By The Right Scoop


This is very disappointing. I’m not sure what his reasons are, but it looks like to me that Tim Tebow is buying the smears from the left, smears that we debunked, and because of that has now canceled his appearance at Robert Jeffress’ First Baptist Church.

I hate it when people ignore the facts, including Tim Tebow:

(h/t: Twitchy)

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  • c4pfan

    That sucks for that church. It tells you that the bullies know what works. :(

  • marketcomp

    And this is why when we have people like Sen. Cruz who is willing to stand up against this media slaughter he needs to be supported. If they can make a professionsl foot player change his mind they can force anyone to do it.

    • pajamakat

      Cruz will back off soon too. Somehow the libs get to them all.

      • marketcomp

        Yeah, it may appear to be that way but I think Sen. Cruz is waaaaaaay more intelligent and methodical than Tim Teboe.No one knew who Sen. Cruz was and now more people know who he is and will look closer. Let us not forget, Tim Tebow has the muscle and braun but Sen. Cruz has strategic abilities. I don’t think Tim Tebow could withstand $35M worth of negative campaigning against him like Sen. Cruz did in the State of Texas. You either buckle of get stronger.

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          I am uplifted by your optimism regarding Cruz! :-)

          In a time when it seems to me we (or at least I) have more to be depressed about (NObama still in the WH just to start with).

          • marketcomp

            Yeah, I know! It is always darkest before the dawn, my friend.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          Great analysis.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    Leftard smear machine- 1
    Tim Tebow and truth – 0

    Sad really. You know, if he committed to doing something then he should have the courage of his convictions and do what he said he would do.

    • MiketheMarine

      I agree with that. If your word means nothing then what good are you? Tim should know this.

    • bbitter

      Fully agreed. I’m ashamed for Tim.

      I’m not baptist, but I really wish Tebow had kept his word to speak. Either you believe in Christ or not, and if you do, you should fear no earthly power or ridicule. Be not ashamed!

      Stand, man, and preach of Christ!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      I always taught my daughter that if you don’t have the courage of your convictions then you don’t have any convictions. That taught her to fight for her beliefs and she has stood up to peers, teachers, profs, and bosses.

      She told me it was one of her most valuable lessons that has served her well.

  • las1

    You know Scoop, while I sympathize with your disappointment and the work you put into the background on this story, I also sympathize with Tim Tebow.

    He’s a simple guy doing his job in professional sports. He’s been exposed to the ridicule and hatred of the professional mockers and scoffers. Who the hell wants that! He’s not one of us who follows every burp and fart from this corrupt cultural system. Obviously he’s been fed some anxiety and fear by the politically correct crowd that surround him. He just wants to play sports and magnify our Lord. I can’t blame him. Who needs the headache.

    The capacity for evil that seems so utterly pervasive has had its effect. I definitely sympathize with him.

    Let the Breitbarts in us confront these bastards. Let Tebow do his best at sports.

    • RefudiateGOPe

      Adding to that, he has an upcoming situation they may end his career. The Jets are expected to release him. They’d like to trade him, but according to Bill Polian, one of the most respected ex-GM’s, teams don’t want him because they don’t want the “baggage” of the media circus. It’s not fair, but it’s probably accurate.

      • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

        Why can’t he play full back? There’s a lot of hubris in that young man. He can’t think well enough on his feet to be a NFL QB and all the real football players know that.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        They should release Sanchez.

    • m0r0

      Well said my friend! I couldn’t agree more. He is maligned at every turn. We need not do it here where we truly appreciate his courage overall.

    • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

      Maybe the real Christians out there reminded him that Jesus was about ‘loving thy neighbor’ and he never said a word against homosexuals. Surely, tebow is smart enough to know that his photographs in commercials are designed to attract homosexuals…or he would be more covered up. He’s running his religion into big bucks, no matter if he gets kicked out of the NFL due to inability to throw AND think at the same time.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HO5ZYKXQVLNQ5ZPAOYB3ZZURHU oscar

        I guess I’m not one of the “real Christians out there” then, alice, because it is a fact that Jesus actually DID speak to the issue. And it is impossible for any clear-thinking, honest person who wants simply to know and understand (not necessarily agree with) what Christ said on the topic. It was very simple and very clear every time Jesus touched upon the subject of marriage that He intended and understood it to be between one man and one woman. It could be misunderstood only by those who WISH to. Jesus never spoke against beastiality or necrophilia, either, so that must mean (to the liberal mind) that He approved of sex with animals and dead people. Please. What hogwash.

      • las1

        Unitarian eh! No surprise there. Delightful to pick and choose whatever the “real Christian” smorgasbord is serving up.

        And btw there Grandma Alice, when you come out of your basement long enough to feed all those grandkids you’ve got, do you serve them up the same liberal “political activist” sludge you’re dishing out here? You might want to worry, however, when little Suzie says, I wanna grow up to be just like Grandma.

        Go burp your acid elsewhere… Huffpo perhaps. That crowd will eagerly lick at whatever bile froth you’re heaving up.

      • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

        The last time I checked, Jesus is God and Scripture is God’s Word and therefore, Jesus speaks towards the issue of homosexuality. I am unsure why this is hard to understand.

        Just because you may have a red letter edition, doesn’t mean that Jesus only spoke verbally but also through the writings of all Scripture.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Sadly, though he had a choice and he rather agree with those who willingly malign Christianity than stand firm with the SBC. This may see repercussions worse than when Giglio stepped down. It is only going to get worse and as Albert Mohler states, they are going to demand more now that Tebow back down.

      http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/february-web-only/tebows-big-fumble.html?paging=off

      • las1

        Puritan, I read the article and this line struck me:

        “…even the most humble statement of biblical truth can now be turned into a sound bite described as hate speech and a refusal to affirm the normalization of homosexuality is turned into repulsive intolerance.”

        Bang on! That’s exactly where we are at right now. There used to be a time when Christians could comfortably mix their faith with professional sports. Tebow is probably the last Christian to open that door and enter that arena. But that era is now gone.

        • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

          I do have a deep respect for Dr. Molher’s understanding of our culture. He has been at it for a very long time. I do find his points spot on. Thanks for taking the time to read it las1

  • Philo Beddoe

    Tebow is ripped for his Christianity by his fellow players and strangers all the while not a word is said about the gangsta rappers and the dysfunctional stories that run free in the media are accepted.

    Go figure

    • Rshill7

      “…and the dysfunctional stories that run free in the media are accepted.”

      And excepted.

    • las1

      You know Phil, professional sports is just not what it used to be. And rare was the story of the bad-boy athlete. Now the concept is de rigueur. And we are supposed to bow and scrape and ooh! and aah!
      We see such pathetic behaviour from these self-centred twenty-somethings enabled by their culture Marxist handlers in Media. And when good people stand up and say STOP… they face the full fury of the pooh flinging establishment.

    • https://twitter.com/LadyMacKeltar LadyMacKeltar

      This subject gets me really angry. How some can accept and cheer the likes of Vick, Roethlisberger, etc. but ridicule someone like Tim is beyond my comprehension. We loved him at UF and I wish the Jaguars could have picked him up. The Lord must have a different path than the NFL for Tim to travel at this time. Wherever it is, he will succeed because he will be following God’s will.

      • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

        Because he can’t play NFL football as QB and he’s too prideful (so far) to play fullback. He might get hit on the field and mess up his pretty muscles.
        HE and Gronk are so similar, so beautiful, but Gronk is more honest.

  • stage9

    Yep, he wimped out. And it probably has a lot to do with the policies of the NFL or the Jets organization. But then these days, “seeker sensitive” is the new Christian ethic. Don’t offend anyone. That way the sinner will be surprised when they end up in hell rather than forewarned so that they could avoid it altogether.

    Western Christians in general are wimps.

    • John3_3

      Exactly! He is trying to hold the hand of Jesus and the hand of the world at the same time. The world’s appeal is winning. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

      • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

        Amen to that, brother. You can’t serve both God and mammon.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Tim… trust God. HE will NEVER let you down if you are honoring Him. And there’s no telling how God will bless you and others for this.

    What a tremendous disappointment.

  • TickedWhiteDude

    Tim, it’s times like these when you keep carrying the cross. Please don’t stop. Not too many people are in the position you are in to put God’s message out there.

  • SOmmma

    He didn’t say what “new information”

    Do not attack people who are on your side. He is on the front lines and puts himself at the most risk.

    Support , do not tear down your allies

    • Joseph ewing

      We do it continually. It’s why we likely never will win back the White House. No one is ever perfect enough.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        I would rather never see the WH than be part of the Borg that has no individuality.

    • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

      The ‘new information’ is that hating homosexuals makes you un=Christian due to the fact that Christ said, “As ye do unto the least of these, my brother, do ye also unto me.”
      Too many lower class white trash churches teach hatred. Too many ignoramuses confuse Christianity with hatred of people different from ourselves. Wish I believed in a literal Hell, cause these poor souls are going to burn in it.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        Do you hear yourself?

        You are screaming about hatred all the while posting hatred.

        Christ also said “You reap what you sow”.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        I think you’re done.

        • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

          heh. I was trying to do the same thing at the same time. I got a disqus error. Evidently “alice” is peddling some serious hatred of religion today.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            lol. Double whammy! I like it! :-D Adios alice. Thanks K-Bob!

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      Feel free to look up the 1st Baptist church of Dallas and see for yourself. It is a cop out of the worst kind. If it was bad, it would have been wise to share.

      http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/february-web-only/tebows-big-fumble.html?paging=off

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    I just found out I can reply to tweets that appear here on TRS! That is so cool! :-)

    I just sent Tim this message: “@TimTebow Please reconsider. God is on your side, let not the Left put you off what you said you would do. Pray. then do the right thing.”

    I’m hoping and assuming others are also sending him messages of encouragement and urging to to do the right thing too.

    • virginiagentleman1

      Brother Wolfie, are you also assuming that Tebow has NOT prayed over this matter? I assume that he has my friend, deeply and humbly. God guides this lad, not public opinion. VG

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        Not at all VG. But with the limitation of twitter, I had to make my comment at Pithy as I could. I had to edit it several times before I finally got it small enough to tweet. Twitter is a bit of a pain in the rear to use to say anything useful. As you saw above Even Mr. Tebow had to split his short comment over several tweets just to get it out.

      • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

        Did God tell him to pose in his underwear for all those crotch shots. That’s called soft porn, dear heart. And Tim’s a master at it or his handlers are.

  • deTocqueville1

    Well it is disappointing but we do not know all of the background. I don’t think Tebow lacks courage so I suspect he felt that the controversy and negative media spotlight might negate his positive contribution. Anyway I wish him success in dealing with his Jets situation.

    • https://twitter.com/LadyMacKeltar LadyMacKeltar

      I agree. If Tim was able to behave in a Christlike manner while dealing with the pressures and abuses from the Jets players and their fans for an entire season, he certainly has the courage and faith to stand up to any other controversy. I want to believe his decision is based upon God’s guidance. I too wish Tim success on whatever path he takes next.

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      And yet, he could have said that. He could have put the media on notice and instead, the media is just going to keep forcing him to make a decision between Scriptures and popularity. Don’t believe me….read this http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/february-web-only/tebows-big-fumble.html?paging=off

  • sjmom

    I am somewhat disappointed but Tim Tebow has, like Sarah Palin, and others been persecuted time and again. Hopefully, he prayed for wisdom before making his decision.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RYQGFT3TATTTVUI6MRT7PVTGWA kyle m.

    I just lost a lot of respect for Tim Tebow. I never thought much of him as a pro football player, but I always admired his willingness to stand up for his faith. It’s a shame that he was unwilling to stand up with an uncompromising minister like Dr. Jeffress. Tebow has just showed he has the backbone of a jellyfish.

    I bet he got threatened from his corporate sponsors. Best of luck Tim selling Jockey underwear and TiVo, you did a great job selling out Dr. Jeffress.

    Matthew 10:
    26Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27What I tell you in darkness, that speak you in light: and what you hear in the ear, that preach you on the housetops. 28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31Fear you not therefore, you are of more value than many sparrows. 32Whoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33But whoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    • virginiagentleman1

      With all due respect, it would appear that you are being misleading in your statement that you’ve lost a lot of respect for Tebow. You obviously had none for him. Your next sentence says that you never thought much of him as a pro football player.

      What do you know about Robert Jeffress, Kyle? Do you attend his church? Are you aware of the dissatifaction with him within his church because of his venturing into politics? An ‘uncompromising’ Dr. Jeffress? Hardly.

      But you go on to call Tebow ‘spineless’ like a jellyfish, mock his off field endevors with TiVo and Jockey. Are even remotely aware that the largest portion of that money goes to charity?

      I am not doing to you what you have done to Tebow, judge you, Kyle. That act belongs to God and God alone. Instead, I’m showing you what you have said about another human being who actually LIVES the verses in Matthew 10: 26-33 that you use to ridicule.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/RYQGFT3TATTTVUI6MRT7PVTGWA kyle m.

        Even Tebow admits that this was a career move on his part.

        “Tim called me last night and explained to me that because of some things going on in his personal life and his career he needed to steer clear of controversy right now, but that at some other date he would like to come and speak at our church,” Jeffress told CNN by phone from Dallas. “Tim has to do what Tim thinks is best for him right now.”

        “They certainly believe what we do, that salvation is through Christ alone, and about homosexuality. Tim confirmed that to me last night, that they believe exactly what we do about homosexuality.”

        He is in need of a new NFL job as the Jets are looking to unload him. This appears to be more about economic self interest and less about theological differences (they are both Southern Baptists and Dr. Jeffress’ stances were not unkown).

        We have all made compromises of faith at times, but they are not played out on such a public stage. I’m grateful that God’s grace is sufficient for my many shortcomings. At the end of the day Tebow is just a man, thankfully Christ never said “I don’t need controversy right now.”

        Whatever we compromise to keep, we will eventually lose.

        • virginiagentleman1

          Kyle, thank you for a cogent and reasoned reply.

  • virginiagentleman1

    Sorry Scoop, I have a different ‘take’ on this.

    Tebow has appeared at this church before to speak. He says that he has some new information that has caused him to reconsider.
    Unless he wants to tell us what that information is, I am inclined to believe that it has nothing to do with “politics” and everything to do with truth and honesty. Pastor Jeffress has run headlong into the political spectrum and with mixed results and mixed messages.
    If I don’t trust Jeffress to be the man of he says that he is, and I do not trust him, what would a relatively naive youngster like Tebow have to hear to change his mind.

    Please keep in mind, that Tebows advisors are his parents and his older brothers. His circle of confidants is even smaller then Sarah Palins’!
    Seriously, does anyone truely believe his pastor father, his mother and his siblings are going to LIE to him for some nefarious reason? They brought him up to be the exceptional young man that he is!

    This young man goes out of his way to aid and assist others, and most often does so out of his own pocket.

    Sometimes we see the ugly specter of politics where none exist.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      I see where you are coming from but your scenario is based on the premise that his parents/advisers have good information.

      I sincerely hope his brand of Christianity isn’t of the kind that looks away and excuses what the word of God has clearly stated as wrong. Moral relativism is spreading like a cancer in this country and churches are not immune.

      • virginiagentleman1

        BRAND OF CHRISTIANITY?!!!!!

        There is only one “BRAND” to my knowledge, Laurel, either you FOLLOW Christs teachings or you do not!
        The rest that you refer to is either church theology, church doctrine, or some churchs dogma!
        Jesus was quite good at speaking for Himself! Are you saved? Do you have trouble reading Christs words?

        A church’s ‘teachings’ add nothing at all to what the Master Himself has said.

        You can only KNOW Christs teachings by reading them for yourself and by being saved in His name. An honest pastor will tell you that himself.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          I think you know exactly what I am referring to. And if you don’t then all of the screaming at me in the world won’t change that you are devoid of what is going on in the realm of religion.

          And attacking me personally by questioning my religion is a progressive move. It really isn’t worthy of you.

          And P.S. What I read in regards to Christ and the Bible is flat none of your business.

          • virginiagentleman1

            Attacking you? Asking you questions is attacking you?
            I am attempting to reason with you, make a point, not attack nor scream at you.

            You say that questioning your religion is a progressive move, that it is unworthy of me! So, you think I am a progressive? Seriously?

            I asked you if you are saved. Is that attacking you Laurel?

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

              And I pointed out that it is none of your business whether I am saved or not, what I read or don’t read, etc. What next? Personal hygiene questions? Sex life questions? Are you going to ask for my medical records? I don’t know you from the man in the moon so personal questions about my religion or personal questions of any kind are off limits and quite frankly rude.

              Questions can be put forth as an attack…you know this because that is exactly what you did. I didn’t call you a progressive but I did say that is a progressive move.

              Many churches in this country have been perverted, Christianity included. Social justice movement is but one form of perversion along with many others. Have you missed all of the splits? What I was questioning, since I don’t know, if whether Tebow belongs to a branch of this religious trend or not. If Jeffress did indeed do what he is accused of in the eyes of Tebow, and Tebow belongs to this type of religious movement, then that might be what he was referring to.

              For the record I don’t think Jeffress is guilty of anything except not being good at playing politics. My thoughts on Tebow are speculation only since I don’t know what his deeply held personal beliefs are and where they meet up in the political arena. Or maybe he is just keeping this low key and putting the kabash on this due to politics and his career.

              Unless Tebow tells me himself I can only speculate and since he is a public figure it is within bounds to do so.

          • nibblesyble

            Whoaaaa Laurel, don’t take offense! virginiagentleman1 is beloved around here because he is gentle but firm and stands on his convictions. Please reread what he says and take a kinder look at it. I always appreciate what you post and appreciate your point of view, but that was too harsh and I stand with my Sounthern Gentleman.

            • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

              Nope. I did take a second look. He went too far and has no business questioning my religion and making that his personal mission because I questioned Tebow’s position.

              I don’t care how long he has been around here, and most of the time I agree with him, but he crossed a line here and if he is the gentleman he claims to be he will apologize. I understand sticking up for Tebow, I like Tebow and stick up for him myself constantly! However there is some serious evil infiltrating religion in America and since Tebow didn’t elaborate on why he cancelled he opened the door to speculation and questioning.

              And yes in these times I question everything including those that deem themselves religious. How many of the so called pillars of the church have to fall in disgrace before people learn that?

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

                And P.S. virginiagentleman1 is not the only one allowed to stand on his convictions. If he is then that Constitution and Bill of Rights everyone so proudly claims to stand by are nothing more than rhetoric and empty words.

            • Conservative_Hippie

              Agreed!

    • iaintlyin

      Hey Gent, I’m with ya on this one. From what I’ve seen of Tebow I tend to think he “has some new information” relative to his appearance and/or something relative to his hosts present position. To say this is a backdown on Tebows part is a stretch. Tebow knows how to take heat and knows which situations are worth being in the frying pan for. Appaerently he feels this situation isn’t to his liking and I respect him for it, simply because I like the way he has faced his detratctors for the past years. Hey Tim, I’m a Tebow juice drinker. Haven’t seen you back from any beliefs yet and I doubt you are now

    • nibblesyble

      A voice of reason sir.

      • virginiagentleman1

        I find it disturbing that a simple questioning of Tebows motives should generate, personal attacks on him here in this forum milady. Perhaps some here may do some indepth research on the “uncompromising Dr. Jeffress”.

        Scoop in his opening wrote,” I’m not sure what his reasons are”. That would have been the best way to leave it, I’M NOT SURE WHAT HIS REASONS ARE!

    • https://twitter.com/LadyMacKeltar LadyMacKeltar

      I agree with everything you say, VG. I have followed Tim’s career since he was at UF. We’ve never seen him behave in any way other than what you would expect of a follower of Christ. If Tim is compromising his christian believes to please his secular followers, it is not up to anyone to pass judgement. God will take care of it.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Well said vg1! We don’t know his reasons, perhaps they are legitimate.

    • NCHokie02

      Agreed, however it would be nice to hear from him that the reason he cancelled was not because of the LGBT community. They are using it for their agenda so to counter it by saying it’s not because of them and his perceived “image” would be nice. He doesn’t have to say exactly why either, just not because of them.

  • John3_3

    Tebow is trying to hold Jesus in one hand and the world in the other. The Bible says a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Tebow is a perfect example of a compromising, worldly Christian. From what I know about this particular church they are still pretty straight and still stand for sound doctrine and some Biblical standards. Tebow is caving from the pressure of the WORLD. The Bible tells us that in the last days some will turn their ears from sound doctrine. This is what we are seeing here.

    I really don’t doubt Tebow is a born again Chritian. He is just your typical, worldly, compromising Christian of today.

    Some won’t agree with me on here, but then again I’m used to it because I am a pastor of a Baptist Church that doesn’t compromise the TRUTH. I hear it all the time.

    • NCHokie02

      I always try to remember the passage, and perhaps you can quote it directly for me, where Jesus said “when they hate you, remember that they hated me first.”

      I always try to remember that when I hear people blast God, Jesus and the Bible. One of my favorite passages.

      • John3_3

        Joh 15:18 ¶ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
        19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

        • NCHokie02

          thanks, however He beat you to it. After I got up from the computer I was just thumbing through my bible and happened to flip right to it. Even His smallest works still amaze me.

  • jdbaird

    I don’t know his reasoning but if it’s to avoid criticism it won’t work. As long he glorifies God he’ll be attacked relentlessly.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

    Seems to me he is going to have to come out with his reasoning.

    • iaintlyin

      Why does he have to explain beyond the fact that he has changed his mind? This guy is an athlete that loves God. To have journalists or even nosey peers asking any further questions about this would cause me to ask them about their followup questions to 0 regarding Benghazi.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        Technically speaking he doesn’t have to but there are consequences to that.

        • iaintlyin

          oooooo, and what pray tell would those consequences be, unfounded rumors? Until he decides if its anyone elses business, anything said relative to his motives is pure speculation and not worth paying attention to. Its a non story to me.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            It’s a non story to you…but maybe not so much to others.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      …unless of course it’s personal.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        To an extent I agree but Tebow chose the limelight and celebrity status so he has to take all that goes with it. He publicly proclaimed his religion and ‘Tebowing’ did advance his celebrity which equates to money.

        If the decision was made because something personal came up then he just needs to say so. Right now the LGBT is running with his decision and using it for personal gain on their part so a clarification would be good. If he has a non-answer then that is an answer isn’t it?

  • JS

    When are people going to realize more is at stake than playing a game. Tebow has been black listed plain and simple. His career in the NFL is probably over. The country is on the verge of collapse and people are worried more about an NFL player than Benghazi. People are more worried about perception than truth.

    When the NFL started letting these narcissistic players strut around after every tackle I knew the old NFL was gone for good. The NFL that stood for integrity, team work and the love for the game is fading fast, if not gone already.

    I want to know what information was brought to his attention. Was it something really bad about the Church? Until I know more, I will hold off on forming my complete opinion.

    Only Tebow can make his own decisions and has to live with them.

    Everyone needs to keep in mind the POPE himself backed down from criticism and apologized for telling the truth, so why put so much on the shoulders of Tebow?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    I’ve seen him mention and honor Jesus Christ countless times, I’m not mad at Tim Tebow, he had his reasons to cancel and for whatever they are I don’t really care.

    • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

      That’s called idol worship. Remember the 10 Commandments? Thou shalt have no other God before me.
      Looks like Tebow is your golden calf.

      • Conservative_Hippie

        boooooo

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

        Wrong. Jesus Christ is my lord and savior, not Tim Tebow, not even close, but go ahead judge me however you want, really ain’t my problem.

        • las1

          After looking at granny Alice’s Disqus profile, here’s was my response to her:

          Unitarian eh! No surprise there. Delightful to pick and choose whatever the “real Christian” smorgasbord is serving up.

          And btw there Grandma Alice, when you come out of your basement long enough to feed all those grandkids you’ve got, do you serve them up the same liberal “political activist” sludge you’re dishing out here? You might want to worry, however, when little Suzie says, I wanna grow up to be just like Grandma.

          Go burp your acid elsewhere… Huffpo perhaps. That crowd will eagerly lick at whatever bile froth you’re heaving up.

          American “liberalism” truly is a mental pathology. For people who just love to talk about “hate”, they certainly marinate themselves in it.

      • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

        Mere projection on your part.

        • las1

          Well it sure looks like something, and that explanation is just as good as any. She sure had an obsession with Tim Tebow, that much was evident.

      • NCHokie02

        how is he raising TT up as a god before Christ by saying he’s not angry with TT for his decision? Is it disappointing? Sure…..am I angry? No. I don’t think Christ would want us to be angry with TT about it either. In the end of it it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other as I don’t even live in Texas and am not a fan of the Jets. Does that make me have idol worship?

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Agreed!

  • Retired_Coach

    So it’s come to this. Too young to do his own due diligence I guess. Got to listen to his handlers/promotion people/agent instead. Nothing controversial about Robert Jeffress and First Baptist, except maybe that he preaches the Word and is not ashamed to do so. That’s controversial these days. Not a member of his church but I listen to him every morning on my way to work. I expect secular society to hammer on the good preacher but now it looks like that his fellow brothers/sisters are giving them a hand. Good grief. He messed up and I lost some respect for the kid.

    • Conniption Fitz

      Good point – possibly Tebow made a choice between a product endorsement (to bring money in for his family and ministries) and sticking by what Scripture teaches on marriage (if the FOX story is accurate).

      If this is true, it’s a bad decision on his part. Gay and abortion activists, like all other leftists, are intolerant, spiteful, punitive bullies. They will force him to ruin his witness then turn and attack him behind his back.

  • waytngtym

    Let’s not criticize. Tim you are going to have many chances, just keepp praying. We lift you up for prayer for whatever you need today, Amen.

    • Conservative_Hippie

      Amen!

    • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

      I think it is not the criticism that is dangerous as is the fact that two Christians have backed out of commitments publicly due to media attention instead of the facts. Please read Dr. Mohler’s insightful article regarding this issue.

      http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/february-web-only/tebows-big-fumble.html?paging=off

      • waytngtym

        I just read some of it. I don’t know enough about that First Baptist church. I need to learn more before I feel I understand this. I did make one comment to Grtjag earlier that I feel strongly about. Thx P.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel
    • Conniption Fitz

      “Tebow did not elaborate on what that “new information” might have been.

      But sources close to First Baptist Church tell Fox News the NFL quarterback cancelled his appearance in part over the uproar surrounding the church’s position on traditional marriage.

      Robert Jeffress, the pastor of First Baptist Church, has been an outspoken leader in the nation’s culture wars – affirming from the pulpit traditional marriage and salvation through Jesus Christ.

      The national media labeled Jeffress as anti-gay and anti-Semitic – charges that were vehemently denied by the pastor, the church and many national religious leaders.

      Tebow’s decision has been met with praise among the nation’s gay and lesbian community.

      “He was smart to cancel,” wrote Wayne Self, a prominent blogger of LGBT issues. “Tebow has never been a serious theologian or moral arbiter, but instead a popular evangelical Christian. But being associated with such a virulently anti-gay pastor would only tarnish his image.”

      Jeffress told Fox News that he received a telephone call from Tebow last night informing him of the decision.

      “He explained to me that because of things going on in his personal life and his professional career – that he really needed to avoid controversy right now,” Jeffress said. “We are disappointed.”

      Afterwards, Tebow sent the pastor a text message saying that he wanted to pray about the decision before making it final and would contact him Thursday morning.

      Instead, Tebow tweeted news of his decision without notifying the church – a move that caught the pastor off-guard.

      “To me, the real issue here is the controversy this has generated,” Jeffress said. “It’s amazing that a church that believes faith alone in Christ is what saves a person and that sex should be between a man and a woman in a marriage relationship – that somehow those beliefs are considered hate speech? That is historic Christian doctrine for the past 2,000 years.”

      So did Tebow cave in to pressure from gay activists?”

      IF Tebow has gone soft on ‘gay’ ‘marriage’ his Christian witness is going down the tube worse than his football career. – BUT keep in mind, this is the media – FOX news and a LBGTXYZ activist talking.

      • nibblesyble

        With this new info(if true!) I am indeed disappointed and saddened, having said that, what do we expect…when you are in that culture you adapt to that culture..that is why Jesus warned be in the world but not like it. I hope the news reports are wrong!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          Take comfort in that. If he weren’t in the world but not like it I think it would be total anarchy and chaos.

          Question Tebow, that is legitimate but keep your powder dry on the rest just yet. Trust but verify.

          • NCHokie02

            …and your hatchet scoured.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

        Yeah I read that but it seems people would rather attack me personally about my religion and whether I have been saved or not, and whether I have read the bible or not, instead of reading the information. That is why I posted the link! That was my effort to avoid a flame war as K-Bob puts it.

        My conclusions were drawn from the reporting and Todd Starnes is usually pretty reliable but I did leave the door open for Tebow to fix it for me in my mind’s eye. I hope he does. In all probability if I want to give the benefit of the doubt it could be he isn’t for gay marriage but just doesn’t feel like fighting that fight at this moment. Sometimes one does need to take one step back to get two steps ahead. That I can totally understand on his part.

        There is no question that churches across this country and Europe for the last decade at least have been splitting in large part due to the issues of gays. I simply questioned whether he was a part of that. Many are and I think it is a legitimate question. This is a blog…don’t we blog to discuss issues from all angles?

      • NCHokie02

        “He was smart to cancel,” wrote Wayne Self, a prominent blogger of LGBT issues. “Tebow has never been a serious theologian or moral arbiter, but instead a popular evangelical Christian. But being associated with such a virulently anti-gay pastor would only tarnish his image.”

        I would love to ask that guy “In who’s eyes would it tarnish his image?” Because yours and the rest of the people out there don’t matter. I’m sure God would have smiled if Tim Tebow stood up to the hate and persecution of him going there to help advance the Kingdom.

  • http://militarycannonfodder.blogspot.com alicecbrown

    What is the Lord teaching Tim Tebow today, now that he is washing out of the NFL? Will he go on the traveling evangelist circuit like his parents? He really doesn’t have the IQ to be a QB in the NFL, much less learn to throw. Sorry, but he should be able to play humility into a large bankroll.

  • KittyAmerica

    This is a big disappointment.

  • Gtrjag

    I love Tim Tebow for what he did at Florida, but I am confused as to how he has been persecuted. He was a great college player but he is a below average NFL quarterback. I’ve always found his popularity strange, because most Christians in our culture are ridiculed. What Tim Tebow just did was undermine the ministry of Pastor Jeffries. As Christians, we have to stick together when the world comes against us. You don’t abandon your own when the going gets tough.

    • NCHokie02

      and as I point out a lot on here Christ said “when they hate you remember that they hated me first”. God wants us to be strong in our faith in the face of ridicule and evil. There is another verse, which I can’t remember exactly, that basically states every time someone stands up to persecution with their faith, all of heaven rejoices. (something to that effect). It bothers me so much to see people of faith cower to media hype or peer pressure or what have you. No one is going to kill you. There are Christians in other parts of the world that are facing true persecution, and people over here back down if they think they will hurt someones feelings or be called names. There are people in other countries that face death because of their faith, yet they remain true to God. It’s just like all those “cultural catholics” who claim to be Catholic yet they are ok with gays getting married, and abortion and all that crap.

    • waytngtym

      What if Pastor Jeffries had done that, ie, told the media nothing or that Tim and he were in private discussions about some changes in plan, instead of making a public spectacle about Tim’s private conflicts? What if Jeffries had said to the media, “This is a personal matter and I can’t disclose anything due to pastor confidentiality?” thereby not abansdoning his own?

  • maynardb50

    Mr. Tebow, follow your heart, not the news media. McCain disavowed John Hagee in 2008, and look where that got him.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      I had forgotten about that.

  • Conservative_Hippie

    RS, before you throw Tebow under the bus are you sure you understand why he canceled? I mean what did he mean by “due to new information that has been brought to my attention”? In your post you admit that you don’t know for sure what his reasons are so, perhaps he has a good reason, no?

  • c4pfan

    VG, you better be taking care of yourself and not let this get too much to you!

  • Kevin Edwards

    “I will continue to use the platform God has blessed me with to bring Faith, Hope and Love to all those…” Why did you cancel then? just not to whom?

  • TxGold

    I don’t think it’s necessarily our business why he decided not to go. Sounds like a personal choice to me.

    • clevonlittle

      absolutely…..

  • JS64

    You have really disappointed your fans in the Lord. We felt you would never cave to secular opinion. You were a bright star that our children could look up to. Finally a Christian athlete that stood firm for Jesus Christ, unwavering in that stance. You have failed these children and the many parents who finally had an athlete that they could point to as a true hero.It is so sad that you chose the world over the Lord, Tim. I hope you won’t live to regret this weighty decision.

  • AndrewJennings

    Evangelicalism is all a bunch of poofy emotionalism that will die out soon.  Soon, “real” Christians will no longer hide in their houses.  Christianity is not about saving souls, or making money, or fueling Western idealism.  It is about clearing out the “Father’s house” (Walmart, maybe), taking all the clothes out of every store, giving five outfits to every child and adult in every country in every continent in the world, giving each of them a strong, objective education, giving enough nourishment and shelter for each of them so that they can put roots down and everybody in the world can become a helpful member of Earth.  I denied “Christ” by denying my own flighty emotions for years, and now I am starting to become free.