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A message for the PaulBot isolationists or noninterventionists:
"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue----and thoroughly immoral----doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonapatre and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee.
Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forgot this basic truth have ALWAYS paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."
-----Robert Heinlein
If you truly value freedom and liberty, you will remember this lesson, and stop advocating a suicidal foreign policy.
In response to those who criticize Cotton for saying "radical Islam" etc., I think he might be trying to take a page from the Alinsky playbook. What do we see leftists doing all the time, but tying to separate Conservatives/Republicans into 'people we can work with' and 'wackos'. This encourages those who don't want to think of themselves as 'wackos' to compromise with the left.
So, maybe some people are trying to fight Islamists in a similar way: separating radical jihadists from 'moderate' muslims. There are billions of muslims and it can be helpful if we can enlist the moderates, aka the ones who have grown up surrounded by western values, to marginalize the jihadis.
Do I believe that 'moderate' muslims also want to take over the world and subjugate it all to the Caliphate? Yes. But I'm not against splintering them up first - and may turning some away from their misguided faith. I'd rather a billion muslims would become Christians than try to fight them all.
@PNWShan Anyone who wants to take over the world and suppress the people isn't moderate.
I just refused to watch that Jihad movie on another thread here at Right Scoop because in the first 60 seconds of it it says that MOST MUSLIMS do not support Jihad. Where are the facts? Where are the polls? Has anyone here seen any valid documentation that supports this? Maybe in America where we have VERY FEW Muslims...who were born here and do not want to disturb there wonderful life here may not support it but you can take it to the bank where Muslims in poverty stricken countries support it at almost 100%. What have they got to lose? Nada....and if we believe bullarkey like what Brennan is trying to project in that Jihad is not a holy war of terror then we are in for a rude awakening.
@suzy000 Most Muslims don't support terrorism. Do you think all Muslims are terrorists? First, you are very stupid if you think so, and secondly, you are a bigot to call everyone a terrorist without even knowing them. If you think that MOST MUSLIMS are terrorists, you must present facts.
There are polls done in the Muslim world, and they found that less than a majority of Muslims "support" terrorism. 25% of young Muslims "support" suicide bombings. That is a dangerously high number, but it is less than 50%, thus it is a minority. "Most" means "majority."
http://voices.yahoo.com/dangerous-percentage-25-young-muslim-americans-388261.html
Islam will be defeated.The Lord himself will bring about their destruction.They will be wiped from the face of the earth.Their days are numbered.
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Radical Islamists fight with USA, murder non-muslims, and our gove pretends nothing is happening....
Shame.
@Phhh France has multiple zones within it's borders that travel to by non-Muslims is discouraged . Two questions.......... first, why ? Second, why can't I visit Mecca ?
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I to am tired of hearing about radical Islam from politicians who think terrorists are a separate entity from other Muslims. There are two kind of Muslims and neither of them are interested in living peacefully with non-Muslims. There are the terrorists who participate in terrorists acts and there are the Muslims who immigrate to other countries and abide there peacefully while trying to undermine the rule of law, until they have sufficient numbers to force their host country to succumb. The only reason Islam can even be called a religion is because they do believe in and worship a God, but to even suggest Islam is a religion of peace is naive and dangerous. Any western country that wants to survive needs to stop all Muslim immigration to their country.
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Great clip and good for Cotton. He gets it. This 'war against terror' nonsense has diverted the issue and the public perception from Jihad to some nebulous concept with faceless, nameless advocates and prctitioners. He nails it.
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So Tom Cotton says we are fighting radical Islamic jihadists, and you say he is wrong? Are you condoning jihad or trying to push it under the rug? To say we are fighting a war with Islam is hateful and wrong. You are condemning every Muslim to the status of enemy. You obviously didn't take much time to consider the non-violent, non-radical Muslims who aren't enemies of America.
There are 2 types of Muslims, (1) the active ones that murder innocent people; and (2) the passive ones that arm and fund the active ones.
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@WaiGuoGuizi You cannot be a Muslim if you don't believe in the Koran. The Koran does not teach peaceful co-existence with non-believers.There are no peace loving Muslims, there are only those who don't participate in terrorist acts but support them and those who do participate in terrorist acts.The only Muslim you will ever hear speak out against terrorism are those who are no longer Muslim.
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@WaiGuoGuizi You obviously haven't studied the subject much nor did you read the entire thread.
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No live-open thread Saint Patrick's day thread? :-( Happy Saint Patrick's Day to all the Irish reading... And all the people who have Irish heritage reading! And those what just WISH they had Irish heritage! :-)
Now remember Saint Patrick's day is NOT about green beer, green rivers and drunken idiocy! But it's about celebrating the greatest Saint in Ireland.... And he wrote this poem... Which I present here...
I
bind unto myself today
The strong Name of the Trinity,
By invocation of the same,
The Three in One and One in Three.
I
bind this day to me for ever.
By power of faith, Christ's incarnation;
His baptism in the Jordan river;
His death on Cross for my salvation;
His bursting from the spicèd tomb;
His riding up the heavenly way;
His coming at the day of doom;*
I bind unto myself today.
I
bind unto myself the power
Of the great love of the cherubim;
The sweet 'well done' in judgment hour,
The service of the seraphim,
Confessors' faith, Apostles' word,
The Patriarchs' prayers, the Prophets' scrolls,
All good deeds done unto the Lord,
And purity of virgin souls.
I
bind unto myself today
The virtues of the starlit heaven,
The glorious sun's life-giving ray,
The whiteness of the moon at even,
The flashing of the lightning free,
The whirling wind's tempestuous shocks,
The stable earth, the deep salt sea,
Around the old eternal rocks.
I
bind unto myself today
The power of God to hold and lead,
His eye to watch, His might to stay,
His ear to hearken to my need.
The wisdom of my God to teach,
His hand to guide, His shield to ward,
The word of God to give me speech,
His heavenly host to be my guard.
Against
the demon snares of sin,
The vice that gives temptation force,
The natural lusts that war within,
The hostile men that mar my course;
Or few or many, far or nigh,
In every place and in all hours,
Against their fierce hostility,
I bind to me these holy powers.
Against
all Satan's spells and wiles,
Against false words of heresy,
Against the knowledge that defiles,
Against the heart's idolatry,
Against the wizard's evil craft,
Against the death wound and the burning,
The choking wave and the poisoned shaft,
Protect me, Christ, till Thy returning.
Christ
be with me, Christ within me,
Christ behind me, Christ before me,
Christ beside me, Christ to win me,
Christ to comfort and restore me.
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ in quiet, Christ in danger,
Christ in hearts of all that love me,
Christ in mouth of friend and stranger.
I
bind unto myself the Name,
The strong Name of the Trinity;
By invocation of the same.
The Three in One, and One in Three,
Of Whom all nature hath creation,
Eternal Father, Spirit, Word:
Praise to the Lord of my salvation,
Salvation is of Christ the Lord.
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@WolfieUSA From an Irishman that I used to hang out with: Tis a sin to God and man for an Irishman not to have a drink on Saint Patty's day. Gotta say it with a touch of the Irish brogue.
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@WolfieUSA If there is anything in a name, long ago my family played heavenly music for Clan Buchanan.
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We're all Irish today. Erin go braugh! Corned beef and cabbage in the crockpot. Woo Hoo!
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Islam, the religion of pieces of people all over the place. Kaboom. Jesus: "Love your neighbor" Mohammed: "Subjugate your neighbor."
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For many years I thought the 200,000,000 man army spoken about in Revelations would almost have to be from China, but it's obvious to anyone it will come from the ME, .ie Muslims. They will, at some time, attack Israel in force, and just as promised, the G_D of Abraham will "open up the earth, and swallow them."
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"Neither Obama or the rest of the public understand that this is a real war" Oh yes he does, but tragically for the nation, he's on the wrong side...
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And by the way, any elected official who parrots that jihadi garbage is NOT a conservative, is not someone who prizes America and works to perpetuate its greatness, but is rather someone who has bought into the lie of liberalism: that all cultures are equal.
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I agree with you, 911Infidel. While our "leaders" fight the GWOT, Muslims are entrenching themselves in the West and working relentlessly (through the UN and the OIC, principally) to undermine free speech, both here and in Europe; their goal is to make criminal any speech that disparages Islam, any speech that tells the truth about Islam. Meanwhile, our "leaders" welcome with open arms Muslim immigrants to our shores to further erode and destabilize American culture. Our "leaders" need to be taken to the woodshed for a good smacking.
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It seems that most of us don't understand that Islam is not exactly a religion that must be respected. It's one, ugly, ball of wax that cannot be separated. Legal, social, cultural and religious are bonded because they are inseparable. We separate those concepts here and that is what is going to do us in if we do not educate ourselves. Too many are willing to accept political correctness or enforce their political correctness on others. All the 'isms' are beginning to form around Islam. Slowly, but surely all the hate mongers began to find each other. They are now in positions of power. CIA, WH, State, Justice, etc. and we are arguing the finer points of Islam. It's time we recognized it as treason and treated it as such.
JohnDuncan1 911infidel LOL That's rich dude. That's called taqyiya..cultural lying. The nuclear program in Iran goes on unabated except by a samll explosion at Fordow and Stuxnet and its varient. But you go on thinking that way. Oh and you ignored the part about that whole nuclear program is all about bringing about the Mahdi? Yeah. You sure don't know squat about the subject.
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The reality is that Islam first declared war on us in the late 17th century. We fought the Barbary Wars in the early 18th century as a response to the Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast of North Africa attacking our ships. They made it a habit to attack any ships that were not Muslim. They would take non-Muslims to sell as slaves, or offer to ransom them back to their families.
The Barbary States demanded that the U.S. pay tribute (protection money) to them before they would stop their piracy. When Thomas Jefferson asked the Tripoli Ambassador to the U.K. what gave his country the right to make such demands the Ambassador replied that the right was found in the Koran. Muslims had the right, and duty, to attack any nation that has not submitted to Allah.
That's what we're dealing with. Things haven't changed since that time. All that has changed are the tactics, the weapons and the weak Western politicians who are more afraid of getting some bad press from standing up to our enemies than they are of us losing our freedoms.
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Oops. Got the centuries wrong. That should have read:
"The Reality is that Islam first declared war on us (the United States) in the late 18th century. We fought the Barbary Wars in the early 19th century as a response to the Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast of North Africa attacking our ships."
Sorry about that.
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Well said 911Infidel. Dear leader is anything but war weary. How can one be weary when one is on permanent vacation while our troops are fighting in increasingly obnoxious and dangerous situations?
Cotton does mean well as many who recognize the islamic part do- but the key here is islam. Jihad is all they know, all they teach, all they live for. There is no such thing as a radical muslim. They are either followers of their ideology or they are apostates.
What makes this so hard is that our military are fighting the physical jihad over there, but too many are blind to the very real stealth jihad over here. So our troops come home from war and find a whole new war over here. And you are SO right. They are using our Constitution against us, only to tear it up and replace it with sharia.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-H-torep4
Cotton full CPAc 2013 speech.
People talking in background .
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Muslims are natural conservative voters. We're not at war with Muslims.
In fact, Congress hasn't declared war against anyone for 60 years so we're not at war with anyone.
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@JohnDuncan1 You do not read, do you. thereligionofpeace com, memritv org, jihadwatch org, faithfreedom org, politicalislam com, prophetofdoom net, zombieitme com, vladtepesblog com, barenakedislam com, islammonitor org, atlasshrugs2000 typepad com, colonelrobertneville blogspot com etc, etc, etc...
@Colonel Neville @JohnDuncan1 Your right Colonel. Either he doesn't read or reads but doesn't understand or is just a propagandist for Islam and the left. I vote for propagandist since he could have been spouting all this nonsense on any main stream media news show.
@deTocqueville1 @cabensg @Colonel Neville @JohnDuncan1
Actually you're being to kind, but it's a much needed trait we should all aspire to.
@cabensg @Colonel Neville @JohnDuncan1 He is a Paulbot so his view of international events is somewhat blinkered, to be kind.
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@JohnDuncan1Congress isn't the subject...And so what? Islam is most definitely at war against us. You obviously haven't studied the subject much. Islam has been at war against the world for 1400 years. And how many of those "conservative" Muslims are playing the same game as Suhail Khan? Its called maruna, kitman and taqyiya.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 The term taqiyya does not exist in Sunni jurisprudence. In the Sunni view, denying your faith under duress is "only at most permitted and not under all circumstances obligatory
@BattleCry @911infidel @JohnDuncan1 You are mistaken. You should do a little more study on the topic. You can call it maruna. But it still remains as discussed in this excerpt from Raymond Ibrahim
"Islam must seem a paradoxical religion to non-Muslims. On the one hand, it is constantly being portrayed as the religion of peace; on the other, its adherents are responsible for the majority of terror attacks around the world. Apologists for Islam emphasize that it is a faith built upon high ethical standards; others stress that it is a religion of the law. Islam's dual notions of truth and falsehood further reveal its paradoxical nature: While the Qur'an is against believers deceiving other believers—for "surely God guides not him who is prodigal and a liar"[1]—deception directed at non-Muslims, generally known in Arabic as taqiyya, also has Qur'anic support and falls within the legal category of things that are permissible for Muslims.
Taqiyya offers two basic uses. The better known revolves around dissembling over one's religious identity when in fear of persecution. Such has been the historical usage of taqiyya among Shi'i communities whenever and wherever their Sunni rivals have outnumbered and thus threatened them. Conversely, Sunni Muslims, far from suffering persecution have, whenever capability allowed, waged jihad against the realm of unbelief; and it is here that they have deployed taqiyya—not as dissimulation but as active deceit. In fact, deceit, which is doctrinally grounded in Islam, is often depicted as being equal—sometimes superior—to other universal military virtues, such as courage, fortitude, or self-sacrifice"
There is not one serious Islamic scholar or cleric who has declared war on the United States and Congress has not declared war on 'Islam' or indeed anyone for 60 years. So there is no war. There is just fearmongering and islamophobia that we're going to stamp out because Muslim Americans are good allies for the conservative cause and for ridding us of Democrats.
That's why Geller and her ilk are not welcome at CPAC.
@JohnDuncan1@911infidelKeep reaching out maybe they'll let you pay to be a dimmitude.
http://pameladeanne.blogspot.com/2012/04/america-is-headed-to-dimmitudehelp-save.html
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Taht's right...You "don't care" about empirical facts and ironically you care about the Hamass front group CAIR. You are an unread, incurious logical fallacy spouting lying left liberal phony and we all know it, as you do to. No, really. Colonel Neville.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Then you won't mind me calling Norquist a traitor for allowing CPAC to be infiltrated by stealth jihadis.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 Then you won't mind me defending Grover who i consider a friend and ally in the comments section
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@JohnDuncan1 LOL. What a weak response. Nope won't stop. And I'm going to keep on writing about it. Stay away from the GOP? How about drop dead? Does that work for you?
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel No it isn't its a made-up word to describe people who criticise the cult of death. And besides it isn't a phobia when they really are trying to kill people. Go ask the victims in the Ft Hood Massacre...or the families of the two soldiers killed in ARK.
Keep attacking Grover's wife because it just goes to show how low and hateful you are not to mention hurtful to Grover himself. We will not accept it so either cease doing it or stay away from the GOP
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Suhail Kahn also denied that there is Muslim brotherhood in the US. Do you have any idea who he is?
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 It's a good word and accurate. I dont care who invented it. I don't care about people's religious worship.They are all welcome into the fold. Muslims tend to be well educated and natural conservative allies. They used to vote for Bush until he started invading their lands and now they vote for Obama. We will get them voting GOP again if we respect them and understand them rather than denounce them.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Norquist is nothing but a jihadist enabler. He's no conservative so long as he continues to enable the jihadis.
There you go again with your liberal buzz word. CAIR invented that word. Its pure calumny.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 Grover has been a dedicated conservative activist for 30 years and is widely respected. For anyone to attack him or his wife is outrageous and not welcome at CPAC or indeed any conservative gathering. We are trying to reach out to American Muslims not spread Islamophobia
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@JohnDuncan1 Every serious Islamic scholar in the Middle East has supported the jihad against the US. WTF are you talking about. I read their translated speeches constantly. Geller isn't welcome because she nailed Suhal Khan and Norquits for being the stealth jihadists that they are.
Islamophobia? LOL. That's rich.
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@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 Islam is not at war with America. You've got more chance of being struck by lightening than being killed by an islamic terrorist. Also, the United States is funding Islamic terrorists in Syria and Libya. They're useful allies and hardy fighters. They were against the soviets too and the United States government radicalized them by distributing jihadi text books in afghanistan (look it up). In many ways radical islam is a creation of the West.
Most muslims are good people and natural conservative voters. Some of the best Tea Party activists are Muslims who believe in religious liberty.
@PeterLeaman1 @JohnDuncan1 @MacWell @911infidel Peter?, is it?
Well Peter, I have a question for you. Can you actually compare a people with the ideology of Islam, who have no compunction at the killing the innocent men, women, and children that Islam has stacked up over the years, as compared to a civilized nation/religion/system of government, that police it's adherents to conform with the natural laws of humanity?
Really?
You wish to make that argument?
@PhillyCon @JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Once again a non-sequiter. Have you bothered to read about the subject that you are trying to talk about? Answer: No you haven't. You haven't a clue. Come back when you get one.
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@deTocqueville1 @JohnDuncan1 @911infidel It hurt just to read these guy's comments. The cluelessness is out of control.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Have you ever met or spoken with a Christian from the Middle East? Especially, a minority Christian such as a Copt or the Assyrians in Lebanon?
@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Tell that to the Christians and Jews in Muslim countries! You guys have a hard time staying on point and should all study the various forms of fallacious argumet as you fall into those traps constantly.
@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Here we go with the brown people crap. You argue like a liberal. Losing an argument? Well, then lets start using emotions. You hate brown people with funny names. I'm sure we hate children and education and hate the poor and the elderly. That's what's next right. 911 tore your ass a new one so just give up and save face. Too late.
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@JohnDuncan1 @MacWell @911infidel John, there is no point arguing with people like 911Infidel. Read his past blogs, they are all about hating on Islam, as a whole. No common sense left in 911Infidel. You question them and it turns in to you hating on soldiers or America. You ask them about drone attacks and the government aiding rebels, then it comes back to you hate on soldiers and America again. They just sound like Democrats who call anyone questioning their policies or Presidents as 'racist'. It's a joke to be honest.
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@MacWell @JohnDuncan1 @911infidel I don't hate America. I hate the government in DC. They are not America.
@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel I just have one question for you John; Why do you hate America so much?
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 Why won't you talk about the drone strikes and the murder of Pakistani civilians? Do you think that's a cause for them to hate the American gov't headed by the drone striker in chief, Obama?
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@911Infidel @JohnDucan1 This is what the arab spring is all about- wanting all of this back.... https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/543733_4888599806247_2092377043_n.jpg
The Third Jihad is to gain the rest of the world for islam
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Try not diverting from the subject and stay focused. I know that seems hard to you...but give it a shot. The subject is the Third Great Jihad.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel dear leader is a pos' I'll go along with that. But what about all the Christians being murdered by muslims every day? What do people worshiping in their churches do to deserve what muslims do to them?
Face it. These people hate because they follow blindly after an evil ideology.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 And the US gov't has not murdered anyone? no civilians droned to death recently in Pakistan with Obama ordering it? Hmm? Oh, they don't matter because they're brown and have muslim names
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel LOL That's rich dude. That's called taqyiya..cultural lying. The nuclear program in Iran goes on unabated except by a samll explosion at Fordow and Stuxnet and its varient. But you go on thinking that way. Oh and you ignored the part about that whole nuclear program is all about bringing about the Mahdi? Yeah. You sure don't know squat about the subject.
Never attacked anyone? Tell that to the families of the Marines and the French soldiers killed in Lebanon or the families of Col Higgims or Bill Buckley. Or maybe you could explain that to the Sunnis that are being murdered by the Iranian proxies Hibollah and the Baji. Or maybe you could explain that to the families of Green Party members who were tortured and executed in the 2009 Green Revolution? Or how about the family of Neda?
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 The Iranian leader has a fatwa against atomic weapons and anyone who goes against it risks execution. Their nuclear project is to generate electricty and relieve their dependence on oil. They have every right to do this under international law. Iran has never invaded or attacked anyone
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Which wouldn't stop nothing. There is two branches of Islam: Shia and Sunni. Iran has vowed to use atomic weapons once they get them in order to plunge the world into chaos which is in keeping with their MUSLIM eschatology. Without Saudi, Turkey would take over the Sunni world. Or maybe you missed the headlines regarding the Arab Spring? Did it ever occur to you that the Arab Spring is the first step in reviving the Ottoman Empire?
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Don't worry, sad sack.
We will be fighting them here, on our own soil. At least some of us will, I suppose you'll be bending over for them.
Better wise up and quit slinging your ignorance.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 If the US withdrew their support from that disgusting regime in Saudi Arabia it would collapse and there would be a revolution.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Once again a diversion on your part. That the US backs up Saudi is not the issue. That the Saudis continue to export their Wahabbiist brand of Islam IS the issue. It is from Saudi Arabia that the Arabs came from who conquered large parts of the middle east and are respionsible for the deaths of 600 million people. The US has NOTHING to do with that. Islam DOES have everything to do with that. Now go buy a clue.
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@JohnDuncan1@911infidelThey may believe in religious liberty for now, so they can turn public schools into madrassas and build more mosques, but once they become stronger, they will take over just as they have in Europe. Just as they have in Deerborn and Murphysboro. You might want to read Muslim Brotherhood's Process of instituting Sharia.
@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 And who spreads the Wahabism? The US backed government in Saudi Arabia.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Creates more hatred? Oh you mean like all the kill verses in the Koran and the Hadiths? Or do you mean verses like" The ebnd of the world cannot come until all the Jews are killed. Until the rocks and the trees cry out "Oh Muslim there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him".
Huh? Muslims got plenty of hate comming from their own books...and from their Mosques and Imans. 80% of which are Salifist or Wahahabi. Get with the program.
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@911infidel @JohnDuncan1 I am not belittling the victims of terrorism. I want it to stop as much as anyone but it won't be stopped by invading Muslim lands and having a perpetual war against them. This just creates more hatred. The 9/11 Hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and were not happy with United States military bases being in their country.
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@JohnDuncan1 @911infidel Wrong again. Islam IS at war with us. But you just go right on with that dellusion of yours. And you want want to test out your "lightning" theory on the 20,000+ victims of Islamic terror since 9-11. Or the 3,000 victims of Islamic terror on 9-11. Most Muslims for your information are sympathetic to the jihadis. They'll either give zakat to the jihadis or verbal support of some sort or another...since "jihad" - war against the unbelievers is incumbent on ALL Muslims. That jihad can be civilizational jihad or quitaal. You might try reading up on the topic.
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