By The Right Scoop


This is a question that comes up often when horrible things happen like today’s mass killing in Connecticut. And when it does I turn to Ravi Zacharias, the wisest man I know:

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  • vinny

    God allows it on purpose to happen…so u come groveling to him. It’s all apart of the game.

    • stage9

      No WE allow it to happen. You (we) are responsible. No one forced that kid to shoot those children. It was his sin alone. It was his will alone. It was his refusal to obey his conscience. It was his choice to buy a gun. It was his choice to plan the murder. It was his choice to commit the murder.

      We never acknowledge God when good happens, only when tragedy happens.

      Had this kid turned from sin and trusted in God and obeyed His Word which says very clearly in B&W: THOU SHALT NO KILL — he would NEVER had done this. Instead, he continued to feed the monster. He continued to ignore his conscience, and little by little, one compromise after another, he ended up where he did.

      WE ALL have choices to make, we just refuse to make the right ones.

      • DebbyX

        Great!! Vinny has just been schooled!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • sDee

          Me too ;)

          Thanks stage

        • Conservative_Hippie

          Although I appreciate vinniy’s honesty.

      • LIBERTYUSA

        Right On stage9 , Right On .

      • maybetoday777

        Great comments stage9 but no one today and I mean no one especially are Bible-correcting Laodicean Nicolatian pastors are teaching anyone, anything proper regarding the Book. This is why our society is in the shape and form it is today. And, the bottom line is God allows good and evil for one reason and you brought it up but didn’t hammer it home. And the answer is 100% free will choice. There is God. There is Satan. There is you. It is a love triangle. Whom do YOU choose? God wants to know which side you are on! Everything that has happened since Eve disobeyed the WORDS that God spoke has been God’s response to us (our actions). And, God knows both sides and angles and he just plays his cards however He sees fit. He knows all the outcomes of the choices you make. And there He is. God is fine either way. Its YOU (me and anyone else) that is NOT. I know your answer. I am just proving a point.

        The greatest verse in all Scripture that shows God is really THE God and the God of History (as in HIS story) is Isa 41:22-24. It is about prophecy. It goes like this!

        Isa 41:22-24: Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.

        23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.

        24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you

        In this verse God challenges all the atheists, humanists and evolutionists to do what He did, and none of them can nor will. Prophecy via mathematics is straw that breaks the camel’s back so to speak. God’s prophets gave 48 details of Jesus Christ’s life from 400 to 4,000 years before He showed up and everyone came to pass. The odds of this happening are 1×10 to 157th power. There are not that many electrons in 4 universes the size of our known universe. This is not even counting the 500 verses that have YET to be fulfilled in the OT. They are coming at the Second Advent. Tick tock tick tock world. Your time is soon at an end.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OOKK3KBK7M2DX5OKOV7ODZ3QTA Jay

        So what did these kids do to deserve getting murdered?

        • Conservative_Hippie

          You ask a fair question Jay and it demands an answer. Anyone?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Molly-Zin/100002267303943 Molly Zin

            The answer is, they didn’t do anything to deserve getting murdered. They didn’t deserve getting murdered.

        • http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon

          While on this earth evil does not know boundaries!

      • colliemum

        Thank you for this great post, stage9!

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Stage9 said it excellently- I just wanted to add this little bit,God uses what happens for His good, He doesn’t cause it.

    • Rshill7

      In the last shooter thread, (maybe the first one) you asked why the shooter had a girlfriend and you don’t. Read your own posts. I read a few of them, and if you have, you have the answer to your own question.

    • Nukeman60

      I hope you watched the video above. You, more than most, need it badly. To be blind is not necessarily wrong, but to be purposely blind when someone shines the light for you is unforgivable. I hope you find solace from what ails you. Videos like the one above will help. Please watch.

    • Judefour

      God does allow the faculty of the will to choose between good and evil. If the innocent are murdered (children at an age of unaccountability) they are immediately taken to the place of comfort before the Lord. As for those with a rational mind, and accountable to the Creator, they will be where they prepared to be during their lifetime; those that “know not God” (reject Him outright), and those that “obey not the gospel” (profess to know Jesus, but in deeds they deny Him), will both “life up their eyes in Hell.” “The judge of all the earth shall do right”.

      Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. (Rom 2:6-11)

    • Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el

      Just a short response … If anyone on this earth went “Groveling” to the Father “God” the Father would spit them out and they will be no more… Second it’s no where near a game!!! The evil that is yet to be unleashed by Satan through his fallen angles upon this earth makes all evil we have seen throughout time seem timid..

      Since the beginning it has and till the end it will be Humans fault for choosing evil over good.. Or Humans allow this not the Father “God” So one can mock and blame “God” all they want – but that is the nature of Humans not to blame themselves for sh!t…… Satan allows this on purpose for more reason then can be written here….

    • Biggbear52

      It is exceptionally obvious you did not listen to the video.

    • http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon

      To do good or evil is a choice everyone makes everyday!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.j.terry1 Mary Jo Terry

      You are not the brightest light on the tree.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Molly-Zin/100002267303943 Molly Zin

      It happened because someone with evil purpose in his heart decided to ignore God’s command “You shall not kill”.

      God himself came down, took our sins on himself, and then laid his own life down to redeem us, and so we can go to him, but not groveling. We go with confidence because we know we’ll be accepted and answered.

      “Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.” Hebrews 4:16

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JGHY6UA4K2QEPGDZPK7PTQZJIU yahoo-JGHY6UA4K2QEPGDZPK7PTQZJIU

      How ignorant you are vinny.

  • stage9

    GREAT! post Scoop! I love Zacharias too.

    • Orangeone

      Thanks Scoop! First time I’ve seen Zacharias.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        He’s excellent Orangesis. You ought to go to his website and listen to more. http://www.rzim.org/

        • Orangeone

          Thank you Sis!  I need this today.  Lots have gone to God this day in history :(  Grieving for my mom (20 years today), Brian Terry (2 years today) and now these 20 children.  I have solace that my mom and Brian Terry have those beautiful children in their loving arms.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            (((())))s sis. I’ll keep you in my prayers sweet lady.

            • Orangeone

              Thanks Sis

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                It’s what I’m here for. ((()))s

                • Orangeone

                  Made this horrific day more manageable because of you and the other Scoop family members! Thank you Scoop for this outstanding forum.

      • stage9

        He is truly one of my top 5 greatest influences.

        • Orangeone

          Thanks to ABinC, I have now bookmarked his site and will visit it frequently.

    • marketcomp

      Putting it all in perspective! I mean where else can would we find such introspection and reflection about good and evil. Thank you, RS! Your the best!

  • NoToTyrants

    Thank you, Scoop.

    Brilliantly reasoned and very articulately stated.

    I already knew this, but it helps to have it reinforced and presented so eloquently.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Thank you very much for this Scoop. It was perfect.

    ” Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are
    decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure…are undermining
    the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
    Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence.

    “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure
    when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that
    these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?

    Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot
    sleep forever.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    For nearly 100 years our government has been building itself as the giver of laws and things. Society has been conditioned to believe in Government instead of God. We’ve had nearly 100 years of society built in vain, on sand, is it any wonder that it is crumbling so fast.

  • Steven

    This is very timely Scoop and it should humble everyone about where they stand in this world. I will say that in order to understand God and tragedy, you have to understand two events in the bible –the Garden of Eden and the cross. Before anyone comes to any conclusions, you have to understand that in both instances, God allowed things to transpire that precluded us from living in a perfect world, because of free will. Think about the choice man made that God could have prevented from the beginning in the Garden, but also understand he would not be God if he prevented it. The same with the cross. If he didn’t allow Christ to be killed, we would not be able to know him as He really is. It’s all encompassing and should humble anyone living under the allusion that they are so special that tragedy or life won’t happen to them (is anyone here better or more deserving of life as those kids?).

    No, there is a season for everything. In the story of Joseph, we come to understand that there were years of famine and years of plenty. But in both seasons, God was working His will. The famine prompted Israel to leave Canaan and dwell in Egypt, where his children would then grow and become slaves of the Egyptians for 400 years. Then they came out with the spoils of Egypt and inherited the promise land, but then were conquered by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians and exiled and dispersed, only to return again. Then Christ came to bring the Word to whole world, but ever since we’ve had ups and downs, ebbs and flows, famine and plenty.

    As long as the earth exist, there will be seed time and harvest time and there will be famine. No one is immune to this. This is the world we chose and God allows it so that we can know Him, so that unlike in the beginning, we will use our free will to finally choose Him and not our own way.

  • opinionatedhermit

    You cannot give true Love, freely with profound proof, without first having the opportunity to reject it.

    This man killed his mother and father. He then went on to kill innocent children and other people. I am struck.

    Today is a very sad day. :(

    Thank you for this Scoop. I had not seen it. I thought it was beautifully put forward. All the essence of Job, right there.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      ((()))s my HermitFriend.

  • sDee

    I cannot reason well, that for which I only have fear and faith. I also have little patience for those who pose this question not for their enlightenment, but for belittlement or academic argument. So, I hope I do not offend anyone here with the short answer I have for petty liberal minds that can neither respect, reason, nor believe:

    perhaps have you considered what you have done or failed to do? That when God did send us a man destined to stop it, solve it or heal it, that you had Planned Parenthood pull him from the womb?

    • stage9

      SDee that is very, very thought provoking.

      • sDee

        I am glad you consider it then, and that it did not offend. It does trouble me.

        • stage9

          Not at all. I think it’s been said so many times in many ways. I mean who’s to say one of those children in that classroom even wasn’t the next great president of the United States or the one who held the answer to a cure for cancer?

          We’ll never know, but each life is precious and deserves a chance. We give that much opportunity to some wild animals, why not the unborn?

    • PapaLouie

      It does make you wonder. But what really baffles me is how whenever a high profile shooting takes place, the left immediately wants to ban guns. Yet, after millions of unborn children have been aborted, they still refuse to call for any kind of ban on abortion even though they know innocent lives would be saved. Which ban would, by orders of magnitude, save the most lives?

  • Rshill7

    God is a Gentleman. He doesn’t show up uninvited. One needs to invite him in.

    In 1963 prayer was removed from schools. In 1973 abortion was legalized.

    1. No God in schools. (formally uninvited)

    2. It’s OK to kill babies.

    :-(

    Here’s a crazy suggestion.

    1. Invite God back in.

    2. Outlaw the killing of babies.

    • Orangeone

      Let’s also reinstate our Pledge of Allegiance to our flag, not to the worship of Barky Boy.

    • jodypear

      Yep. Obama wants “meaningful action.” Here’s some: Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.–Eph. 6:4

  • stage9

    You know there’s an interesting parallel to this in scripture. There’s a point during the last supper when Jesus exposes the man who was soon to betray Him. Jesus called him out by declaring that whoever dips the bread in the cup with him will be the one who betrays Him. Lo and behold the disciple is revealed to be Judas. The very next scripture is sobering…

    “Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot…” Luke 22:3

    I believe there is always a point of decision to make. That moment in time when you have a choice to make — to sin or to walk away. I believe when you choose to commit murder like this kid did today, there is that moment of decision when you either obey your conscience or ignore it and proceed with the crime. If you choose to engage in the crime, I believe satan does to you what he did to Judas.

    After Judas committed to the decision to betray Jesus, satan entered into him and by the end of that evening he had hung himself and died.

    The wages of sin is death. Sin puts us on a road to death and that’s the only destination it can offer us. There is no pot of gold at the end of that road.

    Jesus Christ offers us a detour. A way of escape. A road to freedom and joy. We would all do well to take the next exit.

    • colliemum

      I’d add one more thought to your post:

      Once one has chosen to follow Jesus, hard and daunting as it is, then some ‘choices’ have already fallen away.
      The heart on which God Himself has written His Law simply won’t be, simply cannot be in a place where to decide about murdering children because one feels hurt.
      It is an impossibility.

    • Is_Sense_Common

      Stage9, I love your posts and I love what you are bringing out in Scripture. You have a beautiful way of shining truth on the situation and for that I thank you!

      My only issue is that the shooter wasn’t a “kid.” He was a 20-year old man. A young man, but a man, nonetheless. I don’t know why that matters to me, but I expect a 20-year old to be a grown-up. Mature? Maybe not, but responsible for his actions for sure. Some of our finest military men are younger than 20 & you can sure believe that they take full responsibility for their actions. I hope I’m not taking anything away from your message, because you speak Truth in His name. I just bristled a bit at the “kid” part. Have a blessed day & please continue educating the rest of us! xoxo

      • http://twitter.com/vettegal14 Robin Carmack

        I see what you are saying but evil is not defined by age but by the human heart,

        ““The heart is deceitful above all things,
        And desperately wicked;
        Who can know it?” [Jer. 17:9]

        I find it strangely ironic that we have a President who supports partial birth abortion is now tearing because “these kids had their entire lives ahead of them?” This is the same man whose “healthcare” plan provides for unlimited abortions for what, $1 added to insurance premiums? This is the problem. When something like this occurs our first question is “why would God allow this to happen to children” yet many of the same people support the slaughtering of those in the womb. We have a tendency to become moralists when “God does it” or “God doesn’t prevent it” but murdering an unborn child somehow escapes the same criticism. It then becomes our “right.” You can take away every weapon known to man and nothing will change about the heart of man. Note the last 2 verses of John 2, “But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men, and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.” When something like this happens we always look to regulate instead of repent. Barack Obama has a mission to transform the United States of America. If he truly wants to do any good, he needs to start with his own heart.

    • TXLadyPatriot

      Amen, stage9 … I hope you don’t mind, but I’d like to share those thoughts with my friends & family on Facebook.

  • Nukeman60

    People want a God that does everything for us, to eliminate all evil and make our lives perfect. When He forces us to use free-will, they wail and lament that there is no God. These are the people that also think the government must do everything for us.

    If we think for ourselves, pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, and create a life for ourselves that is good, then that is what we end up with. As with God as well, if we use free-will and follow the Word, we end up enjoying the fruits of Heaven. In both cases, sometimes the road is hard and full of potholes, but the end is well worth it.

    This is the test we call human existence. Can we end up where we want and do we have it in us to accomplish that? For some yes, for others, not so much.

    • Rshill7

      Right. God is Love, and desires the same.

      Of all the things which another can force you to do, no one can force you to love.

      God’s allowance and indeed gift of freewill also precludes him from forcing folks to love, either him or any other.

      Were God a puppet master and we marionettes, things would be different. We were however, created in his own image, with freewill.

  • 911Infidel

    Sin entered the world in the Graden. God warned Adam and Eve not to eat of the forbidden tree, but they listened to Satan who told them , that if they disobeyed Him, they would be like God and understand good and evil. Stan didn’t finish his meme by also telling them, that they would then also experience good and evil.

    Free will is also a factor which Ravi touched on. God isn’t interested in forcing everyone to follow His will. He wants volunteers. So He gives everyone the right to choose good or evil.

    “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15

    “You may be an ambassador to England or France
    You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
    You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
    You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

    But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
    You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
    It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
    But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.”

    – Bob Dylan

  • LIBERTYUSA

    …Evil Exists and Good Exists it is your CHOICE .”

  • sjmom

    Ravi is a very wise man.

  • BeyondPolls

    Ravi Zacharias <33333

  • bbitter

    “Without eternity the problem of evil remains totally unsolved, in fact, the question remains indefensible.”

    Great way of saying that we get our noses glued to our belly buttons. I’ve said before that God’s goal is not to keep us alive. The goal is to bring us back to Him. It’s ludicrous to assume that prolonging mortal life is the goal, yet almost everything we deem ‘evil’ is tied to mortal death. If god’s goal or purpose was to keep people alive and happy, then he’s terrible at his job. This is why Atheists find it so hard to justify God’s existence – they only believe what they can quantify and ‘see’, which is only ‘now’.

    I don’t mourn for those children, I believe they were innocents and rest in the arms of the Lord. I mourn for the parents and families who are missing their loved ones. When eternity is taken into account, suddenly all evil becomes impotent unless it is personally embraced. The shooter hurt those children? Yes. But it was momentary and they have joy now.

    We don’t understand God’s will and ways, not because they are ‘mysterious’ or ‘secret’, but because we are too focused on ourselves, on our lives, and we don’t see the plan. That’s all.

    • Steven

      Yes, to God these kids are as alive as they were to us yesterday. There is only life for those who know God. The world fell at the beginning as a place of eternal habitation, but God didn’t give up on us. He redeemed us through Christ.

      You are right the ones left behind, are the ones who suffer and who we should feel for now. They had hopes, dreams and their lives were tied to these precious children. That has been altered now by a lunatic fill with hatred of the devil! Eternity will bring about the final justice that he escaped in this life.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Very well said b.

  • Howzah123

    People choose evil

    God gives everyone a choice. He doesn’t want blind worship like Dictators do.

  • Rshill7

    I was introduced to Ravi in the late 1990’s via the airwaves. He used to come on our Christian radio station every Sunday morning. I shortly thereafter found his website which included archives. I listened to those subjects which interested me most. The man is brilliant. He just is. Your honest mind will affirm that to you as well, if you listen. The program of his that first got me listening was called, “Let My People Think”.

    Ravi will show you that Christianity is indeed the truly intellectual position, and that contrary ones posing as such, are the epitome of intellectual as well as spiritual suicide.

    If you’re an atheist, listen to one who is so far beyond you, you’ll wonder how you ever claimed anything about anything, much less something with such ultimate eternal import as, “In the beginning God…” or “In the beginning nothing…”

    Give God another chance. Think it all the way through this time. At least be intelligent enough to realize that you don’t know.

    • Steven

      God is the beginning!

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I still listen to him every Sunday night on my local radio station. I’ll never get tired of his teaching and wisdom.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1 Jim Garrow

    Although I have had many conversations with Ravi, it is his sister Shyamala and her husband Sunder that I have known since the late 1960’s. Sunder preached the memorial service when my Mother passed away and ministered to my parents for over 25 years. All I can say is that Ravi comes from good stock and he’s pretty smart to boot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1 Jim Garrow

    Although I have had many conversations with Ravi, it is his sister Shyamala and her husband Sunder that I have known since the late 1960’s. Sunder preached the memorial service when my Mother passed away and ministered to my parents for over 25 years. All I can say is that Ravi comes from good stock and he’s pretty smart to boot.

    • stage9

      If you get the opportunity, please tell him thank you for all he does. His work has really helped me grow in my faith.

  • I Like Shooting, Too

    God doesn’t allow evil do happen. Evil people commit evil acts. God doesn’t control people. But some people do believe God control’s people’s acts. IF God controlled people’s acts, then he would be evil, because many people have committed evil acts, including recently with shootings. If you go under the belief that God is good, then you also must believe he doesn’t control people’s acts. Considering that people can do whatever they want (being that they have a brain that they use to think about what they want to do), then it is obvious that God doesn’t control us.

  • DINORightMarie

    Ravi is by far the most rational, reasoned, and sound Christian apologists. Dr. Michael Youssef is another. But Dr. Ravi Zacharias is so deeply, richly steeped in the Word of God, and his logical analysis and measured, careful, reasoned answers are wonderful! I praise God for Ravi. His ministry website, rzim.org, is fabulous! Check him out! <3

  • hongryhawg

    The times I’ve questioned my faith, I needed only to look toward the liberals to know that there is a Satan hard at work. And where there is a Satan, there is a God. And just like that; I’m back on track.

  • llsmith50

    Galatians 6;7 (Bible) saids “God cannot/wont be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.” We have banished any mention of God from anything and everything we can think of ( we even take Christ out of Christmas) and then ask where is God, how can he let this happen? We have taught the last 50 yrs that we came from ape and that life has no purpose then wonder why we have children that act like animals. We killed almost 50 million babies in the name of choice (birth control) and then we can’t understand why life has no value. There is no longer black or white,right or wrong, good or bad/evil just 50 shades of gray. We raised a generation on the idea that everybody gets a trophy just for showing up, not for earning it and they think that they graduate college into the life of luxery.

    There is also a verse that saids “raise up a child in the way they should go and when they are old they wont depart from it.”

    and one more 2 Chronicles 7;14 “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sins, and heal their land.”

  • Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el

    “And another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth…”

    “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which
    deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

    That is why we have Evil and why Evil and Humans will perish.. But not all humans will parish because some choose Good not Evil….. Or Choose to Love God not follow Satan and his angles…

    Also for those who believe this is just all religious crap – A day is coming soon and You will believe in something as you’re defecating upon yourselves….

  • http://911dj.com Greg Legakis

    Good Stuff.

  • colliemum

    Late to this debate – but again, thank you, scoop, for this video by this outstanding apologete.
    It bears listening to over and over again, and even on the first take I am left with hope and love.

    What Ravi Zacharias also could’ve said (but is too god a Christian to say so) is that we can see the outworkings of atheism, where ‘bad’ and ‘evil’ have no ultimate consequences, in the horrendous murder of the innocents yesterday.
    Where ‘ego’ has replaced God, where ‘my’ interests and desires are the sole measure in my life, and where others will defend my evil deeds with spurious excuses, if they don’t support them outright, there we have such murderous individuals who value their own gratification higher than anything else.
    And it is in this society that control by the elect is of vital importance, because how else can they get people to do as they say?

    Thank you again for this video, scoop.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      Well said!

  • mediaaccess1

    Interesting.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    Ravi is awesome!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    Thank you for posting this.

    Where can I get more from Ravi?

  • Rob_Bryant

    What he said at the beginning reminds me of how Dinesh D’Souza puts it:

    EDIT: It’s kind of longish, but I think worth listening to.

  • wodiej

    Free Will-Amen.

  • semihardrock

    “why a good God allows evil to happen”…..because Government couldnt exist without it!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGBTIHBSJXMUIDM4BW5OEDWMQQ Rony

    what a load of bull!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZSU2D67ODNZOKEZYHXONQ4F5Y John

      load of bull???…in your head, heathen….
      intelligent people do not discuss subjects they know nothing about, so get back to consuming illegal substance and drinking legal liquids.
      Try to think on your own, do not repeat your atheist-professor’s foggy opinions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000837267510 Gene Herndon

    Why no Facebook link??

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

    Dr Ravi has great wisdom and continues to share his faith with absolutely brilliant answers to many serious questions asked by a lost world and many Christians, he reinforces the faith of Christians that G-D through Christ Jesus through the holy spirit is still with his people.

  • bobmc220

    When it is known that evil is simply ‘disorder’ something being the way it ought not be. That this creation is not a first immediate creation of GOD. It is a creation out of something that already existed i.e.’the void’ the chaos’, and what is chaos? nothing but total disorder, and to this disorder GOD added light, (not the light of the sun,it hadn’t been created yet) but a degree of heaven i.e. ‘light’ or ‘order’ which are the same thing,or i.e.’that which is free from all disorder’ out of those two things the world was created i’e’ ‘order and disorder’ hence the ‘good and evil’in this world,proof that we live in a fallen world or a world made up of good and evil.Merry Chrismas to all,much love keep up the good work ! :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Molly-Zin/100002267303943 Molly Zin

    Ravi Zacharius can see right to the heart of a question, and articulate an answer that is correct, wise, kind, loving, and inviting. What a man of God. I want to grow to be just like him. :o)

    “This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live. Deuteronomy 30:19″

    God gives us an honest and real choice by offering not only himself, but also by offering something that is the opposite of himself and contains nothing of himself–we can have him if we want him, or we can have a thing that is not him in any way if we want that. It’s the only REAL choice we ever actually have. It is out of choosing that which is not him that evil arises.

    God does not “allow” evil, in fact his command is “Choose Life!” and he reminds us that this choice leads to life not just for us but for our children and their children. He commands us to love one another and to lay down our very lives if that what it takes. He specifically FORBIDS the things we do that harm each other. He only tolerates our evil, at great cost to himself and only for a limited time and a specific purpose. He is patient because there are more people to come who will be his, but he will NOT tolerate it forever. There will be an end to it.

  • ManfredtheWonderDog

    I would offer up this as a better answer: http://youtu.be/lD1yv4J6ohE

    A written explanation here: https://cmmorrison.wordpress.com/tag/voddie-baucham/

    • PNWShan

      Manfred, that was a great video. I’d never heard of Voddie Baucham before.

      There’s been some great discussion on this board (thanks, Scoop!). The occurrence in CT reminded me of other acts of evil perpetrated against children: Herod killed all the Hebrew boys under the age of 2 just to stop one from becoming the Christ. Pharaoh likewise killed all firstborn Hebrew boys at the time of Moses’ birth. Nazis murdered about 1.5 million children.

      In addition to hating all mankind, I believe Satan particularly hates children, and he knows that harm caused to innocent children hurts us deeply; conversely, if he can get adults to routinely perpetrate harm upon children, that evil corrupts us to the core. Molech demanded child sacrifice; today, there is abortion, but today there is also child slavery and child sex trafficking.

      • ManfredtheWonderDog

        PNWShan – Thank you for your kind reply. Voddie Baucham is my pastor :-) We are thankful to God for him and all men who are faithful to the Word.

  • PapaLouie

    Consider this analogy. Let’s say you have a small child that has been diagnosed with cancer. The doctor tells you that the cancer has a high probability of being cured. However, it will require surgery and chemotherapy that will be difficult and painful for your child to endure. She will lose her hair, suffer severe nausea, have difficulty eating, and will be bedridden for a period of time. As an active and energetic child, this will seem like torture to her. She is too young to understand why you would put her through all this suffering. She will be upset at you and uncooperative when you take her to get her treatments. Knowing all this, do you go ahead with the proposed treatment? Or do you reject it out of concern that your child will suffer?

    It’s not hard to understand that a loving parent will choose the course that is most likely to result in a permanent cure, even if it means going through some temporary pain and suffering to get there. The child may not understand why you are allowing the doctor to do this to her, but later she will. Looking back, after she is cured, everyone will be glad the right decision was made.

    We are like that small child. We don’t understand why we have to experience pain and suffering in this life, but later we will learn the reason. Then we will be glad that we went through it, if we endure it well. To God, this life is a temporary existence. No one survives it. We all have to suffer at times while we are here. I don’t know all the reasons for it, but I believe strongly that there are good reasons. There are things we need to learn by experiencing pain. It could be that we have to taste the bitter before we can learn to appreciate the sweet. If experiencing temporary sorrow will allow us to experience eternal joy, is it not worth the price?