At 9:30AM this morning, Lois Lerner will testify (or plead the fifth) at a House Oversight Committee hearing on the IRS targeting Tea Party groups.
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Dangle the HANDCUFFS – Just for FUN!
Joe, you’re so bad! Lol!
Counting down, 25 minutes. Can’t wait to hear what she has to say…hahaha
This time, instead of handing out doctor lab coats, they’ll be handing out orange jumpsuits!
You’re such a tease. If anything they will be handing out straight jackets for the Republicans because they are the epitome of crazy. They keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I am afraid this charade is only going to get your blood pressure up because there are enough on both sides to exact a fraud just so they can go hmmph we tried our best and it wasn’t good enough. Then you walk away and wonder Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
As I heard one radio talking head say, because he is the first black president theý will do nothing that will damage his legacy. So word of advice, take a valium or some other medication and enjoy the show. Just color me skeptical.
ICYMI, check out this article about Lerner’s past practices at the FEC which njmom posted last night: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/irss-lerner-had-history-harassment-inappropriate-religious-inquiries-fec_725004.html
Anybody have an idea how many, “I don’t know’s” I don’t remember’s” and “I can’t recall’s” we’ll hear today? I bet if she talks at all we’ll lose count in the first 15 minutes. lol.
bookgeek probably every other word out of her mouth…..
If this was drinking game, we’d be dead from alcohol poisoning.
Use grape juice, but then you’ll run the risk of purple poop
WolfieUSA MarieCowsert1 bookgeek 1 shot every time they say irs, 2 evry time they say special prosecutor! lmao
LOL! Really or are you just kidding?
DavidErlandson WolfieUSA MarieCowsert1 bookgeek
(Hic!) I’d drink to that…
Think she has enough lawyers at that table? Maybe she’s gonna pile ‘em in front of her to block the questions.
PLEASE REFRESH – HAD TO UPDATE HOUSE OVERSIGHT LIVEFEED.
therightscoop youtube link still has issues, fox news feed fine
Jake Bourgeois therightscoop I can’t control the feeds. I can only publish them. Glad Fox News is working ok.
therightscoop Jake Bourgeois realize that just thought i’d give u the heads up
If the administration hopes to avoid a drawn-out investigation, it would do well to be more forthcoming.
May 22, 2013
Message to the president: Resistance is futile.
are plenty of juicy targets for investigators in the IRS scrutiny of
conservative organizations that applied for tax-exempt status, but the
most dangerous for President Obama is this: Did bureaucrats in
Cincinnati create this mess on their own? Or did someone in the White
House give the marching orders to target the president’s enemies?
Valin while at the Tea Party demonstration in Cincinnati yesterday an IRS employee demonstrated his distain of his employer (we the people). he had the gall to stick his fingers into his ears and play a moose (or mooslim)
FYI: On the chance people have trouble here watching this (God Forbid)
Outstanding speech by Issa – he’s really socking it to the IRS top people.
Trust But Verify!
“The buck will stop with this committee.” — Issa
The GOP wants so badly for all of this to just go away.
What about Obama’s campaign group becoming that charitable Action for American or something like that, which happen right after the election. They still use all the social media sites they did during the elections, still send fundraising e-mails. They should be investigated too.
Oh yes, let Ms Learner’s right under the Constitution be honoured, while trampling the Constitutional Rights of American citizens into the dust!
They should give her immunity immediately so we can find out that Obama is dirty. Then go after him.
ConservativeFromHell Going after Obama is the last thing they want to do. If Obama goes down it will be despite the Repubicans.
strangernfiction ConservativeFromHell i doubt that! I think they want Obama to go down badly!!! He has discredited and humiliated our government nationally and internationally. He is pushing a healthcare system that with aid of the IRS could destroy the Republican Party. Obama needs to go, and the whole Country is beginning to figure that out!
DavidErlandson strangernfiction ConservativeFromHell The party led by John “I absolutely trust Obama” wants Obama to go down badly? Well, they’ve got a funny way of showing it.
strangernfiction DavidErlandson ConservativeFromHell He’s looking for re-election and supporting Obama right now is not what all the cool republican kids are doing!
Cummings warning about partisanship….That’s Rich!
yup, very rich!
So did I get this right – the Dems got the interview transcripts from the IG – but not the Republicans?
colliemum yep. But can we really believe any of those answers?
Thanks – I couldn’t quite believe my ears!
What about partisanship now, Mr Cummings?
colliemum bookmoviegeek it doesn’t happen in this Washington anymore not like it was before Obama, before Obama, something like Benghazi, the Ap, and this IRS stuff, would have both parties calling for impeachment, sure would have hard core supporters, but not like this. I’ve never seen a President so protected before Obama.
No, I’m just a swivel-eyed loon and fruitcake, lol!
Wish someone would call me a swivel-eyed loon /jealous.
WolfieUSA colliemum Valin Hi Wolfie, you swivel-eyed loon, how’re things?
colliemum WolfieUSA Valin
YEY!!! You must made my day Mum! My day is much better now!
Okay, let’s just PRETEND that Obama, and Holder were AMERICANS… Let’s then pretend that America had laws to protect Whistle Blowers, the Free Press, and Free Speach!!! Then let’s pretend, as Americans, they would then have to face criminal trial for breaking those laws alone… What a fantastic imaginary world!!!
DavidErlandson To heck with Disneyland, I want to go to your “Imaginary World”
WolfieUSA DavidErlandson wolfie you would have travel back in time
unclesamnephew WolfieUSA DavidErlandson Some day my prince will come… lmfao
For cripes sake stop bloviating and ask the woman some questions. These pompous a-holes just like hearing themselves talk.
Les_in_NC She plans to take the 5th.
SheerPolitics Les_in_NC I know, so let her take it and appoint the special prosecutor..
Les_in_NC SheerPolitics Well it turns out this is just opening statements.
Les_in_NC they can ask her. but she’s already pleaded the 5th, she’s not talking.
Rep Lynch – also not mincing words, even threatening with special prosecutor – wow!
colliemum Yeah, I wanted to check my audio. I couldn’t believe I was hearing a D from MA!
He knows full well that if they, the dems, don’t sort this out together with the GOP, chances are that a GOP Administration might do it to them – because the bad they do they always assume the other side will do as well.
colliemum For dems, “bad” would mean finding out the truth!
They’re setting her up, so that she can’t weasel out and spin her answer.
Good for Lynch!
if you dont answer us we will be forced to appoint someone else for you to refuse to give answers to!!!
DavidErlandson They need to appoint a special prosecutor which will allow them to subpoena other witnesses.
SheerPolitics DavidErlandson i know. Obama will keep them quiet no matter what the special prosecutor does!!! They’re more afraid of him than they will be of the prosecutor
DavidErlandson I know…they haven’t found Hoffa yet either.
SheerPolitics DavidErlandson “The buck stops at this committee.” The GOP doesn’t want a special prosecutor.
strangernfiction SheerPolitics DavidErlandson God forbid they actually DO SOMETHING!
DavidErlandson strangernfiction SheerPolitics If I may, I would like to add the qualifier ‘that doesn’t increase their own power or purse’!
Oh wait, that was just their opening statements.
bookmoviegeek Dear God, it took four days for opening statements!!!! It’s like it’s a small world at disney, 4 hours in line for a 3 minute ride that leaves you dissatisfied!!! lmao
is it me, or does mr george look like he just smoked a fatty?
standing in for mr George today will be Mr. Tommy Chong!
You mean he shot an overweight person??
WolfieUSA DavidErlandson lol over cheeto’s! lmao
Oh – here we go: ‘a very complex set of tax laws’ – sure, that’s why conservative citizens were targeted.!
colliemum Math is hard!
SHE IS PROUD OF THE THINGS SHE HAD DONE!!! WHAT A SCUMBAG!!!
I AM NOT A CROOK!
SheerPolitics JUST ANOTHER OBAMA LOVING SCUMBAG!
How do we know if you haven’t done anything wrong, you’ve taking the 5th you sticking criminal!
Well she said she didn’t. And I believe her….because Santa Claus said she is on the good list.
Okay, her pay should be frozen right now.
Ah – she’s done nothing wrong, broken no laws, so therefore she invokes the Fifth Amendment.
Because we’re told that we have nothing to fear if we have done no wrong and must therefore be open in everything to the government …
She was “advised” by her counsel to take the 5th, therefore it wasn’t her personally taking the 5th! /sarc
she’s just a puppet on a string. /sarc
colliemum”Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”
Take that you stupid republicans!
I’m honest and haven’t done anything wrong,
I just don’t want to go to prison so I’ll invoke the 5th Amendment now,,
The First Amendment? heh, what’s that?
OK, SO NOW LETS DO TO HER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN DOING TO THE PEOPLE SINCE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE… GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!!! THROW HER IN JAIL!!!
DavidErlandson Certainly the IRS especially
What a Joke!!
GET THEM!! YAAAAHHH Trey Gowdy!!!
Yeah you can’t start giving statements and then clam up. Go Trey.
Hear! Hear! Gowdy!
Gowdy nailed it!
Applause for Trey Gowdy – he’s right, regardless of Mr Cummings interjection.
Ask the questions–make her repeat that she’s take the 5th over and over.
Time for the IRS and this Regime to “Get the Tea”
Hah! Darrell Issa is not letting her get away with it, will seek counsel if her use of the Fifth Amendment was ok
Agreed, that was good.
She’s obviously not an accomplished criminal. I think her lawyer messed up by letting her make a statement.
Pyrran oh she’s accomplished alright,
remember her opening statement?
she’s been embedded subverting the law for 30 + years
No_BlahBlah Pyrran I sure hope she gets a stylish orange jumpsuit. Something with stripes and goes well with chains.
can’t wait for smarmy three shoes jay carney to tell the reporters how MEAN and rude the republicans are
Given that she has already testified, could she be found in contempt of congress?
I hope she gets dragged in front of that committee again!
Issa should have listened to Gowdy!!!!
Oh yeah–good point Jim Jordan
SheerPolitics too bad we cant get every one of them nuetered!
issa just another squishy
unclesamnephew Disagree on that.
Why do you think that?
WolfieUSA unclesamnephew he could have and should have asked more questions and let her plead the 5th on each and everyone. let us hear the questions you have mr issa
I agree with you on that, but a squish is a bit strong IMHO… This inquiry is still only forming… He’ll get stronger and zero in when he has to. I have hope for him yet… Now if he punts… he’s a squish for sure!
WolfieUSA unclesamnephew i am okay with that. but we will watching. please define IMHO
Jim Jordan also got it – it’s about the COnstitutional rights of ordinary people, not just those of Ms Lerner
Sounds like you might want to plead the 5th also as soon as you make your opening statement.
No_BlahBlah Wolin: “We don’t know nothing, we didn’t do nothing, we’re taking action…blah blah blah”
So much hot air… so few balloons!
I agree with Issa.
Of course Obama was outraged and put into actin actions to prevent this from happening in the future!!! They had already completed their work for him, so he no longer needs them to do it!! Obama, Holder, and everyone in the State Department needs to receive their pink slip, court summons, and court dates for treason against the people of the united states!!
The POS ‘took immediate action’ – oh yeah, after he won the election, thanks to stifling the work of TEA Party people.
IS THIS A COMEDY ROUTINE???
HOW can gowdy and jordan keep from LAUGHING OUT LOUD???
No_BlahBlah because they are the joke!!! You cant go outside of character!!!
Boy George has some ‘splainin to do.
Pyrran karma karma karma karma karma 5th amendment…
If you aren’t willing to answer questions to help the American people understand what happened, you should not be allowed to keep your post. She should be ran out of DC. I’m sorry, but the opening statement she put out was crass and in the American people’s face considering she planned to answer no follow up.
MontyRay she should be banneed from decent society! I hear there are openings in Guantanamo!!!
Simple question time. Dose anyone know anything about this?
Please use small words…I’m not that bright.
Ah now… we know you’re far from not bright!
i r gots hole grat big bunces of muchly edumakayshuns.
Valin WolfieUSA LOL!
i just found out this morning… REALLY??? REALLY??? “Baliff, whack his peepee!”
Kick her out of office immediately! She works for the taxpayer and does NOT deserve to hide behind the 5th! If she refuses to ask questions about her job or activities…. That should be it… OUT and don’t let the door hit her arse on the way out!
WolfieUSA You don’t get to decide who is deserving of constitutional rights.
DarkKnight2016 WolfieUSA That’s right!!! You don’t get to decide!!! ONLY OBAMA and THE IRS can do that!!!
DavidErlandson DarkKnight2016 WolfieUSA These thing have happened for decades.
DarkKnight2016 DavidErlandson WolfieUSA
So, because the Republicans have done it to, that makes it OK, right?
DarkKnight2016 DavidErlandson WolfieUSA It doesn’t make it right then, and it isn’t right now! WE NEED IMPEACHMENTS TO BRING BALANCE BACK TO THE FORCE!!! NO MORE ANAKIN SKYWALKERS!!! NO MORE BARACK “NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN” OBAMAS!!! There needs to be balance and transparency in the Government! There needs to be impeachment! Holder and Obama need to go in order to restore the system of checks and balances. Getting away with ignoring the constitution, even if Barack is on the level and not trying to be a dictator, will lead us to a worse and more dangerous leader who will continue o in Barack’s dedicated work toward destroying our constitution!
DavidErlandson DarkKnight2016 WolfieUSA
For better or worse That is not going to happen.
Civil Service rules apply.
I wish. I just think Anyone in office should be FORCED to answer questions about their activities. If they refuse… OUT of a job that same day! Simple as that!
WolfieUSA All gov’t employees should be made to sign a waiver giving up their 5th Amendment rights as it relates to the execution of their jobs and refusal to sign should constitute an immediate resignation of any and all gov’t positions. No lying, NO Obfuscating, NO BS!
Agreed! They take from the taxpayer… They owe the taxpayer. Truth and all of it… or hit the road! Lie and hit the orange jump suit and a nice long stretch in jail.
Don’t know about you, but I had to stop the video… before my head exploded! Anyone remember the movie Scanners? Yeah… Like that… There is only so much BS I can take before I hit the reset switch or BAM! And I don’t want to go BAM!
‘It would be counter-productive to give ‘incomplete’ information to Congress’ – so we said nothing until long after the elections.
Nailed it! You have excellent observation and analysis skills mum!
Age and cunning, Wolfie, age and cunning, that means I’ll always ask ‘what is this lying liar lying to me right now?’ when listening to politicians/adminstrators/hacks.
colliemum WolfieUSA and you weren’t already??? Obama should have finished that trust off five years ago!
George is a goner. Well, he probably needs to lose weight anyway, so being on the dole might be a good thing for him.
ONE, TWO, THREE, AND UNDER THE BUS HE GOES!
He reminds me of the principal on Family Guy.
basically we didn’t want the press to find out before we had all our lies straight first.
Pleading the fifth proves that lies weren’t quite straight yet but it still keeps the truth from coming out.
http://www.livefyre.com/profile/12162337/ very true.
toongoon bookmoviegeek No, it gives you time to figure out where you are going that is out of their reach should someone else talk…
Cummings is a turd.
I’m SHOCKED that Cummings would ask these Politically-Motivated questions….SHOCKED, I TELLS YA!!!
so again rogue employees?
you pay over 40% of your weekly pay check for this. How does that make you feel?
Blimey – now Cummings also rips into Shulman!
Looks like Cummings is off the reservation.
Valin Yep, he’s pretty p*ssed off – because he’s been lied to as well, and that’s actually bi-partisan, being p*ssed off about being lied to.
Congress is kind of funny about that. They have very little sense of humor about that.
The thing about this is even the Left 9or at least most of it) understands just how dangerous this is.
Valin colliemum Congress can lie, but you can’t lie to Congress! You can do all kinds of things, but the cover-up is what gets you.
colliemum you are a bad man!!! pass the cheeto’s!
Maybe he is the high level fall guy?
toongoon colliemum Yeah, like Ollie North!!! He wants to get his own tv show!!!
toongoon colliemum Man I hope so…I REALLY do NOT like this Shulman guy…he’s so smug, rude, and lies through his teeth…
BrianJones1 toongoon colliemum
As long as he is the step stool for Issa to stand on and reach the real criminals.
Miller? Not that guy again.
It’s all Curley’s fault. Moe just said so.
Trust the IRS? For WHAT?!?!
E Lee Zimmerman
The R’s and D’s in Congress need to protect the IRS.
report it, at the appropriate time! like NEVER!!!
What is THE DEAL with Mr. Cummings’ hands?!? His wrists look like they’ve got Soft-Balls under the skin!!! He looks like Professor Brainard from Flubber, when he was changing from the fat professor to the skinny guy!!!
BrianJones1 May be arthritis.
colliemum BrianJones1 Eek!!! I hope not…I’ve got TONS of arthritis (at the ripe old age of 27), and BOY it must SUCK having that swelling going on…
Loose the rub Mica,
But you’re over target here, Keep Going!
“At 9:30AM this morning, Lois Lerner will testify (or plead the fifth) at a House Oversight Committee hearing on the IRS targeting Tea Party groups.”
She (and her lawyer) are apparently not that bright, or they are just that arrogant.
She opened by saying that ‘she would not answer ANY questions’, then affirmed (in other words ‘testified’) that that the paperwork put in front of her was indeed her prior testimony. Trey Gowdy was absolutely correct when he said that she self revoked her 5th Amendment right to self incrimination by doing that.
Unfortunately, she will get away with it because Cummings will carry her water because he’s no more interested in ‘getting to the bottom (actually the top) of this’, than any other Democrat in the Senate is, no matter what he says.
tinlizzieowner I am UPSET that issa allowed her to leave the room. at the very least she should be forced to sit on a stool with a dunce cap on for the duration of this hearing
unclesamnephew tinlizzieowner sellouts will always seek a way to let things lie!
No big deal. Obama and Co. are going to throw her under the bus soon anyway. She’s become a big liability.
Of course, SHE will ‘chose’ to retire (with her big, fat, SEIU pension).
tinlizzieowner unclesamnephew just as the Ft. Hood mooslim has collected over $ 250k. hat tip roger hedgecock program of 5-21
And the Muslim, Terrorist, SOB will be collecting that for a while yet (at taxpayer’s expense), because he’s STILL never been convicted. Meanwhile, the real soldiers he shot cant get any benefits because Barry called it ‘Workplace Violence.
‘You closed down or gagged Americans for 27 months’ says Mr MIca.
And Shulman says – they didn’t need to apply.
yes or no, Shulman. Pretty simple really. They should all just point fingers at each other in a round robin circle.
“they need not apply for 504″. per tom z. of the ohio liberty co, the IRS tricked the tea party to apply in order for the IRS to mine information for the DNC
ALLEGED targeting? Nothing alleged about it.
oh boy, I love Ms. Baloney. She’s great!
“I didn’t do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can’t prove anything.”
B Simpson (great living underachiever)
Uh … is Mr. George a paid actor?
E Lee Zimmerman they needed someone to make jim carrey look talented!
wait, an investigation? I thought he said it was an audit.
Pyrran he did. this time and last time. good catch.
Shorter Shulman: ‘I knew nothing, I know nothing, and what I knew I can’t remember’ …
I sure their memories are a lot better at their private parties where they sit and laugh about burning the constitution.
toongoon colliemum it’s getting cold in here, throw another amendment on the fire!
Pity the Constitution is such a small little booklet …
I suggest burning all tax codes …
colliemum DavidErlandson toongoon
Good idea. Global warming isn’t working out for them so we won’t need the tax increases anyway when it gets cold, (like it used to).
Time to Plead the 5th
These people need to be questioned while they are being polygraphed at the same time. Wrong answers will involve severe electrical shocks through their chairs.
looking into criminal activity,
I guess it depends on whether the dems win the house next year,
that’s about how long it will take to continue this ‘investigation’
No_BlahBlah They seem to be trained well enough to target the Tea Party groups.
So now not “targeting” but “training” problem.
bookmoviegeek Yep – and lack of funding (tax payers’ money) and nasty Americans trying to take advantage of the tax code which also must be changed, so that Obama and leftie organisatiosn can work unfettered …
colliemum you said unfettered. lol.
bookmoviegeek Yep – couldn’t resist, LOL!
colliemum bookmoviegeek lol.
With profound apologies to Winston Churchill
‘Never in the history of congressional hearings have so many spent so much time saying so little.’
We’re really sorry we got caught and we’ll make sure we never get caught again.
Pyrran i did not have sex with the constitution!!!
DavidErlandson Pyrran Oh thanks! My iced tea just went all over my keyboard!!!
Word to the wise. If you are going to post on this site, you need a waterproof key board.
tinlizzieowner Pyrran DavidErlandson lmao! beautiful!
tinlizzieowner Pyrran DavidErlandson And screen – don’t forget the waterproof screen!
It was a mistake when I refused to pay my taxes, I’m sorry, don’t hold me responsible. I plead the fifth!
Let us know if that works.
Valin toongoon Damn! I already paid when I could have taken advantage of this simple program offered by the IRS!
Pyrran Valin toongoon
Just tell them that you donated a couple hundred bucks to Obama. No problemo!
If it doesn’t I can always blame it on the low level kid who mows the lawn. After this the IRS should understand.
Valin toongoon I plan to plead my 4th and 5th amendments when I go see the local stool pigeon (my medical doctor)
Wrong answer, Shulman! ZZZZAAAAAPPPPP
Mr Lynch (D) also very p*ssed off, about why Shulman lying to Congress that ‘no targeting was going on’ when he’d apparently already had heard about this list existing.
colliemum There has been bipartisan outrage about this on Capitol Hill.
Yes. If there’s one thing which makes Congresspeople close ranks, bi-partisanly, then it’s having been lied to by those they interrogate.
colliemum liberty groups were tricked into appling for 5014c. IRS then became miners for the DNC
That is getting dangerously close to Nutterville.
shulamn should have been left in the hospital, and they should have brought home the afterbirth!
Sham Man would love to explain.
I would love to explain, but I can’t so there.
annnnd the baloney meter hits the top peg.
folks mr sulman is lying. tom zawrstowki of the ohio liberty coalition has posted a you tube video which counters these statements
Valin unclesamnephew you tube video at “ohio liberty coalition versus the I.R.S. (tom zawistowski)
You get an attaboy….Attaboy!
Valin unclesamnephew I must give credit to Tom Z.. I only wish I had this info yesterday at the Cincinnati protest
unclesamnephew Lying???? NO!!!! You can’t be serious. Our old pal Shulman?
(color me not surprised)
sthaayy fellas… Sulman is a smarty pants.
The IRS specifically said two weeks ago it was targeting conservatives, so Shulman needs to stop with the I think others were targeted too.
TinaG123 I agree, they already admitted they did it, now they should just own it.
bookmoviegeek TinaG123 Not gonna happen, they are in full CYA mode.
STUPID tea party, it’s their fault
IAW, according to Shulman, law-abiding TE Party citizens could just have disregarded the IRS investigations and gone on operating.
Yeah right. That’s what people do when the IRS audits them – they disregard it …
abolish the IRS! I know it will never happen, too many people make a living from the imposed complexity
Pol Pot, Mao, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Breznev, Kin Jing il are all clapping and bowing in hell knowing that Obama has gotten away with this in America. Obama must be their hero.
Ah, now Madame Holmes Norton wants on record that the WH wasn’t involved, that the IG didn’t ask about the WH,insinuating that the POS is as pure as the driven snow …
“Protect the brothah in the White House Mr George.”
Ummmmmm…..Uhhhhhh…………………………………………..Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…………………………………………………………………………….Did you eat Frosted Flakes or Cocoa Krispies for Breakfast this morning Mr. Shulman???
“Did you approve the screening?”
Never asks who did approve it. Don’t want to know THAT answer do you?
Watching Dems spend the IRS scandal is funny. They know midterms are coming up, and this could and hopefully will lead to a takeover of the Senate and gains in the House.
anyone in the IRS that talks is dead. I’m sure they’ve all been warned.
Jim Jordan hauling Shulman over the coals – he’s asking yes/no questions, so Shulman has no wriggle room – great stuff!
118 times he was at the house, and never once talked about this? sure. wow.
bookmoviegeek stats don’t lie
unclesamnephew agreed. oh geez bush! anyway, 132 letters from Congress, 42 news articles, and 118 times between 2010-2011, these numbers are crazy.
Oh here comes the “it’s Bush’s fault”.
SheerPolitics as seen here at scoop it is the BBB!
Look at that glow coming off of Shulman…
Shulman “I have no memory” about talking to anybody in the WH …
colliemum he changed, “I don’t know” to “I have no memory
bookmoviegeek Sounds a bit more professional, he thinks. Me, I think he should apply for a bed in a care home for Alzheimer patients, his memory is clearly so bad he cannot possibly be allowed to live unsupervised.
I always find it interesting when witnesses can absolutely remember what they didn’t talk about but can never quite remember what they did say elsewhere.
Ahaha – it’s the fault of “Citizens United”, and the SCOTUS ruling!Yes, Mr Connolly (D) – that’s what we wanted to hear!And – no resources – rrrright, it’s the fault of the House GOP!
Obama’s memo must have been to blame Bush and Citizen’s United. I could have sworn that liberals do have SuperPacs.
LOL..Shulman to himself thinking…”But I don’t look good in orange” ****UHH..What was the question????****
I think he would look fashionable in orange
Now Shulman says the WH Log can’t be true …
Chaffetz asks question after question – and Shulman cannot remember one single thing about anything.
Chafftez points out a letter written in 2011 – and Shulman ‘cannot remember’ … cannot remember receiving a letetr from Congress.
You mean like Obama
HighontheTide you beat me. I was just typing the same thing. lol
Is there anyone in this administration that knows a dang thing or takes responsibility?
Les_in_NC short answer…nope
Obama was more than happy to take credit for Seal Team 6’s work in taking out Bin Laden (and exposing a ‘secret ops’ outfit to the kind of publicity worldwide, that helps get them killed).
have you all notice that some of demo-rats seem to be a little bit concern over this?
unclesamnephew They are concerned, I think only for the next election, since ObamaCare is crashing and burning, they need this to go away as quickly as possible, true for the Rino’s too.
bookmoviegeek unclesamnephew agreed
So if you’re not under oath, it’s ok to lie….interesting
Where in the world is;
Sarah Hall Ingram, who heads the implementation of the Affordable Care Act at the IRS?
No_BlahBlah scary isn’t ?
the government, ALL AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS of the government are SO HUGE that no one Cares, no one Oversees, no one takes the least interest in or responsibility for any illegality, any wrongdoing, any NOTICE of
GET RID OF THE IRS, EPA, DHS, DeptEd, Commerce, Energy
So from all the hearings, Benghazi, the Irs and the countless others, I haven’t watched, I’ve learned that no ones in charge, no one knows what their job is, and they can’t remember or know anything.
bookmoviegeek you get an A+ and are exempt from future taxes
bookmoviegeek You got that spot on! Amazing, isn’t it – and very scary, to ahve so many inept, memory-damaged leaders in government.
George compares Tea Party to Terrorist. Saying that Terrorist could be targeted.
Issa nailed it. Most of these targeted groups, stopped operating.
Justice delayed is justice denied
So if, as Mr George say, these applications hadn’t been denied, but ‘only’ delayed, for years …
Issa rectifies: if an application had been denied, they could have been appealed – ‘delaying meant they’re screwed’.
Then he asks were the BOLOs for progressive groups? George says there were BOLOs for fraud schemes, for nationwide organisations, some others which he cannot describe yet …
So, says Issa, there were BOLOs for TEA Party but not for progressives? George cannot say … cannot give a definitive answer.
“Be On the Look Out,” or BOLO
I had to look it up, so maybe others were wondering also.
colliemum He did force George to finally be responsive and admit that only conservative groups were targeted.
It is obvious that George is a Democrat and trying to protect the Democratic President.
That woman needs to get out of the picture…she’s distracting me!
How about ….Oh I don’t know maybe ….THE FAIRTAX
Rep Gosar is tearing several strips off Shulman about leaked information on taxes to outsiders, even the one to Harry Raid about Mitt Romney.
“Shame on you”, he said – and he’s right!
colliemum yes he was.
I accept that this happened, but it wasn’t my fault it happened.
Nobody knows anything!
I got to get me one of those jobs. I can do nothing better than anyone I know.
look at what we to look forward to, they (IRS) will be in making sure we common americans are in compliance with “Obama-no-care”
Skull Man is very very sorry.
wow, he accepts reality. Mighty big of ya, Skull Man.
Training manual for IRS. For that matter everyone in the Obama Government.
Reruns of Hogan Heroes use Sgt Schultz as an example of best practices.
All this hearing has taught me is, the IRS needs to be dissolved and a flat tax or fair tax needs to be implemented.
That way, there will be no targeting and no more overpaid flunkies coming to Congress and quacking like ducks.
Pyrran oh oh! you didn’t call in the duckie! however too many people are making their living of the complexity of the tax code
I have never seen such arrogance and ignorance. Scary these people were or are in our government……
The question is, What if anything will really be done about this Fluster Cluck situation?
Swann reports that so far six IRS agents working out of the
Cincinnati office—which is the central hub for processing tax-exempt
applications—have been identified as sending scrutinizing letters to
conservative groups. These include:
Mitchel Steele-IRS Agent
Carly Young-IRS Agent
Joseph Herr-IRS Agent
Stephen Seok-IRS Supervisor
Liz Hofacre-IRS Agent
Ms. Richards (full name unknown)-IRS Agent
These agents report to different managers, with a territory manager overseeing those managers.
So who in the chain of command would have received all these
flags? The answer, according to the IRS directory, one woman in
Cincinnati, Cindy Thomas, the Program Manager of the Tax Exempt
Division. Because all six of our IRS workers have different individual
and territory managers, Cindy Thomas is one manager they all have
It turns out Cindy Thomas’ name is one we have heard before. The
independent journalism group ProPublica says in November of 2012 they
had requested information on conservatives groups that had received
Cindy Thomas, says Swann, is the highest-ranking employee in the Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department in Cincinnati.
Valin Great find!
Wish I could take credit.
That goes to Rheo of Right Reasons
what’s with the shiny white suit and bow tie?
No_BlahBlah We don’t all dress like that here (actually not many at all).
No_BlahBlah maybe a Doctor Who Fan?
bookmoviegeek No_BlahBlah Dr. Who has better taste!
SheerPolitics bookmoviegeek No_BlahBlah thats true, I love his fez.
Unreal – it never occurred to Shulman (“I feel very comfortable with my actions”) that these lists might possibly affect the upcoming elections.
His nose should by now have reached Darrel Issa’s seat …
GIVE US MORE MONEY!!
That will solve all our problems
No_BlahBlah Always scream poor, just like those “friends” we all have, that never seem to have any money, but are always “shopping”
No_BlahBlah Sure makes it clear that all he really cares about it getting the Union more money.
Oh God, more reform.
Rep Welch (D) is trying to turn this against TEA Party groups, because -> “Citizens United”! They had money, and of course the POS had no money at all to campaign …
Let me guess Federal financing of all elections. Gee, what could go wrong?
Valin Yep: more taxes needed.
colliemum Valin not everybody is “paying the fair share” makes you cringe to think how much will ever be enough for these people.
Trey Gowdy – YAY!
“What did you do?” – “Why can’t you give me a name?” – “Is the IG the only entity who can investigate wrongdoing?”
Aww, Shulman is wriggling!
colliemum I’ve been waiting for him to come on!
SheerPolitics Same here – he, Jim Jordan and Darrell Issa really nail those they question: no wriggle room left.
I love me that Trey Gowdy! He’s hanging Shulman out to dry and sway in the wind.
He’s the best!
Mr. Shulman, is there a brain in your head?
love it, “listener has to be as stupid as the speaker”
Exactly what did Skull Man do at the IRS? He doesn’t know anything, he never heard anything, he never investigated anything, etc, etc. What are we paying him for again?
Pyrran Looking pretty in a grey suit, and going egg-rolling at the WH.
mens room? naaa, let em squirm.
“Let the record reflect that this was a no’ – says Trey Gowdy after having nailed Shulman, tied him in knots and hung him out to dry.
Cardenas is an idiot. He is assuming that no one understands the Federal Registry. Once there it is the law of the land thus what he is saying is an outright lie. That language was changed over forty years ago. The law is not primarily not exclusively educational.
Simple question time:
What exactly…legally does Social Welfare mean?
Lois Lerner has not heard the last of this.
Trust in the IRA! Yeah right.
Gawd, trust a Dem congress critter to hark on about ‘abuse’ of that tax code, abuse by conservative groups, naturally.
Because prog groups of course never abuse tax laws or campaign moneys or use donors not being American citizens.
why can they never seem to ask questions from the people who were actually there or had something to do with the “audit”/”investigation”
That is what is technically known as a very good question.
Valin bookmoviegeek lol.
bookmoviegeek I have the impression that Issa will call some of them to another hearing.
This is not over at all.
colliemum bookmoviegeek I hope they do, I’m more worried now than before, Lord. Watching our taxpayer money work is surreal.
Georges idea of an independent Audit.
Allow the Manager being investigated into every meeting. RIGHT?
steveangll77 apparently. their level of incompetence seems to know no bounds.
Shulman even wriggles on questions on the constitution – as lawyer. Gawd. Shameful.
are we even sure this guy actually worked for the IRS? OMG, “I believe I study the constitution in law school, but not sure? WTF?
I find it reprehensible and disgusting that Shulman thinks questions about the Constitution are sort of funny ha ha.
IRS MOTTO: Constitution…WE don’t need no stinkin constitution
George has absolutely no viable defense of his own actions.
Audit or not you do not allow someone into every meeting that oversees the entire team. It totally chills any cooperation and thus makes the audit results just a repetition of what the manager is saying.
He would have gotten the same results with one meeting with Learner. Aberrant.
I think Greg Gutfeld needs to ban the word “Reform” its always reform this reform that, never fire, lose pensions, and or jail for those responsible for breaking the rules(laws).
Gawd, Shulman has made himself totally unemployable now. He knew nothing of what his underlings did, he didn’t ask, he never followed up, and then he forgets everything, doesn’t know anything, can’t remember …
What a pillock!
colliemum I don’t know, he might get a “teaching” gig at some Lib Univeristy.
This is true. He could teach Constitutional Law, seeing that he finds it so funny.
colliemum bookmoviegeek Omg! clever you. lol.
colliemum He could be the Democrat nominee 2016
HighontheTide Yeah, or become Attorney general in Hillary’s administration …
colliemum Well, the person who wondered “What difference at this point does it make?” is the front runner for the dems in 2016.
Les_in_NC Apparently there are whistleblowers planning to come forwards who will say that she provided stinger missiles to the rebels, against the advice of the CIA, and Amb Stevens was going to get them back, on her behalf.
Good job, but don’t EVER forget
FOUR DEAD IN BENGHAZI
Ahaha! Darrell Issa does not adjourn the hearing but calls for recess – meaning Ms Lerner will have to come again, and this is not ‘the end’!
colliemum Does the hearing have to restart today? or can it just stay active, until a later date?
bookmoviegeek It stays active until a later date. That’s what I assume, because Issa is going to confer with counsel, along the lines Trey Gowdy brought right at the beginning, namely that she had given an opening statement and this meant she couldn’t use the 5th Amendment afterwards.
colliemum bookmoviegeek thank you for the info, I know some of their procedures, but it can get a bit confusing.
CUE : Gimme Three Steps… Lynard Skynard
Massachusetts Rep. Stephen Lynch warned that if IRS officials don’t
start cooperating more, “it will lead to a special prosecutor” being
appointed. “There will be hell to pay if that’s the route that we
(choose) to go down,” he said.
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