Petraeus Hearing: Original Benghazi talking points edited to remove Al-Qaeda involvement

Petraeus admitted this morning that the original CIA talking points had been edited by the time they got to Ambassador Susan Rice and he’s not sure who did. But the part about Al-Qaeda was removed, according to King, and replaced with vague indications of extremism. Petraeus also admitted that his agency suspected immediately that Al-Qaeda was involved:

FOX NEWS – Former CIA Director David Petraeus testified in a closed-door hearing Friday morning that his agency determined immediately after the Sept. 11 Libya attack that “Al Qaeda involvement” was suspected — but the line was taken out in the final version circulated to administration officials, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who spoke to reporters after Petraeus testified before the House Intelligence Committee, indicated he and other lawmakers still have plenty of questions about the aftermath of the attack.

“No one knows yet exactly who came up with the final version of the talking points,” he said. …

Petraeus’ testimony both challenges the Obama administration’s repeated claims that the attack was a “spontaneous” protest over an anti-Islam video, and according to King conflicts with his own briefing to lawmakers on Sept. 14. Sources have said Petraeus, in that briefing, also described the attack as a protest that spun out of control.

“His testimony today was that from the start, he had told us that this was a terrorist attack,” King said, adding that he told Petraeus he had a “different recollection.” …

“The original talking points were much more specific about Al Qaeda involvement. And yet the final ones just said indications of extremists,” King said, adding that the final version was the product of a vague “inter-agency process.”

Further, King said a CIA analyst specifically told lawmakers that the Al Qaeda affiliates line “was taken out.”


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  • Rocco11

    Start the impeachment proceedings.

    • Sure, because the words “President Joe Biden” sound so darn appealing….

      • Sandra123456

        Yes. At least we know he is American born.

        • LiveFreeOrDie2012

          Don’t turn this serious thread into a buffoonish thread for the goons. Go elsewhere with that crap!

      • ssenecal5000

        A difference between a traffic acciden and a traffic jam

      • Don

        Exactly Kimberly. A person would have to be completely insane to impeach Obama with an illiterate like Biden waiting in the wings. I am sure that had something to do with selecting an obvious bozo like Biden in the first place.

        • FreeManWalking

          I don’t think there is a conservative alive that wouldn’t take 0biden over 0b0, knowing that what 0b0 is doing, he is doing on purpose to destroy the USA.

          • Sober_Thinking

            Spot on brother.

          • I agree with this. Biden would not be able to get that sort of agenda passed because he is white. Nobody will stand up to Obama because he/she doesn’t want to be called racist. Give me Biden all day long over the lying corruption that is Hussein Obama

        • Sober_Thinking

          I’d take Biden in a second. Biden is a boob… Obama is a terrorist and a traitor.

          • FreeManWalking

            Dittos ST Dittos, you described him better.

      • I think I’d rather have Biden then NObama for the next 4 years! Biden is a bumbling idiot, not a sneaky viper snake with a plan to destroy all we hold dear and love about this nation!

      • cathmom

        Much as I despise Biden he is an American, and he does not hate America….he’s just dumb. We can handle dumb.

      • 1endtimes2020

        We DON’T want the devil we know. Better a whole new voting, now that the cat is out of the bag, and we now have informed voters.

      • XXIIFan

        Joe is a buffoon but I don’t think he has a basic hatred for our country or the evil intent of our recently re-elected ruler.

      • pdxlady

        I say that the whole criminal empire goes down together! Course, that’s just what I say…

        • You’re not alone in that wish/hope pdxlady, that’s for sure.

    • Kelly60

      As much as I love your comment…ain’t gonna happen.

  • hbnolikeee

    The question to ask after it was stated that the reality of the situation was altered is “WHY and by WHOM?”.

    • Don

      That is the what this hearing should be about. WHY and by WHOM? If this is never known, then this is a cover-up at the highest levels. If Obama refuses to make it public, then he should never be trusted again. Lives were lost and lies were told. Obama’s ability to exploit the American ignorance is almost hypnotic.

      • 1endtimes2020

        That’s right—LIVES were lost—not just Ambassador Stevens.

        Let the second voting begin.

      • Who cares why? It doesn’t matter why. Let’s just get to the WHOM.

  • las1

    But it’s racism …doncha know?

    After all, Chris Matthews had Jim Clyburn on to set us all straight… and according to Matthews, Rice is just a poor lowly “civil servant”

    … complete with the obligatory “blame Bush” tie in at the end.

    Nothing ever changes… even when their man/boy has reign for another four years (measured in dog years of course)…. sheesh

    • sjmom

      They can’t protect Obama forever; the truth is crying out to be heard.

  • Well, at least now it’s confirmed that the Susan Rice’s video story came out of the White House. Now we need to know who “edited” the CIA’s talking points at the White House. Slowly, slowly, we’re getting closer to the truth.

    • cain999

      Valerie Jarrett!

  • How long until the whole rotten regime falls?
    3 words for you. Impeachment… Orange jump suit and Hard Time!

    My counting skills are just as good at Biden’s eh? 🙂

    • sjmom

      Better than Biden’s because you’re honest.

      • I like to think I am anyway. 🙂

        • Pickupdriver

          I will be praying for impeachment…why does something nag at me, however, that this administration is going to deflect this and come out squeaky clean…

          • Maybe it’s the thought that the MSM is in the tank for NOBama so deep they lie for him and cover for him…

            Or… The fact the the Republicans are running scared and refusing to challenge his agenda or his stealing of the election.

            • Pickupdriver

              I so wish the Republicans would stand up for a National recount…you are right – they are running scared.

              • Cowards the lot of them. Scared of being called racists for standing up to the boy king. Not holding him or Rice to the same standards as a white politician IS racism but his cult is too dense to figure this out.

    • kong1967

      I don’t believe Obama will fall. Boehner is weak and won’t push for impeachment. Even if Obama was impeached in Congress it would never get past the Senate even if Obama pulled an O.J. on live t.v.

  • bjohnson55

    I would suspect that most of the people in the US were born at night but I would also suspect most were not born just last night. Who the hell else besides the Whitehouse has the authority to “edit” something coming from the CIA??? If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck then I suppose it is George Bush’s fault.

  • E. Lee Zimmerman

    Great posting. Before this is all over, Showbama will be blaming Bush.

    • sjmom

      I hope W can prove where he was Sept 11, 2012. LOL

  • Howzah123

    So he lied on September 13th?

    I thought it was a video David

    • Rshill7



    …don’t you all know it’s BUSH’S FAULT .”

    “Tell me LIES tell me sweet little LIES … song by Fleetwood Mac , Obama’s theme song !”

  • These hearings should be open and broadcast on Cspan. Any “secret” info such as sensitive names could be written down and handed to the questioner. It would be informative to watch their body language when they are speaking.

  • mikeinidaho

    Glad he straightened that out. now we need to know to whom the original (and later changed) CIA report was given. Then bring that individual in and find out what the report they received said and what the report they passed on said and to whom they passed it on. Just follow the report until we find out who changed it and why. We also need to know who refused to provide military support to during the attack. Again, follow the notifications until we get to the individual who ultimately failed to provide assistance to the ambassador and why they failed to do so.

  • sjmom

    God bless David Petraeus for having the courage to tell the truth.

    However, we are back to square one because WHO made the decision to change the talking points? It had to come from the WH but can we get someone to finger Obama because that is what we need and if not Obama then who?

    One way or the other it goes back to the president; either he called it himself or as my husband theorizes it was someone else because Obama is the dufus while others are running the show. Inquiring minds want to know and the American people deserve to know.

    Let the chips fall where they may as long as the truth is exposed.

  • justrighton

    This is a general representing my country? I have to say that if it was Patton sitting in that chair being questioned do you think he would be so meek and self serving? Do you think he would be covering O’s butt? I THINK NOT! These generals of today’s armed forces are all “yes sir buddies” and that is how they got their stars. No real leadership here. Just my .02.

    • sjmom

      I think this is Petraeus’ way of exposing Obama. He did his county a great service on his way out.

  • NObama lied – Americans Died! – Nobama keeps on lying! Impeach! NOW!

  • Godsavemycountry

    Let’s get to the big question: Who ordered the military to stand down?? That’s really the most important thing. Everyone is engaging in CYA about talking points, but who gave the STAND DOWN order??

    We’re getting mired down in red herring stuff. Who gave the stand down order that would have condemned 20 or 30 morre American lives if it weren’t for the Navy Seals who blew off the stand down order? Was it Panetta? Obama? Valerie Jarrett? Hillary? And WHY??
    Why would they sacrifice American lives when they could have been saved???

  • virginiagentleman1

    Trust is no longer a word that can be used to describe our relationship with government, its intellegence services, (oxymoron?) Congress-both chambers, and the president and his cabinet.

    When a once honorable man like Petraeous can be compelled to dishonor his Constitutional oath in favor of protecting a dishonorable president and admin, where do we go for truth? Justice? Think Eric Holder, and you can see there will be no justice.

    What avenues are left to us? Where do we seek redress? The Scotus? Not after their betrayal of the American Citizen with their decision on Obamacare.
    Congress? They only want your donations to their re-elections, and ever higher taxes to support them in their drive to finally set government OVER the citizen, rather then SERVE the citizen.

    How about the Armed Forces of the United States? I wonder what they think of their senior commanders compromising that most sacred of oaths, the oath of fealty to Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States?

    Obama, Soros, and their band of marxists have turned the very institutions that the Founders wanted for the Nation and her citizens protection, into something not recognizable as an American government serving her citizens. Instead we are on the swords razor edge of dictatorship.

    Like most here, I held General Petraeous in high esteem for his proven battlefield leadership and battlefield successes.
    Then he went into the sewer of DC, and just like so very many, was corrupted by that poisionus atmosphere. Now he is trying to reclaim his honor by speaking what we are led to believe will be the truth before Congress.

    Sadly for him, regardless of what he has to say, he will never be fully trusted again, and as a miliary men, he should know that a warriors honor, once lost, can never be recovered.

    • poljunkie

      Key word, VG: “held”

      The General has fallen. Aside from the cheating, which, part of a long time married couple I take exception to- I am truly saddened by his lack of respect for the oath he took.

      As you stated he proved him self on the battlefied- only to come back, and disappoint us all greatly. He had the opportunity to expose the Benghazi attack for what it was, but he sat by idly and let the administration spin it.

      We can harken back to the second debate where many CNN viewers were again mis-informed, but still, the General let the Presidents facts linger- and essentially Romney twist in the wind.

      • virginiagentleman1

        Milady, We, the People and Citizens of the United States, have very little voice in our own government, nor are there many politicians who will lend us their ear. They are deaf and blind to our condition.

        When politicians, and some of our most decorated military leaders, can turn their backs on their sacred oaths of office, and compromise their honor in favor of politics and political favor;
        I submit to you, milady, that we no longer have a representative form of government.

        • poljunkie

          I can let myself feel very dejected.

        • Ahhh but the Framers of our Constitution provided us with a way to renew our representative government should the situation arise.

          • virginiagentleman1

            Indeed they did, milady. The Second Amendment was designed for times such as these.
            Are you an advocate of a Second Amendment redress?

  • poljunkie

    ….And it was just yesterday that the Obama admin was still pimping, errr I mean promoting Susan Rice for Secretary of State? Heaven help us.

    • virginiagentleman1

      You had it right the first time, pimping. With the people we have in government, well, why would Heaven want to help a nation that is heading straight to Hell? Just askin’.

  • poljunkie

    Why wasnt General Petraeus saying this….oh, I dont know- back in, Sept? October? Hey, even the days right before the election?

    Thanks for nothing David. Aside from cheating….he let this go.

  • Rocco11

    It might have been nice if Petraeus were enough of a Patriot to come out with this before the re-election of a communist.

    • poljunkie

      My sentiments exactly.

  • Chevypowered

    I know the idea of impeachment is cool, but what would be better if the GOP had any real stones they would tell Obama if you want to keep this job and not go out in disgrace you are going to do thing our way! Kind of like you are doing now except you will be our puppet.

    It’s not blackmail it’s “revenge! “

    • FreeManWalking

      As long as Reid holds the power of the senate 0b0 will never be removed from office even if the house impeaches.

  • Haywoodjbl

    It is to bad that with the current make up in the Senate that we could never get this President impeached…..not like Clinton ….but really impeached and thrown out……ala Nixon style where he knew he was leaving and so he resigned.

    • BHliberty

      Not sure the Resmuglicans are going to let this one go! It took almost two years before Nixon was faced with impeachment after he was caught! So I think it will take time to let this issue play out!

      • Haywoodjbl

        Good point, I had forgotten it had taken that long…hopefully the senate changes over in two years…..then he goes

      • virginiagentleman1

        You have more faith in the self serving republicans then I do my friend. Unless CONSERVATIVES are elected in 2014 and not Rinos turned Cinos, impeachment isn’t going to happen.
        At present far to many repubs in the Senate and House are either in their ‘give the prez a chance to lead’ mode or, their ‘go along to get along’ mode.
        They do fine in lip service, lots of high tone speeches and hyperbole, but fall short in actionable deeds.

      • tinlizzieowner

        One minor detail, Nixon was a Republican.

  • hbnolikeee

    Personally, I don’t see why this testimony matters. The WH watched the action streaming live. So what is really about is: “You saw what was going on, why did you lie?”

    Nothing else need be added or nuanced. It’s that simple. By continually complicating a simple question, the response will focus on some other minor point in the question as asked. Remember the KISS principle? It needs to be applied here. Who cares what the general said? It’s just not relevant.

    • cathmom

      Yes I agree. I just want to know if Obama was in the room when the action was streamed live. When are we going to get to the bottom of this?

      • hbnolikeee

        In the room or not, do you think that no one in that room discussed what they saw live with him?

  • Sober_Thinking

    Lies. Petraeus is going to continue with the cover up.

    I’d be surprised if this ever gets prosecuted. America loses again.

    “President Obama, I’ve never seen you lose!”

  • Hey Scoop, why don’t you guys time stamp your posts? Like hours and minutes? Just a thought.

    • FreeManWalking

      I like the times tamp Scoop uses… Saves me from all the math stuff…
      Just now
      22 minutes ago
      2 days ago

  • 1endtimes2020

    The best solution is to have another vote. This time, the American voters will know what happened in Bendgazi. Also, have every voting station manned by several representatives of both parties and independants—all paper—no electronoc voting—equals no voter fraud.
    Make sure no one votes more than once.
    Obama is now showing his cordial side to pretend he had nothing to do with covering up the work of AlQuada, by cooperating on the fiscal side.
    He’s quite a deceiver, and Boehner shouldn’t be giving him a friendly nudge. In the meantime Ambassador Stevens is in his grave. Disgusting. Romney needs to insist on another election. No campaigning, just open up the voting stations again, and this time make sure no one is counting votes behind locked doors.
    Governor Chris whatshisname chastizes Romney for being divisive when Romney calls it as he sees it. Chris is ‘supposed’ to be a republican—another pretender and deceiver.
    Romney is 100 times the better man than those two conspirators combined.

    • FreeManWalking

      The only fault I see in your solution is the CONSTITUTION…

      Not that I wouldn’t love to have a do over.

    • Pickupdriver

      If I could hit the “Like” button 100 times, I would.

      • 1endtimes2020

        Thanks. I’d settle for a second voting, wouldn/t you? Maybe the hearings will dig up something really beg—like a Presidential alliance with Hamas. He already told the Russian prime minister he would be “more flexible” with them after his re-election. So, I wouldn’t put it passed him to assist rhe terroists against Israel.

        • Pickupdriver

          I would settle for a second voting…Obama lies whenever he opens his mouth and that “more flexible” comment to the Russian PM is VERY revealing. He has to be impeached if the national recount or second voting doesn’t happen.

  • 1endtimes2020

    We need a new voting to take place. No campaigning, just voting. This time with representatives to make sure no counting is done behind locked doors, and no one votes more than once.
    Romney is certain to have a landslide this time.

  • tinlizzieowner

    2 words, ‘Valerie Jarrett’.

  • OldmanRick

    Only the anointed one or his boss, Valerie Jerrett, had the authority to change the info. One guess as to who really controls the country?

  • Pickupdriver

    And like Rush asked today, “Who’s idea was it to use the video as the excuse?” He said the video didn’t have very many views. I think there is some reason why Hillary isn’t “available” – I think she has some plan, but what?

    • Greg Gutfeld has been asking about the video since the admin began pushing it as an excuse. I don’t know if we’ll ever get the truth about that.

    • she (with her broom) is DNC candidatess for 2016.
      Remember that and all her lies.

  • Darkbella007

    I truly feel they think themselves above the law. They have now been getting away with it since this admins first day. Untouchable. Are they any men/women of conscience anymore? Never mind, no need to answer that.

  • I concur with those of you saying that this smells like Valerie Jerrett. They don’t call her the second lady for nuthin. Obama and his ilk know they can spoon feed their base a steaming pile of fecal matter and it will hardly elicit a blink. The election results are a sad reminder that those of us who have cognitive abilities are now in the minority.

  • tinlizzieowner

    Let’s face it. If this was a Republican administration that didn’t seem to know as much as this gets away with ‘not knowing’ on such a regular basis, the ‘media’ would crucify it.

    • True. Look how the media pounded the “dead count” all while Bush was in power… Then we “got” NObama and the media suddenly had no more interest in how many good patriotic soldiers were dying….

      Then they were pounding the drum that Gitmo must close! Again, not a peep now.

      And look at F&F… Barely any interest… All the money wasted on the green scam… Not of interest to them… NObama flips on homosexual marriage, and they call it “evolved” if that was a Republican, he’d a a “dirty rotten flip-flopper”

      It goes on and one… 🙁

      • tinlizzieowner

        Bush drones = Bad.
        Obama drones = Good.
        The hypocrisy goes on and on.

  • Jarrett is FuBar Ack’s boss, so that’s a possibility…didn’t she said the hell with Israel?….
    maybe not verbatim…
    nobody knows anything, like nobody gave millions of dollars to straw buyers to get guns for mex drug lords.
    You know what I mean.
    Just nobody.

  • XXIIFan


  • syvyn11

    Time to stop pu$$yfooting around. TIME TO IMPEACH!

    We’ll take our chances with Biden.

  • pdxlady

    Didn’t see an open thread, so I thought I would post this here; as it is kind of encouraging, and there may be something we can all do…

    REPUBLICAN INSIDER: “Petraeus Gave Us An Opportunity – Now We Need All Of Your Help”

    “…If people want to possibly change the outcome…or the discussion…they have to use this new media to do it. You have to understand that the Obama White House has hundreds of people…all they do is post and comment and try to push their version. They…what it is…it’s a whole program to either direct the news coverage, or give media the excuse that they are just reporting on…or reflecting the public opinion.”

    “We need to get ahead of this new media thing…all of us. Republicans. Conservatives…whatever.” …”So everyone needs to go out there and post their comments. Make the media know we are more…ummm…we are paying attention now. And so…they need to cover what…the stories that we are commenting on. Use basic economics on them. Just go all out and overwhelm the comments sections of these stories. Share the truth. And demand…demand more of the truth. And demand that they start…they need to ask this White House real questions now. Can you do that? Can they do that? Petraeus gave us an opportunity – now we need all of your help.”

    • I’m all for that and have been trying to practice it myself.

      • pdxlady

        Me too, wolfie my friend!

  • armyvet10

    Look, we all know that Bohner will never establish the intestinal fortitude to start any investigation into who lied, when they lied or who they lied to. Instead he will react as he always does by saying how useless it is to fight Obama on anything because the numbers are too mighty against him. At times like this I think of all the brave men that stormed the beaches at Normandy, knowing only that success must be reached regardless of the cost. They did not throw up their hands but forged forward knowing that the next breath could be their last. I thank the good lord that there are people all over this great country that will fight the good fight no matter what the numbers are. Shield yourselves with the truth for the truth is like a light onto the darkness, it shines through the lies like day onto the night. Keep faith and support those who are conservative in their lives and deeds.

    • 1endtimes2020

      Thanks, armyvet10, for all you did to defend the USA.
      It must be disappointing to realize so many countries dislike America.
      Don’t let those countries bother you. Those countires don’t survive. The vast majority of people in the world care deeply about the USA, and know that America is always the first to offer help wherever disaster strikes in the world. America has even sent aid to North Korea, even when their selfish government leaders turned on the USA.–all for the sake of helping the people, not the leaders.
      I extend my hand to you, sir, and ny deep appreciation for all you contributed toward a good America.

      • armyvet10

        Thank you for the kind words. I’m not so disappointed in the dislike of America from other countries as much as I am furious with the hate of this great country from its own citizens. No country that I have ever studied history on has ever been squeaky clean, not even the so called neutral Switzerland. Still I am beguiled by how so many can climb on the U.S.A bashing band wagon and even utter sympathy for countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria and now even Egypt. I was watching some news and while flipping through the channels, I happen to catch a rant from a woman on MSNBC (ch 51 for me) berating Israel for retaliation against Hamas. In her words Benjamin Netanyahu needed to negotiate instead of attack. History has proven that Hamas only negotiates to get more and when they feel they want more, Hamas resorts to launching rockets. It is simple, Hamas doesn’t want to negotiate, they want appeasement, and when they get it Israel loses. After the appeasement wears off, Israel is expected to negotiate again and lose more. This will go on until Israel is no more. I say no, Benjamin Netanyahu is right, no more appeasement, no more falling back. We here in America will soon be faced with the same choice.

        • 1endtimes2020

          Very insightful, sir. The more I see what is going on, the more I believe we are seeing the Book of Revelation unfolding before my eyes.
          There will be peace for a time, followed by the Tribulation, and then all hell will break loose.Jesus Christ will return to rule for 1,000 years, with Satan gone. He will show us how to govern, and have His good people govern along with Him. Then, the Devil will be allowed on Earth, for a very short time, just to prove to us how he will continue his rebelliois ways, and continue to tempt us as before. That will finally be the end of him.
          It’s in the Book. Jesus said, ‘when you see these things happen, do not be afraid. Look up and know that your redemption is near.’
          If you want to see the part, Mary, mother of Jesus, has in the peace process, visit Start with DVD’Heavens Key to Peace.’
          Take care. Happy Thanksgiving Day.