By The Right Scoop


Here at TRS we’ve always been a supporter of Mosab Yousef who wrote the book Son of Hamas. We even supported him being granted asylum in the United States when the feds were considering denying it. This was in 2010.

In early 2011, Walid Shoebat began to expose Mosab Yousef as a possible fraud but at the time I thought there might be a little confusion as it didn’t seem convincing to me. But Shoebat pressed on and actually translated from Arabic a couple of Yousef’s interviews, exposing him completely in 2011.

Fast forward to tonight when I sat down and watched the interviews (I know, over a year and a half late) and read an article Shoebat wrote about Yousef from May 2011. There is no more confusion, at least in my mind.

In short, Yousef is against Hamas and against terrorism, especially when it takes the lives of innocent people. This worked well for him working with the Shinbet as he wanted to save lives, including the life of his father, the founder of Hamas. He’s told the stories of his collaboration with Israel’s Shinbet in his book as well as in interviews in America. He’s made clear Israel was working for his agenda to save lives of Palestinians. As a Christian, he really seemed to have a heart for his people, for them to hear the truth of the Gospel. In everything he sounded as pro-Israeli as you get and his story was compelling and seemed to have all the right pieces to substantiate his claims.

But the audio I’ve listened to tonight with Walid Shoebat translating Yousef from the Arabic was quite troubling. In these interviews he would speak passionately about growing up under the Israeli occupation and how they committed criminal acts against his people:

With a balanced approach I discuss the life of the Palestinian child under the Israeli occupation, of course my life suffered under all the problems of murder and the criminal operations that were carried out by the Israeli occupation against my people, my family, myself, and against humanity.

See, Yousef isn’t pro-Israel after all. He’s certainly against the terrorist agenda of Hamas, however he still identifies with the Palestinian people and their Palestinian cause ‘against the occupation’ and believes they can have their victory over Israel:

We need to understand the difference between “revenge” and “resistance” and once the Palestinians do, we will have our victory against Israel.

Israel is the problem and as an occupation it needs to end. … There are many ways to do this besides the coward explosive operations.

With regret, our great leaders and mighty heroes and glorious defenders [of Hamas] over there did not realize that instead of spending their wealth and monies on silly issues, they needed to enlist in their ranks writers and educated individuals in order to reverse the image of the Palestinian struggle.

He even wore the kaffiyeh in one interview which according to Shoebat, symbolizes solidarity with the Palestinian people and their cause:

While Yousef is what Walid Shoebat calls an ‘Arab Christian’ and he is against the violent agenda of Hamas, he is still against the ‘Israeli occupation’ and identifies with the Palestinian cause. Shoebat says that Yousef has revealed himself to be “more double agent than turncoat”.

I highly recommend reading Walid Shoebat’s full article on Mosab Hassan Yousef and watching the interviews he’s translated on his website.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002694470470 WL Whitelight

    What makes people like Walid, Whittle and even Regan so great is that they started in the enemies camp so they know how they think but have had their eyes opened and crossed over into the light. They are so often able to articulate what we think and show us what we are leaving out.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y2OFNJFKFRM65TGRGKVJXZJHAA Rene

      If Christ reigned in the hearts of Hebrews and muslims, there would be Peace. If he is now in Christ, glory be to God. That is much more important than whether he always support the nonblieving Jewish political structure no matter what the cost, right?

      Is it your view that Christians cannot support fellow believers suffering and have to unilaterally support nonbelieving Israel at every turn, no matter what? I think internationally we obviously have good reasons to support fighting islam and must support Christians above all else.

      If he is supporting muslim rule like in Egypt, then that would be a major problem but from what you said , he is not. He just identifies with family members suffering from war attacks by both muslims & nonbelieving Jews , right?

      What are your thoughts on these Scriptures & reformation quotes regarding The Body of Christ being Israel? http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html

      Have you seen a national repentance of Israelites to follow Christ as Messiah to fulfill the call to be part of the Israel of God, The Body of Christ?

      Not talking about the international political wisdom supporting anti-islamic barriers in the Middle East with the nation of Israel or not; but more about the following Scriptures & reformation leaders highlighted thought provoking:

      THE PEOPLE OF GOD
      A) The Israelites Are The People Of God:
      – Ex. 6:7, Deut. 27:9, 2 Sam. 7:23, Jer. 11:4
      B) Disobedient Israelites Are Not The People Of God:
      – Hos. 1:9, Jer. 5:10
      C) The Christians Are The People Of God:
      – Rom. 9:25, 2 Cor. 6:16, Eph. 4:12, Eph. 5:3, 2 Th. 1:10, Tit. 2:14

      THE CHOSEN PEOPLE
      A) The Israelites Are The Chosen People:
      – Deut. 7:7, Deut. 10:15, Deut. 14:2, Isa. 43:20,21
      B) Disobedient Israelites Are Not The Chosen People:
      – Deut. 31:17, 2 Ki. 17:20, 2 Chr. 25:7, Psa. 78:59, Jer. 6:30, Jer. 7:29, Jer. 14:10
      C) The Christians Are The Chosen People:
      – Col. 3:12, 1 Pet. 2:9

      ISRAEL
      A) Israel is Israel
      B) Disobedient Israelites Are Not Israelites:
      – Num. 15:30,31, Deut. 18:19, Acts 3:23, Rom. 9:6
      C) The Christians Are Israel:
      – John 11:50,51,52, 1 Cor. 10:1, Gal. 6:15,16, Eph. 2:12,19

      • http://profiles.google.com/silverstein.larry03 larry silverstein

        EZRA
        &
        THE BLOODLINE

        Racism was invented
        By the Jewish Priest Ezra!

        Ezra & Hitler are in total agreement

        “it was against the will of the Eternal Creator. . .Nations that make mongrels of their people or allow their people to be turned into mongrels sin against the Will of Eternal Providence.”
        Mein Kampf, p. 186 . . . p.162

        The Book of Ezra is the Mein Kampf of the Bible

        In 587 B.C. Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians. The town and the Temple were razed to the ground and the Jewish people were exiled to the land of their captors. But fifty years later Cyrus, King of Persia, conquered the conquerors and established his own rule in Babylon. He was well-disposed toward the Jewish people living there and issued an edict allowing them to return to their own country. But not everyone wanted to go.

        Although the siege of Jerusalem had been brutal, once the people were settled in their land of exile, living conditions kept improving. Ultimately, they were given the opportunity to become contributing members of the Empire and encouraged to retain their own Jewish culture. By the time Cyrus came to power, the majority of Jewish people did not want to exchange a prosperous lifestyle for the uncertainty of returning to a country that had been lying in ruins for half a century. But they were quite generous in their financial and moral support of those who were willing to go back and resettle their homeland.

        When the first group of exiles arrived back in Jerusalem, circa 537 B.C., they found things were even worse than expected. The countryside was desolate and rebuilding loomed as a monumental task. And other problems faced the returnees. They had come back ready to reclaim Jerusalem and institute their own agenda. But when they arrived they found that the ruins of the city were inhabited by the descendants of poor peasants who had hidden out in the hills during the Babylonian siege. They had escaped capture while the wealthy merchants, landowners and priests who had substantial lands and other holdings, had been rounded up and deported by their conquerors.

        During the years of Exile, the peasants left behind had made a life for themselves that centered around Jerusalem. They built homes for their families and for many years had eked out a living in the barren countryside. And during those years, the peasant survivors of the southern kingdom of Judah had made common cause with those left alive after the takeover of the northern kingdom of Israel. [1] The bitter rivalry that had once divided the Jewish tribes had been healed by the misfortunes they suffered and by the need for mutual aid if any of them were going to survive.

        But those who first returned from Babylonian Exile, under the leadership of the High Priest Jeshua, had nothing but contempt for those who had been left behind. They were considered ignorant; the dregs of society, because without the leadership of the exiled priests and scribes, they would not have properly fulfilled the religious rules and regulations that were supposed to govern daily life. Therefore, they were ritually unclean and were to be shunned. Of course, ritual impurity can be remedied over a period of time by observing every jot and title of the Law but this remedy was not applied to those who had been left behind. Their impurity stemmed from intermarriage with mixed-race Jews. They had mixed the pure blood line of Abraham through intermarriage with those of impure lineage and their offspring had been contaminated.

        So, although the resident survivors around Jerusalem thanked God for the return of the Exiles and wanted to help them rebuild the Temple site, they were not allowed to do so. They presented themselves to Jeshua and other leaders saying

        “We would like to build with you, for we seek your God as you do and we have sacrificed to him since the time of Esarhaddon” [2]

        Their offer was refused, they were unworthy; unclean. They reacted to this bigotry by harassing the returnees as they undertook the reconstruction of the Temple.

        But despite various problems, the altar was reestablished and dedicated to God by a massive slaughter of animals that provided a great feast for the people. In a total rejection of the oracles of the Latter Prophets, who condemned killing animals in the name of God, one hundred bulls, 200 sheep, 400 lambs and 12 goats were sacrificed and slaughtered on the altar site. [3]

        In the generations that followed, the descendants of those who returned from exile married, raised families and centered their religious life around the altar at Jerusalem. And for those who married other pure-blooded Jews there were no problems. However, some of them were marrying those whose bloodlines had been tainted by intermarriage. The religious leaders were very disturbed by this trend, but were unable to do anything about it until a priest named Ezra arrived in Jerusalem.

        Ezra was a scribe as well as a hereditary priest. As a scribe he was trained in the minutiae of religious law and was qualified to translate and interpret those laws. In Babylon he had been the equivalent of a minister for Jewish affairs at the Persian Court and he used that position to secure letters of authority from the king. He had himself sent to Jerusalem as a political and religious leader, empowered to collect money, appoint judges and punish with death, banishment, confiscation or imprisonment any Jew who did not obey the laws he expounded.

        [1] Survivors of the Northern kingdom of Israel came to be called Samaritans. Their kingdom fell to the Assyrians in 722 B.C.

        [2] Ezra: 4:2 JB

        [3] Ezra 6:16, 17 JB

  • kong1967

    I don’t know that much about him. Was he saying he was against the Palestinians? Or was he just working with the Shin bet to try to save lives? I saw an interview with him once while he was surfing on a beach I believe in California. I can’t remember what he said, though. I don’t recall if he claimed he was pro-Israel and against the cause of Hamas (or if he’s just against their tactics). If he never made the claim to be pro-Israel then he isn’t a fraud. I’m not taking that positon. I have no idea.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Kong, go to the links Scoop included here, especially Shoebat’s articles. They shed a lot of light on Mosab’s story. :-)

      • kong1967

        Lol, you pointed out the obvious. I was hoping to bypass a lot of reading. Ok, I’ll stop being lazy and check them out.

        • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

          lol silly! They are good reads when you have time. :-)

          • kong1967

            Ok. :)

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              lol. Night Kong :-D

              • kong1967

                Good night.

      • http://profiles.google.com/silverstein.larry03 larry silverstein

        Talmudic Judaism, Romanism & Islam are 3 ANTICHRIST BABYLONIAN CULTS and have their roots in Zoroasterism.

        Ezra was commissioned by Cyrus to rebuild the Temple & establish a Jewish form of Zoroasterism. He REWROTE most of the Jewish manuscripts, corrupted parts of the Books of the Prophets (See Jeremiah ch 7; ch 8:8), added books of myth, like the Book of Esther etc and got the Pharisees to collate & canonize them & add the Oral Tradition of the Elders, thereby creating Talmudic Judaism, which Jesus CONDEMNED (See Matthew ch 15; ch 19; ch 23; John ch 4; John 8:43-47).

        In 300 AD Constantine commissioned APOSTATE Christians to create ROMANISM.

        600 AD Muhammad created ISLAM!

        These are 3 JIHAD CULTS & have murdered & maimed millions in the name of God.

        BASTARDS!

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    While it feels like a betrayal, Christians are used to that. But his story reminds me of simlar ones of palestinian Christians who live in Bethlehem. They too see Israel as the oppressors. I guess we need to realize that these men were once children, growing up listening and being indoctrinated all their waking hours of hate for Israel. So even if they “convert” to Christianity, they will still have distrust at least if not still the same hate. The fact that he came to infiltrate the church doesn’t surprise me. The liberal so called social justice “christians” are pretty much anti Israel already, so Mosab would fit in famously. It’s too bad really. But he will have to answer to Jesus some day about it. I hope some how his heart can be softened towards Israel and Jews. Thank you Scoop for this. It’s a shocker for sure.

    • Darkbella007

      they will never look at us different. They only see what is in their way. They will never seek peace. We all know this.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Most will not I agree, but God can change the hardest hearts, and that’s what I pray for. I have to pray for that.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000829771072 John Q. Jones

          You saw what He did to Saul, right? :)

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            Precisely John. Saul/Paul is an example I use often. We never know who God is going to change!! :-)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        The Bible tells us this also but we never give up trying.

    • Watchman74

      It reminds me of the story of Lot living in Sodom and Gomorrah. You cannot live in that sort of environment and not be affected by it. I wonder those Gaza Christians believe in Replacement Theology.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Replacement theology is EXACTLY what I think. Well said Watchman. Very true.

        • NJK

          Replacement theology? I never heard that term. I’ll have to look it up.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            It’s a belief that the church has replaced Israel as the chosen ones of God. While many Jews have not come to know Jesus as Messiah, God still has His people and He is moving towards redeeming them.

    • Patriot077

      They have had more than 40 years of indoctrination about being these poor little Palestinian victims being mistreated by that aggressive abuser Israel. But to tell you the truth I am just plain sick and tired of them finding some excuse to present themselves as victims.

      When Israel became a state they did not force these people to leave. They left because they were told that after Israel got her butt kicked they could come back and have it all. The trouble is, Israel defended herself successfully and no other ME country would have them. Oooops.

      For what it’s worth, I almost bought this guy’s book but I saw an interview of him and he just didn’t seem sincere to me. I don’t recall what it was that put me off, but I’m not surprised by Walid’s investigation. I’m glad he outted him.

      • keyesforpres

        You can see it in his eyes….that he didn’t have a change of heart.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      You said what I was thinking and said it much better.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Thanks Laurel. :-)

    • NJK

      There is another leftist hiding behind the title of Cardinal in the church a couple of days ago, who called Israel baby killers. I was born, raised, and remain a Catholic, and I never used to be able to understand this. I’ve come to realize though, that they infiltrate various places, for example, the President of Notre Dame University, to promote communism, socialism, statism, or whatever you want to call it.

      I’ll have to watch the interviews.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        It’s sad NJK. It’s not only in the Catholic church, but many evangelical and protestant churches as well.

  • Darkbella007
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  • Darkbella007

    Well my links are not welcome here.

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      This isn’t an open thread.

      • Darkbella007

        Gotcha.

  • sjmom

    This is really no different than minorities in America who, even though not oppressed, think they are. The Bible says in Proverbs 23:7 “For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he” and how true it is for many who have been told ugly things about others. In Palestine as in much of the Muslim world children are taught to hate and hate imprisons the soul in bondage. This is not unique to any culture but to mankind. As I wrote earlier fear is the basis for hatred and the only remedy is knowing God’s love in your own life.

    Just because Yousef calls himself a Christian does not mean he knows the love of God in his own life. There’s only one way to know this; get to know the Lord and His Word on a deep personal level because it is not something taught but something that is revealed to us by God WHO IS LOVE. Amen.

    • kong1967

      A lot of people view Israel’s blockade of goods into Gaza as oppression. However, the only reason the blockades ever get set up is because Hamas smuggles in lots of weapons and terrorists to attack Israel with.

      Liberals are very short sighted and don’t see that ambulances going in may be full of terrorists and not there for hospitable reasons.

      That’s my take on it, anyway.

      • Darkbella007

        Do you know what they are blocking? The Isrealis feed those people ever day. The Arabs do what they do best.

        • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

          And the Israelis send in medical supplies, and allow Gazans into Israel for treatments at Hospitals.

          • kong1967

            None of that is ever reported on the MSM. They report the ambulance being stopped from going in to Gaza to help the sick and the injured. What they don’t tell us is that the ambulance was full of guns and terrorists.

        • kong1967

          I don’t know if there are currently any blockades, but when there are there are really good reasons for them. They aren’t there to starve the Palestinians.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            There are. And I hope like heck Israel keeps their eyes on the “fishermen” since there are Iranian ships out there with weapons to hand over.

            • kong1967

              Ships that the libs will claim had nothing but food and clothing on them. Those evil Israeli’s!!! The libs push the most propagandic bullcrap I’ve ever seen.

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                I know it. Sickening isn’t it. It amazes me too some of those who go along on the little flotilla parades… Bill Ayres and his shill Bernadette Dohrn, Cindy Sheehan.. ug. I gotta stop, I’m giving myself fits before bed time!

                • kong1967

                  ROFLMAO!

        • Cindy09

          While there are factions amongst the Palestinians that incite violence against Israel, maybe the reason why these people were never absorbed by the Arab countries is an open secret. Some of them have an ancestral lineage that is actually Jewish. The Arabs play them like fiddle and do not want to take them in for political reasons. Who knows probably because they know of their Jewish heritage?

          Here is a video that relates to that fact:

      • sjmom

        What you’re saying is true but in so many ways the Palestinians have caused their own problems. Yousef is a result of his culture as are so many others. What I am referring to is a condition of one’s soul and that’s not caused by blockades because even if Israel were to give in to the demands it would not be enough. For those who hate nothing ever is.

        • Darkbella007

          WTH. If they want to protest, then protest Egypt and Jordan. They took it over.

        • kong1967

          I completely agree. I was just stating how liberals view the blockades. The blockades are there for good reasons, and none of them are to starve the people. It’s to starve the terrorist effort like smuggled guns, bombs, and even terrorists themselves.

          • Darkbella007

            They are not starving. They are the mo st obese people on earth atm. Don’t take my word. Look it up.

            • kong1967

              Lol, I don’t have to. I said the blockades were not there to starve the Palestinians, but that’s what liberals believe or want everyone to believe. It’s not true. I agree with you.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada
            • kong1967

              I’ll watch your vids now, but I thought you were going to bed.

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                I was lol, but something always distracts me ;-)

            • kong1967

              How do they live in those tin cans and cardboard boxes? Lol, this is ridiculous. Nothing like the Ethiopian poverty the media wants us to believe is there.

              • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                I know!

        • kong1967

          Oh, and I agree that giving in to the demands of the Palestinians won’t ever solve anything. Hamas and the Palestinians are just playing the fiddle for the world to be naive to. The end goal is for there to be no more Israel. I see liberals claiming that the Palestinians want peace and that the Israeli’s and muslims can live side by side peacefully. They’re so full of donkey dung that it’s squashing their brains.

          • sjmom

            The devil always is.

      • Conniption Fitz

        Israel has never stopped humanitarian aid or food going into Gaza or West Bank.

        However, this time around, praise God, they destroyed lots of tunnels for smuggling arms and missiles.

        • kong1967

          Exactly, but that’s not the story the liberals and MSM tell. Israel is blocking food and humanitarian aid, which is a lie.

      • keyesforpres

        They check for weapons and then let all the food through.

        • kong1967

          Exactly. That’s not what liberals tell everyone, though. Libs say Israel is blocking food and aid, which is a complete lie.

    • Cindy09

      I have read his book and he never discloses any day or time where he accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. His role is more or less painted in the gray area – befitting both sides Palestinians and Christians but does not include a definite conviction about what he really believes in. After reading his book, I took a guess that he became a christian but again it never made it plain if he really did accept the Lord in his heart. In some ways, his form of Christianity is very deceptive and retributive. He does not get it that the land of Israel was given to Jacob and his descendants and because of that, one cannot deduce that he has the mind of Christ.

      • ryanomaniac

        You haven’t watched his interviews where he explicitly told of his conversion in detail.

        • las1

          Come to think of it, I have seen dozens of interviews with the guy, have his book which I have delayed reading because of Shoebat’s revelations about the guy. I’ve never seen him talk about his conversion.

          One thing that is widely known, is that too many Arab Christians for the most part are on the wrong side of this issue… an Egyptian Christian (I include him with the Arabs, even though his is not Arab) in our church gets all lathered about how terrible the Israelis are and what they are doing is so terrible… etc. etc. They have a difficulty seeing Jews as God’s people, other than some quaint historic anomaly from the Old Testament. It truly saddens me, especially when they are in the churches. Dhimmitude is part of the Arab Christian’s DNA unfortunately.

          But about Hasan’s conversion… if you have links, please post.

          • ryanomaniac

            There are interviews readily available on youtube where he talks about his conversion. Its a great testimony.

            • Cindy09

              I have to agree with you on his interviews. What was missing in his book, he gave plenty in interviews where right off the bat, the journalist presented him as a christian. He would back up his interviews with Bible verses. He seems genuine. Yet again, there is a lot that he said between English and Arabic. Walid Shoebat wanted to meet with him at one time, but Mossab did everything to steer away from him.

              Rule #1 for Walid Shoebat: if you say you are a former Arab converted to Christianity, then your languages, English and Arabic, should convey the same message. I thank God everyday for Walid, he discerns a fake from a distance, before they start hurting the Body of Christ.

            • Cindy09

              Ryan, there is also the possibility that he was genuine when he converted to christianity. But he was too young in the faith! He was bare in diapers so to speak when he went under the spotlight, and when he face pressure he fell back – because he did not have a strong root.

              This is the worst scenario that can happen to popular people. They need (badly) to be rooted in the Word first before going out to give their testimony. I bet that this is what happened with this guy. He is still at crossroads on certain issues. Unless someone else intervenes in their life and school them, most of the time they fall back into their previous beliefs. One example, here is America, is Bob Dylan.

              • las1

                Good points.

                Another example is Bruce Cockburn. Remember his “I Wonder Where the Lions Are”. Well… I wonder where Cockburn’s Christianity is. Celebrity and Christianity do not mix unless one is very strong. And strong authentic Christians almost all come out of this most dysfunctional subculture in the world… namely Hollywood. A good example would be Kurt Cameron.

                Regarding Hassan… he probably felt pressure to still be accepted by his “people”… if, and this is a BIG IF, if he was the real deal. I’m having doubts because Shoebat mentioned an interview with Hassan where Hassan confessed his intention to infiltrate the Church and spread the Palestinian narrative. I also saw an interview with Hassan where he was interviewed by American Jews, I think in LA, and many were very disbelieving and accused him of fraud.

            • las1

              Yeah… I getcha… we see so many things, and you can’t be bothered to go back and dig the source out. You’re allowed this one bout of laziness there Ryan.. it’s Thanksgiving after all. Go back and eat leftovers there my friend.

              • ryanomaniac

                Come on las1, I already have a job and a newborn to boot. If I was referencing a column or editorial or speech by G.K. Chesterton in 1930 at NYU or something then I would’ve supplied the link but all you have to do is put Mosab Yousef interviews in the search box on YouTube and baaaammmmm!!!! Giving you a hard time man….some of these videos are an hour long so I can’t watch them to see which ones he talks about his conversion. Its been over a year since I watched them. If you seek ye shall find my friend.

                • las1

                  Isn’t it funny. We have all this astounding technology at our fingertips… stuff we would have given our eye teeth for forty years ago, even twenty, now we suffer from information over… and I DO MEAN OVERLOAD or just slip into griping when our computer boots up three seconds too long.
                  When I saw this clip from Louis CK.. it just says it all… and I am not a fan of his by any stretch, but when he has to put away the potty mouth on national TV and has to behave like a real human person… he can be quite good.
                  From his Everything is amazing and nobody is happy routine.
                  http://vimeo.com/14975413

    • NJK

      Obama calls himself a Christian too, but he consistently leaves God, out of everything. For example the Declaration of Independence, and the Thanksgiving Day address of his. George Washington, spoke of the Almighty God, a few times in his Thanksgiving Proclomation.

      [New York, 3 October 1789]

      Page Image.
      By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

      Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor– and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

      Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be– That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks–for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation–for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war–for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed–for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted–for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

      and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions– to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually–to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed–to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord–To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us–and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

      Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

      Here is the original document.
      http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gw4.jpg

      Obama’s not a Christian. He says that for campaign purposes only. A Christian wouldn’t say what he did at the UN the day he lied about the Libyan terror attack.

      “The Future Must Not Belong to Those Who Slander the Prophet of Islam”~Barack Hussein Obama

      • sjmom

        There is an article on Daily Caller that Obama never mentioned God in this year’s Thanksgiving address. You’re right he is not a Christian.

        As John Paul Jones said: “I have not yet begun to fight.” This is the attitude we must now have and if we are willing to stand together we will win. We are on God’s side.

        “It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.” (Psalm 118: 8 NKJV)

        Pray because prayer changes things. :)

      • keyesforpres

        Obama pulled the ultimate TAQIYYA on the American people.

  • Dr. Frank Lippenheimer

    All I know is that Israeli “fighters” have never bombed a “Palestinian” bus, or a “Palestinian” ice-cream shop packed with women and children. But “Palestinian fighters” have done so many, many times. So, I’m sorry, Mosab, but I have no respect for you or your miserable, hateful people. You need to turn your thirst for revenge towards the people who (other than yourselves) are truly to blame for the “Palestinian Plight”: your fellow Muslims (be they Arabs, Persians, or Turks) who have USED you as expendable propaganda meat for decades. It is not the Israeli Jews who have left multi-generational “refugees” rotting in cardboard camps for well-over a half-century now. It is the Muslim world that has chosen that. “Palestinians” are not a people. They are a tool chest. And they have been used, and brainwashed, and animalized by the Terror Dons who OWN THEM for so long now, that somebody, somewhere, in authority needs to tell them that any capacity they may have ever had to become a sovereign nation unto themselves has long since passed. It will never happen. There is no civil society to be found among them. To the surrounding Arab-Muslim world (to say nothing of the local terrorists who bleed them white), the “Palestinians” are much too useful as poster children to ever be allowed to broker a separate peace with their Israeli neighbors.

    • Darkbella007

      There is no such thing as a Palestine person. They came from the surrounding Arab countries and it is sad that so many fall into the trap of this. They never were.

      • Conniption Fitz

        Newt Gingrich told the truth about this during the primary debates.

        • Constance

          I remember that, and I was cheering. And, he resonated with a lot of people when he did that. The country is thirsty for the truth. It just needs to be said on the national stage, voices of opposition be damned.

          • StrangernFiction

            The good half of the country certainly is.

    • StrangernFiction

      Palestinians = “disenfranchised” inner city blacks

  • Immigrant_from_Socialism7

    A peculiarity about the commonality of both Christianity and Islam, is that the Blessed Virgin is mentioned more times in the Koran,than in the Bible.
    Our Lady appeared in Fatima,Portugal.Fatima was the prophet Mohammed’s favourite daughter.

    In the movie South Pacific there is a song..”You’ve got to be taught to hate and fear..”

    Ironically it is only recently that highlighting differences between various groups is being fomented in America …..not surprisingly to gain politically.
    I wish I could run for office…could plainspoken,straightforward actually succeed…in America?

    • Conniption Fitz

      Fatima and South Pacific are not Scripture, not the Word of God, and therefore reliable spiritual truth.

      Fatima and the near goddess exaltation of the BVM are not true to the Word of God, but an accomodation to superstitions and visions of individuals.

      The Roman Catholics have erred in the Catechism (CCC#841), giving Islam validation as a way of salvation. It is most certainly not.

      The fruit of Islam is the polar opposite of the Fruit of the Holy Spirit. Islam is a perversion of Judaism and Christianity. Moreover, Mormonism is a human invented confabulation of Native American, Islam, Christianity and Roman Catholic ritualism. Both Islam and Mormonism are the products of fallible human reasoning and angry rejected men.

      • StrangernFiction

        The fruit of Islam is the polar opposite of the Fruit of the Holy Spirit.

        Very well stated.

    • StrangernFiction

      Any commonality between Christianity and Islam results from Islam borrowing from Christianity in the interest of deception. Mohammed was a FRAUD.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

    Mosab said what?…

    Nov. 23, 2012 – Times of Israel –

    ‘We need to educate the Palestinian public that Israel is not the enemy,’

    Mosab Hassan Yousef tells Israel’s Channel 2.

    ‘Hamas was born to destroy; it does not know how to build’

    >> http://www.timesofisrael.com/son-of-hamas-mosab-hassan-yousef-calls-out-gaza-barbarians/

    – – – – – – – – – –

    1st paragraph –

    “Sounding more like the frustrated resident of a southern Israeli city
    after suffering days of sirens and rocket strikes
    than the son of one of Hamas’s founders,
    Mosab Hassan Yousef told Israel’s Channel 2 News on Friday
    that taking down his father’s terror organization
    “is a necessity, not just for Israel, but for humanity.”

    ”We need to expose the lies and educate the Palestinian public
    that Israel is not the enemy.

    Israel actualy helps the people of Gaza more than anybody else,” he said.
    “We need the average Palestinian to see this clearly.”

    In a particularly poignant part of the interview,
    Yousef chose to use the camera to speak directly to his father,
    the man who publicly disowned him two years ago.

    “I am sure that Hamas people,
    people like my father
    are listening to this interview.

    It is not courageous of them to hide behind children and launch missiles.

    Israel was out [of Gaza,
    having removed all its civilians and its military in the disengagement of 2005].
    The battlefield was out of the populated areas.

    If they [Hamas members] had courage
    they could have come out of the Gaza Strip instead of hiding like rats,” he charged.

    Yousef concluded the English-language interview with a smile and by wishing viewers Shabbat Shalom, a good Sabbath, in Hebrew.

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Apparently Mosab is deeper, intellectually and spiritually, than some people think.

    Walid Shoebat is definitely a very good man, as is Mosab Yousef, and it seems that there is a communication glitch, somewhere, starting with Mosab, and including Walid.

    Art

    • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

      Did you listen to the interviews that Walid translated?

      • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

        Yes…

        I heard the interviews a long time ago, when Walid first posted them on his site and when Mosab posted them on his Son of Hamas blog.

        The communication ‘glitch’ is a reference to Mosab’s lack of clarity and Walid’s quick to pounce response on Mosab’s lack of clarity.

        Mosab’s March 24, 2011 post which follows, about “Islam will cease to exist…” and the major media silence about Mosab’s project with TheQuran[.]com, is very clear about his intent, which is confirmed by his friends who know him well.

        Consider this quote, the last sentence in the post that follows, –

        “Policy-shaping men and women
        who know the truth about Islam
        are afraid to show the Islamic world
        where it can go to learn that same truth.”

        That is an example of Mosab’s lack of clarity while speaking.

        The words “that same truth” is obviously the “truth about Islam” and NOT that Islam is THE truth.

        Islam is NOT the truth when the Quran says that the “people of the book”, Jews and Christians, are enemies of Islam, especially the Jews, the most hateful, according to the Quran.

        Both Walid and Mosab are on the ideological front lines in the war instigated by Islam as directed by the actual words of the Quran.

        Walid is not the only person who has a problem with Mosab’s lack of clarity while speaking.

        Pamela Geller at AtlasShrugs and Robert Spencer at JihadWatch have also expressed their doubts about Mosab’s intentions.

        Taqqiya is a tactic endorsed by the Quran and Islamic history, but I don’t sense that Mosab is practicing taqqiya.

        Who knows… but some day we will find out… if not this side of the resurrection, definitely after the resurrection of the just and the unjust.

        Art

        • http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

          I think you are missing something. I never suggested nor do I suggest that he is a Muslim. I believe he is a Christian…of sorts. I do believe he hates Islam. I do believe he wants a better way than that of Hamas. I think all of those things are fairly clear.

          But to still see Israel as the enemy, as the ‘occupier’ is a huge problem for me. He said it. Either he was telling the truth in these interviews or he was pandering to the Palestinians.

          Either way, he’s saying 2 different things and I’m going to have to trust Walid on this one.

          • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

            “Missing something”…

            No, I’m not missing anything, Scoop.

            I saw and heard the same thing you did when I first heard Mosab’s comments while wearing the kaffiyeh.

            Who knows why Mosab thought it was a good idea to try to get on the good side of the interviewer with the ‘occupier’ term and the kaffiyeh around his neck.

            Maybe THAT is Mosab’s lack of clarity that I mentioned in the previous post, and Walid’s response is justified regarding the comments and the kaffiyeh.

            As you do, I also trust that Mosab is a convert from the buried Muhammad and a true convert to THE Risen One who looks, uh, “forward” to the resurrection.

            He just needs to learn to clarify his thoughts with context and complete sentences.

            Art

  • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

    TheQuran.com…

    Son Of Hamas –
    >> http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/what%E2%80%99s-the-media-afraid-of/

    “People who heard me say that Islam will cease to exist before 2019 always ask me, what can we do to help make that happen?

    “As I’ve said again and again, truth is Islam’s worst enemy. My people have been in the Dark Ages for fourteen centuries. They desperately need an Islamic Reformation like the Protestant Reformation led by Martin Luther, William Tyndale, and other church fathers.

    “The key now, as then, is truth.

    “What the printing press was to the ignorance of the 15th century, the Internet, smart phones, and the social network are to ignorance in the new millennium.

    “But by far, the most revolutionary development to take place since Muhammad is thequran.com. Yet, virtually no one has heard of it.

    “The media appears to be terrified and won’t let me or anybody else connected with the project on the air to talk about it.

    “Why?

    “Even FOX News, that followed my story—including Homeland Security’s attempt to deport me—when it was politically incorrect to do so, won’t put me on to talk about thequran.com.

    “Policy-shaping men and women who know the truth about Islam are afraid to show the Islamic world where it can go to learn that same truth.

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Art

  • http://twitter.com/WinstonCN Winston Smith

    I knew it…

  • 911Infidel

    I pointed this out what several months ago and some individual tried disputing it despite evidence…which is the same link here….to the contrary.

    Oh and anyone who claims to be a Christian who calls the existence of Israel “occupation” and the murders of Jews “resistence” is no friend of anyone except the enemies of God.

    Wake up Westerners. Stop thinking in Western terms when discussing the ME. Learn a little Arabic. Study Islam. Pay attention to our trusted friends: Nonie Darwish, Walid Shoebat, Raymond Ibrahim, Reza Khalili., Ali Sina, M.a. Khan, Ibn Warriq, Kaleem Saleem, Amani Mustafa…et. al. Until they prove otherwise, by hiding their true feelings behind their native languages, trust them.

    Fortunately, we have excellent translators like Khalili, MEMRI and Shoebat who expose the miscreants and the wolves in our midst on a daily basis.

    We should be thanking the real Itah for them.

    • Constance

      I have tried to study Islam and understand what the heck is going on, but it’s not easy. I am not as trusting as maybe I should be. I look with a suspicious eye on anyone who translates and explains for us what is going on in the Muslim world. I wonder if we are hearing the truth. I wonder if all these people claiming to be helping us are instead setting us up. Not necessarily the people who you have mentioned in your post, but just in general. For the first time in my life, since 9/11/01, I could be called a religious bigot against Muslims. I see nothing positive in the societies who are predominantly Muslim. I see hatred, destruction, misery, and a dedication to destroying anyone who doesn’t share in that blind and horrible way of life. To learn to trust anyone claiming to be our trusted friend, I first have to learn to trust that not all Muslims have a tendency to turn on us in an instant. And, I’m just not there yet. Sounds bad, I know, but it’s the truth. I’m sure I’m not alone in this.

      • StrangernFiction

        I could be called a religious bigot against Muslims.

        Islam is not a religion it’s a cult of hate and deception. Anything good in Islam was borrowed to mask its evil essence. Mohammed = Obama.

        • Patriot077

          Yes, it is the only major “religion” that does not preach love or ongoing moral improvement. There is no “Golden Rule” to encourage honorable behavior with others … I think it was imagined for the sole purpose of giving his followers a celestial being to force impassioned warriors to do whatever it took to overpower his enemies in the name of that being.

      • 911Infidel

        All you gotta do is learn how to cross-reference. For example what does Spencer say about the Koran in his commentaries. When he uses an Arabic word. Is it the same word or phrase used by MEMRI or Shoebat or Darwish. What does the brilliant ex-Muslims at IslamWatch have to say about it?

        And finally what do Muslims themselves say on the few occasions when they are actually honest when speaking in English.

        That’s how you can know who to trust or not trust. A really good point of reference for Koranic studies in both Arabic and English is abnsat. (http://www.abnsat.com/)
        The Jesus or Muhammed debates are very instructive. You can also find them on Youtube.

        Watch a bunch of them. Then read Jihadwatch and Islamwatch and Paliwatch on a regular basis. Then you can confirm for yourself that people like Walid Shoebat are the real deal.

        I keep a notebook of Koranic studies which I normally do on every Saturday for just a few hours. You’d be surprised how fast you can learn the Koran and Hadith. In just one month you will know more than the leaders of the CIA, DOD, NSA and POTUS combined. Yep, they are that thick-headed.

  • ryanomaniac

    Personally, I don’t trust Shoebat either. He has his own troubles that no one seems to acknowledge. Yousef already explained what he meant when Shoebat first started with this stuff. Is it enough? I don’t know. One thing is even if you are Muslim in some disguise to further Islam in any way as is written in the Koran (its OK to lie if it furthers Islam) you still can’t mock Allah. Yousef has trashed and mocked Allah relentless and the prophet Muhammad. Unacceptable no matter what in Islam. I also trust the Israeli handler from the Shimbet who told of Yousefs bravery and character and how he put his life on the line to save hundreds of Israelis. The Shimbet couldn’t have been more thankful. Yousef loves his people for sure but not for a terrorist cause but by saving his people from the barbaric teachings of Islam. I think Shoebat is more concerned with his title of being THE terrorist turned Christian. Just my two cents.

    • Patriot077

      Honest opinions are the best thing about this board, Ryan. Worth much more than 2 cents, IMHO. :)

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Well, as to that, Walid has gotten a LOT of blowback from people on the right that simply don’t want to believe the presentations he makes are 100% real. He and Pamela Geller get treated like the crazy uncle/aunt in the attic by right-side pundits.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2EG6AEL4NONXGPE5ZWFVKBI3SI Joel

    We, as faithful and Truth-seeking Christians, need to be on guard as evil is all around us lurking to deceive at every opportunity “it” can get. We have been given the gift of discernment, so use it wisely. Trust no one but the Word of God. We are in the very last days, and even some of the elect will be deceived or tested in their faith. Stay strong in faith in God and for love of country-the blessed U.S.A.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2EG6AEL4NONXGPE5ZWFVKBI3SI Joel

    Is Mosab Hassan Yousef a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” (or any other recent Muslim-turned-Christians)? Only G_d knows. Their fruits will reveal who they really are. But even past good deeds and present actions should not even be used as basis for easily trusting them and being gullible in our present time. My take on this is to be on guard always on what we believe that can influence us or sway us to go in the wrong direction.

  • http://twitter.com/commonsenseobse commonsenseobserver

    Rather a bumbler than a bomber.

  • Constance

    I am suspicious of the whole bunch, to tell you the truth. Yes, I realize that is not how I am supposed to be, but too much has happened now for me to be any other way. That old Trust But Verify thing. What I can state is that anyone who believes in Israeli occupation and hopes for victory against Israel is on my list of NO WAY. Victory against Israel simply means their complete destruction. I also do not believe for one minute that there is such a thing as an Arab Christian who is Palestinian. Rubbish.

  • Haywoodjbl

    If they believe in the Koran, then we are all to be converted or killed….END OF STORY…until we understand this fundamental we are vulnerable….NO MORE MOSQUES (or however you spell it) ..They are but a training ground to destroy us from within.

    There is no such thing as “Islamic extremists”….they all are, it is what the Koran asks of them.

    • StrangernFiction

      An Islamic extremist is like a big government ‘rat.

  • kong1967

    Ok, I read about the U.S. granting asylum, and how RS was supportive of that at the time. I read Shoebats article and watched all the translated videos.

    Mosab is a snake and a fraud. Question is, who is he lying to? Us or the Arabs? He was working with the Shin Bet as a double agent, but who was he double crossing? How do we know that the interviews in Arabic weren’t just to appease the Arab world while he trotted off to the United States to go surfing under a supposed guise of infilatrating our churches and our minds? It is the death penalty to convert to Christianity, so could he have been providing cover for himself?

    I’d rather be safe and say we can’t trust the double agent snake. I’ll take his word for it from the Arabic interviews that he did not believe any westerners would translate. Deport the bastard. it was a mistake to give him asylum.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    I am disappointed but not surprised. Many in America are turning their backs on Israel. Yousef is only as good as he has been taught and only God knows who and what he has been taught.

  • 911Infidel

    “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters–yes, even his own life–he cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:26

    Yousef is suffering from a really bad case of cognitive dissonace. On the one hand he…like many Christians in the ME support his dad, his tribe and what passes for his country. On the other hand he lays claim to Christianhood.

    While doing so, he disses the state of Israel. That scarf he is wearing in the clip is a testimony to his true allegiance.

    Then he hides his true feelings on Israel behind his use of the Arabic language. The gentleman that he was talking to also came to the same conclusion as this article.

    Someone here mentioned discernment and wisdom. That’s great. And here it is plain as day…and yet some still can’t see it.

    Nice job Scoop, posting this article.

  • Dodoforever Canspell

    What we often fail to realize is that the Christians in the Muslim lands are also Jew-haters. They might not have that stark raving mad hatred towards the Jewish people but they are haters nonetheless. I have Palestinian and Armenian Christian friends and the moment anything about Jews is mentioned, their eyes get ferocious although they have somewhat learnt to control and disguise their rage because they are out here in the West. The same goes for majority of the Coptic Christians and every kind of Christian in those countries … they blame all the troubles there on the Jews.

    • colliemum

      It looks as if the Christians in the muslim countries have partaken from that medieval attitude. Jew Hate was pretty much the done thing in all Christian churches in the West as well.

      It is only thanks to the generation of theologians after the Holocaust that we have been able to literally look at the NT and the OT through Jewish, or Middle Eastern eyes. And it is only through their work that we have learned that jew Hate is literally cutting off the roots from which Jesus came, and on which our Faith must be based.

      For me, these theologians have literally taken my old, weak, uncommitted Faith apart, dusted it down, and put the pieces back in the right order. My gratitude to them is without bounds.

  • Conniption Fitz

    There is an interesting article on Hamas at American Thinker: “Why Hamas Loves Death” http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/why_hamas_loves_death_and_cease-fires.html

  • Avspatti

    What we need is people who know Arabic as well as people who study Arabic. What is the name of that language series . . . Rosetta Stone! Libraries have it.

  • Orangeone

    As always Scoop, you bring us the most up-to-date and critical information! I will definitely check out Walid Shoebat’s article and interviews. I have to wonder what role the media played in this young man’s conclusion of “Israeli occupation”. If we look at the MSM today in our country, absent the correct information, Israel was the aggressor in Gaza. We know the truth because we seek it out. Millions do not.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      WELCOME BACK Orangeone! GREAT to see you here again! :-)

      • Orangeone

        Thank you Wolfie, missed my Scoop community :)

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          And we missed you too! I tried to tweet you a welcome back, but I’ve gone over my tweet limit for the day. I didn’t know I had one until I tried to tweet and was told so. Looking forward to your contributions and insightful comments on the news posted here on this great website!

          • Orangeone

            I’m spending some time now catching up! Twitter’s good but TRScoop is GREAT!

            • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

              NO argument from me on that one! :)

              (O/t I can tweet again now. I ‘ve no idea what that “reached your limit for the day” was about because a few mins later, I can tweet away again. Beats me!

              • Orangeone

                I saw your tweets!  I wonder if the 200 is a 24-hr period and you cross into a new day.  I didn’t know about limit either but 200/day is a lot for a babbler like me :)

            • colliemum

              Too right, Orangeone, and I love your av!

              Twitter is good for getting fast moving information.
              For debate – not so much! For debate this is the place – thank you TRS!

              • Orangeone

                Thanks colliemum!

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    Always nice to see a rat exposed.

    • colliemum

      Gawd – I misread this as ‘always nice to see a rat explode’ … hm. Wonder what brought that one …

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        LOL! Wishful thinking? ;-)

        • colliemum

          Yeah – that, or the memories of what his father’s followers did and still want to do.

      • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

        I never ‘sploded one, but I did nab two mice with a shop vac, once.

  • colliemum

    Late to the party ….

    Just two things to add:

    * if in doubt, go with Walid Shoebat;

    * question anyone who says they’r Christians, but their words do not show the love we’re told again and again in the NT to show to each other and above all to our enemies.

    That’s all.

  • Bucketheadbaptist

    I’ve read his book… seen him speak in person in Leiper’s Fork, TN at a Koinonia Institute event, (which Mr. Shoebat has ALSO spoken at our events).

    I know Mr. Shoebat and Mr. Yousef have each had a kind of long running argument… and I really would hesitate in placing Mr. Yousef in the role of “foe”…

    He seems to be a Christian… who is learning. He has a VERY different perspective than Western Christians… so it is very unfair of us to condemn his ideas and understanding, when we have not walked a mile in his shoes.

    I have several friends who are “Replacement” Theology Christians… I do not dismiss their salvation. I dismiss their teachers.

    • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

      Dittos to “different perspective”…

      Mosab is definitely NOT a ‘foe’ and neither is Walid, although Walid continues to be accused of not being a terrorist in his past who also converted from the buried one to the Risen One.

      Maybe, after Mosab matures in Christ and learns to clarify his comments, as the apostle Paul did and as Walid has done, maybe Mosab and Walid will join forces and speak together at conferences about how to respond to Islam.

      Maybe.

      Art

      • Bucketheadbaptist

        I very much like that idea Art.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry-Douglas-Elliott/1591951889 Larry Douglas Elliott

    I’ve been following the news on Mosab Yousef ever since he sought asylum and I actively supported his asylum. I think one has to consider Mr. Yousef is in process related to faith and that not everything any nation or group does can be supported – even Israel. Biblically Israel is God’s chosen people to because they were the nation through whom Christ came, but we know God is no respector of persons and has not always been pleased with Israel as evidenced by their exiles in history. At the same time certinaly God does not support Hamas either. Before being totally for or against Mr. yousef, one should also consider the the following:

    His support for the Qu’ran Dilemma – a very good work at:

    http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/

    His support/invovlement for the following movie:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/islam-is-a-religion-of-war-grandson-of-hamas-founder-to-expose-the-life-of-muhammed-in-new-film/

    These are very powerful polemics.

    If I am off base, convince me I am.

  • crosshr

    This is someone that has received the seed, that is the Word of God.

    Sowing the SEED or Planting it doesn’t guaranty wonderful harvest and precious fruit. In Yosef’s case, he received the teaching of the Word.He seems to understand. As his knowledge in the Lord needs to keep on growing, lot of maintenance work has to be done.

    Spiritual Maintenance of our walk with God will create a close personal relationship. That relationship will open a two way flow of the Spirit in to us and us in to God.In other word, God dwells in us and the life we live is no longer of our own but God living in us, directing us, guiding us and talking through us. I wonder if that experience took place and grew in Yosefs’ life.

    A friend told me once that trust is to be proved. A good healthy tree must bear precious fruits that may yield wonderful harvest.

    • colliemum

      “Maintenance work” – I like that expression!

      There are very many people who received the seed, but who then think this is all that’s needed.
      It isn’t.
      Following Christ is hard work – indeed like maintenance work, because there are always chinks in our armour of Faith, which allow the Satan to get in.

      It is odd, isn’t it, that we seem to be so reluctant to talk about the traps and seductions the Satan is putting into our paths, on a daily basis. Yes, I too talk about needing to work on being patient, for example, without saying why I need to work on it.
      The Desert Fathers said that those who are working hard to defy Satan are under attack more than those who think that confessing Jesus Christ as King and Saviour, once or twice, is sufficient.

      So perhaps Yosef is trapped, and needs our prayers.

  • http://twitter.com/WaiGuoGuizi 学中文的美国男人

    Mosab Yousef is an example of someone who is anti-terrorism. Martin Luther King was also against political violence. He’s just trying to advance his agenda non-violently.

  • papajames

    How about Mosab’s speech at the Deustcher Israel Kongress in October of 2011, six months after the controversy with Shoebat?

    Isn’t it possible that his views are changing/maturing over time? What has he written or said since October 2011 that would put him in the “foe” camp?

    A very important book, Geert Wilders “Marked for Death” is an excellent expose of Islam as it penetrates the West – it should be required reading for every entering college freshman, and mandatory memorization for all college faculty! However, if Wilders is marked for death because of what he has said and written, then Mosab doubly so, because he has not only disrespected Islam, he is also an apostate.

    I think Walid Shoebat has valuable insights on Islam and Christian eschatology, but I think he over-reacted in the May 2011 incidents, and I found Mosab’s responses to Shoebat considerably more graceful.

    • keyesforpres

      I believe Mosab is saying one thing in English and another in Arabic. Taqiyya.

  • Michael Beck

    God promised that he would restore the Jews to the land of Israel according to Ezekiel 36-39. The Jews were given back their homeland through the San Remo resolution of 1920 which divvied up the Ottoman Empire. The Arab’s received the lions share of the portion(s) by the way; including Syria (now divided between Syria and Lebanon), Mesopotamia and all of Arabia. The resolution also included the Balfour Declaration, written by England’s Lord Balfour in 1917. The declaration called for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.” The San Remo resolution has been called Israel’s “Magna Carta.” Israel became a nation once again in 1948. All of this is by God’s design and was fullfilled according to God’s promise. God has not rejected and disowned His people. [Romans 11:3] But a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, “THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.” [Romans 11:25-26]

    Jews who receive Christ as their personal Savior become part of the family of God through faith in Christ. Paul the Apostle in the New Testament was a devout Jew who was also a Pharisee (a Jewish religous scholar) who converted to Christianity after Christ appeared to him on the road to Damascus. [Acts 9] Unbelieving Jews i.e. those who reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah will die in their sins. “And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.” [Romans 11:23]

    Mosab Yousef may be a Christian but he and his fellow Arabs don’t belong in Palestine because Palestine was given to the Jews according to the San Remo resolution of 1920. Israel has a right to exist as a nation. God himself gave the land back to the Jews (from exile) and “the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” [Romans 11:29] Therefore, if Mosab Yousef is calling for the elimination of Israel he is fighting against God and as we know fighting against God is futile. Mosab Yousef is wrong in his effort to try and force Jews from the land of Israel and he needs to repent of his error.

    The Bible says this about Israel. God will “bless those who bless you and will curse those who curse you.” [Genesis 12:3] The Bible also says in Psalms 122:6 “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May they prosper who love you.” Jesus Christ himself was born through the lineage of King David (Joseph’s side). Jesus Christ loves the Jews just as he loves all mankind. The reason Christ came to the Earth was in order to save mankind from their sins. Jews need Jesus just like everyone else needs Jesus. Mosab Yousef needs to come clean and he also needs to get on the right side of history. Israel isn’t going anywhere because God gave the Jews the land of Israel as their possession. Mosab Yousef needs to quit fighting against Israel. Because in reality he is really fighting against God in doing so. I can’t make it any plainer than that. Hopefully he’ll get the message. Christians need to reach out to him and show him the error of his ways. Hopefully it’s not too late. It almost sounds like he is reverting back to his pre-Christian way of life. That would be sad indeed if it’s true. Maybe his dad has more influence on him than he’d like to admit.

    • papajames

      Michael, the October 2011 video referenced above indicates to me that he has already seen the error of his ways.

  • http://profiles.google.com/silverstein.larry03 larry silverstein

    THE PEACE OF ALLAH TO YOU & ALL NON MUSLIMS

    Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

    Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”

    Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.”

    Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

    Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

    Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

    Quran (21:44) – “We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?”

    Quran (25:52) – “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…” “Strive against” is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context. It’s also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

    Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to “fight in the way of Allah” (3:167) and hence don’t act as Muslims should), those with “diseased hearts” (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and “alarmists” or “agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad’s biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today’s terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah’s eternal word to Muslim generations.

    Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,” Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. “But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.”

    Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,”

    Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means ‘spiritual struggle.’ Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

    Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for ‘hard’ or ‘ruthless’ in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as ‘painful’ or severe’ in verse 16.

    Quran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.”

    Quran (61:10-12) – “O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity.” This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

    Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.” The root word of “Jihad” is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include “hypocrites” – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.