MSNBC crew gangs up on Gov. Scott Walker over auto bailout and Janesville plant

Just after Paul Ryan’s speech finished, Gov. Scott Walker did an interview with MSNBC from the floor of the RNC, which I imagine was probably supposed to be a light interview. But basically Walker was ganged up on by the over-zealous talking heads covering the speech over an issue that had nothing to do with Paul Ryan’s speech or the RNC, but a GM plant closing in Janesville.

The short of it is that Walker highlighted a broken promise Obama made to the people in a GM plant in Janesville in 2008, saying that his policies would keep it open. MSNBC talking heads all argued that it closed in Dec. of 2008 and because of that it couldn’t be Obama’s fault.

But Gov. Walker’s point was that if GM and the government had followed the advice of Mitt Romney and went into a managed bankruptcy up front instead of dumping billions of taxpayer money into GM, only to do a managed bankruptcy later, GM would have been better off with no wasting of the taxpayer money.

But that point soared high over the heads of Maddow, Schultz, and Sharpton as they continued to press Walker over Dec. 2008.

Oddly enough, the plant did close in 2009 as Walker had earlier suggested, according to Wisconsin’s Journal Sentinel. The MSNBC folks were relying on the reporting of the Washington Post, which apparently got it wrong.

Watch below:

One other point. The fact that the Obama administration forced GM into a managed bankruptcy after giving it 2 bailouts beforehand just proves Walker’s point that the bailouts were a fraud. Just pouring money into a company without fixing its underlying problems will still end in the same result.

It’s just like Obama’s stimulus package philosphy, that if you throw billions of dollars at the states it will fix their problems. But it didn’t and since then they’ve had to lay off people and cut back on spending to actually address their underlying budget problems. The stimulus just delayed them taking the proper action in the first place.

It was all just one big waste of taxpayer money.

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  • no wonder no one is watching that stupid tv channel.

  • anyonebutbarry2012

    I so like Gov Walker !!!

  • Hell, MSNBC is a waste of Comcast money. But Comcast loves that Trash TV (look at E! and G4), so don’t expect them to quit any time soon.

    • FutureOnePercent

      Hey… don’t go bashing G4…some of us nerds need our fix!

      I remember back when it was TechTV…

      Now where’s my Xbox controller…

  • What’s the point of giving MSNBC an interview? Really, I don’t see what it accomplishes. What am I missing?

    • to keep walker honest…he does lie…

      • PFFV

        Walker is one in a handfull that has balls to implement a conservative solution – that works by the way…lol! Idiot Democrat’s think that Government is the solution to all their petty problems. That’s why they are idiots. True American’s fix their own problems!

      • badbadlibs

        I suppose “the word is out” and that’s Gov. Walker to you, he lies, care to point one out or are you just going to think because you say it that makes it so….lousy try, thomas

      • dennisdidit

        The Wisconsin Sentinel lies constantly and gets called on it often. No one here really respects that paper because of the propaganda. Below are a few links to prove just that.

        • proudhispanicconservative

          scoop threw Thomas out

        • brendawatkins

          And Wikipedia? “From 1994 until 2009, the plant also produced medium-duty trucks for Isuzu under its partnership with GM.”
          “Work continued at the Janesville Assembly through June, 2009, completing the Janesville/Isuzu light truck contract.” “

          • dennisdidit

            A few points. I am a long time conservative and once proud of my party. Now I am becoming ashamed of my parties actions. One of the things I always said about the party is that we WERE honest. But I was an employee there at that time. We )the GM Division) were laid off December 23, 2008. The Isuzu Division is different. That obligation had to be met for ISUZU. We were told that the plant would be permanently closed, and would not reopen. My point is be honest and don’t tell half truths. Paul Ryan knew this because he came a job fair and shuck hands etc in January. Also Romney has consistently done this type of lie as well. Last, As a former US Coast guardsmen and US Marine (Disabled Vet), I am disgusted with the treatment of this president. I had problems when people did it to President Bush and I have issues with people doing it to President Obama. The problem is with Obama they are literally making this not just a policy issue but a racial issue. And for those that don’t agree with that, go to Google images and search for “Anti Obama Bill Boards” then search for “Anti Bush Bill Boards”. There is no question that these billboards go too far when talking about Obama. (Now I am only focusing on this personal attacks. Not policy attacks) You will find less than 5 Anti Bush billboards and thousands of Anti Obama and most are clearly vicious. As an American we don’t have to agree with the president we have, but as long as the person is President we should show more respect than we do.

            • brendawatkins

              How do you feel about the way the Democrats, and their lapdog media is treating conservative minorities during the RNC? Does that bug you too? Does it bug you that liberals have dirtied Mia Love’s WIKI page after her RNC speech? Does it bug you that MSNBC (which is CLEARLY in the tank for Obama) totally IGNORES black speakers when they speak at the RNC? IT DOES ME!

            • Nukeman60

              We were told that the plant would be permanently closed, and would not reopen‘ – d

              You don’t permanently close a plant by idling it after completion of the manufacturing lines (which happened in April, ’09). Idling a plant means it’s maintained in a position to be opened up in the near future, as they expected it would once Obama committed to his promise he gave to them in ’08. Unfortunately, it became permanent after the promises fell through.

              Half truths, indeed. Perhaps you should advise Obama not to make promises that he had no intention of keeping. He seems to have done that a lot in his long and painful 6 years of campaign efforts that never seem to end.

              By the way, if you can only find 1-4 anti-Bush billboards on the internet, you just aren’t trying. Half truths.

          • dennisdidit

            One other thing I wanted to include. I am attaching a news reel from April 2009 which was the final day for ISUZU. There were 103 workers left and that week 87 of them let go. Also Go back and look at the Feb 13,2008 speech I didn’t remember Obama saying what Ryan said he did but I believed him because I wasn’t paying attention any more. I voted for McCain. In Closing, I can not back a campaign that lies about as much as this one has. And then to follow Paul Weyrich’s philosophy (founder of ALEC) with voters suppression. Look at states such as TX and Missouri who say “lets repeal the voters rights act of 1965”. Then when questioned about it they say well not the whole thing. Well I am African American and that really effects me. I am not like many I form opinions based on the person and policy. I am not like a lot of these people who will follow this party simply because of personal obligation. And wikipedia is not a good source. I can go in there and add or change the information to fit my needs.

            • dennisdidit
            • brendawatkins

              “When the four-million-square-foot GM plant in the southern part of town closed in 2009 after a series of layoffs, it took with it the jobs of some 2,800 employees, the single most significant economic blow inflicted upon any Wisconsin community since the economic collapse of 2008.”

              • dennisdidit

                You are truly the kind of person I was talking about. You want to be so loyal to the party that you hear what you want to hear. I am a conservative, not a drone. I don’t fall in line simply just because. I did not become a conservative because my daddy said it was best. I did it because I thought I agreed with the positions and integrity I thought was present. If you are saying that he only told a partial lie so it is ok, then that brings in to question your integrity as it would mine if I quitely allowed this lie or half truth to simply go by. The fact is it was a half truth. The plant had about 100 workers left in after 2008 because it had to complete the Isuzu partnership contract. I was an employee that lost his job there. DONT TRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME. I was one of the loosers. The plant was officially closed to never reopen. The only people left was not GM a division but Isuzu. You hGo back to the video. You stated 2800 people lost their jobs. Well, lets do the math according to the news reel, 1300 were actual GM employees. if they only kept 100 people to finish on Isuzu. Do you think its possible that there is something missing? And even with out that tidbit of info, 100 out of 2800 that plant sounds like they are pretty much closed, about to close or on a skeleton crew. either way the jobs were lost and WE EMPLOYEES were told the plant was closed permanently in December, they were just going to have a few people to stay to sew loose ends.

                Also this is not the only lie he told during that speech. But if this is what the party has come to then I am really disappointed. The party is becoming a pack of mindless automatons.

                • brendawatkins

                  And our CURRENT President has never told a lie, right?

                • dennisdidit

                  First the Racial divide concerns me and to start I have to look at the obvious racial in differences and the greatest injustices and how it effects my family in the now and my kids in the future. I believe that racism will exist as long as people can see or believe there is a difference. Because of this I must look at those things first and fight the greatest evils first. As of late (the last 4 years) My party has used dog whistle tactics dealing with race specific to my own. For example the comments about the “FoodStamp” President or welfare queens was used by Ronald Reagan in the 80’s and as he described it, there was a black face. Also as I said to have republican legislators and governors put forth bills to stop minorities from voting and to literally say they want to repeal the voters rights act. Those are much worst things than I have ever heard from the liberal movement…at least in my lifetime. As far as the black speakers at the RNC, ever news organization (and I channel surfed) had nothing but high praises for Condi Rice. Now people such as Allan West, I don’t even like because to be he not only makes the party look asinine but in MY OPINION blacks as well. He is the image of the angry black man who will say anything for airtime. Like I said I don’t just tow the line just because it is popular.

                  Now for the lies. I did not say the president has always been on point when it comes to the truth, but I have to go with the lesser of the two evils in this one. Romney has totally loss respect from me not only for his flip flops, lack of truth, etc, but because of the birther comments last week. And the again, dog whistle comments such as how foreign, un-american, etc. Those are not comments becoming of my Commander and Chief. I fought for this country to have something better than that. Not forgiving either side a lie is a lie, but at least make an attempt to trick me. This years candidates for the republicans are unconscionable. As of Today I can’t get myself to vote for Romney but I haven’t made up my mind in reference to voting for Obama either. Even though I can see him as ever having a real chance, at least Ron Paul is consistent. Even John McCain. These guys have a certain level of integrity. Even when I disagree with them I can respect them. I feel like that about the President. I can as of today respect him even with my political disagreements more than I can Mitt Romney.

                  I hope that answers your questions.

                • brendawatkins

                  I can’t think of anything MORE EVIL than a man voting AGAINST an INNOCENT baby, being born alive through a BOTCHED abortion receiving medical attention. You got that right… I’m going to vote for the lesser of 2 evils! All this racist BS in in your head thanks to people like Chris Matthews he is just a few words away from having a straight jacket wrapped around him!

                • brendawatkins

                  BTW this so called racial divide didn’t happen until AFTER Obama was elected. Every time a person says ANYTHING against Obama it’s a racist act. I was PRO LIFE before Obama, and I’ll be PRO LIFE until I die! I’ve had my conservative views LONG BEGORE I even knew who Obama was, and I will have them until I DIE! And I will voice my opinion on how I feel about the issues no matter how many time I might be called a racist! Everything is NOT about Obama! Some things are about MORALS!

                • dennisdidit

                  This so called racial divide didn’t happen until AFTER Obama was elected. Really? Growing up in the neighborhood I grew up in, I remember at 11 years old being kicked in my gentiles by a police officer because I was walking home from school during school hours to meet my mother at my home so that I could make it to a doctors appointment. He thought I was skipping school and took me back to the school and dropped me off there. Another example is when I lived in Houston, TX in a country club Community back in the early part of the Bush presidency I was pulled over day after day by the same police officers that eventually knew my name and the vehicles I drove. They ask me the same questions like what type of work do you do where you can afford to live here? I would tell them I am a IT professional. They knew this, yet for the few years I lived there I was stopped at least 2 to 3 times a week. Once I was even told to get out of my car and get on my knees in a suit and tie while they searched my car with out reason or permission. I have never had a felony or even a misdemeanor. If you don’t say this is apart of a racial divide that has existed for years and years you are flawed in your thinking. My brother asked me all the time how can I support a party that would live in a fantasy and wants to act as if though this does not happen. For the first time after that comment I am starting to question that. Despite everything I have always had a pride in this country and a yearn to be the best in everything I do. I am always trying to give people the benefit of the doubt in these issues especially pertaining to race. Because I realize that fragile conversations are easily taken the wrong way. I will not call you a racist just like I did not call Gov Romney a racist. I just don’t agree that he needs to play the Dog Whistle tactics and nor does he need to lie to win the campaign. He lied on Newt Gingrich and on Rick Santoruam (who by the way also lost my respect for the Black People comment, oh no he said BLAH PEOPLE) in the primaries. You are clueless on the African American experience and to act as though you get it is an insult to anyone who has went through this and calls him self an American. To say otherwise would be disingenuous. In closing, I am a republican. I am proud of my contributions, You state that “some things are about MORALS” Then get some and tell your party that although they have your support, they can not blatantly lie and keep your support. I am a man of integrity and if that means I not looked at as being true to “The Party” then so be it. And PRO LIFE I get and I agree. I don’t have a problem with pro life, I do have a problem with Pro life at the expense of the mothers health or in cases of rape. I had a cousin who was pregnant and 28 weeks something went wrong and she was out and her husband had to make the decision to say her or save the child. He chose to save the child because the doctor said that although the child had a chance of survival she had a greater chance to survive. Is this a decision that should be placed in the hands of a Judge? The first time I heard thus I was against it totally but after thought on this I get it. If this were my wife I would not want anyone making that choice for me or better yet my wife she has to make that choice even before me. After this, I do question at times how we preach small government with less regulation but we want more regulation as long as it appeals to or personal agenda. For example why should there be a law telling me that I must where a seat belt or that I must wear a helmet on a Motorcycle in some states. My head, my body, that should be my decision. That’s called smaller Government. By the way, Obama did not judge Roe vs Wade. He just thinks it unconstitutional to mess with it. Because it is considered in the decision to not be when the process of life begins, according to even the 14th amendment, When does personhood begin. Not agreeing or disagreeing, just stating the reasons given by the federal Judges case review.

                  I do appreciate the debate, but utterly exhausting.

                • If you want folks to be able to read your comment, you need to put some paragraphs in it. I understand “smartphones” don’t always work in that regard, so when commenting from a phone, try to be brief. Those are merely suggestions.

                  Your other points are circular. You have decided no one “gets’ racism, therefore no one “gets” racism. Not “Us” anyway, whoever that is.

                  You are simply wrong on that point, and so is every other race hustler out there.

                  Skin color does not matter to conservatives. Period. Get that through the filter and understand it. Skin color only matters to leftists and fringe parties. Not the people on this site, and not the people at that convention tonight.

                • dennisdidit

                  First of all, irace was not mentioned until I was asked an opinion about race. I commented only an opinion and after his comment I commented in kind. I then took offense to the latter comment. If you honestly believe that race does not matter to a conservative then pay attention to his statements and questions. I would not have joined this party if I thought that the whole party is full of a bunch of racist.

                • brendawatkins

                  Correction: The racial issue started with YOU! Your quote “The problem is with Obama they are literally making this not just a policy issue but a racial issue”

                • dennisdidit

                  I was stating why I went in depth to answer Bob. And my initial statement was not to explore race but to state that those billboards where dealing with race and I thought is was wrong. At any rate that initial statement was ignored. My whole point is that I don’t care republican or democrat, I would never disrespect our president. I may disagree with policy but never demean our president. I argue with liberals when I saw it and I say again that some billboards go to far.

                  This is my last comment but I must say that, I have learned that so much of what I have denied believe about our party is true. I have try to always thought that for the most part we republicans had rational position on things (Pro Life, Economy, race relations), and I have to admit that after this I am not so sure.

                • brendawatkins

                  I don’t agree with billboards that are blatantly being nasty. But, I don’t see how any party can be held accountable for what private citizens are doing. I will always vote on issues with abortion being at the top of my list, but, not the only issue. Like I said, my views are conservative, and I will always vote conservative.

                • dennisdidit

                  Thank you Brenda. That was what I was asking. I am just curious if the super pac ads will be viewed. Will they be look at as wisely as you stated or will they be taken to heart. From Both sides

                • brendawatkins

                  I can only speak for myself. and I’m going to be relying on my common sense.

                • You should pay attention to what we write here. We are (mostly) conservatives and Libertarians here. Skin color does NOT matter to a conservative, period.

                  Anyone who claims otherwise is engaged in fatuous, race-baiting drivel.

                • dennisdidit

                  This was the questions that prompted my getting in to race

                  brendawatkins wrote, in response to dennisdidit:

                  How do you feel about the way the Democrats, and their lapdog media is treating conservative minorities during the RNC? Does that bug you to? Does it bug you that liberals have dirtied Mia Love’s WIKI page after her RNC speech? Does it bug you that MSNBC (which is CLEARLY in the tank for Obama) totally IGNORES black speakers when they speak at the RNC? IT DOES ME!

                • brendawatkins

                  February 22: Born Alive Infants Protection Act (Senate Bill 1095) was first introduced in the Illinois Senate.
                  March 28: Then State Senator Barack Obama voted “NO” on the bill in the Senate Judiciary Committee. (Re: dating, the bill was introduced one day, and the vote was held the next. The tally is dated the day the hearing on the bill began.)
                  March 30: Obama spoke against the bill on the Senate floor.
                  March 30: Obama voted “PRESENT” on the Senate floor.

                  January 30: Born Alive Infants Protection Act (Senate Bill 1662) was reintroduced after failing to become law the prior year.
                  March 6: Then State Senator Barack Obama voted “NO” on the bill in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
                  April 4: Obama spoke against the bill on the Senate floor.
                  April 4: Obama voted “NO” on the Senate floor.
                  July 18: Congress passed the federal version of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act.
                  August 5: The federal version of the Born Alive Infants Protection was signed by the President into law.

                  February 19: Born Alive Infants Protection Act (Senate Bill 1082) was reintroduced after failing to become law the prior year.
                  March 13: After first voting for an amendment to make the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act identical to the federal version, Obama voted against the bill. (Re: dating, the bill was introduced one day, and the vote was held the next. The tally is dated the day the hearing on the bill began.)
                  Would a man of integrity vote for a man like that? I think NOT! And you wanna tell me to get some morals? Tell that to yourself, then deal with me.

                • dennisdidit

                  I did not say I would vote for the President, I said I can not vote for Mitt Romney because I don’t feel he has any integrity. At this point I am undecided on what I am going to do. Besides according to nonpartisan, nonprofit “consumer advocate” group, there is more to that story. I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, I am just saying that there is more to the story. Also look at the Illinois review records of the top 10 reasons he voted against.

                  Obama claims he felt that the legislation would have taken decision-making out of the hands of doctors, giving anti-abortion activists an opening to sue abortion providers by alleging that they chose to terminate the life of a viable fetus on purpose. He did not, however, express any support for “infanticide” or for ending the life of a viable fetus, as Huckabee and Gingrich claim.

                  Again, I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU and I am not trying to change your opinion, I just do plenty of research on issues of interest and form an opinion from there. I will say that, although I may not agree with one side of this argument, I do understand the concerns coming from both sides of this argument.

                  Take a look



                • brendawatkins

                  Margaret Sanger
                  Founder of Planned Parenthood
                  In Her Own Words

                  “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
                  Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
                  (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

                  Copyright © 2001 Diane S. Dew

                  Margaret Sanger (1883-1966)
                  On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
                  “…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
                  On sterilization & racial purification:
                  Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial “purification,” couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.

                  On the right of married couples to bear children:
                  Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her “Plan for Peace.” Birth Control Review, April 1932

                  On the purpose of birth control:
                  The purpose in promoting birth control was “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

                  On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
                  “More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief aim of birth control.” Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

                  On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage:
                  “This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me inthe solution of marriage problems… Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable – these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation.” Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano’s, New York, 1927)

                  On the extermination of blacks:
                  “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she said, “if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon

                  On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:
                  In her “Plan for Peace,” Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed “feebleminded.” Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107

                  On adultery:
                  A woman’s physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11

                  On marital sex:
                  “The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order,” Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God’s view on the matter: “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” (Hebrews 13:4)

                  On abortion:
                  “Criminal’ abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women.” The Woman Rebel – No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

                  On the YMCA and YWCA:
                  “…brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!”), The Woman Rebel – No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

                  On the Catholic Church’s view of contraception:
                  “…enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR.” The Woman Rebel – No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

                  On motherhood:
                  “I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine.” What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915) [Jesus said: “Daughters of Jerusalem, weep… for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts which never gave suck.” (Luke 23:24)]

                  “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.” Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

                  The organization that this EVIL woman founded gives Obama a 100% rating. Which tells me more about Obama than I really want to know!

                • Great stuff Brenda.

                • 12grace

                  A non vote is a vote for obama.

                  Dinesh D’Souza Obama 2016 YouTube

                • brendawatkins

                  This might help you understand more clearly what’s going on.. Paul Ryan DID NOT LIE!

                • 12grace


                • Nukeman60

                  Since Obama lies every time he opens his mouth (eg, I am an American, I am a Christian, I am not a Muslim, I love this country, etc, etc), listing his lies could takes 4 years. I suggest that all we need are the 1001 reason why not to vote for Obama.


                • 12grace

                  Thank you for the link, N.

      • hbnolikeee

        Another troll. Throw out the crap and see what you can make stick.

      • JeffWRidge

        Ok, what did Walker lie about and when did he lie about it. Please give proof. Blogs and opinions will not be accepted as proof.

      • brendawatkins

        A bunch of LIARS are gonna keep someone honest? lol

    • Cain wouldn’t give them an interview and asked others to do the same. I agree with him. Anyone who watches them on a regular basis is beyond help anyway.

  • mike3e4r7

    Can’t watch those A-holes Scoop, but I’ll take your word for it. But it is nice to hear how desperate Maddow, Schultz, and that other guy are. Insisting the plant closed in Dec. 2008 when it closed in 2009. Hilarious!

    • check your facts…the plant closed in Dec 2008…it remains on standby…the decsion to close was made in June 2008…SUV sales were declining due to economy…but facts usually arent important to GOPers..

      • Nukeman60

        The Janesville plant stopped production of SUVs in 2008 and was idled in 2009 after it completed production of medium-duty trucks.

        Tough to make trucks when you’re shut down, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a perfectly good liberal story, Rachel.

        • By December 2008, when President George W. Bush authorized nearly $14 billion in loans to General Motors and Chrysler, both of which were near financial collapse, GM had already warned it might close the Janesville plant because of sagging sport-utility vehicle sales. The plant was effectively shut down on Dec. 23, 2008, when GM ceased production of SUVs there and laid off 1,200 workers. (Several dozen workers stayed on another four months to finish an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors.)

          So, the plant closed while Bush was still in office, about a month before Obama was inaugurated.

          • Sorry Charlie it closed in 2009 and your Marxist Messiah promised to reopen in 2010 why did he not big man?

            • Sorry GOPer close in Dec 2008…read Obama’s actual quote..above…if that helps…No promise there…Ryan lied…

              • hbnolikeee

                Do you pee in your pants too?

          • Nukeman60

            Just like Walker said, it was a two part layoff and the plant, as of Sept 19, 2011, was still not completely shut down. You seem to have missed the whole point of what he said. It was Obama who promised them that the plant would not be shut down with the stimulus. That was what Walker was telling them when they sadly attempted their ambush and it failed miserably, except to sucker in the few like you.

            • Exactly…Obama promised them and he lied…he promised the plant would reopen…it never has….

            • Its on standby…thats a GM decision…waiting for the economy…..obama did NOT make any promises…Read my citation here of the actual Obama quote…not promises..Ryan lied tonight..just one among several lies…

              • Nukeman60

                Read your responses. I already gave you the quote. Do I have to read your e-mail for you as well?

                • Who has control over corporate decisions????

                • Nukeman60

                  You do, when it comes to your e-mail. I would think you’d know that.

                • Hey nukeman, he meant who makes the corporate decisions at GM…or are you just toying with him? 🙂

                • Nukeman60

                  Yeah, I’m just toying, as he asked me a question about a previous post (in which I had already given him a response about the dictator Obama) and it had nothing to do with what I said about his e-mail. Sometimes, late nights are just for fun, if one can’t sleep.

                  I’ll be a good boy now.

                • Heh. Gotcha!

                • mike3e4r7

                  Way to go Nukeman60. Read your responses. Lol! Being a leftist means never having to be held accountable for what you say. When you’re called out, you just move on to the next lie, just like Thomas here.

                  I’m sure it’s been a depressing night for him, hence the need for his petty snarkiness. Maybe we should cut him a little slack… on second thought, Nah.

                • Nukeman60

                  I doubt if it was a depressing night for him. You have to know that you’re wrong to be depressed about it. Just look at Maddow, Schultz, and Sharpton. They didn’t have a clue that they were stepping in it. And to top it off, at the end, Maddow says, “thank you for being a good sport”, like it was some kind of game for them.

                  Come to think of it, it is.

              • If the economy is going to get better, they’re going to be “waiting” for one heck of a long time with O in the WH. If you haven’t seen 2016, I suggest you do, so that you know what O is really trying to do to this country.

              • hbnolikeee

                Duh Bumbler lies every time he opens his pie hole.

            • That’s what they were waiting for. They could have then brought many of the laid off employees back, if they so desired to come back (if they hadn’t moved on to something or somewhere else).

          • Read Wikipedia. They say it ran a skeleton crew in 2009 to finish making trucks. It was then made idle.


          • Even the AP showed that the Janesville plant was still open in April of 2009.


            • Thank you Right for the links…..Ignorance is bliss when you believe in Idiotville like Thomas!

            • Skeleton crew……

              • Skeleton crew = open. But as we estblished, that isn’t even the point.

                • Yep. They laid off employees from the SUV production side with the intention of bringing them back (or those who were able to come back) later on. That obviously never materialized.

          • Howzah123

            Attention Moron

            When Obama gave a speech at the plant, he promised that he would use the power of Government to keep it open

            He lied

            Got it now? Good

      • dennisdidit

        I was an Employee and they laid us off in DECEMBER. That is the fact

      • PVG

        Or apparently BO lap dogs who have been swallowing his lies for 4 years. Steep learning curve for you all who frequent CNN and

      • JeffWRidge
      • 12grace

        Era of Media Fact Checkers Intimidating Republicans Is Over

        Fact Checking Rep. Ryan’s RNC Speech
        Go to Brietbard video

        obama lies

  • What was Gov. Walker trying to accomplish by being interviewed by the union lackeys who tried to get him fired on a nightly basis? If not just to torture Special Ed, of course…

    • It’s possible he never intended to be “interviewed”(and I’m being generous calling it that) by the rest of the MSDNC crew. He might’ve thought it would just be a quick chat with the reporter on the convention floor. The whole episode looked like an attempt at an ambush, and Walker handled it perfectly.

      • Walker has avoided being interviewed by any source other than Fox…he is afraid of being challenged…good for MSNBC…..walker looked like an idiot…

        • In your dreams Thomas of Lying!! Walker was right…it closed in 2009 like the Wisconsin Newspaper is reporting andd OBAMA PROMISED TO REOPEN IN 2010…GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT MORON!

          • Obama did not promise anything…Obama quote at the Janesville plant in Feb 2008:

            “And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your president.”

            That’s a statement of belief that, with government help, the Janesville plant could remain open — but not a promise to keep it open.

          • Don’t feed the trolls please 🙂

            • MaxineCA

              I agree, but must admit it was fun watching everyone confuse him with the facts! Trolls hate the facts.

              • I didnt get any facts…just GOPer opinons…LOL

                • Hope you’ve had fun. You’re gone.

                • proudhispanicconservative

                  Scoop always there to answer the call

                • PVG

                  You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you over your pointy head. Be gone! Get back to your obamaville fantasy land……..your childhood bedroom by chance?

            • Tying to run from Ryan;s lies…where is Obama’s promise quote..I gave it to you guys on this thread.. its not a p romise…Ryan lies…

            • You are right…sorry…just like Scott Walker but you are right!! I will diet!

    • So GOPers should have freedom to say the bs talking points withouth challenge…Good for MSNBC…keep them honest…or tying to…

      • marketcomp

        Oh, are you admitting that liberals know something about honesty?!

        • I’m saying the GOP doesn’t..Ryan lied tonight about the GM plant..among several other things…someone has to keep them can’t blame the Dems without looking at your own parties failings…and they have plenty…

  • Nice job of holding a one sided intelligent discussion!

    • Ya walker would like it one sided….

      • Yeah like your liberals are so honest and open minded…save it troll and take a hike…go read the Wisconsin Journal’s story Thomas of Lying you may grow up!!

        • Give me obama’s promise…hint..his statement was in Feb 2008…but it wasnt a promise..READ THE QUOTE….

          • johnos2112

            Yeah Thomas. The sky is not really blue guys. It is more gray. You can twist whatever this clown says to make it like that is not what he meant. If what he says is not what he meant then get the hell off the board!

  • Nukeman60

    The ideal goal of any stimulus package is to keep things afloat till after any specific election. Fix a particular problem? What for? Just postpone the problems till after your elected and then shuffle it under the rug again. The money was the taxpayers, so it didn’t matter that it was wasted. You can always tax them again after the election. They won’t remember. Politics 101.

    Well, we are remembering now and we won’t ever forget. It’s the new elephant, one that actually never forgets. Doom to all politicians on both sides of the fence.

  • marketcomp

    MSNBC and the rest of MSM are becoming unhinged! They know that they are losing this fight which explains their reaction.

    • Why does Walker not want to talk…politicans need to be accountable to all the people not just their rabid base….Walker is part of the Elitist GOP they think they are immune to accountablity…

      • Well Thomas go right up in line and hold your MARXIST MESSIAN accountable for the disaster that he has done with the economy…step up and be a man and show us your great integrity big man!

      • marketcomp

        You know this topic is waaaaaay to complicated for you and its to detail for me to explain it to you. Go do some homework, inform yourself and then comeback and we can talk!

        • You can’t even explain it…you can’t cause you know ryan lies..obama did not promise anything….facts were never your strong point…so you run….

          • johnos2112

            What part of 700 billion being taken away from Medicare do you not get? Providers are gonna get screwed and then gets passed on to the patient. Nice try!

            • marketcomp

              johnos2112, its very difficult to talk to the uninformed! Thomas is so ignorant that to even try to explain anything to him will just result in frustration and lunacy. We are smarter than that because we know that if we want to truly articulate and engage we need to be informed. Thomas is just a useful idiot and the sad part is that he doesn’t even know it.

  • A_Trueism

    MSNBC – OWNED by Gov. Walker.

  • FreeManWalking

    Way to Go Gov Walker, That was a fair and balanced discussion, 1 conservative taking on 4 liberals, and giving it back better than they can dish-it-out or take it.

    • But not telling the truth…

      • johnos2112

        The truth is this Thomas. The auto unions were kept intact at GM. The bond holders got screwed and BTW you know those cute little Chevy volts Obama so loves? The plant just closed because nobody wants to drive them or own them. 42 straight months of crap unemployment numbers. History is ALWAYS on the side of conservative action. Lastly, if Obama has done so well for GM then why 42 straights months of crap?

  • ITs amazing how all the GOPers here support walker…so Walker is not to be held accountable to all of us…just to Fox which wont ask the hard questions…Walker runs from the media…he just want FOx to provide him a platform for his lies and propaganda…Good for MSNBC…Now if we can get CBS..ABC..CNN to go after him….watch him run….LOL

    • LOL…HEY BIG BOY lets see Obama go on interview with Sean Hannity since you are so concerned about Fox and Walker…lets see your Marxist Messiah take on a real interview with tough questions or he is too busy with Entertainment Tonight Punk!

      • Obama has been on FOx..big boy…but walker runs like a scared little kid..from the big bad MSNBC…what a pansy…

        • kamiller42
        • Nukeman60

          What politician wants to go on a network with only 6 viewers, well, 5 as long as you’re here typing?

          • 6 of the most educated people…not like Fox which studies have said are the most mis-informed…LOL

            • Nukeman60

              There’s no hyphen in misinformed, just to inform you.

              • NYGino

                The left make up their own rules, including rules of grammar.

                • Nukeman60

                  Yeah, people make mistakes in blogs, but you shouldn’t make mistakes when you’re in the process of lambasting the other side for being stupid. I had to laugh.

                • NYGino

                  Liberals are lacking the humor gene in all it’s forms. They cannot see irony or sarcasm or any form of subtle, informed humor. That is one of the reasons they are so angry and closed minded and just plain ignorant. Throw some good old fashioned wit at them and they are immediately confused and will respond with lies and personal attacks.

                  I bet you can’t remember the last time you heard a liberal recite a limerick.

                • Nukeman60

                  Sure I can. It goes like this:

                  There once was a man named Barack,

                  I voted for him…


        • No he has not…he did one sit down interview with O’Reilly…back in 2008…dream on…he is too much of a coward to take on Hannity or anyone that would ask him the tough questions…Walker has been on MSNBLOONEYC, CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC and more and never ducks a tough interview unlike your pamper boy!!

          • All Billo would do is monopolize the conversation…attack attack and never let obama answer…all for Billo’s brownie points with this right wing follower..Billo has no intention on being a true journalist…he’s just a big blowhard…

            • Smith Smith

              I’m lost are you decribing yourself now?

          • I remember that interview..worst I ever saw…Billo’s a terrible interviewer…Hannity is too…no journalist integrity….wont even let the person talk…all they do is yell and scream…disgusting…

        • Pansy..Walker? lets see just won re-election in June with greater support then before…took on the DNC hit machine, the unions, the left wing hacks and the Obama loons and kicked your butt…not once but twice…and he interviewed with anyone up to the vote…Gonads he has them…you do not…pansy look in the mirror tinker!

          • Pansy yes…wont face anybody but FOx…a loser…no credibililty…

            • badbadlibs

              Maybe you’re even more stupid then biden….Gov. Walker just faced four rabid, raving lunatic, un-hinged liberals on MSNBC, how is that “anybody but FOX”.
              Oh, and in case you forgot, Gov. Walker won TWICE, the second time with an even larger vote! Sore loser, thomas…..ROFLMAO!

    • kamiller42

      Walker was held accountable twice by the people Wisconsin. In both cases, the people of Wisconsin said “Shut your face. We like Walker. He tells the truth.” And, I agree with the people of Wisconsin.

  • Yes Right but Obama then promised that after the plant closed HE WOULD REOPEN THAT PLANT!! BUT HE DID NOT!! Ryan was spot on…Obama promised he would use the money to re-open that PLANT in 2010…BS…he never did…that was Paul’s point he campaigned on helping but the PROMISE NEVER CAME!! Walker and Ryan are right!

    • Give us Obama’s quote…exactly…waiting…waiting…not just your opinion of what he said…

      • Nukeman60

        We realize that you cannot perform google searches, so that’s what we’re here for – to help the helpless, but unlike Dennis Miller, sometimes the clueless too.

        • kamiller42

          Your move Thomas. waiting…. waiting…

          • As usual you missed the facts…GM shut the plant down because people were not buying SUV’s…that was a GM decision..still is…the plant is on standby since’d like to think Obama is a dictator and can force a company to make decisons he would like but that not how the system works…the money was there but GM didnt think the plant was worth reopening…capitalism at it best..

            • kamiller42

              That’s your response to Obama’s promise to save their plant? He’s not a dictator?

              “(But) I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this (General Motors) plant will be here for another hundred years,” said Barack Obama in February, 2008, promising UAW workers at GM’s giant, troubled plant in Janesville, Wisc., that he would watch over them if elected president. “When I talk about real change that will make a real difference in the lives of working families, it’s not just the poll-tested rhetoric of a political campaign. It’s the cause of my life. And you can be sure that it will be the cause of my presidency from the very first day I take office.”
              Has it been a hundred years?

              You can’t say Obama is not a dictator calling shots for private businesses. He has no problem running the show. Unfortunately, the show is vaudeville. GM, Chrysler, Solyndra, A123 Batteries, Ally Financial, Freddie, Fannie, and on and on.

            • Yeah and Obama was behind that controlled capitalism moron…in fact, was he applauds the GOVERNMENT takeover of GM…in fact, would that not have made Obama the CEO with the ability to make GM re-open the plant that he promised he would keep open…GM is after all GOVERNMENT MOTORS!! I mean are you telling us Obama could not force GM to keep open the plant after he had the US Government take it over??? Yeah Right!

            • Nukeman60

              When Obama took over GM, we became the stockholders and he became the CEO. In fact, he had a CEO of a private business step down, at his orders (sounds like a dictator to me).


        • badbadlibs

          He’s brainwashed and brain dead….but, that’s ok, he and his marxists lunatics are on their way out….
          I honestly believe that liberals are sociopaths, so no amount of truth will make a bit of difference.
          They just make fun target practice….verbally.

          • Nukeman60

            Yep, that’s what the cheap cartridges are for.

            Speaking of (not so) cheap cartridges, and I suppose this is O/T but you led me in, has anyone seen the reports of the government buying up over a billion rounds of hollow point cartridges and then using the excuse that it’s just for ‘target practice’. Interesting developements. I may bring it up in the next open thread that doesn’t have over 230 comments already on it.


            • badbadlibs

              this is the same government that wants to limit or be rid of the second amendment. What are they going to do with all those bullets…..
              Wonder of tommy idiot knows that bo just sealed the fate of that plant ever opening up again:

              bo just killed the car industry

      • Okay in campaign stop in 2008 Obama told them as part of the stimulus he would keep the plant open…it closed in 2009..he waited on Simpson Bowles however Obama never made any move to keep the plant open as he promised in 2008…that was in 2010

      • Here you go Thomas, the last line is what you’re looking for. What he is saying is that if he is elected the plant would stay open. Well he was elected but the plant did not stay open.
        Especially in Janesville where we were about to lose a major factory. A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that G.M. plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said, “I believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years.”

  • MSNBC Morons!

  • MaxineCA

    Since I never watch MSLSD, I wouldn’t have seen that. Guess they must be having a hard time booking conservatives to come on, so they now have to go to the floor and attempt to do an ambush interview.

    I saw earlier today that Herman Cain cancelled an interview with MSLSD since Mathews melt down playing the race card with Priebus & and made an attempt with Newt.

    I thought Walker handled Madcow and her herd great! What a bunch a pathetic people pretending to be journalists.

    • They had Gingrich…Rice…and those were great interviews…Walker was a bonus…

    • I agree MSNBLOONEYC is a bunch of left wing America Haters that live off race baiting and have nothing to contribute to help America….they seethe with anger and hatred and they hate individual success and love big government…Obama was taken to the showers tonight and MSNBCLOONEYC was in meltdown. Scott just helped them!! I love it when Obama claims Mitt murdered Ms. Soptic’s wife that is okay but Paul calling out how Obama promised in 2008 to keep plant open but even after his debt commission met in 2010 the plant was still closed!

      • I thoght that was Fox….and Rush…and the other right wing haters…LOL

        • badbadlibs

          You thought wrong. Your side is the most hateful, dispicable bunch of anti american unpatriotic lunatics. You vile people are destroying the greatest country on earth, but your time is limited. Americans won’t be fooled twice, bo and his brownshirts are on their way out.
          You’re as dumb as the vp, you might want to recall that Gov. Walker beat your sorry rats ass not once but twice ROFLMAO!!!!!
          You’re just going to have to gather your fellow marxists and take that slow leaky boat to Cuba….your socialist utopia awaits.

          • Nukeman60

            And he did it in a previously liberal state. Wisconsin belongs to us now.

            My daughter-in-law has a lot of relatives in Wisconsin and she kept telling me throughout the entire recall process that Walker was going to get his butt handed to him. When it was all over, I told her to go ask her relatives, politely, if Walker was showing any butt yet, as he surely should have had it handed back by now.

      • p m

        Half this darn comment section is taken up by the mindless goon you keep replying to. Spare us. PLEASE don’t keep feeding him. You can see he has no capacity to debate.
        Thank you!

        • Nukeman60

          Aww, maaa. I never git to have any fun. Oh, alrighty. 🙂

          • p m

            Thanks boys!! 🙂

        • proudhispanicconservative

          Excellent point, those people are Obama operatives trying to infiltrate, I dont comment, or try to convince them of anything…..

          • Ditto…oops, I’m quoting that right-wing hater Rush Limbaugh. (sarc-on)I hate that when it happens.(sarc-off)

            • proudhispanicconservative

              Lol we have to be careful you know

              • Silly me.

                • proudhispanicconservative


  • Mark Smith

    Ha, the Governor who practically put Ed Shultz in a rubber room. And of course this thread is hijacked by troll Thomas, who just MUST have been that grown man who was crying on CNN the night Walker had his tremendous electoral repeat victory.

    • Just one more push for Commissar Schultz and he will keep “Thrill up my leg” company soon.

  • PFFV

    Liberals now attack in a pack mentallity. They use bogus facts to make a stand of certainty that the interviewee is telling lies. We live in a world of idiots that believe their own lies, scary shit!


    • You should see the Google searches. I’ve tried other searches besides Google and was able to find exactly what I was looking for in the past. I may have to try that approach again because Google seems to favor lefties in their search metrics quite a bit. Man, those lefties work super fast to try to disprove anything they think is a lie…in other words, the facts.

      • Nukeman60

        I see that Bing does the same thing. First up on my list of searches is always HuffPo, NYTimes, or WaPo. I need to find other search engines.

        Who’s got good examples out there?

        • NYGino

          Get Moochelle on the line. She’s got an answer for everything.

          • Nukeman60

            I called Moochelle and, as you would expect, she did have an answer for me, but I don’t think that is physically possible for me to do. The conversation was rather short, so I couldn’t get her to expound upon her comment.

            All I got before we were disconnected was something about criminal conversation aligned with right-wing Christian ideologies. I don’t know. I was a little confused, but I guess Barry was calling for another plate of Pate de Fois Gras of Canis Lupus.

        • p m

          Found this article from Free Republic last month that asks the same question and gives some ideas. I’ve been using Ixquick but it’s teamed with google now, so time for a change. DuckDuckGo cuts all the bloat and is private far as I can see.

          • Nukeman60

            Thanks for the link. I’ll check it out.

        • I’ve used Copernic Agent Personal before. Although it is limited, it is free. I could choose which search engines to perform searches with (Google is not in the list), how many results per page to show, to save search pages, and even a particular country’s Web domain. Here’s the link:

          • Nukeman60

            Thanks, Chris. I’ll check your site out as well. I’m sure I’ll come up with something, but it appears most search engines seem tied to Google and/or Bing. Very frustrating.

            Yours might prove better than others.

            • No problem. Copernic is more of a search tool that uses various search engines and Web domains. I just got through installing it and I noticed that Google is not one of the search engines that can be selected. The version that you can purchase has more options to choose from and more bells and whistles, of course.

  • 911Infidel

    “The MSNBC folks were relying on the reporting of the Washington Post, which apparently got it wrong. ”

    The Washington Post: “If you don’t get it, its because you do get it”.

    • Relying on the WaPo for facts…that was their first mistake.

      • 911Infidel

        I don’t know who is worse, the so-called “Fact Checkers”, the Slime newspulper papers, or the Wiki sites. These people revel in crap like pigs in a poke.

  • p m

    “Gov. Scott Walker did an interview with MSNBC from the floor of the RNC.”

    Why, why, why? WHEN will the republicans learn that they will never win these ambushes, and will only enable more lies to be created? Why do they do it??

    • michael carpenter

      With respect, Scott Walker was an oak. An adult. The opposition seemed to be akin to scurrying insects.

      • michael carpenter

        Not all ambushes end with defeat.

      • p m

        Scott Walker won this one, but I worry about whether anyone will see it, or just the loaded questions with the anchors ‘summing up’ answers or talking over responses. The dem lying machine never rests and no matter what a conservative says, it seems to get twisted by the alphabets to become the next distraction. Thanks for your reply, mc.

  • dennisdidit

    Ask a worker an you will get the truth it was in fact closed for a temporary layoff as were told in December 2008 and then stayed closed permanently later in 2009 before the Stimulus was signed.

  • MaxineCA

    Thomas, Thomas, Thomas – Have you NOT figured out yet that you will not influence opinions here? Facts are a funny thing to those who do not comprehend them.

    Hope you enjoyed you short stay in Scoopsville, but I think it’s time for you to exit “Stage Left” (you may not be old enough to remember that reference, but that’s OK since it seems to be the door from which you entered.)

    Go back to watching MSM and remain uninformed.

  • I heard some leftard argue on Limbaugh that El Presidente pulled the car companies from the brink. One example the leftard used was Honda. Honda? Ah, no. They didn’t receive bailout funds to my knowledge and they are doing very well besides. So is Ford, another automobile manufacturer that didn’t take a bailout. GM and Chrysler took bailout money and look at where they are today. Not doing very well, are they? By the way, where did all the stimulus money go? Not all of it was dispersed to keep state and local governments running and to build highways, bridges, etc. (you know, the not-so-shovel-ready jobs Prez O joked about?) So where did the rest of the money go? Oh that’s right, the money went to the DNC, Prez O’s union thug buddies, lobbyists, Prez O’s campaign fund, failed green energy companies, and campaign contributors.

  • michael carpenter

    I never would have thought Scott Walker could slam dunk. But this video proves me wrong.

  • michael carpenter

    Way to handle Jr High children!

  • More facts that escape the lefty loons like Madcow, Sharpie, and Commissar Schultz. Here is proof that the Janesville plant did close in 2009:

    The plant stopped SUV production in December of 2008. The plant was “shuttered” in 2009. Another loser for the lefty talking heads and Media Matters.

    • proudhispanicconservative

      Thank you that sounded racist…………sarc.

      • LOL…I’ll try to tone it down.

      • WordsFailMe

        LOL so “shuttered” is also a code word? Thanks mi amigo

        • LOL…it sure is.

  • Tough SOB that Walker. I like him!!

  • Paul Ryan never actually says the plant closed under Obama. He hints at it and anyone listening to the speech couldn’t be faulted for thinking he said it but he never actually says it. The beauty of the lie is in its deniability. He can always claim, “That’s not what I said.”
    Ryan is a pro.

    • It doesn’t matter to the hyper-reactionary lefties. They were waiting for it and they attacked like a pack of drooling hyenas.

  • El Presidente’s speech he gave to the Janesville GM plant workers in February of 2008:

    The last couple of paragraphs sum it up.

  • PVG

    Maddow looked like a genius next to dumb and dumber…..
    Honestly, I don’t know how Walker kept from rolling his eyes. Ed and Al…pathetic!

  • proudhispanicconservative

    “no matter how much you talk over me the facts are the facts” wow Speaker of the house Scott Walker

  • Why would he even agree to do an interview with these foolish turds. You cant argue with people who dont care about knowing the facts, let alone lie. It was time Walker could have spent buffing his toenails which is more productive, IMHO.

    • I don’t believe he thought he’d be savaged by the MSNBC hyenas. It seems he was prepared for a short session and not an attack based on lies from the WaPo, Media Matters, and El Presidente’s media henchmen. A lesson learned, which he will take with him to his next encounter with lefty-loos like those at MSNBC.

  • Rocco11

    Was that Ed Schultz or Kathleen Turner?

  • kong1967

    The stimulus was nothing more than conservative states pumping money into liberal states to pay for their freaking unions that are killing them. All it did was to force all states to pay for the unions in a few states. If you give a guy money to pay for his bad habits he will do nothing to get rid of the bad habits. You have to let the guy suffer the cosequences. Let the liberal states feel the pain that will force them to crush the unions or become states of poverty.

  • Ed Shultz, stuff another twinkie in your fat face and STFU.

    I love how one liberal media outlet lies and then the other’s pick up that lie as if it was the truth.

  • NCHokie02

    I know it’s been discussed before, especially in the primaries, but the bias is unreal. I mean they don’t even hide it or try to look like a “non-partisan” news agency. Though I thought Gov Walker handled himself well and didn’t give those hacks a leg to stand on.

  • CalCoolidge

    Hey, Fat-Head Edd and Madcow Disease. It’s real simple. Obama campaigned on the plant being open, and instead he kept it closed. Take your pick: broken promise, lie, whatever. He illegally gave $35 billion in our money to his cronies at GM, but they didn’t use the money to keep the plant open as promised.

  • Rocco11

    Will some(most) on our side ever get it? These are not serious people.

  • 12grace

    I think Conservatives should not even give the obama owned liberal stations interviews since they are never given a fair opportunity to express their Conservative views.

  • msnbs has no credibility or ethics. Walker turned Wisconsin around from a crony bankrupt union hell hole to a recovering state with a surplus. Shame on the msm

  • The silent majority will speak come Nov and these liars will be done.

  • Sober_Thinking

    It’s like listening to the three (or four) stooges – except the’re pissed and dillusional. Walker was too kind to walk right into both barrells of that gun, disguised as an interview.

    The biggest hate-mongers in America are on MSNBC. Those people will NEVER get it. They can wallow in their ignorance and fester in their unhappiness… let them remain unenlightened and ignorant because they militantly refuse to accept the truth. And let their audiences grow ever smaller…

  • GOP, don’t bother helping their ratings any more.

  • donmoffet

    These people are thugs.

  • I happened to turn on MSNBS during that segment and have no fear – Walker had them outnumbered all by himself. He gave Schultz a good smackdown for interrupting and talking over him, and Walker’s only failure was trying to explain what he was talking about to them. It was like trying to discuss Shakespeare with 3 clowns in the middle of their act.

    • 12grace

      Have you seen this?

      Craig’s List Advertisement (General Sales)

      We’ll find a buyer soon!


      Fifty-year old manure spreader. Not sure of brand. Said to have been produced in Kenya. Used for a few years in Indonesia before being smuggled into the US via Hawaii. Of questionable pedigree. Does not appear to have ever been worked hard.

      Apparently, it was pampered by various owners over the years. It doesn’t work very often, but when it does it can sling crap for amazing distances. I am hoping to retire the
      manure spreader this November.
      I really don’t want it hanging around getting in the way. I would prefer a foreign buyer to relocate the manure spreader out of the country. I would be willing to trade it for a nicely framed copy of the United States Constitution.

      Currently being stored in a big white house in Washington , D.C.

      • Landscaper

        Good one. I have a dollar.

        • 12grace


      • LMAO

  • tinker_thinker

    MSNBC reminds me of rabid dogs.

  • Even if it did close in 12/08, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t have been reopened a few months later if Obama’s policies were effective.

    If you parse Ryan’s words he’s still accurate even if the plant closed before Obama was sworn in. Obama probably visited the plant prior to 12/08 and said the bailout would save the plant. If that was true, the plant surely could have reopened a few months later.

  • brendawatkins

    A simple google search will prove the truth.. but, I suspect it really isn’t truth they’re looking for. The TRUTH can’t get their guy re-elected, can it, MSNBC?

  • TomGMS

    Walker kicked some stupid, stupid ass. But he kicked it clear across the field, especially after giving such a great speech. This guy’s got the goods.

  • MiketheMarine

    Maobama did not pour money into the company. He poured money into the United Auto Worker’s union.

  • Smith Smith

    here is a good break down of the timeline. Before Obama became the worse president ever, He told Janesville plant he would get them going again.

    The whole fact is, the plant closed due to the left union groups strangling business until that can’t be competive here state to state and not even close to other countries when it comes down to it. Nothing is done about fair trade and our business can’t make enough revenue to stay a float with high Union deals and killing trade and poor policy.

  • Landscaper

    Crow may become indangered because the Libs are having to alot of it in 2012.

  • olivebrance

    Even if I could buy into the Progressive agenda, I could never go along with what is supposed to be news sources acting like attack dogs for the obama campaign. Why does the left want to be made to look like fools by media that refuses to allow them to make informed decisions? That, in and of itself, is enough to tell me the whole darn party is lying, cheating, corrupted, hate-mongers. The pres should have enough integrity to tell journalists to act professional since they are making the whole bunch of them look like lunatics.

  • Army_Pilot1967

    I think Governor Walker did a good job of refuting the misinformation that the Libtalkers were throwing at him. And his point about “…it doesn’t matter how long you talk over me, those are the facts…” Great comment…that was probably wasted on the three Libtalkers!!!

  • jlbs

    What in the world would Maddow know about “being a good sport”? I just read today that the plant in Janesville, in fact, closed in April or May of 2009, not Dec. of 2008. There were 2 parts to this factory and only one part closed in Dec. ’08. The other part was still producing until April or May of 2009.

  • Good grief, it’s not enough that they’re liars and idiots, that was downright unprofessional.

  • LOL The Three Stooges got eye poked, head butted, and chinned by good Gov. of Wisconsin

  • No wonder he won!