WEIRD: Obamacare prohibits feds from collecting any info on lawful gun owners – thanks to Harry Reid

This is an oddball post if I’ve ever seen one. Before final passage of the bill, Harry Reid managed to slip into Obamacare protection for gun owners that prevents the government from collecting any information relating to “lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition“. This was added, according to CNN, as a “relatively benign way to make sure the National Rifle Association didn’t get involved with this.”

But CNN also points out that Harry Reid was singing a different tune back in 2010 as he was trying to court 2nd amendment voters in his state for his upcoming reelection – even inviting NRA’s Wayne LaPierre to speak at a gun range in his state. And true to form after the Aurora, Colorado movie theater massacre 2012, Reid wasn’t interested in the slightest about changing gun laws, saying “with the schedule that we have, we’re not going to get into a debate on gun control.” This was after he had won his 2010 reelection, of course, but in the midst of a heated presidential race.

So how does Reid explain his change of opinion on gun control now? According to his staff his opinion on gun control is evolving: “The Senate majority leader’s views on gun control are changing. He’s in a different place than he was in 2010.”

Yeah, right. Watch the full report below:


JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When President Obama signed national health care reform into law, few in Washington knew that buried in the legislation’s more than 900 pages was a gift to the nation’s powerful gun lobby. But here it is, a provision entitled Protection of Second Amendment Rights.

It states the government and health insurers cannot collect any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition. The provision was such a secret, “The Washington Post” reports that some people in the White House didn’t even know it existed, despite being in the president’s signature legislation.

Health care advocate Joan Alker did notice it and has a hunch where it came from.

(on camera): And so how do you think this got in there? JOAN ALKER, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY: I don’t know, but I’m assuming the NRA put it in at the last minute.

ACOSTA (voice-over): So who put it in there? It might surprise you to learn it was this man, the most powerful Democrat in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. But why? A Democratic source close to the passage of the health care law tells CNN: “This is what was viewed as a relatively benign way to make sure the National Rifle Association didn’t get involved with this.”

Reid has been a top advocate of gun rights for years. In fact, just days after the health care law was signed, Reid invited Wayne LaPierre, a top official at the NRA, to the opening of this Nevada weapons range.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV), MAJORITY LEADER: People who criticize this probably would criticize baseball.

ACOSTA: LaPierre’s visit was a big boost for Reid, who was courting gun owners in his very pro-Second Amendment state of Nevada in a tough battle for reelection.

WAYNE LAPIERRE, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION: I also want to thank you, Senator, for your support every day at the federal level for the Second Amendment and for the rights of American gun owners.

ACOSTA: Both Reid and the NRA declined to talk to CNN on camera, but Democratic sources on Capitol Hill say the NRA was not the only threat to the president’s health care bill. Lawmakers were also worried about conspiracy theories circulating among gun enthusiasts that falsely accused the Obama administration of plotting to use the health care law to go after gun owners.

One group, the Gun Owners of America, insists it could still happen.

LARRY PRATT, GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA: It says that all of our medical records are available to be pawed through by bureaucrats somewhere in Washington looking for a reason to disenfranchise gun owners.

ACOSTA: As for Reid, his staff told us today: “The Senate majority leader’s views on gun control are changing. He’s in a different place than he was in 2010,” says an adviser. Consider how Reid answered the question after the July movie theater massacre in Colorado.

REID: With the schedule that we have, we’re not going to get into a debate on gun control.

ACOSTA: And how he responded after the killings in Newtown.

REID: We need to accept the reality that we’re not doing enough to protect our citizens.

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  • tinker_thinker

    Stinkin commie.

  • Rshill7

    Bo-chicka wow-wow 🙂

  • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

    What it all comes down to is summarized in the video on this page, CNN vs the Marine who wrote the letter to Diane Frankenfeinstein: (listen to the end)…

    • Sober_Thinking

      Thanks for the link. Overall, he did a good job. I’m surprised she didn’t go all “Piers Morgan” on him.

    • MiketheMarine

      And there are about 1 million of us “Former Marines” that have that Corporals back. They, the feds, don’t really want this fight and they know it too.

      • “Enemies… Foreign and DOMESTIC” 🙂

        • MiketheMarine

          Yep, THAT’S the oath we took and stand behind.

          • It’s reassuring to know there are good men, and patriots such as yourself out there looking out for the rest of us my brother!

            • MiketheMarine

              Don’t worry too much, Brother. This country will NOT go communist on my watch. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN !!!

              • well

                already has mostly.

                unless Obama is impeached about Benghazi plus,

                it will go all the way-

                • MiketheMarine

                  Nah, the fact that there is now open conversation about a revolution against the government even on network tv tells you that we peons are organizing and considering all of our possible actions to fix this mess is a sign. They aren’t connected enough to reality to see it and understand it for what it is. A true revolution is being discussed by the masses.

          • MadAsHellJack

            The Oath that stands until DEATH!

            • MiketheMarine

              Darn tootin’. Now, to be realistic, if they do come for our guns, they WILL get most of us and probably kill a bunch of us. Our goal should be to make that kill ratio about 10 to 1. I know I could hold out, due to land and fields of fire, a bit longer than most so I’m counting on 25 or 30 before they get me.

              • Let’s hope it never comes to that. I can’t see the military turning on fellow ex-military at the behest of a political hack like NObama anyway. If he tries to push this, he could find himself with a military coup on his hands.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Wouldn’t that be wonderful.

                • 😀

                • No a millitary coup would not be wonderful. Now telling the President that they refuse to play would be great, but not a coup which would mean taking over the government. Now don’t get me wrong, I will be one of the KIA if they come for my guns , but don’t want to see a millitary coup.

                • MiketheMarine

                  It would be FAR BETTER than having UN blue hats at every corner with sand bagged machine guns which is where we’re headed.

                  Look, I agree with you that nonviolence is the prefered method of correction but when the fed stops operating the way it is designed and the US citizens lose to illegals and criminals every time with a accessory government, something MUST be done.

              • That’s only because Every Marine Is A Rifleman.

                I’d probably take out most of the trees and nail about six of the thirty they’d send to get us.

                • MiketheMarine

                  I have the advantage of distance. They need to cover three acres just to get to the brick house. All open, all laser ranged already. No dope adjustment required. I could shoot a flea off of my gate fence post from my bedroom window with a slight quick dope adjustment and bang.

          • Don

            In the Army, the Infantry is classified as 11 Bravos. They are Infantrymen and are the backbone of the Army. They represent less than 20% of the actual Army and are the only group permitted to wear the CIB (combat infantry badge) that designates they have been in live-fire combat. We feel the same way, Mike.

            • MiketheMarine

              And there are way more of you guys than there are of us Marines. Those numbers, along with Navy types, and airedales, really add up quick. I don’t believe that our current military would honor any order from the fraud in chief to take up arms against Americans anyway. Do you?

              BTW, Semper Fi, Brother.

              • colliemum

                Didn’t know terriers could shoot – I’ll be more careful next time I meet one.

                (Sorry – couldn’t help myself …)

                • MiketheMarine

                  LOL, of course you couldn’t. Allow me to rephrase. Flyboys………

                  That was funny.

                • colliemum

                  Teeheehee – a laugh a day keeps the nasties away! And the more laughs the better!

                • MiketheMarine

                  I am feeling a bit under the weather today so I needed that. Thank you. I think I’m catching a little bug. Comes from working with the nasty public.

                • Do you work for the TSA?

                  Just kidding. Don’t kill me. 🙂

                • colliemum

                  You’ve come to the right place for unsolicited advice on how to deal with bugs from the nasty public.

                  Drink lots of peppermint tea (yeah, I know, but it does help!), get Vitamin C crystals, dissolve in water and drink loads of that – it isn’t stored in the body, so no danger, 1 mg per glass, 4 glasses or five a day.
                  Then get Manuka Honey from New Zealand – it’s in health food stores – and eat three spoonfuls (teaspoon) a day. If you can also get zinc tablets, get them and take the top dosage.
                  Aspirine is better than any other painkiller.

                  You’ll be fine as rain in three days, no doctor needed.

                  Oh – a woollen scarf round the neck day and night until you’re feeling ok!

                  Anything else, ask this granny!


                • sDee

                  Umcka. Get it. Take a lot of it.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Oh, see the Marine Corps home remedy is Taquila in large doses mixed with percocets, sleep for two straight days and if it didn’t work, do it again. LOL

                  Just joshing. I’ve known the secrets of vitamin C for a long time. It is also a hangover shortener too. I learned that in my much younger, partying days. Pop a couple, three vitamin C tabs before bed, after drinking and wake up almost hangover free.

                • colliemum

                  Vit C tablets have too much other stuff in them – just get the pure crystals. It’s also cheaper.

                  Hangover cure … yeah, I know one ought to drink lots of water, before and in the morning. Well, I can tell you one drink where this doesn’t work: Ouzo (or Pernod)! Drink water in the morning after a long Ouzo night, and you are drunk again in no time!

                  (Yeah, I was a baaad girl in my early, mis-spent youth …!)

                • MiketheMarine

                  I wish you and I were in that stage at the same time. We might have gotten into bigtime trouble, you and I. And Yes, I know about Ouzo. I don’t do it or Tequila anymore. Either a good scotch or Sam Adams Beer, Period. I’ve learned my lesson praying to the porcelain throne several times too many.

                • colliemum

                  Yep – that would have been outstanding fun!

                  I had to learn my lesson because I developed allergies to all that makes a drink nice, from spirits (ahhhh – Paddy!) to wines, to beer, even Guinness, even alcohol-‘free’ lager. No more. Not going to have a ferocious asthma attack because of a drink, and then go on oral steroids.
                  Not. Gonna. Happen.

                  When my stepdaughter told me it was cool that I drank a pint glass of ordinary water at a party, I knew I had it made!

                • My family, since the beginning of the United States Air Force in 1947, have been members of this fine branch. Our youngest son is currently a member of the United States Air Force, having taken the exact same oath you took. My father, the first member of our family to be in the United States Air Force, was in WWII with the 756th Tank Battalion, the most decorated unit in the history of the United States Army. In 1947, he moved to the United States Air Force and, subsequently, was in the Korean and Vietnam wars. He was in these war zones for a total of 5 years and lost friends and loved ones in all three wars. My father was a crew chief/avionics specialist on fighter jets and cargo planes. He was also sitting next to one of his best friends on one of those cargo planes and got to see him shot through the head through the fuselage while flying over Vietnam to deliver goods to the military in country. He subsequently died from lung and esophageal cancer due to his being exposed to 650 kilotons of radiation in the desert of Nevada in the 1950s under Operation Plumbbob.

                  I DARE you to say my father is less of a patriot than you because he was in the United States Air Force rather than the marine corps.

                  My husband and I were both members of the United States Air Force; he retired, I did one term and left to raise the kids. My husband was in the first Gulf War – his unit called in the coordinates for the scud missiles being lobbed at our military. Not a single one hit the ground, not a single person was harmed by these scud missiles.

                  Our two oldest sons are in the United States Army, one as an Apache Helicopter pilot, the other as a combat engineer, both having served in Irag for a total of 14 months.

                  I can assure you all my sons, the one who is a member of the United States Air Force as well as the two who are in the Army, are just as vehement about the oath they took when they joined the United States Air Force and Army as you were when you joined the Marines.

                  I would put my family’s patriotism up against yours, any day of the week, in spite of the fact none of us were in the marines (and, yes, I used lower case. Respect is earned, not given), but the United States Air Force. You denigrate a branch of the military because they’re not “you”, but how happy were you in a war zone when those United States Air Force jets started flying over, doing their damage? How good did it feel to see those planes land that had the USAF logo on the side, knowing they were filled with mail for you and your fellow soldiers? Did you hate and ridicule them then?

                  You owe a debt of gratitude to every member of the United States Air Force since 1947 for saving your ass when you needed help the most. Now, more than ever, every branch of our military needs to stand together under the oath they promised to serve “…to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic…”

                  Did the marine corp teach you nothing about your brothers in arms? In a war zone, were you to witness the injury of an airman, do you let him/her remain lying there because they’re in the United States Air Force or do you help them as a fellow patriot who opted to serve their country while wearing blue instead of green?

                • BayushiZero

                  Good grief, woman.

                  Chill. It’s nothing but good natured joshing at the expense of the United States chAir Force.

                  The Air Force got me and mine where we had to go when we went (97E, 504th Parachute Infantry, 82nd Airborne US ARMY 98-05; WIA Afghanistan), but we tended to mess with the airdales every chance we had.

                  I did it more than most, as I grew up with Naval Aviation (father’s a retired USN E7, Aviation Fire Control Technician (rolled into Aviation Electronics Technician during BRAC), and I’m sure you know the rivalry that exists between USAF and USN Aviation.

                  There is no need to get so damned defensive about a wisecrack. If it’s such an issue, you may need to talk to your fellow airmen, as even they have the motto: Sitting in Chairs, Pushing Buttons.

                • So terribly sorry the government and the DOD think so much more of the Air Force and Navy that they supply them chairs.

                  I was at WPAFB the day the POWs were brought back from Vietnam. The Air Force didn’t care what branch of the service they were from. They brought everyone home.

                  You could learn from the Air Force about respecting others. I guess the marines are too stupid to understand that. But then, you’re all just bullet stoppers anyway.

                • BayushiZero

                  Nancy, did you miss the part where I said I was Army?

                  Nancy, did you miss the part where I didn’t bash the Air Force?

                  Nancy, did you miss the part where it appears that you are suffering from Cranial Rectumitis?

                  Stop whining. You’re giving the Air Force a bad reputation.

                • KenInMontana

                  You apparently never learned about intraservice rivalry, in all that time. Good-natured ribbing is part of the game Nancy. BTW, the term “Airedale” refers to those who served in Marine Corps Aviation, not the Air Force. Had Mike used the terms “Zoomies” or “Flaps” he would have been referring to your beloved Air Force.

                  One last thing there “Nance”, as Marines, we leave no man behind, no matter which branch they serve in. Get over yourself.

                • Hey Ken. I was looking for music for the next videos of Benghazi that I’ve been working on. Came across this and thought of you and Mike. Thank you Ken. Mike made me an honorary Marine, so I’m sayin Semper Fi to you too. I take my oath seriously as well. 🙂

                • First of all, I want to say thank you for yours and your family’s service. There are a lot of us who are grateful.
                  I have to say though, I doubt MikeMarine meant no disrespect to any of the AirForce or any other branch or their service. You being military yourself must know that the different branches mess with each other all the time- but when it comes to serving, I’d venture to say that Marines would have the Air Force backs as quick as Y’all would.

                • Replying here because I couldn’t below. Please read the comment rules- and keep personal attacks out of it. There was no call for that.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Nancy, take a deep breathe. Ask your veterans and currently serving family members what some of THEIR terms for Marines are and you may be shocked by the horrible things we call each other, BUT we are ALL Brothers and Sisters in arms. I didn’t intend on insulting you or the Air Force. My father was a Navy Flyboy and I pick on him too.

                  One detail you don’t know about me that might lighten your attitude a bit is that one of my very best friends is a former Air Force PJ (Para Jumper) who EARNED a Bronze Star in A-stan choppering in to a very hot firefight to help save the bacon of MARINES. His Bronze Star was given to him by the Marine Corps, not the Air Force. And I would kill or die for him. Make no mistake, any American Warrior is my Brother and Sister so, easy, Sister. You just need to keep in mind that insulting other branches is just considered fun amongst the warriors in question.

                  Are we better now, you and I?

                  Semper Fidelis to you and your entire Military Family, regardless of branch.

                • MiketheMarine

                  One other detail about me for you. My Grandfather was an Army Air Corp (Which became the Air Force) Master Sergeant and he was on Iwo Jima with the Marines, so I have some zoomie blood in me too.

                • LOL! 🙂

              • Don

                I certainly hope it doesn’t come to that, but we have never had a president and administration so obviously working to the detriment of our country. What we have to look forward to is the desperation of his attacks as it moves towards the end his term. I do know that he would love to stay in office and overtures to that goal are being suggested by some, but it is still too early to push that point now. If he forcibly overrides the 2nd Amendment, the consequences will be dire. It will be another step, in his attempts to bringing this country down. Lets hope it doesn’t happen..Semper Fi, Brother.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Tell you what. How funny would it be if they remove term limits and we reelect George W. Bush. That thought makes me happy.

              • sDee

                don’t leave out the rest of us Mike.

                i reiterate, i don’t think the insurrection will be in battle with the u.s. military. i think the insurrection will do battle against federal agents and bureaucracy, and their armed agents, and they in no [ways] are as formidable in any respect to the u.s. military.

                we gun owners far outnumber the federal agents and state police the obama administration might put in the streets to try and enforce a gun ban. and, we out gun them in small arms.

                and, from what i have seen of police officers shooting in the range, and from what i have seen of police swat teams, we who own guns can also outshoot them.

                personally, i think anyone who would incite america to insurrection is an absolute fool. and, yes, joe biden, that would include you, on any number of counts.


                • MiketheMarine

                  You guys are my back pocket, secret weapon. You see, we vets are already on a list and get extra scrutiny in airports and everywhere else, almost like we’re hajji’s. They are already in the know on us. I kinda want to keep our civilian army, some of whom are being trained by a few of us formers. I haven’t discounted you guys but I hope THEY do.


      • greg2318

        Just not Marines shipmate.. there is Navy, Airforce and Army.. we all took the oath to defend our country..

        • MiketheMarine

          No doubt, Brother. I know and trust you all. However, I only know the stats for my branch. I look forward to standing shoulder to shoulder with each and every one of you should it become necessary. Just think about all those numbers. I don’t think our government has any clue what size pile of shiite they’re stepping into.

      • This former Army vet is with you 100%

        • MiketheMarine

          Hoorah, welcome aboard and

          Semper Fi, Brother.

  • Sober_Thinking

    Harry Reid is a textbook politician and the lowest form of life: say one thing but do another. ANYTHING to win an election.

    Ever “Evolving”. Obama, Reid, Pelosi. The “Axis of Evil” redefined.

    • After watching that election, something makes me think that Reid wasn’t worried about losing. I think that his biggest concern was how obvious the election fraud was.

      • MiketheMarine

        I couldn’t reply to your “don’t kill me” reply. LOL, fear not, my Friend. But I do work in a building full of doctors and dentists and they we’ve got sneezing, coughing, weezing, sickos wandering in and out all day long.

        My policyholders are the Good public. These sick people are the nasty public.

        You are safe, I have made a New Year’s resolution to not hurt any Scoopers. I plan on keeping this resolution.

        • No worries. When you referred to working with the public and getting sick, my mind went straight to the TSA putting their hands down people’s pants and then doing it to the next person without changing the gloves. Lots of people have complained about that.

          I wanted to make sure that you didn’t take that the wrong way. “Kill me” with words is all I meant. I should probably find better ways of putting things.

          • MiketheMarine

            No worries. Thanks to the 4 fused vertebra in my neck and my pain management doc and his percocets, I’m pretty much always in a good mood anymore. Though I love the pills, I would not recommend the surgery. It sucked on a cosmic scale.

            Anyone who thinks they understand pain, child birth included(I know this will draw fire) has NO IDEA what pain is until they fuse 4 vertebra in a single surgery. There isn’t enough morphine on the planet to stop the pain and put you to sleep.

            But now, I have the advantage of always being happy. OH, and I’m titanium armored in my neck. I’m a hajji’s worst nightmare. Couldn’t decapitate me with a frigging radial saw.

            • So, if anyone calls you stiff necked, you could agree in a literal sense. 🙂 Will the pain ever get better? I know that it takes a long time to heal fused vertibra. I assume that they use titanium and then cause the bone to grow together.

              • MiketheMarine

                Yep, titanium and a bit stiff but I have more range of motion than you might imagine. People don’t usually believe me in person until I show them the scar that runs from the base of my skull to between my shoulder blades.

                No, pain will only worsen as I age. NO worries, tho. If it hurts, then that means that you are still alive.


                • Some years ago, my wife had a disc replaced. It had been approved in Europe for fifteen years before that, but the US would not allow it until then. Some people over there were having 3-4 discs replaced at one time, rather than fusing the vertibra. The new disc replaces the old, and is better in many ways than the original. The US decided that only one could be done at a time, and if you had two bad discs, you couldn’t get the procedure. The surgeon who performed her procedure was the first in the area to do so. He had received special training to perform it. It is quite the awesome deal. It seems like every time that I turn around, I find something new that the AMA and our government is doing to keep us sick, injured, or dying. Just the fact that the Gerson therapy is illegal for a doctor to prescribe is telling enough, but why would a long time proven surgical procedure be limited or banned in the US? I guess that is what you get when your socialist government makes all the calls and uses force to control the population and their personal decisions. When I hear about people in your situation, it just ticks me off even more.

                • MiketheMarine

                  Yeah, things have changed in medicine. I had two fused in 2001 which made me unqualified for the newer version they do now. They now use a teflon lazy susan type disc that only takes one or two months to recover from but since I’d already HAD a fusion I couldn’t have that surgery. So, they went in and fused two more vertebra to the two already fused. Now I have a titanium plate with 4 screws on the front of C4-C5 and two titanium rods that go from C6-C3 with two screws per vertebra.

                  Total titanium count is one plate, two rods and twelve screws. I wonder if I could pawn them for some real money? But then I’d have to carry my head around.

      • Sober_Thinking

        You may be right…

        I think he KNEW the unions would bus liars and cheats in to save his sorry, wrinkled butt.


        • I don’t remember all the details, but his relative was the state election official. He was losing in the polls by a bigger margin than the normal margin of error. There was more to it, but it likely came down to the vote counts getting flipped electronically.

          • Sober_Thinking

            Voter fraud is unbelievable in this country… I’d expect it in Iran or Cuba…

            Leftists, liberals and Democrats can’t win in a fair fight.

            • Neither can McCain, Graham, and other establishment RINOs.

              • Sober_Thinking

                LOL… too true.

    • SineWaveII

      “Harry Reid is a textbook politician and the lowest form of life” Redundant but absolutely correct.

      • Sober_Thinking

        lol… I just wanted to say it more than once… 🙂

  • MiketheMarine

    See, democraps are so stupid they don’t even know what they, themselves want.

    • sjmom

      The Dems WANT power and so when that is your agenda conviction and positions can change with the wind. They confuse the word principle which means a fundamental doctrine or tenet* with the word principal which means first or highest in rank*. Who said they were the brightest bulbs in the chandelier?????????

      *both definitions from

      • MiketheMarine

        Democraps don’t know what dictionaries are, either, sadly.

        Well said

  • RighteousCrow_JustCaws

    Yes, it was very controversial among NRA members when they backed Reid against Tea Party candidate Sharon Engle. The NRA recognized Reid’s power in Congress and his lifelong 2nd Amendment support; but in this narrow viewpoint failed to foresee his more damaging support of liberal justices…and more.

    • SineWaveII

      You got that right.

  • frontierwoman

    This seems great on the surface. They make the laws though…it would be easy for them to make today’s law abiding citizen tomorrow’s law breaker.

  • sjmom

    Reid is easy to explain; he has no convictions and only plays a role when running for election. Typical liberal behavior.

  • MiketheMarine

    You know, Harry Reids position may be “evolving” But LAWS can’t evolve. A law is a law.

    • colliemum

      Not for dems and commies, it isn’t.
      All they need is an E.O. from the POS.

      • MiketheMarine

        Did you know that when they removed the CARE act from Maobamacare, it isn’t separable so, really Moabamacare is ALREADY dead.

        • colliemum


          So now all that’s needed is stop Maobama surviving.

  • You have to love the word games that Libtards play

    When a Republican/Conservative changes a position, he FLIP FLOPS!!

    When a Democrat/Liberal changes a position, he EVOLVES! When he flips back, does he DEVOLVE??

    • MiketheMarine

      I don’t think democrats have ever evolved from tree dwelling primates in the first place, Brother.

    • Nukeman60

      What he means is they are trying, but failing, to come out of the primordial ooze.

    • colliemum

      I wish they did – physically.
      Perhaps dissolving them might speed the process up.

  • Nukeman60

    I still don’t understand why any kind of gun law regulation is in a healthcare bill. What else are we going to find in there? A repeal of term limits for the President? Support for an algae farm to feed their Unicorns? What?

    REID: “We need to accept the reality that we’re not doing enough to protect our citizens.”

    Of course you’re not. Do you even hear what you are saying, Harry? Try to listen to all the little voices in your head.

  • Haywoodjbl

    As I have said before. Come get mine, I will be here.

  • It looks like you are hypocrite, Dingy Harry. Thanks anyway!

  • clockwindingdown

    1st off, the 2nd Amendment doesn’t need support from the federal government doing illegal acts. The federal government needs support to carry out illegal acts…

    That said we should all get harry’s goat and send him letters thanking him for adding additional protection to the 2nd Amendment in O’scare.

    We should remind little harry that what he did with O’scare was to protect us against what he is attempting doing at this time!

    Also included the question what does the term “infringe mean”?

    infringe |inˈfrinj|
    verb [ trans. ]
    actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.) : making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright.
    • act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on : his legal rights were being infringed | [ intrans. ] I wouldn’t infringe on his privacy.

    Finally we need to remind little harry that bad bills and crooked deals do have consequences!

  • colliemum

    So if it’s not in Obamacare – why do we hear from so many people that their doctors ask them again and again if they own guns?

    Fishy, no?

    • Smeethow

      I’d ask the doc why he or she wants to know ? What do they plan on doing with the information and depending on the answers try to find a new one. It’s none of their business anyway.

  • aposematic

    Ends justify the means = Politics

  • pdxlady

    The dems are well practiced in changing our vocabulary and the meaning of words to make it sound more benign to the uninformed.

    DemSpeak is “evolving;” for everyone else it is “flip-flopping.”

    “Revenues,” are “taxes” and any other way of separating the peasants from their own money.

    and, What is the meaning of “is? “

  • So, how is this going to work now? If Biden wants stricter gun control laws passed, will they have to kill Obamacare to get it through Congress? It will be fun to watch how they try and pull this law out of Obamacare, because now it IS law since it was already passed by Congress. And I doubt Reid either has the votes or really wants to pull this provision out of the Obamacare law. This problem couldn’t happen to a “nicer” person. I hope Reid chokes on it.

  • Lives4Freedom

    REID: “We need to accept the reality that we’re not doing enough to protect our citizens.”

    If you mean that we are not respecting the 2nd Amendment enough to allow our citizens to defend themselves against the criminally violent, then yes.

    If you mean to say that gun free zones don’t work, then yes.

    Reid did an excellent job covering his butt with such a generic statement. He is correct, but what is he REALLY saying? 🙂

  • suzy000

    Wait a sec….if Obama issues an Exec. order…it will have to be worded very carefully not to be in conflict with the Obamacare Act AND the Second Amendment. This will be interesting to see how all this pans out. I guess it is time that SCOTUS will be visited again soon.

  • sDee

    This regime is intentionally inciting eventual police action against law abiding citizens. So even if they choose legal trickery, including executive orders, or even repeal of the Second Amendment to do that, it does not change their motivation nor what will ensue.

    This is all going to get more dangerous and as it does, we have to keep paramount that the Second Amendment does not give us the right to bear arms – the Second Amendment prohibits the Federal Government from interfering with that right.

    No matter what this regime does, no matter what channels they choose to persecute us through, Second Amendment or not……….we will always have the right to bear arms and to resist anyone who tries to take it away.

    “criticisms of the idea of insurrection …. it will never get off the ground, or, it will destroy the country”

    the insurrection must make it understood that the right to arms is ancient, as ancient as the right of self defense, and that it is part of our political heritage secured well before the creation of this nation. i was careful to say the right to arms is “constitutionally protected,” and is not a “constitutional right” in the sense that the right was “created” by the second amendment, or its origins are in the second amendment. the origins of the right to arms is not in the second amendment, it did not create them, and they preceded the document: congress is prescribed from interfering with something that pre-existed congress. the right to arms precedes the second amendment, and goes back to the magna carta, and arises out of historical abuses in english history, when english catholics tried to disarm english protestants, and the protestants likewise tried to disarm the catholics some time later.

  • Congrats, Scoop!
    you were just mentioned on Rush talking abou this article. i hope you realize what a big impact you have made! 😀

    • Scoop’s getting linked at some link-listing sites, too. He was highlit by twitchy the other day.

      Scoop is everywhere!

  • well

    gear up for impeachment first

  • Senator Harry Reid; a.k.a. Prince Harry.
    A senile old fart that should be put far out to pasture, with nothing but a rocking chair.
    One of the worst, if not the worst Senate Majority Leader in modern history!

  • Dang! I guess they really did have to pass it to find out what was in it.

  • Nothing to see her folks! Just another Liberal Hypocrite! This time it’s Harry Reid! It appears he was for Gun Rights before he was against them! In that “Pass it so we can find out what’s in it” ObamaTax it looks like ol Harry inserted some pork to prohibit the feds from collecting any info on lawful gun owners, but now all of a sudden he’s against it!

  • Harry Reid is a Mormon. Looks like that White Horse prophecy may have some meat to it after all! Now we know why Roberts voted the way he did… HE is Mormon also!

  • Now we know why Roberts voted the way he did… HE is Mormon also!

    • clockwindingdown

      Please do explain your bigotry, we are dying to hear it!

      Let us change the word “Mormon” for “Man”, yep still bigoted!

      You see your argument has nothing to do with facts, it is a distraction, a change of subject.

      Just to remind you debra, the story is about harry reid. “The Senate majority leader’s views on gun control are changing. He’s in a different place than he was in 2010,”. In other words he was for the 2nd amendment before he got elected and became against the 2nd amendment. I didn’t see anything about being a Mormon!

      Good ole little harry one can always count on him to do what is needed to get elected. I bet he had his fingers crossed during his endorsement from the NRA, so it really didn’t count his being for the 2nd amendment an all…

  • Jay

    Don’t worry, the gubberment won’t let a little thing like a law get in the way of their agenda.

  • When, oh when will these hypocritcal government types surrender every weapon THEY have in compliance with their precious king oops I mean president? If Obama hates guns so mch let him be the first to disarm every government offical first and then broadcast it and call Congress and every government builsing a complete un free zone meaning no one there has a weapon! Hey it works so well for schools and guns are so evil, let the dems lead by example like they did with America’s nuclear disarmanent, nukes are bad nukes kill unless it’s cancer pateints then the badness and killing and radiation is ok right?! And s disarmin will get us fried qicker by other country’s weapons, oops I mean et other countries to disarm too! (gigle snort) still can’t say that with a straight face. How ’bout it Obama? Everyone should be happy with you because you gave them their free cell phones to re-elect you so get rid of YOUR guns and weapons of any kind!

  • kong1967

    Just like politicians to stick things in bills that don’t belong there. 2nd amendment protection has nothing to do with Obamacare, but Reid stuck it in there so we’ll take it.

    It’ll just be a “bump in the road” for Obama to go around it. Dems are playing with fire.

  • utah_1

    Is anyone going to bother to read the whole section. It looks like it limits the Feds only in connection to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
    that Act.

    See page 39 and 40 in the pdf or pages 20 and 21 as numbered.

  • Suzyqpie

    I believe that I detect a pattern…when it is Republican it is flip-flop. When it is Democrat it is evolving. Somehow evolution is sanctioned, flipping is vilified. Uh, how does such hypocrisy survive and thrive? 0bama’s Basij, aka MSM, promotes, supports, and endorses this behavior. Reid will skate. ACA is a stew, it is still cooking, “The Secretary shall determine…..” ACA, aka, RobertsTaxEvolving. Forward. Math is coming.