2012 Presidential Candidate Straw Poll

I’ve included everyone that I believe is considering a run for 2012 so this should be a comprehensive list. I want this to be a practical list so please don’t email me about Allen West. He’s not running. Also, I can’t change the list once it’s posted because that wouldn’t be fair.



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USCENE86
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USCENE86

ADD……… JESSE VENTURA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Westley Taylor
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Westley Taylor

Seriously, Trump is one of the lowest? The only real businessman here who has a set of balls. Vote for Trump people.

Steve Ayers
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Steve Ayers

Why don’t you add candidates, such as Paul Ryan, 2Rick Perry and Jeb Bush. Make it a choice.

Ridzhorsez89
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Ridzhorsez89

RON PAUL CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY.

Vern Wuensche
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Vern Wuensche

Why not take a look at a candidate already filed whom noone knows but who ran a serious race in 2008 and WAS NOT a vanity candidate. Myself. http://www.voteforvern.com No vanity candidate doing it for ego or to impress his friends would trudge through snow and ice for much of the 100 days I did visiting 6,000 businesses in 242 towns in Iowa and New Hampshire. I spent a total of $36,000 from an equity loan on my home. I have two degrees am a CPA and have had the practical experience of running a business I founded 35 years ago. I STRONGLY believe that non wealthy non celebrities can do a better job than those elected who are. Unless you have awakened in the middle of the night worried about paying your mortgage at least once in your life you do not understand the average American who has. Particularly… Read more »

Vern Wuensche
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Vern Wuensche

Why not take a look at a candidate already filed whom noone knows but who ran a serious race in 2008 and WAS NOT a vanity candidate. Myself. http://www.voteforvern.com No vanity candidate doing it for ego or to impress his friends would trudge through snow and ice for much of the 100 days I did visiting 6,000 businesses in 242 towns in Iowa and New Hampshire. I spent a total of $36,000 from an equity loan on my home. I have two degrees am a CPA and have had the practical experience of running a business I founded 35 years ago. I STRONGLY believe that non wealthy non celebrities can do a better job than those elected who are. Unless you have awakened in the middle of the night worried about paying your mortgage at least once in your life you do not understand the average American who has. Particularly… Read more »

ahughes
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ahughes

The only reason you don’t put Ron Paul on this poll is because you know he will win. How can you call Ron Paul supporters hijackers when are doing merly the same as you by supporting our candidate. You people need to wake up and quit voting for the same neocon with a different name. There is no real difference between any of these candidates on this list. They all have the same ideas. Lame poll.

RonPaulRocks!
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RonPaulRocks!

Ron Paul 2012!

Newyork197020
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Newyork197020

Part 2 ……… Mitt Romney – stiff and unable to make any flip-flop case against Obam because he is one himself. Plus Romneycare=Obamacare (and don’t think the who-better-me-to-know-why-Obamacare-should-be-repealed strategy can work n a national scale. It won’t. Aside from that, he’s trying hard to be presidential but he just ain’t got it. He’d go down in flames against Obam. Huckabee – in some ways the best of the lot RIGHT NOW. Well-liked, seen as honest, has a record, few gaffes, speaks well. Something tells me he might gain steam but will fall short, plus there are countless people who never elect a minister as POTUS. And the media – they’d milk that angle for all it’s worth. Still though a very likeable guy. Newt Gingrich – brilliant thinker. Best for policy and strategy. Won’t be POTUS as the media and many others would be turned off by his personal life… Read more »

Newyork197020
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Newyork197020

My dear friends, On the one hand, I am hopeful because of the energy and passion out there that desires to start this country on a path back to greatness. On the other hand, I am distressed at the lack of true and ready (properly prepared, seasoned) leaders who ALSO have the command of oratory, charisma, faith, and non-problematic backgrounds to win next year and lead this truly great republic. Many have written about the same choices again and again, so allow me to comment on those. I know this hurt some of you. I do not mean to do that but rather speak openly now rather than have our cause be defeated later. Sarah Palin – when I first read about her a month before McCain picked her, I was excited and curious. Good start with convention speech, but frankly downhill after that. Yes she held her own in… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I am just astounded at all the energy going toward Ron Paul in these comments. Let’s use it for something doable and stop being sidetracked.

I am a big libertarian myself but that is too far out for most people. We need to get practical and stop buying into the old news media and all their negative.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

If these straw poll threads are any indication this election will be a political “bloodbath”.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

She’s just like Reagan and Maggie Thatcher.

Arnaldo
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Arnaldo

Kool-aid is flowing heavily tonight! Small government people worshipping at the altars of POLITICIANS? Oh the irony…you should be ashamed of yourselves. Grow up!
You Paul and Palin (and West, to a lesser extent) supporters act like you’re picking the next American Idol winner, just like the idiotarian Obamabots!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Just a general question to all the Paul supporters. Has Ron Paul announced his intention to run or form an exploratory committee? I’ve yet to hear that he has, the only sites seem to be “fan” sites or sites from his congressional campaign. The “grassroots” petition site that is trying to get 100,000 signatures asking him to run has only managed 30,691 signatures so far. That doesn’t hold out much hope that he will declare based on that level of support. I’d be willing to bet the Palin supporters could do that within a week’s time, if they were to choose to do so.

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

Many of the potential candidates have announced officially that they are running. According to the Seattle Times “Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul says he hasn’t ruled out running for president again but he’s not on the verge of making a decision.” Rand also said “there’s a 50-50 chance one of them will run for president.” Sounds like a lot of other candidates at this time – hasn’t made a decision yet. However, Ron Paul was just in Iowa like a lot of other potential candidates.

JD
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JD

Palin is the next POTUS if she wants it. How they treated Reagan. Time Magazine – March 31, 1980 “National opinion polls continue to show Carter leading Reagan by an apparently comfortable margin of about 25%. They also show that more moderate Republicans like Ford would run better against the President. This suggests that Reagan is not the strongest G.O.P. choice for the November election and that he clearly faces an uphill battle.” “Party operatives are plainly unhappy with his selection. In Massachusetts, where both Bush and Anderson defeated Reagan, party leaders are not yet reconciled to the Reagan candidacy. Says one: “There’s a vacuum of leadership at the national level; and what appears to be the Republican Party’s response? A 69-year-old man who has done virtually nothing for years” “Reagan has a history of committing rhetorical blunders that drive away voters. His quest in 1976 was damaged when he… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

This is priceless! Thank you. A dose of reality.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

This is priceless! Thank you. A dose of reality.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Sarah Palin is The Political Leader Most Intelligent, Strong, Honest, Understandable, Sweet and Respectful of The United States NOW ….

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Without wishing to sound absurd or as if preaching, America needs ultimate honesty, integrity, honor along with common sense, a concrete constitutional belief, unattached to special interests (meaning environmentalists by example) deep commitment to energy independence, very limited government, unbiased courts at all levels, prudence and frugality as a way of life, grit and a spine reqarding foreign policy, straight talker saying what you mean and meaning what you say, fearless and purposeful without a political agenda nor desire for re-election. Considering all of the above, understanding that every candidate is human, I simply cannot find anyone more qualified than Sarah Palin. We will be very very lucky if she even considers running and as far as I’m concerned based on lots of indepth research and completely ingoring all the hype, all the smears, all the lies, all the false criticism, all the amazing character and grace she’s exhibited throughout… Read more »

Dave Kawasaki
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Dave Kawasaki

Ha.

Tom
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Tom

Your poll is a joke. You only place the candiates that you would like. Ron Paul has the ground troops and the ability to raise funds that most on your list do not have. He has been in Iowa and New Hampshire the last week and is seriously considering another run. We need a true constitutional conservative in office. Not a retread or a neo-con that wants to kill more people in far off exotic places.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

You Paul supporters are almost as annoying as the “Palingaters”, the vast majority of you that have descended on this site have never bothered to comment on this site. All I have seen out of the vast majority of you is name calling and whining, no statements of Paul’s positions or why you think he would be a viable candidate. What do you just sit around running searches for references to his name so you can swamp the site with your whining? If you don’t like the poll go elsewhere and find a poll to descend on or better yet start your own site and you can make your own poll and populate how ever you like.

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

I come to this site daily & support Ron Paul 100%. Where do you come up with this stuff? I’ve stated several times why he is a viable candidate – his message is the TRUE tea party message. In fact, everyone after him is only parroting what’s he’s been saying for over 20 years. Go back and listen to him talk about the issues years ago. It seems MANY republicans saw how powerful his message was in the ’08 presidential campaign and copied it. Whether they are genuine or not, I don’t know. Without Ron Paul, there is NO tea party. I’m not whining, I just wonder how conservatives have been duped into believing what certain media has done to marginalize him. Again, I have to wonder if it has to do with the FED. Did you watch what G. Edward Griffin (author of “The creature from Jekyll Island”) had… Read more »

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

G. Edward Griffin even talked about Ronald Reagan trying to go against the FED. It’s just not done because they have the power to put the country in ruins plus it looks like these private bankers stole America’s gold. I guess we aren’t concerned about that?

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Griffin also said what it would take to end the Fed, and a President cannot do it, it will take an act of congress as it was an act of congress that created it.

Cheryl~
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Cheryl~

That is why Paul is consistantly bringing this issue up before Congress!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

That is precisely what he should be doing aside from building a coalition of other members of congress that support the idea.

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

Where have you been? It reveals where members of congress really are when he gets support to Audit the FED, then those same people won’t vote for it (all of the sudden). Ron Paul is the real deal and he’s spent 20+ years consistently proving it. NO ONE ELSE HAS HIS RECORD. The problem is that too many politicians will not go against the FED and I think that shows their hand!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I have been around long enough to know that congress is never going to audit or end the Fed. The call for this has been going on longer than Ron Paul has been in congress. I’m pretty sure I remember Goldwater calling for the same thing, it didn’t happen for him,it won’t happen for Paul.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

You are absolutely right. Ron Paul recently said as much. He isn’t lacking a realistic outlook, just knows that it is the fight that he has to fight.

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

Then, you haven’t listened to Ron Paul, because he has said AS president, he would communicate to the American people AND congress the NEED for certain changes in government and getting everyone on board to make some of these things happen. OF course, he can’t do it alone. It seems to me you know very little about what he actually believes and what he has actually said.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Communicating change? Doesn’t sound any different than what we heard from the candidate that won the election last time around and look what that has gotten us. You assume a great deal, I’ve heard what he has to say and as I have said I agree with much of what he has said which much of it is the standard Libertarian fare. However if he cannot muster his fellow congressmen and women and motivate them to move in that direction just what would he achieve as President,if he could get the parties nomination,which I will state here and now as clearly for you as I can, a snowball in hell has a better chance of staying frozen than Ron Paul has of winning the GOP’s nomination. That is not being mean or nasty purely a statement of fact. He is just too far towards a Libertarian to win over the… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I see what Mr. Montana means. This could get annoying.

Just how would this person who has been proven over and over to be unelectable communicate as President to the American people? Let’s see.

Oh forget it. I have to go now.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

I would like to see him run just to get people informed through debates and speeches. He embarrassed the likes of Romney, McCain, Guiliani, and even Huckabee. He got standing ovations at these events while doing it. He actually got me worked up and gave me hope for a little while. An emotional response, I know, but it was good for a while.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I come up with this “stuff” as you call it by monitoring threads on this site,reading the comments and noting those who post them. Perhaps you should reread what I posted carefully and if it does not apply to you then do not worry about it. However I still disagree that Ron Paul is a viable candidate, his past performances in the elections have shown that to be true,sorry if you don’t see it that way,but this is the GOP nomination we are talking about not the Libertarian Party nomination. Rep. Paul may have an R behind his name officially but in reality an L would be more appropriate, not that their is anything wrong with being a Libertarian but Paul just can not garner the support in the GOP to win the nomination.

Cheryl~
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Cheryl~

I hear you Amy and agree with you!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Ron Paul is not an attractive candidate and that is why he continues to poll so low in every poll, including his previous runs for President. I would hope you guys would now begin to look for a viable candidate.

Fed Up in Texas
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Fed Up in Texas

I would bet EVERYONE of you commentators that , as much as I hate to say it , Sambo Obama will be RE-ELECTED in 2012….strictly on the basis of the SEIU…..look at Harry ” the weasel ” Reid in Nevada…..he was TRAILING Sharon Angle right up to voting time and then the SEIU came in to ” monitor ” the election and Angle ends up losing….once Sambo pulls in ACORN , the SEIU , the NAACP , black panthers, nation of islam….it will turn in his favor…..CORRUPTION…..and after all , there’s NOBODY better at corruption than the dems……….it’s THEIR game…….

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I think he may be reelected because Repubs refuse to get behind the obvious winner, Ms. Palin. They are picking her to shreds, or at least trying to.

Fed Up in Texas
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Fed Up in Texas

Well ,said , MLCBLOG….the left knows that she’s smart and won’t back down….and that FRIGHTENS them…..the repubs look at her as a woman…..where is it written that a woman can’t run this country ?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Wow, nice racist name calling, you sickening degenerate.

Fed Up in Texas
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Fed Up in Texas

I was waiting for one of you left-wing pigs to come out of your sty and use the race card…..if I’m sickening because of a tag before a name , then you must HATE liberals because that is the norm for them…..oh , wait ….I forgot……it’s OKAY for YOU to do it……..sorry…….It’s not what I’M saying that should bother you….it’s what the LIBERALS are doing to our country that should disturb you…..oops , sorry again….! You’re ONE of them…………..oink ! oink !

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If you think I’m a Liberal, you’re as new here and dumb as I thought. Racism is sickening no matter the ideology of the racist.

Keep up the crap, you Moby.

Williehayes
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Williehayes

No Randy Johnson. He’s the best candidate by far. Nice.

Eddie
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Eddie

I cannot in good conscience vote in this poll. There aren’t any true Patriots in the bunch. Allen West is the only true Patriot capable of fixing what ails America. I will vote for him whether his name is on the ballot or not. I will NEVER vote for another RINO like I did last time and waste my vote. I intend to write in Allen West name even if he’s not on the ballot.

Bill589
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Bill589

Palin loves the United States and is proud to be an American. This is evident in her writings and behaviour for decades. I like West too. But it is Sarah who beat the corrupt Republicans and oil companies in Alaska and got rid of the corruption. She has the track record and proven executive skills to also do this in D.C. I would vote for West over most others, and would be happy if he was picked for vp, and I think he will make a great president in the future. Just not yet.

Cheryl~
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Cheryl~

She couldn’t push McCain over the edge and she won’t beat Obama! The conservatives in this country along with the Republicans are a fractured group. I don’t know that they will be able to pull together over one person to get Obama out of the White House.

myfairlady
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myfairlady

That’s because his campaign team tied her hands behind her back. She was 2 on that ticket, not #1. It was up to him to get their team over the finish line–not her. What a crock!

Cheryl~
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Cheryl~

I think they knew she was not as learned in some things and as a last minute ‘hail mary pass’ so to speak they didn’t want her to say much-as it was not everyone in the country agreed with McCain’s choice of vp! She just was so much better than him, but not enough to sway those needed votes.

crosshr
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crosshr

O last year tried his best to repeat 2008 campaign ,hoping to affect the outcome of the election,…..Folks, he FAILED MISERABLY and for Pailin , 60% took seating around both house. The country is wide awake today. Is O have new attractive profitable bussiness proposals and policy the country now may ever get excited to jump both feet and support.What energy policy O can out manuver Palin with, no drill or reject all permitt application for drill, Obamacare, any body here is getting excited for our foreign policy of America the Arogant.
The Tea Party, many conservative, independent from both party are all interested in restoring and preserving America the land they call home.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Palin is the next POTUS if she wants it, blogged by JD March 2011 on The Right Scoop. Above, here. How they treated Reagan. Time Magazine – March 31, 1980 “National opinion polls continue to show Carter leading Reagan by an apparently comfortable margin of about 25%. They also show that more moderate Republicans like Ford would run better against the President. This suggests that Reagan is not the strongest G.O.P. choice for the November election and that he clearly faces an uphill battle.” “Party operatives are plainly unhappy with his selection. In Massachusetts, where both Bush and Anderson defeated Reagan, party leaders are not yet reconciled to the Reagan candidacy. Says one: “There’s a vacuum of leadership at the national level; and what appears to be the Republican Party’s response? A 69-year-old man who has done virtually nothing for years” “Reagan has a history of committing rhetorical blunders that… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Eddie, if you give Palin a truly honest and indepth review you’ll find much of your opinions of her promoted by the incredilble amount of propoganda and spin from both the far left, left and some subtle but damaging words also from the right. They fear her and thus one hell of a good reason for you and I to support her IF she graces us with a commitment to run. America would be lucky to have her as President. sure its up to you but I fear you’ve been agenda twisted into thinking she’s a same o same o but she is far from that and we all would benefit from her Presidency, regards…

Cheryl~
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Cheryl~

It isn’t just the far left that doesn’t agree with you. You don’t seem to understand that there are a lot of people that don’t view her as a viable option for a variety of reasons. If all you had to worry about was the far left then she would be a shoe in and we wouldn’t be having this conversation! Now, if she were the candidate for the Republican party I am certain a lot of people would get behind her and vote for her just to get O out of office-but I don’t know if those that have their reasons for not liking her and the independents would come around and vote for her because they wanted to get rid of O. I think with SP you either love her or hate her (for the office that is!)

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Very good observation. My ex, who normally hates politics and has no interest, and when pushed on an issue usually comes out Libertarian, voted for Obama in 2008 because she didn’t want McCain to die in office and leave Palin.

A lot of people see Obama as the lesser of two evils when paired against Palin.

I personally contend there is VERY LITTLE substantive difference between any of the candidates on either side, but I’m a dangerous nutjob. =P

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Mr. Tumser! What are you doing out of your room? Nurse Ratchett! Nurse Ratchett!! smile

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You’ll never take me alive!!!

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Where is that dart gun????????????

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Quick! give him a sedative.

Nurse R

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Oh noes! Not you too, MLC!?

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Why does “Operation Mindcrime” suddenly come to mind here?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Lol, I had to wiki that, and I don’t have the first clue. =P

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Always, Daniel! just took me a while to figure it out.

Too much of that guy you parrot perhaps.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Haha, which guy is that? Ludwig Von Mises, FA Hayek, Frederic Bastiat, David Friedman, Murray Rothbard, William Godwin, Hans-Hermann Hoppe?

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Mr. Tumser! What are you doing out of your room? Nurse Ratchett! Nurse Ratchett!! smile

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Thanks Cheryl, I appreciate the feedback. Perhaps you’re right but I also think your thoughts prove my point. I wasn’t just speaking to those from the far left or democrats or honestly anyone in particular. My belief is that EVERYONE got a badf taste from all the horiffic battering she endured and I think it worked to some degree sadly. I didn’t get you’re reasons fwhy you personally wouldn’t support her candidacy or choose Sarah to even run so I cannot discuss why I think your opinion might be gilded but I really do believe if voters would actually investigate her as well as any of the other potential candidates, they’d find she would rise to the top in every category but especially in the areas of integrity, honesty, grit, unabased christian beliefs, traditional family values, tough spine, high honorable character, outspoken and unafraid such that she would do the… Read more »

Celeste Christi
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Celeste Christi

Palin-West 2012!!

Idahoser
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Idahoser

Palin/West ’12

simple thought
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simple thought

i like TRUMP, he just seems to have the attitude of most of us ……….
were fed up, fair trade, not free trade, build our own supplies, quit sending it away….we need our manufractureing base rebuilt…..we work were happy.
and right now were not happy, mainstreet relizes there’s a depression

emily ,,,,missouri

RebinTexas
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RebinTexas

If you read all the positions and Op-eds by Sarah, you will come to understand just how intelligent she is, how much her basic instinct is for what is good for this country, what is best for all its citizens. And, to Paul supporter, keep in mind that Sarah has some certain aspects of Libertarianism within her and I believe is a candidate that both Pauls could and would support. She does not play the victim – yep, she speaks up to correct all the purposely incorrect meme of the ‘lsm’ – because she wants everyone to know – the truth – and to truly know what she believes and how she would work. If you study her record as Gov in Alaska – she served all the people and accomplished a tremendous amount before she was forced to resign so her state could go forth and operate as necessary… Read more »

123sigh
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123sigh

might as well put barack obama…

Jim Recchia
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Jim Recchia

Ron Paul will be 77-years-old next year. Ron Paul will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER win a single primarly state.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Good grief man. Stop beating around the bush and get to the point. Are you saying Paul can’t win?

jus’ messin’ with ya’

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Nothing else to do? I’d like to see you use your energy constructively.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

…and this is how you define that? Practice what you preach there little camper.

not jus’ messin with ya’

Janis
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Janis

So if the Republicans put up Sarah Palin against Obama, we will have another four years of this Communist in the White House. I would pay big money to listen to Obama debate Herman Cain. Ever notice Herman Cain uses no notes or a teleprompter! My ticket is Herman Cain/Michele Bachman at the moment! Herman Cain definitely!!!!

Mediaccess
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Mediaccess

Nope! Sarah doesn’t use teleprompters either. During her first introduction, first time on the national spotlight, her teleprompter broke and she just kept on going.

John
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John

I guess the reason Ron Paul isn’t listed is because Scoop wants an idea of what the regular-visiting RightScoopers think about the presidential race – and not have it influenced by outside “stimulus packages”, so to speak :p

Anyway, out of those listed, I’d pick either Cain or Daniels. Also, I don’t think Palin is running.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

She will run

DizziNY
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DizziNY

RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blackwater
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Blackwater

Ron Paul is a racist loon. Besides hating the joooooos, he hangs out with that whack job Alex Jones too much. The man is insane.

He’s an embarrassment to the Lone Star State.

He needs to retire and go away.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The anti-semitism smear is tossed around by Conservatives and Neocons almost as much as the “racist” and “nazi” smear is used by the “Left” in this political scene. Ron Paul is critical of, aggressive to and indeed calls for the abolishing of the fed. There happens to be some jewish people working in the Federal Reserve and it’s branches and the banking chains that make it up. That somehow means Paul is an anti-semite. Ron Paul does not support sending John Doe to go die in a counter-productive, misguided, aggressive war for the benefit of Israel. He is not a subscriber to the Israel-first foreign policy which is gospel to Conservatism, neo- and paleo- alike. What’s that? Paul isn’t pro-Israel? That must mean the man is an anti-semite. And don’t even try to get around how that smear is used, it has been used against me personally for precisely that… Read more »

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Well said, the rabid “Paulians” would do well to put as much reason into their efforts supporting him rather than the screaming footstomping tantrums that they frequently use. Sadly, people seem to only remember the “smear” and never look to see the truth of the circumstance.Case in point,the controversy raised over a couple of donations to Paul from donors that turned out to be Neo-Nazis or groups allied with their view, it does not matter that once the source was discovered Paul refused the donations,they only see the source and condemned him wrongly for that. Stretching “guilt by association” to its absolute ludicrous limit.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The AIPAC and it’s allied politicians and favorite people in the media take no prisoners and have no compunction about stretching the truth until it breaks over things like that. Guilt by association works, so they use it. It’s the same tactic used to lump all non-state radical arab or Muslim groups together as somehow the same thing and all working for the same ends instead of hating the hell out of each other and killing each other on a regular basis.

I bet most people don’t even know or think about the fact that Hamas and Al Qaeda hate each other and would probably be busy killing each other if the US wasn’t providing such a prime and unifying target.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Who knows, if we were not getting in the way, we might witness Islam’s own “War of the Reformation”. It would certainly keep them out of everyone elses hair for awhile would it not?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I have no doubt the infighting of the middle east would resume. Among another AMAZING jaw-dropping mouth-watering offers* made by the Ayatollahs of Iran, they offered their assistance in Iraq on the eve of the invasion. They also wanted to help the US with Afghanistan, and almost invaded it on their own in ’98 after 13 of their diplomats were killed by the Taliban. There was a group in Gaza with a similiar ideology to Al Qaeda, and Hamas killed them all. Ayman Al-Zawahiri condemned Hamas openly for their wanting to be a State, participating in Democracy and dealing with the Israelis. The Mujahidee-e Khulq is a Marxist-Muslim organization in Iraq that fights the Ayatollahs all the time, they used to fight the Iraqis. Jundallah is a non-religious ideolgy organization of Sunni Muslims fighting for Sunni rights in Iran. Hamas was created to fight the PLO. Al Qaeda fight middle… Read more »

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

I am trying to understand where that comes from. From a position of logic, I can only determine that you are purposefully seeking a reaction from others.

Not worth any more time.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I think the Pauls are fringey. His son had/ has a Berkeley leftist radical as his campaign manager and best bud for years. Watch the company people keep.

elmerfud71
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elmerfud71

I am finding that Ron and Rand are definitely not two peas in a pod politically. They admit it, but don’t harp on it. I would probably put Rand in the neo-con tea party category.

Ron isn’t perfect, but he is bold, and consistent. He knows the fundamental reasons for why our country is going down. Compared to anyone on the mainstream republican list, he is a champion of freedom.

He crosses the threshold of people that I would vote for.

DizziNY
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DizziNY

Where is Ron Paul’s name? He won the Straw Poll again this year at CPAC. The elites do not want Dr Paul to be in charge, they arre afraid of him.

Blackwater
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Blackwater

Paul won CPAC because he bussed in a bunch of his nut job cultists who made fools of themselves all weekend. Then voted for him and left before the event was even over.

You ever noticed Herr Doktor wins all of these meaningless polls, but can’t win delegate 1 when it comes to the real contest?

No one wants that loon to be POTUS except the few cult members he’s managed to create.

Ron
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Ron

Go Ms Palin! I am excited to vote and campaign for u against Obamba in 2012.

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

I don’t see Ron Paul supporters as poll ‘hijackers’. I like Ron Paul and he would be my choice. What I found interesting in watching Glenn Beck the other night is the author of “The Creature from Jekyll Island” responded to Beck’s question about how you know the FED has bought politicians and media is that you look at the top person in an organization and they are not opposed to the FED. That struck me because Ron Paul is the #1 politician who has opposed the FED or at least wanted to audit it and he is the also the ONLY politician I’ve seen SHUT OUT from almost ALL media outlets, including Fox. They marginalize him and act like there is some conspiracy online to make his numbers look good. When Hannity suggested that Ron Paul supporters were hijacking the polls back in the ’08 election, I never thought… Read more »

Amy Wilson
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Amy Wilson

I mean, doesn’t it bother any of you conservatives that the media (including Fox) doesn’t give credit for the Tea Party to Ron Paul. You’ve got to know the Tea Party was started by Ron Paul’s supporters as a money bomb for his campaign DEC 16 2007. It just never occurred to me that it could be the FED behind this, but it makes perfect sense. Media (Fox) talk about Bachmann or Palin as the ultimate Tea Party candidate and simply ignore the one who started this whole movement. Why? Again, I think G. Edward Griffin gave the answer.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

Funny thing many of the TEA Party positions come from the Libertarian philosophy. Which as an American political party predates Paul’s entry into politics by about 5 years, the philosophy has been around much longer. In reality (as much as it galls me to say it) Our current President and the previous congress seem to have done more to make the TEA Parties what they have become, more so than Palin,Bachmann or Paul. Paul has been consistent, that I will give him, however he has ardently come out for term limits,but has been in congress,with a short break when he resigned to make his failed run at the Senate since 1976. He has come out against earmarks, yet he will submit them. To my ears he says the right things but his follow through just comes up short, like pretty much every other politician.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Say what you will about Hegel, his notion of the Dialectic seems pretty spot on, but I may just suffer from confirmation bias.

The Thesis will give rise to it’s on Antithesis, the conflict will produce the Synthesis that will move on to become the Thesis of the next cycle.

Growing central government is the thesis, and has given rise to it’s own antithesis an increasingly angry and progressively radicalized Libertarian opposition. What will the Synthesis be? We’ll have to wait and see.

I personally just want to see our antithesis win out completely…but such is my situation as the opposition.

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I think what we may be witness to (to put it plainly) are the first faltering steps in a new direction, but,like you, I am still unsure in which direction we will end up heading when the dust settles. To borrow a quote from Frank Herbert, “The Sleeper has awakened” but just who the “sleeper” is remains to be seen.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Indeed, which worries me, but there are always options no matter how that dust settles. I think it’s the responsibility of anyone who gives even 2/5 of a crap to at least try and effect the dialogue according to how they believe.

The grand designs of people like Soros and his ilk seem just too complicated to be pulled off all the way, who knows how many other conclusions would come from very similar events. But then again, I never would have dreamt the US government would do everything in it’s power to support Iranian interests in Iraq and prove Bin Laden’s claims correct…unwittingly or not.

Finger crossed, I guess.

Newyork197020
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Newyork197020

My friends, What matters is WHO is electable and at the same time stands for the principles that have made this country great. I do not know yet who that is, but I know who it isn’t: Sarah Palin, Hermain Cain, Michele Bachmann, Donald Trump, Rick Santorum, and Haley Barbour. The very bright man of ideas who also understand history and government, Newt Gingrich, is also unelectable. The Rebulicans and Tea Party need to firmly grasp the national (not party) numbers and the electoral strategy. The reasons the above named are unelectable would require too much space. That is not to say the others are electable. Sadly most of them are not too. I pray that the Republicans and/ or Tea Party come up with someone who is solidly grounded in background, who can speak honestly and knowledgeably about all the issues without falling back on empty, memorized talking points,… Read more »

Newyork197020
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Newyork197020

My friends, What matters is WHO is electable and at the same time stands for the principles that have made this country great. I do not know yet who that is, but I know who it isn’t: Sarah Palin, Hermain Cain, Michele Bachmann, Donald Trump, Rick Santorum, and Haley Barbour. The very bright man of ideas who also understand history and government, Newt Gingrich, is also unelectable. The Rebulicans and Tea Party need to firmly grasp the national (not party) numbers and the electoral strategy. The reasons the above named are unelectable would require too much space. That is not to say the others are electable. Sadly most of them are not too. I pray that the Republicans and/ or Tea Party come up with someone who is solidly grounded in background, who can speak honestly and knowledgeably about all the issues without falling back on empty, memorized talking points,… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

New York I live in NJ Chris Chistie is a Rino Please Read

http://conservativenewjersey.com/the-myth-of-christie-conservatism-part-1

Trump is Done, Read his list of Donation

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/02/donald-trumps-donations-to-democrats.html

Palin 2012

Shelly Sands
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Shelly Sands

Hmmm. Then let’s just give up now, send B.O. a letter and tell him he can stay in the office for another 4yrs. Heck, let’s just tell him he so unbeatable he might as well stay there permanently. Sheesh.

Debby
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Debby

I agree with Newyork. I don’t see any of the aforementioned as electable either. I like Bachmann, Palin, Cain, etc. but I don’t see them desirable on a national scale.

Someone has to come out of the shadows and knock our socks off. Don’t know who it is, but I pray that he/she shows up, and soon.

Bill589
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Bill589

New York – IMO, your prayer is exactly answered with Sarah Palin.

norman bates
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norman bates

The reason the majority of the socialists will do and say anything to tear Sarah Palin down, is they know she is the only one who will take the moron now in the White House out. Now we have many so called Republicans who don’t get that, they are ready to support any middle of the road candidates, don’t they remember the last Presidential election.

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Cheryl~

I am not a socialist and I don’t think Sarah Palin can do the job. The truth is so far there is not one potential candidate that will insure the Republicans to a sweeing victory over Obama-that is I am afraid the awful truth right now as things stand. Conservatives and Republicans in my opinion are very fractured.

Betty
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Betty

Sarah Palin will not run – Herman Cain 2012!!

al walker
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al walker

Sarah Palin 4 President & Herman Cain VP now thats a combo that will kick commi democrat ass.
Im sick of these Mr Nice guy gutless RINO GOP while DNC liberals call patriotic conservatives foul names & attacks patriotic mothers & women like they were vampires or scum democrats?
Democrats are the constant traitors to America, they deserve to be treated like toilet waste but GOP old timers are scared to death of offending the nasty america hating benedict arnolds of the Democratic National commitee!
Even the legal arm of the DNC the ACLU has admitted they are striving to make America a communist country! Democrats are the ultimate villians in America & they deserve to be tried in our military courts & strung up or shot like the traitors they are.

Shelly Sands
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Shelly Sands

I like Cain too but he’s my 2nd choice for VP my 1st is Allen West. Palin/West. Now that’s the ticket.

Debby
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Debby

Palin isn’t running and won’t win if she did. She’d have to spend all her time defending herself from the MSM. It isn’t fair but that’s the way it is.

West is a big possibility, just needs a strong running mate…………but who?

Nobody we’ve seen so far, unfortunately.

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