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This is one of my favorite Thanksgiving stories, told by Rush Limbaugh, of how collectivism failed as soon as it was brought to America:

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  • Anonymous

    Rush hits a grand slam! God,along with a free will and an independent, capitalistic view brought prosperity to these pilgrims and thus started the creation of the greatest and most blessed country in the world. Sadly,we have gotten away from God & a capitalistic mindset. And see what we have become. Thanks to big brother & his many evil minions God is banished and individualism is twarted by rules & regulations too numerous to list here. We need,now,more then ever before, to replace this federalist monster with belief in our Creator and to again teach our children that being & thinking as an individual will in the long run be beneficial to all.

    • Anonymous

      The road is filled with pot holes and boulders, we must have faith and ask God to clear the way and he will smooth the road.

      • Anonymous

        You got it my friend!

        • Anonymous

          More and more are getting it everyday! Praise the Lord. :-)

  • http://twitter.com/tifosies tifosies

    Interesting. Whets my appetite to hear Ayn Rand’s story of the “First Christmas.”

  • Anonymous

    More good things for which to thank our Heavenly Father on this somewhat sentimental day.

    Good friends and good neighbours.

    enjoy…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_041oYDjg&feature=related

  • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

    Thanksgiving and 6% vs. 9%…

    Rush Limbaugh and his accurate explanation of the origin of Thanksgiving and the benefits of private ownership of property, which is contrary to the idiotology of marxism and the elimination of private ownership of property, and Economics professor Steve Horwitz’s explanation of 6% vs. 9% are in agreement that the poor are not getting poorer… and freedom to own private property is the source of wealth for all… rich and poor.

    The poor simply have a smaller slice of a BIG Pie… that is growing… but the poor are NOT stuck with ONLY a small slice.

    This is an EXCELLENT pizza example that was on here on TRS a couple of days ago.
    >> http://youtu.be/vDhcqua3_W8

    The poor are getting a bigger slice of the pie… and the economic marxists can’t handle the truth… private ownership of property produces a growing pie from which every person, rich and poor, can benefit from and prosper.

    In other words, the slice may be small… but it’s a slice of a BIG pie.

    I prefer BIG Pie instead BIG Gov… to feed me.

    – – – – – – – – –

    Finally, putting what Prof. Horwitz presents about 6% vs. 9% and what Rush explained about the benefit to the Pilgrim’s AFTER they rejected communism and AFTER they instituted successful private property management together with what Prof. Hans Rosling explains in his video as the upward projection of world society since 1810, we see that private ownership of property and concomitant economic freedom has been producing a bigger pie around the world.

    200 years – 1810 to 2010…

    This video is 4min. 48sec. – Hans Rosling –
    >> The Joy of Stats – YouTube – http://youtu.be/jbkSRLYSojo

    From the “show more” section – “More about this programme:
    >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wgq0l

    “Hans Rosling’s famous lectures … the story of the world’s past, present and future development.

    “… In … ‘The Joy of Stats’ … the story of the world in 200 countries over 200 years … in just four minutes.

    “Plotting life expectancy against income for every country since 1810, Hans shows how the world we live in is radically different from the world most of us imagine.”

    – – – – – – – – –

    On this Thanksgiving day, I can’t resist…

    … I’ll have another piece of pie, please.

    Art

  • Anonymous

    Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!

    • Anonymous

      And a blessed and happy Thanksgiving to you, sister Cindy.

      • Anonymous

        You too, Toon!! Blessings to you, my brother!

  • Anonymous

    Along with this, the question whether Jesus was a liberal or conservative has been asked, and the best representation of his political beliefs, I think are demonstrated in Matthew 25, 1-13 the story of the 10 maidens.

    The 5 maidens who had oil for their lamps did NOT share with the 5 maidens who did not have oil for lack of buying enough, and they were sent away to buy more.

    Personal responsibility is written all over Jesus’s teachings.

    GB

    • Anonymous

      Very good illustration to use – the parable of the 10 maidens – 5 of which were sent away to buy their own oil.

      Thank you for the great food for thought!

    • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

      If we are going to talk bible, let’s talk about justice. the Jewish, ‘eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth’, was never ‘done away with’. Christ said.” I have not come to do away with the old law, but to add to it”. So, maybe we should start bombing Muslim cities, and squares? You can bet, the ones who complain the most, are the ones most active in doing it to us. Sharia law in Oklahoma, get real! Why do you think they hide their faces? Sometimes, I kick my self, for not just moving to Israel, and fighting evil at the center. I used to laugh at the holy war, which was an political war, but now i see the merit. Oh how I wish I had taken the job offer to Iran, could I have given them the business.

      • Anonymous

        Your quote is not correct. One shouldn’t misquote Jesus. He did NOT come to “add to it”, He came “to fulfill” it. (Matthew 5:17)

        You don’t know what you’re talking about. The only one “adding to” anything here is you.

  • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

    Wrong, Rush! The Mayflower was not the first boat to North America. Take about 2 years, and read about the real settlement of America. Even though there were 13 original colonies, there were many off shoots, such as Will Penn. to try to shorten, they all got tired of monarchies, stripping them clean. When they separated, all support from Europe ceased. The Indians indeed saved many, but it was a case of showing man to fish, other than giving him a fish. Among them, as today, many people were loyal to their kings, and did as today. Thanksgiving is not about government, it is about thanks to God for the opportunities here. Much freedom was given to the individual, much of which is gone today. FYI, people used to fast and pray all day,and feast at night. I really wish you would read about the Inca’s, and conquistidors. It might give you pause for thought, about America, and all you do not know.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

      The Jamestown Colony was established before the Plymouth colony…And lets not forget the failed Colony of Roanoke. Then lets also remember the Vikings.

      • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

        So many, so many to study. You might try to find the conquistidors who landed in Texas, circa 1460. Write Del Mar College, Corpus Christi, Texas. Request a copy of the original Priest’s diary. It is in Spanish, of course. I got to hold it, and read it. It is not allowed to touch now, of course.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

          All agreed..The pilgrims were rather late.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

    I listened to his story live. Rush got the buying of Manhattan wrong. It is not that the Indians “cheated” the Dutch. It is actually thought that it was a misunderstanding. — Besides, that has nothing to do with Thanksgiving, so I was shocked that Rush made the connection.— I enjoy the show Rush, but as a history major, I just don’t follow you here.

    • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

      I do not laugh too much, but this one was hilarious. No Indian ever claimed to owning any land, it was a God given right to roam anywhere. Come laugh with me, history major. In fact, real history is a kick, compared with ‘modern revisoning’. I got a real treat for you, go to ‘Manchu Pinchu’, Peru. Observe the Christian markings. If you got time, observe Cusco,and tell me if you can build such a structure. I can. You might also visit the 4 corners area, Mesa Verde. You might learn a little more ‘real’ history. I hope you have the same fun I had.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

        I agree that they didn’t claim to own the land, but they did consider certain areas “home” where they were created. There is no word in any native language that exists for that term. I DID say that the “buying” of Manhattan was a “misunderstanding,” as most Native American historians say. — It is not true that all Indians roamed though. The Cherokee did not roam. They had their homeland in the South East, which was why they did not want to move west when they were forced off their land under Andrew Jackson’s administration. Also, the Iroquois Indians did not roam either. You are thinking about the Nomadic Plains peoples of present day Middle America.

        • http://twitter.com/PoeAllen Allen Poe

          Nope. All Indians roamed. You will find reminants of Cherokees in Canada. I married a 100% Cherokee, so I think I got the facts right. Hard for you, but S american Indians traded with the Eskimios, reminants there. I believe the Anastsias, planted corn in the spring, followed buffalos thru Canada,and then returned to harvest corn. I think Apache worst. They just got hungry, raided another tribe, ate everything, then moved on. I used to have original pictures of Indians tents. Like they said, they were like the blades of grass on the plain. Of course, buffalos of all types covered the continent. Why farm, when an hour’s hunt gave you a month’s food? Why build a house, when you had a buffalo tent? The much heralded sacred ground, was a burial site, much to be avoided. Sorry, redmen, some people actually look these things up. Grandfather was Indian agent in Tulsa. The gov gave them tin cans of beans. GP went to Missouri ,and bought them rifles to hunt with. Imagine the mirth, when they found oil in Tulsa. Yeh, I know, history is irrevelant.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

            You’ll find remnants of Cherokees everywhere, but that post-dates the “trail of tears” of the 1830s. If all Indians roamed, then certainly the Pueblos certainly didn’t get the memo. The reason they were called the “Pueblos” is because of their permanent homes! The Hopi certainly did not either. The Powhatan Confederacy (of Virginia) certainly did not migrate. The Hodenoseounea (The Iroquois Confederacy, including the Seneca, the Oneida, the Onondaga, the Mohawk, and the Cayuga) had remained in present-day New York for several centuries before European conquest, and did not migrate before that point. –The Plains people’s such as the Lakota Sioux, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho, the Comanches, the Kiowa and the Crow were the ones that hunted buffalo on the plains. Those were the nomadic horse cultures, so of course they migrated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

    Rush, again…I like you, but the Pokanoket Indians do get credit for saving the Pilgrims. Realize this: Massasoit could have had them massacred easily, but he decided to use them as allies against the Narragansett to the west who were the traditional enemies of his people. By that fact alone, the Indians saved the Pilgrims. Many years later, Massasoit’s son reminded the descendants of the Pilgrims (who at this point were mistreating the Indians) and said to them “The English should then treat us as we treated them when WE were too strong for the English.”

  • Anonymous

    Rush, why are you inciting hatred?

    I’m being sarcastic, of course.

  • Anonymous

    This is true Thanksgiving story is still taught to this day in private christian schools & by parents who home school their children like my grandchildren are.It are these children I beleive will be the leaders,innovators & entrepreneurs of the next generation.The lagacy of Karl Marx will be brutal dictatorships of Lenin,Hitler,Stalin & Mao has characterized by atheistic regimes resulting in poverty,famine,war,imprisonment and mass murders.Yet still today there exist those who beleive Marx was a genius who designed a perfect utopian society that has failed only in leadership of governing.Many deceived and misguided progressive DEMS would persuade us they can direct us own the path of successful marxist socialism.It failed the pilgrims with disastrous results as it has every subsequent attempt.It appeals to each of our lust for maximum rewards acheived through minimum efforts.That is a sure formula for failure in life.

  • Dan

    if you really want to know how it all got started and were all the different people came from and how they got to were they are today this is a good watch…whether you believe it or not this may open up more doors to open and investigate..

    • blackbird

      Thanks for the link Dan, started watching it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

      Kent Hovind? Aww how cute. He certainly has a great “nack” for fiction.

      • Dan

        and your a evo-pimp i guess…lie built upon lie…hey we are all free here…i believe the Bible you believe Satan…oh i’m sorry is that hurtful…….oh well…get over it…

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

          Funny. It is young earth creationism that is satanic.

          • Dan

            by your statement you in effect are calling Jesus a liar…

            Jesus speaking
            Mar 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the (beginning of the creation) which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

            Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them (at the beginning) made them male and female,

            Jesus talked about the Flood…was He lying about that too:
            Mat 24:37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

            Jesus also talked about Jonah and the great fish…

            Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

            Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, Teacher, we would see a sign from thee.
            Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet:
            Mat 12:40 for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
            Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, a greater than Jonah is here.

            Luk 11:29 And when the multitudes were gathering together unto him, he began to say, This generation is an evil generation: it seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it but the sign of Jonah.
            Luk 11:30 For even as Jonah became a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.
            Luk 11:31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and shall condemn them: for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
            Luk 11:32 The men of Nineveh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, a greater than Jonah is here.

            2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
            2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were (from the beginning of the creation.)
            2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of(dumb on purpose), that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
            2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
            2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

            Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

            those are just from the Bible.there are 1000 and 1000 of Scientists who have found Darwinism a lie…if you want i can provide the list…but you wont want it cause you have already rejected the truth….

            Beginning
            BEGIN’NING, ppr. First entering upon; commencing; giving rise or original; taking rise or origin.
            BEGIN’NING, n. The first cause; origin.
            I am the beginning and the ending. Rev 1.
            1. That which is first; the first state; commencement; entrance into being.
            In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1.
            3. The rudiments, first ground or materials.
            Mighty things from small beginnings grow

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

              No, I’m calling Kent Hovind a liar. It was Kent Hovind that ALMOST made me an atheist. (Thank God I have avoided that). Even many YECs have debunked plenty of his arguments (See Creation.com and the page entitled “Arguments we think Creationists should not use.”)

              As for the 1000 scientists, I have looked at the list. A huge number of them are not scientists in the field of Evolution and biology. Many of them are engineers, or even astronomers, and therefore they do not have the credentials (in biology) to make any determination of evolution at all!

              I have also noticed that several of the ones on the list (from the Discovery Institute) DO accept evolution. There was one I knew of that actually had his name removed when he found out what the list was being used for.

              Another thing to point out is almost all of those scientists accept the earth is 4.6 billion years old. Even many of the ones who accept a form of Creationism on the list accept an old earth.

              Even if all of those scientists DID reject evolution, which they do not, that would not indicate whether it was true or false. Even if 1000 were to say “Evolution is false,” we still have 99.9% of all scientists saying the opposite.

              • Dan

                sorry but using the wrong assumptions to determine the age of the earth only causes confusion and the 99% you use wont come forward because of fear of being fired..you fools have destroyed to many lives for them to come forward and so they stay in the shadows….there is no evidence of Billions of years…everything and i mean everything points to a young earth….is the truth harsh….get over it….

                • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

                  I have not destroyed a single life ever, so I will accept your apology once you give it. — Creationists have not been so keen on toleration of opposing views any more than scientists have been. Creationists call for “Academic Freedom” to teach both sides when they have no control in the school curriculum, and yet when the Creationists are the ones in control, they stifle out any opposition to their position. In La Sierra University, for example, some teachers have taught Evolution despite the fact it is a Seventh Day Adventist School (and the church teaches a Young Earth), and many in the church have shown intolerance towards those teachers. All that proves is that Creationists are for Academic Freedom” when they are not in control, and they are for censorship when they ARE in control.

                • Dan

                  you have got to be kidding me …were do you get your facts from…watch the Move EXPELLED…that it the education system…most of the oldest colleges in the us were started by Christians and open their doors to Secularist to allow for the free flow of information and Knowledge and the Secularist eventually got control of them and SLAMMED the door SHUT on Christian Professors…for every school you might be able to find i can name 100 that discriminate against Christians…the founders, if they could have seen what government was going to do to the education system they would never have let them take over…and would have left it in the hands of the Church to educate our children… and as far as an apology…i do not apologize to people who misrepresent the truth and if your belief system has destroyed the faith of anyone who was a Christian and because of your teaching they turned away from the Faith then yes you will be held accountable:

                  Jesus speaking:
                  Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
                  Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
                  Mat 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
                  Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
                  Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

                  that is why i do not suffer lairs and deceivers very well

                • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith

                  Where do I get my facts from? I’ve interacted with the “Creation Scientist” (his name is Sean Pitman) who is leading the charge to censure the teaching of evolution at La Sierra University. So I got my facts from the source itself.

                  The irony of that is, even though Sean Pitman is trying to remove evolution from the curriculum at La Sierra, I remember once when he fussed about a teacher at a different school not getting a job when said he doubted evolution…. Funny. Sean was kicking and screaming when teachers at a religious school began to teach evolution, and then when the reverse happens, Sean is all of a sudden for academic freedom…

                  Yes siry.. Creationists are just as guilty of persecution and censorship as any scientist.

                  So I know for a fact that Creationists have been censuring opinions of people who disagree with them. — I have “Expelled.” Censorship is not right with either Creationists, or scientists. But again, I have seen Creationists that are guilty of what they preach against.

                  Again..I will await your apology, since I have not misrepresented anything. God knows that I have not knowingly told a single lie in any posted response I have given to you. So again, when you apologize, I will graciously accept.

  • blackbird

    Thanks for the Rush video Scoop.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Dan, i have the whole series…. really opens your mind.