Tavis Smiley: We need a govt program to eradicate poverty

I didn’t get very far in this video before I had to stop and say, “huh?” Tavis Smiley says the government needs to make poverty a priority and create a national plan to eradicate poverty, like other countries have done. Wait, other countries have eradicated poverty?

But then, he’s asked to define poverty, and that you have to hear (via Townhall):

I was all prepared to write a paragraph on why people assume it’s the government’s job to ‘eradicate’ poverty. It’s a great point, because I think that if you know someone who is poor, the first words out of your mouth to them aren’t “hey maybe the government can raise you out of poverty”. That’s a ridiculous notion to most of us. The government only keeps you in poverty, and perhaps from dying of starvation. But when has the government ever been the source for raising people into the middle class?

No, it’s up to the individual to better themselves because they are the only one who really controls their destiny, which is unlimited in America. They can go to school, get special training, and rise on their own.

But you have these Marxist/socialist types who insist that it’s the government’s job to eradicate poverty. It’s insanity on every level. The best thing the government can do is create an environment that maximizes economic growth where there are jobs a plenty, and that will go much, much farther to reducing poverty.

But then Smiley says there is a poverty of hope, truth, affirmation, and that those are just as important as economic poverty? Dude, Smiley is insane. I’m not even sure of how to respond to that, other than to get Smiley a one way ticket to the utopia that we all know and love as N. Korea. Let him live there for a while and see if that changes his perspective a little.

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  • KenInMontana

    Smiley didn’t drink the kool-aid, he has been bathing in it.

    • He urinates kool aid and his socialist following readily laps it up

    • las1

      Extended baths are called marinade.

      • KenInMontana

        Stewed Smiley?

        • las1


    • tvlgds

      And injecting it directly into his veins!

  • “I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin

    • warpmine

      Just another old white guy to these assclowns

      • The old white guy has lived his life in the true America,go ahead and change this once wonderful and most opportunistic country on the face of the earth into a marxist miserable nation! We who have lived our lives in America of the past have experienced life that generations of late will never know! The assclowns are those who are obama’s useful idiots!

  • Asian_chic

    America was never about the haves and have nots. America is about freedom: freedom to succeed and yes, freedom to fail. What he’s talking about is income inequality and redistribution of wealth.

  • Maxsteele

    Did he just say that “other countries have eradicated poverty”???? Which countries are these? I do not know a single country in the history of the world that has eradicated poverty. In reality, if you compare the USA, Canada and some European nations with Australia and the rest of the world, indeed (relatively speaking) poverty has been eradicated in these countries.
    The left wing socialist utopians cannot rest until they achieve equal outcome for all rather then the greatness of equal oporttunity that America was founded on.
    What they refer to as poverty in the USA would be middle class in any African nation, most eastern european nations, and most of Asia also.
    It just is never enough for these people.

    • warpmine

      Smiley needs to go and live with Obama’s half brother in Kenya in that one room mud house then maybe, maybe he’ll come down off his high perverbial horse.

      • toongoon

        Kenya is probably one of those countries that has eradicated poverty, when everyone lives in mud huts, who is the worst off?

        • The village idiot with the ugliest wife.

          • toongoon

            Ewwww. I believe your right, we need another govt. program. Maybe Moochelle will get right on it.

        • NYGino

          It’s a relative thing, isn’t it.

      • tvlgds

        I thought it was a cardboard box! Hey, he could add on–another cardboard box! LOL!

      • Maxsteele

        Amen warpmine. I honestly believe they should send all these occupy wall street types on a free trip to an impoverished African nation to live with orphaned children who fend for themselves. No money, no food, just an education in reality through the school of hard knocks. Six months of this should be enough to scare them straight about the reality of just how great they and the so called poor of America have it. I am not saying that I do not have empathy for those living in relative poverty in north america. Yet, what they do have that no other poor in the world have is the possibility and the opportunity to achieve whatever level of financial status they strive to in the USA and Canada. Yet, what these socialist want is to keep these people on social assistance programs to keep them poor so they can control and manipulate them. What the poor do not understand is that the democrats are the ones that want to keep them that way because by doing so they can be assured of their continued votes. It is unfortunate because the USA is the greatest nation on earth (this is coming from me, a Canadian).

      • unclesamnephew

        no! as my favorite lawyer (Mark Levin) would say send him to north korea. Mark would ask the him “how are the people in Karl Marx utopia doing you DOPE?” “they are on their hands and knees look for grubs and weeds to eat”

    • p m

      So true, maxsteele. Here’s an excellent Heritage report that’s worth checking out: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/07/what-is-poverty

      Also, Victor Davis Hanson, another national treasure, writes very well about this and many more subjects: http://victorhanson.com/

  • Goldni007

    In the middle of Mark Levin’s Ameritopia now. Must read. Talks about all this crap.

    • unclesamnephew

      isn’t this book great? i believe it should be required reading in home schooling, home schooling for all ages. i am over 50 and learned alot by reading this book

  • B-Funk

    The progressives are getting desperate. I can read it between the lines in everything they’re doing/saying these days.

  • 911Infidel

    Guess old Tavis never heard of LBJ’s “war on poverty” . And how’d that work out? It swelled the welfare rolls. Increased the divorce rate among the poor. Increased the amount of simgle mothers and deadbeat fathers. It was an epic waste of taxpayer dollars and a historic epic failure.

    You’d think that LBJ after hanging out with Billy Graham might have heard Dr Graham quote the Scripture “The poor you will always have with you”. (Matt 26:11)

    Then again Tavis is not real bright. He’s just another race-baiting tea-bagger for Satan.

    If anything needs to be done for Tavis, the best solution is to defund NPR and Pubic TV.

    As far as what the rest of the world does for the poor…look no further than any third-world country. Its the NGOs and Christian organizations that are front and center tackling the problem, not governments.

    In the West the answer to poverty is welfare and handouts. Their stupidity is on display for all to see.

    Kind of like you Tavis. What a pretentious dolt you are.

    • unclesamnephew

      Obama wants a surge in LBJ’s war. surge in increased taxes

      • 911Infidel

        One of the all-time liberal bigoted moments came when LBJ said on tape about Civil Rights legislation: “I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”
        Tavis is a complete dumba$$ for being a part of the same party that invented Jim Crowe and the Klan. Naturally Obama and Tavis feed from the same trough of horse crap when it comes to race and politics. The two morons are busily tea-bagging for the Lord of the Flies. What they’re really after is a reverse racism that makes all white people untermench and makes Blacks their masters.

  • Kk then, do these three things based on Santorum’s statistics that if you graduate high-school, go to work, and have children before you get married you’ll have a 2% chance of being in poverty.

    1. Hand control of the schools and curriculum back to the states and local communities, give out vouchers to let parents have school choice and encourage parents to take the time to homeschool. (worked for me)

    2. Do major cutting of the federal budget, throw out all the unnecessary burdensome regulations and then pass the FairTax. (major economic growth will create the open jobs)

    3. Passed the constitutional amendment that life begins at conception, defund Planned Parenthood completely, spend the money on abstinence programs so our kids will stop having kids, and make Marriage a respected institution again.

    This may not completely rid America of poverty, but it would be a great start don’t you think?

    • I think you must mean “have children after you get married”. I’m sorry to disagree, but these three things would only make a difference in a healthy country. This country is sick. What you and Santorum describe requires something that is in very short supply…. restraint, consequential thought, respect. You think there is any chance of the people we see brawling on YouTube every other month in their local IHOP give a crap about poverty? They don’t.

      • thanks for telling me about the typo (won’t be making that mistake again lol) and of course we can’t eradicate poverty in todays society, thats why i listed the stuff needed to move our nation in the right direction so that we’ll be able to do it someday!

    • warpmine

      I’ve been giving PP some thought and think perhaps a name change would do it some good. We name it Planned Genocide but still keep it in the black neighborhoods just to see if we call it what it is the attitudes change. I’m interested to see if those so called black leaders will accept the new name or finally call it out. If business slows we can offer hot wings and other ethnic foods just to see if it makes a difference to the mind numbed scum that seem to believe that giving life is a terrible burden.

  • Wow what an asinine comment by smiley.

    While your at it create a government program that wipes everyone’s ass.

  • warpmine

    I thought we have a govt program for poverty. Oh, wait, I missed that little tidbit about raising people out of poverty. Obama’s regime is putting the middle class into poverty faster than a heroin/gambling addict.

  • sDee

    Hey Smiley ever hear of a Fellow Traveler named LBJ? He beget the War on Poverty and it is still crushing the hopes, lives, dreams, ambitions and and souls of millions of Americans to this day.

    Yes, carry on Smiley. Keep spinning your wheels in the muck of your own ignorance.

  • OH MY Goodness! Can we please stop the madness?! PLEASE think people! The government has put millions of people INTO poverty, millions have been in generational government handed out friking poverty! AND WILL you PLEASE stop calling America a democracy?! It’s a REPUBLIC!!! There is a difference. Now, look around smiley, and tell me honestly, what socialized or communist nation can you show me where poverty has been erradicated by government? Hmmmm…. I’ll be over here watching my child grow into adulthood while I wait for an answer.

    • I had to laugh loudly reading your comment. One of my favorite things to do is to ask a group of liberal “friends” what type of government we have. I give them four choices, Democracy, Oligarchy, Representative Republic, or Dictatorship. Hilariously, they almost all always say “Democracy!”. I then simply tell them “you are wrong, I don’t want to argue with you, tomorrow look it up.” Proof on a regular basis that most liberals simply have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

      • sDee

        What is worse is that union teachers will say it is a democracy when they know full well that it is not.

      • I need to use that part “I don’t want to argue with you, tomorrow, look it up.” That’s GOOD! 🙂

        • I live in the Socialist State of California, so unfortunately I use that one more often than I would like.

        • veek46

          But they won’t look it up because liberals are intellectually lazy.

      • keyesforpres

        Here’s a good come back, “How does the pledge of allegiance go?….I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the democracy for which it stands…………no wait, that’s not it!”

    • Just read this in Sarah Palin’s Big Government piece. “They express our identification with him, and our need to continue his fight for the good of our republic.”

      The MSM is sitting there, “what the hell is a republic?”

      • No kidding! I’m not even a citizen, but it rubs me absolutely the wrong way when I hear especially politicians call America a democracy- and it’s pure ignorance of people who ought to know this. In the case of politicians and the lamestream though- I guess it’s the desire of them to have a democracy, so if they tell the lie often enough they’ll believe it.

  • Poverty in America includes owning:
    -Air conditioning
    -2 cars
    -Running water
    -Xbox 360/Playstation 3
    -Free medical(Medicaid)
    -Food on the table(Food stamps)

    Poverty to the rest of the world means owning none of the above.

    • tvlgds

      Don’t forget the big screen plasmas!

      • Ah yes! One must have a flat screen tv with cable in order to survive in these modern times! To do without is outright inhumane and must not be tolerated

    • poljunkie

      AND a cell phone

      • keyesforpres

        With free minutes.

    • unclesamnephew

      but! they cannot afford I.D. so they can vote

    • keyesforpres

      It also turns out that a person making $14,000 a year and getting gov’t supplements now has as much spending money as a person working and making $60,000 per year!

  • toongoon

    What countries have eradicated poverty? That should have been the most important question. Although the question “how do you define poverty?” brought a up a whole new dimension of poverty which trying to resolve would make it impossible to solve.

    Oh Lord, I wish we had fewer idiots in the media.

  • tvlgds

    Just another Maobama lap dog!

  • M_J_S

    Its called “death”

  • I love how the first thing he does his hawk the book he wrote with that psychotic-looking, bucktoothed communist, Corny West.

    Little does he realize that the very thing that would give him everything he wants is found in following the very thing that he hates, perhaps as much as Obama: the Constitution. Eliminating all the spending on unfunded liabilities, and putting power back in the hands of the people he claims to champion would turn this country right around, and we all know that’s not what Smiley wants.

    • warpmine

      You mean he penned a book with buweet?

  • msverde1

    Delusional and intellectually dishonest…Oops!…Was I attempting to use Tavis Smiley and “intellectual” dishonesty in the same phrase. My o my! Now I have lost my mind!!!

  • lightbearer11

    Just another addition to the original Socialist plan of taking from the private sector and giving it to the public sector to win and influence people for their minds and votes.

    “…worldly people are more clever than enlightened people in dealing with their own.” Lk16:8

  • PChandler

    The demagoguery and the gaseous verbiage of that guy is just outstanding.

  • 12grace

    ‘A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.’ -Thomas Jefferson-

    • toongoon

      I wish we had some of those Virginians here today. I know we have at least one of those Gentlemen here at Scoop.

  • KenInMontana

    Tavis Smiley, dancing madly backwards.

  • sDee

    Thomas Sowell on Bell, Obama and the fruits of Racial Quotas:

    “”Bell even said that he took it as his mission to say things to annoy white people. Perhaps he thought that was better than being insignificant in his academic setting. But it was in fact far worse, because the real damage was to impressionable young blacks who took him seriously, including one who went on to become President of the United States.””


  • sjmom

    The economy may not be good right now but according to Tavis even if it improves poverty will remain. What a depressing mindset. Since he has a new book coming out why doesn’t he donate the proceeds?

  • Manifesto……………Cornell West and I have written a book about poverty and we will blah, blah, blah.

    The thing is, the more war we have on poverty, the more poverty there is. Hmmmm, right? Hmmmm, let us have thermonuclear war on poverty, or thermonuclear war on drugs.

    These people are insane.

  • Alborn

    There is a good point in the paragraph above about buying tickets for the utopia country where this government they speak of is working. I have thought about setting up a non-profit and soliciting donations for buying one way tickets for any of these socialist/communist to the country of their choice where they think they can have a better life provided for them by the govenment. If I were rich I would set up a foundation for this purpose. I am sick of these people. They need to get out of this country. The only problem they would just turn around and come back so they would have to sign an contract agreeing not to return to the USA for at least ten years.

    • 1654american

      If you do set up a business for that purpose, just be sure to make it an 8A, in a HUB Zone, check any race block except ‘white’, and call your company Green-anything. You’ll have a dump truck full of stimulus money dropped in your front yard tomorrow.

  • marketcomp

    Sadly, He is right. And because he is telling the truth he is considered an outcast with the Obama Administration becasue this is a direct reflection of the Obama Administration.

  • Idiot. There’s been a government program to eradicate poverty since LBJ, it just made it worse. “One out of every two Americans are living in poverty”??? That is only because this Administration redefined how poverty was measured.

    The fact that he worked with Cornell West on a book is proof that he is just another race pimp who has no clue what he is talking about.

  • stang289

    Feeding AmeriKa is a democratic organization out of Chicago of all places that is taking over all small local food banks , Ceo makes a half a million a year , Our local food bank president which is connected to feeding AmeriKA used to be head of the local Planned Parenthood . Create a crisis and create a solution to the problem and you are the hero ,

  • amyshulk

    Want free housing, medical & food? Join the military. Oh yeah, you can’t raise yourself up that way anymore. OR buy a used car to get to that crappy job that keeps food on the table and the lights on. There is a war on poverty already, and instead of raising all boats, the gov’t is punching holes in all the hulls!!!

  • MaxineCA

    I know I’m getting in late on this one but I had to take a break before my head exploded with all of the other stuff going on. From your old friend Maxine, here is my analysis watching this several (painful) times.

    Words MATTER! This guy talked so fast, but watch it again and see if you come to the same conclusion.

    At the start – trailer at the bottom “Women and children living in poverty” Really? Where? He says 1 out of 2 Americans are living in poverty. Really? Are you talking about the Sudan or U.S.?

    He and Cornell West’s book is The Rich and The Rest of Us, (the poverty manifesto.) Are you serious?

    Bottom line:
    I guess since Andrew and his good folks at Breitbart exposed Bell and others that are now having impact on our government policies regarding CRT (Critical Race Theory), they are moving to women and children as the victims. Notice he says (around 1:25) it’s not color coded. Guess the race card isn’t working, so now they are going for women (Duh). Any wonder why the contraceptive thing was contrived?

  • K-Bob

    Tavis is poor. Just like the rest of the left: to poor to pay attention.

  • Kordane

    RS: “No, it’s up to the individual to better themselves because they are the only one who really controls their destiny, which is unlimited in America. They can go to school, get special training, and rise on their own. But you have these Marxist/socialist types who insist that it’s the government’s job to eradicate poverty. It’s insanity on every level

    It’s not insanity, but it is the morality of altruism at work.

    And the sad thing is that Conservatives offer NO alternative to said morality.

  • A one way ticket to the utopia of N. Korea? Okay, but he has to take Sean Penn with him.
    I can’t even believe this is considered a serious conversation. Eradicating poverty of hope, poverty of opportunity, poverty of education? Other countries have done it? Are you kidding me? This isn’t about a gap between the “have gots and have nots”: were talking about a serious gap in ideology here and it scares me more everyday. How do you even reason with people this entrenched in their ideology that they can’t even see day light? It seems so hopeless. Every time you hit back at these people with facts they become more and more disconnected. You can even begin to see and feel a sort of desperation in their expressions and in their voices. He seems scared to me, like if they don’t hurry up and save the world now then it’s all over. All the chips are on the table. I’m am truly afraid of what some of these people are capable of when they finally realize that everything they’ve ever believed, everything they’ve ever lived for, fought for and sacrificed for is all bs.

  • wodiej

    The gov’t is actually oppressing people and keeping them in poverty. It’s the longest war in US history and it won’t get better until the gov’t quits choking business and enabling people. People get out of poverty by responsibility and personal accountability. That means getting a job and keeping it. Not having kids you can’t support. Living a lifestyle that fits your budget. Getting as much education and training as you can.

  • Been_There_BT

    I can see from his comments that the War on Stupid still has a long way to go.

    • virginiagentleman1

      My friend, yours is the understatement of the day! Well done, BT!

  • NCHokie02

    Wasn’t there already a “war on poverty”? And what country specifically has “erradicated poverty”? I would have liked to hear that answer. I’m also guessing that with all the job loss he has talked about and “half of the country being in or near poverty” that he saw that he will vote for Obama in the fall because BO has created jobs for the poor and ran on hope last time which is something people are poor of because they don’t have hope and BO can give them affirmation that they will have hope so they won’t be poor in those areas anymore just in the monetary area. So then they won’t have to worry about their poor feelings they’ll just have to worry about finacially supporting themselves or their families.

    Also lets look at what “poor” people have in this country. I guarantee you there are “poor” people that live in a dump and receive gov’t subsidies for food and housing yet drive around in an Escalade cause any money they make goes to that car payment. The level of “poor” in this country is nowhere near as bad as it is in others. Poor people in our country have cars, cell-phones, heating, air conditioning, tv, Xbox etc. There are kids in other countries that have one set of clothes. Thats what they where everyday. They live in homes made of mud. Any electricity may be run by a little conductor powered by a D battery and that really only powers a light bulb in the room and its only run at night.

  • Sober_Thinking

    “But then Smiley says there is a poverty of hope, truth, affirmation, and that those are just as important as economic poverty?”

    He’s actually right here… maobama has stolen the hope of millions. Truth? Seriously? Maobama lies at every turn and the media consistently covers up for him. Affirmation… how many people are now discouraged and despondent… how many people feel worthless because they don’t have a job? So, he’s right and because he’s an ignorant moron he doesn’t realize that he just indirectly criticized his master: maobama.

    • NYGino

      Agree. this rant really is an indictment on the current occupier of our White House, his administration and his policies.

  • NYGino

    “How do you define poverty?”. Just another opening question to splinter off another segment of our society. Now he’s saying the American middle class is a victim of poverty when in reality even the poor in this country live better than 95% of the rest of the world.

    The goal of this is to make more and more people resent the so called 1%, it’s just another recruitment program for the left.

  • keyesforpres

    I knew he was off his rocker when he said a couple of years ago that Obama was the truly first American president! Ah dude, you got that totally backwards.

  • denbren52

    The “War on Poverty” has resulted in decades of a growing population of people enslaved by the government and its anti-poverty programs. The “safety net” for the poor has become their comfy nest.

    If you really want to eradicate poverty, first eradicate socialism and radical environmentalism which are destroying jobs and enslaving more and more people very year in government programs instead of providing needed jobs.

  • virginiagentleman1

    What we really need is a program to eradicate foolish and mis-informed talking heads like Smiley, Shultz, Olberman, etc.
    Maybe a nice ‘padded’ studio in a mental hospital where they can speak whatever idiocy that comes to their minds, ( they still have minds don’t they?) into mikes and cameras that broadcast only in the hospital.
    They’ll quickly drive themselves totally insane listening to their own and each others drivel.
    Just a thought.

  • rls77

    “One half of Americans are either in or near poverty” I was slack jawed. Tell that to some third world country and then wonder why they hate us.

  • kong1967

    Poverty is impossible to eradicate. We will always have people that don’t do for themselves and don’t want to. No matter how much money is floating around, there are going to be a lot of people who do not apply themselves to get their own stash (ethically and legally). They don’t want to work…period.

    So, how do you raise them out of poverty? The left’s answer is always more welfare in higher amounts. We are a rich nation with Donald Trump, and people of his “ilk” should share some of their money with those who do nothing to earn it. If they would just share we would have no poverty and no suffering.

    Problem is, libs…..there’s not that much freaking money!!! You could take away every penny from the top 1% and the poor might get a little spending money for a while, but when it’s gone it’s over. The rich will not work for free in order to carry the free-loaders. When they stop trying to make a buck, they stop hiring people to work for them. Result….dead country.

    If you go to pure socialism, which is supposed to cure poverty, you have more poverty…and worse poverty…than this country has ever known. These morons don’t realize that it’s the rich, heavy investors that provide the jobs to lift everyone OUT of poverty. Because of them, we don’t see people without sanitary waste systems…without electricity even installed in the homes…etc. If you win, a-hole, we will start seeng those things.

  • MiketheMarine

    I vaguely recall reading somewhere something about giving someone a fish versus teaching them to fish………

    Don’t mind my ramblings.

  • TPDanbo

    We need a government program to end……………fill in the blank……….1) government programs 2) government overspending 3) Obama and the Dems. 4)George Soros activities and his puppet companies 4) leftist groups andWacko Environmental groups 5) all of the above!!!

  • Steve_J

    The poverty he is talking about can be eradicated by actually getting an education and not listening to the likes of Farakan, Jackson, Sharpton, Wrigtht, and the whole race hustling group.

  • Nitnyline

    Can we get a list of all those “other Countries” that have eradicated poverty? Maybe call some of them up and ask,”How is that working out for you?” Just so we can get a blueprint of how to go about that. FYI, I am mocking him. I think he is out in the far left bleachers.

  • koolinAmerica

    With what he is prescribing, the other 1/2 will be in proverty as well.

  • koolinAmerica

    Wasn’t President Johnson’s “Great Society” to wipe out proverty in America? That was a GOVERNMENT program and still is and we can see how successful that it was.

  • JoelDick

    There’s a book by Henry Hazlitt called “The Wisdom of Henry Hazlitt”. I recommend that everyone should read the section called “On Poverty and Welfare”, especially the chapters called “False Remedy for Poverty” and “Income without Work”.

    It should be required reading for anyone seeking to hold public office.

  • Colonel Neville

    Ah, smiley faced liberal fascism. Of course, that would be Smiley’s pal Cornell West, the brilliant Marxist race hustler and gap-toothed weirdo clown cum parasite. No, really. Colonel Neville.

  • The only way to eradicate poverty is to eradicate human beings. Oh, that has already been tried by the Communists.

  • The govt is the reason for the poverty in our country!

  • obama says oil drilling does’nt work, he said this recently at a predominately black community college in Md , gee.. it sure works for the saudi’s just fine! obama’ belief is that the American public is stupid,if he makes a statement the uninformed will believe it! Fuel prices are pushing me into poverty. What this tavis is stating is what America was before oloser got his marxist hands on our country!

  • Hey Racist pinhead, obama is the answer for poverty, remeber he and the democrat party, better known as the party of death, are the foodstamp kings and queens of america!

    Tea Party Patriot

  • GEDouglas

    His association with Cornell West tells you all you need to know. The current tax system redistributes so much money as it is that most do everything they can to remain impoverished…and Tavis wants to redistribute more. That is exactly what he and Cornell are talking about. Taking more from the haves and giving to the have nots. There is a book on it I think. The Communist Manifesto. It’s all part of the big transformation of America and it is what these people believe. This election really is a turning point. Unless they are defeated in Nov I fear that shared misery is our destiny.

  • semihardrock

    More Communist Indoctrination!