By The Right Scoop


I tweeted about halfway through this interview that T-Paw isn’t sounding half bad actually. He talked about taking on the unions before it was popular, fighting them and his Minnesota legislature over benefits and major reductions in spending. He said he’s had government shutdowns and lengthy standoffs with the unions in the process of getting his state in order. All of that is music to my ears.

But the thing he said that got Rush’s attention is that he is currently campaigning in Iowa for the end of ethanol subsidies. He admits that it didn’t get any applause at that point in the speech but he believes it is something that must be done and he isn’t going to shy away from the truth.

If T-Paw can be tough and stand up to the president, as Rush was suggesting, he may be someone I can put my support behind.

Listen to the whole interview and see what you think. I know it looks long but it goes by pretty quick.

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OUNFNNK4VWVNQZWD743RKW5UYM jonathon b

    ok, i’ll check him out

    hey RS, would it be possible to get the howie carr segment from the bill o’ show? i understand he’ll be talking about mitt AND wearing a viagra tie!

  • Anonymous

     Do you have the clip of Rush naming all the things obama has done?  It was a good one.  Has anyone seen a website that includes all of obama’s blunders, evilness, and  over all crappy president stuff?

    Pawlenty, he is better than some, but still not the one that makes me want to get out there and door knock, spend days at the phone banks, put signs in my yard, donate money and all the rest.  It was a decent interview.  At least he won’t have to apologize to anyone.

    • poljunkie

      I agree with your second paragraph. 

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

      what segment/hour?

      • Anonymous

        I think it was between 1:15 and 2:00.  I was in the car and didn’t really pay attention to the time. I am guessing it’s before 1:30.

    • Anonymous

      I see/hear this a lot about all the GOP prospects but there doesn’t seem to be the ‘one’ that’s going to excite everyone.  Myself, I see it as anyone but Obama and whatever it takes to get a new tenant in the White House.  If I could hold my nose and vote for McCain, I surely will be able to support Pawlenty. 

      Mitt is the one who gives me the most worry but I would even vote for him over Obama.  Maybe we’ll have to turn Obama’s ‘I’m not Bush’ into ‘I’m not Obama’.

      I just don’t see the great uniter out there in the Republican field but if the middle class doesn’t get Obama out in 2012, there will be no middle class left.

      • Anonymous

        McCotter is sniffing, don’t know a whole lot about him, but what little I have seen he seems not so bad.  He can play guitar LOL!  I just want a miracle candidate that sweeps everyone off their feet and beats the POS by a torrential landslide sending his ass into the gutter where he belongs.  Campaigning is fun if your heart is w/the candidate you believe in, otherwise it sucks.

        Anyone seen the video of him w/the Queen and the toast?  Just so, so pathetic, and boy did he have on his steaming mad face.

  • Odin147

    what makes tpaw a problem for the msm is that he appears moderate, they cannot paint him as a wing nut, and this is key…we need to do to obama, what obama did to us, elect someone who perceived as moderate while being conservative i think pawlenty fits that bill. 

    • John

      I agree with the point that Obama portrayed himself as moderate (when in fact the reality is quite different) and the Republican candidate this time must do the same – appear moderate but be very conservative in office.

      In this regard, it would be nice if the Bachmanns and Pauls that are running could change the rhetoric and tone. We know what they believe and stand for – we just need them to sound moderate until November 2nd 2012. As you say, let’s do an “Obama”.

      • Anonymous

         that happens in the general election not the primaries.  during the primaries  Obama appeared to be a major liberal.   that was how he beat hillary he ran to her left.  Once the general  came along he ran as a conservative in red states a moderat ein purple states and a liberal in blue states.  The MSM allowed him to do it by not holding him to the fire and making him address the issues.  

        A gop candidate could never do what Obama did  because a GOp candidate will never have the press in their pocket like Obama.   wishing for it will not make  it  happen. 

        • Odin147

          question is how will the moderates react when the msm does rip into the republican…there are two types of candidates, an unapologetic conservative west, cain etc, and another who is perceived as moderate like TPaw. If we go for cain, west, etc…we are taking a risk larger than when we go for TPaw and the like. Question is do we want to take that risk, given that we are running against the ego. Can cain, palin, etc. convince the moderates that they are not wing nuts in spite of the msm ?, are you willing to take that risk ?.

          • Anonymous

            I disagree.  I think we take a bigger risk  with the moderate.   for one simple  reason  the MSM  doesn’t  see the difference.  to them all GOPers are unapologetic conservatives and a threat to Obama.  they will paint any candidate the GOP puts up as a rightwing  wacko.  

            If you need any proof  look at  Gov Palin.   her record in AK  was one of working with both sides on issue after issue,  going so far as to attack corruption  in her her party but sticking to her core convictions of small limited government and personal liberty.     Not  a sign of a rightwing nutcase by  any measure  but one of a detailed leader  doing the best for ALL the  citizens  of the state.   she even vetod  an anti-same sex benefit  bill because it was against  the AK constitution  reagrdless of her own feelings on the matter.   Look also at Walker  not a right wing  wacko by any measure simply a gov  that tried to balance his budget with about the only  option he had  to avoid  massive state layoffs besides raising taxes.  The MSM  painted both as hardcore conservatives.  

            the differencebetween Palin and walker and a real moderate is when attacked they defend themselves.  

            the risk we take  nominating a moderate is that when attacked  instead of defending themselves they accept the MSM narrative and adopt liberal positions.   Like Arnold McCain and bush  did.  and when they do that you can’t see any difference between them and the dems and therefore the race becomes about personaility instead of issues. and obama wins if that is the case.

          • Anonymous

            I disagree.  I think we take a bigger risk  with the moderate.   for one simple  reason  the MSM  doesn’t  see the difference.  to them all GOPers are unapologetic conservatives and a threat to Obama.  they will paint any candidate the GOP puts up as a rightwing  wacko.  

            If you need any proof  look at  Gov Palin.   her record in AK  was one of working with both sides on issue after issue,  going so far as to attack corruption  in her her party but sticking to her core convictions of small limited government and personal liberty.     Not  a sign of a rightwing nutcase by  any measure  but one of a detailed leader  doing the best for ALL the  citizens  of the state.   she even vetod  an anti-same sex benefit  bill because it was against  the AK constitution  reagrdless of her own feelings on the matter.   Look also at Walker  not a right wing  wacko by any measure simply a gov  that tried to balance his budget with about the only  option he had  to avoid  massive state layoffs besides raising taxes.  The MSM  painted both as hardcore conservatives.  

            the differencebetween Palin and walker and a real moderate is when attacked they defend themselves.  

            the risk we take  nominating a moderate is that when attacked  instead of defending themselves they accept the MSM narrative and adopt liberal positions.   Like Arnold McCain and bush  did.  and when they do that you can’t see any difference between them and the dems and therefore the race becomes about personaility instead of issues. and obama wins if that is the case.

            • Odin147

              good points….but this is not about the msm, this is about how our candidates react to it, and I believe some candidates will do a better job than others. This is about how the moderates perceive gop candidates, it is all in the perception. I think the wing nut narrative is hard to pin on pawlenty because he is sufficiently conservative without coming off as a wing nut. For palin, cain etc it will be tough, if they overcome it then good for them. In the end this is about votes, and ultimately about how moderates perceive our candidates, and this time the margin of error is very small. Again we can have a candidate who will govern conservative but talk moderate. Ultimately i think that is the best strategy, talk moderate act conservative.

              • Anonymous

                I agree Odin, but the problem is the MSM will paint whoever the republican nominee is as an extremist, even if they aren’t one.  And because the MSM rule the networks gullible conservatives will fall for the spin hook line and sinker, sadly.  Having said that, T-Paw is number three in my personal rankings and one and two haven’t gotten in the race yet.

        • Odin147

          question is how will the moderates react when the msm does rip into the republican…there are two types of candidates, an unapologetic conservative west, cain etc, and another who is perceived as moderate like TPaw. If we go for cain, west, etc…we are taking a risk larger than when we go for TPaw and the like. Question is do we want to take that risk, given that we are running against the ego. Can cain, palin, etc. convince the moderates that they are not wing nuts in spite of the msm ?, are you willing to take that risk ?.

        • Odin147

          question is how will the moderates react when the msm does rip into the republican…there are two types of candidates, an unapologetic conservative west, cain etc, and another who is perceived as moderate like TPaw. If we go for cain, west, etc…we are taking a risk larger than when we go for TPaw and the like. Question is do we want to take that risk, given that we are running against the ego. Can cain, palin, etc. convince the moderates that they are not wing nuts in spite of the msm ?, are you willing to take that risk ?.

  • Odin147

    i want one of those electric cigars

  • http://www.solitudeholdings.com/blog1/ Dan C

    “The era of small government is over . . . government has to be more proactive, more aggressive.” — Tim Pawlenty, 2006.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB120373223052387643.html

    But in 2005, signs of his “progressive” instincts emerged. In a quest for new revenue, Mr. Pawlenty supported a 75 cents per-pack cigarette tax. He called it a “health impact” fee. No one was fooled. User fees are generally charged to ensure that those who use a government service pay for the cost of providing that service. In this case, however, it was obvious that smokers were just being tapped to fund health-care entitlement programs.

    Following the tax hike, the governor pushed through a state-wide smoking ban in workplaces, restaurants and bars. Aggressive, Nanny-state government seems to be big with Republican governors these days — although policies such as smoking bans do little to stem the costly tide of state-run health care.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

       your link doesn’t work and he said in the interview he never said that.

      • http://www.solitudeholdings.com/blog1/ Dan C

        OK I guess the WSJ lied then. Possible. He can’t deny the rest of it, sadly. Now the link does work.

        • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

           Why don’t you listen to the interview. He addressed it because Rush brought it up.

          • http://www.solitudeholdings.com/blog1/ Dan C

             I heard it live.

          • Anonymous

             he addressed the “small government” bit  but he never addressed nor denied the proactive, agreesive government part.  

            here is a good read on both sides of the issue.  Pro/con

            http://lloydletta.blogspot.com/2006/08/governor-pawlenty-of-tax-increases.html

          • Anonymous

            The author of that piece is Jason Lewis, a conservative talk show host based in Minnesota. He knows Pawlenty very well. I doubt he would make it up.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C63SDNFI55BI6OELTBOZABN7KA Dave

            Wouldn’t it be cool to have a president that leads by principle?  Maybe one that hasn’t ever flip flopped on any issue – (like Cap and Trade) because he has always checked the constitution and founding documents for his authority before he votes to authorize it? 

    • Odin147

      i am not surprised…but i will give him the benefit of the doubt, because he is a conservative in a blue state, and that implies that on somethings you have to give in..and in the big scheme of things the stuff you brought up is trivial

  • Anonymous

    I was impressed.  I didn’t expect much because I’ve always seen Pawlenty as a bland establishment guy.  But I thought he came across very well with Rush.

    Yeah, when he said he was for ending Ethanol subsidies and he said it in Iowa I was pretty shocked.  And he was honest, too, that it didn’t go over well with his audience.  But he said he was going to do the same thing in Florida with seniors. 

    Now if he could just give a rousing speech I might go for him if Palin doesn’t run.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ therightscoop

       yeah a rousing speech would be good. Like West said, charisma is a must on American Idol 2012 Edition!

  • http://perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ brooks

    I thought it was a great interview… Rush sounded impressed… Thanks for posting it… 

  • Joan

    Tim Pawlenty is an idea guy, but he’s not a speech maker. I believe he’s serious about the need to make “real” substantive cuts. I’m glad to see the Right Scoop posting the Rush Limbaugh interview with him. I’ve always thought Pawlenty was great at speaking extemporaneously and fielding questions. His Q&A at the townhall in Iowa today was informative, and I think we’ll see more ideas from him as he continues his roll out. 

  • Anonymous

    it  is a good interview.  my problem is that  after about a minute I forgot  about everything he said  except for the ethanol part.   And if rush didn’t highlight that  I doubt i would have remembered  that.   In other words tim while you listen to him he sounds good  but then  as soon as he stops talking you forget about him.  He doesn’t  stand out, he doesn’t  get you excited,  he  doesn’t  have “it”  boring i don’t think can win against Mr. charisma.   I wouldn’t be surprised if people forgot  who to vote for in the ballaot  box.   

  • Anonymous

    The ranks thin further. Sweet. We need to know who to get behind, and then, get in front of them…knowhutahmean?  I like this guy. He doesn’t have a God-given yamika like I do, but, that’s cool. Prezzies can have all that hair right there. He ain’t Obama. He’s palatable and has a good media team I think so far. I’m all open to him. I’m doing that two-finger eye to eye thing.

    • Anonymous

      I’m open to him also as long as my number one (Palin) and two (Bachmann) don’t get in the race

      • Cindy08

         I think he is better than Romney.  At lleast he apologized for supporting Cap and trade.  He was not shy to take responsibility.  I am still waiting for Romney to apologize for RomneyCare but that may never happen. 
        As the title of his latest book states: “No Apologies”.

  • Persephone

    What Dennis Miller said about Pawlenty still cracks me up…
    That he needs a mohawk or an earring or an eyebrow piercing…something…to make him more memorable and let people know that there is a fire in there somewhere.

    Pawlenty is a good guy, no doubt about it.
    And he would be a 100% improvement over KingBarry.
    It will be interesting to see if that ‘truth strategy’ works in Iowa. 

  • Marshall

    [Disclaimer:  I’m for Pawlenty.] Pawlenty has a few web ads out where he goes after Obama explicitly, and the rollout today looks good.  His media strategy, “campaign like I govern, govern like I campaign” would be really refreshing.  At first, there was some stuff where I worried about his record, but I’m over it.

    Here’s the thing, in my silly view:  liberal media pushing the idea the GOP has a weak field.  Totally disagree, I think it’s a very strong field…there’s somebody out there for most everybody’s tastes in the GOP.  At the end of the day, whoever is most effective in articulating the ability to beat the President on the issues, and then actually leading and executing as a fiscal conservative who is absolutely committed to commanding forces in defense of our nation is the right person for the job.

    In short:  when it comes to the GOP field, I say that if diversity of ideas and strength of records of execution in different roles (Cain as CEO, Pawlenty as 2 term governor, Ron Paul in his role, Bachmann in her role, etc.) for the GOP candidates is a problem, give me more problems like this!

    Make no mistake:  the GOP primary is the election.  Obama won’t be able to keep Ohio, Indiana,  Florida, North Carolina, or Virginia.  This forces him to take home Iowa+Michigan+Wisconsin+Pennsylvania+Colorado+New Mexico+Nevada.  Not happening…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_53YAPDXSTIGEDINDXF46CAB7ZY voted against carter

    My only issue with Pawlenty is the sharia compliant housing loans program during his time as Gov. His statement saying he did not know about it and was unaware of it IS also A HUGE problem for me.  You NEED to know what is going on in your administration.

    Kinda like Barry and Project GUNRUNNER. You don’t KNOW about it??? Pigs fly too right???

    And because of it I would NOT support him. I have the same kind of issue with Romney and RomneyCARE.

    IF my choice is him VS barry, well I ain’t pick’n barry.

    I think we need a MUCH stronger candidate to slap lil barry around better.

    Oh and drive the leftwing libratard media crazy in the process.

    But at this point in time she is not running

  • http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer

    Go T-Paw.

    Pawlenty today called for the end of ethanol  subsidies…in Iowa. You know? The stae that enefits most from ethanol  subsidies. This guy will go down swinging. Don’t let his angelic alter boy face fool. He stood up to the Dems in MN and kept them for raising taxes. 

    Beck already has a man-crush on him.

  • http://geopolicy.wordpress.com Tony

    I like him… I appreciate his message and his actions… But yawn.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Pawlenty has been coached.  Quite well I might add.   I thoroughly enjoyed the entire interview.  I browsed around some liberal sites, and Pawlenty taking on ethanol IN Iowa has them rattled.  Keep it up. 

  • PK

    Pawlenty came across very well articulated in his position as a constitutional small-gov conservative (my inkling:- center-right) candidate. To earn the nod from Mark Steyn, Pawlenty is obviously no slouch among on all declared candidates. Interesting that he postured himself as an underdog candidate running a “Buick version” in stead of BMW or Mercedes version campaign in fund raising.
     
    Expect more interviews and scrutiny on his platform policy in days/weeks to come and also lefty media frenzy to tarmack him. As his visibility rises with increasing media exposure, expect his support poll may rise as well. When the magnetic field starts to gravitate around him, Pawlenty may run his campaign one day on the stella version BMW or Mercedes Benz. The momentum swing may just give Sarah Palin a good “fillip” to jump in the fray at the right tempo.
    Jumping in too soon as some candidates did and short-circuit themselves is not a sound campaign strategy, nor is feet-dragging far too long when the dynamic and momentum had decisively swinged to other credible candidate. In political chess game, timing is a strategic essence in Sun Tze’s art of war. is A good strategist always plans beyong the next immediate step, but 2nd, 3rd … couter moves ahead of the competetors. Sarah Palin has always been a strategist in her political career. 

  • http://twitter.com/ajroo alec russo

    Pawlenty would say anything to get elected.  He is a phony who supported cap and trade.  I dont trust a word he says.  He knows he wont win Iowa so he is trying to act tough while giving himself an excuse for losing.  Its political strategy not fearless honesty. 

    Havent liked Pawlenty since researching him when he was a front runner for McCain’s VP pick.  The guy is classic RINO who speaks conservative when its politically expedient.

    He is Romney with a less impressive wallet.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1685130176 John Doiron

      So Alec, I take it you lived in Minnesota and watched him govern against big Dem majorities in the legislature and lapdog media. They got nothing they wanted and never had a good thing to say about him, which makes it work for me all the more. Cap and trade is dead, yet you have a fixation on it even after he said he was wrong,. Expand your horizons a little.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steven.sheinfield Steven Sheinfield

    He’s a good man.  A smart man.  A sane and rationale man with strong conservative values yet attractive to independents and even some democrats.  He will end up on top of the republican ticket.  No doubt.  People will get behind him. I met him.  He’s not dull.  He’s kind, charming, witty and engaging.  Give him a chance.  You’ll like him.

  • Anonymous

    I’m about 3 weeks late to the party evidently, but my .02 is Pawlenty is a strong candidate. I, in fact, think he’s the strongest candidate. He’s made a strategic mistake here and there but he handles them well – the test for me will be whether he continues to make the them. Always confront, Tim – don’t roll in favor of the 11th commandment, find a way to say what you need to say and abide as best you can. I’d really rather vote for Tim than Romney, any day.

    But along with most of the nation, I vote against Obama one way or the other. In that, Romney was right. Not ONE of the current candidates would be as destructive to the Republic as Obama has been, even Romney – but it’s not the majority of Con’s that need to be convinced of that. It’s the Indies. Altho Romney is a difficult hurdle to jump for the base, as well.

    But then I voted for McCain. gah…

  • Anonymous

    And can I just say that every time I think of voting for McCain, I curdle a little bit inside. Even now.