You dont like Perry, thats ok, but stop making fuss over non-sense, because he was being attacked on stage, thats is nothing like making policy. You Cain, Romney,Bachmann,Newt, and Obama bots cannot mess with Perry's record, so you go after what you can. Unless you are a Paul bot, then enough said.
Not true, he had attacked us a few times already by then, he did not take him from Sudan because he did not think we could convict him in our courts.
Look, if you had 8 slim balls next to you attacking you because you are better than them, would you not get a little testy. Plus, what he said was if you say we should not educate these children for no other reason than they have a funny last name, then I do not think you have a heart. So if that is you, if you think that way, then Perry is right you do not have a heart, plus because this is an economic issue, I'd suspect you do not have much of a brain to go along with that. Texas made the right choice, why would they want to pay for all the other cost if they can just push them to make something out of themselves. It cost a lot of money to take care of people, and if 16,000 of them want to go to school, then thats a good thing, better than joining a gang and going to prison, killing someone.
You realize you have demonstrated the fact you have neither the concept that an Act is a Law, and that you do not know what is written in the constitution nor what the current law is that defines what a citizen is.
I think he could use this to put a much needed spot light on this issue of prosecuting Border Agents and giving Criminals immunity and how as Governor he was powerless but as President he would make huge changes in Justice Dept and stop this insanity.
I guess I wasn't clear with my comments, what I want Perry to since he has no power as the Governor is use this case of Border Agent Diaz and the many others who are being prosecuted on bogus charges out of the same FEDERAL office in Texas, is use this and the mega phone of Presidential Candidate to educate the masses about what is really happening. And how as President with Federal Power he would do it differently. As a Perry supporter, I think this is an opportunity for him to highlight big differences between what is going on now under Obama and Attorney General Holder and what he would do. Putting the heat on them with a public statement might in the end help Agent Diaz and his family.
Mind sharing where you found this "equal rights under the law" provision, the 14th Amendment states "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. The phrase "Equal Justice under Law" is engraved on the front of the Supreme Court building, however I have never found an "Equal Rights" provision in the US Constitution.
Like it or not, we gotta take the good with the bad.
But I suspect as soon as our founding fathers spoke of unalienable rights... they slapped their foreheads when they walked out of the hall and were confronted by someone like this.
electric border fence (funny joke, but if it was a serious statement shows how absurd and ridiculous cain is)
Fed audit (lied flat out about it in the debate)
abortion (free choice to break the law)
abortion again (now he is apparently more educated on the topic and favors exceptions to the rule...glad he bothered reading up on the subject even if he still comes to the wrong conclusions)
I probably missed something, but only because either I did not go far enough back or he was smart enough to not say it on an open mic or on camera.
1) it didn't touch the problem with illegals.
Sorry, what you apparently do not know is prior to 2001, we had a problem with illegals going back over a hundred years. And only 1% enrolled in college are participating in the Texas Dream Act.
2) It was passed for a LOT of reasons.
An important reason was to get illegal aliens off of government welfare.
You know, actually taking tax money?
3) Romney's problem with the illegals he hired is actually a national problem.
One of the solutions being tossed around, by romney among others, is to punish employers for hiring illegals.
Under that plan which romney is one of the supporters, do you think romney would have punished himself?
How is that going to affect a home owner who works his butt off 5 days a week that takes hires a handyman out of craigs list or from an ad some place to do a quick "Fix it" job around his house and then finds out he broke the law and has to pay the fines for hiring an illegal?
What about the farmer who has to chose between hiring an illegal to help harvest a crop or let his seasons harvest spoil in the field? You want to say tough cookies? Got news, that affects the entire society that farmer suports with his crops, prices go up at the market or people starve or a farm that has been part of a family for generations just went under and gets bought out by a bank. Good job.
Its the federal job to enforce the laws and protect citizens.
And watching romney's face turn thirty shades of red and then watching him start begging anderson cooper for protection from Perry was comedy gold.
If Perry did that to him over something yous say is inconsequential, I want to see how well obamao handles that kind of treatment over issues a hell of a lot more important than just hiring an illegal for yard work.
It probably says something about you that you let yourself feel offended by what Rick said.
But then some of us learned a long time ago that the only person who can make you feel insulted by what someone else has said, is yourself.
In either event, what you missed in that exchange is lost to history with what people have forgotten that Reagan left us with.
My problem is
Your problems go beyond your statement....
But on this topic alone, your biggest problem is your own ignorance of what exactly Rick said, coupled with how you interpreted the meaning of what you wanted to hear.
Im just curious which guy it is cheez is supporting and how many chances he wants to say he would give them.
Everyone running against perry has done a hell of a lot worse than just accuse people of not wanting kids to be educated of not having a heart.
So you are trying to claim you are not heartless?
Or are you claiming you do not feel that children should not be educated?
Cuz if you feel children should be educated, then you are not heartless.
If you think they should NOT be educated, as Perry said... well I got other words than heartless which are better suited.
I've spent 30 years living in Tejas or Texas for you Gringos. I'm a blue-eyed blonde Celtic descent and my heart breaks for those little dark haired, brown eyed Amigos that cross the border at near death cost to just try and feed and do better for thier families. Most are the hardest working, God loving, family first, friendly beings you could ever get to know. I know what Rick Perry said, when he said "The No Heart Comment"...Because like me, he's dealt with and seen, looked into the eyes of these good people on a daily basis and knows what this group of refuges face, and yes they are refuges....I've worked with and known and befriended hundreds of these little brown skin humans and my heart breaks for the tasks they face daily just to exist....Rick Perry, may be a lot of things, but he's shown me a humanity side that few running for POTUS can come close to....You can go check the Texas Record and see that the right to education for these desperate nieghbors was passed by a landslide of the Texas Legislation and it is not free....Rick Perry, I believe is a Christain and a good man, made some mistakes, but his heart is in the right place....who amongst have not stumbled
Oh my goodness wow!!! Are we meeting the person who never made a mistake in their life? Are you the one??? *sarcasm*
I wouldn't take one thing someone says and write them off because of.... one thing. And no, I don't wanna hear anything back about it being "over the line" or anything. He already explained and apologized again and again and again. So, no. One thing doesn't define a person.
Cheezewhizz, have a heart. they are just homeless people, earning a couple of bucks from O. And, if some one actually thinks these thugs are basic Americans, well, it is hard to overcome 12 years of brainwashing, like my history teacher telling me, there are no GOP in Texas. As to being filthy, I might point out illegals have polluted every source of clean water in Texas. I find it hard to contemplate the vastness of the problem.
If U don't know your enemy, how can you fight them. I know U use your teleprompter. That is the troble with non Texans, they are not used to hearing the truth, staight out. they always try to find a opinion that fits your bias. I know, you Loved LBJ.
hb, first he had to decide how he could avoid this,and still not be lynched. The military told him, we think you better ok this, or explain to everyone why not. then O had to call his Arab friend,s and apologize.
Lots of people have no heart. In Texas that means you have no sympathy. If you are such, and want citizens to be ignorant, you are unsympathetic. Or, U believe with all your heart, in O b a m a the savior. May you receive the results of your bad deeds,and bad heart.
Yeah, U hate babies born in Texas,and raised here by illegals. they are natural born Americans. You do not want them educated. U beleive liberal lies. You need to live in Iran, whre you hate filled heart can vent it, stoning virgins to death. Or, U just another DEM, earning your filty lucre? Just vote for another 4 years for your hero, and FUself.
Actually, no they are not natural born. To be a natural born citizen, both of your parents must be citizens at the time of your birth on American Soil. Native born... is barely a debatable status.
Read Civil Rights Act of 1866.
And according to the president of Mexico they are not American citizens at all.
However, our own federal government is using them as a weapon against our citizens and we must actually use our brains to both cope with the problem and find solutions that do not include a nuclear "shoot our face off to spite our nose."
I.e., Plyler Vs Doe 1982 struck down state law prohibiting funds from going to illegal aliens to educate them.
By federal law we can neither prevent illegals from obtaining an education nor can we prevent them from seeking and obtaining federal funding from it.
What we CAN do is use our brains and mitigate the cost by giving them the same tuition rate the rest of our local citizens have so the do not take more tax money.
We can also elect leaders who can find workable solutions and not pandering politicians who blow smoke in our faces.
Yeah he could have said all those things, because they were true like you know them to be...or that the vast majority of the state legislators that voted for it to become law...however, he chose to show his human side instead.
That was more revealing of the man than anything else...his faith is not something that he practices on Sunday's only. The debates are there to help the voters understand the man...their policy issues are all over their websites, along with their records. Those policy issues can change at anytime...however, the core composition of the man will not...especially a man like Rick Perry...man-up!
We are talking about electing the soon to be most powerful man on earth, as POTUS, and leader of the FREE WORLD.
You are obviously speaking for yourself and seem to have some type of guilt complex...you know nothing of the conservative base, or what real Americans stand for.
CHEEZEWHIZZ...you are absolutely hilarious to listen to...glad to see you admit you don't like Hispanics/Latinos...even though the vast majority are citizens like anybody else in this country. Furthermore, they have been around a lot longer than most. They must be the filthiest of the filthy you talk about. You definitely must suffer from some type of inferiority complex...get help.
CHEEZWHIZZ...my first impression of you is that you are a high school drop out racist. Most people with intelligence knew what he meant. You must be a loving ROMNEY RINO supporter...Mr. Olympic FLIP-FLOPPER. Nobody needs your type.
Huge thank you for the videos I really appreicate it. Perry is the only candidate that I hope and pray I get to vote for. Again thank you so much!!!!
Don't underestimate Perry. He has his own campaigning style and people don't get it. I think he will be a serious challenge to Mitt Rino long after Herman Cain fades.
Perry/Rubio 2012 let's get some spice in the White House again!!!
I like and trust Rick Perry; however, someone needs to advise him to replace the "I created" with "we" or "Texas". Folks will start comparing his number of self references to that of Zero's.
Obamao last, romney next to last, newt next to last, cain next to last.
I can neither support someone who is absolutely ignorant about the constitutional bill of rights any more than I can support someone who is willfully antagonistic of the bill of rights.
Cain has made comments that are direct assaults on the second, fourth, and fifth amendments as well as the powers of the executive branch and the powers of the government itself over free enterprise.
One or two little mis-statements ok... but seriously the pattern is self evident.
Perry needs to keep talking in this conversational tone. He's much better here than he has been in the debates. I like him. He's currently my third choice but I could see him moving up a spot if he can show that he's ready for primetime. I haven't seen that when he's been in the spotlight with the pressure on.
No, you have not seen that when 8 other people are lying about his record. I think Perry did not think everyone would try so hard to destroy him, even the moderators. His team thought debates were a minor thing, and they should be, but American Idol types like you want to pick the slickest liar on stage, so pretty much Cain, Newt, and Romney. Newt has a slew of things that he will get hit with if he gains steam. Cain is a bad,bad,bad,bad, joke. Romney is just John Kerry with a R, times 100. Here
Well, looking at the polls for the New Hampshire primary, Romney is destroying the other candidates, at 40% he has a +24 to +27 lead in the polls. Rick Perry 4%
Thanks for this TRScoop. One area I would like him do a better is in explaining why a fence covering the entire border won't work. He knows the answer and just needs to get it out. If he can continue what he was doing in that Q&A in the debates and answer the fence question, he can only improve. His tax plan is solid and he has enough money to get this back on track. I think the best direction for all of us going forward is a positive conservative campaign and conversatoin between Perry, Cain and Newt that shows our best ideas and clearly seperates their records and plans from Romney and Obama.
I apprecate you sharing this.
how many times does that have to be explained?
15 years and 30 billion dollars doesnt explain it enough?
20 foot ladder sales for 15 foot fences?
I realize people who dont live on the border dont have a clue, I get that from listening to bachmann and cain's pandering on the subject.
But seriously ask yourself what problems you could forsee with a fence and just how affective do you think a fence is going to be to deter narcoterrorists who generally do most of their crossing above (planes) and below (tunnels) the border and through check points anyway.
I agree he has, that's how I know. I'm just saying in the debates he needs to explain it. Obviously he gets beat up on it, so he needs to explain why they are morons to say a fence will be built all the way across. Calling them out on a debate stage is how he wins debates. They would look stupid if Perry could say half of what you have above.
Whoever it is that was coaching him on the earlier debates really did not prepare him for any strategy. There probably was no time, he announced and was in a debate within what... a week or two?
Against people who had nothing better to do every day than work out how they were going to attack anyone on that stage for years.
First two debates they hit perry on "one issue" accusation after accusation after accusation in "one point" and gave him 30 seconds to respond to half a dozen different things.
There is no way you can give a proper response in even 30 seconds.
We would have had a better debate if they had scaled back the topics and increased time to speak on the issues and restricted attacks at each other.
stop eating the cheez! He's not a bigot. That was a hyperbolic statement but he apologized and it is what it is. I'm not saying you should like him, but geez, at least treat him fairly.
I am not crazy about the instate tuition either but I'm surprised as well that he doesn't mention more often that another requirement is that they have to be on a path to citizenship. I think that is worth making a bigger point about. I also wish he would do something about Border Agent Diaz who is in prison for 2 years for lifting the cuffs of a drug smuggler. He should champion that cause and help this man and his family by beating President Obama and the Federal Government over the head with this. To prosecute these agents for doing their jobs while giving the drug smuggling teenager immunity is a National disgrace. Perry should take this on as a campaign issue as it is the right thing to do. This happened in his state and with the platform of a Presidential Campaign he could make something happen for this man and his family as well as showing he is standing behind our border agents and is tough on border security.
I wasnt till i found out some facts.
OK, Cheryl, I shall explain it to you, the difference between local and Federal law. My hero and friend, Jose, was a Laredo cop. He caught a coyote carrying 30 illegals to their death, in the Mexican dessert. A gun fight ensued. Jose won, and carted the illgs, back to town. He was immediately arrested. He spent 6 months in filthy Mex jail. Tex gov Perry got him home. He is not allowed to be a cop no more. His cop friends, and the sheriff, buy him all the beer he can hold every night. He has mex wife and 2 kids. I send him groceries. He now works as an electician. Got it? Good, now go tell your friends.
I think your missing my point Allen, I like Perry and I am fully aware of the difference between State and Federal responsibility. I am just saying that he could help this tragedy by bringing it much needed attention with the soap box of a Presidential Campaign and educating the public about the FEDERAL failure along the border. The wife of Border Agent Diaz is going on high profile interviews saying she has a letter from Perry saying he couldn't do anything leaving the listener with the impression he actually legally could do something. My point was he should get out in front of this and use it to shine a glaring light on the real problem, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, and how the FEDS are prosecuting those on the front lines on bogus charges, seeking out these criminal aliens in Mexico and giving them IMMUNITY! This sends a chilling message to those risking their lives on the border to protect us. He should be shouting it from the roof tops how he would do things differently, like firing the all the attorneys in this FEDERAL office who are doing this. And how as Governor of Texas it must be maddening to watch this injustice take place. By getting behind this Border Agent on a National Stage it might really help his case, and simultaneously help his own campaign by educating the masses about where the real problem with illegal immigration, is the Federal Government.
I am not sure what you are talking about, but when it comes to what the federal government does on the border Perry really could not do anything, but Perry could turn it around and say you know this is why I am running for president because the federal government wont let the state take care of issues like this.