NY Republican Senate votes in sweeping gun control legislation

Among other things including new handgun registration and an already binding assault weapons ban, the New York Republican Senate voted to ban semi-autos with one military style feature that have detachable clips (magazines?) and to limit magazines to 7 rounds. Wow, I hope law-abiding New Yorkers are good shots.

I’m sure Bloomberg is proud and I bet Piers Morgan feels safer already:

YAHOO NEWS – New York was poised on Tuesday to become the first state to approve broad gun control legislation since the Connecticut school massacre in December, including an expanded ban on assault weapons and limits on ammunition capacity.

The majority Republican state Senate voted 43-18 to advance a bill that Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo outlined on Monday following the deaths of 20 students and six adults in a shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in neighboring Connecticut.

The Senate “made a bold statement, coming together in a bipartisan, collaborative manner to meet the challenges that face our state and our nation, as we have seen far too many senseless acts of gun violence,” Cuomo said after the vote.

The state assembly, which is controlled by Democrats, was expected to take up the bill on Tuesday.

...The proposal tightens an assault weapons ban to include semiautomatic weapons with detachable clips that have one feature associated with military weapons.

The state currently bans assault weapons that have two military-style features.

The proposal also limits magazine capacity to no more than seven cartridges, and requires a statewide re-registration of all handguns and grandfathered-in assault weapons.


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  • Rshill7

    How will they “grandfather in “assault weapons”? What about the ones purchased from another individual with cash and no receipt 8 years ago?

    Well there you go. What’s a crook to do now? Oooh, I know, suicide vests!

    No problem, outlaw them too? Rhodes scholars, looking for innocent roadkill.

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      Senseless, pointless legislation. However, that is how the leftist global authoritarians in New York roll. So the criminals will just view the New York law (if signed into law) as another gun law to ignore. Now they will have the advantage in firepower. Again, effective weaponry will be taken out of the hands of law-abiding citizens while the criminals rejoice. Stupid, stupid politicians in and from New York.

  • bjohnson55

    Stupidity reigns supreme in New York. Crooks love it there.

    • Cops in a state of tyranny love gun bans. It allows them to act like criminals without any real backlash. Gangs, mobsters, and all kinds of criminals love it as well. All mass murderers love gun bans. It is just history being repeated.

  • Sandra123456

    Nothing here to prevent a school shooting. Appears to be another revenue raiser with re-licensing, etc.

    If you currently have magazines that can hold in excess of 7 rounds, must you turn them in?

    • M_J_S

      Answer: NEVER

      • Constance

        Correct. Never. Whatever I may or may not have, it remains with me. I’m sure that will be true of 99.9999% of current gun owners and their stockpile of ammunition. There will be a few loons who will turn in their stuff, thinking they will be raided in the dark of night and hauled off somewhere. Most people though, aren’t going to comply.

        • Those who do comply are the same ones who would willingly walk naked to a hole in the ground and get shot to death.

  • sDee

    This weapons ban got too hot too fast for Obama. The regime may put this agenda on the back burner and just let the states and his EO minions slowly erode our rights, for now. The article below talks about the Court picks and how crucial 2014 is.

    If anyone thinks that we have any conservative in DC who can derail this train might read the post from Ulsterman’s insider.

    Time has run out. The Republicans have sold out folks. It is up to us.

    Republican Insider: “John Brennan As Much An Architect of 9-11 As Osama Bin Laden

    Where is that Tea Party motivation from 2010? If conservatives don’t rise up again and take seats back in the Congress, then the chips will really start to fall around us. The word has gone out that every big issue is going to be in play in the coming months. Immigration, guns, taxes, spending, military budget, environmental regulations, all of it. The whole progressive globalist agenda is going to be pushed into the open and accelerated during Obama’s second term and the only thing standing in the way of that agenda being completed are the few remaining true conservatives in Congress. They want to destroy conservatives, and they’re doing it. Day by day.

    he ones who speak up are shut down and threatened. . I’m talking terrible kinds of threats too. Not just committee positions. Quality of life things. It’s gotten really strange and weird for some of us up here.

    ….I don’t have a clue how to fix it beyond praying the voters do the right thing in 2014. If (WHI) calls Eric Holder the Obama adminstration’s firewall, then how about the American people make 2014 the firewall for liberty and freedom for the country? Of course then I have to ask why should they? How can we trust the politician who calls themselves Republican or Conservative who then turns right around and joins up with the globalists in Congress and the White House?


    One of the commenters posted this link:
    Two Gunmakers Killed in Two Days – No Answers

    • Kelly60

      Yes, I read this yesterday. Remember, Valerie Jarrett indicated they were coming after people in the second term…this admin makes Hitler look like a child…

    • aposematic

      We are being ruled over by a rogue Government.

    • I watched a speech given by an Austrian who survived Hitler’s rule in the thirties. She painted a picture of experiences that mirror the political progression that is taking place in the US right now. It is no joke, and it is no accident. We had better get serious about a local political rebellion, and civil disobedience while we still can.

      • sDee

        I have commented here before what my father tried to tell a young, know-it-all 60’s hippie about how his country’s and village socialists proudly and smugly paved the way with open arms for its Nazi occupation.

        It is not DejaVu – all he described, the politicians, the useful idiots the professors, the churches, and the press – it is all playing out exactly before my eyes as he warned.

    • pdxlady

      I also read this on Ulsterman yesterday, and it took the starch right out of me. It was especially disheartening because this new ‘R.I.’ (Republican Insider) has been fairly upbeat and encouraging so far.

      This report made me feel like he has seen the enemy and it is us; in regard to all, except for a very few faithful Conservative R’s, of our elected officials.

      We are totally finished if we allow the status quo to continue, as not one thing will change. All of the R’s (and D’s) in Congress are only interested in staying in office. They have completely forgotten or care why they were sent to Congress in the first place. They will do nothing to ‘rock the boat’ and jeopardize their cushy jobs. We have NO leadership.

      Only We The People can shake this up and change it.

      To change the ‘status quo’ we must pick them off (remove them from office) one by one by sending Conservative candidates to oppose them in the primary’s. They need to be challenged…all of them. Then we absolutely must repudiate Karl Rove & Co., and NEVER allow the establishment to choose our candidates again.

      We have to band together locally, and then nationally. We do have the numbers to get this done.

      I’m too old to begin a political career. but I am doing whatever I can where I live. Volunteering for True the Vote, getting involved in Freedom Works groups.

      This Saturday, the 19th, there is a national Rally, “Guns Across America” Rally – Jan 19th at every state capitol building, at “High Noon.” Is anyone else going?

      Info: http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2013/01/guns-across-america-rallies-being.html

  • billgannon

    Dear god, why didn’t they just ask for one expended round, from all known firearms, too be used as an comparison, after a murder or shooting. Oh well the crime rate will continue as the only hand guns not re-registered will be the criminals.

    • sDee

      None of this is about crime, saving lives, making anything or anyone safer. This is about gun-control mandates, regulations, redtape and legislation that lead both directly and indirectly to the disarming of free men.

      Take a look at what Hussein Obama goes after in the next few months. Those are the things that stand between the globalists and the last truly free nation on earth. Those will be the things that remain protected only by the people – us. They will be the last firewall, that which our Founders knew could only be held by an armed citizenry.

      Everything else is a distraction.

      • pdxlady

        sDee, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. This is it exactly.

        Please read again and let it sink in.

        Thank you for so clearly and concisely saying it.

  • mikeinidaho

    New York republicans? No, those are Obama lovin’ scumbag leftist traitors who do what the Demunist Party tell them to do! New York is just another left-wing version of California. No surprise that they would vote to give away their Second Amendment rights.
    You got what you voted for New Yorkers, good luck!

    • Rshill7

      Conservative New Yorkers have no representation at all. They can either vote for democrats or democrats in disguise.

      Texans, scoot over and make room! If you have real estate to sell, try advertising it in the Fishwrap of Record.

      • Kelly60

        C’mon RShill, love to have you down here…I’m a Realtor and we’re busy!!!

        • Rshill7

          I graduated from HS there and attended my first two years of college in Arlington (UTA).

          We live in North Michigan currently. All three branches are controlled by Repubs since 2010. We’ll see what the next election holds. If it swings the other way though, we’re outta here.

    • physicsnut

      If you REALLY want to know what is going on. read Joyce Malcolm “Guns and Violence”. Chapter 5. What Cuomo and the rest are doing is right out of the Blackwell Committee of 1918, and its support in the House of Lords. Naturally they claimed that a huge crime wave existed. There was no crime wave. They said “if it saves one life”. All must keep records. It was now up to the Police who gets to have a gun.
      It was passed at 10:49 pm – at night, with a few minutes before adjourning. Only a handful were given the bill to read. (sound familiar). They claimed that you have elections and Parliament and courts, and thus NO NEED for weapons. Thus a RIGHT became a PRIVILIGE – at the WHIM of the Home Office and the police. Then the Home Office sent CLASSIFIED directives to police chiefs about who can have weapons. Are you getting the picture ?
      Actually, one reason they wanted the law was to deal with Labor unrest. It was also done INCREMENTALLY. First get the law. Then say it needs to be ‘improved’, until you get what you have today – you can’t even defend yourself in your own home. Whose side are they on, anyway ? And BOTH sides were doing it. On page 135: “The protection not of natural rights but of social and political ORDER – equated with the state itself – was elevated into law’s primary objective.”
      So. Everything these creeps are doing is Right Out Of the English Playbook. This is the socalled PROGRESSIVE agenda. You see it all over comments at Lib websites. The same arguments, the same rhetoric, the same propaganda, the same legal malarkey, and the same desire to DISARM the people. That is why they do not have any respect for the Constitution.
      My suggestion is that Nadler, Feinstein, Bloomberg, Silver and Cuomo all should be DEPORTED to England so they can live with the conseqences

      • sDee

        Excellent reference.

        If physics were taught to students as is politics, there would be every few years, a raging debate on whether Newton was a crazy old white racist, that the Universal Law of Gravitation be repealed and rewritten by themore enlightened of our new time, and that new taxes were needed to pay for it all.

  • Biggbear52

    This action is no where near being any sign of a REPUBLIC. It does however reek of every DICTATORIAL REGIME I have ever had the displeasure to hear of. This is so third Reich like that it is super scary. These stupid bastages are ordering us to NOT DEFEND ourselves. What kind of totalitarian mentality is afoot here?

    • sDee
      • Biggbear52

        It appears you are in agreement with my remarks. However it also appears that you have attempted to CHANGE my words. I do not believe I used the term “GLOBALIST PROGRESSIVE” This is because Political correctness has killed more people that all the wars combined this country has had. So having said that, you speak in your manor and shall in mine. Here’s the thing: I guarantee that my speech shall be better understood each time!

  • Biggbear52

    Hey brother Idahoian good to see ya’s here! 🙂

  • colliemum

    Just wondering how and why a seven-cartridge magazine is less deadly and less violent than one with 8 cartridges …

    • Constance

      Bingo. Think of all the low-information people out there who actually will believe this is some grand change that will save lives. They can’t think their way out of a box of shredded toilet paper.

      • aposematic

        Even if the Leftists wanted to think, which they obviously don’t, they would be too scared to even try. The real World is just too scary and they choose to remain within their bubble of ignorant bliss; the one place that arguably is the most dangerous place on Earth.

    • sDee

      Any distinction, no matter how arbitrary, is all they need. They just need to find some emotional point that the public is will to accept, as a vaild reason, giving the government sole discretionary right classify arms.

      Once the precedent is set and the public relinquishes its rights, they will use their discretion and intimidation at will.

      • colliemum

        With the next mass shooting – and there will be one, human nature being what it is – it’ll be down to three cartridge magazines, then to one bullet only, then to air rifles, locked away in gun clubs, just like here in the UK.

        It’s the well-known tactic of taking rights away incrementally, in tiny steps.
        A.k.a. ‘boiling frog syndrome’.

        • Rshill7

          Oh yeah, think of all the new Barney Fifes out there packing that deadly single bullet in their shirt pockets.

        • StrangernFiction

          And I’m starting to blister. But then my tolerance for tyranny is lower than most.

          • maingearinarkansas

            And I am burning with you, fellow Patriot.

        • Landscaper

          Come see me in South Carolina Mum, we shoot paint ball guns to warm up over coffee and then bring out the artillery at lunch. 🙂

          • colliemum

            Artillery – I love it! Horse-drawn artillery by any chance?

        • Lives4Freedom

          Yep, that’s exactly how they make it work, and how it has been successful in other countries. They manage to pass a control measure small enough that the citizen is unwilling to face fines or arrest for the ‘offense’.

          “Will I allow myself to get in trouble over 3 bullets? I will still have 7.”

          “Will I put my life on the line to defend my 25 round p-mags from confiscation?”

          People have to ask themselves where they are going to draw the line. We will see what Washington attempts, but I have seen how the people have already spoken.

    • Sandra123456

      Because you can only kill 7 people with a 7 round clip. That saves one person right there. And then if you replace 15 round clips with 7 round clips you save even more people.

      All gun owners are Dead-Eye Dans and always hit their target, never missing.

      Seriously this is just more BS from people that don’t know which end of a weapon the bullet comes out of. NYS is financially strapped. So this is another way to raise revenue. One provision of this new law they passed requires gun license renewals every 5 years. More Money, money, money.


      • colliemum

        Yes – the money-aspect (taxes, fines, regulatory fees etc) should not be overlooked. And let’s not forget that a tax once instituted will not be repealed, be the reason ever so arcane and hidden in the dust of history: government needs money, and fees and duties and fines are an elegant way of squeezing money out of citizens.

  • Constance

    So, the republicans in the majority did this? Gee, why aren’t I even the least bit surprised. I’m honestly not. That’s how terrible things are in this country, that a lifelong GOP supporter (until recently) doesn’t even flinch hearing that they overwhelmingly have infringed on the second amendment rights of their constituents. In fact, I would have been surprised if they had stood against this. We need that third party of conservatives, folks. I no longer believe that we can take over the GOP and make it us. Perhaps a few years ago, but not anymore.

    • aposematic

      The truth is most Blue States are corruption central on steroids requiring most NE R Pols to be even bigger liars than their D Pol counterparts. Worse, the NE carpetbaggers have already infiltrated most all of the large population centers of the South.

  • colliemum

    Lookit here:



  • c4pfan

    I’m telling you that the moderate GOP is no different than a Democrat.

    • aposematic

      Is the adjective really needed?

  • mjs_28s

    “The proposal tightens an assault weapons ban to include semiautomatic weapons with detachable clips that have one feature associated with military weapons.”

    • stage9

      What’s a “clip”? I’ve heard of something called “magazines”, but not “clips”.

      Oh well, the law doesn’t apply.

      • maingearinarkansas

        While no authority on origins of words, in this case I believe it to have come from pre-loaded devices in which the ammunition was attached to a “clip” for easy and rapid loading, such as with the M-1 Garand.

        I still prefer and use “magazine.”

        And the humor of your comment did not escape me. 🙂

    • Lives4Freedom

      One feature associated with military weapons…umm…they fire bullets. 😐

  • Just what the feck is a “Military style” feature….NY if you guys roll over and stand for this shite….you represent the worst this country can become by allowing this total militarised Police State to go on and on and on in your state…Stand up to these Elitist Tyrants and show some fecken backbone…Wake up !!

  • mjs_28s

    “The proposal tightens an assault weapons ban to include semiautomatic weapons with detachable clips that have one feature associated with military weapons.”

    Using that logic then nobody gets any weapon to defend themselves as there is not one thing that I can defend my home with that does not have atleast one feature associated with military weapons. Guns all fire a projectile of sorts, use a trigger, can fire in semi-automatic mode, single action or double action, sighting / aiming aids, some have long barrels for range or short barrels for close combat speed, on and on and on.

    “The proposal also limits magazine capacity to no more than seven cartridges” Does this include most pistols that hold more than 7 rounds?

    • sDee

      My Sig P250 is made of 3 parts which disassemble with one pin: The barrel/slide, the polymer frame, and the fire control assembly (FCA). In less than one minute I can change it from a 6rnd 45acp carry pistol, to a 17rnd full size 9mm. It is the FCA (about the size of a pack of gum) that has the serial number and is handled by the FFL holder.

      Gun technology is way ahead of them. But in one vote, the brute force of political power can disrupt decades of sophistication and advancement.

  • MadAsHellJack

    The only comment I have is COWARDLY & DISGUSTING !

  • Rshill7

    The House is reading the US Constitution on the chamber floor again.

    Hopefully they are reading it for comprehension this time.

    • colliemum

      Why don’t they vote anyway – they can see what they voted for after they’ve voted for it, no?

      • Rshill7

        In some cases, no, not even then. Take the Healthcare thing for example. Since it was signed by O’ there have been 17,000 pages of regulations attached to it by DHS.


        The 2014 midterms should look like a Democrat, RINO, piñata party.

        • colliemum

          Weeelll – they could get their henchpeople to read it for them, perhaps late at night, instead of sleeping pills.

          Btw – I am glad you underlined the should: it should look like that, but it won’t unless people start working right now.

    • stage9

      I didn’t know Congress could read.

      • Rshill7

        Never said they could 🙂

  • StrangernFiction

    It isn’t about R vs. D.

  • Landscaper

    Republicans my rear end. These are Democrats that put an [R] behind their name to get a seat at the table.
    I lived in Syracuse, NY in my teens, so what happened to that state?

    • Rshill7

      “Of Mice And Men”

      …minus the men…

      • Landscaper

        One of my favorites.

  • Kelly60

    Calling all “Red” New Yorkers….come on down to Texas!

    • stage9

      “red” being the operative word.

  • sjmom

    For me there is no surprise here. Its New York and as I have said many times there is little difference between northeastern Republicans and Democrats. They are usually moderate to liberal and agree more often with Democrats than conservatives; e.g. Chris Christie, Mitt Romney, Ann Coulter et al. They are the establishment, big money, country club and Wall Street people. You might find a fiscal conservative among them but they disdain the social conservatives like me. Red state country, I’m a comin”

  • standsomemore

    Still waiting for someone to come out and explain how this legislation, had it passed sooner (and in Connecticut) would have prevented the shooting there. [crickets]

    • Sandra123456

      Yeah, really.

    • keyesforpres

      It’s not about preventing a mass shooting…it’s about controling the people.

  • I live in the New York and we keep electing the same incompetent buffoons over and over. the school system is a mess with thieves stealing computers and other things from time to time. We should make a clean sweep and throw them all out including our arrogant mayor.

  • Nukeman60

    Oh, darn, I can only have a 7 cartridge magazine now – instead of a 14 cartridge one? Let’s see now – “click, drop, push”. That’s all it took to change mags. Let me do it again – “click, drop, push”. Just as fast as I can say it, I can do it – and with my eyes closed. How does that stop someone from shooting 14 rounds?

    I hope everyone that can will take the advice of Glenn Beck and move out of New York. With salt banned, 16 oz drinks banned, cigarettes at $12/pack, and most all guns banned, there is no reason to think that the idiots in New York won’t ban or tax anything and everything that moves.

    This is the same state where the people who were responsible for the release of that murderer who ambushed the firemen were all Republican. The name Republican in New York has no meaning. It is just a morphed form of Democrat.

    Hit New York where it hurts the most – in their tax base. Time to go.

  • aposematic

    NY Republican Senate; kind of says everything anyone should ever need to know about how/why the Republican Party has self destructed.

  • CO2isGood

    The New York Senate is controlled by Republicans and this still passed! I am sickened by my state and can’t wait to get out.

  • Sober_Thinking

    RINOs… they’re as bad as Democrats.

    This is what communism looks like.

    It’s amazing that people were already fleeing that state due to the some of the worst taxes in the nation… but now they have to deal with repressive laws from “Nanny Bloomberg” and now also, the most ridiculous laws against gun owners. This state typifies the typical liberal knee-jerk reaction. I expect them to become bankrupt very soon as the money-makers, the wide-awake population (conservatives), gun-owners, and jobs keep leaving this communist state. In turn… what a haven for criminals now.

    Pray for any sane people who are forced to live in that miserable black hole of sanity. (No, that’s not racist)

  • Ray

    I will shout it out again, Republicans ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS. They are a liberal Big Government party, Boener is a good example, he talks like a conservative but votes his liberal belief. Democrats take the black vote for granted and Republicans take the conservative vote for granted. Time for conservatives to start the TEA Party as a real political party.

    • stage9

      At least the northeastern white RINO aren’t (white as in “white flag”). It needs to become an endangered species. Liberals have infiltrated the Republican Party. They know to destroy America, you have to do it from the inside out.

      • Ray

        Actually, the republican party has historically been liberal eastern seaboard types, it was only a short stretch that conservatives were winning the Republican ticket, and the establishment republicans hated every minute of it.

  • I hope this sees a courtroom.

  • stage9

    New York is now officially a “safe-free zone”.

  • Just get out of NY, and let the libs and criminals battle it out. They have gone way too far.

  • stage9

    “LOSE” your guns before you lose your guns.

  • At a certain point, by limiting magazine capacity, they will be INDIRECTLY banning firearms since no handgun maker is going to make one version of a firearm for California (ie: 10 round limit), one version for New York (ie: 7 round limit), and one version for everyone else (ie: NO LIMIT). So what we’ll begin to see is the same thing we see in California, but to an even greater extent: limited firearms availability.

    There are only SOME firearms that we can buy in California, since the manufacturer does not make a version that does not restrict the possibility of inserting a larger capacity magazione. Thus, since it’s possible to defeat the magazine capacity regulation, those guns are BANNED in California.

    So now, how many firearm manufacturers do you think are going to continue to expand their product line to include THREE different versions of the same freakin’ gun??? THAT is the purpose of these magazine capacity limitations that they keep pushing…

    • stage9

      DING! DING! DING! you got it…

  • And none of these laws, NONE OF THEM, would have prevented or even interrupted, the mass killing in Connecticut. Always remember that the Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 people with only two handguns. If a nut wants to kill people, he will find a way to do it. All this will do is take more guns and ammunition away from law abiding citizens. I just don’t know why the people of New York would stand for it.

  • tinlizzieowner

    “NY Republican Senate votes in sweeping gun control legislation”.

    All the more reason not to live in NY. 😉

  • NJK

    They’re aware there’s a II Amendment in this country, that trumps this, aren’t they? Are the criminals aware of this, and will they be abiding by it now? What schmucks live in NY.

    • stage9

      What do you expect from a bunch of people who can’t distinguish between a male and a female?

  • peacemaker442

    Obama? are you illiterate?

    The republicans just passed a law to take our guns.

    All I have to say is come and get it.

  • peacemaker442

    are you illiterate?
    the republicans just passed a law that allows them to take our guns.
    come get it.

  • keyesforpres

    This is unconstitutional and New Yorkers should not comply.

  • maingearinarkansas

    So much for government of, for, and by the people.