By The Right Scoop


In the midst of a larger monologue, Rush took a couple of minutes to say that he is absolutely not surprised that Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll this past weekend. He says that it’s because Herman Cain is consistently conservative, has a clear and understandable 9-9-9 plan and that he takes it to Obama. Rush says he knows the American people, and they don’t want another John McCain. So he’s not surprised at all about Cain’s victory.

Given our last poll, I have to agree with Rush. Most of the viewers of this site are very conservative and over two weeks ago Rick Perry won our poll with 35% of the vote with Cain coming in at 29%. But this last weekend changed everything. Cain won by a very large margin of 44% with Romney following at 18% and Perry dropping to just 13%. The numbers speak for themselves.

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  • Anonymous

    He won because the MSM, including FOX, ignores Ron Paul.. who finished 4th in the Florida straw pole.

    Ron Paul has finished above Cain in more straw poles then he has finished behind him.

  • Publius Poplicola

    As more and more people see that Herman Cain believes in America, more and more people will start to believe in Herman Cain. As Cain shares more of his whole hearted confidence in America, Americans will share their confidence in Cain. He has my vote.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2UVIVT46ZFSPHFY6T6QHJIKQME Christine Lewis

      Mine too!

  • http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

    I’ve read Cain’s 999 plan and I don’t understand how it WILL/CAN work for Americans from all economic strata. Under his Individual Income and Sales taxes we could be paying a combined city, county and Federal sales tax of 19% and a combined State and Federal Individual Income tax of 19% for a total of 38% taxable incomes plus sales. I also don’t understand what will be taxed on sales (food, heating/cooling, water…)?

    The city,county and state sales are variable rates as are the states individual income taxes. I plugged in a 10% rate for both of those variables.

    I like what I hear from him but his 999 needs tweaking as it stands now.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

      To get through Congress, it’ll definitely get tweaked.

      • Anonymous

        The whole point of it, though, is that it should be simple. Once the tweaking starts, we’re back to square one.

      • Anonymous

        Tweaking is fine – as long as it remains simple, fair and transparent. Our current 70,000 pages of code are none of those, and it’s strangling us. We’re at the point where we need something bold and aggressive. We can’t just tinker around the edges – which is what Romney’s plan does. As Herman so clearly stated, “that dog won’t hunt.” I respect Perry but he doesn’t even have a plan.

      • Anonymous

        it will become the 666 plan

        • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

          Were you by chance at an Obama town hall last night? ;-)

    • Anonymous

      For starters, FishyGov, the embedded tax of 23% that you pay for purchases now would be replaced with a 9% tax. The presumably 15% that you now pay in income taxes would be reduced to 9%. And depending on with whom you do business, you would pay a portion taxes passed along by them. And right now, they are hypothetically paying 35% less any deductions they can take as of now. I do not believe the “loopholes” are there under Mr. Cain’s 999 plan. AND he proposes to cut the size of the federal government in order to lower the expense of the federal government.

      I know, it does not sound easy, but it was not easy getting to where we are now… just real clandestine.

      GB

      • http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

        Cain, as President, can only speak to the Federal taxes not to those of the city, county or state.

        By embedded taxes you are speaking about gasoline, tobacco and alcohol taxes…right?

        • Anonymous

          I am referring to taxes that companies pay before you buy something. Believe it or not, they consider that a cost of doing business, budget for it and then add it to the price you pay. From the raw material producer, to the manufacturer, to the wholesalers, and then to the retailer, (and any other steps you can discover) each pays taxes and has to consider them a cost of doing business. End consumers of all products pay those taxes along with their own income tax, gasoline tax (the federal tax for which is higher than the profits oil companies make).

          I talked to a woman who was considering moving from New York City to Florida a few years ago. She was paying 40% of her income on taxes BEFORE gasoline, cigarettes alcohol, etc. In Florida without the state taxes, she would have paid her federal income tax (part of the 40%) and a 6 – 7% sales tax. If she was in a 15 – 20% bracket as many people are, she would have gained a lot. Of course, the wages in Florida are /were not as high in her field, but when everything was figured out she would have been making more real income in Florida.

          GB

    • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie

      A lot of it isn’t what change will happen at one time, it’s to illustrate a vision of a new tax system for everyone…..that there is a plan and it’s a significant change back towards capitalism and a more free people.

      If he gets one anything in the plan (except for the additional sales tax) on its own, it’s a huge victory.

      • Anonymous

        Mr. Cain has said before that his plan is a step on the way to the FAIRTAX. He said we need to do something now.

        The Fair Tax is HR 25, legislation that has already been introduced in the House and has many sponsors already.

        GB

        • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie

          When it comes time to a real vote that has a chance in the Senate, then we’ll see how they vote. I’m for the flat tax, but both fair tax and flat tax are better than this.

          • Anonymous

            In 1986, or thereabouts a flat tax was voted in. It is what we have now with a lot of foofoo added to it. I, for one, do not like the idea.

            The Fairtax would be one rate and the whole country would have to vote on the rate change, so it could not be picked apart company by company or industry by industry as the flattax has been.

            The people who are already lobbying against the fair tax are the Lobbyists in D.C. They have the most to lose. Secondly legislators will not have the power to negotiate tax loop holes in exchange for contributions to their campaigns.

            GB

    • Anonymous

      Yah. More or less what I come to as well, and that’s before you get to the payroll tax issue. Both of those things give our very wobbly economy another hit.

      And when you apply that sales tax to each step of the manufacturing process, how do you suppose that will impact the price the end product – BEFORE the local taxes are attached?

  • http://twitter.com/edenjac edenjac
    • Anonymous

      Yes, “The beatings will continue around here until the attitude improves.” I love that line and Mr. Cain is just the man to deliver it.

      GB

    • Anonymous

      Thanks. That is an excellent article and with great humor too.

      GB

  • Anonymous

    I watched the CBS evening news last night, and it’s disgusting how they dismiss Cain. It took two minutes into the segment for them to even mention his name. The focus of the story is how no-one is satisfied by the current choices, as indicated by Perry and Romney’s losses. They threw in casually that the poll was won by “businessman Herman Cain”.

    • Anonymous

      Our local news was doing a “story” on Herman Cain’s victory in FL and they never even showed his picture. While they were talking in the background about his absolute smackdown victory, they just kept showing clips of Perry & Romney. Clearly they are terrified of this man gaining momentum/recognition!!

  • http://twitter.com/jdtarheel Jamie Lowe

    Wake up Rush. Nothing about 9-9-9 is conservative.

    • Anonymous

      9-9-9 is simply a replacement of our current tax code while eliminating 90+% of the bureaucracy. As proposed, it has no loopholes for special interests. Can you be more specific about how that is not conservative? I’m guessing that it would be more appealing to you if it also had a provision to audit the fed.

    • Anonymous

      I am not sure where, but somewhere in the American Constitution it says that there should never be a tax on production or labor. OWTTE The 16th amendment we have now is unconstitutional. Time to correct that little error.

      There is also plenty of information to show that the 16th amendment was never ratified, so we have been working under an illegality for lo these many years.

      Of course the President of the United States is (according to the United States Constitution) required to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, which until lately would have exempted Senator Marco Rubio.

      GB

      • KenInMontana

        There is a strong case in Rubio’s corner on this issue, as his Father became a citizen four years prior to Marco’s birth (from what I have been able to find). Both parents were legal immigrants, so they were subject to US jurisdiction prior to and at the time of his birth in Florida. From looking at both SCOTUS Decisions on the subject (including one written by Justice Joseph Story) and US Law, Marco Rubio is a Natural Born Citizen.

        Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:

        Anyone born inside the United States *(children of foreign diplomats are excepted from this)

        Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

        Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

        Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

        Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

        Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

        Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

        A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

        SCOTUS cases and decisions can be found here:
        http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/

        Given this information, I cannot see how Rubio could be found Constitutionally ineligible for either President or Vice President.

  • Anonymous

    Hooray! As Rush said yesterday, IF Mr. Cain goes all the way, he will be the very first fully American Black President. History is in the making. He did not mention that Bill Clinton and whatshisname will have asterisks.

    GB

    • Anonymous

      Not true. As someone at the CBC said, he’s an Oreo. Black on the outside, white on the inside.

      Ironically, the question that comment was an answer to was, “doesn’t this refute claims that the Tea Party is racist”. One of the answers that question got was, “there are some Black people who are racist”.

      • Anonymous

        If you are black and join up with the TEA partiers, it doesn’t prove that they’re not racist, it proves that you’re not black.

        Brilliant!

        And for my next trick, I’ll prove that day is night and that I am a seven-foot-tall rabbit!

        • Anonymous

          I like how you put it.

          You know how the pundits have always been saying that Monkey-Brain is so great because he doesn’t play the race card? Well, I thought that in that speech he gave about “Stop Complainin’ “, he was trying to channel a black preacher. Not cool.

  • Anonymous

    To all you nazi conservatives. Cain has instituted a plan that IS NOT LAW! This man is conservative and he would destroy Obama. Let this play out people!

    • Professor Why

      How’d Cain institute a plan on any segment of the population already? Did I sleep for 14 months and just find out that we have President Cain? Or did a stealth revision to our existing laws occur that allow for mere candidates for office to make legislative changes like that? (Or have I missed an unspoken “/sarc” tag?)

  • Anonymous

    …and speaking out? LOL

    GB

    • Anonymous

      He explained himself very well in an interview with Megyn previously posted on TRS: There is nothing stopping a future administration from raising the rates, but it will be TRANSPARENT and the American people will call out anyone who tries doing that. The way the code is now, you can slip in “sneak attaxes” without anyone even understanding what’s happening.

  • Anonymous

    I am not quite there yet on Cain. I am with him on a simplified non-progressive tax system, but do not believe we should open our wallets anew to the Central Government until we have cut it drastically down to a size that it is no longer a grave threat to or freedom.

    Instituting a sales tax gives the Central Government yet another double taxation tool to control us and grow even stronger. That is not conservative.

    Unless we first starve the beast it will morph and grow larger.

    • Anonymous

      The beauty of a consumption tax (sales tax, FAIRTAX, whatever) is that it should satisfy those in favor of progressive taxation.

      If I go out and buy a little fishing boat for $1,000, I will pay at the same rate as one of the one’s millionaires or billionaires that buy a $100,000.00 yacht, but the total tax will be much higher on the more expensive item.

      The key to the FAIRTAX (HR 25) is part of the legislation requires that the 16th amendment must be repealed before the tax is levied.

      Millions of dollars were invested in studying the FAIRTAX, which Herman Cain supports, and it was found to be revenue neutral.

      GB

      • Anonymous

        Hold not your breath. Libs won’t accept that as being “fair”. Ever. No, you have to stick it the rich and give handouts to the poor. I’ve heard them pretty much state that, saying that it’s not “fair” to tax the poor at any rate.

        • Anonymous

          I have been “not holding my breath” for 4 or 5 years now since I first read about the fair tax. I am not sure the american people are smart enough to know when they are better off. Look at the current president. It has taken 2 and a half years and extra debt and more unemployment and lots and lots of empty speeches for some of the people to begin to wake up. And even though some are still hurting, they still say, “Just give him a little more time.” Breaths I do not hold.

          GB

        • Anonymous

          Oh, I forgot to mention the prebate check sent to every family under the poverty level… Now there is something the progs can sink their teeth in.

          GB

    • Jack Bryan

      The beast needs to be cut, cut, and cut again till it screams. I’d echo your concerns on the fair tax. Until the income tax is repealed it shouldn’t be considered.

    • Anonymous

      The fairest system, I think, is to have ONLY a consumption tax. No income tax, no corporate tax, no capital gains tax.

      This way, everyone is taxed PURELY by how much they consume.

      Gary Johnson was advocating for this in the recent debate.

  • Anonymous

    You know Obama is going to campaign on “racism,” Cain just takes the wind out of those sails! I’ve been following Cain for over two years & think he’d be an excellent choice. A conservative non-politician that cannot be bought is exactly what we need. And he’s capable of learning on the job, and from his mistakes as well!

    • Anonymous

      Yeah the race card is wearing thin. They are however working overtime to declare muslims the next great victims of American bigotry.

      This maybe the coup de grace as it has been in the UK and Europe.

      All our fascist enemy has to do is don the muslim cloak and attack America from outside and within. If anyone fights back, mark them a religious bigot. After a few incidents, we make our mortal enemy a protected class with special rights not granted America’s defenders.

      That should do it.

  • Anonymous

    I like Cain, especially as a talk show guy, but I’m not sure he has the experience, connections, or force of will to sit in the big chair. He’s got interesting ideas, but can he actually see them through to completion?

    Heck, I like him better than Romney, but I just wish I was more convinced about him. To me, it would be the same if Laura Ingraham ran for office; I love her to death, but how can I take her candidacy seriously? I’m open to him, just not sold yet.

    • Anonymous

      HR 25 the fair tax bill in the House of Representatives states that it CANNOT be implemented until the 16th amendment is repealed. Although that sounds popular, that is where the heavy lifting comes in.

      GB

      • Anonymous

        Sure, and my question is: Can Herman Cain press through that heavy lifting and show he has enough political acumen to accomplish his ideas?

        A great idea and a buck can buy you a cup of coffee. Is he more than a great motivational speaker and an “ideas” man? I’ve only got his Godfather’s Pizza record to go on here.

        • Anonymous

          My concern exactly. Words are cheap, action speaks louder…but he has no record at all that we can point at and say: “This is what he actually accomplished”. We don’t even know if Godfather’s Pizza did better or worse under him. Some elected Obama with no record because he talked well educated and seemed intelligent…lol.

          Another thing to consider: It is one thing running a corporation where your word is law and everyone has to do it. At the presidential level, we arn’t there yet. Can he sway congress to his way of thinking, will he compromise on principle and back down like a Boehner? We don’t know any of it. I want to know he is going to FIGHT for our country and our rights and not be just another wimp.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, exactly. You’ve made a fine point about the difference between a CEO and a political leader: compromise, backbone, skillful negotiation, back scratching, wisdom to know friends from enemies…the list goes on and on.

            Washington is a far cry from Atlanta. I know people will argue that we don’t want another politician, but it always comes off as applauding inexperience to me. SOME political experience would be nice!

            *** And no flamers! I never said I didn’t like him. ***

            • Anonymous

              You can look at his record in the business industry. As he continually points out what Washington is lacking is leadership. Leadership is leadership whether its as a governor or head of multiple companies. I think that is one of the great things about Cain is that he is not an establishment politician. He’s not a career guy who voted “present” or “yes to that but no to this”. His lack of political experience allows him to go to Washington with fresh ideas and the will to get things done because he hasn’t been tainted by the way Washington works (or doesn’t as Cain points out).

  • Anonymous

    I went to Herman Cain’s website last night and watched a video taken at a Clinton Town Hall years ago. Mr. Cain was questioning President Clinton about the cost of healthcare coverage for his company’s part time and temporary employees. Mr. Cain had great questions based on calculations that he had done on his company’s payroll, profit and revenues. The cost of healthcare coverage was going to force Godfather’s to lay off hundreds of workers.

    Mr. Cain came prepared and really “knew his stuff”. This video shows a man that dug down, recognized a problem and was not willing to take a politician’s talking points and platitudes for an answer. It was impressive.

    • Anonymous

      As I recall, Clinton said that he obviously didn’t have all those facts and figures on hand, but would be happy to try to answer them offline…to which Mr. Cain says he’s still waiting for an answer to this very day.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Who Won, Cain or Able?
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
    Robert Spencer asks, “Is Cain’s campaign bio entitled The Three Faces of Herman Cain?”
    Herman Cain’s multiple personalities
    Presidential candidate Herman Cain won the Florida Straw Poll the other day, and my only question is, Which Herman Cain won it?
    Was it the Herman Cain who, as Pamela Geller reported yesterday, promised that he would “aggressively pursue a criminal investigation of CAIR and all Muslim Brotherhood groups named as co-conspirators in the largest Hamas funding trial in our nation’s history”? Cain also avowed that he would prosecute the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), another group linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.
    Or was it the Herman Cain who, as Geller reported in August, “met with Mohamed Magid, who is also the head of the Islamic Society of North America” and other Islamic supremacist leaders, and told them that he was “humble and contrite for any statements I have made that might have caused offense to Muslim Americans and their friends”?
    Is Cain’s campaign bio entitled The Three Faces of Herman Cain? Or are two faces enough?

    • Anonymous

      Spencer uses a lot of words to say something simple: “Herman Cain came out strong against radical Islam and then backtracked by apologizing.”

      Not that this move on Cain’s part isn’t a mark against him. It is. It makes him look weak.

      • Anonymous

        Herman is the one candidate who says all the right things.

      • Josh

        I believe this was all about Cain stating he would not have a Muslim in his cabinet. He retracted that to say that he would vet the individual. He did not have a problem with a cabinet member being Muslim, but that the character of the cabinet member should reflect solid belief in the Constitution, not Sharia.

        This was a good political correction for him at a time when he was just starting out. It was, in my opinion, fresh to hear someone err on the side of truth rather than to hide behind political vagueness.

        • Anonymous

          Open question: is it even possible to be a good Muslim and not support Sharia?

          We already know that they are allowed to be a “closet Muslim” when needs be under the rule of Taquiyya.

          [edit] It’s like telling me it’s OK to be a Christian, but I can’ use the Ten Commandments in my decision-making process. Not possible.

          • Josh

            Precisely why I thought it was a good “political” response. It was apologetic for the tone, but the message was clear. I do not foresee a Muslim in the Cain cabinet.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, the racism that is going to be hurled at Herman Cain if he emerges as the top threat. But he can take it. Maybe we’ll actually be able to see “the content of character” (conservative values) vs. “color of skin” (democrat racial politics).

  • http://twitter.com/aggiemom07 aggiemom07

    Vote for Cain stop listening to the media who tries to brainwash us into who will win GOP nomination.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been sending Hermain Cain speeches to my “head in the sand” friends hoping to enlighten them about who he is. I also remind them NOT to let the media pick our candidate.

  • Anonymous

    I hate the media types who try and downplay Cains rise in the polls as more of a knock on Romney or Perry. “Oh it’s not that Cain is that good it’s just a vote against Romney.” I believe that is retarded. Cain is the only person who has put out plans to fix the things that are broken….well you heard Rush above. He’s exactly right.