Obama demands debt ceiling be part of deal, says he’s not playing the ‘negotiating’ game anymore

I hear more from Obama about what he wants that what he’s willing to concede. First it’s an increase in tax rates and now it’s an increase in the debt ceiling:

BUSINESS INSIDER – In “off-the-cuff” remarks at the Business Roundtable in Washington, D.C, today, President Barack Obama was firm in a stance that he would not be “playing that game” of negotiating the raising of the debt ceiling. He said a rise in the debt ceiling would have to be a part of a deal to avert the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

Obama quoted John Engler, the president of the Business Roundtable, who charged that it’s “not a good weapon for anything except destroying our own credit rating.”

“We are not going to play that game again this year,” he said. “… We’ve got to break that habit before it starts.”


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  • Joe

    The KING has spoken!

    Arrogant [email protected]!

    This is Boehner’s fault – Start IMPEACHMENT NOW!

    • Haywoodjbl

      Exactly what he is……

    • Jazzee

      excellent post JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! boehner needs to go he thinks he is a king like obama

      • agas84363

        for sure boehner needs to go….how bout gettin gingrich back!

  • MiketheMarine

    Since when has the @$$hat EVER negotiated.

    • Betsey_Ross

      He never has. He just goes in there and demands things and expects people to bow to him. Shut the government down. Walk away. He’s like a spoiled toddler. You can’t reason with him. The only thing that anyone can do is let him have his temper tantrum and don’t watch him. Close the door until he wears himself out. He won’t be any better, either. This is what we have elected. A spoiled child.

      • las1

        It’s actually worse than that… something more evil.

        Sam Vaknin on Obama’s psycho-pathological narcissism. At first I thought it was just pathological… but it’s one step up into psycho-pathological.

        Part 1

        Part 2

        Just ignore that it’s from LaRouchePac. The interview, although rather long, is riveting. Vaknin is “bang-on” in defining every action and reaction of Obama, and even what the future may hold if Obama retains his position.

      • tvlgds

        Yet, he and his family are ready to embark on a multimillion dollar 3 wk vacation at OUR expense. Mooschelle alone, has already spent nearly a BILLION on her vacations in the past 4 yrs. That would take a huge chunk out of our deficit.

      • BHliberty

        I say take his “Air Force One” away from him! I mean don’t parents take cell-phones away when they misbehave?

      • warpmine

        I really object to you using the term”elected” when I know very well, he stole the election via fraud.

    • johnos2112

      You know Mike I can see this happening and I pray it does not. DC under siege! Tell me I am wrong!

      • MiketheMarine

        You are not wrong. I think search and destroy politician teams may have to be deployed.

  • Arrrggghhh

    Having to at least negotiate burying our children with a mountain of debt is a game? His solution is to give him a blank check?

    • mike3e4r7

      This guy is the most arrogant @*%!$#% I’ve ever seen!! Arrrrgggghhhhhhhh!!!

  • sDee

    So now the law and the people’s representation is just a game? No budget. No lawful representation. This is rule by fiat, manipulated by the press.

    The press controls the narrative as laid out by the regime. The elephants do not have chance.

    Pass a budget if he sends it. Refuse to raise the debt ceiling. Go home.

  • marketcomp

    Ok if you want unchecked control of the credit card then in the negoitaitons the republicans cut the spending according to the incease in spending. So that means no more money to your cronies or increase in social welfare spending and cut every department and agency by 40%! NOW, take that!

  • Wow, all I can say is, Wow. I can’t think of anybody in Congress, espcially in the House, that would give this power to a president, any president, especially since Congress has “The Power of the Purse,” NOT the president. These negotiations are going nowhere if Obama really believes he’s entitled to this power. He is NOT a king, a dictator, or a ruler in any sense of the word. Spending money, no matter how much of it the country wants to spend, starts in Congress, NOT the White House. This point should be non-negotiable with everybody in Congress. It’s about time the people in Congress start going on TV and simply hold up and start reading a copy of the Constitution. Maybe Obama would learn something from that.

    • sjmom

      I can because Boehner is well on his way to giving Obama whatever he wants.

      • tvlgds

        Boner has GOT to go. I can’t believe the Republicans voted him back in as speaker. He has the spine of an amoeba and darn sure does nothing to help the people.

  • poljunkie

    Lets me real. Obama was never interested in neogiating. Its always his way – or he takes his toys and goes in the next room and sends out Axelrod, or Clinton(Bill), or all of MSNBC or your liberal relative to run his talking point into the ground.

    I’m damn tired of it…and he hasnt even had his Presidential ball yet. Oh geez.

  • BHliberty

    Oh the webs that get woven and how interesting just 6 yrs ago a little, junior senator from Chicago makes comments that he totally contradicts today! Hmm……:

    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.

    Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.”

    You can read the rest Here:


    Yes, Barack Obama, you’re chickens have come home to roost!

  • Dukehoopsfan

    I am typically an optimist but in this situation I have no faith that the Rs will do anything except cave to the emperor. Hopefully they will prove me wrong. Boehner is a modern day Benedict Arnold. I would love to see the party rebel against his ineptitude.

  • mike3e4r7

    We are Americans, not some Banana Republic! Will this tyrant ever get what he deserves?

  • Obama: KISS MY TEXAS-SOUTHERN GUN-TOTIN’, BIBLE LOVIN’ @SS!! (pardon my french)

    If I was Boehner (shudder), I would drop everything I was doing at head out the door. I wouldn’t give two cents or the time of day to this scumbag who hasn’t negotiated once in his lifetime, while the republicans made deal after deal (even hurting our conservative values for this prick) all to get it shut down.
    Want to plummet over the cliff, have at it! Congratulations, you moron, you get NOTHIN’ now!

    • sjmom

      Go Texas!

  • detectivedick

    A ceiling and a cliff…..hummm, you can’t have them both. Why not eliminate all tax collections and stand at the cliff and look at the ceiling?
    I think it is called insanity

  • Bye Bye Republic! Hello Dictatorship!

    All Hail the Messiah, NObama! NObama!!!

    • Over one dead duckie’s body. We’re NOT there yet Wolfie. God help us, we’re not going to let them do this.

      • sjmom

        I hear the rumbling of revolution throughout the land.

        • stevenbiot

          Thomas Jefferson brilliantly stated, ” The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

      • I’m with you Duckie… So long as there is a beat in my heart… I will fight!

        • That’s my fierce fighting Wolfie! You know we’ve got the best with us! xoxo

    • pmb88

      I’d say this is more appropriate.

  • Watchman74

    But he will continue to play the “blame” game.

  • Yazz55

    Obama’s just jealous that Morsi was able to declare himself Pharaoh of Egypt after only being in office a few mos. So, Obama’s got a lot of catchin’ up to do. And this demand for a blank check from the US taxpayer is only a teeny weeny step in that direction.

  • He’s got flexibility for Medvedev and Putin, but not with the republicans. Dear leader has become what I crowned him 4 years ago. dam

    • stevenbiot

      Best case scenario – he’s gone, if the adulterated Constitution isn’t rewritten, in four years.

  • stevenbiot

    He’s gonna play the game until he cuts entitlement spending. Presidents don’t give ultimatums in this country!

  • sjmom

    If it wasn’t for your spending fool there would be no reason to raise the debt ceiling. Repent of your ways and cut spending!

  • tvlgds

    He’ll just sign an executive order and bypass congress like he always does.

    • denbren52

      I know you’re right and I know that the House will do nothing about it when he does. Can we taxpayers petition the Supreme Court directly over separation of powers?

      • tvlgds

        Good question and I don’t know the answer. If we can, we’d better do it quickly before the SC is padded with more socialist women!

  • bongobear

    It’s not a game…it’s our future and these people ought to begin acting like grown-ups.

    • stage9

      marxists don’t care about your future.

      • bongobear

        I know you are correct.

  • stage9

    The Führer is done negotiating.

  • denbren52

    If I were a betting man, I’d go “all in” on Boehner giving the King everything he wants, including a big fat juicy smooch on his bare @$$.

    The good news is that, when he does, it will hasten the formation of the new conservative party that will replace the GOP in 2014.

  • TimeForAnarchy

    When did he start “playing the game?”

    • stevenbiot

      I believe after the Aspen, Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard vacations.

      • TimeForAnarchy


  • He want’s a blank check-GOP stand your ground say NO.

  • Conservator1

    If members of the GOP in Congress cave on these issues, I will never vote FOR REPUBLICAN again. It’s time to call the messianic narcissist’s bluff on both issues; increasing tax rates and the debt ceiling.

    Leftist Democrats at the White House and in Congress believe they have a better hand in negotiating these issues with Republicans. In fact, they are willing to let the nation go over the ‘fiscal cliff’ so in January they can resubmit a tax cut for those earning under $250,000 and dare Republicans not to vote for it.

    It’s time to call the petulant kid’s demand NOW. Let Obama and Democrats lead Americans through the horrors that sequestration will bring to our nation. Then Republicans should DEMAND Obama and Democrats to restore all tax cuts or there will be NO INCREASE TO FEDERAL DEBT LIMIT in 2013.

    What will Obama and Democrats do when there’s no money for them to waste on growing the government while destroying America’s economy? IMO, Obama and Democrats are punks that will cave to Republican demands after sequestration when the 50% of Americans who pay no federal income tax get hit with a huge tax increase.

  • stage9

    Apparently Rubio and Paul are trying to form an alliance for a 2016 run, but I’ll call it now, if they don’t include faith as part of their platform, if it’s all about money, money, money, then you can count me out…AGAIN! I will NOT follow this GOP train wreck any longer down a path of greed and apostasy.


    • BOPOS

      So you let BO win. What a shame.

    • stevenbiot

      If Ryan agrees with Obama’s tax increases, I will turn my back on him as well.

    • stevenbiot

      Money is extremely powerful, Stage 9. I want the entire focus of the government to revolve around spending less of it.


    The only habit needing to be broken at this time is YOU BO. The wind is blowing.

  • pmb88

    He calls it negotiating and i call it campaigning.

  • mikeinidaho

    Knew that would happen, didn’t you? Give that communist an inch and he’ll take a mile.
    What’s really sad is that the eunuch Boehner will most likely cave on this, too. A pox on both parties and all of DC! Let’s watch it go over the cliff and hunker down until the crash bottoms out. Then we can work to restore the Republic, once the leftist morons are gone because they thought that Obama would bail them out.

  • colliemum

    From the link: “This morning, the U.S. Treasury outlined the so-called “McConnell Provision,” which would change the debt ceiling not into something that has to be raised, but something that has to be voted against. Under the proposal, the debt ceiling would automatically rise unless Congress voted against it.”

    That is so utterly insane, it is beyond belief.
    The POS says he doesn’t want to play games any more – this is not a game, this is about the future of the country and its future generations.

    I’m going way out on a limb here – but it looks to me as if the POS, that woman on the Detroit council, all the way down to the Obamaphone woman and her tribe, think that money is to be had at the snip of their fingers, with the small difference that the POS can print his money until the cows come home.
    I wonder if there’s a genetic defect in them all which makes them incapable of understanding that there’s no money tree and that money doesn’t come out of a tap. There’s a deep-seated irresponsibility here, and an unwillingness to work and make do.

  • Myptofvu

    1. Make NO deal and go off the cliff because it will be the only way you will ever get any kind of spending cuts out of this admin.

    2. We will be back in a recession whether or not a deal is reached. The recovery was fake and that is now beginning to unwind so don’t let the fear of another recession scare you into a deal we are already 1/3 of the way into a new recession.

    3. The downgrade happened because of not addressing entitlement spending NOT the debt ceiling as Obama is claiming, the sequestration helps in this area.

    4. The GOP has clearly shown that they can not be trusted and new candidates should run on a different ticket.

    5. There is little sense in trying to take back America at this point as it can not be done. You will not be able to win over enough people to win a Presidential election. You are trying to rationalize with people who cannot even understand that if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns. Trying to win them over on more complicated issues like Capitalism or economic reform is an exercise in futility.

    6. Concentrate your efforts at the local levels. Try to make sure you have a good Mayor, Police Chief etc and then a good Governor, Lt Gov. etc. so that your own neighborhoods can ride out the dark days ahead as best as possible.

    7. Urge your children to learn Mandarin as Asia will be the land of opportunity for the next several decades. There are a number of reasons for this but the most ironic is that they are the last place on Earth that still employs any real measure of Capitalism.

  • americalsgt

    By throwing out a demand for a blank check on the debt ceiling, Obama simply makes giving in on the rest of his tax and no cut agenda seem palatable. The concession then will simply be his taking the blank check off the table in return for everything else.

  • marketcomp

    Ok let’s think about the moves made by Boehner in the last few days? After the election he goes on all the LSM shows with Diane Sawyer and others saying the President won and Obama care is the law of the land. He goes on with Chris Wallace telling him that we will work this out and avoid the fiscal cliff. Signaling to Obama that he will get what he wants just let me remove some thrones in my side. He removes the conservatives from the committees. Next, he makes an offer to Obama for $800B in tax increases or revenues or what lingo that use to spin this. Obama rejects but he knows he will get what he wants because he is a convicted Marxist and his ideology will trump anything non-ideology that Boehner has. Boehner gives a press conference saying some gibberish about the negotiations but no one is listening because we know he is lying at this point and no one can even bare to look at the clown Boehner. So now we wait for Boehner to concede because looking at the litany of moves everything points to capitulation! SIMPLE and NOT complicated!

  • Sober_Thinking

    Better give it to him… pretty boy might have a temper tantrum.

    He’s the worst President in the history of this country. There’s not a single good quality about this man/child poser. What a disgrace he is.

  • semby

    You are the one who is playing a game. You don’t want to negotiate then why did you run for re-election. No President has disgraced his office more than you.

  • Susitna

    Recount, impeachment or military coup! It is impossible to negotiate with the enemy no. 1 of the U.S.A.

  • trouble06

    I’m convinced Obama has something on Boehner or he just likes kissing Obama’s backside.

  • tinlizzieowner

    I hear more from Obama about what he wants that what he’s willing to concede. First it’s an increase in tax rates and now it’s an increase in the debt ceiling:

    We’re talking about this Obama, right?

    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ‘s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance
    our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America ‘s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

    – Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
    Situational Hypocrite Bast*rd.

    • Suzyqpie

      It’s on youtube, I saw it. That was all before racism was discovered. That cut is irrelevant now, but thanks for introducing facts, facts are fun and entertaining. Perhaps, facts will become relevant again someday.

      • tinlizzieowner

        Senator Obama or President Obama. Will the real Barack Obama please stand up. Never mind, I think we know by now. 🙁

  • eyewatcher1960

    Is this really any surprise? Have it ur way, Czar Obama. Also go ahead and pay off all of the student loans ….although it isn’t fair because I actually had to get a job and pay MINE back. Can I be compensated?

  • hbnolikeee

    Not playing the negotiating game you say? So quit. Politicians negotiate.

  • Diogenes_wy

    Giving this idiot control of the debt ceiling would be like giving a loaded gun to a 5 year old.

  • agas84363

    when you spend more than you make you ruin your credit……hard to figure out obama?….that little thing called the constitution in your way obama?…this guy must be held in check!!!!!

  • jimmie smith

    Congress is not going to relinquish the purse strings, pure and simple. That’s the only bargaining chip they have left. So this will be interesting to see what will transpire…