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Unbelievable. Just sick, absolutely sick:

I sincerely hope there are a lot of flag-waving American citizens that won’t allow these sickos to get anywhere close to Sandy Hook Elementary.

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  • 911Infidel

    God Hates Westboro Baptist. They’re neither Baptist or Christian. They’re nothing but wolves in sheep’s clothing. white washed sepulchurs filled with dead mem’s bones.

    We should establish a new holiday and call it “punch a Westboro Baptist in the face” Day.

    • 1endtimes2020

      I suppose you think that’s not being hateful. ???? well ???

      • 911Infidel

        What a wimpy reply.

        • Bells97

          Thats called JUSTICE!

      • E. Lee Zimmerman

        Awwww … did mommy let you on the PC again today?

        • 1endtimes2020

          Immature comments don’t contribute to a better America.

          • E. Lee Zimmerman

            Precisely why I don’t think your mom should leave the PC on when she goes to the club.

          • http://twitter.com/lovetocompete Lona Pflum

            Immature thinking will not do American any good either. There are people in this world who hate us and sticking our heads in the sand or any where else is not going to make us more safe.

          • UnCL3

            yeah…you should STFU then…

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              Please read the comment rules. Thanks.

              • UnCL3

                rules nazi?

                • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                  Yes I am. Consider yourself warned. Thanks.

                • UnCL3

                  Shaking in my boots…

                • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                  you’re a real riot.

                • Bucketheadbaptist

                  No name callin’

                  But apparently telling someone that they Speak with the tongue of Legion and Satan… that passes muster.

                • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                  I called him a riot because he made me laugh.

                • UnCL3

                  thanks for the kind words…

                • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

                  lol. Knock it off.

    • John3_3

      I know what your saying, 911. As a pastor of a Baptist Church I hate to see these people in the news! But, God doesn’t hate them…He shed His blood for them too.

      • http://www.facebook.com/joe.rupert.5 Joe Rupert

        uhhh I know it is really hard not to hate those people, even as a CHristian

      • Bucketheadbaptist

        “I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.”

        Do you know why your (used to be able to say “our”) convention is now dying? Because of Westboro.

        They took that name… and they trash it from Coast to Coast…. and what’s so bad is… most of the SBC secretly agrees with them.

        Tell me… how many people in your church this year… the boldest witness for Christ that they gave was to go buy a Chicken Sandwich for Jesus at Chick-fil-a?

      • 911Infidel

        Yeah, lets just sing kumbaya and smoke a little weed.

        Westboro Baptist really makes the word Baptist sound more like a cuss word. I choose to be non-denominational. Plus I’d gladly punch a Westboro typre in the face for what they’ve done to my fellow vets and their families; and just because Westboro sucks.

      • From_Average_Jane

        As a faithful Christian, am I expected to turn the other cheek whenever the Westboro Church hurts others? As a pastor, please will you tell me, am I expected to continue turning the other cheek, again and again and again and again, never taking into consideration how just despicable and vile the Westboro attacks are? Are the faithful expected to continue forgiving these people who do not want forgiveness, and continue their egregious offenses without a shred of regret?

        • wodiej

          If you are a pastor, then you already know the answer. As vile as it is what Westboro does, it is not up to us to judge them. God will take care of that. I do think God is Ok with making sure the funerals are not disrupted though by just blocking protestors like they have done at other funerals.

          • From_Average_Jane

            I am not a pastor. I am asking John3_3 for the answers because he is the pastor.

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              Think of all Jesus forgave. Think of what treatment He received. I think in those, we find the answers. We glorify Jesus when we respond with the other cheek to evil creeps such as these, and show the difference between true Christ followers and false ones. I know it’s hard- I get sarcastic and angry with these fools, but as Christians, we need to remember God will judge them much better than we can. Yes we’d like to see justice now for the innocent people who have to put up with these jerks, and seems to me some folks have found creative ways to keep these idiots from harrassing the victims. Let’s help when they are in areas we are during these times, and pray for change of hearts. Then we can pray for God’s will, and peace for the victims.

          • E. Lee Zimmerman

            Erm … doesn’t God inspire men to accomplish his works?

          • badbadlibs

            Yes, we are to judge them. And I’m so glad to know you can pronounce what God is “ok” with.
            God is ok with judging righteous judgment. He said so. It’s isn’t something I can pronounce He is ok with as if there isn’t any Scripture to back that up, because there is Scripture that says just that.
            The ONLY people who cannot judge the westboro devils are any people who are doing the same exact thing they are. (Matthew 7:1-5)

            “Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as you have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate…..” (Amos 5:14-15)

            “The mouth of the righteous speaks wisdom, and his tongue talks of judgment.” (Psa. 37:30)

            Judging, according to God is a fascinating subject. Perhaps you might want to delve into such a study.

          • Betsey_Ross

            Our job is to stop them. We cannot commit some crime against them even though we would like to. It would just complicate the mess they create and muddy the waters. Move them far up the street and restrict their movement. I am sure they have no permit.

        • John3_3

          Mt 18:21 ¶ Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
          22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

          It’s hard for us, sinful humans to understand this, but just as Jesus suffered for our heinous sins and forgave us for them, we are to forgive others. Do I live up to this all the time and do I enjoy doing this all the time, no. None the less, the Bible is Truth and we, that are His children, must try to live holy, forgiving lives.

          • badbadlibs

            *sigh*
            Yes, we are to judge. God said His people perish for lack of understanding.

            Paul said: “But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.” (1 Corth. 2:15) Please note: “all things”.

            There is so much more, but I won’t go on and on, but I will correct the wrong idea that we, as Christians are not to judge.

            • John3_3

              You are right badbadlibs, in that sense. But we are not to judge to the degree that we are to condemn someone to hell. We are not to judge one’s salvation, that is left up to God and I think you would agree with me on that. That was the premise of my post.

              Believe me, I know the favorite verse of the non Christian is thou shall not judge. If we don’t judge how in the world are we supposed to discern what is righteous and unrighteous.

              For example:

              Ro 16:17 ¶ Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

              • badbadlibs

                Ok. got it. You’re right, I do agree we leave the destination of eternity to God. But, even in that we have a clue. ;)

              • ConservativeCool

                You have it exactly right. There is a form of judgement we can make about the specific behaviors of people, not about the people themselves. We’ve heard the adage before, love the sinner, hate the sin. Also, people need to learn that taking action to correct something is not the same as judging or hating. It is a very difficult line to walk at times and can only be properly done through the grace of Jesus Christ.

            • 911Infidel

              There’s a better one:

              “Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life.”

              1 Cor 6:3

          • FreeManWalking

            Does one have to requested forgiveness, before being forgiven? I think YES.

            If you continue reading vs 23-35 as Christ speaks in a parable the servants begs for forgiveness and another chance to pay the debt. vs 32 answers…

            “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’

            The Master forgave because the servant begged or asked the master to.

            Otherwise forgiving for forgiveness sake would need NO parable to demonstrate. A person forgiven wouldn’t need to know they have wronged or even been forgiven. Christ Blood could atone for all without anyone requesting the atonement from God.

          • searcher0

            “When we cast judgement on others, it’s like we’re telling God that we want to be in His seat. ” well he ain’t doing such a good(sic) job, maybe some one else should take over, some one who fully and completely understands the human condition, and no Jesus does not count he may be able to relate to us but he was never one of us, he can never completely and fully understand what it is to be human.

            • badbadlibs

              What you don’t know about the Word of God is everything.

        • ConservativeCool

          I believe Christ would want you to forgive them. As for working against their cause, that’s another story. One can do this without stooping to their level. You don’t have to hate to advance the cause of truth.

          • badbadlibs

            We can’t forgive someone who hasn’t directly done something to us. Understanding God’s word is so very important. Go back and read what Peter asked.

            “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me?” Matthew 18 21-23

            • ConservativeCool

              Peters question about people who sin against him was not a statement of exclusion saying you can have hard feelings against someone who has sinned against you. I’ve read (and loved) those words many times and will continue to do so.

              You need to forgive not only people who sin against you but anyone at all who you might have hard feelings towards. Name your favorite bad guy. Search your heart for bad feelings towards him (or her). Do you have any? Then you need to forgive them. Those bad feelings in your heart constitute a “quarrel” against someone. Though they may not have sinned against you, there remains a bitter hateful feeling in your heart.

              “…if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.”

              Colossians 3:13

              • badbadlibs

                I was being specific, nobody but those directly affected by actions of the westboro people have the power to forgive what they are doing.
                How I feel about them isn’t the discussion.

                • ConservativeCool

                  Again, its an internal question. The need to forgive only exists when you have a grudge or a bone to pick with someone. Directly affected or not is a lesser question, and may or may not come into play in a given situation, depending on whether hard feelings ever existed.

        • badbadlibs

          You can’t forgive the westboro devils. That’s an undue burden misunderstanding God’s Word produces.
          Peter asked Jesus:
          “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me?” (note the last part: sins against ME)
          It’s those grieving families who might have to face that terrible burden if these vile people do what they say. Ever wonder how people can even begin to forgive? It’s not in our power, God gives the grace when needed and those who need it.
          We don’t have it in our power to forgive those who do nothing against us personally.

        • searcher0

          and i think God is amazingly hypocritical he commits and allows the most heanous atrocities and yet i am worthy of death for the slightest indiscretion.

          • badbadlibs

            God allows you free will. He paid the price in full for your slightest and largest indiscretion. Again, you have free will to accept or reject.
            If God then picked who can and who can’t exercise free will, you would be calling Him unfair.

            • searcher0

              god gave us free will, but he is not willing to accept that some people just will not choose him, this is a sham, if i chose to do some thing that is not in god’s will yet causes no harm to anyone, not even my self, why does he get so bent out of shape that he feels he should destroy me? and why can’t he just make his will known to us? no he uses cryptic phrases and bizzar immages that no one can interprept with any degree of accuracy then he wants to kill us because we couldn’t get the massage. he gave the Jews laws that he himself could not keep, yet condemns them to death for not keeping them, example- thou shalt not kill- then he kills david’s first born son because the baby, being born out of wedlock, would bring shame on god’s name, well what did that baby do to deserve to be killed? he is petty, capricious, self centered, and selfish. he tempted Eve with the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil then throws Adam and her out of the garden, and before you say – no it was the serpent- god is supposed to know every thing so he put that tree in the garden knowing that Eve would fail the test and since nothing happens unless god allows it then we must conclude that it was his will for her to fall.

              • badbadlibs

                Like I said, what you don’t understand about God is everything.
                You’ve insulted not only my beliefs but that of many on this site. If you want an excuse to slam God, you will have to find another outlet.

                • searcher0

                  what have i replied up there that is not the truth? does god believe in ‘do as i say and not as i do’? God can not fully understand what it is to be human, Jesus may hav lived with us for 33 odd years, but he was not one of us, i have been taught in church that Jesus could have sinned but i say not true, if Jesus was God in the flesh, sin is acting contrary to the will of God, so anything that Jesus did was His will, i.e. God’s will. I am sorry if you feel that i insulted your beleifs, but if they can not withstand this kind of scrutiny maybe you should re-evaluate them.

                • badbadlibs

                  If it was honest “scrutiny” you would have a point. You just want a punching bag and a place to convince yourself you’re not hell bound. Take it some place else, you couldn’t possibly shake my faith.

                • searcher0

                  oh, don’t misunderstand me, i know where i am going when i die, and it ain’t where the pearly gates shine, but at least i will have my integrity. and yes, this is an honest scrutiny, are we not bound by the Good Samaritan priciple, why is God not? and to refute your next statement, who’s free will would God be violating if He sent some rain over to drought stricken Africa? and i can name a few people in the Bible who God had no problem with violating their free will, Jonah comes to mind, Balaam, even King David when he wanted to build God a house of worship. and instead of telling me to go away, refute what i am saying, i am an intelligent logical person who has a problem believing contrary explanations, show me my error without using contradictions.

                • badbadlibs

                  Acts 2:38

                • badbadlibs

                  I just want to say one more thing to you and I will not respond hereafter.
                  I have been going thru a very difficult time, the nation is grieving and many others are experiencing a profound depth of grief and agony of soul, life and heart.
                  Millions of us lean on the God who you disparage and criticize and condemn. You are allowing yourself to be a tool of darkness, but even that won’t shake my faith nor others who love, depend upon and worship God whose Name Is Jesus.
                  And even more profound then that truth is that same God who you doubt, question, and feel free to call names that are uncalled for, still loves you in a manner that drove this Great Creator to an agonizing death on the Cross of Calvary. He did that for YOU. His love for you will never be shaken.
                  Believe that or reject it. But, I’m done here.

      • denbren52

        God shed His blood for everyone. But once you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit by attributing evil to God, you have forever rejected that gift of salvation. Surely, these people will burn in Hell eternally and the sooner the better.

        • badbadlibs

          Thank you for spelling out what blasphemy is…”attributing evil to God”.

          • John3_3

            The pharisees attributed the works of Christ to the devil. And since Jesus does all things through the power of the Holy Spirit, they were blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

      • warpmine

        They are already condemned for they are unbelievers of His Word.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joe.rupert.5 Joe Rupert

      Oh well, If they wanna talk shit like a B$%#! let them get hit like a b#*%&. The Westboros are absolutely worthless and in no way represent anything good or holy.

      • 911Infidel

        Spot on.

    • E. Lee Zimmerman

      Only if there are Hallmark Cards available for purchase as well.

      • 911Infidel

        What a fabulous idea. Take a picture….attach it to the card…mail it to a loved one in celebration of a truely special day. Nice.

    • warpmine

      At least Satan loves Westboro Baptist.

      • 911Infidel

        Yeah, he’s always in the market for more suckers…er I mean…chordwood for the fires of hell; of which he will one day be biggest yuletime log of them all.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQIGXRVWW5XRETNV25R4FATCOM ssenecal5000

      Very true
      The Westboro “baptist church” is not a church, its a team of left wing lawyers.
      They do not protect anyone gay , ever. They typically protest things that liberals hate…Christian Univerites, the military, the NRA. You will never see them at a gay bath house or outside a gay/lesbian center.
      Their websites have nothing on them about Jesus, John the Baptist or the New Testement. Only sparse out of context quotes from the Old Testement.
      Their schtick is to find people to sue. If Newtown doesnt allow them to a permit to protest, they will sue Newtown. If the citizens react they will sue them.

      • 911Infidel

        Man you are so accurate. Well done.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pamsn57 Pamela Savage Newton

    I don’t believe this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002694470470 WL Whitelight

    This is what people should be talking about,
    With the out cry over the murder of 20 children WHERE is the out rage for the legalized daily murder of 3,288 unborn US citizens called abortion? Abortion is a greater loss of life than all the victims of 9/11/01.

    Abortions per year: 1.2 million
    Abortions per day: 3,288
    Abortions per hour: 137

    Why do we find these gun control advocate are the same ones promoting legalized murder of unborn US citizens?
    If my God given, Constitutionally recognized right to life can be legally denied to me before I am born where does the stripping away of my other Constitutional rights stop?

    • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Stewie

      Why isn’t the “right” smart enough to throw that back in their faces? That would shut down their condescending accusatory BS in an instant.

    • BlueGood

      O’Bama fake crying…Alex Jones….

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        Crocodile tears… Any good actor can cry on demand… NObama the puppet is no different!

  • 1endtimes2020

    God is incapable of hating. He is not incapable of punishing to wake up sinful people, though. We bring problems upon ourselves by disobeyong God’s Commandments, which He gave us so we could be happy. Little children will rebel in disobedience against their parents when they don’t get what they want, and adults rebel against God’s Commandments when they don’t suit their own desires. It isn’t all that complicated.
    Those young people are not so much ‘sick’ as misguided and immature.
    When it comes to homosexual behaviour, though, the media is the enabler by supporting sodomy as being as equal in normalcy as heterosexuality.
    see http://www.narth.com and find out what a 30 year doctor research has to say about that topic. Ever hear of Sodom and Gomorrah?

    • Bucketheadbaptist

      Congratulations on being in nearly total agreement with the Phelps folks.

      I’ve heard about Sodom.

      It was not destroyed due to Homosexuality. That is a lie and a false testimony of scripture.

      The People of Sodom (it wasn’t just the men) were after the Angels for one reason… and it was the same reason God sent the flood in Genesis 6. Hybrids are not in God’s plan of redemption.

      • Conniption Fitz

        Homosexuality is NEVER approved in Scripture. There are numerous Scriptures against it. It is sin and sin = harm.

        Same sex attraction is a symptom, a conditioned emotional response that is unhealthy and never should be acted upon. People of the same sex should be friends, not lovers.

        Homosexuality = 44 times increased incidence of AIDS, 46 times increased incidence of all other STDs. Increased incidence of cancers, injuries, violence, depression, suicides, early death.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          I never said it was.

          You apparently have a reading comprehension problem. While Homosexuality is not approved of… NEITHER IS LYING and giving a FALSE WITNESS.

          • Watchman74

            Lying and baring false witness are not called abominations, there are apparently degrees to sin.

            • E. Lee Zimmerman

              Same thing with Kevin Bacon, you know.

      • Watchman74

        Umm they didn’t know they were angels and it doesn’t mention anything about women being involved, only men, Your reading way too much into it.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          Respectfully sir, You haven’t read enough.

      • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

        Hybrids…

        The angels do not have DNA… hybridization is not possible.

        The angels do not have the ability to reproduce… they do not need to reproduce.

        My understanding is that, biblically speaking, ’cause, other than that, what do I know, in Jesus the human race is a ‘new creation’ that is not corruptible… hybridization is not possible.

        But, as I said above, what do I know… and what do we know, right?

        Art

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          Art… spend just a little bit of time looking into Genesis 6. Particularly verses 1-4.

          This is not the only place the subject is mentioned however.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

        your phrase about scripture: (That was a lie and a false testimony of scripture). Clearly proves Satan is speaking through you, as Jesus warned Peter of the power of Satan. Since we know Satan spoke through Peter and then led Judas, these two being disciples of Christ on earth, so how much more Satan can speak through a person but also lead that person for his cause, when a person is without the power of defense of protection that comes from Jehovah G-D and Jesus Christ.
        Read the book of Jude, you may wish to pray about the reading before and after the reading.
        I remember a time when men believed in security in the holy idea, Let everyword of
        G-D (Jahovah) be true and everyman a liar, but now it seems many of the creation have turned to the words of Satan the great deceiver and his power to their complete delusion.
        Get your gead out of the bucket and into the Word of that brings you salvation, The Christian Bible.

        • wodiej

          Jesus said very little about homosexuality and last time I checked He didn’t write the Bible either-his disciples did. Each of them had their own personal opinions on different subjects. The Bible has a lot of things in it that people do not do today. The reason for that is because the Bible was written in a much different time and society. For example, one part of the Bible says disobedient sons should be stoned to death in the town square. I don’t see anyone doing that. It says the only thing from the water one can eat has to have fins and scales and we know that certainly is not true today.

          The bible says men shouldn’t lie with men but it doesn’t say anything about women lying with women. Most of what was said about homosexuals was done in Leviticus and that’s the most intolerant, judgmental garbage I’ve ever seen. You all have a right to your opinion but that is all it is.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

            2 Timothy 3:16-17, Clears up for Christians any doubt about the truth of Scripture.
            1 Peter 1:21 Clears up any doubt Christians have about prophecy.
            These words written in the Christian Bible are for Christians, not for a lost world living in sin, filled with hate, perversion, and envy, yet searching for hope. That’s exactly why Christ said to his disciples go througout the world teaching the gospel, bring the good news of salvation. Some seed will fall on good ground while other seeds will fall on shallow ground and some seed will fall on rocks.
            Every person when called, has a will, or right, to believe or refuse the call, and do what ever that person wants, but mankinds rejection and unbelief does not negate scripture no more than it nagates G-D Jehovah or Jesus Christ or their awesome power.
            The world is lost and without spiritual understanding given by the holy spirit.
            The only spirit the lost world has is the spirit of evil that comes from Satan and his legion. Hence we see throughout history the consenquences of that living evil.
            it is faith in Jesus Christ that brings salvation, not faith in the world of men to save himself.

          • 911Infidel

            Don’t take this personally. I’m not going to say that I have a degree in the subject.That would be an appeal to authority and a logical fallacy. This is just my exegesis.

            “The bible says men shouldn’t lie with men but it doesn’t say anything about women lying with women.”

            Read Romans 1:24-27.

            “Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

            Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”

            Oh and for others, before the angels made it to Sodom, God visited Abraham and wondered out loud if He should hide from Abraham the thing that He was about to do. Its obvious from the passage that there was a great deal of abominations going on in Sodom, Ghomorrah and the cities of the plain. It wasn’t just homosexuality, it was many other “ialities”.

            From the commentaries that I’ve read over the years it would appear that Sodom and the other cities were into murder, mahem, and every kind of perversion besides that.

            Those cities were not destroyed because people wanted to “know” Lot’s visitors (as in have sex with them), but because God has to punish sin and He could not find ten righteous people in that town…which was the bargain that God struck with Abraham.

          • badbadlibs

            concerning women lying with women:

            Romans 1:26-28

            26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

            28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

            You are the blind that Jesus spoke of and the damage that is being done is that you and whoever agrees will wind up in the same ditch.

          • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

            Wodiej I really have to disagree here. The men who wrote Scriptures yes, but they were inspired by God. Jesus is the Word, and you’ll notice how much He quoted Scripture. He always quoted Scripture, which as you said, was written hundreds of years before, in different times, yet He still found every word significant for His time. It’s the same thing. The Bible is God Breathed, and as is relevant for our time as it was when it was written.
            Jesus might not have said the word Homosexual, but he certainly reinstated that marriage is God ordained, between one man and one woman who become one.
            Leviticus might seem like garbage to you, but it’s the Word of God- one thing people who are going to truly follow Christ must realize we have to accept ALL of His Word, not just what we agree with.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          How’d you get to be an Admin?

          Telling people that “Satan is speaking through you”… doesn’t seem very Admin-like in your judgement skills.

          I’ve studied the issue quite thoroughly sir… and through the Bible. There is a severe error in the commonly accepted teaching that Sodom was destroyed due to Homosexuality.

          The verse that implies it in Genesis 19… is not confirmed anywhere else in scripture. There is no second witness to it. Meanwhile, there are SEVERAL verses that back up my assertion that a hybridization process was being attempted.

          Your Jude reference is one of the strongest witnesses to that. The term “strange flesh”… when examined in its original Greek translates to “Hetero” flesh… not “Homeo”.

          Meanwhile… Passages in Leviticus that forbade certain sexual practices AND not “passing your children through the fire” which was a reference to Molech worship ALSO support me.

          Sir… I’m not sure what brand of Christianity you practice… but perhaps hearing a matter before you judge it should be on your list of things to look into when you next study your bible. (Proverbs 18:13)

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

            Thanks BHB. It is clear when anyone is speaking the language of antichrist, they are part of the realm of Satan. Only Satan would ever declare a lie has been stated by a prophet or a disciple. I know you wouldn’t think so and I understand your frustration, but, the Christian bible is the breathed word of G-D with no lies.
            Judgement in rightousness is in scripture. The judgement you speak up and the world expects you to speak of is No Judgement At All, that is not scriptural, there is stated in scripture for Christian to have judegement but in rightous judgement for correction from sin for fellow Christians and the world.
            Would you have scripture fit your on understanding? with your on reasoning? which is no faith in the truth of holy scriptures, the word of G-d, then Jesus, and then all of thr Kings, princes in the bible who has declared the G-D Jehovah of the Jews as being the only Living g-D who has ever been able to do the wonders as he declared, such as Nebucadrezzar, pharaoh of Egypt?, the Roman impire, then last but first, the Jewish religous leaders of the day that feared G-D to the death and letter of the law? then you are outside the flock of Christ Jesus and G-D Jehovah.
            “As Christ said “It’s eaier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom og G-D. Are you rich in education? remember this, The bible is so deep but yet even a little child can swim it’s waters, but where even the learned are easily confounded by it’s teachings.
            And yes BHB, Satan still speaks through humans against G-D and Jesus the Christ, he does it load and clear every second of time.

            peace to you

            • Bucketheadbaptist

              Sir (or Ma’am)… respectfully,

              I believe your thought process has been clouded by whatever religious indoctrination you may have received in your formative years… so I’m not going to engage your invective accusations of my being the agent of Beelzebub or some such… and then following it up with a hypocritical “peace to you”.

              I hope one day… wherever you end up, that the room is decorated with Rainbows and Unicorns for you.

              • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

                I know because of the word of G-D and the saving blood of Jesus Christ I will be with Christ on earth or in heaven. I also know you can be there as well through your faith in the only son of Jesus Christ.

      • wodiej

        sounds like we have some Westboro baptists on this thread.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          Yes it does wodiej….

          But I’m sorry, I can’t go with you on your statement about the bible either. I do take it seriously. Your reference to the levitical system, really doesn’t help your case… as most of it was designed to protect the Messianic line from corruption and blood diseases.

          The prohibitions on certain meats… are broken down like this:

          Herbivores = OK to eat.
          Omnivores = NOT OK to eat.
          Carnivores = NOT OK to eat.

          Why? Because omnivores and carnivores consume the blood of their prey. In doing so, they tend to pick up blood diseases and parasites. There are many ocean dwelling fish today that are not safe to eat due to levels of mercury that have built up in their bodies from consuming and digesting OTHER fish in the ecosystem… and these are all fish who are described as being on the levitical “naughty” list.

          If you’ll remember the incidents of “Mad-Cow” disease from about 10 years ago… it was caused by Cows eating a new additive to their feed. dried sheep brains. It was a violation of the laws of nature when they tried to turn an Herbivore into a Carnivore… things did not turn out well.

          Leviticus is actually quite liberating in my opinion… once you understand it. Trouble is… most people read the judgemental parts and never ask “why?” There’s quite a bit of prophecy within its laws that point to the Messiah.

          And as far as the stoning an unruly son to death…

          Well… perhaps we should look at the “success rate” of our current juvenile correctional system in this country. While the real problem usually points to absentee fathers in this country…

          Making an example out of 1 or 2 of the most rebellious and dangerous of these in a community… probably would have sent just the right message to those young men of the community that had thoughts of entering the “thug life” back in the day.

          • badbadlibs

            The thing that most people do not understand, but you certainly do, is that all Scripture in one form or the other points to Christ. He is the sum total of all that is written in the Word of God.
            His coming is the filter. I appreciate your writings.

    • John3_3

      God is not incapable of hating. He loves the people of world, but there are some things God hates.

    • Bucketheadbaptist

      Who’s the dumb ass that clicked “like” on this?

      To that person… Are you out of your ever loving freaking mind?

      You want to “like” that 1endtimes is laying the murder of 20 children… on disobeying God’s commandments? You are absolutely Froot Loops.

      There’s a reason that Christianity sucks in this nation now… you would be part of that reason.

      • 1endtimes2020

        You misunderstand my comment. You can figure out what I meant since you’re so clever. What ‘sucks’ are people who deny the Bible’s teachings from Jesus Christ. America was well protected before people like you spewed out their venom against the Christian heritage that made America the greatest country in the world.
        If you think your unhappy with Christianity, wait until the Communists take over.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

          BHB, is being led by one of the legion, it is the legion speaking through him. They know their time is short as they also know the protective spirit of G-D is slowly being removed from the earth, so it’s only natural the legions are in a high state of panic.
          What we see only gets worse, but prayer is the protection for the saints of Christ. Murdered or alive Christians win in this battle between good and evil, through Christ.
          In his book chapter 24; Mathew tells us the words of Jesus Christ, those words are the words to give all Christians peace and comfort while we wait.
          Things will only get worse, much worse.

          • Bucketheadbaptist

            Giving False Testimony against a neighbor.

            I believe that’s on the top 10 list.

            I forgive you. Try not to continue though… okay?

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

              I appreciate your reply.

          • 1endtimes2020

            Thank you for our comment.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          You do not know me.

          I do not speak against our Christian heritage… I speak against foolish teaching and biblical illiteracy. I do not accept the “standard” teaching about Sodom… because it is not supported by the rest of scripture.

          However… the destruction of genetic hybrids… is.

          Whenever God gets personally involved in a killing… there are reasons. Most of us were taught early on in Sunday School that these reasons were because of “immorality” starting with Genesis 6 and onward. Unfortunately… this was not a true witness to our Creator’s modus operandi.

          In Genesis 3… he declared open war on the “Shining One”… and his seed.

          The Old Testament is riddled with His execution upon any attempt to infiltrate the line that would produce “the seed of the woman”… up to and including the time of David. (see Goliath… a hybrid being)

          After David, the attempt to infiltrate the Messianic line did not stop… but God changed the way he dealt with it. (Which is why the “begats” in Matthew 1 are different in Luke 3).

          NOW… WHY am I being incredibly belligerent to you on this subject? Because currently the advances in Biotechnology and “Transhumanism”… are pushing us toward a new age of Hybrid beings to rival that of Genesis 6… (as in the days of Noah), and do you know who’s driving this bus? The United States Military Industrial Complex.

          According to the Scripture… for the Messiah to be our Kinsman Redeemer… he must be a Kinsman of Adam. (Check.)

          For us to be Redeemed… we must also be Kinsmen.

          The enemy failed to stop the coming of the Redeemer. But… if he can corrupt us away from being made in the image of God, into his image… his seed, his genetics… and make us something that is no longer human, no longer able to be redeemed. Then he has a strategy to undo the redemption of the Cross.

          Friend… I do not support the lifestyle of Homosexuality at all. Most of the ones I know of personally… have had a very poor relationship, or NO relationship with the ONE THING that Christianity has to offer them…. A loving Father. Should we as Christians, stand in the doorway to prevent these prodigals from coming home to him… or should we go and fetch them home?

          You gave a link to Narth.com in an earlier post. I’ve heard Dr. Nicolosi speak in person, and have studied his work very much. I attended and volunteered at a “Love Won Out” conference in Nashville… and it opened my eyes to the destruction that the ENEMY has brought upon these people, NOT God.

          Romans 1 is not a judgement on Homosexuality… Read it carefully, Romans 1 is a judgement on a nation that has turned its back on God as its Creator. God declares judgement on that nation by giving it OVER to Homosexuality. The United States will not be judged because of Homosexuality… the United States IS BEING JUDGED, and the Homosexual Activists ARE the instrument of that judgement.

          We have them, because of the expulsion of God from our nation’s Academia.

          You and I are not enemies. I’m on your side.

          But I am not going to support the vileness of those who have become “tinkling cymbals” of noise… that even non believers have clearly pointed out are not worthy to be called representatives of the Most High.

          Should you wish… I can be contacted at: bucketheadbaptist(at symbol)gmail.com

          • 1endtimes2020

            I appreciate your comments. Let’s just leave it at that.

            • Bucketheadbaptist

              Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you. I respect your time that you’ve offered me.

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

              1endtimes2020, i understand letting it go and moving on, many times it’s the best thing to do when all else fells.
              Thank you for your ever loving faith in our lord Jesus Christ.
              But BHB said Scripture lies, that’s is he lied, stated by Satan through him, that which has nothing to do with the salvation by the blood of Jesus Christ. His statement is blasphemy against the words of Jehovah G-D and Christ. He can not have it both way’s. He is dead wrong. Scripture is clear about his sort. there is no debate about the truth of the word of G-D stated in the scripture in the Christian Bible.
              He can move on we’re standing firm in the faith.

              best to you my friend in Christ.

              • Bucketheadbaptist

                You have a serious reading comprehension problem. I never said Scripture lies.

                And you are a broken record on this Satan speaking through me thing.

                I bet you are real fun at parties.

                Here’s the copy and paste of what I said:

                “It was not destroyed due to Homosexuality. That is a lie and a false testimony of scripture.”

                That does NOT say scripture lied… I said the claim that Sodom was destroyed due to Homosexuality is a lie… and a false testimony OF scripture. MEANING… MEN have falsely testified OF scripture concerning this subject.

                Why? Because Christians find it easier to blame the Homos for all of societies problems than it is to accept that there are malevolent Angelic beings at work in the world… and they don’t have our best interest in mind.

                Learn to READ.

                You want to have some real fun? Here’s one for you… the term “Sodomite”… is a MADE UP ENGLISH WORD. It NEVER appears in the Hebrew or Greek in reference to Homosexuality… NEVER.

                • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

                  Thanks BHB, but I remind you of your exact words which caught my attention:
                  (That was a lie and a false testimony of scripture)
                  I’m glad you are willing to back off your statement the scripture lies and has a false testimony, But your play on words that discredit Christian Scripture is wrong and a very dangerous adventure.
                  As far as the rest of your statement(s) are concerned, I appreciate your feedback.

          • badbadlibs

            That made a boat load of sense. I need to study this out on my own as well.

            • Bucketheadbaptist

              Thanks for the kind words.

              I could suggest some material for you… but I’d suggest to start with the book of Ruth… and find a really good teacher.

              Someone that understands the intricacies of the laws dealing with the Messianic and Royal lineages of the Old Testament… After David, they aren’t the same. There’s a reason for this.

              Makes a good Christmas bible study.

              • badbadlibs

                The last really good teacher I had was when I lived in Idaho. Our pastor had also been a professor at a great Bible College. Do I ever miss that kind of teaching.
                It’s fascinating to learn about the hows and whys of what God does and says.

                • Bucketheadbaptist

                  That’s interesting… my bible teacher lived in Idaho until just recently.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        Easy Bucketheadbaptist.

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          Will do.

          I usually refrain from name calling.

          Usually.

      • crosshr

        I did, I promise you if you wanna check my arse, it’s very very smart, hah !

        • Bucketheadbaptist

          No thanks.

          Not even with Fred Phelps’ hands.

    • mike3e4r7

      What does the murder of 26 innocent people have to do with homosexuality?

      • 1endtimes2020

        Homosexual living is only ONE of the immoral sins destroying America.Porn and the many other constant offenses against God brings enemies to work to destroy America.
        In the case of Newtown. the gunman was obviously a sick person. But why does a sick person have access to guns, and what is it that influenced his mind to the insensitive killings of children—the future of America.
        Do you think 50 billion abortions havem helped to protect America?
        More and more we see our leaders ignore sin, and God’s commandments. They work instead for a man-made New World Order. Sovereignty is sacrificed in stealth. No political party campaigns for a new world order, and the loss of sovereignty. Today we have the U.N.’s “agenda 21″ working inside the country. It is something that will control every aspect and decision of everyone’s life.
        This is the work of the enemy caused by sin—-It’s sin that leads to someone attacking children in schools.
        Now Obama will try to disarm Americans from being able to defend themselves. Obeying God is the best protection America can have.
        Surely, you must see the evidence of the connection of sin and consequences of sin. Homosexual sodomy is one of the worse possible sins that people can do to offend God. Sex is intended for love and to populate new souls to serve God, not for ‘love’ of lust that slaps the face of God.

        • mike3e4r7

          I’m aware of the sinfulness in our society. Of course there will always be sin in this earthly world, but sinfulness has become mainstream in our culture over the last approx. 50 years. I was questioning your apparent support of the Phelps cult in celebrating this horrific massacre. If I was wrong in interpreting your comments as agreeing with the sentiment of the Westboro protestors, then my bad. If I was not wrong then you and I are at odds.

          • 1endtimes2020

            Mike, I don’t know who Phelps is, or the cult, as you say it is. I’m only commenting from 50 years of experience, when Christianity was dominant, and we were protected from outside enemies.
            Since our liberalized society, we have gone downhill so much that our enemies are now within our borders. I’m a traditional Catholic. By that, I mean I have not been liberalized as the Catholic Church has with Vatican 2 in the early 60s. Popes throughout the centuries warned against liberalizing, and the slippery slope. Since Vatican 2, the Church has been infiltrated by those who want to destroy it from within, just as America is beginning to understand is now happening to the country. This is much worse than the Tojan Horse infiltrators. There is hope, however. Visit http://www.fatima.org and start with the DVD “Heavens Key to Peace”, which explains an event that took place in 1017. This will help you to understand my position.

  • John3_3

    Someone may be killed over this…

    • crosshr

      not God’s fault ! lol

  • badbadlibs

    satan comes in all forms and fashions. These people are spawned out of the pit of hell.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJYM277N7VJNF772U6DUVQKHAE TIMERUNNER

      they are control by the legion and their leader.

  • Conniption Fitz

    The Westboro cult went to Texas to protest at a military funeral and strangely, all their tires were flat and their gasoline tank had acquired a lot of condensation when they got back to their van, so it had to be towed, but the people at the repair place were out of parts and there were none available in town, so they could not fix it. Van had to be towed all the way back home… hmm.

    • 911Infidel

      Yeah, and they protested at some Lesbian soldier’s funeral and one of the military guys there proceeded to run past the cops and deck one of the Westboro sign holders. He crushed the b@$t#$d but good. That’s the right way to treat slimeballs like Westboro.

      I heard about the town that you mentioned too.Kudos to them as well.

    • crosshr

      and that’s Gods’ judgement ??? lol

      I am laughing my arse off from the story on what happened to their vans, sorry can’t help it, it’ very funny what happened. so cute

  • proudhispanicconservative

    Another horrible situation being made worst. Mean while back in Washington Boehner has just caved in, adding tax increases to his now collection of caving in. I think there is going to be a civil war in the republican party
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/15/Boehner-caves-tax-hike

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      oh for crying out freaking loud.

    • crosshr

      No, now that’s very dumb a million times

  • mike3e4r7

    Next time a Westboro church member passes away, maybe it’s time the rest of us picket their funeral with celebratory signs about God’s judgement, etc.

    • Haywoodjbl

      EXCELLENT IDEA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    These innocent teachers and children are with Jesus now and I would hate to see the judgement he gives these Westboro church people, only hope for mercy but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ajtelles Art Telles

    Twisted thinking…

    The children of the Westboro Baptist’s are being taught to hate.

    Is there a law against that?

    No.

    Otherwise, there would be a law against Islam teaching it’s children to hate… ’cause the Quran, the Muslim ‘how-to-be-holy-book,’ teaches the children to hate… and kill, ALL who will not submit to Allah and evewn Muslims who want to convert away from Islam.

    So, there go the children, of Islam and the Westboro Bapitist’s… another generation down the drain.

    Art

  • FutureOnePercent

    In discussing this, it’s important to remember that the pastor is a Democrat and even ran for office as a Democrat.

    Who are the lunatics now?

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Prime example of what happens when people are inbred. This so called congregation is pathetic. Blind, hateful pathetic fools who will have an interesting time come Judgement day.

  • RobertMahoney

    If God would open the earth and swallow these douche-knuckles alive, I think I might convert to Christianity.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      Don’t convert to a religion Robert… learn about Christ from His Word. Too many religions who claim His Name already and drive people away. Learn from Him, and follow Him.

      • wodiej

        Amen to that.

        • las1

          Your previous comments fly in the face of your Amen. What gives?

          You reject Old Testament laws. You took Leviticus only at face value, not understanding the importance of the “law” juxtaposed with God’s later revealed grace) yet you do an Amen to Jesus.

          The Old Testament prophet that Jesus gave almost front and centre reference to was Jonah… a man swallowed by a really big fish. If you show little respect of Leviticus, wouldn’t you also show little respect for a “big fish” story… yet you do an Amen to Jesus the very man who understood Leviticus best and who referenced a silly story like Jonah. And you reject the scripture as man made and called Leviticus.. .what was it again… oh yeah… “most intolerant, judgmental garbage”.

          I’m sorry Wodiej… you just gotta be consistent. You can’t have it both ways.

          Might I suggest that these internal contradictions you bring to the Lord and just ask him very simple like… “What gives here Lord? I see apparent contradictions. Help me Lord.”

          You see Wodiej, the scripture is not made for the mind specifically… it’s made for the spirit. Once you receive his Spirit, both the mind and Spirit work together and you you will have an “I see the light” moment.

      • Marridge

        Absolute best advice ever!

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          10000 Likes!!!! for both ABiC and Maddige’s posts!!!

    • 911Infidel

      I sympathize. This kind of crud almost makes a person want to doubt God don’t it? I don’t. The nature of sin is what it is….evil. Freedom in God’s economy is what allows people to choose evil over good.

      Me, I could never be an atheist or an agnostic, but I can understand why there are so many.

      Not to worry. All a44holes will have their day of recompense,,,either in this life or in the next.

    • las1

      Islam makes converts. Christ makes disciples. But sadly, even too many Christians don’t understand that.

      Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations… Matt. 28:19

      Disciple literally means a learner, a pupil. Converts belong to an ideology like Islam, but Christians are supposed to be followers of the living Son of God. It’s a process that is accomplished first by receiving Jesus and his Holy Spirit. This is then followed up by a transformation process called the renewing of the mind. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. (Rom. 12:2).

      Being a Christian is hard, the process of renewal is not perfect. And everything in this world, everything in our flesh and everything in hell itself comes against us to destroy the process and make Christians look pathetic, weak and foolish,,, including the behaviour of many Christians themselves.

      Euseubius the early Bishop of Caesarea, (314 AD) the first Christian historian, in his book History of the Church, gives us a very good picture of what real discipleship looked like under real persecution. Those early Christians were the real measure of Christianity. I believe such persecution is slated to happen again to conform us to Christ’s image and character.

      The only perfect thing we get from God is His Spirit. That will be as perfect now as it will be in eternity. That’s the “all things become new” that Paul talks about in 1 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

      But are our bodies now new? No. Are our souls and hearts now new? No. Our body remains imperfect till full redemption, and the same goes for our soul and our hearts. Our minds, our hearts, our souls are slowly transformed until total redemption. Only our spirits are new hence, the new birth.

      • colliemum

        Very well said, las1 – especially the point you make about discipleship.
        Yes, it is hard, yes it is difficult, but when one has taken the first steps, it is inconceivable to turn back, all difficulties and tears notwithstanding.

        GK Chesterton, as usual, has it right when he says “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.”

        • las1

          “it is inconceivable to turn back, all difficulties and tears notwithstanding.”

          Oh so so true. Excellent choice of words these: “all difficulties and tears notwithstanding.” True true true there colliemum.

  • Nukeman60

    People always reap what they sow. These people preach hatred for their fellow man and hatred is all they’ll get in return. It will fester inside of them until it rots them from the inside out.

    What a sad, sad waste of space and valuable oxygen.

    • 3seven77

      “It will fester inside of them until it rots them from the inside out.

      Nuke, I think that’s already happened.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Kawasaki/1798183858 Dave Kawasaki

    LEOs in Newtown should contact Sheriff Pendleton of Rankin County, Mississippi for tips on dealing with these vermin.

  • Yazz55

    Welcome to Obama’a fundamentally changed America

    … never let a good tragedy go to waste

    & When does the Tea Party get blamed for it?

  • wodiej

    Very sad. I believe not only will people block them from protesting, I think they will be getting a good scare.

    • tinlizzieowner

      These pansys may find themselves with a Rolling Thunder, Nam Nights, motorcycle club ‘escort’. Can’t confirm that, right this moment.
      ;-) ;-)

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        OH how I wish!!!!!

        • tinlizzieowner

          Let me put it ths way. I don’t have this information from high enough in the ‘chain of command’ (so to speak) to be able to confirm or deny it. All these people in Sandy Hook want, is to be left alone to grieve in peace and there is ‘discussion’ about this becomng more of an addition to the ‘media event’, than this has already become.

          • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

            These WBC… I can’t type it… I’ll get banned from this site if I do… but I hope they get what they deserve… That I can safely type I think….

          • badbadlibs

            It would be awesome if somehow the westboro devils found themselves being protested just at the time they were planning on leaving their hell on earth places of residences.

          • Orangeone

            I’m afraid they won’t be left alone, Barky Boy is on his way for his photo ops and surely mooochier will be there to capitalize for her 2016 run.

            • tinlizzieowner

              It never ceases to amaze me how fast he can move when he’s got an event he can capitalize on. Now Benghazi with the slaugthter of 4 Americans (with a gun), or a Marine rotting in a Mexican jail (over a phony gun charge), or ‘Fast and Furious’, with the murder of a Border Patrol Agent (with a gun) or the trial of Maj. Nidal for the Fort Hood slaughter (with a gun),? Well…………….

              • Orangeone

                This politicization of this school shooting makes me want to vomit.  If I were a parent, I would have stood up at that vigil and screamed at him to take his photo op somewhere else and leave my family to mourn our loss.  It is the lowest of the lows to behave as he is doing, but his narcissism will not allow ANYONE or ANYTHING to have publicity unless he is the MAIN ATTRACTION.  Not only that, he is encouraging the copycats going on because they want their share of the spotlight.

                • tinlizzieowner

                  I’m a news ‘junkie’. My TV is usually on Fox News. Through my education and degree in Journalism, I’m firmly aware that the first rule is “If it bleeds, it leads”. I haven’t watched any news since the day after this tragedy, because the constant Regurgitation of this story by all the networks, makes me sick.

                • Orangeone

                  Saw this from White531 and sDee.  Barky Boy is responsible!!!!!

                  Obama Administration Killed “Readiness and Emergency Management” Funding for Schools http://frontpagemag.com/2012/d

                • tinlizzieowner

                  Well, how else could he promote his gun control ‘agenda’ if crazy fools couldn’t get into schools with guns.
                  “Obama Message to Newtown and America: ‘We Will Have to Change’ “.
                  His boy Holder laid it out the other day in a speech when he said “We will have to re-think our liberties and rights.” Even holder can count to 2. Second Amendment ‘rights’, that is.
                  ;-) ;-)

                • Orangeone

                  And to get to #2 you have to go through #1.  I fear he is going to shut down the Internet so conservatives cannot work together to defeat his evil intentions.  BTW, Nukeman60 wants to start a dossier on what’s been happening (on another thread) and I suggested he collaborate with you!

                • tinlizzieowner

                  Glad to help where I can. 11 last night to 7 this morning at work and 4pm to 8 today at the museum. It’s a good thing you didn’t come up today. They held the ‘Festival of Lights’ boat parade in Charlotte Harbor tonight, and traffic was a disaster, it’s nap time for me. ;-)

                • Orangeone

                  Busy man and a great man!  It will be a very long trip for me to the museum, I’m in MN, but I’ll get there someday.  But ABinC is visiting soon I hear.  Sounds like a beautiful parade!

                • tinlizzieowner

                  Oops, got it backwards. Canada’s closer to MN and oranges, Florida, well you know. ;-)

                • Orangeone

                  ROFL my dear friend!

      • badbadlibs

        I cannot imagine that these vile people will get anywhere near the funerals of the victims of this horrendous crime.
        The entire nation is mourning over the loss of so many little 6 and 7 year old children in such a violent manner. It’s unspeakable and however these people are stopped doesn’t much matter, but they won’t get within a hundred miles of this town. I don’t know how that will be accomplished, but I’m sure it will.

        • tinlizzieowner

          The Westboro Baptist Church is a family of lawyers. Somebody getting in the way of their ‘Free Expression’ is exactly what they are looking for. Now me, I’d rather see a few dozen big, hairy, Bikers deliver a pizza to every one of their houses about 2:00 AM and then, just ride away, (think of Obama’s boy Rahm Emanuel and his dead fish).
          :-) ;-)

  • Indiana

    I say we protest them, that would be us defending ourselves from stupidity.

  • ThoughtOfReason

    These people are worshiping the wrong GOD. my God Loves people.

  • Rocco11

    These people should be in a Zoo exhibit right next to the Gorillas eating their own feces…

  • ThoughtOfReason

    These people are tricked into worshiping the WRONG god. My God Loves people. This is hateful. The god of this world-satin, as the god of hate.

  • celestiallady

    If I lived near the school I would be right out there. I hope the town gathers together to keep them away.

    • Landscaper

      I dare say, they won’t get within the city limits.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    Remember when you were in school and you had friends that were a “little odd”… Wouldn’t you have known which were a “little too odd” and tried to talk with them and if that didn’t work you’d tell “someone” to make sure “nothing stupid” happened? I sure do…

    What’s wrong with kids today? Every interview we get the “he’s a great guy” and “I’m shocked” answers… And I”m thinking… If you bothered to take your stupid nose out of your gadget and look around and use that thing God gave you called a brain for a few seconds… But no!

    When I was going to school, I, and all the rest knew about the “weird few” and so did the teachers… Yet NOW, it’s like a capital crime to suggest that “soandso” is a possible dangerous psychopath!

    Remember when teachers would be thankful to students for alerting them to potential nutsbags? Now that student is likely to be suspended for “being intolerant”

    Such is the state of Libtardism schooling today!

    RIP Common Sense… Hail! Politically Correctness Stupidity!!!

    • badbadlibs

      Well said, Wolfie.

    • Orangeone

      When we were in school Wolfie, there were less liberal lawyers. Now there are telephone books full of them looking to make a name for themself with a class action lawsuit.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    I see the Church of SATAN is about spreading hate and disgust! If a drone bomb fell on their “church” while they were all inside… I’d find myself fighting back the urge to laugh out loud! I’m just saying…

    • tinlizzieowner

      I can’t say I’d be fighting back the urge, Wolfie. ;-)

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        Caught me… I was just pretending to be polite… I’d be having a party! There… Happy now? :-)

  • armyvet10

    I have read through most of the posts here on the subject on God hating, and hate in general. Before anyone confuses me for a pastor, I am not. I often tell my daughter that going to church is more for me than anyone else in my family. Let me also say that I have read the King James Version of the bible as well as the NIV (New International Version) and several passages from my student study bible as well. With all of this being said, I wish to impress to anyone that would read this I am neither prophet nor can I readily quote scripture. Proverbs 6:16 – 19 describes six things God hates. Like so many I have to take great care in the context in which the bible is written; and to any who listens, speaks. The verses that precede 6:16 -19 set the mood to what these three verses speak about. In all I try to remember with all my mind and heart the simple rule that tells everyone exactly how we should deal with each other; that would be the golden rule. (Luke 6:31) I also remember reading Jesus telling us simple humans to not judge a person from his words, or even taking great caution in judging on deeds done in public. Jesus instead tells us to see a man (this covers all of mankind) through the deeds or fruits of their heart.
    Peace to those who lost family, friends, and those that make living without, impossible. To those that point this to God’s hate, I pray that God will touch their heart in a way that will enable their mind to hear and understand the truth. To all I pray for the comfort that comes from God’s hand. Pray that we all are forgiven, and when we fail we have the best mediator possible, the son of God. We are all human and fall short of God’s standards and glory, yet it is through forgiveness that one can see the full power of what God calls love.
    Peace!

    • crosshr

      thank you armyvet10 for this sound reminding of us all that all fall short of His Glory.

      The greatest miracle of all I’ve found is salvation of my soul ( Acts 2:38 )The forgiveness power that saves me and would always do my best to chanel out through me tho I fail many times.

      • armyvet10

        Thanks crosshr, like so many, I often get caught up in the anger of a situation and forget my own short comings. While we must look to eradicate evil where and when we can, we must remember that we are all called to take the higher road. It is often a hard path to follow and like many, I can struggle. Still, even when we fail we must know that God knows our hearts true intent and seeks to help us succeed in a way that honors him and glorifies us in his love and guidance. Stay strong in God’s love and strength, and may the peace of God shade your home.

        • crosshr

          Amen !
          thanks for being a better person than myself !

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    There are times when I was strongly drawn to join the Catholic Church as a Priest… Ultimately I decided I was not good enough… I also wanted to have a wife and a “normal life” But I still hold a place in my heart for the priesthood, should it ever call me again… But as long as I live… I will NEVER EVER support such a an obvious SATANIC CHURCH as this disgusting excuse for a “Christian Church” which give ALL good Christians reason to balk!!! Just saying…

    Sadly, expect the ultra anti-Christian websites and news (MSNBC, Hello?) to exploit these nutcases (for that is what they are) to demonize all us good Christians and Catholics…

    • las1

      Stick with scripture there Wolfie then you can’t go wrong. You are already a priest:

      But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1 Peter 2:9

      • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

        “You are already a priest” I think my local Catholic Priest might have issues with that! Though I appreciate the suggestion. :-)

        • las1

          Why would you not go first to the Word. I have no doubt that your priest would have issues with that. But unfortunately your priest’s issue is not only with the scriptures, but with what Peter himself says in those scriptures. How ironic is that!

          But of course, this just highlights the differences between the authority of scripture and the authority of Roman tradition. I don’t want to be combative here, but our defense is in the Word, not traditions of men.

          We could save ourselves so much grief if we understood where real authority for our Christian life lies. I know there will never be agreement with my Roman friends, but isn’t there more comfort to be in agreement with the Grace of the Word rather than the sacramental flow chart.

  • http://navalwarfare.blogspot.com/ Libertyship46

    This is how riots start. These people really, really, need to stay home. If not, A LOT of angry people in Connecticut are going to literally attack them, and I really can’t blame them.

    • cabensg

      It’s called freedom of speech. As souless and hateful as it is they’re a small group of pitiful misfits with signs. I find it hard to be outraged by a bunch of losers when we have an actual sociopath for president along with a vile lying press who will do more damage in one month than these sorry excuses can do in their whole life.

      • crosshr

        I like you mindset cab. well put

  • ApplePie101

    Why give these trolls publicity? Let them be ugly in obscurity.

  • Landscaper

    If the shoe was on the other foot and it were their little children laying in a pool of blood, what would Westboro say then?

    What would Christians do, go protest their tragedy? I think not.

    • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

      Them sick bastards would probably proclaim it a blessing from god (small g)! They are those kind of people we used to keep locked away in institutions before… And should consider locking up again!!!

      • Landscaper

        I think God, Christian and Church is a complete FRAUD with Westboro. They are evil and Godless people.

        • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

          NO argument here my Landscaping friend!

        • tx_gold

          Doofus. Don’t judge Christians by the westboro nuts. Why do think there are so few in their tiny little church?

          • Landscaper

            I didn’t compare the two!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read closer…… they are a FRAUD. There is nothing about them that says god, christ or church. They are a FRAUD.

        • crosshr

          many times Landscaper, most ugly thorns exists with most beautiful sweet smelling ROSE ! Life may be so unfair, still God work in a mysterious way

          The Sandy school children were attacked and are now REST IN PEACE IN THEIR MAKERS ARM. These Baptist Protesting kids are also spiritually dead although still walking, and need to be set free from this burden of hate and high minded spirit, holier than you spirit.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    TEA PARTY Conservatives! THIS is a TIME!! Go out there! STAND Against this EVIL! Shun these bastards, mock them! Marginalize them! Show them up for the sick sad, sacks of horse manure they truly are!

    Show these poor families that REAL Americans, of good honest intent feel their grief… Are saddened in their souls and hearts for them!

    Please guys… Do what you MUST to keep these Satanic POS away from the innocent families of the victims of true EVIL!!

    Now, everyone who reads this… Please stop whatever you are doing… And just pray for a minute to God for the innocent souls of the victims… And their families who must live with this horror! And if you can find it in your being… To pray to God to throw the shitbag of a killer into Hell to be eternally punished! Each day a new torture!!! NEVER to be redeemed !!!

    Fly our flag, the US flag.. Fly our Gadsden flag!! Defiance is the new Patriotism!

    • TimeForAnarchy

      Yes Sir, you are correct. The silent majority must not remain silent any longer.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    TEA PARTY Conservatives! THIS is a TIME!! Go out there! STAND Against this EVIL! Shun these bastards, mock them! Marginalize them! Show them up for the sick sad, sacks of horse manure they truly are!

    Show these poor families that REAL Americans, of good honest intent feel their grief… Are saddened in their souls and hearts for them!

    Please guys… Do what you MUST to keep these Satanic POS away from the innocent families of the victims of true EVIL!!

    Now, everyone who reads this… Please stop whatever you are doing… And just pray for a minute to God for the innocent souls of the victims… And their families who must live with this horror! And if you can find it in your being… To pray to God to throw the shitbag of a killer into Hell to be eternally punished! Each day a new torture!!! NEVER to be redeemed !!!

    Fly our flag, the US flag.. Fly our Gadsden flag!! Defiance is the new Patriotism!

  • tx_gold

    GOD ALL MIGHTY!!!!!!!!!!!! Those people need an attitude adjustment.

  • http://twitter.com/SwTkthe1 Matthew Sullivan

    WTF is wrong with these people?! Cant really call them human.

  • http://tinyurl.com/wwsotu Wolfie

    Veteran biker gang protects the funeral of a fallen soldier 3/5/11

    “The Patriot Guard have ARRIVED!”

    Let the same Patriots protect the family of the victims of this evil! God willing! If you are one of those Patriots reading this, first thank you… Next get out there and do what you do to make sure those poor family do NOT have to even see those scum sucking satanic wastes of air and their heartless evil signs of evil!!! God Bless you!

  • Haywoodjbl

    The REALLY bad and (this will sound bad) good news is that these people are allowed to procreate and instill this same vile thinking into young minds…..

    Those talking about “turning the other cheek” are better than I. I would turn the bat loose on a few of their heads. Of course not literally but they could use a could azz whupping

  • physicsnut

    The wackos are coming out of the closet – seems to be all the rage. In that spirit, some idiot at The Economist weighs in that the only solution is to take away all the guns. I guess he did not study what happened when the population is disarmed .. but oh, what tyrants do is “legal” because they pass the laws.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rick.mills.718 Rick Mills

    These people need to be beaten senseless.

    • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

      That’s my feeling too. At some point the vile perversions of these hateful people become so extreme that we move beyond mere rhetoric and move to fists. These A-holes need to be beaten to a pulp.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jesse.benedict.50 Jesse Benedict

    Sing praise for the deaths of innocent children? You are in no way christains when you praise tragedies. Your a pathetic, pitiful excuse for a church body.

  • http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon

    Maybe someone should get these people a one way ticket to Afghanistan and let them rant there and see how long they live! This really is an abuse of their freedoms!

  • cabensg

    Sick to soul but at least they aren’t bombing anyone. Bombs and IAD’s may kill me but words won’t unless it’s an order from Obama.

  • Haywoodjbl

    This group reminds me of Muslims…yes I said Muslims not radical Muslims….Putting the children out front……sickening

    PS…no such thing as a “radical” Muslim…if you are Muslim then your Koran calls for you to kill infidels….so you either are or are not Muslim

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002694470470 WL Whitelight

      Liberal and moderate Muslims are Infidels to mainstream Islam and Sharia laws.

    • keyesforpres

      Muslims, they’re peaceful…..until they’re NOT.

      • Orangeone

        If I may, moooslims, they’re peaceful….until they’re CAUGHT

  • Conniption Fitz

    This group of twisted hateful people is not a church nor is it ‘Baptist’…it is a political cult based on hate, like Islam.

    But still we must look on the bright side:
    1. The Westboro crowd only protests, harrasses and make asses of themselves; they don’t (as far as we know) bomb or shoot, decapitate or rape anyone, take over or infiltrate other countries like Islam.
    2. We can, for the time being, speak out and tell the truth about Islam and Obama and the rest of the permanent political parasites without being hauled to jail to face blasphemy charges before an UN or USSA tribunal.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwWW2DQS_DU Booker T.

    The media will now paint these guys as legitimate Christians. This is what bothers me the most.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CZSU2D67ODNZOKEZYHXONQ4F5Y John

    Your children listen to this:

    Eftos Kill Your Parents – Lyrics

    Active Nihilism – Kill your parents
    Make them pay – Hate and destroy
    Silencing the void – Pleasure revenge
    Wipe them out, Bastards get what they deserve!
    Nihilist supreme – Erasing

    It is no killing – Useless corpse
    Out of the Nothing – No feedback from anyone

  • searcher0

    i keep reading all these comments about God this and God that, what i want to know is why God thought that this psyco had more of a right to kill these little children than they had to live? god is love? he really showed it to those little children. and what about the children whose faith has a stumbling block put in front of it and stumble? what did Jesus say about any one who would cause the children to stumble? that it would be better for them if a mill stone was tied around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I understand your frustration searcher0. While I can’t explain it very well, let me say that God didn’t give the order for this guy to do what he did. It sounds like you know what the Bible says, for you know Jesus’ warning about causing little ones to stumble. They definitely will have a lot to answer to come judgement day.
      God doesn’t cause these things to happen- our fallen nature does. We have removed Him from our schools, taught our children that they come from slime, are no more than animals and have shown them that life is something that can be thrown away by abortion. Kids are perceptive. They see things and with the “entertainment” we have allowed them, movies which depict dads as stupid, moms as disrespectful, not to mention the kinds of music that’s out these days, is it any wonder why some kids grow up hating and not knowing any kind of respect?
      We’ve replaced God with government, and in schools the 10 commandments and prayer was thrown out, and cops and metal detectors take the place.

      God didn’t cause this my friend. We did. We can only turn to Him in these times and seek wisdom from Him on how to change things to help our children so they don’t grow up without hope, without knowing respect for themselves and others, without knowing how precious all life is.
      Please watch if you haven’t seen it on another Scoop thread searcher0- Ravi can say it so much better than I can..http://www.therightscoop.com/ravi-zacharias-on-how-a-good-god-allow-evil-to-happen/

      And you can find more of his wisdom here:http://www.rzim.org/?s=Why+bad+things+happen&x=21&y=18

      I hope you find some answers. But please seek what Jesus has to say.
      One more thing, I have been taking more comfort from Psalm 37 this year for many things…http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2037&version=KJV

    • Orangeone

      I may be amiss in not recognizing you or welcoming you to Scoop if you are new. Either way, I am glad you are here and joining in this important discussion.

      I see AmericanBorninCanada has provided with you with a great reply above. It’s normal to ask these questions and I turned to Ravi (see link in ABinC’s response for link) earlier this week as well.

      I am a long-time scholar of the Holocaust and have asked the same questions many, many, many times. How could God allow such evil to occur especially the senseless murder of children who had not lived any life before having it brutally taken from them. I find the answers in scripture and also from those who lived through the atrocities, bore witness and have the courage to educate the world so history is not repeated.

      As you can see, many of those that join the discussion at Scoop are God-loving and country-loving people. I am looking forward to more discussions with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BKOCJTRILJ436JKCV5KRMWHPGA Deborah

    Please tell me the police will keep these people away, or look the other way while decent citizens teach these people a lesson.

  • Marky_D

    Are these muppets trying to give ammo to the ”limits to free speech” brigade?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ssavageart Susan Savage

    Please do not confuse these people with Christians. It is a cult and should be seen as one.

  • UnCL3

    Here these ahole publicity seekers are again, trying their best to villainize Chritianity…

  • Sober_Thinking

    God will deal with your wicked, apostate, lying church Westboro… you are glorifying nothing but your own ignorance and evil.

    This is NOT free speech… It is wicked and corrupt. You should disolve your church and disband your membership so that people can emerge from the remnants of your ruin and find God again.

  • PennsylvaniaPatriot

    This is child abuse!

  • http://twitter.com/mjh4259 Mary

    “You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet.”

  • nibblesyble

    Vile pigs!

    • crosshr

      ouch nibble, well I thought that though

  • aZjimbo

    I better not comment.

  • repubboy

    Why are these people so hateful.. God’s mercy on their souls..
    May the Good Lord reach into their hearts and rip them out of their hateful bodies and end their miserable lives. !! Amen

  • kong1967

    Kids holding the signs, too. The adults are brainwashing these kids and it’s appalling.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OOKK3KBK7M2DX5OKOV7ODZ3QTA Jay

    Wow, what a thread. I hate what Westboro does, but not them individually. When you hate somebody you become just like them. Look what Dan Rather’s hatred of Nixon did to him.

    • Evil Otto

      When you hate somebody you become just like them.

      That’s bull. Simplistic, naive, comic-book morality. I hate Hitler. Does that make me like Hitler? I hate murderers. Does that make me a murderer?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388784674 Joel Cruz

    They will preach law and God’s judgement all day long, but odd how we never hear of the goodness of God’s mercy found in His Gospel. Life being found in his Son’s life, death and resurrection through faith. That’s how you can tell they are wolves and false teachers. They are FAR worse for Christianity than any Christopher Hitchens could ever be.

  • ExportLiberals2China

    First off this group is in no way Baptist or Christian – that is clear. No person of faith, Christian (any denomination) or Judaism would do something like this.

    I sometimes think this is a left wing extreme group trying to inspire the taking away freedom of speech rights – what better way! The Tea Party was many time infiltrated by left wing nut jobs saying races things (spies were caught on video – utube proof), only to be push out by the tea party themselves (so the tea party is self regulating).

    You are never going to prevent psychotically disturbed people from getting guns (steal them, get them like every other criminal does), so the only thing you really can do is allow someone on the inside to have a gun (training required) to deter the threat. I assure you if someone pulls out a gun in a theatre here in Texas, he might get a few shots off, but he will quickly be taken down in moments with someone carrying a gun (CHL-background checks, no criminal backgrounds).

  • ExportLiberals2China

    Just think of the teachers who died (courageously) trying to stop the gunman, yet if they had guns and training, they would likely be alive today along with many of the children!

    You have to love these liberals (senators , mayors) who want to take away our guns while they surround themselves with armed protection all the time. Eric Holder comes out talking gun control – yea the same guy behind Fast and Furious! If he was smart he would have kept quiet, now he put another target on himself to motivate new talks on F&F. Just remember Marxism can never be implemented as long as the population is armed – try to see the bigger motivation to take away our guns.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSKETECBAFDEAUOUML4ICTKLAA Alex

    Liberals are like Westboro, jumping to exploit any tragedy after it happens. While Westboro blames gays and America after every tragedy, liberals blame guns and their political opponents.

  • chatterbox365

    Those nuts deserve to be shot.