2016!

      • ChesterWalton

        He is not even close to having the votes.

        • MiketheMarine

          You should cancel your subscription to the Republican Establishment Daily and start using your own intelligence.

        • Orangeone

          And you know this how? Are you a beltway libtard named Valerie Jarrett?

      • Orangeone

        He does a great job as #2 on the Oversight Committee. Did you see the suggestions above about Newt? If not Newt, I say Allen West. He has ethics, intregity, manparts and the ability to get in the faces of libtards and takes no prisoners.

    • NHConservative0221

      Cantor is just as bad.

      Bachmann would be a great Speaker.

    • Orangeone

      Cantor is just as bad. I say Bachmann

    • Arrrggghhh

      I got an e-mail from a group today that was pushing to replace Boehner with Ryan. Did Ryan actually win his congressional seat again? I’m not even sure how that works.

      Boehner does need to go.

      • conwis

        Yes he won his seat agin, thank The Lord! He would be awesome. They we get BO and JB impeached for Benghazi and other things. Bingo– President Ryan

        • Arrrggghhh

          I think he’d be a great choice. The great thing about Ryan being picked by Romney was the fact that he was liked by both the establishment republicans as well as the Tea Party coalition. I love Michelle Bachmann also, but I don’t think there is any way that the establishment republicans would allow it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000115674819 Jeannie Clarke

          Remember how Obama treated Ryan, McCain and Cantor during the “healthcare discussions”? He was condescending, boorish and rude. Someone with the intestinal fortitude to go toe-to-toe with him should be Speaker. Ryan is too nice – remember the VP debate?

          • BS61

            I like Ryan because he is actually informed, unlike the majority who get their talking points of the day and can’t handle a question that is not about those subjects. Speaker Boehner cannot even speak well!

    • mgsent

      Since there is no requirement that the Speaker of the House even be a member of congress, replace the weasel with a man, Allen West.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000115674819 Jeannie Clarke

      If Allen West is successful (the recount is looking good), he should be Speaker of the House. The Speaker has to give as good as he gets because Obama thinks he’s the smartest man in the room. I can’t think of anyone who could give it right back to him like West can!

      • anneinarkansas

        Great Idea and I do hope he is successful in his recount suit.
        Boehner said today that Obamacare is the law of the land and we can’t do anything. I am not willing to accept that.

    • aposematic

      I’m from VA and honsetly I don’t know which one would be worse.

  • johnos2112

    Tea Party principles work folks! The RNC needs to be taken over by the Tea Party!

    • Kordane

      It will take too long to drain the cesspool of all those impure (corrupted by tyranny) RINOs. You think they will simply give up their grasp on power? No, they will fight such efforts both tooth and nail.

      Better to start from scratch with a brand new party; one that the founding fathers would have been impressed by.

      • johnos2112

        Nope.  Will not work.  If Reagan can do it so can someone else.  Reagan had to wait 12 years before he finally won.  When someone hears that conservative mind the people will flock to him.  That could have been a reason why Jindal did not run this time.  The RNC needs to be shore up.  The beltway repubs are a joke.  Those that have power can have it taken away!

        • Nukeman60

          The Republican party was first founded in 1854 to take over for the Whig party. By 1860 (a mere 6 years), they were very powerful, electing Lincoln to the Presidency. The Tea Party (although not yet quite a party) was started much the same way in ’08. There is no reason to believe that they can’t do the same thing by 2016 (8 years), given the fact that conditions are going to get worse and the ideals and platforms of the Tea Party will be more and more desired by the average Joe.

          The real key is to destroy the power of the corrupt MSM, who were fundamental in the re-election of Obama. Without them, through the emergence of the New Guardians (the 5th estate), we can convince a majority of the population what the truth really is.

          • sDee

            “The real key is to destroy the power of the corrupt MSM”

            Unless the truth cane start to emerge, nothing else we do will matter. Even the alternate media will not touch close to the bone. It is a rigged game. Top to bottom, and global. The only tihng they fear is the people and right now they have an approximate 51% majority suppressing all the legal and political recourse of the 49%.

            I do not know how anyone can look at the last election and see anything else.

          • johnos2112

            To convince people you need to tell the entire truth.  Here is bigger problem:   FREE STUFF!!!!   That is what the Democrats will continue to do.   When people give up they go for BIG GOVT!  When the economy gets worse people will just gravitate to the govt.  We are headed to a major collapse!

            • Nukeman60

              That is true. When the free stuff dwindles, people will be screamming for someone to save them. Also, as Obama’s policies take more effect (eg, ObamaCare), they will be complaining even louder.

              My daughter-in-law is already seeing this with her medical interactions. She was complaining to me that they don’t do what they used to do at these clinics and hospitals and the quality of care is deteriorating. I told her, “Yep and Obamacare hasn’t even taken total control yet. Just wait. It will get worse”.

              • Orangeone

                And the union positions within the health care industry have driven costs up and quality of care into the toity.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Toity? Wow, a little Brit blood bubbling up. LOL

                • Orangeone

                  Well I was going to say the loo but only my Brit and Cannuck friends would understand :)

                • MiketheMarine

                  LOL

          • ChesterWalton

            The real key is to get voters to believe in your positions and vote for your candiates. It happened in 2010. The tea party arose and prospered despite MSM contempt – continue to move forward, get folks elected or to switch parties. Stop with the MSM brainwashing meme, because it applies to both parties.

            • MiketheMarine

              The detail you refuse to acknowledge is we, TEA Partiers are being forced to fight the RNC and the DNC. The position you take makes you part of the problem, not the cure.

            • Nukeman60

              You’re saying the corrupt MSM backs both parties? If you believe the MSM is so fine, then you are either 1) part of them, or 2) blind as a bat. I’ve read your past posts, so I guess #1 is out, then.

              It’s people like you that we are exposing, in order to convince other moderate people that you spew lies. When they come around, you will not have a platform to spew from.

              I suggest that if you have a kid, you name him Dingus Bartholomew (Ding Bat, for short), as it would be oh so fitting.

              • ChesterWalton

                I am saying that, whatever is left, of the MSM, doesn’t matter. Conservatives have plenty of ways to get their message heard. Fox news dominates cable, conservatives dominate radio, the internet and social media are open playing fields. The idea that Brian Williams and 60 minutes and MSNBC have a lock on messaging is absurd.

                • Nukeman60

                  Then you’ve buried your head in the cable sand because there are many, many people out there that don’t have cable, don’t use the internet, and only hear their politics from the 6:00 o’clock news and the Sunday morning political shows. It’s interesting, btw, that they put them on Sunday morning where most people might be at Church anyway.

                  Try talking to people that voted for Obama that aren’t far left wackos. You will hear stories about Romney wanting to outsource jobs to China and the Tea party is totally racist and far rightwing.

                  You’re being disingenuous when you say something doesn’t matter. All things matter and when you let one lie slip by, you let them all slip by. The majority of the national news media, local newspapers and local TV and radio are liberal (90%). They all back the White House talking points. It’s what the average citizen hears day in and day out.

                  And when someone like me brings it up, someone like you tries to disprove it by saying it’s absurd. Pay no attention, people. Move along. I’m telling you it’s not going to work anymore. It’s war. Duck or get off the pot.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Get ‘em. He is annoying the crap out of me. I don’t suffer fools well and he is one of the.

                • Nukeman60

                  I’m with ya, Mike. It’s a fine line to walk between minding Scoops comments policies and kicking the holy you-know-what out of any troll that strolls under our bridge.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Hahaha, I don’t worry about that line. I’m on good terms with the moderators and they know that if I violate that line they can just delete it. I don’t mind. I’ve never been accused of being tactful or subtle. I’m lucky I know how to spell subtle.

                • Nukeman60

                  Honesty might get you deleted once in a while, but at least people know exactly where you stand. I like it. Honesty is always the best policy (hey, maybe I should e-mail Obama about that —nah, waste of time).

                • MiketheMarine

                  Emailing the Mao-man would be pointless. All Scoopers have been white listed.

                  While I’ve never been accused of subtlety, I’ve never been accused of being ambiguous, either. Nothing like the occasional F-bomb to enlighten a room as to your true feelings.

                  LOL

                • Nukeman60

                  white listed‘ – m

                  I’m still laughing. Hehehehehehe.

                • MiketheMarine

                  =+)

                • MiketheMarine

                  Yeah, but our message is being diluted by ignorant fools like you.

        • Orangeone

          Too bad Reagan granted amnesty to the Latinos that just voted for Barky Boy and brought 12 million more illegals in that Barky Boy is going to grant citizenship to.

          • johnos2112

            So you are gonna say Reagan was a failure based on that screw up?   His policies worked AND he would not back down from his conservative principles.  That is what this country needs.

            • Orangeone

              Grave error that led to where we are today.

        • Kordane

          Why wouldn’t it work? You’re telling me that it won’t, and that I have to wait for a Reagan-like figure to magically appear. Sorry bud, but that kind of leader will never again emerge in the Republican party – The establishment will NOT allow it.

          Don’t be a fool. You’re not dealing with a bunch of boy scouts out here. These RINOs are after power, and they mean to consolidate and hold onto it.

          • johnos2112

            Not if the those that donate say SCREW YOU and then SAY BRING IN A TRUE CONSERVATIVE to run the RNC!

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          Third parties never work.

          Until they do.

          See Lincoln, Abraham.

          • johnos2112

            The RNC just needs to return to conservative principles.  RNC needs to embrace uplifting people and explaining cradle to grave dependence is not good for anybody.  Explain many principled conservatives are of minority descent.  This is not tough folks.  We just have to embrace the problem.  Go after these liberal bastards and defeat them!

            • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

              Sure. Trouble is, half the Republic party refuses to accept what you just wrote.

              • johnos2112

                If the donors show their wallets and say piss off unless there is change then they will listen!

    • Orangeone

      We gained one in the Senate with Ted Cruz!

      • johnos2112

        Uh Rubio when he ran and countless other from 2010.  Nice try!

        • Orangeone

          What are you talking about.  We gain Ted Cruz on 11/6/12!

          BTW, Rubio is a RINO, he supports amnesty for illegals.

          • mike3e4r7

            Totally agree about Rubio. Rubio and Christy are two of a kind.

            Ted Cruz was one of the few bright spots in the election.

          • johnos2112

            How many tea party candidates won  in 2010?  That is my point.  Those principles work!

          • aposematic

            We need to stop referring to squish/moderate/liberal R’s as RINOs and face the fact that they are the Republican Party…Conservatives and Libertarians are the real RINO’s.

    • Arrrggghhh
      • Martin2717

        Agreed here too, although I wish we’d do away with all political parties.

    • aposematic

      The fat cat fools will never let that happen but the past two elections sure does point out that the leftist squish folly the GOP has embraced doesn’t work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Wojcik/1252071956 Rich Wojcik

    Boehner – stop pretending!!! – join DemocRats….
    S H A M E

    • iaintlyin

      He’s only sticking around for the bourbon, the libs drink wine.

    • ChesterWalton

      Stop eating our own – if you disagree with current republican leadership, make the tea party official and get candidates in there.

      • white531

        That is the solution I favor, too.

      • MiketheMarine

        Stop eating our own? You mean like the establishment did when THEY CHOSE Romney and destroyed the other conservative candidates? Bovine excrement. It is the party that is guilty of ignoring their base. THAT is why the GOP hasn’t beaten an incumbent democrat but once in 100 years. Wake up.

        • ChesterWalton

          So the base didn’t turn out and that is why Romney and a slew of R senate candidates lost?

          • MiketheMarine

            NO, they lost because the RNC has not the first flipping idea how to communicate effectively beyond telling the TEA party to fall in line. Their ears and their brains are not connected. They all lost because you support an old boy’s club that believe they know better. I’m hear to tell you, Generation X-ers will not be told to fall in line. It is our time. The RNC has been taking in the ass in the name of “compromise for 40+ years while the other side has figured out how to pass socialist policies while telling the MAJOR in this country that they don’t even want to HEAR our opinions. If that is what your party has to offer, well, they have nothing to offer.

            • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

              I’d set Akin aside from that. His screwup lost the race, and no amount of support was going to change it.

              But on the others you are totally, 100% correct.

              • MiketheMarine

                I disagree . His foul-up was bad BUT it made national head lines when the republicans pointed it out to the entire country then withheld financial support. He was right in that race even with the screw up. His voters didn’t care that much about it. It was the special interest groups and the RNC that brought it to a national head.

                • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                  Yeah. It stayed in the headlines because the first dipsh*t on the right to make a big stink over it was Carl Rove. Just like he submarined Christine O’Donnell. What a waste of oxygen that man has become.

                • MiketheMarine

                  So, you mean after my follow up statement, I was a true 100% correct? Hot dog…..

                • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                  Hah!

                  Hmmm. With enough qualifiers, even I could be 100% correct.

                  Anyone got qualifiers?

                  Help a brother out out?

                • MiketheMarine

                  Don’t take this away from me. I am a conservative who lives in Maryland. I never get to be right at home.

                  LOL

                • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                  MikeTheMarine, ladies and gentlemen! One Hundred Percent Right!

                • MiketheMarine

                  Hahahahaha, boy, that’s nice to here once in a while. Fragile ego, ya understand. LOL

              • ChesterWalton

                Thank you K-Bob. Hannity instantly saw the light on this one and implored Akin to drop out. Mourdock primaried an republican lock seat. Angle was a disaster of conservative/liberal contradictions and O’Donnell was a joke. Why couldn’t R’s win MT and ND?

                • MiketheMarine

                  K- Bob just replied to my follow up below this. Rove submarined Akin. AN RNC establishment guy. You are wrong.

                • ChesterWalton

                  I respect your opinion, but facts are facts. Hannity, Palin, Talent, Blunt, Ashcroft, etc., I could go on for paragraphs ALL wanted Akin out. Heck, Palin knew the guy was a flawed candidate from the get go. MO voters, as is their right, ignored her. Trying to primary a sitting respected republican senator in a state that went blue in 2008 is a very risky proposition. Trying to primary a sitting republican senator in a safe Red state (Utah), not so risky.

                • MiketheMarine

                  And that is our point, exactly. Who decided that Hannity, Palin, Talent, Blunt, Ashcroft etc. should decide who we should and shouldn’t support? They are not the conservative final word judge and jury. That is the job of the voter. That list of people you mention there are the Problem with the RNC. It wasn’t their job to turn Akin’s misspeak into national news. They are enemies of true conservatives. If they were in my fighting hole in combat and were telling the enemy my weak point I would put bullets in their heads for that.

                • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                  Angle, Mourdock, and O’Donnel were all capable of winning if the party had backed them.

                  None of them is as big a joke as a typical Democrat. That’s the biggest problem the Republicans have: they are stuck on White Knight Syndrome, Stupid. Hence Romney. The loser.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000115674819 Jeannie Clarke

                  Oh, but the architect had a whole list of RINOs ready to replace him with and they would have been the ones making that call. Their hand picked minions might have won the seat but wouldn’t have been any better than McCaskill. After Akin’s foot-in-mouth statement, only a woman stood a chance to beat McCaskill. Sarah Steelman should have been the nominee. She would have won that seat easily – but then again, she was butting heads with the MO republican machine. She had the audacity to call them on some of their games.

        • BikerHoop

          ” Bovine excrement.”

          Bwhahahahaha! Good one, Mike.

  • Nukeman60

    I just heard Reid on TV this morning say, “It’s better to dance than to fight”. Really, Harry? Where has the dance been the last four years. This is the first US Senate that I can remember that made it through four years without doing one single, constructive thing. Not even a budget, which is their number one task.

    And Boehner? He was invisible for months and didn’t show up until it was announced that the House would remain Republican. Woohoo. He immediately comes out, gives a victory speech (like he even did anything to help that situation), and now he’s all over the airwaves talking crap.

    I can’t wait for the day when Boehner, McConnell, Reid, and Pelosi are no longer with us politically. What a total waste of space (and that’s just between their ears).

  • Not4TheGimmeParty

    It sickens me, however, in the very least, the “blame Bush” and “blame Republicans” theme is no longer going to work. What shocks me is the amount of CongressCritters and leaders (BiBi) who are suddenly trying to bow to Dear Leader Barry. Enough.

    • DavidRobertson

      It will work. If it worked for an entire first term, there is nothing of evidence that proves blaming the GOP or Bush won’t work going forward.

  • Yazz55

    The obamessiah & dingy harry really to have the GOP over a barrel on this tax increase. Because, if congress does nothing, a massive tax increase is foisted on the American people.

    • Orangeone

      And that is what needs to happen. The Senate and WH are Dem so their voters need to see that they are ultimately responsible for the consequences. Once you give in to blackmail and thuggery the country is forever lost. Let the tax hikes go in effect! Businesses need to tell their employees they are being laid off because of the re-election, BarkyTaxCare and the tax hikes. Suck it up libtards, you need to feel the pain of what you voted for.

      • Yazz55

        That could really crash the USA economy to a depression that would make what prez ponzi scheme (fdr) did in the 1930’s look like a picnic in perspective.

        In turn that leaves about 2 options;
        1. military coup
        2. civil war / revolution

        Otherwise the USA is dead. Just a matter of time. And I can’t predict the timeline.

        • Orangeone

          The military will be on our side.  We need another civil war to regain our country.

  • Wigglesworth111

    I say renew all the current rates or let them expire. Democrats can run on how wonderful all the tax increase are in next midterm. Either everyone pays more or nobody pays more. The rich already pay a huge chunk of the tax burden.

    • MiketheMarine

      The idea I have seen posed that I kind of like is for the house repubs to only vote present for two years and let the dams have everything they think they want. You and I already know it is going to have to get very bad before things turn around so why not accelerate the process. The trick will be to survive longer than the typical democrat voter. Most of them are gold brick, dead beats anyway so I think two years of passing anything the dems want should be sufficient to crushing the dem base.

      • RosiesSeeingRed

        Oh, it was YOU Mike! I’ve been repeating the “Vote Present” idea wherever I go since, trying to remember, who among the hundreds of responses, had said it in the first place! Why am I not surprised. You really SHOULD run!!!

        Anyway, as you can see, I sent your fine idea off to my congressman this morning, as posted in my earlier comment.

        • MiketheMarine

          You write an effective letter. I am only wading into the fray a little at a time. Trying to contain my anger, disappointment, etc.

      • NHConservative0221

        I understand the frustration but under your scenario what’s the point of having control of the House?

        In that case all the Repubs should just quit and let the Dems get 100% control.

        All spending bills have to start in the House. Don’t pass any bipartisan compromises that lead to tyranny. Force obama to abuse his power to bypassthe House to get what he wants. Show everyone how ruthless and what a disgrace he is.

        • MiketheMarine

          Ok, I’ll explain my theory a little. The biggest problem with the democrat base is pure ignorance and greed. Well, the best way to educate them at this point is to let the system bankrupt itself. It is going to happen, anyway. If the House resists, it will only drag it out. If they roll over and allow it to accelerate one of two things will happen. The truly odwn and outers will be homeless and / or die. The economy will keep tanking. If it gets bad enough, fast enough either the democrat politicians try to slow or reverse it or they won’t and the money WILL run out.

          After the federal government is bankrupt and only absolutely required sections are open and the rest is shut down due to bankruptcy, then we tell China to kiss our collective asses over the debt and rebuild the federal government from the bottom up. The entire country will understand, at that time, why communism requires huge amounts of somebody elses money. Dry up the supply, end the experiment.

          The House cannot prevent this from happening. At best, they can delay it but why do that? Why drag out our suffering?

          • IwjwI

            Why extend the suffering? To let Obama voters really feal the hurt long enough to wish that they hadn’t voted for him. A good ol’ fashioned economic butt kicking to wake them up and start educating themselves on why their vote matters.

            How will they feel when their ‘free’ Obamaphones get shut down because Obama can’t afford them anymore? They will hate him when all their ‘free’ stuff starts to disappear.

            • MiketheMarine

              You are making my point for me! DNC voter base is ignorant and greedy. The quickest way to making them homeless and broke and realize how wrong they are is to bankrupt the system. We doin’t want it extended because the money they spend while we delay is OUR MONEY. It is going to get worse for a while. I’d rather is get much worse very quickly to shorten the depression. Why drag it out? The people we are trying to impress are too stupid to care until the cash is gone. The people we hurt most by dragging it out is the working, tax paying public. Not the ghetto trash.

            • Orangeone

              No they won’t. They will despise Repubs even more. The control is in the taxes paid. If all businesses go to $0 net profit, there is $0 federal and state corporate taxes paid. Dry up the monetary supply from the outside. Lay off people, tell them no jobs when they call to inquire, and tell them no jobs until full Repub WH, Senate and House.

        • MiketheMarine

          Your comment about all bills starting in the house USED TO be accurate when the Constitution meant something. No longer. Maobama now rules by fiat, or executive order, if you prefer. Do you know that he has already passed an executive order that states that in the event of martial law, the feds can seize all bank accounts? Didn’t know that did you.

        • Orangeone

          And for every EO Barky Boy issues, file another impeachment charge. Keep up the pressure and do your bloody job!

      • Orangeone

        Or simply vote no on everything. Do not fund anything, do not stop the tax hikes, do not pass a budget, etc.

    • Nukeman60

      The problem with the Liberal position on the rich is this. The rich won’t suffer. They have already made their money. That’s why they are sitting on the sidelines and not hiring right now, because it’s not fiscally feasable for them. If they have to, they will pull their money out and sit on foreign accounts or bonds. If they get taxed too much, they will pass that cost down the line to the middle class and still end up not suffering.

      The average Joe is the one who always suffers when the government tries to take from the rich.

      • IwjwI

        If they voted for Obama, they need to suffer the consequences.

        • Orangeone

          It’s easy to punish the Hollyweirdos that funded the campaign. Don’t go to their movies, don’t download their music, don’t go to their concerts. Look at Madonna. She still has people walking out on her!

      • white531

        True statement. We all remember what happened several years ago, when they tried to impose a luxury tax on yachts. The companies just moved to the Bahamas.

  • RosiesSeeingRed

    I sent this to my Congressman today:

    Congressman Garrett,

    First, let me congratulate you on your win on Tuesday. I am beyond delighted that you will continue to represent us here in the 5th District of NJ. As you can well imagine, I am heartbroken that Barack Obama has been reelected. Though I am not convinced that every swing state was won fairly and honestly (for example, Mia Love, who was solidly ahead in the polls, LOST on Tuesday — WHY?), the reality is, Barack Obama will be president for the next 4 years, and the Senate is still controlled by the liberals.

    I truly believe this country will suffer the consequences of this election, as Obama himself told us 4 years ago when he said “elections have consequences.” The question is, do we want to die a slow death, or do we want to get it over with as quickly as possible so that we can begin rebuilding this country from the ruins as soon as possible? I choose the latter.

    I would like to humbly suggest that the Republicans in Congress stand aside and allow the democrats to move forward with their agenda. Accelerating the inevitable, while putting them FULLY in charge of it, will be the only way we’ll win back a percentage of the 50% who voted for him. The people who voted for the “cool” president will not understand the ramifications unless they begin to suffer the consequences. Yes, we will all suffer, but we’re going to anyway. The question is, do we want it dragged out, only to have the Republicans blamed because they stood in the way of the democrats? Or do we want to let the democrats own it?

    Let the Democrats do what they want with the taxes. If they think taxing the wealthiest people in the country will solve the enormous deficit Obama creates each year or make any difference whatsoever in the debt, then let them do it. Let the country watch what happens when the already-taxed small business owners lay off workers or close up shop completely, and the wealthiest of citizens move permanently to their second homes in other countries. Vote present, abstain — do whatever you have to do to avoid being held responsible for the consequences. Let the democrats own this economy, own their ridiculous policies, and let the consequences begin. I truly believe it is the ONLY way to bring citizens to their senses.

    • Nukeman60

      Two points in regards to your excellent post.

      One, Isn’t it interesting that the pundits all say the polls were all correct after all, even though we all know the sentiment wasn’t running in line with the polls (only the final results were in line with the polls, or just the opposite, to be accurate). But then, along comes the polls that had Mia Love in control and she loses. The common denominator was the Dems were being elected and the Repubs were not. Something is truly strange in these election results.

      Two, the problem with stepping aside and letting the Dems put their agendas through is simply the corrupt MSM and their power. As seen before, it doesn’t matter whether the Repubs were in control or not, the media always puts forth the idea that it was the Repubs fault and the populace falls for it.

      It was all Bush’s fault in ’06-’08, even though the Dems controlled Congress. It was all the Repubs fault in ’08-’10, even though, once again the Dems had control (and with a super majority). In ’10-’12, it was the Repubs fault, even though the Senate was controlled by the Dems and no matter what budget or bill the House passed, the Senate (or Reid, to be exact) sat on it, killing the bill.

      In ’12-’14, whether the Repubs vote ‘present’ or not, they will get the blame for failed bills because they did nothing, and they will be blamed for successful bills because they didn’t help. The answer is to destroy the corrupt MSM, by getting the “New Guardians” (the 5th estate) to push the truth and convince the people.

      • RosiesSeeingRed

        So how do we destroy them? What’s the New Guardians? Where do we begin?

        Andrew Breitbart was 100% correct that the MSM is our greatest enemy.

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          Speaking of which, for what it’s worth, Beck is soliciting folks to subscribe, so he can build up his network.

          Sometimes I wonder about Beck. But right now, I’ll support his efforts. His aim is to replace the cable news channels, and expand into news coverage online that replaces the Obama/Media complex.

          I think I’ll go mention this in the Open Thread.

          • Nukeman60

            I’m always one to avoid paying any extra money for things I think I can get online for free (I have Comcast, not direct TV, so Beck’s direct TV network is out), but for a mere $10/month, his word is worth the money to get out.

            • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

              I’m with you there, brother. I refuse to pay for news, generally. You can always find it for free.

              If you could get high-speed internet with Dish Network, then I might replace my comcast account.

              Those Dish guys are pretty sharp, since they are welcoming to things like RFD TV and a lot of right-side programming.

              Of course, they also have Skinemax and and CCTV (China). I haven’t seen Al Jazeera on my lineup yet, but they do have an Arabic package you can order.

              • Nukeman60

                Thanks for the info. I’ll check into it. I haven’t liked the way Comcast has been raising my rates every year anyway.

            • KenInMontana

              Beck is on Dish Network, not Directv, just in case you were considering subscribing to get it, because they will rob you if you want to get out of a contract.

              • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                Man, all “communications” companies are like that. Try to get out from under their umbrella, and they make it really difficult.

              • Nukeman60

                Wow. Thanks for that info. Image my consternation if I were to cancel Comcast for DirectTV and then wonder where the heck Beck was. lol.

        • Nukeman60

          The New Guardians is the title I have given to the 5th estate (basically, us – alternate media and citizen journalists).

          What we do is push back. Push back with the truth every time they come out with lies. The Republican politicians let them get away with almost every lie they put out there without so much as a whimper. I say we whimper, and whimper loud, with a sharp smack, as our hand hits them in the back of the head. We must not let one lie get past.

          Newt Gingrich showed a fine example of what I’m talking about during the debates. We also need to ensure Levin, Limbaugh, Malkin, Palin, Beck, whoever we can get, to talk these issues long and loud (many already do) and then we pass them around as much as possible. We use the social media to an extent that we have never used it before.

          We have already started. This year was a start on how we countered the MSM, but there must be more and more. As we grow stronger and the MSM grows weaker, it will become easier and easier.

          • RosiesSeeingRed

            I like it. I was saying to my sister this morning that big businesses who were hoping for a Romney win should put some of their money into taking out ads in newspapers to directly blame the Obama administration for things like massive layoffs, prices rising, etc. Newspapers are broke enough to accept their advertising, I’m sure of it. Full page ads, internet ads — whatever it takes. Everywhere we turn, we need to somehow bypass the MSM and just start hammering the truth… here’s what Obama did….here’s the consequence.

          • Orangeone

            Friends, look at what the media hid from us until after the election. Iran fired on a US drone.

            http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/08/first-on-cnn-iranian-jets-fire-on-u-s-drone/

            • Nukeman60

              I’ve been seeing that on FOX right now. It’s just one more negative story that would have hurt Obama. If all the stories had been known to the public, these people would have been faced with stark reality of who we really have in the white house.

              I’ve got my boxing gloves on. I sure hope a newsperson doesn’t come to my door right now. It might not be a pretty sight.

              • Orangeone

                Pull him inside first Nuke so you can say you were defending your property.

                • Nukeman60

                  Good point.

                  I understand, if you shoot ‘em, they better fall forward, so ya gotta grab hold first, then pull the trigger. heh.

                • Orangeone

                  LOL, good one Nuke!

    • NHConservative0221

      I understand your reasoning but I think it’s the wrong approach. We need to continue the fight and try to put up as much gridlock as possible.

      Try to make the libs modify their radical agenda,otherwise gridlock!

    • IwjwI

      Exactly. While many of us have stored away provisions for 2, or more years, including a tractor trailer full of stacked wood, over 6,000 pieces thus far, guns and ammo, including an AK-47, food, etc., those Obama voters who aren’t ready, need to extremely suffer the consequences of their vote.

      I’ll help take care of any Conservative that can help contribute to my survival camp.
      All others, including any Obama voter, will be turned away.
      Sorry, but I’m not being very charitable to those who voted for slavery.

      • RosiesSeeingRed

        I hear ya! I don’t feel very charitable either. Like little kids who need to be taught a lesson — the time has come. Any of us who are parents know how difficult it is to let your own child suffer the consequences of their choices, but that is often the only way the lesson will be learned. So it will be painful for us grown-ups in society too, but it must be done.

        My blanket response to all the liberals I know (some of them close friends, who I LITERALLY feel contempt for right now, and I hope I can get over that soon), when they start to whine about taxes going up, the cost of groceries or gas, wives/husbands/children being moved from full-time to part time positions so that employers can avoid paying the insurance penalty, forcing THEM to pay the penalty unless they buy health insurance….. my response will be “Stop whining — you voted for this, and in the words of YOUR president, “ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!”

        • Orangeone

          RSR, you have the exact right approach! We should all have yard signs that say, You Get What You Vote For & Elections Have Consequences. Enjoy Your 4 More Years.

      • Orangeone

        And they are in NY and NJ. Stop sending donations. Let them suffer, go without food, electricity, heat, bathrooms, fresh water. And let Bloomers, Cuomo and Christie go right down with them. They praised Barky Boy being presidential promising not to leave them behind. Where is he now when the Nor’easter hit? Cozied up spending our money.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Nicely done.

      One thing to expect when the wealthy start getting taxed, is that it will appear to work. For a while. Then it will accelerate toward maximum DOOM! So Obama will come out looking like a winner. At first.

      Cowlyfornia just tried this. They passed some referendum increasing taxes on the wealthy. Who will all start moving to Texas to hide from it (and begin infecting Texas with their liberal crap in the process). But for a budget round or two, it will make room for more spending. Just what they need.

      • RosiesSeeingRed

        NY, and I think Delaware (or was it Maryland?) also did the same thing, and it backfired on both of them. There is a clip somewhere (I’ve been looking for it for like a year) of a local interview of Gov. Patterson at the time answering a question about whether raising the taxes on the rich in NY had paid off, and his answer was that he was surprised when it turned out they collected LESS in taxes, by a considerable amount too.

        When will they ever learn?

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          I think for some people the only way an idea will ever get in their mind is when the more medieval solutions are employed.

      • MiketheMarine

        Governor Brown just asked Maobama for a bail out. Want to bet a trillion dollars that the Mao-man bails them out with our money and no guarantee to recollect our losses?

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          California needs to split into two states. Just make sure all the leftists are on the left of the San Andreas.

          Just in case.

  • WhiteGuy2

    Hold the line you spineless rino! Or your party is history!

  • Sober_Thinking

    Boehner will do nothing to stop the bleeding… he is a phony and a spineless liar.

    Reid is an enemy of this country.

    Obama is a traitor.

    I find that this 4 years, I may have to stop watching the news because honestly, I can’t take this Washington B.S. anymore. It’ll be the same thing as last session… except this time, the freaking Republicans will cave even more than they already have.

    • ChesterWalton

      If conservatives don’t agree with republicans, then they should takek the next step and form the official tea party, because republicans needs to cut a deal with the pres or their party is done.

      • MiketheMarine

        There party IS done. If they negotiate with the president, then they are called democrats.

        • ChesterWalton

          Yours is a minority and shallow view.

          • MiketheMarine

            Do you recall how well and effectively the DNC negotiated with conservatives during the stimulus bill and Maobamacare? They look conservatives out of the room. They got ZERO votes from any conservatives. They stated that first you must vote in favor of the bill in order to learn what was in it. Is that what you suggest we allow happen? They lock us out of the room but we should smooch their asses to keep from getting fleeced? I don’t know if you are bright enough to see it but we are being fleeced every single day. Maobamacare is now the law and about 70% of the public is against it. Your party is dead. They committed suicide by blowing off the energized portion of their base. They told us to fall in line or else. WEll, we did fall in line and they managed to LOSE anyway.

            Now, it is our turn. You can call me shallow all you want, but guess who’s vote they will never get again. Plus, I don’t know if you’ve noticed but far more people agree with me and are sick of your old, white, grey haired, RINO party. They haven’t done a damn thing for me or mine since Reagan. You can join our bandwagon or continue to support the losers. I don’t much care.

          • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

            Looks like you won’t see it coming.

            Pat Caddell already said it: we’re witnessing the second fall of the Whig party.

            How many of us do you think will listen to Carl Rove now? The people who think he is worth listening to are in the shallow minority. Tuesday’s turnout proved that, if nothing else.

            • MiketheMarine

              Right on. When the TEA party was powering the elections in 2010 we had a sweep and now that the RINO party took over, they couldn’t even take control of a do nothing senate. Pathetic….

              • Sober_Thinking

                Spot on.

            • Sober_Thinking

              You are right my friend.

          • Orangeone

            You are gravely mistaken. Romney lost because true conservatives would not support a RINO.

            • ChesterWalton

              Keep thinking that, losing elections may grow on you over time.

              • Sober_Thinking

                Alright… I thought you were trying to make a valid point. If you’re just being a troll, then get the heck out of this blog… the world is already too full of snarky, ignorant people. I hope you’re not one of them.

            • Sober_Thinking

              You are correct. I think that was one of the biggest contributing factors.

      • Sober_Thinking

        I think a great many REAL conservatives (Tea Party) chose not to vote for a moderate. We are sick to death of the Republican idiots compromising and doing many of the same things that the accursed Democrats do. We have shell-shocked, spineless leadership in the Republican party (Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, etc.) who are not only impotent and sightless, but also corrupt.

        So, you make a valid point. We must form a third party to confront both evils or America is doomed. And you’re also right… the Republicans are too weak and will likely cave… at least their pathetic, lap-dog leadership will. There are a few rock solid folks up there who are posing as Republicans right now (they’re really Tea Party folks)… and that helps. But things have to change dramatically for things to get better. The damned Democrats have sold out to the devil and many Republicans are following suit.

        I’m independent and will proudly and passionately support a 3rd party in 2016.

  • faustinamax

    Sorry for the ignorant question(s)….but can someone explain why the Prez wins “by default” with a stalemate? Wouldn’t it make him look bad as it breaks his promises for bi-partisanship while simultaneously tanking the economy? It is possible that Boehner is just positioning himself as the conciliary half of this negotiation so when things fall apart he can point back to his words/efforts and step away from the mess that is coming (on behalf of all Republicans)?

    Thanks, RS members….I discovered you during the election and am so grateful for voices of reason!

    • RosiesSeeingRed

      It’s gonna be a long 4 years …. we need to stick together. It’s good to have another voice here at TRS.

      • faustinamax

        Thanks, RSR…..great to be here, especially during times like these!

      • poljunkie

        RSR, I just read that Corey Booker is seriously thinking of challenging Christie.
        So much for that Dem love.

        http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/cory-booker-weighs-run-against-christie/

        Sorry RScoop.

        • RosiesSeeingRed

          Well, that’s been the word around here for quite some time. Perhaps Christie thought if he had a love fest with Obama, the Dems wouldn’t challenge him. Like I said in the other thread, Christie destroyed his own career last week… it’s in shambles, just like his beloved Jersey shore.

          • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

            Any truth to the rumor I just started that they are making a movie about The Mommas and The Papas, and they want him to play Mama Cass?

            • Orangeone

              K-Bob, you are the absolute best for making me giggle like a little girl today!

              • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

                Heh. All part of the service.

        • Orangeone

          NJ will be blue no matter what. Let them drown along with NY.

    • Orangeone

      Thank you for joining us! We are a great community of brainstormers that love this country.

      • faustinamax

        It is great to know we are all in this together….I can tell I am in good company!

  • http://twitter.com/MarkCooper Mark Cooper

    He was gracious in victory, why are you all so ungracious in defeat?

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

      • KenInMontana

        It is going by the definition in the official “O-troll” dictionary.

    • MiketheMarine

      You are looking at it wrong. Maobama wants a socialist country and those of us that are angry over this are the ones who will have money stolen by the fed to give to ghetto rats and illegal aliens. That’s what happens when you grow up and they are using your hard work and cash to pay for those who refuse to work.

    • mike3e4r7

      He has never been gracious. Remember him taunting the Republicans last term with the “I won” comment? Or how about, “you can all come along for the ride – just don’t do alot of talking”. I have many more examples. Shall I go on?

  • scarolina1

    I don’t believe biapartisanship has a place in goverment besides the for one issue and that being for the common defense of this country. In my opinion the less bipartisanship in goverment the better and this leads to less government overall. This a good for everyone concern. After all our Founding Fathers did not show much bipartisanship whe it came to writing the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It took Our Founding Fathers how long to accomplish this issue.Maybe if they practice more non partisanshihip they would not have as many issues to resolve, because the lobbist would come to the conclusion there is no point to rasing the issue, because it would take to long to resolve the issue and this fact in it self would lead to less government and better laws. Then maybe we can reduce the time spent in D.C. by our Reps. Then they can spend more time in there own Districts and learn the real issues that matter to there Constituants.

    • MiketheMarine

      Right on. Dismantle the fed, leave it to the states. The way it was intended.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PKPFHLKVWBX7STYLKFSY4QCVF4 Frank

    no no no, I don’t smoke it no more, I’m tired of wakin’ up on the floor.
    No thank you please, it only makes me sneeze, and then it make it hard to find the door.

    Love it. Boehner and legal pot, blowin smoke either way.

  • Brooklyn_NY_Conservative

    thefoxnewschannel.blogspot.com

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    Why should the Republicans in the House compromise on anything? We are all going off the financial cliff on 1 January, so Obama has bought it. Let him eat it. If the economy collapses as a result of sequestration, Obama CANNOT blame it on Bush. It was his deal with the Republicans in the House, so now let him live with it. Maybe a dose of fiscal reality is just what Reid and the Democrats need to convince them that it’s time to reduce spending, not just constantly raise taxes.

    • MiketheMarine

      Our new platform MUST BE RECIPROCITY. Lock us out of the room? NO worries, we will vote against it. Refuse to pass a budget? Then NOTHING gets done. I’m tired of the PC crap and being told to be a good little soldier and get it line. It’s all for the greater good.

      I say, Bull crap. It isn’t for the greater good whan only HALF of us are paying for it.

    • Orangeone

      Boenig announced their sequestration layoffs today, 30% of management (big salaries and large tax amounts). Cannot wait to see them all in the foreclosure process and unemployment line. Elections Have Consequences.

      Another company bought off by Barky to hold off until after the election.

  • Orangeone

    The rates need to go up for everyone. Over half of this country voted for the slime in office and now they need to pay the piper.

    • Landscaper

      30% on welfare checks, food stamps and free obama-phones sounds like a good start to me.

  • LIBERTYUSA

    …compromising with Mao Obama ACT II , it is DANCING with the D E V I L my friends, it will send the U.S.of A. to FINANCIAL ARMAGEDDON . So my American friends grab your BIBLES , GUNS and GOLD and head to them HILLS.”

    ELECTIONS DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES !

  • BOPOS

    Time for a new party. Combine Tea Party, constitution party etc. come up with a new letter to represent the real people

  • bjohnson55

    The Republicans have painted themselves into a corner and have no options other than bend over. Boehner is a joke and the 65% of Republicans who didn’t ever bother to go to the poles and vote this election are finding out the joke is on all of us because they didn’t vote. I voted I have the right to bitch, the 65% who didn’t vote had better just STFU.

  • white531

    I like the current discussion here, about a new Party. Certainly not easy to accomplish, but I like the idea.

    If the idea interests you, or at least you’re not totally against it, I found a site online, that talks about it. I don’t agree with everything in the article, but it does make some excellent points, and goes over the necessary items required, to initiate a new Party. I would like your opinion on it, especially, MiketheMarine. Here are the opening paragraphs, just to tease you into reading the whole thing.

    “The Democratic Party proudly offers economic security and more benefits for the poor and working class – in return for more taxes, more regulations, and forfeiting our personal and local community independence. The Republicans offer to protect us from the Democrats and then turn around and grant subsidies for the super rich and build prisons for the poor. The resulting wealth gap creates more demand for the moderate socialism offered Democrats. And then we have the big government Republicans like George Bush who offer us the worst of both worlds…

    Year by year we lose we lose freedom and independence to the one-two punch of government and corporate bureaucracy. Politicians promise change, but actually offer the same two stale options: moderate socialism or wage serfdom.”

    Here’s the link for the entire article. It’s too big to copy here. Pay attention to the comments at the end. Some are pretty good.

    http://www.holisticpolitics.org/NewParty/NewPartyManual.php

  • http://twitter.com/mjh4259 Mary

    I’m with Michelle. Call their bluff.

  • Conniption Fitz

    In my mind, I’m walking up to Boehner, telling him to bend over, giving him a swift kick in the nether end… so hard that when he wakes up he’s in a frozen spot north of Canada in another decade and has amnesia.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJGP4QXZ5PRW2MFA5E25CV2WNU rosalie

      I like that image. Could you please include McConnell in your image?

  • David1au

    I’ve been saying this for years, that Obama WANTS the USA to fail. His whole agenda is to destroy the USA and turn it into a flaccid has been.

    • DebbyX

      WE won’t let that happen!

  • aposematic

    Romney’s concession speech pointed out why I believe he lost the election: time for partisanship to end in W.DC. Puke! Its time for the Right to order the cement trucks pooring an un-scalable wall in the isle…period. Let the Dems self destruct. I’m so tired of the R’s bailing out the D’s and then getting blamed for the D’s “unintended” destruction that always results.