NBC News: Paul Ryan BALLOONED the deficit by voting for “the Bush tax cuts”

Misinformation has apparently become accepted truth over at NBC. Tonight they were reviewing Paul Ryan’s record, noting the things that were contrary to his reputation as a deficit hawk. But one of the specifically caught my attention:

Of course they included the Afghanistan/Iraq wars, both of which I still agree with. But the Bush tax cuts? What is this the Marxist News Network? The Bush tax cuts, despite what Obama and the Democrats say, did not balloon the deficit. To suggest it did means that they think all money belongs to the government who lets us Bible-clinging red-necks keep some of it. But that’s bullcrap.

In fact what really happened was that revenue to the government increased after the Bush tax cuts as jobs increased. Were it not for meddling Democrats in the 90’s, we wouldn’t have had the sub-prime mortgage crisis and all of these toxic loans which lead to a collapse of the housing market. It’s TARP and other bailouts that ballooned the deficit, not to mention the biggest spender in this history of the known universe, Barack Obama.

Which brings me to my next point, that Biden also voted for TARP, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and you know he supports the Auto Bailout because that’s what they are running on.

Look, I don’t have a problem with them looking at Ryan’s record, but it would have been good for them to put it in context with the current VP. But I do have a problem with lies and misinformation, and to suggest that the Bush tax cuts ballooned the deficit is absurd.

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  • Joe

    Marxist News Network


    —————— N othing B ut C rap


    ——————-That sums it up !

    • The Bush tax cuts of 2001 cut the lowest income bracket by 33 percent (from 15 to 10) and the middle income brackets by 12 to 25 percernt
      Revenues dropped drastically (you could argue in part because of the effects of 911 on the economy)
      The Bush tax cuts of 2003 cut the top rate by 3.5 percent. Revenues INCREASED drastically and we were on the road again to deficit reductiion. But then sadly, Democrats took control of congress.

  • destroyer_of_moonbats


    • Thanks. I work hard to make people yawn.

      • conservative58

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        This is an AWESOME site!

        • Thank you, I really appreciate that. 🙂

          • Joe

            Even I think so!

            Thanks for the FUN!

          • toongoon

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        • NoToTyrants

          Big Ditto!

        • bobemakk

          I agree, without the Right Scoop how would the conservatives survive and get the “right” news. Thanks for doing a great job, no yawning here.

      • B-Funk

        I wouldn’t take that personally. For me, it may sometimes be yawn because the libs are so predictable and it just gets tiring after a while to see the same tactics used against us time after time after time. They just get dull. Honestly, I don’t think that yawn was directed at you.

      • Sober_Thinking


        We appreciate what you do… 🙂

  • johnos2112

    The lies is all they have scoop! Their old arguments still have merit because the lies continue. We all know that tax cuts create revenue streams without increasing the debt. We just have to continue and educate the illiterate.

  • 4rcane

    didn’t obama extend the bush tax cuts, but he’s not responsible for the deficit?

  • odin147

    I thought the one wanted to extend 98% of bush tax cuts, besides a tax cut does not add to the deficit, spending does. Lack of revenues add to the deficit. A tax cut could increase revenue but that is beyond the comprehension of the liberal because it is counter intuitive.

  • KenInMontana

    Hmmm, so, six years of Democrats voting through spending measures had nothing to do with it? Failure of the Democrats to put forth anything resembling a budget for how many years now? Then cap it off with the largest spending and regulatory boondoggle (AHCA) in recent history and their strategy is to blame Ryan for this? Let’s not forget that once TARP and the bailout measures were passed, it was the current administration that doled them out and made all the decisions on their allocation.

    Those are some pretty good drugs they’re on, that’s for certain.

    • librtifirst

      Do you think that those drugs are FDA approved?

      • KenInMontana

        Probably some of that CIA “recipe” LSD from the late 50’s early 60’s.

        • librtifirst

          I have heard that people have flashbacks 25 years later. Maybe they actually pass on a mutated LSD gene that creates a liberal mindset.

  • d1carter

    Does anyone still think NBC has a serious news organization..?

    • They have an audience and the power of influence, unfortunately.

  • Rshill7

    Revenue tends to go up when taxes are cut. Reagan’s tax cuts increased revenue and so did Bush’s. Art Laffer shows with his Laffer Curve how that works. There is an optimum number, much like there is an optimum price for the sales of a company’s product in order to maximize the profit on that product.

    You can look at revenues between 2001 and 2007. They went way up. The graph looks eerily similar to the Reagan revenue graph of the 80’s.

    NBC counts on an ignorant audience, also known as O’s base. What they are trying to do with this, other than lie their butts off is to convince undecided, and independent dunces.

    It seems that there are at least two reasons democrats like tax increases. It feeds into class warfare and causes more folks to become dependent on the “largesse” of government by decreasing company growth and corresponding job growth. They seem to fancy themselves as modern day Robin Hoods. While at it they should stick feathers in their hats and call it macaroni. Why? Why not? It’s no more ludicrous than what they actually do.

    It’s that spirit zapping largesse that keeps people down and keeps them voting for those allowing them to stay down. It’s a vicious cycle and democrats know it. They must however, figure out ways to blame the opposition. NBC is trying to help them do that. It’s a shame that democrats cannot win on their own, like Republicans have to. When democrats win it’s because of the media. When Republicans win, it’s in spite of the media. Thankfully the traditional media is becoming more and more irrelevant.

    Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves for partnering with them.

    By the way, if anyone knows why Yankee Doodle called the feather he stuck in his hat macaroni I’d be very interested in hearing that.

    • Mark Levin referred to NBC tonight as a “collection of morons”. That made me LOL

  • conservative58

    And didn’t dear leader just propose bailing out every major industry like they did the auto bailout? (Since that worked out so well for us tax payers.)

    Talk about ballooning the deficit!

    I’m way past fed up with Obama’s administration, Hollywood celebs, and the lame stream media!!

  • Patriot077

    As usual they have the story backwards. It isn’t reduced tax rates that balloon the deficit, it’s the ballooning spending and borrowing.

    I’d like to see my wallet balloon for a change.

    • Joe

      BINGO !



      (now I get it)

      ************** BAM! ****************

      • Patriot077

        You’re right. Bizzaro world it is!

  • Rshill7

    Here’s a wee bit of friendly, life-saving, advice for NBC “News” folk:

    If your pants burst into flames, go jump in a lake.

    I’m an advice philanthropist. You’re welcome.

  • el_jefe33

    it’s only going to get worse. spend your time informing your family and friends of the fight we are in and have ahead of us.

    The MSM is desperate. This is all they have left. They are not going to just throw up their hands and give in.

    We are winning….

  • white531

    It will begin now. Now that everything is in place and the VP slot for Romney has been filled. The Obama campaign is kicking into high gear for the biggest smear campaign this country has ever seen. The Liberal Press is licking it’s chops, chomping at the bit to interview Romney and Ryan in every awkward venue they can put them in. What a sickening process this has become, this very important business of electing a President. But we have to do it. Because they are doing it. God help us. And I really mean that. God help us. We will need all the help we can get.

  • NBC news sucks

  • B-Funk

    Repeat the lie enough times, and people will accept it as truth. Alinsky 101 stuff going on here. Sad that it works. Maybe we should start using those tactics right back at them.

  • freenca

    Sorry to be OT rightscoop , but I have been watching Hannity and Priebus, and I think what they are missing is that BO claims that HE HAS SUCCEEDED in his plans for America in his years as president. They need to use that as a campaign issue. IMO!

    • librtifirst

      Yep, and their success is based on the fact that we haven’t collapsed yet. That is what they call success. Pretty sad definition.

      • freenca

        Yeah! If failure of a country is the standard they aspire to, the downgrading of our credit rating and our overall independence worldwide as a nation is what they want, then it is a resounding success. Why not use that pride for their demise? We can do it!!

  • greatj

    Obama extended the Bush tax cuts.M.S.N.B.C. never made that an issue.SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA.

  • anyonebutbarry2012

    NBC along with others, you can listen or watch if you like, but if you want the real truth , you best go investigate it yourself. I thought NBC’S coverage of the Olympics was awful.When I want the truth about something I turn on Mark Levin. I will vet Ryan myself, so not need NBC’s lies.

  • Sober_Thinking

    No news is good news… (NBC’s motto)

    The media is criminally liable for a lot of what is wrong with this country. Until they can report stories honestly, with integrity and respect… with a little journalistic objectivity, then they remain no better than terrorists. Too radical to suggest that? Terrorists spread lies, terror and cause panic… how is that different than what NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other rag stations do? What they are dishing out is dishonesty and misinformation… and it’s destroying this nation. They are NOT about making things better. They are a key part of the problem… not the solution.

    I don’t know the solution on how to fix these cruddy rag “news” organizations… so I’ll just get my news from pure, untainted sources (like TRS) and drink deeply.

    Pray for our country.

  • History has proven , more than once, that tax cuts promote economic growth and jobs, and of course jobs promote more income tax collections which increases money coming into the government coffers. So where is the ballooned deficit from the Bush tax cuts–it is all foolish diversion from the incompetent Obama thugs who are cashing in on the national media propaganda machine. And that is all the media is – Obama’s propaganda machine. People that want to know the truth should never tune into the alphabet media.

  • Goldni007

    For the record, President George Bush’s 2003 tax cuts: raised federal tax receipts by $785 billion, the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history. In fiscal 2007, the government took in 6.7% more tax revenues than in 2006. These increases in tax revenue have substantially reduced the federal budget deficits. In 2004 the deficit was $413 billion, or 3.5% of gross domestic product. It narrowed to $318 billion in 2005, $248 billion in 2006 and $163 billion in 2007. That last figure is just 1.2% of GDP, which is half of the average of the past 50 years. Lower tax rates have been so successful in spurring growth that the percentage of federal income taxes paid by the very wealthy has increased. According to the Treasury Department, the top 1% of income tax filers paid just 19% of income taxes in 1980 (when the top tax rate was 70%), and 36% in 2003, the year the Bush tax cuts took effect (when the top rate became 35%). The top 5% of income taxpayers went from 37% of taxes paid to 56%, and the top 10% from 49% to 68% of taxes paid. And the amount of taxes paid by those earning more than $1 million a year rose to $236 billion in 2005 from $132 billion in 2003, a 78% increase.

  • RedDaveR

    The GOP and conservatives need to go out and make the case to the public that NBC is not a reliable news source (or ABC, CBS, CNN either).

  • Test post to see if I’m getting posted.

    • KenInMontana

      You are.

  • Yet it’s “strange” that NBC never talks about what Obama’s economic policies are doing to this country. Worse, they never seem to talk about what Obama’s economic plans for the future are. That’s because they can’t, since Obama doesn’t have any. Obama’s only plan is to TAX MORE AND SPEND MORE. Well, at least that will fit nicely on a liberal bumper sticker.

  • Who cares!! NBC enough said….and if he would have voted against TARP they would have said he would have let the US fall apart and destroyed the economy!! SO THE HECK WHAT…no matter what way he voted HE would have been called a name by NBC!!! WHO CARES…why do conservatives worry about NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN or MSNBC????????????? They are never going to compliment Romney or Ryan….yet we point out this and that!! DOES IT CHANGE NO!!

    And do not tell me about the other voters who are not as informed….only 28 percent of people believe the MSM and those 28 percent are already voting for OBAMA….NBC is only watched by left wing loons!!

    Dems have called TAX CUTS the cause of deficits for years…NOTHING NEW….Of course NBC will never cover all the DARN SPENDING AND MASSIVE ENTITLEMENTS THE DEMS HAVE CAUSED!! Notice Spending is never covered by NBC..

    Ladies and gentlemen if this is all the DEMS and NBC have they are shooting BLANKS!!

    OBAMA…..16 trillon dollars debt and 15 percent real unemployment and record poverty and record food stamps…THAT IS WHAT AMERICANS KNOW….

    Ask the average American about TARP they will be clueless….and at the time the overwhelming amount of people in the US wanted TARP passed!!

    TAX CUTS are always favored!! Make no bones about it!!

    You want to talk SPENDING NBC: OBAMACARE!!! and MORE DEFICITS!!

  • Sandra123456

    Some where we need to establish an “Undeniable Facts of Life” book. In this book will be listed proven facts,in the hope that the human race doesn’t have to relearn every 50 to 100 years what prior generations have known/learned.

    One fact to be established is do tax cuts work? Do tax cuts stimulate the economy, stimulate job growth and increase revenue to the treasury? When we prove that we will enter that in the Undeniable Truths of Life book for all to behold and so Liberals can’t lie about it.

    This sounds silly but there isn’t a left way and a right way of doing everything. There are absolutes in life. I know Liberals hate absolutes, but to relearn over and over again what is the right way and what is the wrong way is a waste of a lot of things (time, energy, people’s lives etc.).

  • When you decrease revenue, the deficit increases, because deficit=revenue-spending. The Bush tax cuts decreased the amount of revenue the government received. As a matter of fact, the absolute amount of revenue decreased for the first few years after the Bush tax cuts passed, and the revenue as a share of GDP is still less years later than it was before. Some people have noted that the absolute amount of revenue has increased by now. The absolute amount of revenue increases most years, because the GDP increases most years. In fact, looking at the amount of revenue that is coming in versus the amount of revenue that would have come in had the tax cuts not been passed, you can see the tax cuts decreased revenue. Numbers should always be measured on a per capita basis, not an absolute basis. If you were to measure what country is the most prosperous on using the same method that this post uses to measure whether the Bush tax cuts increased revenue, then you would have to say that China is a lot better off than Japan, even though China’s GDP per capita and average income is less than 4 times as much as Japan’s.

    • kong1967

      Bullcrap. Revenues did not decrease because of the tax cuts. In Bush’s early years revenues went down because of the Dot Com bubble and the 9/11 attacks. But after the tax breaks were passed in 2003 the next four years produced a 44% increase in federal revenues. The amount of taxes paid by the rich drastically went up and the taxes paid by the lower end paid less. You can’t just make up your own facts.


      If you want to talk expenditures it’s a different story. The extra revenue didn’t do any good because of higher spending. But, before you blame Bush you might want to look to see which party controlled Congress first.

      Let’s just say you are right…which you aren’t. Even if revenues went down it doesn’t excuse the deficit. If you get a job that pays $1,000 less than your previous job you have to tighten your belt and stop frivolous spending. This is what government should have done if revenues were less (which they weren’t), but they didn’t.

      Politicians need to stop spending money they don’t have and budget off the revenues they do have. Democrats don’t even budget any more and they just spend spend spend without regard to revenues, then they hold their hands out and demand more money. No more.

      • As long as our money is debt, nothing will change. Our corrupt system is dependent upon it. Only competition will break the Fed’s monopolistic stranglehold on our economy.

        • kong1967

          No argument here.

    • GDP is a poor measure of the economy, created by a Russian during the New Deal era. GDP was up substantially in the early 1940s, despite the fact that Americans couldn’t even buy a new house or car for years and many items like butter and gasoline were being rationed.

  • kong1967

    CBS used to be the worst at pushing Democrat lies, but I think they’ve been replaced by NBC.

    • Ya. They lost their edge when Dan “Courage” Rather was retired.

      • kong1967

        Lol, yep.

  • Rocco11

    If they don’t have a 911 tape to doctor, they’ll make up their own…

  • EchoMike

    I keep telling libs this:
    Tax rates don’t cause deficits.
    Spending more than you take in does!

  • As frustrating as the GOP leaders have been on confronting Obama, they’re at least sane, functional grownups compared to their counterparts.

    John Boehner had a meltdown fit about Obamacare and the way it was passed, right there on the floor of the House, that did my heart good.

    NBC doesn’t get that this isn’t a normal election: it’s not a choice between democrat or republican, progressive or conservative.

    It’s a choice between sanity or insanity.

  • bobemakk

    Paul Ryan is a deficit cutting hawk, he would not vote for anything that would increase the deficit. The left is running out of defenses in their campaign. They would do anything to smear the republicans. Do we really want another 4 years of the Obama regime, with our deficit reaching $16 trillion??? The dems accuse Romney and the republicans of cutting medicare, while Obama himself borrowed $716 billion from medicare to pass his BS Obamacare.

    Romney/Ryan must win.

  • OOOPS, Did he say that and vote for that…YES Ryan DID! Pride before the fall…after the fall comes SHAME! Oh, GOP have NO shame for their wrong doing! 🙁