Bachmann gets a low-blow question on submission

The question that was asked was since Bachmann had said in 2006 that she was submissive to her husband over studying tax law even though she didn’t really like the idea, would she be submissive to her husband if she were president. And she handles it with class, quite frankly:



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sadpanda
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sadpanda

Im so sick of this entertainment. Thats what the media tries to do with these debates, make it into a show, not an actual debate where the american people can get a good feel for who would be a good president, but how many oooohs and awwws.

NJK
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NJK

Everything we have confronting this country and these sleazy old media types just don’t get it. This is why they are disdained in this country, and are viewed as unintelligent buffoons. What qualifies as a journalist today? I think some of these people have a single digit IQ. We need better people to moderate the debates. I’d like to see really intelligent people like Mark Levin do this. These people are a joke and they don’t take anything seriously. I can’t even watch them because of this. You’re wondering the entire time, what stupid thing they’re going to say. You actually become embarrassed by them anymore. Don’t they understand how stupid they look? I think used car salesmen rank higher than these people in respect anymore. That isn’t meant as an attack on used car salesmen. I’m sure there are very reputable ones out there.

John
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John

A better answer would be: If a man wanted his wife to be submissive, Why the hell would he want her to be LAWYER?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Right here is the best response to hit RS!
John, that’s “gooder” then “good”!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Bachmann’s response was brilliant.

Jaynie59
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Jaynie59

Byron York. Says it all right there.

patriot077
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patriot077

the question startled me but I’m glad York asked it as Bachmann would have had it thrust upon her at some point anyway. Better to face it head on and early in the process. I think Michele’s response was solid; not submissive but mutually respectful.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

People who are unselfish have the ability to “submit”. It is a mutual, two way street. The Bible admonishes husbands to treat their wives with respect too, bigtime, even above themselves, so this submission business is a pedestrian gotcha question, written by folks who haven’t a clue what that Holy book says, either in part, or as a whole. Crack it open and read about husbands and wives. It ain’t that difficult. While you’re in there, go through Proverbs and read all about fools and wisdom…guess which category you represent Yorkie?

Ruff!

Sardaukar's Pitbull
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Sardaukar's Pitbull

While you’re IN there, read the parts about pride and arrogance. You seem to have it in abundance.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

I have. Was surprised when I didn’t see anything about a pitbull or a dog wearing a helmet. Aaaahahahaha!

NJK
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NJK

Patriot077, I don’t think it should have been asked because it’s not relevant to what this country faces right now. It gives the impression that the people asking the questions are sophomoric. The country is on the verge of collapse and this media is largely responsible. They pushed a dangerous sociopath on this country, and many people fell for it. I want this kind of stuff stopped. If you can’t take the job seriously don’t do the job. The American people are sick and tired of this garbage. It shouldn’t have been asked. Sometimes I think they ask questions like this, because they don’t have the knowledge to ask the questions that need to be asked. They don’t know the answers themselves, so they won’t ask pertinent questions. Like questions about the Constitution, and our national security. It’s like they think nothing that happens in this country will affect them?… Read more »

patriot077
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patriot077

I agree that it isn’t relevant to our current troubles. But that won’t stop the state controlled media from digging up her 2006 comment and pushing it in the worst possible manner. At least the crowd and the press was friendlier last night that it might be another time. That’s the only reason I didn’t feel like trouncing York.

Philo Beddoe
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Philo Beddoe

The question came from Byron York.

Sounds like he should be wearing shorts, skipping down the street with a lollipop instead of being at a debate

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Yes. I’ll have a Stork Chocolate Reisen please.

NJK
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NJK

You’re so right. I was stunned he would ask something like this? I never viewed him as that sophomoric.

Sonny
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Sonny

The President, whether a man or a woman is the Head of State of the United Sates of America, period, and Rep. Michele Bachmann understands this, as Gov. Sarah Palin understands this, that first and foremost, is the Oath of Office, and Duty of the President of the United States of America, everything else all secondary, period, and does not, and will not, interfere with the first priority, period.!! If a woman President has to be subjected to a different standard, than a man, then there is a problem with the Oath of Office, and the Duties within, and of, the President, to carry them out.. and as there is not a difference, the question is irrelevant, and therefore sexist in it’s application. And further more, the Head of State, of the United States of America- The US President, does NOT bow, nor have to be, nor will ever be,… Read more »

malalingua
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malalingua

I learned from tonight that Ron Paul the only one that served in the military is pro-peace whilst the other candidates all wanted to go to war and kill our young men and women. Perhaps all those clowns should enlist and see how willing they are to go to war.

Gene S
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Gene S

i don’t think there objective or any American’s would be to “kill our young men and women” as a reason to go to war. you surely can’t believe that

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I love it!! they just aren’t ready for these kinds of answers.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Wow. What a sexist and insulting question. I didn’t watch the debate so I have to ask: Did he ask any of the men if they expect their wives to be submissive?

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Chris Wallace should have asked that one while standing on a soap box with his soup book. The moderators really diminished this event…especially Chris Wallace and the yappin’ Yorkie there.

They should join “forces” and tour…as Namby and Pamby.

Troy La Mana
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Troy La Mana

It was a very sexist question.

Troy La Mana
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Troy La Mana

It was a very sexist question.

Troy La Mana
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Troy La Mana

It was a very sexist question.

Jasmine Clark
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Jasmine Clark

i was so mad at that question. michele and marcus have a healthy and loving relationship, so probing into the details of how they love and act around each other is nobody else’s business!!! i don’t support bachmann for president but my reasons have to do with her RECORD, i don’t care about discussing every detail of the way she loves her husband. what a personal question and a low blow. both michele and the audience were PISSED. and rightly so.

Sardaukar's Pitbull
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Sardaukar's Pitbull

I agree. That was the point of my last comment. I would’ve dismissed the premise of the question outright and turned and attacked the questioner for asking it! For crying out loud!

CampusView Administrator
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CampusView Administrator

The point of the question is that in the role of president, Ms. Bachmann would be exercising presidential authority, and the statement cited was her own explicit acknowledgement that she has in the past acted contrary to her own judgement and instead followed the judgement of her husband because the bible tells her to. The judgement of a person acting as president is precisely the thing at issue when we are deciding whether that person is suitable to be president. Her response, that she thinks her husband is a good guy, did not address the issue raised. It left open the question of whether Marcus will be making the judgement calls or Michelle. That’s an important question, because if Marcus is making the calls, he should be on the stage and subject to scrutiny. Instead of stepping up and saying something to the effect of “if I am president, I’m… Read more »

Jasmine Clark
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Jasmine Clark

“submitting” doesn’t mean that the husband makes every decision for the wife and she is not allowed to make decisions for herself and he controls her. about going to law school, i saw the video, she was lead by her husband AND GOD as well. she felt le by God to go to law school. but i’m sure it’s not like she is her husband’s puppet.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Jasmine, she said that HER HUSBAND told her God wanted her to be a tax attorney. She said she hated taxes, but she felt like God spoke through her husband and it was right to be submissive to her husband.
I have a problem with that…a very BIG problem.
What is she doing running for president if her husband makes the decisions that God told him she needed to make? Who would be the REAL president?
The question was appropriate, and no, her answer that they have a loving relationship does not answer it for me.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Like Jasmine said, she was led by her husband and God. You really got a problem with that?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I would have no problem with her and her husband BOTH being led by God, but that’s not how she said it happens. Read her direct quote. From the way she worded it, she counts on God speaking to her husband, and he passes the directions down to her. Sounds like he’s a second Rasputin!

Yes, I most definitely do have a problem with that from someone who wants to be in the most powerful position in the world. I would not want to elect a president-by-proxy, never sure of who is making the decisions as president. We need someone STRONG at the helm, and I don’t want it to be Marcus Bachmann.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Oh the drama….good grief, read the full text of the Scripture she’s referring to, then at least make your judgement accordingly. She said and rightfully so, this is referring to respect, further the Scriptures tell us that BOTH are to respect (submit) to each other. She gets as big a say so in what happens as her husband’s opinions.
She’s not being led by the nose of her husband. If people can’t see this woman is a success in her own right, then there’s something else going on.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

This says to me that you will never vote for a woman for President, especially a godly woman who has a submissive (to each other) role in her marriage and listens to her husband’s ideas.

Do you ever think that male Presidents can be and probably have been swayed by their wives? for instance, Geo W Bush. His wife was a flaming liberal and yet we did not know it until after they left the WH. She was in favor of things that shocked me to learn. I wondered then how much she had influenced him who had seemed so conservative in the beginning.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I will be voting for a Christian woman who is not MB and who I believe has a relationship with God directly and doesn’t have to ask her husband what God wants her to do. I also think that her and her husband pray and consult together and neither one has to tell the other what God wants the other to do. Sorry, but I think the idea that God just talks to the man in the family is disgusting. If, however, MB believes that anyway, she has no sense in running for president in her own right…it should be Marcus running for president.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I am happy that you shared this and would, after all, consider voting for a godly woman for Pres. Whew!!

As far as MB, I don’t think that’s exactly how she meant/said it but no matter. Incidentally, I had my own husband suggest/offer me real estate school because he thought it might be good for me if I wanted it. He didn’t know the Lord as I do but just saying I think husbands offer this kind of thing to their wives all the time. Too bad it’s so muddled up with Michelle.

I think she is trying to be up front about her faith and it says in the good book that we will get pilloried for that.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

The transcript of that interview was very clear. She took on faith that her husband said God wanted her to be a tax attorney even though she didn’t want to.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

see….I didn’t hear her say she didn’t want to. It was not what she had seen for herself but was suggested to her by someone who loves her and is on her team. She simply accepted it as an assignment, and she excelled I might add.

I believe if she was totally put off by it there would have been no problem with her not doing it. Further, people around us who love us can often see our talents that we do not know about. He obviously saw how her mind works and had an idea that she would be good at tax law. Who knew?

I appreciate MB exposing this. A lot of people are unfamiliar with these family dynamics, as I once was myself. It can be great!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

‘Tax law? I hate taxes. Why should I go do something like that?’ ” Ms. Bachmann said in 2006 remarks at the Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park, Minn., recounting a conversation she had with her husband. “But, by faith, I was going to be faithful to what God was calling me to do through my husband, and I finished that course of study.”

Not a healthy family dynamic when she just automatically obeys because God talks to her husband, not to her.

I still have very much of a problem with that.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

OK. You win. You are playing me her very words, except that I see we are not going to agree. I have no problem with this and actually admire it. That’s what is so nice about a free country and free speech and being able to exchange ideas. Right now, I am doing something I do not like and do not want to do but I am doing it because it is required of me. Our forebears called it duty and spoke in terms of duty to our fellow man. Me, I am just working right now to earn my money so I can see if I can stay solvent. I will say that there is a certain pleasure in my work for me but I really don’t feel like it when I’d rather be blogging, drawing, painting, visiting with friends and things like that.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

That is exactly my problem with her.
Seems to me that her husband is the one who should be vetted for president, since HE apparently makes the decisions of what God wants her to do.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They make decisions together.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Would he be the co-president?

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Heck no, that was Hilary’s job. They broke the mold after that one.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Heck no, that was Hilary’s job. They broke the mold after that one.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Are you telling us that you don’t believe there’s never been a male president who has not consulted/asked/talked over the affairs of the nation with his wife?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

People, read what she SAID about becoming a tax attorney. Her husband made the decision FOR her, against her desires, and said it was from God. THAT’S my problem with her. Why can’t you see the problem in that? It goes way beyond consulting with your partner…HE made a decision for her life and she blindly obeyed, thinking that was from God…just because he said it was.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Good luck trying to convince someone that the Word does not tell the husband he gets to be the big bad boss…..submitting to one another makes for a fantastic relationship between husband and wife, but if mis-understood it makes for good excuses to not like a candidate (in this case) and to create a little unnecessary drama.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Good luck trying to convince someone that the Word does not tell the husband he gets to be the big bad boss…..submitting to one another makes for a fantastic relationship between husband and wife, but if mis-understood it makes for good excuses to not like a candidate (in this case) and to create a little unnecessary drama.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I see you are correct. The concept is beyond them.

BigM
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BigM

You just don’t understand biblical principles and the blessings that come with it Campusview. What would you rather have:

A president who has absolute respect for their spouse regardless of their status?

Or a president who once is given the Seal of the Presidency now tells their spouse; “you are now “beneath me” and all that all that we have lived for and believed in as couple in our relationship will now change?”

When one lives according to scripture, they always seem to be going in the opposite direction these days…..but they are not frankly.

This nation is spiritually, morally, and ethically bankrupt and your comment proves it.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Hear, hear!!!!

Sonny
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Sonny

The President, whether a man or a woman is the Head of State of the United Sates of America, period, and Rep. Michele Bachmann understands this, as Gov. Sarah Palin understands this, that first and foremost, is the Oath of Office, and Duty of the President of the United States of America, to America, period, and everything else all secondary, period, and does not, and will not, interfere with the first priority, period.!!

Dead Fish Go With The Flow
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Dead Fish Go With The Flow

Shame on FOX. I don’t think the audience liked that question either. Good for her for being a grown up, and killing that rediculous inquiry.

Sonny
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Sonny

Amazing, a blatant sexist question, was asked of, and meant to, denigrate, demean, and embarrass, Rep. Michele Bachmann, and not only did it not work, but he will regret even asking that question.!!

GregM
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GregM

I don’t think it was a low blow question. I wondered about it too. Double standard or not, Bachmann is going to have to learn how to answer even harder questions than this if she’s going to run against Barack Obama. She handled it well.

Sardaukar's Pitbull
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Sardaukar's Pitbull

Christ Jesus! There’s something called Socratic Dialogue! LEARN IT! Back out quiet.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’d appreciate it if you would not use that name in vain.

Sardaukar's Pitbull
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Sardaukar's Pitbull

I’d appreciate it if you spend more time worrying about the state of this nation! If this is all you got, don’t even bother responding to my posts. Pathetic. By the way, I edited the post, as to not damage your delicate psyche.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

My psyche is very strong, thank you.

I just ask as a matter of showing respect.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Now, having got past that recent difficulty, may I know what you are talking about here? I am aware of Socrates and that he had dialogues with his students and taught ways of teaching and thinking.

I am puzzled here to whom you are speaking and about what. I hope you will explain.

SFCDeano
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SFCDeano

They always leave out the verse that is right before the one Byron quoted – EPH 5:21 Submitting to ONE ANOTHER out of reverence for Christ.

Salvatore Anello
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Salvatore Anello

After thinking about it more, I think this was an awesome question and answer. The more people see that the press can be this jerky and that Bachman can still be so extremely classy, the better she looks. Real women should flock to her on stuff like this.

Rex Salvator
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Rex Salvator

I agree, I think Bachmann was being sincere when she thanked York for the question. She knows that every time she is attacked in this repugnant manner she wins respect from the people. This question was a 2fer in that it was condescending to both women and Christians.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I don’t know about a ‘low blow’, but it was a pretty stupid question, revealing that Byron York has no clue about the teaching of submission in Ephesians. Nice answer, tho, from a woman who does understand it. Eph 5:21

no_treble
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no_treble

I didn’t see all of the debate, but I heard some of the stupidest questions (including this one) that I wouldn’t expect to be hearing in a presidential debate while the country is going down the toilet. I’m suprised they played this kind of middle-school game, but I did think she handled it really well.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I am stunned Byron York would ask such a question.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Establishment lib. Upper NY and Northeast. Sectioned off from the rest of us schlubs.

American Duckie
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American Duckie

People who don’t believe in Biblical principals will never understand this. It was a low blow to be sure, but she gave a good answer on this one.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Let’s hear someone ask BO to explain what he meant by any future unplanned grandchild of his would be a “mistake”.

People are hurting, scared of what the future holds and these are the questions that are being asked? We’re in deep doo-doo.

sybilll
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sybilll

He actually said the unplanned child would be a “burden”. But, Byron was waaaaaay out of line (I am deeply disappointed). It would be like asking Obama what kind of contraception Michelle uses. That is THEIR F’ing business.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Actually this is the quote I was referring to, I should have said he should be asked what he meant by any future unplanned grandchild being a punishment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNbaig-D5pk

detectivedick
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detectivedick

After these questions tonight by FOX and Associates, I would demand the same treatment of LIAR Obama…..but that will not happen.

sDee
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sDee

Real tough guys Wallace and York. They pee like puppies around Obama.

detectivedick
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detectivedick

Could you imagine just a few years ago during the 2008 debates someone asking Hillary, “why did you let your husband go to an intern, wouldn’t you submit and service”? The double standard for attractive and well dressed women in politics is clear, gee….. what if Congresswoman Bachmann just butched out and took on that Rosie O’Donnell look, would a question of that nature have been asked?

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