ZoNation: Dr. Ben Carson and his Biblical tax

Zo loves the fact that Ben Carson took it to Obama the other day at the prayer breakfast but he has some disagreement on his biblical tax idea.


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  • Another home run!!!

  • TexasPGRRider

    THANKS for the ZO FIX Scoop !!!!

  • c4pfan

    I love Zo! Awesome & loved how he pointed out Obama was in the chair this time.

  • PVG

    How can we possibly have a messaging problem with guys like ZO? Brilliant!

    • proverbs2611

      Because it’s the GOP Establishment sitting on its arse waiting for Rove or Canton to come up with something smart to say.

      • honestynow

        I just got a “Republican Survey” (although I’m an indep. and not a Rep.) and can’t wait to blast them on their poor messaging (and more). We need more Zos and Dr. Ben Carsons out front.

    • OneThinDime

      If the GOP were smart, not saying they are, they would buy air time for Zo!

    • c4pfan

      Because, he’s only shown on PJ TV?

  • white531

    I don’t know where he came from, or what it was, that lit his fire, but the guy is great.

    • Conniption Fitz

      God lit that fire in Alfonzo’s soul.

  • OneThinDime

    For anyone with a Kindle, his book is available but it the book not the audio

    • proverbs2611

      I might buy a Kindle just for his book. Awesome post.

      • OneThinDime

        Love my Kindle Fire HD, first purchase was Chris Kyle’s book. I just wish Zo’s was the audio book. I’m going to tweet and see if he is working on the audio for Kindle.

      • c4pfan

        You don’t need a Kindle to read the e books! Just download the app to your PC!

    • c4pfan

      I was wondering, if it was! Thanks.

  • Joe

    Correct as usual!

  • c4pfan

    Anyone else want to have Alfonzo at CPAC?

    • 1776 Freedom Fighter

      I’m with you, c4pfan; to see Alfonzo at CPAC would be a tour de force!

      He’s the **worst nightmare** of a lib: they call him a “self-hater”? Ha! The only hatred is coming from the libs, and directed at our nation.

      God bless you, Zo; keep fighting the good fight!

  • JohnCraven

    Once again, Zonation is brilliant!

    John Craven
    New Orleans

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  • tinlizzieowner

    ‘Zo’ nails it again, as usual. 😉

  • Kordane

    Taxation will always be a violation of Man’s unalienable individual rights. The founding fathers should have opted for a system of voluntary donation (a funding method that doesn’t violate individual rights) — Instead of tariffs and excise taxes (whiskey).

    I think that if you limited government down to the singular role of protecting individual rights (as the founders intended), and hence limited government to running the army, police and court system (ie. minarchism), then it would be a very cheap government to run, as opposed to the expensive monstrosity we have today. It would be possible to fund it through voluntary donation, and in times of war you could always appeal to the American people to donate more, so as to fund it. If the people agreed with the war and then agreed with its continued operation, then they’d continue donating for it. Likewise, if the people don’t agree with the war, or don’t agree with its continued operation, then they’d stop donating for it.

    If you stop taxing people and you in effect leave a whole load more money in people’s pockets, then they’ll be far far more willing to donate to fund the government than they would be if they knew they were already being taxed by it.

    I hear the issue of the “free rider problem”, but three are over 300 million people here. There will be more than enough people who aren’t free riders to fund the government. Also, richer folks (especially people who run businesses) have more to lose if those essential government services (army, police and courts) aren’t being run, so they’d be more willing to donate, and donate large sums.

    There are other methods of voluntary funding too, such as a national lottery.

    • NCHokie02

      Not sure I agree with donating as some people wouldn’t give anything no matter what and the people who were poor probably wouldn’t donate anything either. The problem with people not funding a war is that peoples lives are at risk there. When you stop funding it the troops stop receiving equipment, food, ammunition and pay. The enemy doesn’t stop fighting because you are low on ammo or food or fuel or maintenance related equipment. I believe the founders put in the excise taxes and tariffs to have a guaranteed flow of money to fund the government for it’s services, military being the primary one. I’m assuming you are lumping state governments into the group when you say “government” because the federal government has no business funding police our the courts unless they are a federal court or the FBI. But thats it.

      • Kordane

        I am lumping states in with that. When the founders said that individual rights were unalienable, they MEANT unalienable — Not, “unalienable…. unless the government needs money really really badly!” — Which is the argument that people have unfortunately accepted.

        Sure, there would be a load of free riders, especially amongst the poor, but that’s Ok, because I think there would be enough donations, especially amongst wealthy individuals, to make up for it.

        I’m pretty poor, but I’d donate some money to fund the legitimate functions (army, police, courts) because I know that those functions are protecting my individual rights, as opposed to violating them.

        You have to realize that people would be a LOT richer because they wouldn’t be taxed anymore and wouldn’t be regulated by the government anymore, and so they’d be far more open to donating to it than they would be under current circumstances. There are a lot of patriotic people out there who would not only donate money themselves, but would “rally” people to donate too, especially during times of war.

        Ultimately, wars must be fought with the support of the people. It’s a great way for the people to regulate what wars the government fights, and how the government fights them. Foreign affairs needs to be decided by the people, not by a bunch of self-serving politicians and special interests. I trust the people to do the right thing. I do not trust politicians to.

  • armyvet10

    Like most here have already stated, excellent video once again from this young common sensed person.

    All people of this nation should be evaluated not on the color of their skin, but on the contents of their heart. I believe this causes more pain to liberals than anything else.

    When it comes to the government and taxes, I often use this rodeo analogy to show how the government has become a bully.

    A rodeo cowboy knows that once a horse throws you off, they immediately look for a way out so they can be gone. Our government is like the bull at a rodeo, once they get the rider off their back, the bull then looks for anyone they can inflict more pain on.

    A just government should be like the horse, once they have collected a just rate of taxes, they should just gallop away back to the stall / capitol. But our government is like the bull, once they have extracted as many taxes as they can and throws the rider off, the bull, our government, turns around looking to extract / take even more.

    Our government wants to be viewed as kind and accepting, when in fact they are nothing more than a bull(y) and full of it.

  • 911Infidel

    Dr Carson is a breath of fresh air. I wouldn’t mind having a Doc as President. At least we’d have someone in the WH who doesn’t sit on his brain every day like Skeeter does.

    Oh and I got to admit that I don’t give a %^$%#@#$%^ about Chris Rock.

    Good one Zo.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Be aware that Ben Carson is advocating National Healthcare – aka socialized medicine. It doesn’t work and doesn’t result in good quality care – for anyone.

    Also, Dr. Carson’s 10% tax plan for everyone with no deductions. That would be hardest on poor and middle class. Not a good idea. It would be better to have a 2-4-6-8-10% tax with some deductions for home interest, church/charity, catastrophic health expenses, child education savings, etc.

    Dr. Carson is not advocating a conservative position in those areas – health care and taxes.

    On the plus side Dr. Carson is very conservative about personal responsibility, education, scientific evidence as opposed to political correctness, religious liberty, welfare reform and morality.

    • No. The numbers you laid out are a “progressive” tax rate. It is irrelevant what the rates are, if those on the higher end are punished by higher rates and those on the low end (who receive all the goodies) still pay virtually nothing.

      If you make $10,000, you pay $1000. If you make $1,000,000, you pay $100,000. No loopholes, no deducations. Everyone pays the same rate. Everyone has “skin in the game” and thus will be less willing for demagouges to raise rates.

      The epitomy of “fair share”. How you can say that’s not a conservative position is beyond me. A “progressive” scale that “wouldn’t hurt the low or middle class” sounds like a RINO position (at best), but is closer to the Campaigner in Chief’s.

      I’m personally thinking leaving some deductions for home ownership and child care hould be left in, but when did it become a “conservative position on taxes” to be for a PROGRESSIVE tax rate ?

      As far as his being for “nationalized healthcare”, I would appreciate if you could post links showing that. I saw remarks about having a physician/ patient relationship and getting the middle man OUT of it.

      All that said, many people were in love with Colin Powell as a candidate, so we should wait and see with ALL potential candidates.

      • waytngtym

        10% tax rate, or similar, decriminalizes all tax issues, gets rid of the IRS, gets rid of endless useless discussions on the Hill and everywhere else, and is equally levied on all. Simpliciy, fairness ands cost-effectciveness exemplified.

        Let’s not waste anymore time.

    • http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/a-must-see-video-of-dr-ben-carson-shredding-socialized-medicine/

      For “socialized medicine” ? How can you watch his remarks in front of the PResident and conclude he’s for socialized medicine ?

    • c4pfan

      He said personal health saving accounts. What are you talking about?

    • Conservative_Utopia

      I’ve watched some indepth Carson interviews lately and have to disagree. What he proposes in health savings accounts and catastrophic coverage would be a vast improvement over the socialism we now experience, forget about what’s coming. He is a local competition advocate and getting fed regulators out of the way.

      As far as income tax goes, if conservatism is taken full course, we will end up with a fed consumption tax of 10% instead of penalizing production (and a 90% smaller fed gov’t, ha ha). A flat tax is a great step in that direction.

      Seems hard to argue with Carson’s proposed direction compared to our current one or conservatism in general.

    • Sorry Fitz but I have to disagree with you here. I have never ever heard Carson advocate for socialized medicine.

      How would a 10% tax plan hurt the middle class when they already pay way more than that?

      As to the poor they need to have some skin in the game and just maybe they won’t so frivolously and quickly vote to pick people’s pockets when it is theirs getting picked. Besides they use the services per capita more than any other group. As Ben Carson said “God didn’t say if you are poor skip the tithe”. We have given the poor a free pass far too long in this country and have done them a disservice by making them comfortable in their poverty.

  • tinlizzieowner

    ANYTHING BUT a flat tax will keep the tax lawyers wealthy and the general populace poor.
    I’m not a ‘rich’ man but I’m not a poor man either. I own gold, I own silver, I own stocks, I own bonds, I own a couple houses outright, I’ve got about $40,000 worth of custom cars to ‘play’ with. Yet every year for about the last 6, I’ve been loosing money? How can that be? It’s simple. My houses are worth a lot less but the taxes on them have not decreased in a corresponding manner. My stocks earnings are barely keeping up with inflation. I’ve had to cash in some of my gold to try to keep my children’s head’s above water because they are ‘too rich’ to be able to apply for all the ‘goodies’ Obama is so willing to give to those who don’t have any ‘skin in the game’, while their cost of living and their taxes continue to rise.
    Do I have (an expensive) tax lawyer working on my taxes right now, to see that I use every possible deduction to keep this government taking any more of the assets I’ve been working so hard to keep and pass on to my children all these years? Of course I do.

    • Conservative_Utopia

      Very well put.

      • tinlizzieowner

        The only things I own that are still appreciating in value, (aside from the gold and sliver I keep having to sell to make ends meet), are my 1927 Ford and my 1960 Rambler but there’s a problem there too. These aren’t Barrett/Jackson, Jay Leno, quality cars and the number of people with the kind of ‘disposable income’ it takes to buy cars like this, is steadily decreasing.
        I’m 67 years old and I’ve had to take on a part time job because the Social Security I’ve been paying into for the last half century, won’t cover the the utilities, the grocery bills and the taxes anymore. I’d sell my Boston Whaler fishing boat if I could get half of what it’s worth but there’s no ‘normal people’ left who can afford to buy it?
        Enough of my whining, I’m far from being the only ‘senior citizen’ in this spot. 🙁
        Obama and the rest of the free spending liberals in Washington have got to go. I have to balance my checkbook, the government should have to balance the national checkbook too.

    • Well said!

      I am for flat tax for a number of economic reasons but I am for it for a fundamental philosophical reason…WE ARE A NATION BASED ON EQUALITY NOT FAIRNESS. Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief…we are all equal under the eyes of the law.

      • tinlizzieowner

        The thieves seem to be a little more ‘equal’ these days. 🙁

  • tinlizzieowner

    Taxes? What taxes?

    (thanks American born in Canada). 😉

  • Nannv

    Go Zo, Go Zo, Go Zo!!! Thank you for your common sense approach!!!

  • LibelFreeZone