By The Right Scoop


Of all the stories I expected to hear about, this wasn’t one of them. And the sad part about it is that this Southern Baptist congregation has to wear the shame of racism of a small minority in the church, including a spineless pastor:

According to USA Today, the pastor said he was simply trying to be a peacemaker:

The Rev. Stan Weatherford was asked why he gave into the wishes of the members who didn’t want the wedding held at the First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs.

“I was just trying to think about a win-win,” he said Sunday to the Clarion-Ledger. “The thing is, I’m a peacemaker, and sometimes because I’m a peacemaker it gets me in trouble. The thing about it is this: I love the people of our church and that’s the bottom line.”

I’m not buying the ‘peacemaker’ argument – I call BS. My suspicion is that this pastor has something to hide and the people who complained about the black couple marrying in the church know about it, and that’s why this pastor caved to them. I don’t know why else a pastor would allow the reputation of his church to become labeled as racist, especially in this political environment. Just doesn’t make sense.

Because of the absurdity of this pastor’s actions, I hereby award this pastor and his church the triple facepalm award:

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RYQGFT3TATTTVUI6MRT7PVTGWA kyle m.

    Absolutely disgusting. Assuming this is a Southern Baptist church, the Southern Baptist Convention needs to disfellowship not only the minister but the entire church.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    Beware of false prophets. That pastor is a coward pure and simple. Oh and thanks for fulfilling the continuing stereotype about the ‘racist South’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    Unbelievable – If you don’t want to see them married in the Church

    Simply don’t go to the ceremony

    SCOOP is right –

    The Pastor is spineless and apparently has some brushing up to do on Christian beliefs

    The Pastor is a stooge!

  • WordsFailMe

    They were not members. What is the church policy for marrying couples who are not members? I think Catholics and Mormons, Buddhists, Lutherans and just about every other church I can think of pretty much limits its ceremonies to its members.

    Seems like this couple is expecting a Church to fall under tha same laws as a motel or a Denny’s.

    If you get an attorney to sue a church for not allowing you to marry under its roof, how much can you get? Will attorneys take this one on contingency or will they want a little up front?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RYQGFT3TATTTVUI6MRT7PVTGWA kyle m.

      The church had approved the wedding. They cancelled the wedding at the last minute and the coward minister found another church and married them there. I’m not sure why they still wanted him to marry them. A lot of churches will allow their chapels or sanctuary to be used for weddings of non-members for a fee. Usually some pastoral counseling is required to make sure the couple agrees with the tenets of faith of the congregation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

      Catholics invite all to join as far as I know

      Before marriage – simply go to a few classes and speak with a Priest

      Donations always encouraged of course

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

        A bit more than that… But you’re basically right.
        Except the donations bit… I never attended a church that overlooked Catholic Cannon for money.

        • WordsFailMe

          Catholic Priests, Baptist ministers, et all, will happily marry you in your back yard, at a hotel or while sky diving from 12,000 feet. But a church is more than a pastor. A church is the body of those who have supported it, many for years and some for many years after their deaths. Is it too much too ask that those being married on its premises be members? Is that racism?

          Is everything that happens to a black American racism? Is there some government agency that has a purview over who MUST be married in churches now?

          This is not an issue. If the black couple now wishes to join this church or another, they are FREE. Freedom is what it’s all about, yes?

          • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

            Heh! I never knew any Catholic Priest that would marry you outside of of his church and that with 6 weeks (at least) of meetings and discussion with the priest (and the prospective couple or course) about Marriage… He would raise the “thorny” questions about “children”… Religion… etc… Which I feel helped the couple confront the questions that they should address… The whole point… To ensure this couple really knew each other and understood each other expectations from marriage…

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

            That’s why you and others fought – and won!

          • SaraPFan

            You’re not too bright. Re-watch the video again. The married couple specifically stated they were told that in the history of the church no black couple have ever been married there.

            The pastor also married them in a church down the street. Why would he do that? There are two white members who specifically stated that there were a few members that were upset before the ceremony which the pastor cave to but they wish the couple would reconsider leaving the church.

          • James1754

            No everything that happens to blacks is not racism. This however appears to be. I agree that the members, as a whole, should decide who gets married in their church. But if the reason was what the gentleman in the video stated, “That no blacks had ever been married in that church.” The what else would you call it but racism. It most certainly is not christian.

            • WordsFailMe

              I agree with you and here’s why. Morality is NOT something that the government controls. We must not have laws which say that you are a criminal if you do not like someone for the least rational reasons.

              Liberals, communists progressives are trying to get Americans to give up their consciences, give up their ancient abilities and give up the responsibilities as Christians and American citizens to share and enforce their morality on their own group without force, without some slimy politician claiming credit and putting the National Guard out to punish a man for calling another a vulgar name.

              That community has earned what it will get from real people with real feeling and real morality like you.

              The government must no be allowed to replace religion, morality and decency with law. Since God is not here, at hand to fight this battle in our time, we must fight it.

              That pastor is despicable. That congregation is despicable. And they will get what they deserve but if a communist/socialist/progressive government seeks to intervene between this church and their members and their fate, they better plan to step over my dead body.

              I hope some of this makes sense. Thank you for taking the time and energy to respond! Glad you are on Right Scoop, the right place to be.

              • James1754

                I believe that the only way the government will be involved in this will be in a civil court case. If I were the couple I would not bother, I would just find another church. After all, who wants to go the church with a bunch of hypocrites?

                • WordsFailMe

                  Ur my new hero James!

      • sjmom

        My son and fiancee, both Catholics, have decided to marry at Mass but at a church at the shore resort where they met and had their first date. The local parish church told them they can marry there but must find their own priest. I tried and others are trying to find them someone. I even called the Diocese and the priest “in charge of the area” but to no avail. I am befuddled and bemused at the same time because as a summer resort area they have no problem with taking their money when attending Mass while visiting there.

        Nobody makes it easy these days even when you are trying to do the right thing. Sad, very sad.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I wasn’t a member of the Baptist church when I got married in one. I was Episcopalian, my then husband was Penticostle.

    • keyesforpres

      You can’t go into the Mormon Tabernacle if you aren’t Mormon. My mom had a friend whose daughter married a Mormon and they would not let her in…the mother of the bride!

      • WordsFailMe

        Right! As far as I am concerned, what goes on within a church is the business of it members and if they do not disobey any local or state law, they have nothing to fear. If the decisions they make lead to the dwindling of their membership-that’s a consequence every business, church and relationship on this planet must face.

        There are no national issues, no Civil Rights’, no “Affirmative Action Quotas” and no Equal Rights litigation “opportunities” for parties using racism as a lever to abridge human rights and usurp civil authority offered by the decisions of a Church membership.

        Back off pagans! (lol)

        • librtifirst

          You said it, “that’s a consequence of every business”. Churches have given up their free speech for their 501C3 status, and they have become structured like businesses. Leadership draw salaries and pensions. Paul the apostle made it clear that it would be wrong for him to take money from people when he went to them to preach. A pastor drawing a salary from the members turns the position into a political one. The structure of the churches, and the doctrinal statements, solidifies their positions, which are often wrong. The last church I went to believed that you have to be baptized to be saved. I pointed out their doctrinal fallacy with scripture, and they just stated that “that is what they believe”.

          Many churches today are going to be full of people after the rapture, and many pastors will still be here as well. The bible says that even the elect will be deceived.

          • WordsFailMe

            I can’t argue with this. Who am I to judge or condemn?

      • http://www.lds.org/ carbonfootprints

        Not even all members are allowed in. You have to be a member in good standing to enter a Mormon temple. When my in-laws were married none of their family was able to attend they were the only members in their families. My husband had only his parents and an aunt and an uncle who were able to attend the temple with us at our wedding. Ultimately it’s about the covenants you make with God and your spouse and not who’s at your wedding. However, mormons do know how to throw a great party afterwards, and everyone can come to that.

        • stevenbiot

          Mormons know how to throw great parties? No coffee, coca-cola or alcohol. I have never heard anyone say, ” Wow! That Mormon party was a real barn burner.” I might be wrong though.

          • http://www.lds.org/ carbonfootprints

            LOL I had a good friend who wasn’t a mormon start hanging around with my family, attending family reunions, church activities, etc. I had to laugh when she told me, “I didn’t know families could have so much fun and not drink.” We do know how to have a lot of fun, it usually revolves around potato casseroles, pasta salads and green jello, though. :)

            • stevenbiot

              Half of my family are Mormons. To each his own. Partying, I do agree, is defined by the participants. I associate party with alcohol. Haha.

    • http://twitter.com/volgeek Tim Jaggers

      Maybe he wasn’t a member yet, but according to the USA Today article, Wilson had been attending the church for a month and his bride had been attending for over a year. Her father “also attended the church, and her uncle was custodian at the church.” This is not a couple that simply walked in off of the street and said “We want to use your church for our wedding.”

    • librtifirst

      Membership is a bad thing. We are either all members of the body, or we are not. Membership is just a way to get people to tithe regularly, and serve in the church, because it is usually required. Membership flies in the face of what Christ stood for, and it is more like something that the Pharisees would come up with.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    Talking about stooges and marriage – I couldn’t wait to post this story

    This gives NEW MEANING to the PRESS BEING IN BED WITH THE WHITE HOUSE

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-press-secretary-marries-abc-reporter_649108.html

    Obama Press Secretary Marries ABC Reporter!

    It doesn’t get better than that!

  • deTocqueville1

    Truly appalling! What a contrast with the courageous and compassionate Chinese Lady saving the children. Thanks for both Scoop.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    “I was just trying to think about a win-win,” he said Sunday to the Clarion-Ledger. “The thing is, I’m a peacemaker, and sometimes because I’m a peacemaker it gets me in trouble. The thing about it is this: I love the people of our church and that’s the bottom line.”

    If you are a follower of Christ, you don’t think of win-win, you think of what Christ would do. You are not a peace maker. Blessed are the peace makers, not blessed are those who please men rather than God. You don’t love the people of your church, because if you did, you’d tell them the truth that the small minority of people who won’t allow a couple to get married because of skin color is UNCHRISTLIKE and wrong and that there is no such thing as color of skin in the body of Christ!!!

    What is unfortunate, this gives more fodder to those who already see Christians as bigoted and hateful. In this case, they’d be right, but the whole body of Christ suffers for it.

    For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
    For the body is not one member, but many.
    1 Corinthians 12:12-14

    • http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon

      Racism is alive and well in the south! And it does exist on both sides. I have lived in the south for over 25 years now and have a child from another country and I am white and you see it up close but it does exist on both sides. Love covers a multitude of sins…love one another! I have a plaque at my house that I purchased at Hobby Lobby. It says: Forgive…everyone…everything. Hard but necessary when you are a child of God!

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        I agree. When I moved to Texas when I first came to the States, I saw racism up close from both sides. It’s sad- because so many folks considered themselves Christian. Racism exists up north too- it’s not just a southern thing though. We have a bi racial granddaughter, whom we adore. Thankfully we haven’t seen any race problems for her yet, and pray that by the time she grows up, racism will truly be a thing long gone.

        I like that saying. It is hard, but if God can forgive us, we MUST forgive others.

  • Babnik

    As reported, this story seems pretty incredible. It’s really hard to believe in this day and time that a Christian church would exhibit such behavior. Is it possible that there’s something not being reported, maybe that would explain why the church refused to allow the wedding on their grounds? It seems in today’s new we rarely get the full story but only fed what is required to push a particular narrative..in this case Christian = racists, hypocrites, bad smelling, ugly..you name it. Then later we find out the entire story and give a collective “Oh! Don’t I feel silly for falling for that”. Y’all remember that commercial where Tiger Woods stated there were still country clubs in this country where he could not get a membership because of his skin color? Again hard to believe and no proof offered other that what he stated.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

    Think: What would Jesus do! Jesus would never deny a couple the right to Holy Matrimony because of their race/skin color… This reminds me of that Anti-Christian “church” bas**rds of that Satanic “god loves dead solders” Cult… You all know who I mean… Same cult… Same mentality… Ignorance is NO excuse!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3FKUGAPVG6CDFYSCJHSAIAZW4 david r

    In this day and time….. these racist bigots call themselves Christians. And believers of Jesus Christ and his teachings. Yet! they still believe in the separation of the races, and they don’t even adhered to the founding principles of our founding fathers that… ” All men are created equal with certain inalienable rights. That among these are Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness.”
    There is no justification for this kind of policy in politics today, and especially in any religious house of worship or it’s organizations. Enough said!…

    • warpmine

      We’re bound to find these types that live amongst us as I find an equal number of profess to hate Jews for no other reason but because they were taught that. Correct the problem by teaching the correction.

  • denbren52

    Sadly, segregation is still a way of life in Mississippi. For example, in some areas of the state, there are white little league teams and black little league teams and they never play each other. This incident just sheds new light on a problem that has never gone away. But for any church that calls itself Christian to continue these racist ways is appalling and unacceptable.

    • keyesforpres

      Sadly, there are many blacks that segregate themselves with “black proms”, “black Miss America”, etc. It’s all ridiculous.

      • http://www.lds.org/ carbonfootprints

        That is part of my frustration with the black community. I have no problem with being proud of your heritage, but if you choose to separate yourselves, don’t get upset at the rest of us when we are a little unsure how to act around you. Yes, I probably act a little uncomfortable around blacks, but it has less to do with their skin color and more to do with the fact that I am afraid they will see something I so as racist, which I am not.

        • keyesforpres

          Sadly, too many blacks today think if they don’t get their way, or are fired from a job, it’s racism.

          I’m not sure what went on in this case. If they were not allowed to marry because they were black, then that is outrageous. However, it is also difficult to fire a bad employee if they happen to be black. Often, they sue and scream racism.

  • tvlgds

    In the year 2012 this garbage still goes on? Seems the pastor and congregation of that church are nothing but hypocrites.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Just like the rest of us, I suppose.

      As someone once mention, there is only one race, the Human race. We just happen to be of different colors as God has created. It is sad to see such discrimination against a fellow human being.

      We are all created in the very image of God and deserve the dignity and respect as our Lord intended.

    • librtifirst

      I knew a pastor who addressed sexual immorality in his church from the pulpit. He had people who were living together and not married. He lost half of his congregation over it, but was convicted that he had to do it.

      This pastor is a weak leader. He should have taken his losses. Jesus said “turn them over to Satan, that they might be saved”. These people who objected have no place having any influence in the church.

  • 12grace

    Being racist is not Christian.

    • librtifirst

      The people who objected should have been thrown out of the church, and asked not to come back until they repented.

  • Sober_Thinking

    “I love the people of our church and that’s the bottom line.” But he apparently doesn’t love God enough to stand on His word and principles. This kind of garbage gives Christians a black eye.

    I would leave that church. You can’t win souls when you drive people out because of prejudice and ignorance.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

      AMEN!

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

    The day I start judging people by their color and not their person… That day I hope I die.

  • tinker_thinker

    Hey, preacher, if these people you love are this racist then you haven’t done your job.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    It is my firm belief and conviction that Jesus Christ is color blind and cares not what color his followers are…and the same should apply to that church in Mississippi. I’m dismayed by the behavior of my fellow Southern Baptists, unless there’s more to the story than what is being reported. Everyone should feel welcomed into any church…it’s God’s house, not ours and we should open our arms to fellow believers.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Whitewolf2009

      Amen!

  • FutureOnePercent

    As a Baptist, I’m absolutely embarrassed. What a shame… WASPs already have the stigma of being racist and things like this only reinforce that idea…

    You’re not helping the team and you’re giving people a bad impression of Christianity.

    1 Corinthians 8:9
    But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

  • ryanomaniac

    This story seems incredible. Why in the world would this man bring so much heat on himself?

    The media will eat this up and regurgitate this over and over and they’ll probably ask Romney over and over about this. Its easy to fall into racism though. I find myself falling prey to this sometimes but then I think of the black man who saved my life when I was twenty five. I wouldn’t be hear if not for him. Wouldn’t have met my wife and wouldn’t have been so happy to meet my unborn child.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

      The Pastor needs the job!

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Keeping your wife and baby in prayers Ryan! Hope they’re both healthy, and doing fine… praying for a safe delivery when the time comes! Did you guys pick names yet?

      • ryanomaniac

        Thank you ABC for asking! You praying for my wife and child means a lot. You’re always classy.

        Yes, we have picked a name. Brooklyn. My family is from Holland and that name is actually Dutch. Which I was was really looking for. I do feel sorry for her though. My last name is very hard to spell and it can be very frustrating having to spell your name for people instead of being able to just say it. Its kinda like the Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue. You get tough or die.

        Thanks again ABC.

        • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

          LOL- she’ll be classy AND tough! Never met a wimp from Brooklyn and I do like that name! :-D Don’t forget to hand out virtual cigars around Scoop when the big day is here, OK?! God Bless you guys!!

          • ryanomaniac

            You’ll smell cigars from ten miles away!! The blue Texas skies will be cloudy on that day.

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              lol! Thatta boy! :-D

        • toongoon

          Good strong name. She’s due fairly soon isn’t she?

          • ryanomaniac

            Yes, she is due in nine weeks maybe earlier. My wife likes to joke around and call me her baby daddy.

            • toongoon

              Sounds like you have a real nice young family. My granddaughter will be here near the end of August. Looking forward to her arrival as well.

              • ryanomaniac

                Congratulations toongoon. That’s awesome! Hope the world doesn’t end before I can have a grandchild.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Do you really mean “racism?” I’m betting you fall prey to selective association based on observed behavior. In other words, you probably don’t go out of your way to avoid a group of black folks coming out of a church, but you would try your best to avoid a bunch of thug-looking, race-taunting young black men or young “latino,” gang-looking men. That’s my guess.

      That would be their fault for displaying a hostile demeanor.

      I know I’m totally comfortable around people of any skin color in restaurants, clubs, stores, my house, church, city hall, museums, you name it. It’s the obviously bad characters that show up uninvited who propagate racism.

      (and Congrats! on your expected child!)

      • ryanomaniac

        You described what I meant accurately. I’m not nervous at all around blacks in general that’s for sure. Its the thugs. I grew up in a half and half small(white,black)town east of Dallas and it was crazy man. It was reverse racism though. You had to keep your head on a swivel. It gave me a sixth sense when I see thugs around. Its almost like some X-Men stuff. I see them coming but anyway sometimes my anger over some stories you read these days gets a hold of me. My experiences get the best of me. A lot of people I know think its interesting that a thirty nine year old white boy could be best friends with a sixty seven year old black retired army man. He’s easy to hang out with cause he lives next door to my house and he is a conservative.

        Thanks for the Congrats. I really appreciate that.

      • librtifirst

        Sometime we are just uncomfortable with a certain cultural. When a certain race flaunts their race, it is anything but appealing.

  • keyesforpres

    How could this be happening in this day and age?
    Unreal.
    If I went to that church, I would be looking for another church…..and pronto.

    • librtifirst

      I would walk right up to that pastor and throw scripture at him in rebuke.

  • warpmine

    As horrible as it lays out thus far, I still want to hear the truth of what went down. It doesn’t sound as if the entire congregation even knew about it, just a few and probably the elders that have the “problem”. The congregation has a bad mark on their church and it should be up to them to investigate and rectify the situation.

  • http://twitter.com/patriot_moon Debbie Dianne

    This is so sad, there is no excuse for this behavior on the part of the pastor or the church members. This couple should be welcomed and their marriage blessed, I really hope another pastor or congregation comes forward to offer their church for this couple to be married in a church and blessed by God. God bless this couple.

  • Fireplug52

    This righteous man said it best and gave his life for it.

    “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
    ― Dietrich Bonhoeffer

  • 12grace

    Before we just in the racism is ugly band wagon let’s make sure this is not yet another obama playing the race card to get votes ploy. Stand back for a bit and let all the facts be revealed.

    • toongoon

      Wise advice Grace.

    • kong1967

      That’s a good idea. Things may not seem like they appear.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      From everything I’ve seen including apologies from congregation members who really hate this, it was pretty much racism.

      • 1mathteacher

        Scoop, I submitted a comment to this thread this morning, and I got a message saying it was awaiting moderation. There wasn’t anything inflammatory in it, but it hasn’t been approved yet. Do you know what the problem is? Thanks!

    • Fireplug52

      I agree with not jumping to a fast conclusion, but the old adage that it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, then it must be a duck. This is racism plain and simple. It would be interesting to look through the eyes of the people affected because their skin color was the primary factor in this reaction, nothing more.

  • stevenbiot

    The pastor is a coward. What a wanker church.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQIGXRVWW5XRETNV25R4FATCOM ssenecal5000

    The sad part is you are going by the claims of media

    The Bride has been a member of the church for a year. The Groom has been visting the church for a month which he found everyone very nice. The Grooms uncle works for the church There are other black members . It isnt an all white church by any means
    It was someone AT the rehearsal that alledgedly complained about the couple.
    That tells me it has to be a family member of either the groom or the bride.
    The preacher never says it’s because they are black

    • kong1967

      Thanks for that input. But the guy said that the pastor told him that members said no blacks have ever been married there and won’t be. That seems pretty racist to me…..assuming he was telling the truth.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQIGXRVWW5XRETNV25R4FATCOM ssenecal5000

        It depends on what article you are reading,and youhave to read it very carefully for what the author is saying and what is actually being said by the preacher and others. The author refers to the race of the couple, and the Groom makes a claim. The preacher himself is just saying members had problem with the couple being married in the church, he does not say its because of their race…..the author of the article inserts “black couple’ into the sentence
        The local news says no black couple has been married in the church in “modern times”, not that black couples havent been married there.

        • librtifirst

          I thought that the video had the groom and bride saying that they would have to tell their kids that they can’t get married in the church because they are black. It seemed pretty clear.

          • kong1967

            From what I took him to be saying, the pastor never said it was because they were black. That could only mean that the groom was either lying or he assumed that was the reason….or the pastor didn’t admit it to the media.

        • kong1967

          So the pastor never said it was because they were black and the guy assumed that was the reason. Between the different descriptions of the various news reports you cited, it seems that the story gets twisted as it goes along.

          I think the safest thing to do is not to judge until all the facts come out. We may not hear anything else about the story.

  • stage9

    RACISM IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN!

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28

    • stevenbiot

      For the most part I agree. Although, in Deuteronomy 14:2, the verse states, ” For you are a holy people to your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth,” implying the Jewish people are superior in the eyes of God. But, yes, Christians seem to me to be extremely generous and unmatched in the religious tolerance department.

      • stage9

        Not “superior”….”separated”…there’s a difference.

        The Jewish people were called to be “set apart” from every other nation on earth. God used them to fulfill His Divine purpose, but it wasn’t their race that made them any better/worse than any other nation, it was God’s divine hand on them.

        God’s purpose was to keep Israel holy, to have a people to worship Him, and Him alone, in Spirit and in Truth.

        “When you enter the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to do according to the detestable things of those Gentiles. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.

        “For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord; and because of these detestable things the Lord your God will drive them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. For those Gentiles which you shall dispossess listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so.” (Dt. 18:9-14)

        In each book of the Law of Moses, God taught the Israelites to be separate from the Gentiles, and not to live like them. Upon redeeming them out of Egypt, He commanded:

        “You shall not do what is done in the land of Egypt where you lived, nor are you to do what is done in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you; you shall not walk in their statutes.” (Lev.18:3)

        “You shall not worship their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their deeds.” (Ex. 23:24)

        It was the idea of racial superiority gotten from social darwinism that fueled eugenics, the extermination of the Jews during WWII, infanticide, and Ota Benga, a Belgian Congo pygmy who was put on display as a “missing link” in the Bronx zoo. He was so ostracized by “SUPERIOR WESTERNERS” that he committed suicide.

        Racism is evil.

      • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

        Jews aren’t a race.

        Of course, the entire concept of race is pure horse sh*t, but that’s another topic.

      • librtifirst

        God’s plan from the beginning was to bring salvation to man through the Jews. He set them apart to show all of mankind that we are sinners and cannot live up to the law. Old Testament prophesy, about the Messiah, states that He will bring salvation not just to the Jews, but also to the gentiles.

        The new testament states that Christians are not to judge the world, but only ourselves. We are to love the sinner and hate the sin. God separates the sin from the soul, and says that all souls are to be loved. “love thy neighbor as thy self”. Vengeance, hatred, bigotry, ect. are sins for the Christian. Christians are to judge and correct each other, and this should have happened in this church.

  • sjmom

    What a shame and what shame is upon the pastor for not standing with God, who is Love. However, I will leave all judging to the Lord and pray for healing in the community. I also pray the couple does not resort to a lawsuit but rather shows forgiveness as Jesus has commanded His disciples.

    Forgiveness in never easy but is always worth the effort because unforgiveness is like making poison for someone and drinking it yourself. Not preaching; just one of the many lessons I have learned in my own Christian walk.

  • stevenbiot

    Baptists are oddly enough pro-amnesty, which concerns me the most.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      You can’t isolate all the various groups with the word “Baptist” in them as one, big group. There are many types of Baptist, and they don’t see eye to eye on many things.

      • Alborn

        You speak the truth. Baptist come in all stripes. Not all of them are affiliated with organizations example Westboro Baptist. Many are independent and go by their own rules. But this story saddens me. For so called Baptists to be this racist is a shame. I pray they will change their minds and apologize to the couple and ask for forgiveness.

        • librtifirst

          I shudder to think about the people in the south, in the old days, who had such hate for people, and attended church every week. I guess that there are still a few out there.

    • RKflorida

      The Southern Baptist Convention might, but most Independent Baptist churches don’t support amnesty.

  • kong1967

    I’m dumbfounded. I honestly did not believe that racism to this extent still existed. Yeah, I knew we still have racists, but for a church to cave in to them? Unbelievable.

    The only point I will give the pastor is that maybe he honestly didn’t want to ruin the couple’s wedding day. But, in my opinion, he should just kick those few members out of the church and be done with them. I wouldn’t want those people in my church to begin with and would make the trade in a flash. “Fine, you don’t like them…..get out.” It was a bad move to tarnish the reputation of the church over a few jerks.

    • librtifirst

      There is biblical precedent for asking them to leave the church. It is based on them being turned over to Satan, that they might be saved. It is clear that their hearts are hard, and they know not God. The bible says to go to the person sinning and make it known to them. If they repent, then you have won over your brother. If they do not, take two or more with you. If they still do not, tell it to the church. If they will not hear the church, then they are to be removed from the church.

      • kong1967

        Well, what-a-ya know. I got one right. :)

  • http://twitter.com/volgeek Tim Jaggers

    This is disgusting. I would bet that the people who objected are prominent members of the congregation and big donors to the church. This reminds me so much of the spineless pastor in “Pollyanna”.

    As disgusting as this is, I am equally disgusted by the fact that the Wilsons are looking into suing over this.

  • B-Funk

    Spineless weenie

  • Terrenceor

    What would Jesus do you big dope! This minister just had an Epic Fail moment.

  • Bucketheadbaptist

    My oh my.

    I believe I may have to start my Podcast back up.

  • SpencerRileyRoy

    People who don’t like an integrated church are definitely not going to like heaven…because heaven is going to be integrated as well!

    This is more a problem with religion not Christianity. Many a church have split because of what long time members wanted instead of what is biblical. This pastor is suppose to be over this flock and guide them. Never heard of a shepherd allowing a sheep to do what is wishes because it whines. The shepherd should be guiding, and directing the sheep to safety and what is best for them.

  • Josh

    I think there is more to this story that will be released after all of the Christians turn on each other. While this racism is definitely against what the Bible teaches, we should all remember that this ugly, public form of sin is no greater than that which we all have hidden behind our own walls. The church is for the sick and these racist people definitely need to be ministered to. Instead of turning on our brothers and sisters (a.k.a. sinners), we need to pray for this church that they would see people through His eyes, not our own.

  • mike morrison

    THIS is REAL RACISM. The SBC should immediately kick this church out of the convention and cut all aid to them, including stopping any funding of this pastor’s retirement/pension plan!!! GUTLESS WONDER. I apologize to this couple on behalf of my former church denomination.

    Attention liberals, here’s a REAL story of REAL RACISM. Do your job for once.

  • http://twitter.com/Winston80 Winston

    A democrat church?

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Winston you probabnly are correct. I know there is a lot of talk about the Republican party being the party of the Southern White Male, but nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve lived in Tennessee now for 3 years and the majority of the population is Democrat, at least in my humble town.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    Um, does this pastor know the current president of the SBC is Black (Frank Luter)?

  • GeorgiaPeachie

    Totally disgusts me! How dare they. These are not Christians.

  • RKflorida

    If you want to see what is destroying this country look at the pulpits of American churches. This is an act of appeasement and not Christ like in any manner.

    There is only one color that matters – the red blood of Jesus Christ.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

    I’m thinking “Wag The Dog” but that’s just me. Christians bashing Christians, all over the news How? Who? When?, this is gonna win lots of souls for our King to build his army of saints for his glorious second coming!?
    Never forget brothers and sisters the untold story seldom spoke of behind the story we hear or see, we fight against an enemy with great power, dark, evil, intrusive, and devilish methods from the very pit’s are his tools.
    There can alway’s be found strong disagreements between us yet none of us are in perfect fellowship with Christ, he bore our sins on that cross, he ascended and will return just as he said. So my brothers and sisters in Christ remember those members in Miss. however wrong they are they are in the arms of our Lord and it’s he we serve. Though the world is watching our response to this matter we should not forget they really couldn’t care one way or the other about the Church, and we should also remember watching us is our King.
    We are not all first or all last, we are Christians, servants of our Lord Jesus who is the
    Saviour.
    Christ is the bridegroom waiting for his bride….the Church, the church who should be adorn with reverence before, during, and after stormy waves and high tides have come and gone, cause she is his bride.
    We do not please the world, unless our salt is lost.

    May God Bless America, with robes that shine the light of his Awesome majesty.
    Amen

    respectfully

  • lolome

    Please, don’t believe the hype! I am a Mississippian and an AA (used to be called Black, but now it’s AA, go figure…). This couple were not members of this church. This couple started to attend this church so that they could use their facilities- I know of other instances of this occuring. Now, I would like to suggest that both parties are wrong here. The small number of church members whose decision prevailed, the pastor for not standing up to these congregants, and the couple themselves are all to blame. My bible says, “love worketh no ill toward a brother…” That couple should have quietly gone about their business after their wedding forgiving those who made that decision, instead they go to the media. As I said before, the small number of congregants that prevailed are also wrong and should have let this couple hold their wedding ceremony at the church, despite the fact that they were not members (they had paid some fee in order to do so).
    How did I get this wise? Well, it’s not so much that, I just love people because I know how much God loves them. He wants us to demonstrate His love for us toward each other in that we are able to allow someone to do us wrong and not take account of it. Love ‘em in spite of it and keep on living. He’ll do the rest!
    Just remember this is NOT a unique situation. It is just the media loves race issues…boy, do they! The same thing has happened to White couples and you never hear a peep from media on that count, do ya?

  • http://twitter.com/BombsAndDollars Bombs And Dollars

    I bet liberals will use this as an example of why churches should be forced to perform gay weddings. Liberals will say, “If churches shouldn’t discriminate against people based on race, why should they discriminate against people based on sexual orientation?”

  • BiscuitCrumbs

    The Pastor needs to grow a set.

  • 1mathteacher

    Does it not bother anyone else that the people who caused the problem are still anonymous? I’m sorry, but this does not pass the smell test to me. I have lived in Mississippi all my life & have never witnessed anything like this. The fact that there are black members makes it even stranger. If it did happen the way it is presented, then it’s horrible. I just know enough about the media to know that they love a good racially charged story & if they could smear a quiet little town full of southern conservatives in the process, they would like that even better.