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I wanted to separate out this portion of the Q&A from tonight’s speech in Waterloo, IA. Perry was asked a question on illegal immigration, and since that seems to be a weak spot I was interested to hear his answer:

I think Perry is great on the border, which is the most important part of dealing with illegal immigration at this point. However I wanted to know what his ideas are on dealing with the current illegal population after we solve the problem of securing the border. But, he never got around to addressing that and it makes me wonder if he will use ‘securing the border’ as a dodge on the deeper questions of illegal immigration such as e-verify, amnesty, etc. I agree securing the border must happen first, but then what?

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  • http://twitter.com/DannyFromWI DJ DeMent

    Then the DREAM Act. -_-

  • http://twitter.com/DannyFromWI DJ DeMent

    Then the DREAM Act. -_-

  • Anonymous

    I agree RS, securing the border needs to be followed by what will be done next and what policies will be changed to get people here illegally to leave.

    • Anonymous

      Our borders can never be completely secured – it is a red herring issue. It is sovereignty that must be defended first, borders second. The only solution, proven throughout history, is to make it impossible to live here without a visa, green card, or some other form of LEGAL immigration.

      Even if there were a 20 foot wall around America, , subversives can simply come here on a tourist or work visa and not go home.

      Other countries actively track and remove illegals. Not only does America fail to pursue expired visa holders and other non-citizens, we actively encourage them to come and stay with; drivers licenses, free public schooling, college scholarships, food stamps, housing assistance, medical benefits, sanctuary, cash jobs, and special protection under “civil rights” law.

      We are absolute fools – the whole world laughs at us for placing no value on our citizenship and sovereignty.

      • http://twitter.com/Darren101699 Darren McDaniel

        I think your wrong to a degree. We as a nation do place a value on citizenship and sovereignty. Our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence Assess the value of Citizenship. As for Sovereignty, that is the free right of our nation to inforce its laws within its borders, but the LIBERAL(SOCIALIST) left doesn’t believe in teaching it, they want a one world nation so that there is no such thing as freedom. As for Citizenship, it has and always should be FREE, just as it was when our ancestors came to America. Freedom is a right to all Citizens around the world in their respected countries because it is a right granted to them by GOD and not by governments. We know that here in America but again, the LIBERAL(SOCIALIST) left wont teach GOD given rights, because they dont believe in the POWER and Authority of GOD, but only in the Authority of One Man over another. This mindset of the LIBERALS is no different than trying to impose SLAVERY, by legal means through government force of power.

        • Anonymous

          Citizenship is “free” if one follows the legal process (except for processing fees).

          However, a nation will not survive if anyone and everyone who sets foot here is free to become a citizen. That is called colonization not immigration.

          I say we place no value on sovereignty or citizenship because we fail to enforce our immigration laws, recruit anti-American subversives through our legal immigration process, and, we openly encourage and subsidize illegal occupation. Not just liberals do this – we as nation let it happen.

          • Anonymous

            You are 100% correct. My own Mother came here illegally and my Dad became infatuated with her and married her. She did not speak 1 word of English so it couldn’t have been love. That was about 39 years ago.

        • Anonymous

          Absolute baloney.

      • http://twitter.com/Darren101699 Darren McDaniel

        I think your wrong to a degree. We as a nation do place a value on citizenship and sovereignty. Our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence Assess the value of Citizenship. As for Sovereignty, that is the free right of our nation to inforce its laws within its borders, but the LIBERAL(SOCIALIST) left doesn’t believe in teaching it, they want a one world nation so that there is no such thing as freedom. As for Citizenship, it has and always should be FREE, just as it was when our ancestors came to America. Freedom is a right to all Citizens around the world in their respected countries because it is a right granted to them by GOD and not by governments. We know that here in America but again, the LIBERAL(SOCIALIST) left wont teach GOD given rights, because they dont believe in the POWER and Authority of GOD, but only in the Authority of One Man over another. This mindset of the LIBERALS is no different than trying to impose SLAVERY, by legal means through government force of power.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_43ZDJ3DBJVSJ2JOUONWG7TNYYQ Daniel

        You are so right. I agree me must secure the border so that those deported cannot get a good nights rest and then return. The bigger problem is that the majority in this country no longer have the strength of character to value our citizenship. It will take real courage and leadership to re-kindle the sense of National pride necessary for this country to survive. The left will throw everything they have at anyone who takes a step in that direction. I hope it is not a challenge bigger than what this country is now capable of.

  • Anonymous

    I agree RS, securing the border needs to be followed by what will be done next and what policies will be changed to get people here illegally to leave.

  • Anonymous

    AmericanborninCanada asked about E verify the other night and it would be a great question asked of Gov. Perry.

    • mike morrison

      He’s already been asked and he doesn’t support it…nor does he support Arizona’s attempts at securing their borders.

      • Anonymous

        Mike…that’s true but he must be asked “why” he doesn’t support it…

      • Anonymous

        Mike…that’s true but he must be asked “why” he doesn’t support it…

    • patriciacala

      Now I am going to Google E verify and get better informed. I have a daughter in a border state and she can’t take a day off because she will be replaced by an illegal immigrant. She has helped them in many ways, as any moral human being would. They were grateful and had her to Baptisims and family dinners. She was the only English speaking person there – but she wants to keep her job so she can earn her own way. If the statement is true that “they” do jobs that Americans woun’t, ask the American unemployed if they are turning down jobs.

  • Anonymous

    I was hoping that he would come out clear on his immigration stance due to what I have read from Tom Decrado (?) saying he is for allow illegal immigration to mass blanket it and make those illegals into legals…
    I am glad he wants border security, BUT it does not clarify his stance on illegal immigration. And I “NO LIKE” unclear answers.

  • Anonymous

    Anchor baby status? Sanctuary cities? Financial and social aid? Refusal to assimilate, language? NAFTA? Prison populations? on and on. You’re right RS, the securing of the borders is critical and a top priority but, as you say, then what. Answers and positions are needed.

  • Anonymous

    The Trans-Texas Corridor is a Mexican-US highway and it was Perry pushing it! The Dream Act he signed into law has absolutely NO oversight of any kind!

    We all fought HARD to stop Bush and McCain with their Shamnesty bill but, we’re supposed to turn around and nominate Perry!? I don’t friggin’ think so.

    Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem http://on.wsj.com/oK4nGv

    Rick Perry’s Record as Governor of Texas http://bit.ly/hGJXVd

    The Phony Right-Wing, Part 5: James Richard ‘Rick’ Perry http://bit.ly/qRJo3B

    Does GOP want Perrys DREAM act too? http://bit.ly/lmyB3R

    14 Reasons Why Rick Perry Would Be A Bad President http://bit.ly/pLx52g

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      ““we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. ” Would these be the same upstanding fine citizens who are flying their Green white and red?

      I don’t know if this is a non biased site (I’m trying hard to be fair) but this was interesting as well:
      http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/16/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-says-his-border-security-efforts-le/

      • Anonymous

        Maryland passed it’s form of the Dream Act with provisions for in-state tuition, The Voters were so PO’ed they have now been able to get it on the Ballot to over turn the Law.
        Fighting back one step at a time against the Progressives

      • mike morrison

        This is what I’ve been trying to point out about Perry all along. He is NOT a conservative, he’s a big government, globalist GOPer who will say anything during a campaign and then do what he really wants to do after we can’t do anything to stop him. He also has perfected blaming rules or Congress instead of taking responsibility or spelling out his own views to voters.

        • Anonymous

          Palin is going to wipe up the floor with him.

    • Anonymous

      I can think of about 17 trillion reasons why O’ is a bad President.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

    RS you are catching on to Ricky’s trademark. He will always talk border but never enact or promote a relatively easy solution in E-Verify,criminalizing doc fraud,etc, as the biggest money path leads back to a cabal of large GOP donors that are all about cheap labor.

    • Anonymous

      That simply isn’t so.

      In the 2007 legislative session, Perry signed House Bill 126 increasing penalties for document fraud, Perry signed an employer sanctions bill (House Bill 1196), Perry signed anti-Human Trafficking bills (HB 1372, 4009, SB 11) and he increasing funding for border security (HB1). Source: http://www.txcc.org/illegal-immigration

      Bush’s puppet Kay Bailey Hutchison attacked Perry on E-Verify in last year’s primary debate. He said it wouldn’t make a difference in Texas. Here’s why: while many businesses in Texas do use E-Verify, all of Texas uses the I-9 employment eligibility program which E-Verify depends upon to verify workers. E-Verify has an accuracy problem that needs addressing and costs about $150 per verification which might be a problem for some small businesses. E-Verify is not a silver bullet or as reliable as the I-9.

      Perry has long opposed the Bush-McCain-Obama “pathway to citizenship” amnesty nonsense. Here are three links via NumbersUSA: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/, http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/,
      http://foxnewsinsider.com/2010/09/22/governor-rick-perry-on-the-report-of-a-new-amnesty-plan-for-illegals/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

    Texas Ruling-Class Immigration Enforcement Blocking:

    • poljunkie

      Hey Liz, I asked you a few days ago- who do you like better so far, as far as candidates/qualities?

  • Anonymous

    Rick, if you are elected,will we still have to press 1 for English?

    • Anonymous

      Yeah… that has really got to go. It irks the crap out of me.

  • Anonymous

    Rick, if you are elected,will we still have to press 1 for English?

  • Anonymous

    As of the weekend, I hear two distinct differences in the “leaders”. Bachmann wants action now, Perry wants musts….,at this time I want Bachmann. The USA citizen want action and not words, 2012 is an all or nothing election, we either keep the USA or loose it.
    Bachmann/West

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Kawasaki/1798183858 Dave Kawasaki

      Loose it on who?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Kawasaki/1798183858 Dave Kawasaki

      Loose it on who?

      • Anonymous

        If LIAR Obama and the Progressives maintain power into 2013 the USA will become a 2nd or 3rd World Nation.

    • Anonymous

      Is that when you think that our currency will fail, and we will be begging for the farm jobs and housing that the Mexicans have now?

      • Anonymous

        Destroying the currency is sad but I am sure it is part of a plan within the NWO. Control the currency and you control your destiny. If we want a strong Dollar we must export something other than the Dollar. And by the way, all those “experts” that want the trillions kept overseas by USA Corporation to return to the USA. The trillions are making a great return because the Dollar has been devalued 20% this year. So those trillions have increased 20%. Why buy Dollars when it on thw way down, keep it in Euro’s , Franc’s, Yen…etc

        • Anonymous

          Or gold. What is it at now, something like $1700 Fed notes?

          • Anonymous

            Gold is trading around $1740.00 plus……I see in a panic it moving to $8,000.00 then correcting to $4,900.00 to $5,500.00

            • Anonymous

              I’m no expert, but the people I have listened to say basically the same thing. They haven’t been wrong yet.

              What will inflation look like then? If a gallon of gas is $4 a gallon at $1740, will it be $12 a gallon at around $5k? Maybe, maybe not, but wheat is making a comeback in the US. I just drove past miles of wheat fields here in Oregon the other week. Haven’t seen those for about 25 years.

              • Anonymous

                Gold does not have to be dollar price adjusted like other commodities, it is a safe haven and driven by fear and lack of confidence in fiat paper. Since the Dollar is the world reserve currency, all Nations or Corporations that want to buy wheat futures…etc… on the exchanges must first buy Dollars to complete the purchase. There are 571,000 troy oz of gold in a billion Dollars, now multiply that by a thousand to get a trillion dollars worth of gold. My Chinese calculator is not big enough but I believe there are 4.5 billion troy oz of gold above ground. So it is approximately worth 7.6 trillion dollars….about the same LIAR Obama has added the the USA debt since taking office. I stand to be corrected due to my limited calculator.

                • Anonymous

                  I get how the world reserve currency works in trading commodities. I was just referring to inflation as it pertains to wheat. The price has gone up enough to bring back a market for it, in Oregon, which hasn’t existed for the better part of 20 years since “free trade” was passed. My family used to farm wheat, but got out when the price dropped us out of competition with other countries. It is possible that subsidies had something to do with it as well. I don’t know.

                  Free markets are great, aren’t they? :)

                • Anonymous

                  I have heard that people need to be careful in buying gold. Apparently they are over selling gold. In other words, what they are buying doesn’t exist. So, apparently, you don’t want to buy gold that you can’t hold in your hand.

  • Anonymous

    As of the weekend, I hear two distinct differences in the “leaders”. Bachmann wants action now, Perry wants musts….,at this time I want Bachmann. The USA citizen want action and not words, 2012 is an all or nothing election, we either keep the USA or loose it.
    Bachmann/West

  • David Robertson

    Agreed that it would be nice to hear a comprehensive answer on this, but I agree with his stance that border security comes first. It is so bad down there now that we could have major problems– especially if their next President is bought by the cartels. It is highly likely that will be the case.
    Furthermore, the issue of what to do with those that are already here is all the more complicated if the flow of illegal immigration is not stopped. Many of these people are looking for a safer, better place–BUT many are not. Many are looking to take advantage of the system or run from trouble.
    I’m married to a Mexican woman whose Parents legally immigrated and took citizenship. We have family property in Mexico, but won’t visit due to the safety risks. I pray for those good people down there caught in this.
    Nevertheless, my position is you come over legally or don’t come. Our sytem here is already weighed down, and if we don’t get some sanity on our borders and sovereignty, immigration really won’t be a problem because there will be nothing left worth immigrating to. That’s a fact.

    • Anonymous

      I like the part about “…..you come over legally or you don’t come”.
      Question: I’m assuming the cartels you are referring to are drug cartels. Wouldn’t legalization eliminate this?

      • David Robertson

        In short, no.
        What? Do you think they are going to raise their hands up and say “here, let someone legitimate take this business now that it’s legal”.
        I don’t see the parallels to prohibition and mobs that some make. I understand libertarians and others believe in this from a freedom perspective, but freedom is nothing without guiding moral principle. I have spent too much time in this matter personally working in the recovery side of this insidious business. Regardless of one’s faith or lack thereof, I stand with our founding fathers in the belief that this freedom we enjoy is nothing if we don’t stand up for morality in our homes, communities, and yes, our government.
        This comment should bring all the libertarians out of the woodwork. Love you guys, but this is where we part ways. (oh yes, and on foreign policy too).

        • Anonymous

          How can you not see the parallels? It is exactly the same. The same prohibition, the same criminal element exploitation, the same business, the same wasted legal resources. You say you spent too much time working in the recovery side and I assume you have earned a living doing so, therefore you are also one who has a horse in this race and, if it were to be legalized, your talents would not be needed. As far as the “morality” issue is concerned where is the morality in branding people as criminals for using something that we all know a large percentage of people use, people from ALL walks of life. It is not immoral and the only thing that makes it illegal is that we brand it illegal.

          Yes they are going to raise their hands and say “here,let someone legitimate take this business now that it’s legal” because there would be no more money in it.

          • Anonymous

            US troops are helping grow the drugs, then supplying the cartels. Maybe the CIA helps with that, I don’t know. The FBI and ATF runs guns to them, and makes deals to exchange information on other cartels for a free pass to ship drugs into the country.

            This has all been in the main stream news now for a while. Government needs the drugs to be illegal, and doesn’t want private sector competition. It was the same with the drug “alcohol”. I think that government conceded on alcohol because the black market got to big, and the gangsters were making too much money and were too heavily armed.

            What they are doing now is much more lucrative. They borrow fake money from the Fed to run wars that provide a military labor force to grow and control drugs, as well as other things, while putting the tax payers on the hook for it. Then they supply the cartels while leaving the borders mostly open, then make deals to allow the drugs into the country. Then when people get caught with “their” drugs, they go to prison, which is a huge corporate/government industry in itself.

            The whole time, they get to build up the police state in the US, continue the wars in the middle east, shut down our economy while destroying the currency, get reasons to restrict gun ownership, create a tattle tale society, put cameras on every street corner, spy on the American citizens without warrant, search us without warrant, arrest us without charge, detain us without notice to our family for up to six months, get away with swat teaming raw milk co-ops, kick down our doors in the middle of the night and shoot our dogs because we might have marijuana, take our children from us and farm them out to strangers, ……………etc.

            That’s all I could come up with off the top of my head, and quickly.

            The point is that there is a point to the drug war.

            • Anonymous

              I’m going to bed.

              • Anonymous

                Good night. Don’t let the swat team bite.

            • Anonymous

              The drug war is an abysmal failure. We should focus our efforts on recovery for those who want it.

              • Anonymous

                We should also just leave people alone. Let them succeed, or fail and learn from it.

                • Anonymous

                  Yes consequences need to be left to happen. Hittting bottom and as a result having a spiritual awakening is a blessing.

          • David Robertson

            I’m tempted to respond regarding the drugs, but I don’t want to prolong a conversation that has no end because we are entrenched on our position. Let’s just say we disagree, and that’s ok. Because I’m sure there is plenty other things we probably agree on, and I support closed borders. I think we can stop at that common point. I will say this though. I never made a dime helping out. It’s all volunteer, my friend. I make a living doing other things, and a fine living doing it. The only horse I have in the race is a moral one. Most of the country rides that same horse.

            • Anonymous

              Spoken like a gentleman, agreed.

          • Anonymous

            His talents would still be needed. When using a substance makes your life unmanageable you need help with recovery. I look at this not as a moral issue but as an issue of what works versus what does not work. I think that there are people that can casually/recreationally use substances and there are people who cannot. I don’t think drug users should be labeled as criminals unless they actually commit a crime. Being under the influence should not be used as an excuse for bad behavior. One is responsible and accountable for all of their choices whether or not they are intoxicated. Getting intoxicated is a choice.

  • Anonymous

    I think that Ron Paul would actually agree with his position on border protection. He would just bring our troops home to do it.

  • Anonymous

    Can anybody,confirm was he(Perry) the cheif of staff for AL GORE..in early 90’s
    If so……..this needs to be confronted right……NOW…!!!!

    • Anonymous

      FYI
      Rick Perry, who entered the Texas legislature as a Democrat in 1984, served as Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Chairman in the 1988 presidential campaign. Soon after the campaign, Perry switched parties and was elected Texas Agriculture Commissioner as a Republican in 1990. “Going through that (Gore experience) was part of what started me through the process of changing parties in 1989,” Perry later said. “I came to my senses.”

      At a 1999 campaign event during his successful run for Texas Governor, a Dallas Morning News reporter asked Perry about his previous work for Al Gore. “I certainly got religion,” Perry said. “I think he’s gone to hell.” You can listen to an audio recording of the exchange here.

      And while Gore was a moderate at the time on some issues (abortion, gun control, prayer in schools), he was already a committed environmentalist. 11 years before Perry chaired Gore’s presidential campaign in Texas, in 1976, Gore held the first Congressional hearings on climate change. Gore’s reputation on environmental issues was so solidified by 1988 that the first President Bush took to the habit of calling him ozone man.
      http://www.enviroknow.com/2011/06/23/rick-perry-al-gore-1988/

    • Anonymous

      Interesting question, just looked it up. Perry at one time was a Dem and served as Gore’s Texas campaign director back in 1988. Since then he has changed his association particularly in light of Gores stand on “global warming”. Perry picked up the moniker “political chameleon” as a result. I’m sure there’s more to it so , yes, further clarification is in order.

      • Anonymous

        Both searching…..spread the word…NO RINO’S, at this time of night I say Perry and Romney are not Conservatives, they are just nice guys.

        • Anonymous

          Nice guys like a fox. :)

  • Frederick

    Perry is Bush in a Edgar suit on immigration.

  • Anonymous

    Well that explains why Jeb Bush is so hot for Perry .
    Pandejos both of them.
    We should start judging Rs by their position on illegal alien invasion.
    If they try to BS around the issue, we know they’re just younger McCains.

  • mike morrison

    Watch this…not even going to comment on it. From 2007-2008 campaign.

    • Anonymous

      Most of what he says is pretty reasonable, yet I don’t actually think he would do anything different than Bush or Barry.

      If we brought home the troops and put a few drones on the border, we could wipe out them there Mexicans. :)

      Actually the drug cartels probably wouldn’t be too difficult to take out. Government needs them to grow the police state.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YL4YL72TFJPMLVU3TXPLJ4HWHY Johnry

        Rick Perry is trying to portray himself as a “good conservative” so that if he enters the race he will be accepted by Christian conservatives. If Rick Perry did win the Republican nomination, he would have a great chance of winning the general election because he would very much be an “establishment” candidate.

        But before Republicans get too excited about Rick Perry, there are a whole lot of things that they should know about him.

        http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president

    • Anonymous

      Wow. Thanx for posting this vid.
      Perry comes out as a total jerk on this issue. The guy just wants to keep the borders open and unsecured, plain and simple , and then dances a clueless jig around a pie-in-the-sky ” solution” .
      The dudes a phoney. I don’t have a good feeling about him.

    • Anonymous

      I think I saw a piece of skin hanging from the back of his neck. I wonder, if someone pulled on it, would it actually be Bush under there, or Barry. Tough call after seeing the picture of him with acorn. Though he does have Bush’s demeanor down pretty well.

    • Anonymous

      Wow. As Glenn Beck would say “in his OWN words”. Thanks for the link.

      Pretty much answers the question…..He just splits it into two and doesn’t answer one.

  • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

    There’s Perry’s fumble dance around ILLEGALS from south of the Border… then there’s Perry’s affinity for OUTLAWS from THIS side:

    http://networkedblogs.com/lF9uj

    • Anonymous

      Well well well….let the vetting begin :O

      • Anonymous

        That picture was from 2001 right? Are you impressed with it? Notice how Perry looks about 10 years younger? Was Acorn even part of the American lexicon then? No it wasn’t. We didn’t start hearing negative things about Acorn until long after that.

        I’ve seen some weak things before, but this picture is what muscle atrophy looks like. It’s also been shown by a couple of others already at this site, and if it hasn’t already been summarily dismissed, it should be.

        • Anonymous

          I think it’s from 2005 signing of the housing bill. Correct me if I’m wrong.

          • Anonymous

            I think it’s from 2001.

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              It is from 2005… and I have other “interesting” photo ops of the gov, from MUCH MORE RECENT.

              NOTE: shill, you are fast showing yourself to be a ‘conservative’ clone of fine upstanding journalists such as ‘Tingles’ Mathews and Al ‘MUCH’ Sharpton. You chasing my every post for any perceived chance to hike your little weinerdog leg and relieve yourself of some of your pent up bile and personal problems… isn’t going to look good on your “Clear and Balanced” resume when you go to apply for a moderator’s position.

              But you go ahead, little fella. Like the old proverb says, “The dogs, they bark and bark. But the Caravan just keeps on rolling”.

              Sackett

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              It is from 2005… and I have other “interesting” photo ops of the gov, from MUCH MORE RECENT.

              NOTE: shill, you are fast showing yourself to be a ‘conservative’ clone of fine upstanding journalists such as ‘Tingles’ Mathews and Al ‘MUCH’ Sharpton. You chasing my every post for any perceived chance to hike your little weinerdog leg and relieve yourself of some of your pent up bile and personal problems… isn’t going to look good on your “Clear and Balanced” resume when you go to apply for a moderator’s position.

              But you go ahead, little fella. Like the old proverb says, “The dogs, they bark and bark. But the Caravan just keeps on rolling”.

              Sackett

              • Anonymous

                Dick:

                A “moderator” is the last thing I want to be. I’m a writer and business owner. I don’t know what you are. You have some serious mental and emotional issues though, whatever you are. Get a life. You might consider a hobby as well.
                You are pitiful to the nth degree. I feel like I’m responding to a virus of some sort.

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              Oh, and one more suggestion.

              When you go out of your way to be a confrontive little ass, don’t “think”… KNOW.

              Some folks will eat you alive with FACTS and TRUTH.

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              Oh, and one more suggestion.

              When you go out of your way to be a confrontive little ass, don’t “think”… KNOW.

              Some folks will eat you alive with FACTS and TRUTH.

          • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

            You are correct, williamm… and acorn was already WELL ESTABLISHED on the radar of several watch groups by then.

        • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

          “Was Acorn even part of the American lexicon then?”

          As a matter of fact, yes.

          As I mentioned in my suggestion to you, below… the difference between men and boys ain’t just the size of their toys.

          You chase my every post ~ out of petty personal acrimony.

          Every person I dealt with as a chief moderator here I did so out of library of facts and knowledge of the Truth in the matter at hand… every time.

          When something a person posted sounded wrong or even just felt ‘rotten’, if I didn’t KNOW the FACTS… I researched and investigated several sources deep, to make sure I did before I dealt with the post/person.

          I’ll even help you along in your search for the FACTS on this one:
          http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

          • Anonymous

            Yo Sackett. I don’t give a damn about you. You are nothing but an angry pile of manure to me. I think you have that chasing thing backwards.
            Kiss my ass and get over it. Then shove Sarah Palin up yours.

            You’re an idiot. I would have preferred to say this on the front page you little weasel. Do you think anyone read your little snipe, way back here?

            The only thing you can eat alive is your own jealousy, CM Sackett of shit.
            You are eaten up with it.

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              Sign #2 of a fact-blind, truth-hating, gutless, self-loathing cur…

              When faced with facts ~
              1. Name call
              2. Blow up
              3. Get uselessly vulgar

              …the FACTS I’ve posted (on this, and every other thread I’ve ever been a part of) REMAIN.

              Jealousy?

              Of what? An intellectual giant, pillar of personal decency and integrity, and model of moral fiber and spine like yourself?

              It’s not likely. I’m not that drunk, and not ever likely to be (since I don’t drink).
              CM Sackett

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              “Do you think anyone read your little snipe, way back here?”

              LOfreakinLOUD!

              …you did.

            • http://doorwaybuck.com CM Sackett

              “Do you think anyone read your little snipe, way back here?”

              LOfreakinLOUD!

              …you did.

              • Anonymous

                1. I am not convinced it is a fact. I think it’s from he signing the in state tuition bill for immigrants in 2001. Your repeated affirmations to the contrary notwithstanding. Maybe if you print it out a few more times in all caps or something.

                2. I am not interested in your theoretics on how and why people act as they do. I would like to understand what your problem was/is in the first place. I was never anything other than a gentleman with you. You morphed into something of a much lower class for some reason unbekownst to me. I wonder if that happens every time someone tries to compliment you or disagree with you. I’m guessing the self-loathing belongs at your house. I am simply responding in kind to the man who started the bad behavior and who has now layered that initial behavior with more.

                3. I read this post in my e-mail professor. You know, when someone responds to you, you get an e-mail. That e-mail contains the contents of that response. If you need any other help with any other personal problem you have, please seek that help elswhere.

            • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

              Dude. This is way over the top here. I don’t mind you guys arguing, but getting personal like this is not allowed.

              I understand that things can get out of hand and you probably said this in the heat of the moment.

              That said, please refrain from comments like these.

              • Anonymous

                You’re right. I tried to erase it, but the system wouldn’t let me. I felt that he has been increasingly personal towards me as well and wanted him to release his latch on my ankles I guess. I don’t understand when or why it started. I apologize. Feel free to remove it all if you’d like. I don’t like it either.

  • mike morrison

    Skip to 2:40 and just listen and then compare to what he’s done in just ONE year.

  • mike morrison

    Debra Medina challenges Rick Perry’s record on immigration—Rick Perry doesn’t show, sends his senior policy advisor. Enjoy the truth being revealed.

    • Anonymous

      I think its time we make illegal immigration the defining issue of 2012, since it is affecting
      our country’s security and entitlement reforms,
      and thus the #1 issue= our economy+national debt .
      Lets make it the focus issue, just like the communists make abortion and gay marriage their litmus test for candidates.
      Ask candidates what they will DO about securing our country and illegal alien invasion.
      And when they BS us, excoriate them in the strongest terms.
      We don’t want another McShameless

  • Mark Smith

    Favorite new slam against Perry this morning: he’s an Radical Islamic lover and supports Sharia law.

    Boy there are loons.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YL4YL72TFJPMLVU3TXPLJ4HWHY Johnry

    Supporters of Texas Governor Rick Perry are not going to like this article at all. Right now, Republicans all over the United States are touting Rick Perry as the “Republican messiah” that is going to come charging in to save America from the presidency of Barack Obama. Many believe that if Rick Perry enters the race, he will instantly become the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in
    2012. Perry certainly looks the part and he knows how to give a good speech, but when ordinary Americans all over the country take a hard look at his record, they may not like what they see.

    The truth is that Rick Perry is a big-time globalist, he has raised taxes and fees in Texas numerous times, he has massively increased the size of government spending and government debt in Texas, he has been trying to ram the Trans-Texas Corridor down the throats of the Texas people and he tried to force young women all over Texas to be injected with the Gardasil vaccine. No, Rick Perry is not going to save America. In fact, he would likely be very, very similar to both Bush and Obama in a lot of ways.

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

    Last night somebody on Free Republic drug in the transcripts on Sara Palin on the I-issue. They pretty much place her in the enforce the law camp. This is why Perry can easily run as he is establishment-Ruling-Class and will be funded to the hilt…Sara is running alongside the process like a labrador.Her position on the Institution of Cheap Labor will ensure no money from big sources like Perry. I urge you to look at her promo vids. The images show Americans working, using their hands…hint,hint.

  • http://twitter.com/gothicreader JW

    I didn’t get this from his speech on illegal immigration that he was using the border security as an excuse.
    He was right that you can’t tackle the illegal population until you first secure your borders.
    I don’t think you’ll get any candidate that will say “WE WILL SHIP ALL ILLEGALS BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY”. Well, that wasn’t true – Tancredo more or less said that and look what happened to him. Another Ron Paul if you ask me, but different beliefs.

    We may not always agree with a candidate, but realistically you can’t expect them to ship all illegals back to their country. What I would say is that employers should pay a BIG penalty and even to the point of losing their license. Cities that ignore our laws on immigration should be penalized and stripped of their federal funds. This is where the majority of the problems is. Once you target the perpetrators then illegals will have no reason to come this country.

    But, to say or expect a candidate to vow of getting rid of illegals is unrealistic.

    Where is the common sense?

    • Anonymous

      The Citizens of Maryland are fighting back against the Sanctuary State issue and Dream Act:
      http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/05-671/

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

      Other states like MS, AL, GA,SC,OK AZ have taken steps to tackle the invasion problem. There is nothing sequential about this. Leaders must address now. The levers on ICE can be turned up and a plan to militarize the border at the FED level. The Chamber of Commerce blocks every effort to go after employers. That must be dealt with aggressively through whichever means is available. Where is the common sense in waiting to institute E-Verify? The SCOTUS Ruling gave states the power to do this. So what’s the hold-up? Oh wait…..I know.

    • Anonymous

      What we need to hear is that in addition to building the fence and protecting the border, we will enforce all of our immigration laws, we will take them all of welfare, no social services, no health care, no tax payer education for their children. And the 14th amendment doesn’t make their “anchor invaders” legal citizens of America. Enforce, Attrition and Deport.

    • Anonymous

      What we need to hear is that in addition to building the fence and protecting the border, we will enforce all of our immigration laws, we will take them all of welfare, no social services, no health care, no tax payer education for their children. And the 14th amendment doesn’t make their “anchor invaders” legal citizens of America. Enforce, Attrition and Deport.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so confused about Perry. Will the real Rick Perry please stand up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

    That’s what its going to take…CITIZEN-LED.

  • Anonymous

    Mexico is a very, very big problem. What’s this potential nonsense? He sounds like he refuses to go beyond securing the border. Eyes wide open, folks.

  • Anonymous

    Wow Scoop, you need some Perry supporters on this site. The comments are brutal. Also, I don’t think they are all Militant Palinistas. ;)

    I do believe Perry will be hit hard from the right on a few issues. This being one of them. I want to hear what Michelle Malkin thinks about a potential GOP presidential candidate that meets with La Raza. I doubt it will be pretty.

    Texas governor panders to ‘The Race’
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=1093408

    Let’s see how Governor Perry handles the vetting.

    • Anonymous

      Hard vetting is good. Soft vetting is bad. See what soft vetting has brought us?

  • puma_for_life

    My sister lives in Texas and she is always complaining about the illegal immigrant problem there. There seems to be no law enforcement of any kind. The drive without licenses or insurance and when they get stopped the police let them go without any kind of citation. The reason business is doing so well in Texas is they can hire illegal immigrants and nothing is done about it. If this is indicative of Perry’s policy toward illegals, then he is done. Another Bush.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

      There are now Hispanics in CA. wanting deportation..it’s pretty funny.Picked it up on the Standing with AZ FB page. It’s a ruling-class controlled issue. It needs to be BLOWN WIDE OPEN this election. Remember when BABS had a go at Sara…something about staying in Alaska?

      • poljunkie

        Liz, since you dislike Perry so much- who do you like?

    • Persephone

      “Another Bush.”

      Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney both endorsed Kay Baley Hutchinson to run against Perry in the last governors race there.

      The rift between the Bush dynasty and Perry dates back to the fact that Perry comes from a humble, poor-farmer background.
      Not the silver-spoon Northeastern Republican elitist background that G.W. Bush came from.

      • Anonymous

        Yet Perry still hobnobs with world political and banking elite at private, invitation only, meetings.

        • Persephone

          Yeah…to get their money.
          To get their money to help his state.

          Doesn’t mean he has sold his soul, or his state…or his country, to the bastards.

          Unless and until the Alex Jones crowd can come up with some hard evidence that Perry has joined some ‘secret society’ of globalists, Elmer…I am not buying into that line of diarrhea.

          • Anonymous

            If he went to meet secretly with the “global” elite, you think this was to get money for his state? I don’t think that I could buy into that.

            I do believe that the Logan Act applies here since he was in office at the time. Any specific conspiracy theory about what Perry has done coming from that meeting or any other secret meetings is just speculation. The problem is that when our elected official operate in secrecy, all we have is speculation and theories. That is why I support the Logan Act and think that people should be prosecuted for secret meetings with foreigners while in office.

            • Persephone

              Perry has made…no secret…about aggressively going after investment in his state, Elmer.
              No secret.
              From any source.
              Getting foreign investments into US soil makes those capital investments subject to our laws….while creating jobs and increasing tax revenues.

              Give me an alpha dog hunter-gatherer like Perry, any day, over the likes of Obama who is selling us out on all fronts.

              And I agree in theory about the Logan Act.
              However…
              Just having meetings in private with wealthy people can cause speculation and market fluctuations.
              So it is tricky business, and I can understand the need for privacy.
              It’s good to keep an eye on it, though.
              But we should maintain a level of sanity with the speculations about what it means.

              It goes to character.
              When Pelosi met with Syrian leaders…I think she was up to no good.
              I trust Perry’s character, because so far I have not seen anything in his record that leaves me to suspect that he’s done anything more than try to do a good job for his state.

              Like Palin, Perry doesn’t have the ‘Bush connections’ going for him.
              So I cannot fault him for trying to make some connections of his own.
              Doesn’t mean they were with sinister intent.

              • Anonymous

                Palin will demolish him. I can’t wait. I do not trust this man. There is something very wrong with him.

                • Persephone

                  “Palin will demolish him.”

                  Maybe so.

                  Perry is a gentleman…with women.
                  I doubt that he would fight back.
                  So Palin would have an advantage there.

                  If what I have read on other blogs is true about her recent remarks aimed at Perry…then she is already taking potshots at him.
                  Which is disappointing, if true.
                  Perry probably still considers her a friend, so I would be surprised if he responded with any sort of the same snarkiness.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QUZ7OVOHNOTPLI2PWHGY3ZS2TM DMAC

    Just Another politician doing double talk and avoiding the subject we want to know the answer to.

    • Anonymous

      Woof !

  • Anonymous

    What I think is we need to smarten up quick. We must centralize under one key issue, the economy for the president, we must gain one party rule for GOP for the first two years. We must repeal Frank Dodd, Glass Steagall, Healthcare and get a balanced budget amendment. We have to secure the border and we have to maintain our defense – then we can work on the social issues. Perry is right on “do what needs done first”, then argue about immigration, social issues. If its Perry then we have to support him.

    Like Reagan said, we have to stop the cannibalism on our candidates. Let them get their message out and lock step in one voice for the presidency. The real important thing is maintaining congress and winning senate along with electing a GOP president. We need to Get our game on in our precincts for now and stop dividing the issues…we need to focus

    • Anonymous

      The single most important issue is dealing with an out of control, corrupt, lawless, statist Federal government. Anything else is putting pearls before swine.

      First we have to elect a President and more in congress who’ll fight to dismantle the fatal choke hold that the political establishment has on we the people.

      Anything else is a temporary reprive and will lead to more of the same. Witness how fast Bush1 demolished all that Reagan accomplished.

    • Anonymous

      The single most important issue is dealing with an out of control, corrupt, lawless, statist Federal government. Anything else is putting pearls before swine.

      First we have to elect a President and more in congress who’ll fight to dismantle the fatal choke hold that the political establishment has on we the people.

      Anything else is a temporary reprive and will lead to more of the same. Witness how fast Bush1 demolished all that Reagan accomplished.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liz-Theiss/100001295886095 Liz Theiss

      WRONG. Time is up on immigration. Stop the cronyism associated with cheap labor. Prioritize PUBLIC SAFETY/NATIONAL SECURITY and do the other items. Put the absolute FEAR of GOD into the business community about hiring illegals. Fait Accompli. There is no reason to WAIT as the 14th amendment is allowing anchors to take over the nation that was garnered by blood. No trifle matter, my friend.

  • Anonymous

    I just got an iPad2-32GB for $ 24.53 and my girlfriend loves her Dell laptop that we got for $ 35.46 there arriving tomorrow by UPS I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 42 inch LED TV to my boss for $ 655 which only cost me $ 61.79 to buy.Here is the website we use to get it all from, GrabРenny.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Lambert/100000175725589 Robert Lambert

    Check his record on imagration. He loves illegals. His state has hired most of them.

    Palin, TRUE GRIT, THE ONLY ONE TO TRUST.

  • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

    I would like to take all you guys to Laredo for a year. I would like you to hear what Mexican Americans, and nationized Mexicans say about illegal aliens. I would like you to talk to the day trippers, those Mexicans, who cross the border every day. Guaranteed, you would be ashamed. Put a no mans land between Mexico and the USA. Stop the one day deportation. Only Perry knows this, and knows what will work and what will not. Stop all illegal hiring, but ju got to convince some New Yorker, only criminals swim the river. I can well understand Obama doing nothing about the border, he is just another clueless gringo, who thinks he can reason with a man with a shotgun. In short, put Perry where he can at least try to use his proven ability to stop a National disgrace.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we do have to secure the border. He SOUNDS good on that. Did he get off topic deliberately? Someone should corner him on the issue of illegal immigration. Sorry, we can’t afford to be polite. we need to know BEFORE we waste time and money campaigning for someone. Answer the question, Gov. Perry.

    • Anonymous

      Sounding good doesn’t cut it. I want to see his record and see him debate. He will fall. There are already quite a few things that I don’t like about him.

    • Anonymous

      Sounding good doesn’t cut it. I want to see his record and see him debate. He will fall. There are already quite a few things that I don’t like about him.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. He’s in the arena now; we’ll see what kind of a gladiator he is. In addition to other considerations, I have the feeling that he thinks this is going to be a fair fight. His public persona is very friendly, and “friendly” political contests are a thing of the past. It’s bare-knuckle, street-fighting time.

  • Anonymous

    Perry on E-Verify: While many businesses in Texas do use E-Verify, all of Texas uses the I-9 employment eligibility program which E-Verify depends upon to verify workers. E-Verify is not as reliable as the I-9 and E-Verify costs about $150 per verification, a problem for some small Texas businesses.

    Perry on Arizona bill: “”I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas. Some aspects of the law turn law enforcement officers into immigration officials by requiring them to determine immigration status during any lawful contact with a suspected alien, taking them away from their existing law enforcement duties, which are critical to keeping citizens safe.” Rick Perry, April 2010

    Perry has also long opposed the Bush-McCain-Obama “pathway to citizenship” amnesty. However, Perry does believe that illegal immigrants who serve in the military should receive U.S. citizenship. “That is a very unique set of individuals, and different than folks who have come here illegally and not given back in that particular way.” –Rick Perry, 2011

    Texas requires proof of legal status to get a driver’s license and every county jail checks its inmates’ immigration status with a federal database.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MYK5GQQAPFG3QENPLZUMRBWBDI Fr. Philip

    Illegal immigration is the great blight on Rick Perry’s otherwise good record. Perry needs to be pressured by the other Primary candidates to improve he position against illegal immigration.

  • Anonymous

    Rick Perry is a speech, think it was 2001 said he agreed with Vicente Fox’s dream of open border with the US…….

    He made appoinments to high Gov office’s to Hispanics.

  • Anonymous

    Rick Perry is a speech, think it was 2001 said he agreed with Vicente Fox’s dream of open border with the US…….

    He made appoinments to high Gov office’s to Hispanics.

  • Anonymous

    Rick Perry is a speech, think it was 2001 said he agreed with Vicente Fox’s dream of open border with the US…….

    He made appoinments to high Gov office’s to Hispanics.