School Daze – The Dumbing Down Of American Schools

In every state and county, schools districts are crying out for more money. For what? Higher pay for teachers unions? For teachers who can’t teach? And for those teachers that can teach, what are the children learning? To hate themselves because they don’t bow low enough to Gaia (mother Earth)?

Critical Race Theory perhaps?

Zinn, Alinsky, Chomsky, Said?

Pseudo-history. Racial politics. Goracle non-science. God is dead perhaps? Legal positivism?

Yes, all of the above.

Who is writing your children’s textbooks these days? Bill Ayers and the Annenberg Project maybe?

Ah yes and there are no winners and losers in sports either. Everybody is “special”.

Yeah sure. While corrupting the minds of your children, the system wishes to keep them medicated with a cocktail of four different amphetamines or some synthetic cocaine.

How’s that working out? We got a culture of little zombies who’ve been medicated needlessly. This country doesn’t need any members of some groupthink borg. It needs independent analytical thinkers, movers and shakers.

Ellis Washington posits that “It was about 100 years ago when Russian communist tyrant Vladimir Lenin said, “Give me four years to teach the children, and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” Why did Lenin just want the children? Because Marxists, socialists and fascists are all such master manipulators of human nature and understood that a child’s mind was essentially a tabula rasa (blank slate) whereby the State could purge their minds of any and all remnants of God, tradition, truth, liberty and rewrite their perverse Darwinian, Marxist and socialist worldview of history onto these impressionable young minds, which, if done systematically, would endure for 1,000 years.”

Its up to the parents, aunts, uncles and grandparents to help these kids move away from the lies that the schools are teaching them. The quest for absolute veritas is the road less traveled for these kids.

It is way past time to win back the culture.

Facism and Marxism have been shown by many historical examples to be an utter failure to do anything but kill people in large numbers.

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  • Don

    The president of the NEA was asked why they did not support the best interests of their students. He replied,”when students start paying union dues we will work in their best interests.” When you turn your public education over to unions, why do skyrocketing illiteracy and drop-out rates surprise anybody?

    • Rshill7

      Don, as you typed out that NEA President quote, could you sense the evil dripping from it?

      Students are paying union dues. They are paying with diminished opportunity. They are paying by not being nearly as proficient in standard subjects, elective subjects, and advanced subjects. They are paying by being subjected to the wanton politicization of science and other academic disciplines. They are paying by being shortchanged in the marketplace when they discover how little they’ve learned and how little they are qualified to do anything compared to others not hamstrung by the public school system.

      A cog in a Marxist machine needs no qualifications. It needs no critical thinking or leadership skills for sure. All it needs is blind allegiance and the ability to mesh with the rest of the machine. The more limited the ability to reason, the better.

      Our public schools are disaster zones. They do not educate, they uneducate. Better no school at all, than public school. We should call public schools what they are. The epitome of failure.

      • Don

        Great post,rshill7. There are areas of the country where unions are doing nothing but indocrinating our students into semi-illiteracy with no hope of being able to live on their own without the government or unions being their only hope for basic needs. Totalitarian goverments and dictatorships cannot exist until the masses become so subservient that independent thinking becomes non-existent. The progressives and RINOs are destroying the greatest nation on earth by dumbing down the American people to where they are dependent instead of independent. Obama is set on bringing our country to its knees and the American people are helping him do it. Like Clint Eastwood said,”Obama is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”

      • PatrickHenrysBody

        Well said.

      • 1endtimes2020

        Now we know why home schooling is growing in leaps and bounds. It’s the only recourse left for concerned parents. For parents who don’t have the time or skills to follow a homeschool curriculum, which are of the highest standards, private schools are the alternative.
        Regardless of the choice made, the cost to parents is a real sacrifice.
        Forthose who homeschool, a job has to be forefeited in order to have the time.
        For those who choose private schools, one job is used to pay for the school costs.
        This is the love those parents have for their children.
        Universities find homeschool/private school graduates very qualified for entrance. The parents then hope the leftwing professors will not be able to indoctrinate their children that they sacrificed so much for. Experience shows the students think for themselves quite well. There was a time when America didn’t have to be concerned about teachers and professors.

        • piperlord

          My daughter does homeschooling, and as long as you teach them to read and write, and basic math the rest is just automatic to them! I just saw their learning books this past summer and talked with her about it. She just oversees them to make sure they get it done… The work books are awesome – just like old day history. Glenn Beck has a store on his “Market Place” site that has fabulous tools for homeschooling, too!

    • TitaniumEagle

      That’s what’s fundamentally wrong with unionized education. Education is about students, not teachers. Do teachers deserve high salaries? Absolutely, if their students perform well. We need to abolish this silly tenure system, etc. before we can truly expect the public schools to get better.

      As always…if you can homeschool or afford private school for your kids, it’s worth it!

      • poljunkie

        My teacher son, has his Masters, and is in his 2nd year toward his Ph D.

        He earns 28, 000. a year. He is super well liked by the kids and the admin. He is at the top of the “scale” until he either completes his Ph.D or works for 6 more years.
        Then he will jump up to the mid 30’s.

        With his profession, if you arent in a union state- you do the job because you love the idea of TEACHING- and being a positive role model.

        • gunclinger

          Probably there are 15 layers of administrators over your son’s position, which is why the schools spend so much per student. The money never seems to trickle down to the classrooms.

          Best of luck to your son, and I pray he does not become “infected” with the disease of so many in government schools…

        • white531

          God Bless your Son.

        • keyesforpres

          Does your son know about It’s a great source for our history. He should teach about the book “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black and White”, along with all the other wonderful info at that site.

          • poljunkie

            Oh wow…I dont know if he knows about it, but I will forward the site to him. Thank you Keysfor. He is teaching humanites, Gov, and AP history this semester.
            He will love it.

            Many thanks!

            • Has your son taken the Hillsdale College Constitution courses pol?

              • poljunkie

                Yes he has AB’s. He thought it was amazing!. He only wished he was able to have his school kids take it.

                • Oh me too! I wish I could teach it to the co op group, although I did tell the moms about it. 😀

            • keyesforpres

              That’s perrrrrfect!

              Be sure he reads that book. If our kids are taught the truth about the dem party and what they did to blacks….most won’t want to be dem.

              It is amazing what blacks did coming out of all slavery. There was a black Speaker of the House not too long after the Civil War ended….Republican of course! The Southern state legislatures were pretty much all black and all Republican (blacks outnumbered whites in many/most(?) Southern states).

              It was a black man that probably won the Revolutionary War for us by pretending to be spying for the Brits when he was really spying for us.

              Truly great stuff!

    • PatrickHenrysBody

      In a video statement, this is what I have to say to the president of the NEA (especially that last few words that are uttered toward the end of the video):

      There you go mister president of the NEA, you self-aggrandizing pric….

  • FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK GOD we are now focusing on schools!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!! Please don’t let up…it’s so important! Fixing schools will, by itself, fix our other problems. We just have to stop letting them indoctrinate our children…

    • clockwindingdown

      Brian you are spot on. The left new that and that is how they got us where we are today. Reversing the course works the same way. It won’t happen over night but it will happen. We have to get and stay engaged, actively making our presence know. Schools boards will not bend to an individual, but a group will get their attention! Community organizing works for both sides…

      • EXACTLY!!! It’s pointless to stand on your own, but if you organize THEN your collective voices get heard! Spot on!

        • clockwindingdown

          One may start out as a lone wolf, but remember wolves are pack animals…

          Better to have some think you are nutty then to fall as their prey! If our approach is reasonable others will pay attention, some will join. The then you have a community that will need to be addressed… “I told 2 friends and they told 2 friends…”.

          • Orangeone

            And with social media it spreads faster and well beyond your network. Stick to facts on Twitter and many will follow you and retweet your facts.

      • 1endtimes2020

        It’s time to investigate the agendas of unions. They no longer are concerned about working conditions, so are in a make-work mode. Moreover, they must have been infiltrated by communists. Everything unions work for is either immoral or unethical. The first thing to do is petition our representatives to pass a bill that allows union members to opt out of paricipating in union mischief. Freedom of choice should not end with union membership.

      • physicsnut

        keep letting millions of obnoxious jerks into this country and you will not see ANYTHING reversed. It will get worse. It HAS been getting worse. That is the other half of the commie strategy. Demographics is destiny.

    • Patriot077

      You might be interested in this link to Kyle Olson’s work over at the breitbart site:

      He has done some amazing investigations in education and has an action group as well. I think it is called EAG

  • SineWaveII

    Adolf Hitler thought along the same lines, hence “The Hitler Youth”

  • JoeMontana16

    Sorry but that would take Christian’s doings something about it. They will not. They haven’t. Its a sad sad fact. Even parents who aren’t Christian’s but have a good train of thought will not. They haven’t. They will not. When you’re the majority and things turn out this way then its really sad. We who believe have let Him down miserably. We reap what we sow or what we have done nothing to stop.

    • clockwindingdown

      Gotcha, we know where you stand!

      Sometimes all people need is a nudge. Someone to start the ball rolling. You could start in your own community! You could get your own friends, family, neighbors involved.

      You could try!

      We all could!

      This did not happen over night, its has been taking shape for years. We are all guilty of sitting idly by and watching, complaining. They knew this and took action, they worked hard to separate us to make us think we were alone in noticing what they were doing.

      You and I have a choice, give in or get active and start fighting!

      • JoeMontana16

        Thank you. I needed a little push in the back

        • clockwindingdown

          We all need a swift kick, you can line up behind me…

  • BeyondPolls

    Yes. Take your children out of pubic schools. If you are a conservativeevangelical teacher, then stand up for what you believe in and dare them to fire you. We need the separation of church and state to be fixed in court, so we should create a crisis like the liberals do when they want judicial activism.

    • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

      Or home school. Yes, you CAN make it happen.

      • BeyondPolls

        This so much.

    • Orangeone

      Just curious, why conservative/evangelical teacher? Why not a Catholic teacher?

      • Catholics have historically tended to be Democrats (for whatever reason). I’m Catholic, and that fact blew me away…but it’s true!

        • Orangeone

          Just shouldn’t be excluded because of religion….I was shocked to learn most attorneys are liberal, thought wouldn’t be because of higher taxes, until I realized they profit from Dem regulations.

          • I agree, except that if you were picking teachers from a list, any teacher that shows “Catholic” without any other mitigating criteria should be excluded.

            Now if they were Catholic, but the list also said they were members of the NRA and, oh…say…Conservatives 4 Palin on Facebook, then I’d say they could be trusted! LOL!

            • Orangeone

              Just because they are evangelical, lutheran, baptist doesn’t make them conservatives.  I would just say conservative educators and that group is small enough. BTW, I am Catholic as well as conservative.

              • We’re both Catholic…

                But historically, Catholics have been equated to mean Democrat, because Catholics tend to be heavily populated in the inner-cities, coincidentally where most Democrats are located as well. So unless someone says “Conservative Catholic”, simply saying “Catholic” is understood to mean “Democrat Catholic”. I don’t like it either, but that’s just the way it is…

                Santorum and Newt shocked the world when they were discovered to be Republican Catholics…it’s just not normally the way it works. Even the POPE pushes for some Socialist ideals…

                WE are the exception, not the rule regarding Catholic Conservatives, and that is a HUGE reason I have not gone to Church in a very long time. I feel as if the Catholic Church has abandoned our kind, and even fed us to the wolves, and I’m having a hard time squaring that away with what I’ve learned from the Bible and from what I know to be true about our society, politics, and economics in general.

                • NCHokie02

                  I had a chaplain of mine say in church one day…”You need to get your political beliefs to line up with your faith.” He’s a huge conservative and I knew exactly what he was saying but was saying it in a way to not push anyone away that might be a democrat but to get them thinking. “Hey maybe the God is more important than the democrat party and their beliefs don’t follow His so perhaps I should change…”

                  He is exactly right though. How people, Catholics and evangelical blacks mostly, can claim to believe in the bible and strive to follow it and then vote for a party that shouts down God three times at the convention, is in support of abortion and is in support of gay marriage is beyond me. What’s more important here?? Politics or religion?? Politics ends with this life, religion doesn’t.

                • The last time I went to Church, I remember afterwards hearing that Planned Parenthood had sponsored the “post-church luncheon” (whatever that’s called), since apparently a lot of the members of the Church were also members of pro-abortion groups. That was my last straw. I’ve always heard Catholics supporting abortion in discussions before/after Church, but never before had I seen Catholics invite the Devil into God’s house.

        • Catholics have historically tended to be Democrats (for whatever reason). It’s because Catholic Doctrine supports social justice.

          • bobbybstrd

            and that has WHAT to do with Democrats? They keep people in poverty.

            Catholic doctrine also prohibits murdering babies, which Democrats support. So why the hypocrisy of Catholics?

      • BeyondPolls

        I count Catholics as evangelicals. Sorry for the confusion.

        • Orangeone


        • bobbybstrd

          The only confusion is that you consider a Catholic an Evangelical.

          • BeyondPolls

            I don’t see how they aren’t but I guess that’s my personal opinion.

            • A few are but many are not. Too many follow the traditions which for Catholics is more troubling than it might be for others.

              • BeyondPolls

                Then I would rather refer to ourselves as the Moral Majority rather than worry about semantics.

            • Historically, Catholics typicall are separated from Evangelicals. I’m not sure why, but they are. Just look at almost any Political Survey among the religious, and they are almost always separated by religions and then collated between “Evangelical”, “Catholic”, “Agnostic”, and “Atheist”. I don’t know why, but they are!

  • jrt1031

    Teachers unions and schools that are run by the goverment have destroyed any sense of good in education. Schools should be run on local as need basis……..

    • sjmom

      Doesn’t always help to be locally run; depends on the people.

      • Orangeone

        Must be able to discipline and fire them.

  • mrsjg

    Totally agree 911infidel!! Took our kids out of school in the early 80’s to homeschool them…….never, never regretted it. They went onto college and got degrees.

    • wodiej


    • 911Infidel


    • Orangeone

      I was in public school because my mom worked but she ensured that I studied hard, did extra studies and taught me practical living skills like budgeting, reconciling my checkbook, living within my means, saving, etc. If you cannot home school or find a way for your kids to join a home school or charter school, carefully review the textbooks, homework, etc., challenging the falsehoods and supplement your children’s knowledge.

      • mrsjg

        I agree!!

  • bjohnson55

    There is hope out there, it requires sacrifice, dedication and allot of work. Three words which seem to have been lost by at least 50% of this country (the liberal 50% that is). It is called Home Schooling!! I am here to tell you it is not easy or is it something for the weak of heart but it is the only option for those who cannot afford private school tuition.

    • wodiej

      Congrats to you as well for putting your kids first.

  • CO2isGood

    ..from 4th thru 12th we homeschooled our son. When he went to college, and had to take quite a few so-called social sciences, to get his Criminal Justice Degree, he could not believe the tripe being “taught” by liberal professors to the mushheads.

    He still rants about “Holocaust Lady” his name for the woman who taught a holocaust class, that was Jewish and yet somehow managed to be vehemently anti-israel.

    One of the braver students that challenged her propaganda regularly, got high B’s on every test, but was rewarded with a D at the end of the semester.

    • wodiej

      Ah, a smart parent who solved the dilemma by homeschooling. Congrats.

  • Nukeman60

    Yes, Stalin, Hitler, and North Korea, as examples, have all used the technique of brainwashing our children. Obama knew to go after the youth, as well. Even the idiot Al Gore knew that if he could convince the children of global warming, he would be way ahead, so he tells them they know more than their parents.

    Many have found the solution to be homeschooling. But the problem in our schools can’t be fixed as long as it is run by unions. Bust the public sector unions and teachers can get back to doing the job they were supposed to do.

    Any teacher that wants to teach for the benefit of the children, rather than the benefit of the union, will find themselves on the outside looking in.

    • Oh I remember that Nukefriend! I’ve saved that for a near future CFP “propaganda” film 😉

    • clockwindingdown

      If you want an idea of how bad it can really be in North Korea read or listen to the audio book “Escape from Camp 14, by Blain Harden”. Your local library may even have it. I highly recommend it so people can get a vision of what these people are capable of, what they are doing as I type.

      This is the real story of a person born into a North Korean work camp for sins of his ancestors. What life was like and how human life means nothing. How people can be taught to not know the concept of love, trust, freedom, family. Of his escape and how foreign the rest of the world is.

      This is what leftism leads to and creates, this is what the world lets happen by these same people that claim they care, you know, the social justice crowd!

      • 911Infidel

        I caught that documentary on Netflix this past week. It is must see viewing. NK is what man-made utopia looks like. The left thinks that they are the righteous holders of government and morality. The truth is that they are nothing more than genetic mutations of the same commie disease that infects places like NK.

        • clockwindingdown

          I am not aware of a documentary! Do tell, I’m all ears?

          • Nukeman60

            I just checked my Netflix and there’s a documentary called Camp 14: Total Control Zone. It is about the life of Shin Dong-huyk, who escaped at the age of 23.

            Is that the same guy?

            • clockwindingdown

              Yep, I believe thats him! I’ll have to check into that. I dropped Netflix a while back, guess I better check the library… I would be interest in seeing that too!

              • Nukeman60

                It’s on their instant queue, so it doesn’t even require the disc to watch. Thanks for the heads up about the story. I’ll be watching it tonight.

                • clockwindingdown

                  I would be interested in hearing feed back…

    • Eric Holder knew the value of indoctrination as well (as did all of Obama’s mentors).

  • wodiej

    why do parents keep sending their kids to public schools? Home school or Christian schools. Problem solved. Don’t want to cut back on unneeded expenses, big vehicles and houses, then dont’ complain.

    • Watchman74

      That will work until they decide to make home schooling illegal.

    • Because Public School is an 18-year Day-Care system. The world is so freakin’ harsh these days, that both parents must work and send their kids to school if for no other reason than to keep them safe while they are at work. It’s not right, and these days it doesn’t even get the kids an education…but it’s still the way it is, and that’s what the Left counts on.

      Leftist strategy: Tax people so hard that both parents must work, leading to mandatory Public School Attendance for their children where they will be indoctrinated for 18 years to hate their parents and the values they tried to teach their children. When the kids are old enough to live on their own, they will be unable to since they’ll have no skills to offer the world and no job because there are none, and then they will become permanent residents of the Liberal plantation because they will have no other way to survive.

      It’s worked pretty damn well so far…

      • Orangeone

        Agreed in large part. Public school is a taxpayer funded day care system and with the number of children raised by one parent explodes, that one parent is either working or is following the edict to continue to multiply on the public dole.

      • white531

        Good point .

      • Leftist strategy: Tax people so hard that both parents must work
        Tax rates are nowhere near that level.

        • poljunkie

          Piniella, looks like you found a new place to play tonight.

          Doesn’t matter. 30%- 40% is too much. Combine that with FICA, and all the other deductions and YES many households find it necessary for both parents to work.

          How old are you? Do you have kids? Are you married? Do you work?

          • many households find it necessary for both parents to work. I grew up in that sort of home and taxes have nothing to do with it.

            • poljunkie

              Thats nice. Hard to imagine your folks discussed their 1099 with you when you were a child.

              AND Yes- I did too. My dad worked damn hard. Many days 18 hours a day. My mom worked as well.

              Once again I ask, are you married? Do you have kids? Do you work? Does your spouse? Of what do you base your opinion? I can tell you- I am married. Almost 30 years. We work, we have a child. We own our house- Its not upside down, but damn close.

              Husband has his Ph D. I’m a college graduate. WE BARELY MAKE IT. We arent in the top 5%, we arent the 20%…… We are middle class and we pay a lot of taxes. Income, property, state, fed, payroll, we pay taxes on groceries, taxes on gas, taxes on our cell phone (to cover all those free cell phones for others), taxes on our utilities….The list is endless.

              • Of what do you base your opinion? Facts

                • What kind of bag are you? Douche

                • poljunkie

                  Thats good, lets seem em.

                • poljunkie

                  Im guessing you’re not married, dont have kids – since you dont answer the questions. So no personal experience re the “have to work” to make it scenario.
                  Living at home, in a dorm, or even alone- is a far cry from a family experience.
                  Get back to me when you have details.

  • Excellently said 911Infidel.

    Home School. I’ve done it on less than 300.00 a year. I choose the books, true American History, Biblically based Biology and Science. Classic literature. Constitutional American Government studies, Biblically based World History and Geography.

    We need work to abolish the Dept. of Education and give education responsibilities back to the parents, counties and States. Cut ties with the NEA.

    • wodiej


    • 911Infidel

      That’s my kind of curriculum: heavy on veritas, dismissive of half-steppers. Good job.

    • Orangeone


    • warpmine

      You know very well that liberal parents abdicated that responsibility to the state and damn anyone for telling them otherwise.

      • Orangeone

        Exactly with taxpayers picking up the tab for their state-funded daycare.

      • Yeah I know. SO they will whine when we get rid of the fed in our schools- but who cares. Let them whine and take responsibility for once.

    • All you are missing is a physical education and an arts class. Arts as in the art of shooting that rifle that defends that Constitution that defends that Bible.

      • I didn’t mention all the other subjects we’re learning lol, didn’t want to bore folks. He does have archery class, Bible studies, Spanish and French, math, home ec (he’s only 12 and he likes to cook!) and dad will hopefully do shop with him next year working on cars. And yes art too. He likes painting and is showing promise in it.

        • I’d probably not concentrate too heavily in the arts (unless they are arts that he actually enjoys) and art histories. But good on ya for studying Bible, Foreign Languages, Math, and even Home Ec (men that can cook are a rare-breed these days)!

          You are doing great!

          • I just do the arts becuase I do the arts lol and he’s always wanting to paint when I do. He’s actually quite good!

            • Then by all means keep it up!!! I’m really too tired to accurately convey what I’m trying to…convey! LOL!

              I guess what I meant to say is that since (in my opinion) Math, Science, and History (with Language as the most important elective) are the most important aspects of schooling that will do him the most good on his resume as an adult, you shouldn’t (in my opinion) schedule things like underwater basket weaving (or other Liberal Arts) in place of those subjects. If you have spare time, then by all means broaden his horizons with arts and other electives (especially if he likes to paint!), but never take away any time from those 4 subjects.

              You have a much better idea than I do as far as Home Schooling! Hell, I don’t even have kids! LOL!

              • lol. Just like my old teachers used to do to us… they don’t get to do the fun stuff until they get the boring hard stuff done! 😀 No basket weaving here. Painting is one thing, but liberal arts noooo way.

                • Oh good…You understood what I meant! LOL! That was what I was trying to say…somehow, I pulled my conversation muscle recently! Hahaha!!!

                • lol knock it off. I knew what you meant and you said it just fine. You might not have kids, but you’ve got common sense Brian. Some day you’ll make a great dad! 😀

    • And you’ve done one HELL of a job too!!! I’ve seen you on Facebook, ALWAYS trying to make your curriculum exciting and interesting, while still trying to teach your boy values, morals, and an EXCELLENT education!!! You are doing GREAT!!!

      • Aw thanks Brian! It’s hard, and I can’t claim he enjoys it all, but I’m determined to teach anyway 🙂 Thank you so much for your kind words!!!

        • Kids NEVER enjoy schooling (or learning of any kind, really)! But kids never like what’s good for them (by definition, THAT is why they are kids!).

    • Orangeone

      And bust 100% of the teachers unions while we are at it. Bring down the cost and increase the quality of education and it’s win/win for families and taxpayers.

      • We aim to bust all unions. Right to work in every state. They’re gonna hate the CFP!!!

    • Biblically based Biology and Science. FAIL

      • Yeah ok. Keep believing that.

        • Yeah ok. Keep believing that. Did you know that the Bible claims the Moon shines all by itself?

          • No. do tell.

            • In Genesis 1:16 says “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”

              • Yes, well the moon does reflect the sun’s light. And the fact that it is called the lesser light points to that.

                Got any more?

                • Yes, well the moon does reflect the sun’s light. And the fact that it is called the lesser light points to that. LOL!!!

                • Isaiah 13:10 also says that the moon is a source of light. “moon shall not cause her light to shine.”

                • you forgot the part that comes before that, the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

                  So, does the moon shine when the sun is darkened? Obviously not if the moon reflects the light of the sun.

                • Speaking of stars, Job 38:31 Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?

                  Interesting The cluster of the Pleiades is an odd one out as far as star clusters go. Because of the small amounts of dust and gas between the stars in the cluster, it is called a galactic or open cluster, but unlike many such open clusters, it is not breaking up. It is the classic example of a ‘bound’ cluster. The energies of motion of the individual stars cannot ever overcome the ‘chains’ of gravity and allow them to move away from the cluster. Nor, indeed, is the cluster expanding which is uncommon as the reverse is usually true of all open or galactic clusters.

                  And as for Orion’s belt, the fact that pretty much the whole constellation is made up of one massive cluster of stars is in itself unusual. Most constellations are made up of stars merely in line of sight and separated by huge distances. The Orion grouping all lie about 1600 light years away. Despite its size of about 350 light years diameter and despite the vast quantities of gas and dust it contains, the whole system is unstable and is steadily expanding. The gravitational “bands” holding the constellation together have indeed been loosed, just as God said to Job.

                • It could also be translated “and the moon shall not reflect light”.
                  The Hebrew word here for the moon’s light is a CAUSATIVE, a. That expresses a cause or reason; also, that effects as a cause. That means that the moon is reacting to effects from the sun.

                  Just because you read an English version that appears to be conflict with science does not mean in any way that the original Hebrew or Greek is too.

              • OK, I’ll come up with some. People used to think the earth was flat. The Bible describes the earth as a circle, a sphere Isaiah 40:22 Job 26:7 describes the north and the fact that the earth is suspended in space with nothing holding it up. Other religions believed something held up the earth. Ancient Greeks thought Atlas held up the earth on his shoulders. Hindus thought the earth was held up by an elephant, which rested on a turtle.

                Then there are “paths of the sea” in Psalms 8:8. Matthew Maury, considered the father of oceanography read this passage and used it to have sailors help him chart the paths. Because of his taking the passage of Psalms, sailing and shipping which once took months to cross oceans were able to follow the ocean currents.

                What about the surface under the seas? Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
                Scientists couldn’t discover ocean springs and chimneys until submarines and sonar.

                Psalm 107:23,24 describe th Lord’s wonders of the deep. Again, scientists were not able to discover so many things in the deep oceans until the late 1700s when the first diving bells were invented. Even then they weren’t able to see all there was in the deep.

                The Bible talks about tides. And the hydrological cycle Eccl 1:6-7; 11:3; Job 26:8; Amos 9: – even though the water cycle was never understood until around 30 BC by the Romans.

                What about health and hygene?
                When dealing with disease, hands should be washed under running water Leviticus 15:13 Hospitals didn’t start washing hands until the 1800s when Dr.Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis discovered that hand washing between patients reduced the mortality rate of patients contracting diseases. His ideas later were proven correct by Louis Pasture and Joseph Lister.

                I could go on and on, but it’s getting late, and we have school in the morning.

                • Pytheas travelled to the British Isles about 325 BC and seems to be the first to have related spring tides to the phase of the moon.

                  In the 2nd century BC, the Babylonian astronomer, Seleucus of Seleucia, correctly described the phenomenon of tides in order to support his heliocentric theory.[35] He correctly theorized that tides were caused by the moon, although he believed that the interaction was mediated by the pneuma. He noted that tides varied in time and strength in different parts of the world. According to Strabo (1.1.9), Seleucus was the first to link tides to the lunar attraction, and that the height of the tides depends on the moon’s position relative to the sun.[36]

                • Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.

                  Job 30:14 They came upon me as a wide breaking in of waters: in the desolation they rolled themselves upon me

                  Experts generally agree that the Book of Job is the oldest book in the Bible and was written some time around 1280 and 1270 BC

                  Psalm 93:4 The LORD on high is mightier than the noise of many waters, yea, than the mighty waves of the sea.

                  Psalm 147:18 He sendeth out his word, and melteth them: he causeth his wind to blow, and the waters flow.

                  I don’t know when Psalm 93 was written, but 147 seems to have been written after the return of the exiles to Jerusalem from Babylonian captivity (beginning 535 B.C.)

  • 57thunderbird

    Eliminate the Dept. of Education and return control of public schools back to state and local control.Problem solved.Oh yes,and more parental involvement with their students and local school boards would also be advantageous.Get the feds out of public education!

  • colliemum

    Perhaps they don’t teach that yet in your schools – they certainly are doing it over here: teaching pupils how to get on at the “Jobseekers” office, how to get benefits from the government – and especially how to play that system.

    We learned that this was going on in the aftermath of the infamous ‘London Riots’ in August 2011, when the ‘teachers’ and ‘social workers’ were flabbergasted that their precious pupils weren’t content with getting free stuff from the government, but actually wanted more free stuff, which they then robbed and looted from the stores.

    • clockwindingdown

      How could it be that they were not getting enough free stuff! How could they have been failed so, oh the humanity!

      Here we forcibly took from other people and gave them free things, now they reject our graciousness and are demanding more. What have we done to deserve these ingrates?

      I know, we’ll give more, that will teach them! Yeah that will make them sorry, they’ll come crawling to us, kissing our feet from appreciation of all our doings.

      (sarc off)

      • colliemum

        You got it – thats exactly how out socialist teachers were wailing on the TV channels!

        Mind – they have some far more serious wailings to do. The current government has an Educational minister who has been repeatedly voted the best minister in cabinet. People were screaming that he be left alone to do his job and not be given another post because he is so outstanding. His name is Michael Gove – and his school reform plans are slowly coming into being.
        The socialists and the teachers’ trade unions have been screaming blue murder ever since he took his oath of office. He’s doing good!

        • clockwindingdown

          Then you and others that support him need to let him know you will back him. You have to put feet on the grounds where he is to show support. You have to better that socialist, user their own tactics on them.

          We have to fight. Every generation has had to fight against these ideologues that destroy everything with which they interact.

          They are the nature of man that causes wars, suffering, hatred. They are the cause of every struggle man has faced through mans existence.

          We set complacent thinking we were to smart, we wouldn’t fall for that same old trick again. Went about our daily lives living from the benefits that previous warriors passed to us, only to let the same evil they had sacrificed against leach its way back into our societies. With each step of its ugliness thinking to ourselves “that is evil someone should do something”. Yet we went about blaming others for not acting, not sacrificing, so that we could continue the reap the benefits others have fought for.

          Now our children and grandchildren face the consequences of our inactions. We can let them pay or we can show them we can fight, that they must fight, that the fight never ends, will never end! That as long as there is thought someone or something will seek for control of others, and that is not expectable!

    • they (gove) teach it on mex. TV stations – how to get all the freebies….

  • NJK

    Excellent, thank you.

  • NJK

    We need to start by cutting off their funding, through the Dept. of Education. That will take removing this old guard of Republicans and replacing them with constitutional statesmen, who will not give the Goebbels media their time on TV. Who will also ignore the cries of you hate the children when they ensue. They need to shout back, the states are responsible for education money, not the Federal Govt. I never hear any of the old guard even try to explain this to the public. They just fold, like a cheap suit.

  • Yazz55

    Calling them schools would be incorrect.
    They are marxist indoctrination centers for children.

    Calling them teachers would be incorrect.
    They are indoctrinators and / or brainwashers.

    • 57thunderbird

      The same holds true of colleges and universities.

      • poljunkie

        During college our son had some professors that pretty much said…either rewrite these papers with “my” perspective or you’ll fail. This, after a series of anti war lectures. Beginning with the Vietnam era- to Iraq/Afghanistan.

        Our son was like, well, my dad is an Army Veteran, and your opinion doesnt match my beliefs. This went back and forth for sometime- and inevitably our son wouldnt cave.

        • Orangeone

          I had one of those. I wrote a paper in Abnormal Psycho class on why a young man who took an ax to his family and then went shopping with mom’s debit card and prepared for escape was not insane and should be tried for 1st degree murder and the death penalty re-instated. The professor went crazy about how the boy was misunderstood. I reported her!

          Convicted on 3 counts of 1st degree murder!

          Edit to add link.

          • poljunkie

            Misunderstood my a$$.

            Good for you for reporting her.

            • Orangeone

              [email protected] [email protected] b!tch.  She gave me a C and I protested that and the Committee awarded the well-deserved A.

              • poljunkie

                Awesome! My college days were horribly liberal as well- but I was less interested in politics then and much more interested in music.

                My son- is another story. He, esp in college wouldnt take crap from the teachers—

                He was in an extremely challenging academic grammar elementary and then junior high private schools. Sooo hard.
                Sheesh the homework nearly killed my husband and me. Hours and hours every night. Frankly, looking back it might have beneficial if we did homeschool him because we spent as much time working with him….but with some one elses agenda. Then years later we found out he was bullied.
                Our heart sank.

                Anyway- for high school, we looked for a small public school because we thought at the time he had been way too sheltered and we wanted him to have a taste of the real world. We found a school with a total enrollment of 300. The school was fairly new- had engaging teachers, super interested, and involved, and as I said the teachers although many were liberal….many werent it was pretty evenly divided….The admin is actually more conservative in their views which was awesome for us….It worked out because he did get a taste of real life… He was able to do all the regular high school stuff, be team captain, attend prom (even tho it was miserable), and have to make decisions about partying and cutting class.

                He is determined to be open minded as a teacher. He is trying to teach without political bias…BUT HE HAS noticed that the majority of the students today, dont even have a dog in the fight. Unless he sits them down and educates them – they are clue less. The exception are the kids who have parents in the military.

                • Orangeone

                  Every student he teaches to independently think is a benefit to our country!  We need more teachers like your son.

              • And those teachers have virtually guaranteed that us Conservatives will stay quiet. I say “virtually” because I REFUSE to stay quiet when the teachers attempt to spread LIES in class to my fellow classmates who are MUCH younger than me and are not yet accustomed to questioning adults in public…but I AM, and I show them that they can too! TEACHERS HATE THAT about me, but they have NEVER successfuly screwed me for that (nor will they ever)…

                • Orangeone

                  Good for you Brian! Stand your ground. You are paying for college not an indoctrination lesson.

    • Orangeone

      I caution to bring up that many want these same indoctrinators armed in classrooms filled with children.

      • It is quite a conundrum, but I’d rather that than the Government repealing the 2nd Amendment…

        • Orangeone

          It will never happen. Even this Dem says no and points to mental health.

          • God I pray you are right…Unfortunately, Obama has enough control through Executive Orders to essentially regulate guns out of existence. The President is in charge of regulations, and he can quite easily decide that Background Checks will now take 20 years if he wants to, or change the criteria that will be looked at in Background Checks, or change the fees for firearm registration (or even make the fees ANNUAL), etc.

            He can make it so burdensome to own a firearm that no one will be able to (much like his plan for coal-powered power plants, where he said that he wouldn’t make them illegal, but it would be so cost-prohibitive to own one that no one would be ABLE to own one). THIS is the nature of the beast we are dealing with.

            • Orangeone

              He tries to use EO and he will feel the wrath of Americans.  He is not beyond impeachment and like with Nixon, happened in the 2nd term and no one was murdered, no constitutional provisions were restrained.  It’s already been on the web that the SS is exhausted dealing with the death threats from 4 years….

            • .Unfortunately, Obama has enough control through Executive Orders to essentially regulate guns out of existence. This is not true

    • Calling them schools would be incorrect.
      They are marxist indoctrination centers for children.


  • Useful idiots making a noose for us AND themselves:

    As illustrated in Alex Jones’ “New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen” (below), here are just a few countries that have slaughtered millions in the past century:
    China (PRC) (1949 – 1987) — 76,702,000 people killed.

    USSR (1917 – 1987 ) — 61,911,000 people killed.

    Western Colonialism (combined) — 50,000,000 people killed.

    Hitler’s Germany (1933 – 1945) — 20,946,000 people killed, including their own population.

    Japan (1936 – 1945) — 5,964,000 people killed.

    Pol Pot’s Cambodia (1975 – 1979) — 2,035,000 people killed. Pol Pot was funded by U.S. government.

    The death toll is so big, the horrifying devastation is hard to fathom. The list of serial killing governments goes on and on. For more statistics on governments murdering their citizenry, visit the University of Hawaii’s democide webpage.

    What did many of these slain people have in common? They were disarmed. In many cases, bans on firearm possession left the majority of guns in the hands of a state who then turned its weapons against its own people.

  • Nice write up. As a student of the public school, I can saw it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is today back is 2000/2001. Now a days, the stuff I hear about coming out of school is quite shocking. Most school curriculum today is Anti-American, Anti-White (Yeah, I said it), Pro-Marxist/Anti-Capitalist, Pro “Oppressed Minorities” and openly hostile to anyone with a different opinion. All’s I can say, home school, home school and more home school.

    • poljunkie

      I graduated in 77.

      My high school went thru race riots. It lost its accreditation for a few years during the years preceding my arrival to the school.
      Although the school had some good teachers, I NEVER received any life preparation or career planning advice. The counseling and advising center consisted of a room with college books and catalogs. Im speaking of a large city school with an enrollment population of over 3300.
      It’s a wonder that I turned out so well! I attribute that to my family. ☺
      Its funny, I just looked up the school on the internet and it is still public but has turned very competitive.
      For the 2006-2007 school year, It was the most competitive district high school in demand with 3,430 applicants. Out of the top 3 most requested high schools, It was the most competitive public high school in terms of admission rate with an acceptance rate of 17.31%.
      When I attended, if you lived in the district, you attended, except for those “bused” in.
      But wow! Only 6.3 % of the students are white.

      • PVG

        I also had riots in high school. Plus we were also blessed with the CRIPS. My high school is now 1% white.

        • poljunkie

          Wow. My junior high experienced the race riots as well. People I was friendly with the week before, had absolutely no problem slugging me or my (light skinned toned) friends on the stairwell.
          It was pretty scary.

          • One of my High Schools was an ACTUAL jail! The town needed a new school, but the animals living in that town were so freakin’ violent they decided to convert a jail into a school and then to just build a new jail to house the prisoners. So my school had a fully-staffed police station inside it.

            My first year at the school (9th grade), a White girl got her face slashed with a razor blade by a black girl due to a “weave” disagreement. White girl didn’t like the black girl’s hair, so she got put into the ICU when the black girl pulled a razor-blade out of her teeth…

            Not to mention the time I woke up in the hospital after getting jumped in a field by multiple black guys while I was walking home from school (also 9th grade), and then choked out with barbed wire. Good times were had by all…

            THESE are the types of warnings I keep telling people we all had, and THESE warnings got ignored (and for the most part people are STILL ignoring these warning signs). Until we fix THESE problems, America will NEVER get fixed…

            • poljunkie

              Oh my goodness.

              • poljunkie

                What city? How terrible!!!

                • Sumter, SC…

                • WordsFailMe

                  100 years ago Sumpter was a lot different. 200 years ago it was even better.

                • I’ll bet! I was there from 1996-2004, and it was nice when I first got there and steadily went downhill. As it is, I remember seeing kids snorting cocaine during recess in 4th grade…

  • poljunkie

    My son is a teacher. He made it thru college hanging on to his priciples and beliefs. He teaches with conviction, and feels like he is making a difference.

    We live in a right to work state so he is non union. His district just lost a lot of funding for the school year starting in August. There were two components to the funding failure. One was state- and other local.

    As of August 18 teachers are being let go.

    He is also a coach- and he doesn’t buy into the “everyones” special memo. You work hard, you’re rewarded. You dont have to be the best, or the most valuable- but you have to try your darndest.

    While I totally agree that the public school have a tremendous liberal bias, and the bent with the association to the teachers union/Dem party is hideous – I think we should acknowledge that there are some good and decent educators out there who arent progressive.

    I know, I raised one.

    • Orangeone

      Good to hear he is nonunion and has stuck to his beliefs and learnings! If he loses his job, he should start a home school for those families that cannot stay home or charter school. Might be great if he could form a nonprofit to do it so people can make tax deductible donations to support his efforts!

    • PVG

      Bravo PJ! And God Bless your son.

      • poljunkie

        Thank you PVG. He’s an awesome twenty something year old. AND during college he took a lot of grief.

  • Doesn’t she read the news? Guns are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad:
    “LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A Georgia mother hid her two 9-year-old twins and shot an intruder, Paul Ali Slater, several times during a home invasion on Friday, according to multiple media reports.”

  • There is a federal effort going on right now to take over education and put in Agenda 21 types of things. Common Core is then end of American education.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Amen. I agree with what you said Scoop, 100%.

    I thank God that we are able to send my daughter to a private, Christian school – even though, honestly, we can’t afford it. I hope it pays dividends in the future though.

    Public, government-run schools have been poisoned and it sickens me that they get away with this crap.

    And I thought Texas supplied most of the text books. No longer?

    • Orangeone

      I would even watch the curriculum and teachings there. I went to a private Catholic college….

  • sjmom

    When I was in real estate I had to know the local school districts to inform buyers when they were considering a home in certain district. NJ pubishes, or it did, a Schools Report because each district in this state can be as different as night from day though less than a mile from each other. What I found was the higher the per pupil cost the worse the school was rated educationally.

    I also searched for where my son would get the best education and found the higher the price of homes the better the district. It paid off because he is now a college grad working in medical sales, very happy and looking forward to a bright future. Or he was until Obamacare and the medical device tax.

    PS. Recently received in the mail a pamphlet of different courses adults can take at night from two nearby school districts. There are few worth any merit and noticed they are replete with psychic, Eastern religion and “chrystals”?

  • sybilll

    Great post, and very important, 911Infidel. I wish I had paid more attention to my daughter’s textbooks in high school, but I didn’t realize the indoctronation until she was in college. I literally had to debunk social justice conjecture more time than I can remember. And it is in ALL classes, as I even found it in her math classes. One of her elective classes had a textbook written by Juan Williams. Yes, THAT Juan Williams. I’ve got to be fair though, Juan must be more influenced by his Conservative sons than he lets on. His writing was far less liberal than anything I’ve seen him spew on TV.
    Great discussion to have.

    • [ I literally had to debunk social justice conjecture more time than I can remember. And it is in ALL classes, as I even found it in her math classes.] The “social justice conjecture” is supported by most Christian denominations in America. The math class claim would be somewhat more convincing if you provided an example.

      • sybilll

        I don’t know, (and perhaps I don’t want to know what Christian demonination with which you are affiliated, if any), but without having to go dig out her textbooks in the attic, there WAS redistribution of wealth used in countless math scenarios. i.e. (that means for example) “John and Susie have both incurred $11,000 in medical bills, John has excellent health insurance, while Susie is uninsured.” The scenario would go on to examine Susie’s income and budget, and how she can manage her indebtedness on the medical bills. Did you catch the “hook”? (it’s subtle, so you might have to loosen up your SEIU ballcap) “John has excellent health insurance, and Susie is uninsured”. John clearly owes it to Susie to lessen her financial woes because he is either earning more or working at a job that gives him better benefits that Susie also deserves. Susie may also have been disadvantaged because it was within her rights to wear a Vagina suit to an anti-Romney rally instead of going to work. Susie may also be burdened with bedding men that are not her husband, and she has to pay $3,000 per year for her contraception because of her promiscuity and the risk of being punished with a baby. Granted, if she finds out she is pregnant when her “zygote” is at 40 weeks gestation, she can have a partial birth abortion, but she may be unduly burdened with more medical bills if she can’t get the county or Medicaid to pay for it. She is clearly a victim.
        If you want me to go dig out the textbooks and scan countless actual examples of redistribution of wealth inserted in her math classes, I will be glad to do so.
        I find your comment pithy, accusatory, and condescending. But, if you want to come back with an honest declaration of your liberal position, I’d be happy to engage you. But, if you are from Rio Linda, I will overlook it.

        • I find your comment pithy, accusatory, and condescending. Well, 1 out of 3 isn’t bad.

        • Susie may also be burdened with bedding men that are not her husband


          • sybilll

            So? I don’t want to pay for the slut’s birth control, that’s what.

        • there WAS redistribution of wealth used in countless math scenarios. I doubt there were more than 5.

          • sybilll

            And you would be wrong. Do you realize that you are here shilling your liberal drivel to a committed, close-knit group of Conservatives that firmly believe you and your ilk have nearly destroyed our country? You might as well be pissing in the wind. Guess you’ve got to find something to do when Reddit is down for maintanence.

          • KenInMontana

            You’re done trolling here.

  • BikerHoop

    We sent our daughter to parochial schools during her elementary and junior high years, but then she had to go to public school for high school because there wasn’t a parochial high school in the area. She did all right, though, because we went over her lessons with her and explained the difference from what her books said and what the truth was.

    • Orangeone

      Excellent parenting BikerHoop!

      • BikerHoop

        Thanks. We decided we had to do something when she had a teacher who would revue what was supposedly on a test the next day and when she handed out the test papers, none of the stuff she covered was on there. She’d just sit at her desk in front of the room and giggle and talk to herself. When we talked to the administration they told us they had had numerous complaints but couldn’t do anything because of the union. Wow!

  • marketcomp

    Spot on, 911InFidel! I recently saw an article where Bill Aryers said that the school system is where the left must utilize it’s power. Here’s the link:

    This is another area that needs complete dismantling and any republican who is against dissembling the educational system is NOT a republican. These Marxist have used their cosmic bu**s*** about global warming and the environment to shape the young minds of America through public education. I remember Mark Levin talking about how Ronald Reagan wanted to dismantle the department of education and was unable to because of many republicans. Perhaps Ronald Reagan knew that this was fertile ground for communist indoctrination because of his experiences with communism up close and personal in Hollywood. And know we see the fruits of their labor.

    Those of us who have gone through public education know that indoctrination is exactly what is happening. When Bill Ayers, a convicted and unapologetic terrorist, says that this is fertile ground for the left it should immediately be taken notice of and broken down accordingly. The young minds full of mush, as Rush would say it, don’t know about the mass killings committed by Saddam Hussein, or Mao Tse-Tung, and so many other dictators. And because of this lack of knowledge the children will voluntarily learn and go to their own demise not understanding that the Constitution is the BEST defender of freedom and liberty and understanding of GOD given unalienable rights. Which are rights not given by a dictator or a President but by GOD! It is unconscionable what we have allowed to take place in our schools and in some instances parents sending their little ones and college age students to these institutions to be indoctrinated.

    • These Marxists have used their cosmic bu**s*** about global warming Marxism has nothing to do with the FACT of global warming.

      • marketcomp

        Prehaps you don’t understand. You can look up the information about east anglia here: Her’s the link:

        And you can read countless books about the fraud of global warming and climate change. School and inform yourself.

        • Prehaps you don’t understand. You can look up the information about east anglia here:

          This made the front page of Yahoo News:

          It also made Google News:

          Here are a few highlights from the full article:

          The study of the world’s surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data.

          …he found that the land is 1.6 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius) warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley, and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

          Muller’s research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

          “The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago,” Muller said in a telephone interview. “And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias.”

          I suspect that some of the gasbags will push this BS meme:

          …on Sunday, when a British newspaper said one of Muller’s co-authors, Georgia Tech climate scientist Judith Curry, accused Muller of another Climategate-like scandal and trying to “hide the decline” of recent global temperatures.

          The Associated Press contacted Curry on Sunday afternoon and she said in an email that Muller and colleagues “are not hiding any data or otherwise engaging in any scientifically questionable practice.”

          • marketcomp

            So what? All of your post proves nothing. It’s just cosmic bs, as I said earlier! The point is that laws and policies should not be made or manufactured using false information, manipulated data, scare tactics, and made-up science by people like Al Gore, who is NOT a scientist unless you call sexual twist with a masseuse science. Moreover IF there really was climate change or global warming we would know it from our own experiences. If the data collected from climate change’s supposedly authorities is reproducible then circumstances in their hypothesis would be repeated on some scale but that is NOT consensus, that’s science. I don’t know your objective nor do I care but neither you, Barack Obama, or John Kerry any other pseudo scientist can tell me that climate change is a made-up phenomenon to redistribute wealth from richer producing countries to the third world countries. And that’s not education so it has no place in the classrooms of America.

        • And you can read countless books about the fraud of global warming and climate change. Yeah but they are all published by Regnery and WND.

        • The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic
          By RICHARD A. MULLER
          Published: July 28, 2012

          Richard A. Muller, a professor of physics at the University of California, Berkeley, and a former MacArthur Foundation fellow, is the author, most recently, of “Energy for Future Presidents: The Science Behind the Headlines.”

          • tinlizzieowner

            “University of California, Berkeley,” You mean Berzerkeley, don’t you?
            MacArthur Foundation, huh. You mean this one?
            “The MacArthur Foundation supports creative people and effective institutions
            committed to building a more just, verdant, and peaceful world”.

            2 organizations deeply wrapped up in the ‘social justice, share the wealth’ game.
            😉 😉

    • GOD given unalienable rights
      There is no God

      • Prove it.

      • tinlizzieowner

        Well than maybe you ought to think about moving to a country where the Declaration of Independence doesn’t start with these words. 😉

        “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
        We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”.

        I hear Iran is nice this time of year. I’ll bet your “there is no God (Allah)” screed would go over well there. 😉 😉


    …AMERICA grab your children with LOVE and remove them from the INDOCDRINATION CAMPS of the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM . Hang onto your GUNS America hang onto your GUNS to defeat the TYRANNY that is surely coming . Secure your GOLD because your DOLLAR is going to be worth ‘ 0 ‘ (zero) . Most important pack your Bibles for you and your loved ones for enduring FAITH and to battle the EVIL of TYRANNY for it will come down to a battle of the SPIRIT WORLD . “

    • sjmom

      Its not going to come down to a battle of the spirit world……………it already is and if Christians don’t begin understanding this and put on the Armor and fight in the spirit with the Word, the Name and the Blood then Satan will take over this nation. As Paul wrote we aren’t fighting flesh and blood and I have done my best to tell people. However, Christians are overcome by fear and therefore are not able to wield any power. It’s time to fight not faint!

  • white531

    Thanks, 911Infidel. I share the sentiments of Brian Jones and others in applauding you for bringing this issue to the forefront. In order for Freedom to be able to survive in this country, it is imperative that we once again gain control of our nation’s educational system and return it to the purpose it was intended, instead of the one it is currently being used for.

    The quality of education in our public schools is a national disgrace.

    In an educational performance study done in 2006, ranking countries of the world in reading, math and science, the results were appalling.

    In reading, the United States was ranked #33 (there was no #34. The United States was ranked dead last).

    In math, we were ranked #27 out of 33 countries.

    In science, we did a little better. We were ranked #22 out of 33 countries.

    source link:

    This, despite the fact that we spend more money on education than most other countries.

    The United States spent $10,240 per student from elementary school through college in 2000, according to the report. The average was $6,361 among more than 25 nations.

    The report was part of an article published in USA Today in 2003, entitled, “U.S. tops the world in school spending but not test scores.”

    source link:

    I don’t know if there are more recent studies, but if there are, I am sure they are worse, not better.

  • white531

    The real issue though, is not the poor test scores. The real issue is what the students are being taught and how it is being taught.

    Our public schools, from Kindergarten all the way through Graduate school, are currently nothing more than indoctrination centers for the Progressive movement and the Communists among us.

    You’ve all heard the stories about how the Soviets infiltrated our schools and our government as early as the 1950’s, probably earlier than that. Well, it’s true, and there is plenty of documentation for it.

    Here is an article printed in 1954. It is mostly about the Soviets and their dream of world domination. A tad long, but incredibly interesting. Entitled,

    “The Techniques of Communism: INVADING EDUCATION.

    Here’s another that is more to the point of our discussion. If you only read one article, read this one.

    The Socialist Vision and Global Connections of the NEA.

    While this process mostly started with the Soviets, the techniques and processes involved were not lost on the Progressives, as the Progressive movement gained momentum and turned us in the direction of a One World Government and the Utopia they dream of.

    edit: grammar

    But its not exactly a Utopia, even though they are well on their way to putting it in place. The United Nations was the false front they used, and our schools and universities are the factories that are producing the new Americans who will inhabit this Progressive paradise.

    • Kordane

      Quote: “The real issue though, is not the poor test scores. The real issue is what the students are being taught and how it is being taught.

      No, the real issue is whether there should even be public schools in the first place.

      There should only be private schools.

      If you privatize the entire school system then you will solve many of the problems that the Left have created in the public school system. The market will not allow the Left to have absolute dominance over curriculum, scoring, teacher quality, etc.

      So long as the government stays out of private schooling (ie. no regulations, no taxes), then private schooling will become so incredibly cheap that even the poorest could afford it. In fact, there would be a massive variety of different quality schools to cater to different family incomes.

    • schools and universities are the factories that are producing the new Americans who will inhabit this Progressive paradise. Aside from all the Ivy League graduates on Wall Street.

    • Our public schools, from Kindergarten all the way through Graduate school, are currently nothing more than indoctrination centers for the Progressive movement and the Communists among us.

      LOL – You have bizarre notions of each because you conflate Progressivism and Communism.

      • tinlizzieowner

        A turd by any other name, still smells like a turd. 😉

        “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism (add progressive-ism) they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”
        “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform.”
        Norman Thomas, 1948

        Now, before you waste my valuable time dealing with the punctuation differences between Communism, liberalism and progressiv-ism, they all share one basic concept.
        “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”.
        Karl Marx.

        • facts for a lefty imbecile? Loss of time. He LOL-ed so many times by now, he may even skip his pills for today.
          BTW – MSM commies skip the drug using info in mass shootings;
          deeper checking shows possibly all killers were on drug(s)

    • the Progressive movement gained momentum and turned us in the direction of a One World Government and the Utopia they dream of. Progressives dream of neither.

  • Ray

    I read a book about 15 years ago which I got at a used book store. It was call “brainwashing in the high schools” By E. Merril Root, it was written in the late 50’s. Even back then socialism was being pushed, so much so, that men who were captured in the Korean war were easily manipulated into giving their captors much information.

    How much further down that road have we traveled?

    Go here to check it out.

  • Orangeone

    Fun article on CA gun show! Guess Feinstein and her wealthy husband were too busy to attention and take notice.

  • Wish we had a Congress with guts to eliminate the Dept Of Education ,Dept of Energy(Carter) and the Epa and send it back to the states.

    • WordsFailMe


  • white531

    While I did enjoy all your personal comments about your own life experiences, regarding the abysmal state of our educational system, I was somewhat disappointed in the conversation here this evening.

    When the topic first opened up, and the thread was just beginning, I thought we were going to have an in-depth discussion of what is wrong with our educational system.

    While it started off well, it soon deteriorated into personal experiences.

    I hope we can do this again sometime, and explore the real underlying problems with our schools, and look for solutions.

    This is a much deeper problem than you realize.

    • poljunkie

      Hi White,

      I get what you are saying. I think most of us concur that the state of the Nations school system and Dept of Education stinks. We are so flawed as a country when it comes to enlightening and preparing our leaders for tomorrow.

      Our inadequacy in misplaced spending and lack of proper motivation and attention is truly disheartening and should be demoralizing for today’s youth. I think I remember reading that about 3% of todays youth are being homeschooled. Thats a pretty big number. ABiC would have a better idea.

      Culture and customs should be a part of our principle foundation in conjunction with minimum core standards. To compete with the rest of the world the United States better start rethinking our game plan.

      However, on a very high level the two have been seized by the progressive members of the instruction hierarchy. Until this is addressed the deficiency of our educational leadership wont, in my opinion be properly addressed.

      Personal experiences are part of what makes TheRightScoop so unique, and although they may not address 911infidels’s topic with in depth research or profoundly… they are engaging and appealing- at least in my view. 🙂

      • Not that you necessarily want the info Polsis, but here are the latest stats I could find for anyone interested… seems like Florida is one state that is growing. Doesn’t surprise me with the amount of co ops and support groups, sports groups and other homeschool groups in our county alone.

      • white531

        Thanks, poljunkie.
        I know its impossible to control the direction of an open conversation. The comments made here by fellow Scoopers are both entertaining and engaging. I agree.

        But we have to be careful to not use this platform, or any other for that matter, solely for the purpose of entertainment and reinforcing each others’ opinions. It would be good to spend part of our time here, looking for solutions to the myriad of problems facing us.

        I say this because a lot of conservative sites are just places where people blow off steam, and accomplish very little in the way of real change. If you’ve been on those sites, I’m sure you know what I mean.

        Our educational system is probably the #1 issue we face, because of the way it is being used to indoctrinate our children. By the time they graduate from college, a large number have been seduced into the Progressive view of the world. If this continues much longer, it will be almost impossible to elect a conservative candidate for any office, let alone President.

        Even with all the catastrophic failures of Obama’s first term, including all the reckless spending and our massive deficit, he was re-elected for a second, due in no small part to the large numbers of college students and twenty-somethings who voted for him.

        Part of this problem is that these young people are far more receptive to the Progressive dogma than we are. They believe anything the Leftist media tells them, and seem mesmerized by Obama whenever he opens his mouth, which is often.

        I believe this phenomena, if I can call it that, exists because they have been conditioned to receive the information fed them by these sources and to reject conservative ideas such as Capitalism and the importance of adhering to constitutional principles. That conditioning occurred to a large extent in our school system. Add to that our society’s departure from the Judeo-Christian ethics that helped found this country, and the picture becomes more complete.

        Now, I know I’m going to get hammered by the question, “Well, what would you do, Mr. Smarty Pants?” Quite honestly, I don’t know. I think the idea of home schooling is an excellent place to start. The only problem there, is that working class families can’t take advantage of it. They have neither the money, nor the time.

        Attending school board meetings and paying attention to the internal politics of your local school system might provide fruit also. Like a garden grown full with weeds from lack of attention and neglect, our educational system got this way over time. Any fix is going to take time also.

        First, the weeds have to be pulled and the garden replanted, the weeds being a metaphor for the poor administrators and under-qualified teachers. Throwing the teachers’ unions in the nearest trash bin would also be a good place to start. Watching how your local district spends its money (our money), might be worth the time. School districts are notorious for wasting money on things not needed.

        These ideas represent nothing more than just basic, ordinary common sense, I know. But common sense usually doesn’t cost anything to implement, and sometimes produces truly surprising rewards.

        • poljunkie

          I agree with you.

          I think homeschooling is a terrific option. I also feel there are many private and charter schools which offer a great solution to parents and kids. There still are some public schools that manage to do a good job as well.

          But the real problem is what you identified and that is the Foundation of education being hijacked. You are right in that we need to take a stand to fix or at least put the brakes on what is occurring.

          There still are good and decent teachers out there. Working with the students, and fighting the district.

          A major step in the right direction would be making all the states “right to work.”

          Take care, friend.

  • It is way past time to win back the culture.

    LOL! Conservatives have been losing the “Culture War” since the 12th Century.

  • ApplePie101

    Teachers can’t teach what they don’t know. Many teachers are frightfully ignorant these days.

    • Teachers can’t teach what they don’t know. Many teachers are frightfully ignorant these days. Esp. science and math teachers… 🙁

  • Who is writing your children’s textbooks these days? Bill Ayers and the Annenberg Project maybe?


    • tinlizzieowner

      The same people that wrote the 2,000+ ‘Obamacare Bill’ that Congress nether authored nor read, that’s who.

  • One of the problems I see is allowing union politics being taught to our children. Look at the news reports (the ones that actually make the news anyway) One teacher tells a student you can go to jail for speaking out against the president, another wants to teach “muslim” sign language. Does anyone actually notice that the only time anyone reports on it is when a student fights back? Yes, Alinsky and his cohorts are the seed that started it, however, its the younger teachers that we see that have already been brainwashed. With tenure, they can’t be fired, just reassigned. They will be teaching young, pliable minds for the next 25-30 year (until they can get their nice pension).
    And when PARENTS won’t take at least an hour a day to TALK with their children, teaching them what it is to be a responsible human being, this is the end result. I see many parents just let the iphone, xbox, playstation, etc play the part of babysitter. Is that really the kinds of values that we need to teach our children?
    If a person has children, why would they rather let an inanimate object be the parent than taking a little time to be the teacher?
    I spend time with my children EVERY day. I teach them what America was founded on, and why it’s a good thing to be an American. Luckily, I live in a rural community, where we still have Christmas Pageants, say the Pledge of Allegiance, go on Easter Break. I don’t know how long it will last, but I’m sure even the rural schools will be invaded at some point.

  • Are they still showing Al Gore’s propaganda film “An Inconvenient Truth” without questioning the validity of Gore’s “facts”?

  • dontdrinkthecoolaid

    Parents need to take a break from keeping up the the Shapiros and pay more attention to their children and what they are being taught in school. It’s downright scary to see and hear what these kids are beginning to regurgitate. a-duh.

  • Thanks 911Infidel, this is a beautiful artical and stated very well.
    Thanks TRS for having 911Infidel’s letter posted. It is a great read for all Americans.

  • notebene

    Four years ago, my husband and I made the decision to pull all of our children out of public school and placed them in a Christian classical school. I cannot begin to count the ways our children have grown through this program! It is a rich and vibrant learning environment where the children are allowed to be children and taught how to love learning, rather than spit out pointless drivel. The public school system is nothing but a dull wasteland that provides babysitting by high-paid union drones. Education does not have anything to do with it. I am a teacher and I wouldn’t put my children back in that! The unions need to be tossed, the federal government needs to be shown the door, and serious clean up of our classrooms needs to occur. Billions of our taxpaying dollars are going towards yet another failed government system that has no intention of educating children. Like the lamestream media, it is nothing more than a dumping ground for socialist garbage in order to push a failed agenda. Excellent article 911Infidel!

  • physicsnut

    Phyllis Schlafly and Charles Sykes have been exposing the NEA creeps and commies for DECADES now. But frankly – the schools up here are a lot more conservative than 25 miles south of here. The problem is large numbers of azzholes. They think America is just a big video game that exists only for their amusement and entertainment.

    • Algor’s lies still being crammed into young skulls….

  • 1endtimes2020

    How did the USA descend to this low level of incompetence? Sin and the devil’s influence on us. We cannot continue to offend God in such grave ways, and expect His continued protection. If we don’t change our immoral ways, while knowing they offend God, God will turn us over to our sins. He gave us a choice, and He died for our sins. If we reject His gift, we suffer the consequences that naturally flow from our own actions. Surely, I don’t need to list those grave sins. We all have a conscience. The enemies of God, and Christians, are on the attack, and are bolder and bolder in their efforts. Indoctrinating our children at the earliest possible age is where the communists start. Leftwing? Socialists? No, more than that. Communists. Even Obama went to communist schooling. Beware of people who scoff at those who bring out the truth, regarding the basic causes of our growing problem.

    • US students – on the world top with highest self-confidence!
      And on the absolute bottom – in math….. 🙁
      And probably at the top in communist indoctrination 🙁

      • 1endtimes2020

        You know, John, there must be a lot of Democrats and Republicans who are like-minded about this problem. I often wonder why Democrats aren’t uniting with Republicans to influence all of Congress and the Senate to fix this lingering problem.
        We hear all the time how Republicans are not acting like true Republicans and facing problems head-on. Well, neither do Democrats.
        Concerned Americans need to petition their representatives and ask them where they stand on issues.

  • Myptofvu

    It has become far worse than just the spreading of their propaganda their campaign now strikes at our basic and innate rationalizing skill of which we need to survive. I am referring to common sense. No amount of propaganda can separate you from instincts you were born with so to get around this little problem they have devised a method of conditioning to punish you whenever you exhibit the use of this faculty.

    I have watched this transpire for years all the while chocking it up to just more absurdity before realizing that there was a method to the madness. Their purpose is to condition you so that you learn not to rely on your own cognitive reasoning but to instead rely on the set of rules and guidelines they have set out for you. It does not matter how slight your transgression may be, as a matter of fact the more trivial the better for them to punish your crime of exercising common sense.

    Once I became aware of this it was easy to spot all around. Here’s just one example:

    A High School student was suspended for holding the door open for a women whose arms were loaded down with books. His common sense told him this woman was not a threat and was in obvious need of assistance, but this violated school rules of allowing entry to anyone who is not personally known. Though the sentence was appealed the school stood firm in its decision for suspension.

    This is just one example but after seeing countless others it was clear that common sense itself was under attack.

    If this sounds like nothing more that paranoia consider this; There is now efforts to teach that “Math is man-made” and therefore fallible and for this reason it is better to trust the experts than to rely on the numbers.

  • Immigrant_from_Socialism7

    Socialists HATE America…and anyone who believes in GOD and LIBERTY
    Native born Americans must ACTIVELY teach their kids and grandkids about America and the Founding Fathers Constitution.
    The kids will be currently taught about Marx,atheism anti American rhetoric.
    You must act NOW
    Thank you

  • victoryman

    Isn’t it time for parents to take back the schools, or have they also been brainwashed by the government/union school curriculum? Our schools are filled with ignorant unionized drones that have the title “Teacher.” About the only thing they can do with consistency is march in a circle holding a picket sign. Of course, they have to be retrained after a lunch break. These folks are OVERPAID, not underpaid. Their annualized salaries plus benefits are off the charts. I’m tired of their whining. If you aren’t happy, get another job. Then again, what could they do? I watched an NEA convention a while back and listened while the president of the union read the “Platform.” Govcernment (Taxpayer) funded abortion was #1 on the list. Homosexual marriage, gun control, Out of Iraq/ Afghanistan, cut the military, higher pay, etc. I did not hear one word of improving education for the captive students caught in this web of unionized schooling. I love to hear the mantra of, “Pay teachers more and they’ll do a better job.” How many of you out there own or run businesses? Do you operate on the bellief that if you give underperforming employee more monet he’ll suddenly become employee of the month? I don’t think so. The unions fear merit pay, annual reviews, charter (Choice) schools. Of course, if union dues drop, so does the never ending wheel of union to democrats money. Shameful! Where i live, our school tax dollars go to pay for teacher’s cell phones. I verbally fought this at a school board meeting and was looked upon like I had three heads. A female sheeple type in the audience got up to refute me by stating that, “Teachers need to stay in touch.” I then stated that they buy their own cell phones to “Stay in touch.” The sheeple type did not respond.

    Pray for our nation……and read Ellis Washington every chance you get. He is brilliant…..and right on point!

    • white531

      Music to my ears, victoryman. Music to my ears. I am so glad you dropped in on us this evening.

      Most people don’t even know who Ellis Washington is. Black Conservatives are denigrated by the Liberals in our society.

      “Liberalism is a politics of poverty, envy and despair.” A direct quote from Ellis Washington.

      Your comments dovetail quite easily into the discussion taking place here.

      Here’s something maybe everyone should take a look at.

      Why blacks vote Democrat, By Ellis Washington:

      Good stuff.

      • victoryman

        My first contact reading Ellis Washington was when he wrote an impassioned defense of Michael Savage when Savage was, “Banned in Britain.” I’ve been reading him ever since. I’m sure Professor Washington has been denigrated by the left as, “Being off the plantation,” as has Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Justice Thomas, Col. West, Larry Elder, Bill Cosby, etc. In place of these great Americans the left (Especially the state run media) idolizes and worships at the feet of the likes of Jackson, Sharpton and other poverty pimps. A sad commentary on today’s society. As the saying goes, “There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.” I highly recommend Prof. Washington’s book, “The Nuremberg Trials.” Not an easy read, but well worth the time and effort to digest it.

        Have a Happy New Year, and keep up the good fight.

        • white531

          I enjoy your comments. I hope you contribute here often. You enrich the site.

  • white531

    This education thread was one of the best Scoop ever posted.

    It’s gone now. History. Forget all the energy you put into it. It is History.

    This is the major flaw in the basic foundation of The Right Scoop. We have no continuing thread to go to. We are grasshoppers. We jump from here, to there. We have no home.

    There is no way for us to stay in one place, and talk to each other about all these issues that have such an impact on how we will all live, in the future, as communism tightens its grasp on all of us.

    Because there is a train running down the track, and we have to keep jumping, to stay ahead of the train. There are conversations that happened three weeks ago on this site, that no one remembers. And that is the problem. All of the words and energy and fingers on the keyboard, that produced all of that, is history.

    That energy, and those words, and those fingers on the keyboards, belonged to us. To you and me. They are buried in the Archives right now. History. You will and I will never again see them on this site.

    There are a couple of things that I don’t like about most conservative sites. The person who runs it, is usually invisible in the landscape, and unreachable.

    That actual reality, makes me question why these people start a conservative site in the first place. If they actually want to make a difference, then why maintain yourself as some sort of mysterious person, behind the curtain? It’s like the Wizard of Oz. “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

    If I ran a site like this, I would tell you who I am and what I believed and how you can reach me.

    I apologize to all of you. I didn’t mean for this to turn into a rant. Sometimes, my conversations get away from me. Regardless, they still contain my basic thoughts.

    We do not have a continuing thread on the major issues facing us.

    We are an entertainment site, that jumps from one topic to the next. I guess that somehow produces ratings, which equates to money.

    Regardless, I still have no idea who Scoop is, and he is not about to tell me. At least, that I can tell.