By The Right Scoop


At a speech before a group of pastors in McKinney, Texas, Rick Santorum said that while he is a man of faith, even of deep conviction in his faith, he has no desire to be the “pastor of this country” and he is not just a man of faith, but one of reason too:

I just think it’s important that we have somebody speaking up here as president who is wiling to be very public about the role of faith in our society, the role of family in our society – those bulwark institutions. And it’s not because I want to be the pastor of the United States. I have no intention and no desire to be the pastor of this country. …

I approach every issue that I deal with between the two wings that I refer to as faith and reason. …But we have an obligation as a public official to rigorously advance both, right? And not just to accept as an article of faith but to show to people of faith and no faith how this is best and just and right for our society. And so, just so you understand where I’m coming from. Yes I’m a person of faith… But I want you to understand that I’m not just a person of faith, because there are people in America who look in civil government not just for what your faith is calling you to do, but what is right according to reason.

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  • Anonymous

    Well said, Rick. Needed to be said by a candidate. I think this comment will help him.

  • Anonymous

    I like Rick. I hope he can keep it going.
    I said it earlier that if he and Newt can keep swapping out states and keep Romney in second or even third, maybe we can pull this off, and give the finger to the establishment while getting one of the two conservatives as the nominee, rather than a NE Moderate Liberal Republican Gov of a blue state.
    In fact I say most Republican Govs of NE blue states shouldn’t even qualify to run as a Republican Presidentials candidate. Let ‘em run as Democrats so we can at least have a Democratic nominee who actually likes this country instead of wanting to “fundementally transforming” it

    • Anonymous

      Romney and Joe Manchin should have run together against Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Get em Rick!

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Excellently said. Faith and reason are both important to the people in this country, and both are needed desperately in the White House.

    Liked his comment about the telepromter in the back too ;-)

    • Anonymous

      Glad to have you aboard Santy’s Sleigh!! :)

    • Anonymous

      Hey ABC, thanks for your defense against “JeremiahX” on that Russia thread. I only just saw his reply in my email inbox. I hadn’t noticed it before today. But I think he’s deluded big time if he thinks Christians cannot be involved in politics or have any justification for fighting for their nation at all. He should study Cornelius (Centurion of the Roman Empire); Daniel (Prime Minister over several of the most Godless nations/empires (Babylon; Persia and Media) ever to exist); The Ethiopian Jew in Acts; and several others.

      I think he was either a liberal who would love to see the salt of the world dissapear from the political arena (wouldn’t that be nice for Obama and his deluded aficionado) or a Christian who is sadly mislead as to what the Lord requires of us as Christians in this world. Or, even more simply, he could just be a troll! There were elements of his commenting on that thread that were troll-like tbh.

      In any case, he was just plain wrong!

      PS Just to keep it relevant to this thread, Go Santorum! Great Speech. I completely get where he’s coming from.

      God Bless sis.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Thank you unidentified brother of mine. Jeremiah and I have been having more discussions on the other Scoop post about the laying on hands on Santorum. I don’t think he means any harm, just very VERY convicted in what he believes. I went back and read the comments on that thread that you’re talking about, and kept reading some of the newer ones (even though the comments are closed now) but seriously, some of those new folks scare me! They are Ron Paul supporters, I do believe, but nasty ones. I know there are a few folks here like Libertifirst and Grizzly, but they are nice folks and don’t trash the USA or Israel like these others do. I don’t know if Jeremiah is a Paul supporter, due to his antiwar/ keep out of politics stance, but at least he’s fervent in his faith.

        Anyway- yes, I add, YAY Rick!! :-D God bless you brother. Hope you have a beautiful evening, and see you around Scoop later!

        • Anonymous

          Lol. I’ll take your word on JeremiahX. Still, though I have friends (Christian, I might add) who hold the same stance as he does, I always get flummoxed by their view. It just seems like a no-brainer from scripture and common sense, to me, that they’re wrong. O well. You can’t win them all. God Bless you too sis. Stay safe. UN

  • Anonymous

    He makes a reasoned and good defense for faith and intelectual integrity.

    Of course, it’ll go through one ear and out the other of the group think consensus media.

    Their next question to Rick will then be, “Now Mr. Santorum, why do you want to turn America into a theocracy?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    Here’s the challenge I see for Rick Santorum, keeping the debate/discussion about the economy and beating Obama, the problems we immediately face in this election. We know opposition is going to make the debate/discussion about Rick’s social issues and distract from the most important issues the american people are concerned about, Jobs! Economy! The Failure of Obama! I’m not saying he can’t do it, I just see it as a challenge he’ll need to overcome, for the nomination and beating Obama!!

    • Anonymous

      I think you are right up to a point. But only up to a point. As the country has slid over the hill under liberalism, and Obama has accelerated the whole process, a lot of people begin to realize viscerally that liberal social and economic policies and cultural consequences are all of a single unit–inseperable, and that there is no contradiction in discussing them together.

      Look at those workforce participation numbers–essentially the lowest peacetime male participation rate in US history (quoted as the lowest since WWII, but there was an obvious reason for the absence of men from the workforce then), and consider how many people are getting a strong hint of the future under liberalism, and the inextricable interconnectedness of economic and social policy.

      I don’t see any strong indication that Santorum has trouble turning interviews and debate exchanges to his chosen topic at the time–the economy as well as anything else.

    • Anonymous

      Yes. The main drawback to RS is the left is going to try to have a field day painting him as a lunatic, religious fanatic who wants to impose his ‘wacky, dangerous’ religious beliefs on everyone else. Of course, Obama and any lefty can impose their wacky, dangerous, commie-socialistic-atheistic beliefs on everyone with impunity.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

      I don’t see life compartmentalized like that. Who we are and what we think colors every area of our lives. But as Rick says, that doesn’t mean you can’t and should not appeal to both — one group is reached by reason, the other by both faith and reason. A good leader can reach both.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t see how Rick Santorum’s position on Social issues is out of the mainstream of the Conservative movement. Is Santorum any more socially conservative than Regan, Rubio, or even George W. Bush?

      I was talking to a fellow conservative today who said that he did not think Santorum was electable because he was far to the right of most Americans when it comes to Social issue. Well, about half the country is socially conservative and most are to the right of Obama. I don’t see how Santorum can be considered extreme and Obama not. It’s just media manipulation that makes it appear that we are the crazy minority. Even if we are, I would rather stand on principle and hold my head high than be a coward and capitulate.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

        I agree but he needs to be more than just the social conservative. I think he is more than just a social conservative but the perception is the reality and social issues is what Santorum has Championed on. I agree with you that media has manipulated his stances on socials which they believe he wants policy or law. He can only sign law as president he can’t write the law.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Let’s not forget that Santorum has run a statewide campaign and was able to be elected in a very blue state with the values ha has. He did not lose the 2006 campaign based on his soc. conservatism but his loyalty to GWB and Spector.

      • Anonymous

        Good point. I’ll have to point that out the next time I see someone write, ‘but he lost his Senate seat…..’.

  • Anonymous

    And that is exactly what the First Amendment ensures: That every American has the freedom to worship freely and express themselves freely, without the threat of government intervention or retaliation. And, by the way, worship is a way of life for true believers. It includes prayer, praise and coming together for services but it also included obedience to Him and His Word as we go about our daily lives. And that obedience should NEVER be hampered by government mandates under the threat of force as it is now.

    Obama is stomping on our freedoms openly and without recourse. Every American should be outraged by the fact that he has not been challenged by the press or in a more forceful way by Congress. We need a leader who can reverse the socialist trend and stand up for the Constitution.

    Rick Santorum is certainly saying all the right things and I wish him well as he faces the onslaught from both the Dems, with the help of the press, and the leaders of GOP who have ignored their base and continue on the path toward bigger, more oppressive government.

  • Anonymous

    The translation of what he said is that he’s a walker, not a talker; and that his faith is not something that he brings into the pews on Sunday and then when Monday comes he just tosses it away. No. It is what drives his every decision, both great and small; all day, every day. He built his house on the rock. And neither the winds or the storms of life can shake it; because its foundation is sure. Were it that we had a President like that, instead of the relativist, self-important, pretentious twit that currently occupies our WH.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

      Well said.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Never once did he mention and “isms” (systems) or “big ideas.” He is basing the exercise of power on conscience as tested and applied by reason, not trial and error.

    Also very important that he contrasts his transparent faith with Obama, who is wielding power under false pretenses. The man is obviously a communist hell bent on destruction who lied when he took the oath of office.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad he drew that distinction and said his appeal is as much to reason as based on faith and that he’s not trying to be America’s pastor.

    Sometimes I think the American church gets confused as to who is supposed to do what in this dispensation.

  • Anonymous

    At least Santorum knows his weakness. He is largely seen as a superior, judgmental moralistic preacher. He also has the condescending thing going when he senses that anyone questions his righteous religious pomposity. Now we have to see if he can effectively deal with the weakness, or if he is like Gingrich. As in, he realizes his problem but is helpless to fix it.

    • Anonymous

      Waaaaaaa? I’ll read that again and try to make sense of it. ‘ll let you know how I get along.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6UWKUZ3JBMB7FOIZ6RP2H6KHD4 Gene

        don’t try……. the man is a fool

    • Anonymous

      … Nope. Still makes no sense.

  • http://onthemark1.blogspot.com On The Mark

    “Faith vs. reason” is a false dichotomy. Faith in God is perfectly reasonable and rational. Reason necessarily leads to acknowledgement of the reality of God.

    However, I very much appreciate that Rick pointed out that life’s beginning at conception is a biological fact. Too often, pro-abortionists object to the pro-life view by claiming that we are imposing our religion on others. In fact, on this issue, if we impose something on others, it is science, not religion.

    “It’s the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense and can’t see things as they are.” ~G.K. Chesterton’s Father Brown in The Oracle of the Dog

    “A little science estranges man from God. A lot of science brings him back.” ~Francis Bacon

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” ~John Adams

    • Anonymous

      “”Faith vs. reason” is a false dichotomy.”

      With that statement, your name really couldn’t be more fitting. However, I understand what Rick is trying to comunicate. I just hope he doesn’t become all apologetic now that he will come under pressure to appeal to a wider base of Republicans/the electorate.

    • Anonymous

      John Adams quote is very true and why I think we are in the predicament that we are in in this country.

  • Anonymous

    He’s the only conservative left in the race. His understanding of family values and morals as drivers of an enlightened and healthy society is assuring. Also, I can’t get enough of the Obama teleprompter comments. I hope the independents get behind Santorum. We don’t need a big government Romney, or Gingrich; we already have an Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, I don’t want a Pastor of the United States either.

    • Anonymous

      Nor did our Founders, nor do Christians. We just want someone who doesn’t give orals in the Oval Office or seeks to convert America into the second rise of the Soviet Union where atheism (which sits in opposition to American values) replaces Christian principles.

      “[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

      “I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that “except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.” – Benjamin Franklin (Source: James Madison, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, Max Farrand, editor (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1911), Vol. I, pp. 450-452, June 28, 1787.)

    • 11Steve11

      I am sure that his advisors told him that he needed to say this.

  • wodiej

    Why does Santorum think we need to be told this? Just because everyone doesn’t wear their belief in God on their sleeve doesn’t mean they are any less a believer than someone who sits in church every week-lots of hypocrites there. The only thing I get from Santorum’s message is his so called values but what can he do for this country? Gingrich is a believer too. Making mistakes makes him no less worthy than Santorum and he’s got the experience to boot.

    • Anonymous

      First, he was implying that there’s more to his ability to govern than simply his faith. So, in effect, he was agreeing with you.

      Second, there are just as many, if not MORE, hypocrites who do NOT sit in a Church every week. Hypocrisy is not a phenomenon unique to the Church, but to mankind in general.

  • cabensg

    Watch this and compare Santorum to Newt.

  • Anonymous

    Faith vs. Reason is a false dichotomy. If the Christian faith is anything, it is entirely rational. We don’t check our brains at the door and take a blind leap. The force of Truth persuades us.
    (But I’ll give Rick a pass on this.) :)

  • Anonymous

    Faith and reason are inseparable.

    Laws of logic are contingent on God. They are a reflection of the way God thinks. Thus, they cannot exist without Him any more than your reflection in a mirror can exist without you. Since God is a thinking being and since He has always existed, laws of logic have always reflected His thinking.

    The Christian believes in universal, immaterial, invariant entities because God is himself omnipresent, immaterial, and invariant. Moreover God has thoughts, and these thoughts are reflected in the way God upholds the universe. As one example, the law of non-contradiction reflects God’s internal consistency: all truth is in God (Colossians 2:3), and God cannot deny himself (2 Timothy 2:13); therefore, all truth cannot be contradictory. The Christian worldview makes sense of the law of non-contradiction.

    The atheist cannot make sense of the laws of logic because there is no rational justification for universal, immaterial, invariant entities in an atheistic universe. In particular, those atheists who hold to a materialistic philosophy cannot make sense of laws of logic because laws of logic are not material.

    Faith and reason are inseparable.

  • http://magnusorerar.blogspot.com Magnus A

    If Santorum repeat he will not be the pastor of America I may believe him, but than he got to preach!

    Btw, Ann Coulter don’t seem to like that so called conservatives criticize Romney for having money (and I know that Santorum hasn’t done that). I think she’s right!

    http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2012/02/08/plutocrat_dems_attack_romney_as_richie_rich/page/full/

    Hope I don’t piss u off completely (or maybe I hope that — forgive me ;) ).

    • Anonymous

      I can think of far worse worldviews to represent us than that of a godly man. Our Founders were godly men, and as a result they gave us the United States of America. Reagan himself was a godly man, and everyone views him as a Conservative icon of greatness. Why was he great? because he understood first principles.

      “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” — John Adams (Source: Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (Washington D. C.: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904), Vol. XIII, p. 292-294. In a letter from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson on June 28, 1813.)

  • 11Steve11

    So the attacks begin. It is refreshing to hear a candidate for president acknowledge the supremacy of the Lord God! It has been a while!

  • Jay

    Churches need to revoke their non-profit status and start going after clowns like Obama, Pilosi and Reid from the pulpit.

  • Trust1TG

    For more on faith, reason, and the assault on Christianity and the Constitution, here is a pastor’s inspirational introduction of Newt Gingrich at a church in Nevada:
    http://therightube.com/2012/02/jim-garlow-delivers-fiery-introduction-for-newt-gingrich/

    The pastor talks about the link between Christianity in the history of our nation. He also said that over the years, a total of 700 pastors have sent tapes of sermons that talk about faith and politics to the IRS and they haven’t heard peep about revoking their tax-exempt status.

  • Anonymous

    Good point… it would be refreshing to have a modest, humble, God-loving and God-honoring president in the White House. A president who SERVES God bot doesn’t think he IS God.

  • Anonymous

    Reminds me a bit of Ned Flanders, wouldn’t you say?

  • Anonymous

    Here are my two cents on one of the many difference between Romney and Santorum. Santorum seems genuine and passionate in his speeches. He makes me believe that he is telling the truth. Romney comes across as pandering to the crowd and not trying to be conceived as a flip-flopper. Santorum seems more truthful and that is what I want in a President.