That was a nonsensical reason for Romney's loss. Romney lost because he is an establishment tool. The Republicans act like the 2010 historic elections never happened. They act like the 2011 and 2012 Wisconsin recall elections did not happen.
What did they have in common? The Tea Party and principled leaders.
What did this election have No Tea Party and stealth mushy moderate Mitt. The Tea Party was told to be quiet by the establishment or we will blame you if we lose.
The entire Republican Senate is disgraceful. They had no national campaign against a failed Harry Reid led majority. Not one Senator stepped up to mount attack against the Democrats across the isle.
The Campaign continues. We will demand new "Generals" that are not afraid to fight.
Found out why we lost.
1) 70% Decided before the month of September. Romney bought his first TV Ad in Ohio apparently in the month of September. In fact when Obama was doing the Bain assault on Romney during the summer, Romney did no ads to respond or any ads on tv period.
2) Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie 9% decided in the last few days, 45% citing Sandy an important factor.
3) According to some sources 8 Million Registered Republicans didn't vote. Only about 40% of Registered Republicans voted.
Rush is a servant of this country. He is a purveyor of the truth and getting the truth out to as many people as possible is a service America cannot survive without.
Mitt was recently ahead of FuBar Ack by 7% to 15%
(depending how many more DemocRats than Republicans were polled) -
and prezzy gets 50% (roughly) more votes than Romney? ? ?
Like Stalin said:
""It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
And who controls the voting machines, I might say.
Can I say unthinkable?
A huge fraud possibility???
A huge fraud possibility.
A huge fraud.
Rich, learn how to Google before you embarrass yourself again.
>> Ohio Secretary of State John Husted, who did everything he could to suppress the likely democratic vote in Ohio, is a REPUBLICAN. Got that?
>> Many of the voting machines were made by Diebold, whose CEO was a top fund raiser for BUSH, and stated he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president (BUSH) next year."
>> The voting machine that was shown voting wrong delivered an Obama vote to ROMNEY.
>> Current Secretary of state in Florida, which is once again FUBAR, is Republican Ken Detzner. Luckily, Florida is just a side issue this year.
Pay attention now: More of the american public, in states with more electoral votes, actually voted for Obama. Some people think differently than you do.
Frank, learn how to Google before you embarrass yourself again.
And use logic, not attack.
Did you Google "black Panthers again", "Republicans watchdogs pushed from voting polls ? etc.
>>Diebold argument?? Nonsense. GM (e.g) made your car, but do not control it.
God gave you some grey cells, and now you control them - poorly, I may add.
>>Many voters protested that after voting for Romney, "Obama" popped up.
>>Pay attention now: 60% of Americans are leaching of working people; those vere his voters
The biggest FUBAR is FuBar Ack. Don't try to be #2 - Algor and Biden may pick a fight with you.
Cheryl - giving facts to a liberal, even gay liberal, is like asking a hungry lion: "don't eat me".
Pun intended. ;)
Frank you are naive to think there was no fraud! Look at the morals of this country-of course there was fraud in some amount! Don't be so blind!
Let me be frank, Frank - those are not "my leaches" - they leach on you too, unless you are one of them.
Romney said close to the truth - 47% they are leaches.
47% number was wrong - it officially is 51% - those who take any help from gove.
Don't insult me with stating the obvious - "60% is enough to win an election".
51% is enough.
The leaches did not stand for hours - they traveled from one voting place to another.
Scoop had shown a democRat who boasted he voted 5 times...
There is no honor in winning ILLEGALLY, at least to me.
When Rahm Emmanuel was kicked out by FuBar Ack, he came to Chicago - no, not to participate in an election - he came to BECOME a mayor.
Like in old Russia - results were known BEFORE the election.
The "new normal".
Gas from $1.78 to over $4/galon - "new normal"
"57 states" - "new normal"
...................? ? ?
We lost the country. :(
Looks like the leaches win, Rich. Apparently the constitution still gives each leach a vote. Polls finally predicted Obama, and surprise, the vote elected Obama.
So the logic is: Republicans controlled the vote process and the machines; how did your imagined fraud creep in?
Suck it up, Romney lost. Electoral college and popular vote.
Now, shall we discuss why? let us imagine one of your "leaches" is feeling like seeing a different opinion, say. And finds this interesting web site. How do conservatives really feel about gays, blacks, hispanics, women? Was Romneys 47% statement just a minor slip of the tongue, or his true feelings?
I was wondering. I could just watch Rachel Maddow, who regularly shows statements by conservative pundits.
But it is interesting to look for myself - challenge my expectations a bit. And now I have seen women described as stupid, minorities in general as only interested in what they can take, ignorant of even their own liberation struggle.
But to get back to the results of the election - I'll take your word for it, 60% are leaches who would vote for Obama. That is enough to win an election, you know. Those leaches stood outside for hours to vote in some places,
God Bless You.
(Does this sound vaguely familiar?)
"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions...Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.'" ~Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
Republican party hacks shoulder a huge part of this loss. Let's look at my Congressional district. The NY21st (formerly the famous NY23rd). The party hacks tossed aside real conservatives for DeDe Scozzafava in the '09 special election, who was challenged by Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman, who nearly won. Dear ole DeDe endorsed the Democrat as she withdrew from the race. Moderate Republican Matt Doheny, endorsed by the party hacks, was beaten solidly in 2010, and again last night. How many elections do they need to LOSE to wake the heck up? That's 3 elections in just over 3 years. Not something I would want to brag about.
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You're right, Rich. The RNC is about power, not about people and certainly not about the great republic that is the United States of America! They play it safe, and keep picking losers. Rich, we'd love to have you join us at FR http://fundamentalrefounding.ning.com/ It's a great and growing patriots' group, and your thoughts and insights would be most welcome!
The problems run much deeper than Romney as Rush says. I listened to Rush's show today. We as Christians have stepped aside and allowed the left to push us in a corner. They've pushed us in a corner in our schools especially. They have dumbed down the curriculum. The text books are written by left-leaning activists that have rewritten history, removed historical Christian foundations and purposefully re-educated our children away from what they're taught at home. Children know nothing of economics and our forefathers view of what role government should play in our lives.
I live in luxury apartments so I made the assumption that my apartment manager is intelligent. She approached me today and asked me whether I am happy about the election outcome. She was very giddy. I told her that I am very disappointed, actually. She looked shocked and asked me the same question again. I'm presuming that because I am black, she instinctively thinks I voted based on race.
She told me that she didn't understand and asked whether I'm Republican. She told me that she agrees with Republican's Christian tenet but said that Republicans are only concerned about protecting their wealth and the wealthy. She said that "Obama said" that Romney made 30 million dollars a year and didn't pay taxes on it. I explained to her that Romney doesn't have a salary like her and I. Romney has already been taxed long ago when he was a CEO. The money he has now is because of investment growth and that its taxed at 15%. I explained that double taxation on my salary and wealth when I invest. I told her that Romney gave a third of his wealth to charity and taxes. I said he released his tax returns. She then asked whether he received a salary when he was governor. I told her that he forgo-ed taking a salary as governor. She looked like she swallowed something sour.
I don't think this manager has any clue what "one-third" is. She asked me whether the 15% capital gain tax was something new. I can't believe it.
This mis-education is purposeful and I don't know if our children have any hope. I watched a video clip on the Blaze or Breitbart of a young, black boy who said into the camera that a Romney presidency meant that "we would go back to the crop fields". There is absolutely no analytical, independent thinking going on among our youth.
We let this happen when we allowed the liberals to take away our rights as parents to send our children to our school of choice and when we let our city councils choose these dumbed downed textbooks and curriculum. It starts with the schools.
I do believe our dear leader takes advantage of those that just don't understand and he gives the impression that he is "for" the regular-just like Biden does but it isn't true!
I heard Rush's program-it was spot on! The people feel safer thinking they have a safety net like the government but what they don't really realize is that it is a trap! Very sad!
Have you met ryanomaniac?
"Minorities obviously have no aspirations other than take other peoples money. I'm very disappointed how stupid women have become. They are squarely in the sucker column along with African Americans and Hispanics."
Anyway, I have to agree that we are not giving our children a sufficiently rigorous education. The vigorous disagreements of our founding fathers are generally glossed over in a blissful haze.... I always liked how feisty Jefferson was:
I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789
Sorry, Rush, but you are losing america. Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, youth, Women, Jews, even Catholics. Urban folks. The richest counties in america went for Obama. ( Median incomes over $100000; How does the Santa theory work with that? ) The college educated. Only reliable group left is old white men. Even with Obamacare our life spans are not going to be expanded by that much; basing a political party on a shrinking demographic is not going to work.
Tammy Baldwin became the first openly gay politician, and first Wisconsin woman to be elected to the US Senate. Three Gay Marriage wins in one election. And that makes a lot of people very happy. You might want to talk to them to understand how it isn't just about Santa. The GOP really got on the wrong side of this issue.
And the "legitimate rape" comment. The idea that the GOVERNMENT should control womens reproductive choices - Or that the BOSS should decide if you got birth control. The GOP opposed equal pay for equal work. Since when is equality "Santa"? Any wonder why women defected from the party?
There is room for a fiscal responsibility party in this nation - Romney probably did pick up much of his support from folks that feel that is most important. But the GOP drove so many away.....
All those groups you listed are the problem around here. Minorities obviously have no aspirations other than take other peoples money. I'm very disappointed how stupid women have become. They are squarely in the sucker column along with African Americans and Hispanics. I can't wait when it all crashes down cause people like yourself will be hit the hardest. You will be hit first. Enjoy this while you can cause ill have much enjoyment when you figure how bad you screwed up.
The problem is the national media and everything on the Boob-Tube! It's all liberal propaganda and everything but the truth! People are brainwashed and their heads are full of liberal mush and they believe the lies! Unfortunately now everything will have to collapse for the majority of people to see the truth again. Hard times are coming! We haven't seen anything Yet! Prepare for the collapse of the US Dollar and be ready to defend your home and your family when the police are not around any longer! Dark days are ahead! God Bless Conservatives! The rest deserve everything they get!
Lets see - Obama had four years so far to destroy business, right? If he repeats his record, I for one will be most happy.
Average Real Corporate profit growth under Obama: 77.9 % Next best? Harding, with 17.7%, then Clinton with 9.2%
( Ok, Obama looks really good because Bush screwed up so bad. But still... )
Worst since Hoover? GW Bush: -17.4% then GHW Bush: -9.5%
The economy has routinely done very well under Democrats. Liberal Democrats.
And your attitude towards minorities and women is breathtaking. Is that acceptable in therightscoop community? My grand Dad had attitudes like that, embarrassed the hell out of me. I loved him anyway, but he died in his 90s about 40 years ago.
I work and live in Silicon Valley. Over half my colleagues here are minority, and it appears that you know nothing about them - smart, educated, hard working, affluent people.
Frank, I would be slightly happier if I knew that CONGRESS was getting the same HEALTH CARE they are trapping the AMERICAN people with...but they are not! I have talked to several offices around the country and it just isn't so -the CONGRESS will have the best care with whomever they choose-this will be quite different for all of us peasants!
So only women are stupid, minorities are merely ignorant and suckers. And your friends don't mind.
I can just hear your black friends, "Yeah I voted for Obama for the free cell phone". Not because they believe he might improve opportunities for jobs, or access to health care, or educational loans; or maybe some of them are even gay, and might want to get married. Haven't told you yet? I wonder why?
And by the way, the Southern Strategy of the GOP has been in place for awhile; LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, which was indeed a bipartisan effort. There was a time when hands could reach across the aisle.
My attitude towards minorities? Did I say they were stupid? No. I'm not your grand dad. Sorry. I was stating the facts and minorities would be more than happy to tell you why they voted overwhelmingly for Barak Obama. Look up the definition of the word ignorant would you? It doesn't mean stupid. Are not black folks ignorant of the fact that it was democrats who sicked the dogs on them? MLK a republican? Democrats voted against The Civil Rights Act? Thats ignorant of the facts and that shapes their views does it not?
I know nothing about minorities? I was raised in a town majority black. High School a majority black. I really get it. Many friends I have are black. They know my opinions and take no offense cause their is none. You decided to be brave and self righteous.
This is acceptable in the Right Scoop community and most would agree with my view cause it was not stated in hate. The fact that you would jump to that conclusion says a lot.
In my area, Obama went hard on abortion rights...and won. While the GOP ran commercials trying to appeal to concerns about the economy. that lost
My area is highly educated, well paid and white. And majority women.
Call them Abortion Moms.
There are now more takers than givers. It's going to create a lot of pain for all americans when everyone realizes that we all have to pay for this massive debt.
I really question the vote counting process on top of the touchscreen issues that were reported all over during the early election period. I accept we lost but 'We the People' should be allowed to see how the counting process works and who is in charge of the operation.
I wonder if these people that voted for Obama realize that starting in January they will see their family take home pay drop by about $70 dollars per week because of the Bush Tax Cuts ending and the ObamaCare Tax Increases that will kick in. If they knew this one fact that the Lamestream Media failed to tell them they would have voted very differently.
The inmates are running the asylum for another 4 years! Prepare for the collapse of the US Dollar my friends!
Obama would like to extend the tax cuts for the middle class. "the President would allow the Bush cuts to expire for only the nation’s wealthiest, with the current top rates of 33 and 35 percent resetting to 35 and 39.6 percent, respectively."
IE, the rates would return to those of Clinton era : up 2% to 4.6% at the most.
Shed a tear for the richest americans. It might make it hard to afford the auto elevator at the second home, you know.
The 'so called' rich people in this country are the job creators and the back-bone of our economic engine you fool! Tax them more and they will just pass that cost on to the consumer or worse yet they may just move to a different country that is easier to do business in. You Libs don't understand the first thing about why you live in the greatest country in the world, well it used to be but not anymore, sadly. Thanks to like-minded idiots like you! Thanks JERK!
Excuse me. I've come out of my hiding place you tapped on a few posts ago. Picture a fiery redheaded woman, holding her compound bow in one hand and a cold Guinness in the other, and let's talk, Frank. Have a seat, just keep your distance, because I'm in a foul mood today, and I am tired of liberal men who reek of weakness and ignorance, and who presume to lecture me and my fellow conservatives about what Obama is or isn't, and how we are just too stupid to follow the bouncing ball. Your country has gone to hell, Frank. Look around you - look beyond that silly silicon valley group you hang with and see what is. There is a sustained unemployment and rise in disability claims for people who are not disabled. There is a weak dollar, weaker than the Euro, which is pretty astounding. People are suffering, Frank. Real people, not college eggheads or government employees. People who have homes to support and families to feed, who don't want YOUR handouts by way of free food and Obamaphones. Gas has remained 150% higher than when Obama took office since he took office. I don't know about you, Frank, but filling up my Jeep is one hell of a financial trick. I've been lied to repeatedly about Fast and Furious, Arab Springs, and Benghazi by my own government. I've watched as every conceivable freak on the left has screamed about every conceivable grievance from condoms to the Cayman Islands. It's always a grievance. Always some unfair advantage that some mysterious entity has over the poor minority groups, or the gays, or the illegals, or wealthy women who just can't seem to afford those birth control pills. It's sickening. I was told that Obama would heal the racial divide in this country, yet today, I see nothing of the sort. My eyes and ears do not deceive me, Frank. Your side of this playing field is nothing but a cesspool of racism and hate and divisiveness on every conceivable level. I'm angry, Frank. Not stupid angry. Cold and educated angry. And believe me, you would rather that people like me not be the latter.
Frank if your so smart you would know that Obama has not supported our military in fact he has let them die when he could have sent in help! Benghazi-Gate! He lets our troops sit in Afghanistan as sitting ducks waiting to be shot at before they can shoot back! Fast and Furious was a Dirty Criminal Obama plan to take away our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms! Treasonous in my opinion! No Worries though! The First Affirmative Action President Will Get Away With Murder and High Crimes Simply Because He Is Black, in appearance anyways!
Starting January 1st 2013 the average family will get $70. dollars less per week in their take home paycheck because of Obama ending the Bush Tax cuts and imposing new ObamaCare Tax Increases! Can American's already living paycheck to paycheck afford to pay $4,000.00 more in Taxes? Duh! HELL NO!
The healthiest economy in Europe-why is that Frank-who are they being compared to? You set such low standards! High taxes to pay for all that FREE EXCELLENT healthcare? Do you really believe government does it better than the private sector?? Have you ever read anything from the founding fathers about being careful not to "grow" the government...and if you have never read anything from the pages of the history books that warn us-then take a look at what happens to countries that do "grow" the government to carry the people from cradle to grave??? What kind of condition are these countries in now Frank??? Just take a long look at them!
Obama in his first week of office in his first term lifted the ban of federal dollars going across the seas to China and Mexico for abortions-so now my money is going to help them murder their children (these aren't puppies Frank)something you would be put in jail for in CA if you murdered your puppy! And then look at Benghazi and ALL THAT Barack didn't do for our men there-how he let them die! Then take a look at his own words about his own grandmother and letting her "take a pill" if she were too old by government standards to get help for her illness!!! Wow-now what makes you think he cares about people Frank? From cradle to grave Obama cares for noone he cares for taking the money of hard working people and giving it in some form or fashion to people (mostly minorities) so that he can feel good that he is what Frank "helping" people???!
Look at it this way Frank-if you carry your baby toddler around all of his or her life he or she will NEVER learn to walk-at some point you are going to have to let her fall down and try on her own to walk-at some point she is going to have to toddle, fall and get up in order to learn to walk-Its the same with the government they should help in extreme circumstances and only for a limited time-but that is not what O is doing in his first term and I am certain it will only get worse in his second term!
The knowledge, that your comments lead me to believe you have, does not support your condescension. I don't think you're stupid, at all. I think you are either misinformed, or lying, to yourself first, and to everyone else by listing what look like talking points.
I would normally have an honest discussion with somebody that has a different position, but your posts (since the first time I've seen them) have the purpose of antagonizing people here. If others choose to take the bait, that's fine, but I just had to point out the obvious so that you understand how you're coming across.....in case you don't already know.
You seem to know a lot about my side of the playing field! Wow.
Sorry you are so angry. I am raised Republican, my Mom was home office rep. for Republican Congressman Gubser ( quite awhile ago), Dad a business owner. Most of my colleagues are minority, and actually, now that this area is so diverse, as a white guy I am a minority.
No lectures here, I am genuinely curious how some folks, who I presume are intelligent and informed, could be so enraged by the re-election of a guy whose policies are just to the right of Bill Clinton. Under whom business has rebounded. Who has been a strong backer of the military and got Osama.
And I am curious how you would regard ryanomaniac characterizing minorities as having such simple aspirations. Taking money from others. Stupid women. Suckers.
I really can not agree and must speak up for my hard working friends and co-workers. A surprising number of which actually are Republican. Sometimes. Oh, and my boss is a woman. Certainly not a stupid one.
I also work for a German company, you know, that socialist country with government health care, low cost education, six weeks vacation, a very low CO2 energy policy. High taxes, yes. And perhaps the healthiest economy in Europe. Great company to work for, actually.
So please explain to me why these hard working folks I know are somehow so different than how I see them?
And why equal pay for equal work - an idea the women seem to like a lot - is such a bad idea? It was the first thing Obama did, you know.
God bless you !
It's slipping away, folks. The America we grew up in is gone. Yesterday was a resounding vote for the social-welfare state. That's the only reason I can see for why Obama got re-elected. People want their "free" stuff and they want the government to take care of them. It's like that cartoon strip the Obama people had during the campaign, "The Life of Julia." Who knew that's exactly what the American public wanted. And, like our European model, we will go bankrupt just like they did by giving people all of this "free" stuff, from health care to education to housing to food stamps to endless unemployment benefits. All of this "free" stuff has to be paid for, and the money is going to come from all of YOU. We will have sky-high taxes, little economic growth, chronically high unemployment, and no military, just like Europe. And Americans must be OK with that, because that is what they voted for the other night.
The saddest aspect of the election results is the inability to initiate articles of impeachment over Benghazi because there would be no conviction in the Senate.
We have not lost the country, we just did not get the red vote out. In '04 Ohio was R+5, in '08 and '12 it was D+9. If we cannot get the red vote out we will never win. We have to figure out how to get the Red vote out in the battleground states.
Rush is right. We lost the country. There is no way to get it back on a traditional conservative message.
What is good, right and true NEVER changes so I encourage the hard work, the unselfish heart, caring about others and loving God through your example of living! This is true no matter what country you may live in! It isn't about the country you live in that directs your morals or ethics it is about what is in you heart and answering to a higher authority-God! I hope you know Him!