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Apparently TIME Magazine has a new cover out today lauding Rubio as the next Republican savior:

Marco Rubio has already responded on Twitter:

Boom! Nicely done.

(h/t: Twitchy)

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  • Sandra123456

    See? RINO. Ted Cruz, maybe the leader we need for the future. Rubio, no.

    • tsturbo

      Amen! If the corrupt media cabal is supporting anything, you can be sure it is their best interests. Ted Cruz so far has been a fearless and unapologetic conservative.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      I like Cruz a lot, but don’t rule out Rubio either. I like them both.

    • http://twitter.com/SheerPolitics Sheer Politics

      Props for Rubio’s tweet. But it’s obvious the GOP leadership is once again pushing a moderate for 2016. Christie screwed up when did that photo op with Obama (how’s that FEMA help working out for ya now?) They would NEVER support a teaparty conservative like Cruz. Which is why we need to take back the republican party–a third party will just split Republican and we will keep losing to the democrats. They keep thinking that they need to push someone who is more and more moderate. We don’t need candidates that are Democrat-lite…they lose every time. We need someone who is different and who can articulate the conservative message, without getting caught up in the democrat rope-a-dope.

      • steprock

        I hear you, but it seems to me that the GOP has no intention of coming back to the Right. I am often tempted to withdraw my membership altogether until they get the message. For the last eight years, I’ve been saying “Maybe next cycle they’ll get the memo”.

        I would prefer to hope you are right in your optimism!

    • Indiana

      No. Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin all still say he is a new face in conservative leadership and not a RINO.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

      Ted Cruz can’t run for president he was born in Canada. But he’s going to make a great Senator, I hope for a long time.

      • keyesforpres

        Neither can Rubio….his parents weren’t US citizens at the time of his birth, therefore they could not NATURALLY pass US citizenship to him….

        • http://twitter.com/SheerPolitics Sheer Politics

          Obama’s parents were not both citizens; just his mother (and she was not of legal age–then 21). So that constitutional argument has sailed and hasn’t even been brought up, only Obama’s birthplace. A natural born citizen is a person born in the United States. If you read the amendment there is nothing about having to have parents as citizens. Article Two says:

          “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

          If you read what they meant, they cover those at the signing of the Constitution no matter where they were born. And those born afterwards in the US. So being born in the US makes you a “natural born citizen.” They did not want someone who was born elsewhere, immigrated and became a naturalized citizen to run for president.

          But it gets more confusing because Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:” http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

          Anyone born inside the United States *
          Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
          Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
          Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
          Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
          Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
          Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
          A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

          This is why John McCain could run for president even though he was born near Panama. His parents were in the service. So it depends on if Ted’s parents were citizens as to him being a US citizen. I don’t hear anything about him being a naturalized citizen, however, which he would have to be at least to be a Senator.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Poncy/1339730989 Jeremy Poncy

      Be careful. This is the lefts way of demonizing Rubio. They are trying to get lash back from the tea party crowd. Anybody with brain knows Rubio would never approve this cover by Time. It clearly makes him look like an idiot especially to Christian conservatives. They are also trying to take advantage of the split in the party. They are terrified of Rubio and what he has the ability to do with the Latino vote. I prefer Cruz as well but I love that the Dems are so terribly afraid of this man.

    • keyesforpres

      Exactly. If this leftwing rag loves Rubio it means he’s really a democrat.

    • NWIGOP

      No he is not a RINO. Stop throwing hat out there like so many radical people

  • rjcylon

    I like Rubio personally but the fact that Time put him on the cover and called him our next great hope is NOT a good sign.

    Sorry Marco. They only build up the ones they know can’t win.

    • http://twitter.com/SheerPolitics Sheer Politics

      And once again, the photo is certainly not a flattering one. Obviously comparing him to their savior Obama in a negative light as in: THIS is the Republican savior?” snark snark

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ODSG4THJW3SRGYHSQ7KHU32U5Q 3D 81

    brace yourselves. We will be getting alot of these articles over the next four years as new so called saviour personalities pop up every now and again. Pretty much meaningless.

  • http://twitter.com/TravlinTrad Allons-y!

    Rubio’s right. He is not.

  • http://twitter.com/TravlinTrad Allons-y!

    Rubio’s right. He’s not.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/MVKB24PATKM3BXCRTLD62FUKK4 Richard

    “Time” it’s smell fish

  • JRD1

    And knowing what we know that should set off alarm bells in every conservative.

    I always wanted to believe in this guy because I just detested Orange Charlie so much. We were warned about Rubio in Florida. We just refused to listen.

    How does someone who says they were inspired by Reagan sell out to the shrubs?

    • Orangeone

      And then turn around and peddle Reagan’s illegal alien amnesty failure, again.

    • sDee

      I ma with you. I got caught up in the excitement of 2010 and put time and money into Rubio and Brown, both outside my state.

      I remember well the warnings of Florida conservatives about Rubio, which I ignored. Pamela Geller was screaming warnings about Brown. Both men turned out to be sellouts.

      I vowed to never be fooled again. Or at lest not so damn easily. ;)

  • Conservative_Hippie

    Good response from Marco!

  • sjmom

    For TIME to “anoint” Rubio is like putting a pox on him which is probably what they’re trying to do. It’s disgusting how they are always trying to replace God and though I’m not a Marco fan I will give him credit for recognizing the Savior and knowing its not him, unlike Obama who thinks he is king and God.

    • Orangeone

      But Rubio had to approve of that cover before it was published so…..

      • steprock

        What? No he didn’t. TIME can run whatever they want, and often do.

        • Orangeone

          You have to give approval for something like that. TIME cannot simply put your image on their cover with a splash like that. This is not the National Enquirer which is frequently sued for doing such nonsense.

          • steprock

            I reeeeaallly doubt you are correct. And the stuff Time runs vs. National Enquirer…there’s no comparison.

            If you can find any supporting facts, I’ll be happy to concede the point. However, I have never heard of journalists having to get permission to print any story or cover. They have guaranteed freedom of the press and say what they please. They often get their interview subjects ticked off over how they wrote the story, photoshopped the cover pic, etc.

            • Orangeone

              I’m sure you can do that research yourself. Ask yourself this, if the cover said Marco Rubio, latest in a long line of wife beaters, think that would happen?

              • steprock

                No, that’s Libel and is clearly illegal. Printing something you do not like is not.

                Consider: Why would Time consistently be unkind to Conservatives if they had to approve them in advance? Why would they print things that are questioning of The One from time to time? I fear you are incorrect in your assumption here. Interviewees do not get to approve the covers.

                • Orangeone

                  So in your mind what they printed is the truth and Rubio is the Savior

                • steprock

                  No, I simply said he didn’t get to approve the statement. I did not validate its veracity.

                  Look, I’m not doing this anymore. You are incorrect. I offer as proof the fact that I have a BA in Comm, specializing in PR and Media and 12 years experience. I further offer proof numerous TIME covers that are not flattering to their subjects.

                  Take it or leave it, but if you dislike Rubio have a reason. He doesn’t get to approve what is written about him. Sorry, you are incorrect. Sincere, but incorrect.

                • Orangeone

                  I have clearly outlined my reasons to oppose Rubio on many threads. I don’t like a liar.

                • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

                  Don’t worry you’re not alone. Orangeone has a habit of making claims and refusing to back them up.

        • Orangeone

          And if Marco didn’t approve the cover his tweet should say, TIME magazine printed this cover without my permission. Funny, he didn’t say that did he?

          • steprock

            No, it’s not funny at all. No one ever gets to approve them. It goes without saying.

      • Amy

        Michelle Bachmann and Newsweek… You really think she approved of that cover shot with the crazy eyes cuz I don’t…??? I’m still trying to make my way through the actual article written in Time about Rubio, but to say that Rubio HAD to approve that shot & cover just isn’t the case. They can do whatever they like – and Time Life has a long history of doing just that (along with US Weekly, Newsweek, People, National Geographic, etc). I’m old and I remember several questionable magazine cover throughout the years.

        • Orangeone

          I actually wouldn’t doubt that someone on Bachmann’s staff approved it. I’m pretty darn old too but I never remember a famous person suing TIME for what they put on their cover, ever.

          • steprock

            At some point, a mature person would admit their error.

            ‘Time’ Sued Over Pics Photographer claims his photos were used without permission
            http://www.adweek.com/news/press/time-sued-over-pics-131463

            Ariel Sharon sued Time magazine for libel in American and Israeli courts in a $50 million libel suit, after Time published a story in its 21 February 1983
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

            In May 1991, Time magazine published a cover story on Scientology.[6] The Church responded by suing Time for $400 million
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_the_legal_system

            • Orangeone

              And those are legitimate lawsuits and they challenged what they disagreed with. Where did Marco Rubio ever say the cover and the headline were printed without his permission? He didn’t and by not saying it he is agreeing that he did consent. He’s pandering, all part of his little plan with the latest of RINOs in the Bush family. Remember, Obama claims to be a Christian, despite Jeremiah Wright.

              Some folks with a BA should realize they have been duped by a public education system. I have many more degrees on my walls with initials much higher than a BA. I’ve also presented and won cases in our federal courts.

              • steprock

                ‘grats!

                BTW, I’m a home school and private school grad. That is libel against me.

                • Orangeone

                  Maybe you should have a chat with your parents. And it is not libel if it is true!

          • Amy

            Okay – I won’t point out that famous people are public figures and have very little grounds with which to sue… I think you’re on the stubborn side because you don’t like Rubio – fine. However, think about the enourmous amount of disrespect shown to Palin, Bachmann and just conservative women in general. More than one magazine cover has been disrespectful and questionable in taste. There’s no way they okay’d those covers or stories.

            I’ll leave this conversation with one thought: If suing over bad pictures or outrageous articles or even books was an easy, slam dunk thing to do, then Sarah Palin – more than any other conservative woman out there – would have pages upon pages of evidence to present. Just see The Daily Beast/Andrew Sullivan for some of that evidence…

            • Orangeone

              If Bachmann and Palin were upset and what was printed was untrue they should have sued. But the issue is not the ugly picture, it is the wording. And Rubio has not said he didn’t approve it. He was clearly interviewed for the article. He is a politician taught well by the Bush family and some of us are on to him, others are ignoring the blatant facts. The younger generations will be blessed with the cost of Rubio’s illegal alien amnesty they vote for and will need to be held responsible for those choices.

      • sjmom

        Doubt that; don’t like Rubio but TIME is liberal and does what it wants.

        • Orangeone

          I’ll tweet Rubio and see how he responds. I’d bet there is something in the agreement he signed for the interview.

      • KittyAmerica

        He knew.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    I’m not thrilled with Rubio, but I am glad he responded the way he did. Good for him.

    • TENCOLE

      How else do you expect him to react?
      He knew this article was coming out…..what did you expect him to say….Yes, yes I am the savior?

      2016 is starting already and we need to stop it in it’s tracks.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        I agree with with you about them trying to pick for us, but I still appreciate what his reply was here. Trust me, I’m not letting anyone pick my candidate for me.

        • Conservative_Hippie

          AbC, I disagree that they are trying to pick for us. They are just being provocatively stupid, as Time’s usually is.

          • Orangeone

            I agree with ABinC, they are picking him as is John the bonehead Boehner by giving him the SOTU response. Marco is also peddling Boehner’s amnesty

            • LadyMacKeltar

              I had the same impression back in November, after the elections, when it was announced Sen. Rubio would headline the annual Branstad birthday fundraiser in Iowa. A gathering that attracts hundreds of Republicans. It all starts in Iowa…

              • Orangeone

                What I find interesting is that John Boehner chose a Senator to respond. Is that normal?

                • LadyMacKeltar

                  I can’t say for sure. Both, Speaker Boehner and Senator McConnell announced the selection. It sounds like a combined effort to make Senator Rubio the first Hispanic to give the GOP response to SOTU

                • Orangeone

                  Thanks! GOP plays the race card…..again.

            • Conservative_Hippie

              I think Marco’s plan is his own. It’s certainly not Boehner’s…if he even has a plan. At any rate, I don’t think Rubio’s plan is true Amnesty. I’m not saying I love love love Rubio’s plan, but it’s a start. I still think we need to secure the borders first.

        • steprock

          Hey, are you gonna be able to vote in 4, Ducky?

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            I sure as heck hope so stepfriend. It all depends on whether I can get my fees paid and citizenship application accepted in time. I’ll be putting the application in hopefully in a couple of months. Keep me in prayers because I SO want to become a citizen!!!!

      • Conservative_Hippie

        I guarantee you most would not have responded with “#Jesus”. It was a honest response to a stupid Time’s cover. Good for him!

      • Orangeone

        Just saw your post and agree! Rubio had to approve of that cover before it was published. He looks like a boy being fitted for a man’s suit, uncomfortable in his own skin.

      • 3seven77

        Yes, Rubio knew the article was coming out. But did Time ask for his approval? I’d bet a paycheck (if I had one) that they absolutely did not. The press doesn’t ask permission and they don’t ask for approval. Obama is the only one who gets that courtesy.

  • TENCOLE

    I think I’m going to be sick.

    Everyone else picking our candidates but us….again.
    This stops here…..it stops now.

    • daeghrefn

      Yep. This will be as effective as the “Romney’s the ONLY one!!!” strategy. It got their guy the nomination, who then went on to lost to the most beatable Dem incumbent in generations.

    • MissMyGuy

      We can only pick from the list of people who run. So who is your pick? Who would you like to see out there?

    • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

      There were better candidates than Romney last time around. We still voted him as our guy. Don’t blame the media or the establishment. In the end its up to the people.

      • sDee

        I agree with you that citizens do not get involved in the candidate “feeder system”. This has to start at state and local level. By the time the primary comes around, the Party has chosen its candidates – most certainly the Presidential candidate.

        That said, the Republican Party primary system for the national election is setup up to be manipulated by the Party. By South Carolina the candidate is chosen and the rest of us can pound sand. In addition the Republican party rigs the convention rules like they did this year.

        So we can participate all we want and the Party remains the party of big government.

        • 3seven77

          Ann Coulter disagrees. She was on with Lars Larson last night and she was wailing about the “extended primary” process again. Apparently, we “little people” keep screwing up the process. According to Queen Ann of Blowhard, a primary process like the one that resulted in Ted Cruz is disastrous. Queen Ann believes that the party needs to pick the candidates and we peasants all just need to shut up and fall in line.

          I really like Lars Larson, but why he has guests like Ann Coulter and Juan Williams on his radio show is just beyond me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.bury.52 Alex Bury

    Reading the comments no wonder we lost. You guys are just so willing to betray and abandon people. At least with democrats no matter how horrible they get they at least protect their own. Besides it’s Time, they’re going out of business anyway so who cares? Remember this is the same magazine that’s lamenting that the pro-life movement is stronger than ever.

    • Jay Velez

      THANK YOU!! One disagreement in a policy issue and it’s over for many commenters here. And what will become of Cruz when he aligns with establishment repubs in a key issue? Is it over for him as well? Do we not want Rubio in congress now? Love this site and some people here, but good lord calm down.

      • las1

        There is some truth to what you say, I will admit that, but the Republicans have been taken over by progressives (aka RINOs) for so long it’s frustrating to have to pick out the real from the fake.

        With Dems, I’ll say it again, the only Biblical text they believe in is Mark 3:25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And of course Jesus was referring to Satan. Democrats’ unity is the unity of evil.

        So unity for unity’s sake is not an ideal to strive for. There is an existential struggle for the life and spirit of conservatism in the Republican party and the fight better be fought in earnest now rather than later.

        • Jay Velez

          I totally understand that believe me. But I think we need to stop with the “break one of our conservative demands and you are a RINO” nonsense. It’s one thing to politically criticize Agent Orange to silence conservatives voices and votes, it’s another to drop Rubio off some perceived “Reagan list” because of a disagreement with one issue. It’s sad to say it and believe me I am not “concern trolling” anyone here, but libs are somewhat correct when they say we wouldnt even accept Reagan in todays age. That’s all that gets me.

          • las1

            “break one of our conservative demands and you are a RINO” nonsense.”

            I can’t disagree at all, and also what you say about Reagan.

            So as I see it… there are two issues. Hypersensitive nitpicking on the legitimate and arguable details of “conservative” issues contrasted with putative conservatives who turn out later on to be something other than truly conservative. And like a Chris Christie, it’s best to identify them quick. He’s an example of a one trick conservative pony.. and that was him dealing with teachers unions.

            It’ can’t really hurt to be vigilant… but it really hurts bad to have this vigilance exploited and demagogued by the liberal media. So I don’t know exactly what the answer should be.

            • Jay Velez

              Can’t disagree with that statement either.

            • JRD1

              Christy was NOT the conservative in the Governor’s race in New Jersey. He was the moderate. Conservatives voted for Steve Lonegan.

              Christy is not a one trick conservative pony. The gopE lied after he won the primary and people believed their spin. Christy always was a moderate.

              That’s why it is important to know the truth.

              Rubio ran as a conservative. He promised us he would not go to DC and become part of the problem. Those are his words.

              • las1

                Good points! You illustrate why conservatives are in a constant shell game trying to figure out under which shell the real conservative is hiding.

          • Orangeone

            I didn’t accept Reagan when he ran either. I hold the same views today as I did then. You reward illegal aliens by giving them amnesty and more illegals will come. Guess what, Reagan’s 3 million is now 11-20 million, the border is not secure, border enforcement has been ordered to stand down, Americans are being murdered by illegals, drugs are flowing in faster than water, we have severe national security threats from illegals, illegals are jeopardizing our states’ financial conditions and I could go on.

            That is not a single issue, that is a culmination of many, most importantly violation of our Constitution and federal law. If Marco doesn’t want this upheld, what else does he want to ignore, killing of Americans by drone???? Drug legalization????

          • steprock

            Yeah, people were flaming Trey Gowdy yesterday over policy disagreements, calling him a RINO.

      • JRD1

        Cruz isn’t going to change his mind on this issue.

        You want wishy washy, that’s your right. However, those of us who want conservative have that right also.

        Rubio campaigned on this issue when he ran. The grassroots supported him over the establishment candidate. Then suddenly Orange Charlie dissed GWB and Rubio was the establishment’s darling and a turncoat.

        Know the facts. He is not on your side.
        http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/2006/11/crist_in_karl_r.html

        • Orangeone

          Thank you! Rubio lied to the voters as many did before him and will do after him. That is one thing I do credit Reagan for, at least he was honest in the debates about his position on illegal alien amnesty so the voters were informed BEFORE they pulled the lever.

      • Amjean

        I don’t think most of the posters here need to “calm down”. From what I
        have read they make decisions on whom to support based on a candidate’s record and conservative principles, not racial bias. And certainly not on the repub’s action to throw out a spanish speaking republican out there
        to try and siphon off some hispanic voters. Many of us realize that the repub organization is run by leftie-light rinos. Therefore, we are suspicious of a politician who was backed by the tea party as a conservative and is now buddy, buddy with the rino faction of the party.
        Makes us wonder. Many people were high on him, however, some of his recent actions have lowered his approval ratings, if you will, from conservatives.

    • JRD1

      Look if I wanted Rubio to change his mind on this issue I would have voted for Orange Charlie.

      Actions have consequences. He is a career opportunist who doesn’t care about anybody but Marco Rubio.

      We don’t want him here in Florida so if you want him to represent you do something about recruiting him to run in your state.

      We are organized. We have been motivated to dump him since he sold out at first asking.

      2016 is a presidential election year. The Democrats will be motivated to come out and vote against him. He won’t have the luxury of the midterms.

      His endorsement doesn’t mean anything here. He couldn’t even sell the Cubans in south Florida who are loyal conservative voters to vote for Etch-a-sketch.

      Yeah, facts are pesky little stubborn things.

      And, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative there is a big difference.

    • JoeMontana16

      I think it was him that abandoned people. Yes its one issue but its a huge one is it not?? If you’re a conservative why wouldn’t you stick to conservative principles? If you’ll give up one issue what else?

      Holding your elected officials accountable is a noble thing. That’s what the commenters are saying here.

      • Jay Velez

        I have no problem with officials being held accountable. I’m one yelling to get rid of Bohener and Cantor because how low “change in Washington” is on their priority list. I also don’t agree much with Rubio’s plan, but he is throwing himself out there to be clowned from the right and the left. I respect that more than the “young guns” in DC. I think it’s very easy to separate the wheat from the chaff with Christie, Bohener and many others. But I am concerned with the strict adherence to the Reagan list that I believe in todays age in Washington, not even Reagan himself could adhere to.

        • Orangeone

          I don’t see anyone on this site using the “Reagan list” as you refer to it. We are conservatives who believe in upholding our Constitution, our laws and enforcing those laws.

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.bury.52 Alex Bury

        What I see he is doing with the immigration is a sort of preemptive strike plan. You know, get obama on the defense.

      • Orangeone

        Thanks Joe! See my post above or below where I outline my thoughts that illegal alien amnesty is much more than one issue :)

    • http://twitter.com/SheerPolitics Sheer Politics

      No…we can just see that Rubio is the GOP establishment’s golden boy now. Romney dropped out of the 2008 race because it was “McCain’s turn” and he was assured by doing so he’d get their support next time.

      Since Reagan we’ve only had slew of moderate candidates. Just look up the electorate state maps since Reagan left office. The country came more and more divided and we lost more states since we stopped fielding a true conservative.

      They’ve stopped the states in the south from voting early in the primary because want to make sure their guy is the only one left by the time it gets to states like Texas. Texas was supposed to vote in March last time. Then a judge magically said there was a problem with the redistricting in 3 counties. They stopped Texas from voting in the primaries until June! By that time Cain, Newt and Santorum were gone, any of which I think would have done well.

      • LadyMacKeltar

        They’ve stopped the states in the south from voting early in the primary because want to make sure their guy is the only one left by the time it gets to states like Texas.

        I agree. When we got to our primaries in NC on May 8th, the only two candidates still in the running were Gov. Romney and Dr. Paul. Our ballots in NC still listed Rick Santorum, he pulled out too late to change the ballot. Some may call it a wasted vote but we still voted our conscience and cast our ballots for Rick Santorum. He ended up getting 10% of the vote.

      • http://www.facebook.com/alex.bury.52 Alex Bury

        Um, they didn’t stop me from voting in the primaries. And they usually last one day. And that’s like, your opinion man. :)

    • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

      Oh my goodness yes! It’s fine that conservatives disagree with points in Rubio’s bill but I find that too many of us are 1) being dishonest about what he actually has proposed and 2) holding him responsible for the failures of the executive branch. Some people here have said its just blanket amnesty and they claim Rubio is clearly a RINO because of it. That is not what he has proposed. Not even close. If the feds use it as an excuse to grant blanket amnesty then they will be breaking the law and it’s on them. Obama has illegally granted amnesty before and he didn’t even use the cover of an immigration bill. All Rubio can do is make sure we have good laws on the books.

      • sDee

        It is not only Rubio’s proposal. All or any proposals that do not require application for a visa/permit as prescribed by current law, are amnesty. The logic is simple.

        – Visa and permits are always obtained outside the country being visited – otherwise all established immigration would fall into chaos. This principle is simple, and it is why people leave the US to get a new/different visa or extend one.

        – Any foreign citizen on US soil who entered without a visa/permit, or anyone on US soil who has overstayed their visa, has violated Federal law. Their very existence within the borders, is prima-facie evidence of the violation of several laws.

        – Applying for a visa or permit while here illegally would not be permitted under current law. So that leaves two options:

        1) Return to one’s home nation and apply for a Visa/Permit at the US Embassy.

        2) The US government gives the foreign citizen amnesty for their violations of Federal Law, and, grant them a special exemption to apply for a visa within the borders.

        All “immigration reform” in the end boils down to #2 because #1 is business as usual.

        • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

          Ah trolling me again sDee :)

          Notice I specified that it is not BLANKET amnesty like many conservatives are claiming. I understand that it is in fact limited provisional amnesty. Let’s read things a little more carefully.

  • JoeMontana16

    The immigration thing really made me very disappointed in him. Its a huge issue for me so I have no use for him. Good answer though or maybe just that good of a politician.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      I disagree that he is being a politician in his response. A politicall correct response would not have mention “#Jesus”. No, he spoke from his heart! Which is why I like the guy. I’m so sick of the political games of the Obama administration. It’s nice to finally hear someone speak from their heart!

  • las1

    Man! With such a front page headline, could the Democrat Media Complex be any more transparent in their projection. They’ve become a caricature of themselves and they have not the foggiest clue. Such utter dunces!

  • Rocco11

    I agree with Rubio, no he’s not.

  • BeyondPolls

    Rubio <33333

  • patriot59201

    TIME has done so much Messiah-ism for Obama they thought they’d do it again. I appreciate that, unlike Obama’s love of it, Rubio immediately sets the record straight here.
    Maybe there’s a little bit of humility on Rubio’s part in that heart of his. That goes a long way in a leader. But must be trend to really know.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      I agree humilty is an important trait of a true godly leader!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    Time magazine is trying to sabotage Rubio…but I think he has done a good job of that himself.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      100% agree! Well said!

    • marketcomp

      That’s interesting when you self destruct! Saves us the agony.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    It seems to me that people are getting cauight up in the “Cover” and are missing the point of this post which I believe is that Rubio responded well. Please stop judging Rubio based on a stupid and insulting Time’s cover that he is not responsible for!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KYTC7EGQASGOTQYPY2KPC4XCZY Don

    Time Magazine is a bankrupt propaganda machine owned by the anti-American movement controlled by The One. Anyone who would believe a word they regurgitate, at the direction of their master, is beyond hope and as relevant as an ant on an elephant’s posterior. Just one of the mainstream media prostitutes whose existence is just a matter of time before passing into obscurity.

  • Rocco11

    The Left is “all Alinsky, all the time” these days. RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) Look what they’re doing to Krispy Kreme Christie…

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Excellent point!

    • PhillyCon

      I wish the GOP betters understood this concept along with a hostile “media.”

      • daeghrefn

        Oh, they understand the concept very well. They practice it.

  • http://twitter.com/MrLTavern Mr.L

    Haven’t we learned anything? when the liberal media calls anyone on our side a savior, we should run not walk away from that person.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      You’re giving “Time” too much power. Be informed yourself, don’t let “Time” do it for you!

      • DeeDEEthree

        I’m certain MR.L is more informed than anyone.

        I am certain and I know Mr.L would probably agree that Rubio is a RINO and a BUSH PUPPET.

  • kssturgis62

    He responded Correctly, but I have seen many who have responded Correctly and still stab the Lord in the Back.

    Marco knows who the Savior is, but so do many politicians. they Invoke the Word of the Lord at all times to say see this is what I am and believe.

    I have seen many over the years use the Lord’s word to make a point. Over the Last 4 years I have seen many on both sides Mocking God, taking his word out of Context and using it to push Social Justice which the Lord Jesus Christ never Advocated for.

    Rubio gave the Correct response, in that I can respect him. But at the same time he is willing to REWARD law breakers. If he truly believes in Jesus Christ as His personal Savior, then he knows the word of the Lord.

    The Lord states we are to follow the Law. Law breakers are Sinners and are not rewarded. marco rubio falls under the “Social Justice” guidelines for this. I don’t trust him, and one right answer doesn’t mean this is his daily life, and that he follows Christ Teachings.

    If Jesus Christ is truly his Savior, where is his Voice on ‘Speaking out over and over again on the Religious implications of Obamacare, and the dismantling of the 1st Amendment.

    Rubio will be praised for this, and he likes being praised, and being told how good he is.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      “Rubio will be praised for this, and he likes being praised, and being told how good he is. ”

      How dare you make an accusation like this! Do you have any proof to back up this outrageous statement! BTW, I’ve yet to hear the biggest politician of them all, Obama, say that Jesus is the only Saviour!

      • kssturgis62

        How dare I?

        Yes I dare say it and I will say it again. RUBIO WILL BE PRAISED FOR THIS AND HE LIKES BEING TOLD HOW GOOD HE IS>

        How Dare I have my own Opinion that doesn’t agree with you.

        Your never going to hear Obama say Jesus is Lord and Savior, you will hear others tell you that Obama is Lord and Savior.

        before you come after me and what I stated, I suggest you re read what I wrote and understand why I wrote it.

        • Conservative_Hippie

          I still disgaree with your statement that “Rubio will be praised for this, and he likes being praised, and being told how good he is.” I’ve yet to hear you give me proof! And please don’t put words in my mouth! I never said, “How dare you have you’re opinion”.

          Again please state your hard proof, that “Rubio will be praised for this, and he likes being praised, and being told how good he is”. Then we can talk!

          • kssturgis62

            Don’t question me then with HOW DARE I – Because I do dare, and I will always dare. You have to remember one thing this is typing, Don’t take it so personal. I took it personal because of how you phrased it.

            Hard Proof that Rubio will be praised for this SOTU response, Are you serious? You do NOT see the Accolades that are being sung by everyone already over this. You do not hear how people are all Touting his name the MSM including everyone on talk radio how great and wonderful he is. Don’t you hear it. I don’t have to prove anything to you, again you have blinders on if you haven’t heard How everyone is praising this guy. To prove he Loves hearing the praise, all you have to do is look and listen to the guy. That one hour Show Hannity did with him and his wife, oh he comes off so modest, but he loves the praise. Normally people love it when they are praised. Rubio is now filling his head with the headlines. The problem is it is backfiring big time.

            You love rubio. Fine that is for you. Good, but your ignoring many aspects about the man.

            When Ever the MSM including people at Fox News start Shoving a guy in your face and saying he is the “IT” MAN Warning signs with Sirens Dinging go off in my head. That is Dangerous Territory Will robinson as the robot used to say in Lost in Space.

            According to a report by Bloomberg Businessweek, during a fundraising breakfast at the 2012 Republican National Convention, Rubio spoke along with Rove in front of “70 of the Republican Party’s most influential donors.” Helping Crossroads make their sales pitch, Rubio said it was “big news” when “Karl Rove sent me a check” during his Senate race. Rubio specifically praised Crossroads GPS for running ads to support him and told donors that giving to groups like Rove’s was “a patriotic endeavor”:

            “That’s where Crossroads GPS was helpful,” he continued, referring to American Crossroads’s sister 501(c)(4) nonprofit “social welfare” organization, which may receive unlimited personal and corporate contributions from anonymous donors. “Obviously, for legal reasons, we never knew they were doing this, but you would turn on the TV and there were ads that created a clear distinction, and did so in ways that were meaningful.” Rubio added: “What I’ve been pleasantly blown away by is this organization’s ability to both pick the right message and pick the right place to deliver that message.”

            “The by-product effect to all of this is very real,” Rubio continued. “The press will try to shame you. You read all these articles–it makes it sound as if this is some sort of, you know, dirty endeavor, or wrongful thing to do. This is a patriotic endeavor.”

            Rubio closed with a joke: “Did I break any laws, in that speech?” he asked, to applause.

            http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-04/exclusive-how-karl-roves-super-pac-plays-the-senate

            • kssturgis62

              OH the Liar Rubio is. Listen for yourself. But yet He gutted 31 Immigration bills in Florida and stopped Voter ID in the Senate in Florida. He took Illegal Campaign contributions, He lied about using the credit Card, the man has no character.

              No. Never have been. I am strongly against amnesty. The most important thing we need to do is enforce our existing laws. We have existing immigration laws that are not being adequately enforced. Nothing will make it harder to enforce the existing laws, if you reward people who broke them.

              It demoralizes people who are going through the legal process, its a very clear signal of why go through the legal process, if you can accomplish the same thing if you go through the illegal process. And number two, if demoralizes the people enforcing the laws. I am not, and I will never support any effort to grant blanket legalization/amnesty to folks who have entered, stayed in this country illegally. – Marco Rubio, March 2009

            • Conservative_Hippie

              Again you are putting words in my mouth. I am not taking issue with your statement, “Rubio will be praised for this SOTU response,” Of course he will be praised for the SOTU response and why shouldn’t he, he did a good job!

              I am taking issue with your statement at the end of that sentence, “…and he likes being praised, and being told how good he is.” How do you know he “likes being praised and being told how good he is”? You are basically calling the guy a narcissist? If you are going to make accusations like that of someone’s character you should be able to back it up with hard proof!

              • kssturgis62

                You are really nitpicking over this aren’t you? this really bothers you that I said he likes to be praised. Why? I would really like to know why that gets so bad under your skin.

                Please tell me what character this man has. Because I didn’t think Liars, and Thieves, had character.

                • Conservative_Hippie

                  Ugh! I was simply pointing out that when you make an accusation that involves something that is so deep to someone’s conscience that only they and God would know. I think that is an unfair attack. Plus ks, we have all lied and stolen something in our lives have we not?! No one can stand before God blameless.

                • kssturgis62

                  no we havent’ all lied and stolen something. When i was a child before i knew how wrong it was to lie, doesn’t count. I never STOLE AS A CHILD. When i reached the Age I accepted Christ and figured out about Honoring my Mother and Father, and how important it was to have a CHARACTER that people knew was worth something.

                  If you as an adult have lied and Stolen, then give him the excuses you want to give him. But I don’t LIE AS AN ADULT, and I DON”T STEAL AS AN ADULT, and I didn’t do it when i was a Teenager. I was taught how to honor myself, Value myself, Put others before myself, and Not Sell out for the Quickest scheme to make something of myself.

                  Maybe that is why I have a Different Perspective. now I can see why people vote the way they do. they are willing to put in office the people they do and make excuses, because after all they WANT TO BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE DONE IT> SHAMEFUL, Because after all they are no better than we are. That is SHAMEFUL. In this day and age you have proven not to have high ideals for anyone to uphold. what does that say about you.

                • Conservative_Hippie

                  You have never in your life lied (the smalest tiniest fib counts) or stolen (can be as small as a paperclip)? Well than you are a better man than I am. We do share one thing in common, we have both accepted Christ!

                • kssturgis62

                  No I don’t lie. When I did I didn’t have Christ. I lied as a Child. I have never Stolen ANYTHING IN MY LIFE. I am also a WOMAN. I am not a MAN.

                • Conservative_Hippie

                  sorry, than you are a better person than I am.

    • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

      The Lord is also a big fan of mercy and grace.

      There is an unhealthly amount of unsupported speculation in your comment.

      If you’re prepared to disagree with Rubio’s plan and slam him for it then let’s hear you offer a better alternative.

      • sDee

        When the politicians lie and deceive….When the press and pundits are paid to not expose the truth. We are left only to speculate and to draw conclusions the best we can from patterns of behavior.

        Rubio has manipulated and deceived. I remember first hand. I robo-called and donated to his run for senator. He stands for nothing now, that he ran on. He is a typical dishonest politician. He would not have gotten to where he is otherwise. Had he stood for principles and truth he would have ended up like Allen West. Instead he chose to stand by in silence while his own Florida political machine destroyed a great man.

        • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

          Evidence?

          • sDee

            I was on at least two campaign worker calls where Rubio promised he would never support amnesty.

            Now he leads the elephant charge on amnesty. Lie. Deception. Now or then.
            ——————————-
            The Republican party redistricted West from a guaranteed-win district to one the was 60% democrat.

            Not a peep from Rubio. He could have stood by West and stopped it with a phone call.

            ——————
            West’s election had 140% turnout, a number of document ed improprieties and violations of election law by the county supervisor and poll workers.

            Not a Party lawyer in sight. Not a peep from Rubio.

            ——————————————-
            West’s election could have easily been contested based on the 140% turnout, alone. The Party went a runnin’ and not a peep from Rubio.

          • kssturgis62

            So your being Speculative. The Lord is a Big Fan of Mercy and Grace. By His Grace I am a born again Sinner. Notice I said Sinner. because that is what I am. I am not perfect.

            But I dont’ manipulate, and Deceive on purpose to make a point. Many have Called out Jesus’s names and Lied. they have Used the Lord’s word and Deceived, and Many because of those people are being led straight to hell.

            I am a Christian, Saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. He is my Savior. But I don’t pansy foot around, and Neither did my Lord. Jesus told it the way it was, he even rebuked his own mother.

            I love the sinner, and I hate the Sin. Well if you hate the Sin, you call them out on it, and you tell them What Christ stood for.

            I can Respect Marco for that tweet, but I don’t respect him as a man, because he chooses the Social Justice way of Jesus Teachings which is deceitful and it is Lying, he is a Sheep in Wolves Clothing, ready to lead you astray.

            Jesus Taught us to Obey the Law. Jesus did not teach us it was okay to break the law and be rewarded.

            If he taught us to break the law and be rewarded, Why did he die on that cross? So you could be rewarded for not accepting him, So you could still be the same you were before you accepted him, so you could receive the Reward of his Mercy and Grace but be a deceitful lying Sinner.

            I think I have explained myself well. I have never conversed with you before, I will probably see you here again, I am here a lot.

            • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

              Where is the evidence that Rubio is anything but a genuine Christian? Where is the evidence that he is a liar and a deceiver? You are so quick to think enormous evil of him with little to no evidence.

              I have no problem with people disagreeing with Rubio’s bill. Those are the discussions I want to have. I really don’t like the unfounded character assassination some conservatives are doling out. I can’t respect that.

              • sDee

                Candidate Rubio promised no Amnesty. Senator Rubio champions Amnesty.

                One of them deceives.

              • kssturgis62

                Again Like I said you and I have never conversed on here. You are really quick to attack people who don’t agree with those you put Saint Hood on.

                I never said anything about his Christianity, I said about his choice of Christianity. i was born and Raised Catholic, I am now a follower of the baptist Religion. i know what is taught in Catholicism.

                If you can’t tell that he goes against what God teaches, because he falls in line with the Social Justice side, then you don’t know the Word of the Lord. I explained myself perfectly in my statements. You either Chose not TO READ what I am saying or YOUR IMPLYING THINGS that are NOT THERE.

                By the Way I don’t have to Character Assassinate Rubio, he did that to himself. You Choose not to look at his record, what he has lied about, and what he has been busted doing and admitted to.

                He can be your golden Boy, but he will not be mine. By the Way if your a Conservative, why do I or anyone else have to do your homework for you to show you what he has done. If you have been on this site before you chose to ignore posts that have to do with WHAT RUBIO has LIED and DECEIVED ABOUT.

      • kssturgis62

        I have given my alternative, and you weren’t here to hear it. You see I am going through an IMMIGRATION LEGAL BATTLE myself.

        I will slam him for it, because he is a liar, I have provided all the proof I need. You need to understand that the Lord is a Big Fan of mercy and Grace, but no mercy and grace when your a Liar.

  • Tiffini

    I don’t know, I like that he tweeted what he did, but right now I think its too soon to judge who will make the best leader after this disgrace of an admin is over. I think we need to focus on who we have running against those senators/congressman that deserve to loose their job for so many reasons.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Agreed.

    • MadAsHellJack

      Let’s say the republicans take over the Senate and the House in 2014. Will they bring Impeachment charges against Obama. Will they bring charges against former democRat senators and reps that did not uphold their Oath to the Constitution?? Will they DRILL, DRILL, DRILL? Will they cut off foreign aid to our enemies?? Will they stop Iran? Will they once again make our Military the mightiest in th world? Will they try Al Gore for treason and so on and so on? To me this will be the true test of the republican party if they regain power.

      • Amjean

        When repubs took over the house, what did THEY do? Therein lies your answer and it is not good.

  • Nukeman60

    I’m certainly glad Rubio responded as he did. That will irritate not only the LameStream (who he really doesn’t want to side with in his presidential run), but also the liberal base who detest any reference to Jesus. It’s kind of like throwing Holy water at them. Sizzle.

    What does bother me, though, is once again the liberal media is trying to tell us who we should promote and who we should ignore. They are not the go-to source of knowledge when it comes to our politics.

    Hasn’t anyone else wanted to buy this piece of crap news rag? Is $1 just too much for the rights? Perhaps, it can be sold for 2 bits. I could give them my 2-cents worth.

  • justrighton

    Here they go again telling us who we are suppose to endorse… NOT ME!

  • PhillyCon

    Problem with Leftism… they only believe in the here and now, plus what they “see.” So, appointing fallible humans as “god” is not that surprising for this bunch.

    Remember, a key tenet of Marxism was to replace religion with the state.

  • MadAsHellJack

    Well anytime anyone on the Right is supported by anything or anyone on the Left ALARM BELLS SOUND IN MY HEAD! People keep saying the new right wing leader is going to be Ted Cruz. Well let’s see if he caves like every other republican before 2016.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    I need to get off this thread. I’m getting overheated and angry by some of the posters here who immediately want to throw Rubio under the bus, because of a dumb Time’s cover. I aplogoize if I offended anyone.

  • c4pfan

    Time Mag is still around?

    • marketcomp

      The National Enquire should put Hillary Clinton on the cover and say the next Great Progressive President!

  • DavidRobertson

    While I’m not sure what exactly Rubio is trying to accomplish with immigration reform, it is hard to argue that he is not a conservative. This man has great potential to advance the conservative cause. I’m sure that even Ted Cruz will reveal at some point an issue that you might not agree with. There is no purity in politics. However, Having someone like Rubio be the follow up Republican President since Bush would be a strong move of the party to the conservative side.

    I personally want our border secured and the drug cartels expelled from our country. I know that many Republicans want the same thing. I’m waiting for one of them to stand up and define what “secured” means so that we can all get on the same page. They have a definition problem. They say they want it secured, then Obama says “we have. We have more troops than before and less border crossing. Therefore, it is secure.” The American people need to understand what “secure” means, or the Dems win the argument, and then there is only a picture of an intolerant Republican party that the media is ever so happy to paint for their viewers.

    My point is that Rubio is one of the greatest communicators Republicans have today. The man knows how to argue his point and touch Americans with his words. This is sorely lacking for the GOP, and he could really help the conservative cause within the GOP because of his ability to communicate conservative values. I’m waiting for him to get very defined on security, and I am waiting to see how he will vote on any proposed legislation around immigration. He said he won’t vote for it if security doesn’t come first. We’ll see.

    • c4pfan

      Yeah, the American people are more concerned about the budget and I don’t see him talking zilch about it.

    • sDee

      It is principles we need not purity. The Party has none. Rubio has none- he goes out and says what he is told.

      Being a Progressive this country builds on 100 years of core marxist principles to which the Democrats never waiver. We have to start by defining our principles or being a “conservative” is shifting sand.

      Political compromise, as you say is always needed, butthey need to be tactical sacrifice toward a strategic goal. The Party has no strategy so, with no strategy or principles, they make strategically fatal compromises to the Leftists who have their chess game laid out 20 moves in advance.

      Rubio is a smooth talking, well coiffed checkers player in a fitted suit.

    • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

      Rubio communicates just as well as Romney did. (Romney was actually quite good at communicating.) The problem is, if you don’t bother to understand the philosophy embodied in the framing of the Constitution (by going back and reading the sources), then you cannot sell people on what good it is being a conservative. Romney proved that, big time.

      He had the best d*mn campaign I’ve seen in my lifetime. Excellent press management; massively attended, enthusiastic rallies; incredibly quick response time by way of ads and speeches responding to the lies of the left; and a very well-managed series of appearances and debate performances.

      But he lost, because he decided not to be aggressive, and decided that he was NOT going to explain why the Constitution is why America became so prosperous, nor why Capitalism is the best system in the world. He refused that task.

      So far, Rubio is going down that same, pointless road. It’s not too late to change, but I’d bet money he will, just as Romney did, REFUSE the task. He will try to sneak conservative “values” into the statist system we have, and it simply will not work.

      • sDee

        Spot on target summary. A is your point below that we’ve no choice now but to hold this last line. That K-Bob, is why my gut tells me theses elephants have given up and are all just awaitin’ their piece of the new order pie.

        I would like to say that I think…. “He will pretend to sneak conservative “values” into the statist system”

  • steprock

    YIKES! If TIME likes you, it’s not a good thing.

    At least Rubio is quick to put the focus where it belongs. Good on ya.

  • Orangeone

    New poll released by Katie Pavlich (Fast and Furious author) Majority of Americans Want Illegal Immigrants to Head Back to Home Countries (and that opinion is very strong opinion)

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/02/07/new-poll-majority-of-americans-want-illegal-immigrants-to-head-back-to-home-countries-n1506936

  • Conniption Fitz

    Ted Cruz is the real voice of Conservatives, along with Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich.

    Rubio is the voice of the Bushites: Romney, Coulter, Christie, et al, who are the establishment elite political class and closet socialists or for whatever is expedient and keeps their profits coming.

    • Conniption Fitz

      HOWEVER – that was a great answer – Jesus is Lord and Christ, Messiah, Savior, God – and can’t be de-throned, even by a trillion Islamists, gay-activists, globalists, radical environmentalists, or anyone, ever.

    • MissMyGuy

      And Newt cant be counted on from one day to the next in what he says. So that leaves us with a very small field.

  • marketcomp

    Yes, I love this!Time magazine picking our candidate and setting us up to fail. What an awesome headfake!

  • Sober_Thinking

    Good response Marco. I like Rubio… but I’m concerned about some of the things he’s said and stands for and of course how the establishment doesn’t seem too put off by him (as opposed to say, Allen West). I don’t want a sensible guy like Rubio to be engulfed by the corruption or to let Boehner and the other monsters attach marionette strings to him (some would argue they already have). I hope he’s a stand up guy who is for real… that being said:

    VERY creepy that TIME Magazine… a rag of the left would do this. Seems like the machine is already beginning. Bill Whittle was right… politics is in everything it seems.

    I wonder if The Architect (Rove) is involved in this in some way. It has his fingerprints…

    • DeeDEEthree

      Rubio is a BUSH PUPPET.

  • aposematic

    Like Rubio or not, can’t argue with his tweet.

  • Conniption Fitz

    To nominate Rubio who is not a natural born citizen (his father was not a citizen when he was born) would be to legitimize Obama who has the same lack of Constitutional qualifications.

    Obama is not and never can be a legitimate POTUS.

    • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

      Um I’m not exactly worried about “legitimizing Obama.” He’s already got his second term and the birther movement is dead. No one cares.

      • sDee

        Ah.. marginalize the commenter as a “birther”. Marginalize anyone who brings up an issue you cannot address – that is where the term “birther” came from”. The left.

        Jus sanguinis and jus soli, are two very different cornerstones of all sovereign citizenship rights going back to ancient Greece. These concepts have never changed. Neither Obama nor Rubio meet the definition of jus sanguinis by thier own admission.

        Yep “who cares” now that our government conspired to violate the US Constitutions and set a dangerous precedent that will lead to usurpation of the Executive branch. “Move on”. Rubio’s a cool dude ya know.

        • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

          Alright, that’s it. sDee I now will ignore your comments. You are incapable of being honest about what I have written. You incessantly put words in my mouth and set up strawmen. I very obviously did not call anyone a birther. Not even close. You also have a habit of ignoring my points and just switching to a different angle of attack. That’s something someone does when they are wrong but incapable of admitting it. You have lost my respect and I cannot have productive discussions with you. I won’t waste my time.

          • sDee

            Figures. When in the corner take your ball and go home.

          • JRD1

            Um I’m not exactly worried about “legitimizing Obama.” He’s already got his second term and the “birther” movement is dead.

            That’s your comment. Right there in black and white.

            • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

              So who did I call a birther?

              What’s your point?

              • sDee

                Conniption Fitz mentioned Rubio’s natural born citizen disqualification. It is an extremely important issue. You responded directly to it, dismissing it as the “birther” movement”.

                Pretty damn obvious.

              • JRD1

                I can see that you have taken lessons at the Etch-a-sketch school. Spin, spin, spin.

      • JRD1

        Constitutional conservatives were fully aware at the time that the corrupt gopE was allowing the Democrats to do their dirty work for them and set precedent.

        Sorry but you will come to find out that real constitutional conservatives DO care.

        Unlike the corrupt gopE who believe, “Don’t think, we’ll think for you” we are not sheeple and think for ourselves. We DO know right from wrong. And we are not hypocrites. And we are not influenced by talk radio.

        Many conservatives have already stated that they will not vote for Rubio and others for POTUS for this very reason.

        Spin it as much as you like. No one believes you.

        • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

          1) I didn’t address Rubio’s status as a citizen. I was just referring to the commentor’s concerns about “legitimizing Obama.” No one cares as I said before.

          2) The term “natural born citizen” is not defined by the constitution but is most commonly understood as applying to one who has a claim to US citizenship at the time of their birth. Whether or not you like the 14th amendment, it provides that Rubio is a natural born citizen because he was born in Miami. I don’t understand your claim that he isn’t. Unless you have some other definition of natural born citizen or you’ve chosen to ignore the 14th amendment.

          • sDee

            The term “natural born citizen” is not defined by the constitution but is most commonly understood as applying to one who has a claim to US citizenship at the time of their birth. Whether or not you like the 14th amendment, it provides that Rubio is a natural born citizen because he was born in Miami. I don’t understand your claim that he isn’t. Unless you have some other definition of natural born citizen or you’ve chosen to ignore the 14th amendment.

            None of this is true. Just feel good rationalization. All these points have been challenged here many times and you have no counter.

            These are all exactly the same talking points used to defend Obama’s ineligibility. You are good with regurgtating them, you just have nothing to back them up.

            All this is one big ole’ coinky dink. :)

          • JRD1

            Like I stated before, spin it any way you like. Constitutional conservatives already are on the record saying they will not vote for Rubio and others because of this very reason.

            Knock yourself out. It’s your loss and you aren’t convincing anyone. We have all been down this road before.

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          “Spin it as much as you like. No one believes you.”

          Actually, those of us who demand the Constitution be upheld are in a very small minority right now. We may not like where the birther business went, but she’s right. With Obama’s second inauguration, it has officially been mooted, and will now take nothing short of an amendment to fix. A very unlikely scenario.

          So the calls for Rubio and Jindal to step aside due to the Natural Born issue will be laughed at by the majority of people on the right. …Are being laughed at by a majority on the right. That’s a fact we can’t afford to ignore.

          Look how hard they are trying to cram those guys down our throats already. Pointing to the Natural Born issue is useless when the country is being dismantled. We just need to get behind the right people, and fight the Rovian tools at every opportunity.

          It has now all come down to the Second Amendment. We must press their faces into it and say, “This hill, is the one to die for. No more questioning whether it’s the right hill anymore. This hill. Either man up and defend it, or accept the traitor’s end.” That’s where we are. We start from there and move forward.

          • JRD1

            Sorry but we are not in a minority. We did not like Etch-a-sketch, the elites told us he was electable, he got his precious Independents and still lost, why? Because conservatives stayed home. The same conservatives that know we are winning, that the gopE is severely damaged and fighting for their life for control. These same conservatives do not believe the gopE and will not vote for Rubio and others.

            I reside in Lt. Col. Allen West’s former district. The gopE declared WAR and we mean to give it to them.

            • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

              Yes, we are in a minority.

              A) Anyone who actually has read and understands the constitution would never have stayed home on Nov. 6th.

              B) Ergo, the fact that we lost means we are in a minority, because the low-info voters sure as hell don’t understand the Constitution.

              C) The Rove-type, neo-Rockerfeller Republicans don’t give a rat’s ass about the Constitution.

              So we have to face facts.

              But that doesn’t mean we give up, and it doesn’t mean they win. After all, we are nearly 100% armed compared to them. And we care about principles that trump their stupid “feelings.” And many of us have managed to secure some prosperity in life. So I find reason to be very optimistic.

              Conservatives did not stay home. The math simply doesn’t support it, for one, and two, no conservative would have stayed home in the most important election since Lincoln. I know some fire-breathers disagree on this point, but I am adamant here. Don’t claim to be conservative and brag about staying home on Nov 6, 2012. It won’t wash. It will be a stain you can’t get away from. Anyone telling you they stayed home had better get a face-full from you if you are a conservative. I give them all hell, and extra to spare. Phonies, all of them. ALL OF THEM.

              We lost because Romney refused the mission: to champion conservative philosophy and principles. Instead he’s a “values” guy. Values don’t win elections for the right, principles do. That’s the Reagan lesson, and it needs to be shoved in their faces until they get it.

  • JRD1

    I’m sorry but when a Bush mafia Don like Ed Gillespie is singing your praises it signals that the fix is in.

    Gillespie is no friend of conservatives.

    “Ed Gillespie, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said Rubio is the ‘most natural communicator’ in the GOP since Ronald Reagan, I’ve not said that of anyone before,” he added.

    “When he speaks, it’s like someone tapped a tuning fork. He just hums,” Gillespie said.

    • MissMyGuy

      Rubio lacks humor and ease. Not a make or break issue, but he is not Reagan. He talks 100 mph. He talks AT people not to them. I mostly hear him on radio and I know that is a “say all you can in 5 mins” medium so there is pressure.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

      IMHO, Ed Gillespie is right, when it comes to a communicator Rubio is one of the best..
      I personally always felt Sarah Palin was a very effective passionate communicator and her accent never bothered me, don’t know why some people couldn’t get past the accent. From me those two are the best communicators the GOP has had since Ronald Reagan.

      • JRD1

        Yes, but words DO matter. Your actions have to mirror what comes out of your mouth.

        Sadly one of the politicians you cited joined the CBC. The other one fought them with a vengeance.

        That’s the difference.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

          CBC?

          • JRD1

            Ah, did you not watch Steven Bannon’s “The Undefeated?”

            It stands for the Corrupt Ba$tards Club.

            Do you trust Tokyo Rove? If not then why do you trust Ed Gillespie?

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

              Hehe, yes I did watch The Undefeated, just not recently so that acronym reference escaped me.

              Yup I don’t trust Rove, but about Ed Gillespie, there is nothing to trust, beause I heard Rubio speak before, and he just gave an opinion about Rubio, all I did was agree with his comment about being a natural communicator. Either you agree or you don’t, it has nothing to do with trust. I don’t follow Ed Gillespie and don’t seek out his opinions.

              • JRD1

                Comprende.

  • MiketheMarine

    No he IS NOT. He is just another RINO. We need to start making them an endangered species one way or another.

    • nosilasunny

      Not endangered even but politically extinct.

      • MiketheMarine

        That WAS the direction of my thought. We could stuff harry reid and nazi piglosi and put them on display at the Smithsonian.

        • nosilasunny

          :)

  • daeghrefn

    Rubio will win the nomination, lose, and then we’ll hear again “Nobody shoved Rubio down anyone’s throat. Who else was there?” As regular as clockwork.

    Face it, folks. The GOP’s finished and it doesn’t matter who the GOPe chooses as sacrificial lamb in 2016.

  • colliemum

    Well, that’s his goose cooked as far as proper conservatives are concerned: when the Dem propaganda machine, a.k.a. MSM, crown him already, a couple of weeks after the inauguration of the POS, then we know he and the GOp will lose in 2016 – should they be so demented and make him the only ‘eligible’ candidate MK III.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    Well, Marco Rubio has had it. As soon as a Republican conservative is praised by the mainstream media, then you know he or she is finished. Pity.

  • Bryan Ewbank

    First time I saw Rubio’s picture, I thought it was Michael Weatherly (aka Agent Tony DiNozzo from NCIS). Took me a bit to figure out that it wasn’t him…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_DiNozzo

  • Conniption Fitz

    Creepy Christie has come out in favor of online gambling – Wall Street Journal.

    Online Gambling is a dangerous addiction leaving many people, including children, in poverty.

    • sDee

      It is also an excellent Trojan horse for government regulation of the internet.

    • waytngtym

      Christie did that? New low.

  • sDee

    Reagan was but one bright glimmer of hope for liberty. Bush1 immediately started unwinding all that Regan accomplished. Ever since, it has been one Progressive big-government election after another.. The death march of the Republic.

    Rubio will as do as well as the next turtle to put up on the post.

  • ApplePie101

    If I were leaning toward Rubio, seeing him endorsed by Time magazine would have put the kabosh on that. I wish Mark Levin would see the man for the rino he is.

    • http://www.theamericanengineer.com/ Charity

      Is the article out yet? I’d want to read it before I made that judgement. Based on the cover I can’t see that Time likes him necessarily. They might set him up like that then subtly slam him in the article. We’ll see.

  • louisiana_mom

    This is the MSM’s pathetic attempt to get Conservatives to worship our leaders, like the Left does. Excuse the dialect but it ain’t gonna happen. We worship God, not someone in the government. I already have a Savior, his name is Jesus. What I need in Washington is a “representative” who will represent me.

  • Siobhan7

    Why is the elite shoving this guy down our throats? I’m sick of him and he is no savior of Patriotic Christian Conservatives who are having their country stolen from them. He’s just another politician pre-selected by our ruling masters. Get lost Rubio!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwWW2DQS_DU Booker T.(D-Apparatchik Alley)

    Honestly, I’m more concerned about this flailing economy more than anything else.

    • sDee

      I would say it is a collapsing economy. It is absolutely mind blowing that with an economic time bomb about to explode, they still get away with all this Rubio, immigration, gun control bullsh’t.

      Our politicians, all of them, know what is coming and are doing nothing but padding their nests.

  • KittyAmerica

    I suspect he really likes the cover, he just knows how to pretend.

    • sDee

      Best comment posted on this story.
      :D

      • KittyAmerica

        Thanks; easy to do when we’re not blind.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Heh. Time is basically admitting that the left views Obama as their Savior.

    So we have that going for us.

  • drphibes

    I like Rubio. Yet in all things there is the Reagan adage: Trust but verify.

  • dontdrinkthecoolaid

    Now the LIB media has anointed Marco, interesting. If past performance is true, then we should not trust Rubio, at all. It’s when the LIB media tries to destroy a conservative, see Sarah Palin, we should rally to support them.

    • factsobill

      Speak for yourself,LooksLikeYouBeenDrinkingKool-Aid

  • http://twitter.com/commonsenseobse commonsenseobserver

    More phoniness from Senator “If I didn’t tell people they might think I’m God instead of Jesus”.

    • factsobill

      A$$hat!