By KenInMontana


So, the Left is looking to lock horns over shootin’ irons are they? They have rolled out all the tired, time worn, threadbare clichés once again. You know the ones, “Why do you need an assault rifle?” or “No one needs high capacity magazines.” Well it seems that we have let them set the terms of this “war of words” long enough. What do I mean by “set the terms”, you ask? Well just pull up a chair and sit a spell while I unravel this dastardly butchery of words that these polecats have perpetrated.

Let’s start with the myth of the “High Capacity Magazine” shall we? By its very nature the High Capacity magazine is one that holds beyond the “Standard Capacity”. So what, exactly, defines Standard versus High capacities? Standard would be what the firearm was designed with and sold with, High Cap would be anything larger than the Standard. Let’s look at a few examples. (I’ll even throw in pictures).

The “1911”

Caliber: .45 ACP
Standard Magazine: 7 rounds

 

 

 

Some variants built by some manufacturers are built around larger double stacked magazines. Para-Ordnance of Canada is one such example fielding 1911 variants that hold 12 (the Model P-12) or even 15 (Model P-15), as they are purpose built around these larger magazines, the magazines are then actually, Standard Capacity.

 

The Browning High Power

Caliber: 9×19 mm
Standard Magazine: 13 rounds

 

 

 

The Beretta 92

Caliber: 9x19mm
Standard Magazine: 15 rounds

 

 

So, let’s turn our attention to longarms (rifles, to those unfamiliar with the term) the ubiquitous “evil black rifle” or EBR.

The AR-15
Sexy ain’t she? (sorry a little levity there) Okay, seriously here, the AR-15 a semiautomatic rifle, which means boys and girls, that she is only capable of spitting out one round at a time. No matter how fast you pull the trigger.

No, the “AR” does not stand for “Assault Rifle”, what it does denote is the rifle’s origins, the “AR” stands for Armalite Rifle. It is available in a wide variety of chamberings from .22 Long Rifle up to .338 Lapua and .300 Winchester Magnum, it is most commonly chambered for 5.56mm NATO and or .223 Remington (the two are nearly identical).

It also has the distinction of having two (that’s right, two) Standard Magazines, a 20 round and 30 round in its native caliber. High capacity magazines for this rifle at the moment consist of 40, 50, 60 and 100 rounds. Yes, I said 100, that’s not a typo, if you are considering one of those monsters, I suggest duct taping a 15 lbs dumbbell to your rifle and walk around the house for 30 minutes. I know a guy that paid a premium for one of those 100 round BETA magazines (he used it exactly once).

Automatic vs. Semi-Automatic
“Automatic” is perhaps the most widely misused term when it comes to firearms, even seasoned firearms folks are guilty of this (I’ve been guilty of it my own self). So, what’s the difference?, you might ask. Well huckleberries, pull up a stool and I’ll bend yer ears a bit.

Automatic, also referred to as “Auto” or “Full Auto” simply means that when you squeeze the trigger the weapon will fire and continue to fire until one of two things happen. You release the trigger or, you expend all the ammo in the magazine.

Semi-Automatic, or “Semi” simply stated means that when you squeeze the trigger the weapon will fire one round and reload itself. If you continue to hold the trigger, nothing will happen. You have to release and squeeze again to fire each subsequent round (rinse and repeat).

While we are dealing with “terms” let’s address another, “Assault Rifle”. This is a somewhat nebulous term that the anti-gun crowd has latched onto and misused for years. It originates with the military as near as anyone can say with any modicum of certainty. The military, as any veteran can tell you, loves to “classify” things, and this term is one such example.

“Assault Rifle”
These are a military weapon, select fire, chambered in a “minor” rifle caliber, 5.56mm NATO in this case. All “Select Fire” refers to is the capability of the rifle to operate in either Semi-Automatic or Fully Automatic modes. Examples are the M-16, HK33 and the Israeli Galil. The AR-15 is not such a rifle.

“Battle Rifle”
Another military weapon, again capable of select fire, but, in a major caliber such as 7.62mm NATO (.308 Winchester to you “civies”) Examples of this class of weapons are the M-14, FN FAL, and the G-3. You will once again note the absence of the AR-15.

“Machine Guns”
These animals come in a few differing flavors.
First off we have the Sub-Machine Gun, these are Fully Automatic (Just pull the trigger and hang on son), pistol caliber weapons. Such as the UZI, H&K MP5, MAC-10 & 11 et cetera.

Weapons like the M-249, MK48, Stoner 63 and the M-60 are known as “Light” Machine Guns, chambered in 5.56mm and 7.62mm.

Atop the heap you find the Heavy Machine Guns, like the beloved “Ma Deuce” or properly the M2HB Browning .50 caliber. Nope, no AR-15s here either.

These military weapons are not readily available to the public at large, they are strictly regulated and ownership requires a lengthy and expensive permitting process, that’s in addition to the cost of the weapon itself. You could buy yourself a very nice automobile (think Porsche 911 Turbo or better), fully equipped, for what one of these would set you back. Briefly, you can only purchase one that is already in the BATFE’s registry, and that registry is closed, in otherwords what’s available is already out there and no more will be added.

We have let the anti gun crowd “set the terms” of this conversation for far too long. It’s time we “set the terms” and corrected their blatant propaganda with the facts, and correct nomenclature is the best starting point.


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    SCOOP –

    Now I know why you have the “whip” you have

    CHARGEr

    ****************************
    That is great info!

    ***************************
    One step further

    CLIP vs MAGAZINE


    • TexasPGRRider

      Most Xlnt. Info….Thanks Joe

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      LOL! Every time I hear the word “clip” in reference to a magazine, I think of a binder clip.

      • AnalyticalAnne

        Oooooh, you must be sexist….you said binder! 😉

        • PatrickHenrysBody

          LOL! I’d better watch out for the PC police then. 😛

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVCGRG62NAGQXJ6ZNE4JCTVVTU Ray

    You know when they try to outlaw something, ingenious Americans will find a way around it. I can’t wait for the innovation that the Government is making necessary!

    • sDee

      Like this……..

      Caleefornika requires the magazine release button to be removed from AR-15 lowers.

      It did not take long to work around that

      – but no worries I am sure a crazy mass murderer would abide by the law and not leave this on his AR-15.

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Yes, I’m sure a conscientious mass murderer would observe that particular law too. 😛

  • http://twitter.com/founding_ideals Founding Ideals

    Para Ordnance’s are now built in Pineville North Carolina and Para US is part of the Freedom Group. They build great 1911 with double stack magazines.

    The browing high power is a very old design, and Browning’s final pistol design. That sidearm has been in service since the mid 30s.

    @founding_ideals

    • KenInMontana

      I wasn’t aware of Para Ordinance’s move, owned a P-12 once, I have to say I was not impressed and traded it for a more traditional 1911 style sidearm.

      J.M. Browning’s designs are timeless and in the case of the 1911 and BHP (or P-35), if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

    • gunclinger

      The Hi-Power was the first handgun I ever bought.

      Still have it, and it’s run over 30,000 rounds since I got it.

      Only thing required so far was a new recoil spring at about 18,000 rounds.

      WONDERFUL gun.

  • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Stewie

    Awesome post! Answers in detail a whole bunch of questions I’ve had, but didn’t want to ask since there is so much mixed info.

    What’s the defining characteristic of a machine gun?

    • KenInMontana

      They are only capable of fully automatic fire.

      • TexasPGRRider

        Sorry Ken. Guess I missed another golden opportunity to keep my trap shut…I stand corrected…

        • KenInMontana

          No worries, stand up and speak up, never shut up. Because that’s what the left wants, is for us to shut up and be good little plebes.

          • TexasPGRRider

            Roger THAT !!!!!!!!!!

    • SineWaveII

      Technically it would be only capable of fully automatic fire and fires a rifle round or larger. (like a .50 cal). A sub-machine gun can only fire pistol rounds. And an Assault RIFLE (not “weapon”, “rifle”) can fire in auto or semi-auto and usually fires rifle rounds.

      • TexasPGRRider

        Sorry Sine. I thought the question was about concept rather than technical aspects… I stand corrected.

        • SineWaveII

          No problem :–)

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Sub-machine guns are usually carbines that are tooled to accept and fire pistol rounds. Most sub-machine guns are designed for two-handed operation and have longer barrels. A machine pistol is usually a firearm that is built from the design of a semi-auto pistol and is more compact and concealable than a sub-machine gun.

    • TexasPGRRider

      If you pull the trigger and hold it depressed, the weapon continues to fire until you either release the trigger or expend all ammo.

    • tinlizzieowner

      Ask the guys who served on Saipan or Okinawa in WW2. 😉

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Thank you Ken. I gotta say, I love your style! 😉 Excellent lesson. Thank you very much!

    • KenInMontana

      You are welcome, Ma’am.

  • unclesamnephew

    i will not allow people to use the term “assault weapon” while discussing guns. the gun in hands of conservatives are 99.999% defensive weapons. we are law abiding not thugs out to steal life, liberty, or the persuit of happiness from others, as libtards are so likely to do

    • SineWaveII

      Amen!

  • Huckley

    Now if you could just get the MSM to actually report on this great info.

    • DCGere

      I’m sure none of us here will be holding our breath on that!

  • Nukeman60

    Excellent, Ken. I’m glad you posted this. It’s about time we got the terms out there. The battle is just beginning and we need to be properly ‘armed’.

    I was going to add a video on the magazine/clip difference as well, but I see Joe already did that, so it’s not necessary (nice job, Joe).

    Keep up the great work, Ken. Your info is always welcome and much appreciated.

    • KenInMontana

      Thank you, Sir. 😉

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

        I apologize Ken –

        I though SCOOP put it up

        Very good info

        Maybe we can do a demo sometime

        • KenInMontana

          No worries Joe.

  • SineWaveII

    Amen! I have been warning people to learn to be concise with their terms and not fall in to the left’s trap of defining the terminology. I want to slap everyone whom I hear use the phrase “assault weapon” for example. I’m glad someone else gets it. Excellent Article.

  • TexasPGRRider

    OOOO RAAAA Scoop. A good primer is a great element in the pursuit of knowledge. The facts help defeat the “educated guess” syndrome. Thanks for providing this platform !!!

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      Seconded!

  • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Stewie

    This seems like a more fun thread……any chance you can come up with a favorite firearm poll? I have my eye on one of the sexy thangs you posted.

    • TexasPGRRider

      NO PROB Stewie: The Barrett M82 .50 cal gets my vote. Happy Day…Peace be with you.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I’m still having to get used to guns Stewie. Any one of these would be my weapon of choice should I ever afford it: http://www.barnettcrossbows.com/

  • DCGere

    Thanks for the info. In a conversation with a lib, she used “military assault weapon”. Told her my boyfriend in sandbox carries a knife – is that considered an assault weapon? Crickets…

  • aposematic

    Fired several of those weapns personnally but good refresher. Fired an M-60 machine gun till the barrel looked like a beam of light; could actually see the bullet fly through the barrel. At that point the gun was so hot it was firing itself. Don’t try that at home with any weapon. The last paragraph says it all; we have let the opposition “set the terms” of all debate. Worse, we accept those terms and then attempt to argue our way out of them. We loose before we even get started. Stop arguing against the lefts misnomers and straw men and argue for the truth.

    • clockwindingdown

      We should always ask leftist to explain what the term they are using means. This helps to put the conversation on terms all parties involved in the discussion understand. It is also the time to correct, and if possible use sources, any confusion in language and terms.

      It is common to find that many disagreements are due to lack of understanding the subject, wording, or language being used. Those whom work where technical terms or acronyms are common place realize this. When attempting to explain to those not familiar with industry terms the unfamiliar are frequently confused.

      It also will show to those in the know who hasn’t a clue of that which they are speaking. Which is very common problem when dealing with the left!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kendall.smith.927543 Kendall Smith

    Thanks for the info from a fellow Montanan! Great levity and good information for new and old shooters alike. Now, let’s take that info and change the argument out there.

  • sDee

    Good stuff Ken! – it is not easy to boil things down.

    I find that exposing ignorance of even the most fundamental attributes of firearms, is the single most effective start & end to gun ban discussions. Just stop the blabberer who is parroting what they heard on Good Morning America.

    – Ah, so you want to repeal the Second Amendment?
    – No? So, what exactly you mean by “those kinds of guns”?
    – What then is an assault rifle, do you think?
    – No, automatic weapons have never been used in these shootings and are already illegal for all practical purposes.
    – Oh, so it sounds like you want to take away semi-automatic weapons? That covers pretty much all modern weapons built in the last 100 years.
    – Do you know what a magazine is?
    – How do you think restricting the size of magazines available to people like me, would change anything a crazed mass killer would do?
    – What good is the right own a modern weapon if you cannot feed it with ammunition as designed?
    – So do you realize that you really do want to take away all of my guns and magazines – what gives you that right?
    – So, you really don’t believe in the Second Amendment do you? What do you feel about the First?
    – Have you ever fired a modern firearm?

    At which point I invite them down to range with me. If they decline I suggest they at least educate themselves before they allow their ignorance to let the government take away my Constitutional rights.

  • PatrickHenrysBody

    Very insightful and informative. We are not fooled! The anti-gun groups, leftist politicians, and the propagandist media arm of Zero like to define the narrative and regularly misuse terminology to further their agenda. They count on the uninformed and ignorant to whom they disseminate their lies and cleverly-worded idioms. Those are the same uninformed and ignorant that voted for Zero and the same ones who are now emotionally invested in the so-called “gun control” debate. They need to be educated. I have already had to smack down uneducated, uninformed lefty anti-gunners with the facts on various types of weaponry. Most of them back down and recognize they are in error. It’s only the too-far-gone, fanatical leftists who are blinded by their own hatred of conservatives and the plain truth that do not want to realize the absurdity of their statements and beliefs.

  • sjmom

    Thank you for posting this great information.

  • sleeper48

    This is great info for those who are not familiar with the nomenclature. It’s too bad liberals won’t read it.

    • tinlizzieowner

      Information like this is like Kryptonite was to Superman, for liberals. It takes the wind out of their (agenda driven) sails. 😉

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Nicely done! That’s a good reference to have bookmarked for our friends who need some ‘splainin.

    It was also cool to learn stuff I didn’t know yet.

  • TitaniumEagle

    This is an excellent reference, I just printed a copy and am going to make a few copies of it tomorrow to hand out to the erm…”lesser-informed” individuals that I know.

    • CitizenVetUSA

      Me too……..

  • tinlizzieowner

    “It is available in a wide variety of chamberings from .22 Long Rifle….”

    Somebody who knows what an AR-7 ‘hunting rifle’ is. :-)

    ‘The ArmaLite AR-7 Explorer, designed by M-16 inventor Eugene Stoner, is a semi-automatic .22 Long Rifle rifle developed from the AR-5 adopted by the U.S. Air Force as a pilot and aircrew survival weapon. Its intended markets today are backpackers and other recreational users as a take-down utility rifle. The AR-7 is often recommended by outdoor users of recreational vehicles (automobile, airplane or boat) who might have need for a weapon for foraging or defense in a wilderness emergency.’
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-7

    It’s not an ‘assault rifle’, it’s a hunting rifle but it is one of those (evil) “AR’s”. 😉 😉

    • TexasPGRRider

      A friend of mine had one in the 60s. It`s very light and compact. The butt pad pops off and the stock is compartmentalized to receive the barrel, trigger action, and magazine. I don`t remember if it has space for extra ammo or how many rounds the magazine would hold, but I do remember he had to check the nut that secured the barrel to the trigger action periodically to make sure it was tight. Plus, although we never tried it, he said it would float. (After all, it was designed for the USAF as a survival weapon). It is a sweet gun.

    • Dukehoopsfan

      I bought myself a great little “AR” style rifle chambered in .22 long. It is a blast (no pun intended) to shoot and given the cost of most ammo it is a cheap date.

      • tinlizzieowner

        Mine is an original Armalite. One of my other ex-military ‘Brothers’ have me a bunch of ‘options’ for it. I’m not going to go into detail except to say that I can fire something like 80 rounds before I have to reload a magazine. 😉 😉

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          You are one lucky B…. 😉

        • Dukehoopsfan

          I am a little envious. Mine is by Mossberg. One of my sons “pimped it out” for me and it is a fun little tack driver.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDJGRV2MMCB6P2ZYTUZW6BHFVA Richard

    We can all talk, but in the end Obama can dictate what he wishes. He has law enforcement and the military to back him. Where will his domestic military force come from?

    • Rshill7

      I think I know where his domestic opposition will come from.

      My best fishing bud who does a lot more hunting than I do and has two freezers full of fish, fowl, and deer, has been what I would consider apolitical until recently. Oh he votes Republican after having a little pow wow with us on all the other issues that might appear on a ballot but doesn’t really pay attention every day like we do at our house. He also has several kids under the age of 14.

      However, my phone rang last night just as I was about to answer the first Jeopardy question. It was he filling my ear for a little over an hour about Obama, the democrats, the media, his gun rights, and what he was going to do about it. I’ve never heard him rant like that. I was able to calm him down a little by going over what I felt were the most meddling of the new EO’s and that the serious 2nd amendment meddling was only yet being strongly suggested by Obama, that Congress pass, and that I didn’t think the kinds of limitations he wanted would make it through.

      Anyway, Obama and co’s actions and further desires by democrats are really starting to wake folks up who normally don’t pay attention to politics. But now that politics is stepping on the front porch of folks, indeed, reaching into their nightstands and gun safes…they are now awake, as if a rooster were doing his thing right in their ears.

      It’ll be very interesting as well as telling, how this debate works itself out. That sleeping giant Yamamoto referred to once upon a time, is opening his eyes, stretching his arms, and taking to his feet.

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        This is good news really. Not the interrupting Jeopardy bit, the other bit! 😉

        • Rshill7

          He got a small raise at the end of the 2012 too, but his actual check was even smaller after the raise because of the payroll tax increase.

          Not happy about that either :-)

          • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

            Didn’t the refer to Russia as the sleeping bear in ww2 when the Nazis woke it up and paid the price? I think America has a sleeping grizzly bear of it’s own… And it’s starting to grunt and moan and move… Almost like it’s about to wake up! And a pissed off, woken up bear! Oh boy! :-)

            • Rshill7

              I don’t know about any Russian references from he.

              • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

                Maybe I misunderstood your reply (My specialty!)… so…

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Bear

                There… I bet that made things worse! :-)

                • Rshill7

                  Watch “Tora! Tora! Tora!” some time. I saw it as a kid in a theater on a military base in the ’70’s. Admission was 25 cents.

                • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

                  Oh I’ve seen it! Brilliant movie! :-)

                  Saw it on TV thought, not in the movie hall. I don’t think I ever remember the charge being 1 quarter! I think I remember 1.25 (shrug)

                • CitizenVetUSA

                  1965-67 at North Fort Hood, 2nd Armored Division theater price was .25 cents

                • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

                  Very cool! :-) TY!

                  I have a famous poor memory and it’s not even funny anymore… So If I did not thank you for your service! I thank you now! THANK YOU SIR!

      • TexasPGRRider

        Great post Rshill7 ! I believe, after the end of WW2, one of the Japanese leaders was asked why they didn`t invade the continental US after Pearl Harbor and his reply was something to the effect that besides an army, the US citizens were also armed. That my friends, is the Very reason the globalists, UN Agenda 21 promoters, the muslim brotherhood, progressives, communists, BO and his ilk, and LORD KNOWS who else are on stand by. As far as I know, the only other country in the world with an armed citizenry is Switzerland !!! That`s why the right, NOT priviledge, to bear arms is essential to preserve this Great Nation INTACT for future generations. Tyranny cannot stand against truth. Peace be with you…….

        • Rshill7

          Thanks Tex.

    • TexasPGRRider

      TSA

  • americalsgt

    This was great information Ken and most helpful. Problem is that most of the people that need to read this won’t, and even if they did they’ve already made up their minds and the two words on the tip of their tongue for everything you wrote would be “yea but.” The whole semi vs auto to me comes down to accuracy. The first time I put my 16 on automatic in a real situation – some called it autagetem – I was all over the place. It was like the Oliver Stone movie line from JFK. Up and to the right, Up and to the right. You can do a lot more damage with semi in my opinion. I can understand some of the points the left are making, but I don’t want to give an inch. We give up magazine sizes, and the next time someone gets killed by a revolver, they will want them too. I can hear them now ” We’ve come for your .22 revolver sir” “Come along now, we can’t have out and about with this any longer.”

    • GWShrub

      As I was taking ownership of my new Mossberg 500 12ga short-barrel pump yesterday someone in the Outfitters store was talking about a relative who has a 9 rd .22 cal revolver & lives in NY state was concerned because the way that law was reading they thought it was banned.

      • americalsgt

        They probably are. Tell your relative that one possibility is a Baretta Bobcat, but be sure to get the .22LR instead of the .25ACP magazine. The .25 2acp has an 8 round magazine, and the .22LR is a 7. I’m waiting for my Mossberg to come in. I ordered the same one.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    Although this was an informative article, it will be meaningless to Obama, Biden, and the liberals in Congress. Don’t you get it yet? Their goal is complete gun control, to disarm us and to have us as defenseless as the people in Europe right now. And although the Europeans may look down their noses at us with contempt for demanding to hold onto our guns, we still have not managed a Hitler or a Mussolini or a Franco or a Stalin, yet. Hmmmm, I wonder why that is? Could it be because the American people would not stand for it and has the very real capacity to resist that? Just seems strange that all the examples of horrific dictators taking over a country occurred in places where people were NOT allowed to own many guns. “Funny” how that works out.

    • Biggbear52

      Which is why, if they use executive order, are facing IMPEACHMENT With any pray of true hope, closely followed by incarceration in Leavenworth for crimes against this Nation and it’s people!

    • tinlizzieowner

      Common sense is like deodorant, those who need it most (liberals) don’t use it.
      😉 😉

  • Biggbear52

    Good article and well written!

  • colliemum

    Great post, KenInMontana – thanks!

    Over here, I’ve started to ‘educate’ those who are talking about these assault unicorns rifles, and am demonstrating the difference between those pesky automatic and semi-automatic ones. and me never ever even having held a gun in my hands …

    That reminds me: gotta be careful what with pointing my hands in a gun-like fashion at people …. might go to prison … for threatening someone with my assault fingers ….

  • ManfredtheWonderDog

    You said, “the AR-15 a semiautomatic rifle, which means boys and girls, that she is only capable of spitting out one round at a time.” Ahem. I am not aware of any fire arm that fires more than one round at a time. Every machine gun – even the Gatling gun – only fire one round at a time. The distinction – as you noted elsewhere – is the number of rounds fired per trigger pull (or, for the Gatling gun, how long you turn the crank).

    Good article!

    • KenInMontana

      Allow me to introduce you to Metal Storm.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZSU2D67ODNZOKEZYHXONQ4F5Y John

    when senators have recently asked the FBI, ‘How are you complying with the Smith Amendment and how long are you keeping the names?’ they’re told to go take a long walk off a short pier. There is a danger that the Obama administration wants to create this gun registry using this universal check.
    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/obama-has-dramatically-overshot/#R8vz0Y1ARVehGS4z.99

    • Conniption Fitz

      The US needs a National (computerized) Voter Registry with Photo ID, not gun registry.

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        That would fix so many problems right there!

  • Conniption Fitz

    MORE STATS against gun control from a former DC Prosecutor:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324081704578235460300469292.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

    “The gun ban had an unintended effect: It emboldened criminals because they knew that law-abiding District residents were unarmed and powerless to defend themselves. Violent crime increased after the law was enacted, with homicides rising to 369 in 1988, from 188 in 1976 when the ban started. By 1993, annual homicides had reached 454.”

    Gun Control INCREASES Gun Violence and Deaths.

    This is a consistent fact in evidence.

    But that does not convince liberals who do not believe in facts, statistics or reality.

    They prefer their little PC world of wishes, feelings and fantasies.

  • bongobear

    Excellent explanation of the often misused terminology regarding firearms in general.

  • sDee
    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      Hey! C’mon! They’re trying to push an agenda here! Stop getting in the way with facts like that! It makes them look like desperate hypocritical liars! 😉

  • Pancake3

    No matter how wide or tall he is, Piers Morgan is a small man.

  • Joachim14_1a

    Thanks for this post! I am perhaps the only (like-minded) Scoop reader who is ignorant about guns. I feel like one of the virgins who neglected to bring oil for her lamp… the hour is late and for myself I can only hope that it is not too late…

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      You are NOT the only one Joachim. Several other people (who are gun owners) were asking for just such a post. :-)

    • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

      ignorant about yet not vindictive of and frightened of and vindictive of are two wholly different things.
      many second amendment supporters do not own or use weapons, they are fine too.
      no worries :)

  • Sober_Thinking

    Good article. Thanks!

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    An excellent article Ken, thank you for taking the time to write it! This is a MUST READ in my book. So I’ve saved it on my computer for future reference! Again, great job! I know I’m late to the party, but I still wanted you to know I really liked it!

  • MadAsHellJack

    OMG I have all those guns! :)

    Yeah go out there and buy ya some of those 50 rounds clips, y’all. The progressive/left are IDIOTS and it never shows more than when they discuss guns. I know, I know progressive/left and IDIOTS is a triple negative.

  • JungleCogs

    “We have let the anti gun crowd “set the terms” of this conversation for far too long. It’s time we “set the terms” and corrected their blatant propaganda with the facts, and correct nomenclature is the best starting point.”

    Here, here!!!

  • JungleCogs

    One quick point of order: We may be fighting ‘Progressives’, ‘Liberals’, ‘Lefties’, Socialists, ‘those who lean Left of center”, etc.; but they are all Democrats. If we are going to fight these Constitution hating types we have to quit parsing words and call them out for what they are. The Democrat Party has caused most of the ills in this country and continues to do so. We need to make that point at every opportunity.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      I think “libtards” covers the “all of the above” category nicely! 😉

  • c4pfan

    Why doesn’t the maker of the gun sue the people for making false claims?

  • 4Hoppes2

    From one Jarhead to another, that was Top Drawer, well done sir!

    • KenInMontana

      Thanks! Semper Fi!

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    control the language
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/the_assault_weapon_con.html

    on my board when anyone types assault rifle it displays rifle (one that scares people)

  • Larchmonter

    Would have liked it if the article had put the AK 47 into the mix.

    I bought one 20 years back when local governments started sticking their nose into our 2nd Amendment rights. Bought an SKS for the spouse. It was mostly a protest, along with joining a huge turnout at City Hall. When hundreds showed up for the protest, the subject was dropped by the officials. They left it up to the state.

    People have to use their rights to preserve their rights.

    Buy guns, and join NRA and other organizations that will fight every inch. The Bill of Rights is not a Bill of Licenses. Government does not get to slice and dice Freedom.

    Tyranny is always present. If you have government at any level, tyranny is always on the agenda. Crime, evil, tyranny are as natural as air and water. Free mankind has to be armed, stay vigilant and never give an inch.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      Well said!

    • DebbyX

      Like Mark Levin said, it’s the Bill of Rights
      not the Bill of Needs.
      (As in……….who needs an assault rifle)

  • tim trueblood

    An assault weapon is one that has a selector switch allowing it to fire semi or full automatic. An assault weapon is not defined by the number of rounds it’s clip or magazine can hold. Or by it’s appearance. As defined correctly, America does not have an assault weapon problem. The few held by private persons are fully registered and heavily taxed by the Federal Govt. This law is law that has worked and has fulfilled its mission of controlling the numbers of fully automatic weapons held by private citizens.

    For a history of the first “assault weapon” Google German word Sturmgewehr.

    An assault weapon must:

    It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
    It must be capable of selective fire;
    It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle
    Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
    And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet).

    Now, does American have an assault weapon problem?

  • CitizenVetUSA

    Very nicely stated. May I use your writing to help educate the civilian citizenry?

    I wish the FOX News team would quit using the lefts fabricated term, “Assault Weapon”. Maybe we need to get this document to the News Script Writers so they can start using the correct nomenclature.

    • KenInMontana

      Be my guest. Spread it about.

    • TexasPGRRider

      MOST XLNT IDEA !!!!!!!!

  • CitizenVetUSA

    A media battle is beginning and we need to educate the populace about weapons

    STEPHANIE CUTTER: Obama Will Activate Campaign Apparatus to Take On the NRA.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2013/01/17/cutter-obama-will-activate-campaign-apparatus-take-nra

  • barney59

    Thanks!

  • DeepintheHeart

    Thanks for that excellent explanation of terms. Now to get liberals to read it…

  • DebbyX

    “Firearms for Dummies”. I am strictly speaking for myself. Though I did know the difference between auto and semi-auto :)

    Hope to be starting shoot em’ up school next month. Looking forward to “carrying”.

 
 
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