Glenn Beck reads email from Sarah Palin

This is probably the closest thing we’ll get to hear from Sarah Palin this soon on this weekend’s unfortunate events. Glenn Beck reads part of an email from Sarah Palin to him in light of the massive smear job the Left is perpetrating against her. Beck reads his part first and then part of her response. Here is how she replied to him (according to Beck):

I hate violence. I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence. Thanks for all you do to send the message of truth and love and God as the answer. -Sarah

Perhaps it’s just the way Beck read her words, but they resonate with me. If anything can be said to be inciting violence then where do we draw the line? Maybe you just thought about inciting violence – will that be a crime next? It seems to me that is where the Left is headed.



This weekend made me very sad for our country that so many would willingly try and destroy a political foe by tying her to the railroad tracks of terror and violence. If anything it tells me that there are way too many useful idiots in America and that they have the MSM on their side.

This nation, more now than perhaps ever, needs to intimately know the tranformative power of God. That’s the only thing that can really save us.

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First of all your religions MORMON doctrine begs the question what God ? IS Jesus the son of God and is Jesus GOD in the flesh ” or the God man …Glenn you say you are a believer …Was Jesus created or IS HE GOD the trinity ? Also Sarah Palin????? Are you kidding me ?????? Please Please Please Get realer then real !!!!!
Sadly so many are following this pied piper…. Its all about me… . its all about me …its all about me ….Wake up America, wake up all you stupid old men that cant think above your zippers.Parrots ..Palin followers that dont have a clue.
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Fox News should fire Rush Limbaugh & Glenn Beck for now practicing the true values of respected conservatism, which are being open minded, constructive, intelligent, responsible, sincere, & truthful.
Limbaugh’s complaints about Obama’s attempts to discard the warts of the health care system are utterly lacking in constructive and intelligent ways that are needed. Considering how prone so many millions of Americans are in having Rush Limbaugh’s kind of disease ( obese & bloated ), I do not trust Limbaugh’s comments.
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Sarah Palin is not a true respected conservative who practices the values of being openminded, constructive, intelligent, responsible, sincerety, & truthfulness to be truly one of them. Her efforts in being an activist indicates scattered brains. Being a distant cousin of hers via PILGRIM Richard Warren, anyone who feels she should run for President in 2012 I would describe as a wacko-ist. Staats52runner

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The first thing I deed when I hear the shooting in Arizona was pray to God for the safty of the victoms. The far left first thing of their future.

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They asked Sarah Palin if she could correctly use the two words Blood Libel in a sentence and she replied, When I shoot moose, blood libel pour out. Our Sary is sure smart. My Great Uncle used to tell me never to aim my cross hairs at something I did not want to kill. Palin painted crosshairs on Gifford, what did she think would happen.

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They asked Sarah Palin if she could use the words Blood Libel constructively in a sentence and she replied, I shoot a moose, blood libel pour out. Our Sary is sure smart. My Uncle used to say never aim your cross hairs at something, you don’t want to shoot. Sarah drew her cross hairs on Gifford. What did she expect would happen?

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this is a good reading by beck

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Dan, with all due respect and even though I have lost count of the low-class name-calling from you, it seems to me that you have made the mistake of infinite extrapolation sir. You have, at best, described sideways movement, micro-evolution, or what is known as variation with a species. You can raise generations of dogs or cows and breed some different traits into them, but that dog will never become anything other than a differentiated dog. What you and others have utterly failed to do is illustrate how the first living single celled organism evolved from non-living matter. If you cannot do that, you most definitely cannot show how the eye of a mollusk is much more complex than a human eye or more importantly how the human brain evolved from that single cell or the mollusk. Your infinite extrapolations based on variation within a species are simply bridges too… Read more »

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More holier than thou hypocrisy, I might have guessed…oh, wait, I did, up above in another reply to you. Anyone can scroll on up and see your respectful nice guy act is a sham. You opened all of this with patronizing condemnation of 2 people for nothing more than not buying your bronze age fairy tale and seasoned the **** sandwich with a double dose of smug “I’ll pray for you,” garbage. You kicked all this off and now try posting this way at the bottom where you thought I might not see, lucky me that Las has another reply forthcoming. Shameful. The Second Law of Thermodynamics does not falsify Evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/probability.html Read this to understand why your assertions regarding Physics would, if true, make your refrigerator either impossible or a miracle from god. To qualify as “life,” “living,” an organism, there are several conditions necessary, one of which is… Read more »

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I posted here so you would be sure to see Oh captain my private. You’re an empty suit. Albeit, a pompous empty suit. You and your theories are bankrupted and good for what they are…nuthin’.

I was going to ask you to list some of the virtues of your atheistic missionary ways but since you quit, like they all do, I’ll save it for someone who doesn’t take a day and a half to say nuthin’.

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correction: bankrupt or bancrupt w/o the -ed. Must’ve been thinkin’ about a horse or horses ass or something.

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You continue to worship yourself sir…or nuthin’. I have too many reasons to believe otherwise.

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“Dawkins himself…” blah, blah, blah (DAN)

Was I supposed to bow at the name of an irrefutable person here? Dawkins? Dawkins? He’s as religious about atheism as you claim to be unreligious about everything. I think you are overhyped Dan…and overconfident in something you don’t realize is, wait for it…..wait for it….nuthin’.

Does it usually take you this much effort to accomplish nuthin’?

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Scientists and professors who don’t tow the evolutionary line are black-listed, outright fired, lose funding, or otherwise are killed by the established elites. The politification of science.

There are scores of advanced degree scientists and Profs in many, many fields who disagree with both you and the artificial elites, you know, the ones, quashing dissent whom you revere.

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It’s a religion in itself and you, a proud, assistant, substitute, deacon in it.

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“…your bronze age fairy tale and seasoned the **** sandwich with a double dose of smug “I’ll pray for you,” garbage.” (DAN)

A double-dose huh? I didn’t even offer a single dose of “I’ll pray for you” sir. I haven’t even alluded to prayer a single time on this entire page or this entire site for that matter. I guess that makes you a shameless misrepresenter. Some people simply call that a liar.

I would surmise that CM’s glowing praise of you yesterday is something he might wish he had avoided. You made him look like a bad judge of character didn’t you? You took his glowing words of praise and slapped him right in the face with them.

I for one am not baffled by your fibs, your foibles or your fantasmagorical, flatulence.

RS

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correction: I think I did say, I’ll pray to God and you can pray to your navel…something to that effect.

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Here is what happens. The elitist (evolution is my religion freedom quasher) scientists in charge, follow this line of reasoning. “First, eliminate the impossible, then what remains, however improbable must be the truth” is…” They eliminate creation and intelligent design right off the bat without due cause, and it’s that bat, that sucks’em dry.

They also say things like “There are no absolutes”, when that statement itself is an absolute. All they have is wordplay and a relatively small number of people are swayed by their efforts to proselytize.

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Las response A: There are many different takes on Natural Law, given that it is a concept discovered through reason as Aquinas described. One notion of Natural Law does not necessarily men all notions of Natural law. Libertarian Natural Law is no more and no less than Zero-Aggression Principle and Neo-Lockean property. One follows from the other, so it’s simply Neo-Lockean property. Anything added to that is non-requisite and additional preference. Atheists can drum that claim very easily when social Conservatives proudly and loudly sing it from the rooftops that part of the government’s responsibility is to encourage morality. This is a common sight on just about any conservative blog. The most common form of this is the long wall o’ text posts of scripture quotations meant to apply to the latest public policy decision of the state and about how it has to get right with god or bad… Read more »

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Glen, It is my firm belief that I seriously doubt we have anything to worry about from the left coming at us full gallop on a pale white steed with a AK in one hand and a magic wand in the other hand, a silver dollar rubber dildo butt plug, with tie died hair, nipple and ear rings and LGBA tattooed on his ass (what does that last A stand for anyway anal). I think we are safe.

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Why is it when someone does something so terrible and tragic we right away have to find someone to blame. Did anyone ever think that maybe this is a sick young man who needed help a long time ago. Why do we have to right away blame Sarah Palin for everything. I don’t ever see her blamed for the good things that happen but boy everyone is quick to blame her for the tragic things that happen. Lets face facts this young man is a young man who needed some type of help and we ignore that fact. What perfectly sane and good person would do something like this

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The media has painted a target on Palin’s forehead, her temple, her family and her reputation…and for 3 years running…non-stop. There are so many targets on her, I can’t even see her any more. Mostly though, the target is daily painted…on her back.

Pitiful and putrid. RALPH!

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OUTSTANDING POST (to me)!!

CM Sackett

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Thumbs up and thanks sir. I found this site at weasel zippers…FYI.

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Who did, and is still doing much much more to target Palin than Palin did to target anybody? The media. Since day one it has been non-stop Palin bashing. Since the very day that Mcain chose her as a VP candidate. The left targets her, early, often and late. Did anyone kill her yet? No, too bad left, that is what you’re going for right? You’ll take her death in any number of ways will you not? First you killed her election chances with lies, then you proceeded to kill her family by bearing false witness. You sought to kill any part of her you could. You looked under every rock. When you ran out of rocks you started manufacturing more rocks to look under. Who has been the recipient of as much seething rage, false witness, and slander as Palin? Is the left waiting for Palin to get killed?… Read more »

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You stuffed too much into that last post… control yourself… sheesh. Listen, the first video with Michael Shermer. I would say the weakest part of his argument was when he called himself an evolutionary libertarian with the claim that he gets to natural law, bypassing a diety, using evolved natural law, an evolved nature. I would argue that the Bible contradicts this quite easily and takes 3500 years to do so. Biblically man’s nature is quite static. Shermer’s first recourse is to relate man to primates as a group. This is weak, it’s definitely darwinian, shades of Hegel. It’s the explanation in lieu of diety. I’m unsure if it is just dishonesty or ignorance, but too many atheists are drumming the claim that religionists are into big government to enforce social mores. I believe natural law includes the moral and that self-governance (we’ve discussed this before) is contained within. As… Read more »

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Sorry Rshill7… that post was for someone else

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Stupid conservatives and your fairy tale god

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Speaking as a person who is also a non-believer and is a regular on this site, you betray yourself to be just as shallow-thinking, reactionary, and cherry-picking with your facts as you would label conservatives. The term “religious right,” is not in any way proof that fundamentalism or religious activism has a home only in the U.S. “right-wing. It is a common discussion amongst the “left,” and “Democrats,” whether or not to disavow Atheists, the non-religious, and religious minorities and to make a play for the Christian voters. Let’s not forget that the champion of the Fundamentalist movement in the 1920s, the one that played a major role up to and in the Scopes trial, was William Jennings Bryan. Bryan was a Secretary of State for President Wilson, ran for president three times and an unabashed member of the “left.” There is also a large portion of the Democratic party… Read more »

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“The Fool has said in his heart there is no God.”

(God)

I’ll say a prayer to God for both of you atheists, and you can pray to your navel. Ask it for some belly lint mkay?

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If I had a penny for every time I’ve had that contemptible little piece of……quoted at me I could put Bill scriptureGates’ wealth to shame.

Here’s one for you,
“Hands that work are better than lips that pray.”
(Robert Green Ingersoll)

You go pray to your god while looking down your nose at those who you are commanded to love by your messiah. I’ll be busy actually taking productive steps to better my own life.

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Ok comrade. But you are wrong.

Everything from nothing? Random processes? Hilarious.

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Comrade? Nice snarky way to try and portray me as a Marxist/Leninist/Trotskyist/Stalinist, but you couldn’t be more wrong. I’m wrong, am I? Have faith healers started working in hospitals, training doctors, and restoring amputee limbs? Sorry, chief, but reliance on empirical evidence for deities was abandoned by respectable thinkers long ago, and rational “proofs,” were done away with by Kant, who was himself a believer. Whether you admit it or not, your belief is an example of Fideism, and you have 0 room to claim either of us has final knowledge on the matter. Just because you believe something does not make it through, nor does that make it knowledge. Where did I say “everything from nothing?” Where did I say “random processes?” You are straw-manning science and trying to put words in my mouth, but my arguments on this issue are well documented on this website and in my… Read more »

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I don’t apologize for apologetics. I came to it the hard way. You are part of the politification of science. Evolution and global-warming.

Can a cell make protein without a ribosome? No? How do you explain that the ribosome is made of protein? Which came first the cell or the ribosome? What you have in a cell is irreducibly complex.

Furthermore, I’ll bet you believe that a single strand of DNA encodes more information than the Library of Congress. I do too. You believe there are such things as invisible microbes that can wipe out millions unseen. I do too. You believe that the unimaginable complexity and staggering precision of the entire universe and all of it’s contents came from nothing, AND, that all of that/this occurred as a random process. I do not.

Touche’. Who’s the fruitcake? Next Christmas just give yourself away.

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–reflecting to self– “Ah, the beauty-n-terror of being HUMAN… knowing so much, while even yet, knowing so little.” Rshill, I just posted a whole-hearted “OUTSTANDING POST!!” on one of your honest declarations (about Palin having a target plastered on everything she has and is…). And to me, it was just that, OUTSTANDING! Your honesty (as I’ve seen it, anyway) is one of the treasures of your postings. However, I must, and WILL SAY… you are DEAD-WRONG about Daniel (his core, heart… and potential for great things WITHIN THE KINGDOM you and I call ‘Home’). Disagree with his view of God? DAMN STRAIGHT! Disagree with some of his (still developing) ‘conclusions’ about governments, governance, and mankind in general? HAVE MANY TIMES (and shall again, I’m sure). …BUT, Daniel is one of the MOST HONEST, REASON-SEEKING, and POTENTIALLY POWERFUL “sons of God” this old battle-scarred warrior of the King has ever come… Read more »

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Yes, I love C.S. Lewis, who came to Christ kicking and screaming after coming to the realization. He could no longer argue against the truth. I’ve read everything I could get my hands on by him…even the screwtape letters. I think he’s brilliant. Mere Christianity is superbly deep but nonetheless, and even more so because of it, still superb.

Many people think that Christianity is akin to intellectual suicide. It is most definitely not. I have seen zero evidence for evolution and mountains of evidence against it.

Many people spend more time planning for a picnic than in contmplating the most pround question there is: Is this it, or is this not it? regardless of which it is, there is one decision that works either way.

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I’m truly touched, and sincerely appreciate that, Mr. Sackett.

Your writing is on my “To-Read list,” by the way.

Peace.

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“…BUT, Daniel is one of the MOST HONEST, REASON-SEEKING, and POTENTIALLY POWERFUL “sons of God” this old battle-scarred warrior of the King has ever come across, so help me, God.” (CM)

“I will stand WITH HIM as a witness to his unflinching honesty…” (CM)

Yeah right. With respect sir. I cannot disagree any stronger than I now do.

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“You believe that the unimaginable complexity and staggering precision of the entire universe and all of its contents came from nothing, AND, that all of that /this occurred as a random process.” Could you possibly me more arrogant? Again, you’re making assumptions and telling ME what I believe. It’s a small wonder there is a common fear of your ilk wanting to legislate religion so you can tell us what we believe through law. I’ll clear it up right now for you. I don’t accept the Anthropogenic part of AGW. Does the climate change? Sure. Is it humanities fault? I sincerely doubt it. Can humanity do anything about it? I sincerely doubt it. Should we destroy every economy on the planet in vain attempts? Hell no. Do I claim to know what was before the Big Bang? No, given how we understand time, the notion of “before” is meaningless anyway.… Read more »

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“Schmuck”. I like it. I think that evolved from the dreaded duck if darwin is not mistaken.

“survival of the fittest” Which ones survive? “The fittest”. Which ones are the fittest? “Those that survive”. oooh, what a pretty circle. Weeeeeee!

I wonder if being killed by a flash-flood, an earthquake, a tsunami, a tornado, a hurricane, a mudslide, a bolt of lightening, an avalanche, or a volcano is adaptive or maladaptive smile

Naaa, I usually stick to my hometown newspaper surrounded by the great lakes.

And CM, I have no history with the atheist guy. If I was needlessly harsh, gauche, or overly disrespectful, I apologize. The lies of evolution raise many flags and much of my ire sir. Apreciative of the kudos you have bestowed. SALUTE!

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“A triangle has three sides.” What has three sides? “A triangle.” What does a triangle have? “three sides.” Oh, what a pretty circle. Taking a simplified and overly used concept and restating it does not constitute circular logic any more than my restating the analytic, “a triangle has three sides.” Regarding natural disasters: It’s crap luck and/or poor adaptation. Surviving those on the other hand may be indicative of an advantageous adaptation OR just good luck. ex. Species A goes extinct in an environment where food is scarce year round and a natural disaster (disease or what you listed) wiped out the remaining food supply = crap luck & extinction event. ex. Species B & C survive the event by different prey or being omnivorous. Ice Age hits. Species B dies from cold or it’s eggs die; extinction. Species C is the feathered daughter species of B, feathers are a… Read more »

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Wow, where did you get such an enviable collection of 1970’s National Geographic? I hear evolutionists claim all kinds of evidence and all kinds of ridicule for the creationists. All I see is the ridicule. Parrots mimicking older parrots. They assert all kinds of things and repeat the lie loud and often. It doesn’t help show anything. You have shown nothing, least of all an original thought regarding this topic at least. Evolution texts are vacuous. Michael Denton’s book “Evolution, A Theory in Crisis” is pretty good. It is not vacuous and not the 70’s geographic you appear to cite. Singularly unimpressive, but quite wordy. Nothingness and ridicule. That’s what evolutionary texts contain. They start with a conclusion that creation is impossible and work backwards to try and prove how it happened. At least intelligent design texts utilize the scientific method based on that which can actually be observed. What… Read more »

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Judging from how you opened this conversation, your ability to grasp simplified concepts, how quickly you dragged the conversation into insults, your demonstrable lack of trying to understand any position other than your own, and all around ignorance this does not qualify in any meaningful sense as discourse. This was an over-patient person talking to a wall.

Go ahead and claim a century-long global scientist conspiracy! That one never gets old.

Peace.

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Right. You present nothin, I notice the nothing and so you must resort to the next tactic. Youa djust you ass-cot, refill your ivory pipe and pronounce incapapble of grasping nothing as if it were something. You are just like every evolutionist I’ve ever read or encountered. You ARE one of the best at filling a box completely full of nothing. But you have many mentors to choose from in that arena of nothing. Peace.

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“…All of the best god arguments through Reason were done away with by Hume and Kant after Non-Physicalism became the religious norm.

Also, irreducible complexity has been obliterated both in court and in the academic arena every single time creationists have tried to present examples.”

Nice opinion piece Dan. If these “professors”, like yourself, have “done away” with anything, it is this: Common Sense and the Scientific Method.

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I’m not a professor lol, I’m a layman with a curiosity for the scientific responses to metaphysical questions. Common Sense is a fallacy, though, it’s an appeal to common belief. What is common sense to you is clearly not common sense to me. When a speaker appeals to common sense, he is banking on the audience/judges sharing his beliefs or that those groups will ASSUME he means the same things they would. If people can do away with it, it would help the political dialogues greatly because it would be 1 more buzz [phrase] eliminated. Politicians would have to articulate specifically what they mean, rather than get off with “common sense solutions.” The Scientific Method is alive and well, and very often decried by the likes of Conservapedia by it’s other name, Methodological Naturalism. Naturalism is disallowed in religious thinking because gods and miracles necessarily SUPERnatural. David Hume was a… Read more »

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To equate the description of a triangle with the circular reasoning of evolutionary theory is pedestrian and silly. Get a car.

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It wasn’t equating a triangle with the scientific theory you belligerent dunce. I was comparing your inane assessment of the childishly simplified and overused synopsis of Evolution to the inanity of arranging an analytic statement in a circular fashion.

If you are too slow to understand even that, I’m going to stop bothering with you. I won’t cast pearls before swine, to reference your holy book (see: magic tome).

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belligerant dunce. good evo tactic. nothing. empty suit, parroted vacuousness.

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belligerant dunce. good evo tactic. nothing. empty suit, parroted vacuousness.

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belligerant dunce. good evo tactic. nothing. empty suit, parroted vacuousness.

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Why whatshisname has so much confidence in you is a mystery. You have little class. I don’t see anything praiseworthy in your recent posts sir. Pontidicating blowhard of nuthin’.

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pontificating (correction) typos

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To equate the description of a triangle with the circular reasoning of evolutionary theory is pedestrian and silly. Get a car.

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Punctuated Equilibrium. “We cannot see evolution with our eyes because it happens too slowly. We cannot see it in the fossil record because it happens too fast”. That’s kinda’ scientific huh? It’s the comedic side of “science”

Even Crick, of Watson and Crick said that “life could not and did not evolve on this earth”.

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“Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution” -Theodosius Dobzhansky, father of modern Genetics

I can whip out a bin of quotes too, you silly little man.

People like you habitually overplay, mischaracterize, and generally poorly grasp/present concepts in science and their acceptance.

Punctuated Equilibrium has been criticized by scientists and Evolution accepting laymen alike for ages and severely hurt Gould’s credibility.

If you want to keep overplaying it though, just like Piltdown Man and Nebraska Man, you go right ahead. Those who know better, do.

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So what in your opinion is the driving force of evolution? If it isn’t punctuated equilib…is it mutations, or is it the old darwinian way? Which theory is is your hat-hook today sir?

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Evolution as a Theory, incorporates data from Paleontology, Archeology, Genetics, Taxonomy, Microbiology, etc etc. many different disciplines. It’s not just, “Aha! This one piece is it,” But to put it very simply… To put it very simply, Reproduction with genetic variation + environmental attrition = Evolution. Genetic variation leading to speciation is at the heart of “the old darwinian way,” and Punctuated Equilibrium. PE was just an attempted explanation of why the data points of the fossil records are distributed as they are. Parts of PE were very accurate and enlightening and are expressed elsewhere, others are disregarded as not holding up with the testimony of genetic evidence and observations. Such an example of PE getting it right would be how genetic changes/adaptations spread throughout a population MUCH quicker in populations isolated or on the fringes. As far as disciplines and data go, looking at just the fossil records, to… Read more »

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“Reproduction with genetic variation + environmental attrition = Evolution.” (DAN) Sthay, that’sth math isthn’t it? It’s pretty. Pretty unproven that is. You’d be a great advertising guy for stuff that doesn’t work very well. You know, there’s a sucker born every minute? “PE was just an attempted explanation of why the data points of the fossil records are distributed as they are.” (DAN) Oh, the DATA points of the fossil record…you mean as in: Data point 1. Nuthin’ Data point 2. Nuthin’ Data point 3. Nuthin’ etc. forever ad nauseum? Got it. Great stuff. “If the data is there, you do all of that + sequencing” Right…if the data is there. It ain’t though. “how many genes we have in common with which animals, and the best of them all, Endogenous Retrovirus DNA in a genome shared in both DNA fragment AND location.” (DAN) Common design features by a common… Read more »

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You’ve displayed 0 respect throughout this entire exchange, disregard out of hand anything put to you, completely ignore other points, and fall back on derision.

I’m waiting for the completely predictable response by you to my other posts which respond with likewise derisive language with some kind of word-shaped bile amounting to nothing more then, “AHA! SEE!?”

If you’re still stuck in the nonsense apologetics and dated propaganda of “macro vs micro,” then congratulations, you’re beyond help.

Good day, try not to choke to death on your own tongue.

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Yes, you’re a prince. The complimentor/moderator earlier has also lost my repect because of your perfromance. You have neither proven nor shown anything at all, notr have you gained my respect other than that of a BS-er extraordinaire.

You are wearing no clothes and I am the only one to notice it today. That get’s your goat doesn’t it? Does it also get your chaff? Do you often “win” arguments like you claim others do that you quote? I don’t think they’ve won anything. They spout pure nothingness and so do you. I am unimpressed. You might impress some who don’t know what you’re NOT talking about and they might say, hmmm, and stroke their beards and nod. That’s what you did when you read your mentor’s BS isn’t it? Polly want a cracker? Good day Sir.

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You’ve displayed 0 respect throughout this entire exchange, disregard out of hand anything put to you, completely ignore other points, and fall back on derision.

I’m waiting for the completely predictable response by you to my other posts which respond with likewise derisive language with some kind of word-shaped bile amounting to nothing more then, “AHA! SEE!?”

If you’re still stuck in the nonsense apologetics and dated propaganda of “macro vs micro,” then congratulations, you’re beyond help.

Good day, try not to choke to death on your own tongue.

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And if transitional species were the order of the day, where are they? Even darwin himself said that if the evidence were not in the fossil record then his theory would be in serious question…to put it mildly. Why do you think they came up with punctuated equilibrium? That’s why, because the fossil record says No, loudly and firmly. There would be many more transitional fossils than not, yet, where are they? Fossils are always of fully formed, fully functional animals. Never have there been a half-wing half fishscale fin has there? Also, when the atmosphere was supposedly anaerobic, how did bacteria or single celled organisms survive that? With out atmosphere they would be destroyed in the sun’s ultra-violet rays in about 20 seconds. I observed this in the lab and timed it. I think 27 seconds was the record. They must have been hiding under a rock for a… Read more »

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Anonymous

Ok, no offense, but this Darwin line got old the 80th time I heard it. Darwin personally made the prediction of finding a transitional form between dinosaurs and birds. It was found in his lifetime, called Archeopteryx Lithographica. Among too many other factors to list, the unfused wing-fingers was a key feature predicted by Darwin. Again, PE wasn’t excusing the fossil record, it was an attempt to explain the chronological concentration of morphologies. I WOULD get into why EVERY living animal is technically a “transitional form,” but every time I’ve done that in the past it turned into a quagmire that made me want to shoot myself to escape. And yes, one part of the several best supported theories of Abiogenesis is being deep deep under water. Often times in proximity with volcanic underwater vents. There are still numerous theories for Abiogenesis, though, so there is no clear undeniable consensus… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

“It was found in his lifetime, called Archeopteryx Lithographica. Among too many other factors to list, the unfused wing-fingers was a key feature predicted by Darwin.” I can’t believe you actually wrote this sir. Are you kidding? Really? This is a fully formed, fully functiuonal bird. What the hell is your problem? Your posts about evolution are paragraghs of nuthin’. You, like the evo books pontificate for a few hundred pages, and sound as intelligent as you can, but it does NOT hide the fact that your box of evolution (macro that is) is completely empty. OMG have you been brainwashed with a whole lot of nuthin’. Reread some of your stuff here on this subject. Evolution proponents try to outintelligent the vocabulary, the this the that…they ramble…they ridicule…but what they continue to present, is a big box of nothing whatsoever. And you not only fall for it, you envision… Read more »

Rshill7
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Rshill7

Here it is the 81st time. I would guess that you’ve never been able to deal with it at any time. I think you need a bigger clip. One that holds more BS. MAybe after you heard it 82 times you’ll realize you are being a missionary for lies and nuthin’.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

We have the empty tomb of Christ. We have the transformed lives of the Apostles from chickens to fearless (people don’t willingly die for a lie they know is a lie) and we have hundreds of eyewitness accounts of the miracles and the resurrection of Jesus. How many eyewitnesses can your shoe fairy boast?

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CM Sackett

Mornin’ Daniel.

And truly (as you know, my friend) God’s Best to you, this day,
Sackett, the resident crusty old soldier of the Cross… who’ll call a man an S.O.B. if he is one… but is proud to be surrendered to the King.

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I’ll need that today, if he exists, I begin one of my math courses today. razz

The reaction is interesting to say the least, I call out and criticize a stereotypical leftist atheist and in turn am called a navel-gazer by some smug example of holier than thou named Rshill7

Good morning back to you, and bravo with all the troll bans.

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las

“It is a common discussion amongst the “left,” and “Democrats,” whether or not to disavow Atheists, the non-religious, and religious minorities and to make a play for the Christian voters. I’d agree that they make a play for Christian voters. The trouble is that they can only get the Liberal and Leftist Christians… you know the Dorothy Day lovers like Jim Wallace, who I remember from years ago when “social justice” was the meme du jour. That’s the “christian” crowd they’re after… compliant and statist. They have next to zero traction among conservative evangelicals. Catholics and Jews are voting Democrats in overwhelming numbers like 80% if I remember correctly. Catholics have yet to wake up, if ever, while Jews are still struggling with self-hatred, obsessing about the last holocaust while denying the present holocaust at their doorstep in the form of Islamic Jihad and stealth Jihad being welcomed in with… Read more »

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Lol, they aren’t complete relativists. Remember, they threat their own personal beliefs as the objective absolutes. Relativism only seems to come up when other people’s beliefs are the status quo. Action isn’t often taken to drive away the atheists and non-religious for many reasons. Sometimes it’s because they feel they would lose more than they would gain in such a ploy. My evidence is largely word-of-mouth, because such action is rarely taken. If the word-of-mouth from [very] “leftist” atheists who attend local Democrat party meetings can be trusted, though, it comes up fairly regularly. I can only imagine because they remember the electoral maps from the days when the evangelical south went happily to Democrats, like Carter. I wouldn’t consider the non-devout or the religious who aren’t regular church goers to be “non-religious,” as some might. As for % of ideologies made of atheists, the “left” might be a higher… Read more »

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Heh heh heh… your first line made me laugh. You took the words from my mouth. Carter, peanut farmer evangelical, and Christians flocked en-mass and abandoned their conservatism. Ah… simpler times I guess, but I could never figure it out. “I wouldn’t consider the non-devout or the religious who aren’t regular church goers to be “non-religious,” as some might.” You’re absolutely correct on that. I was not implying that. Ah Language, an imperfect tool that. On stats… the true left is really low in percentages. Twice as many Americans self identify as conservative than liberal. 20% liberal, 40% conservative. There’s the mushy 40% remainder… and if I could be so presumptuous as to assume that if push were to come to shove, that of the remaining 40%, most would identify as conservative. I don’t say this out of prejudice or bias… I say this out of an awareness that people… Read more »

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I can’t speak for all atheists, or even a portion since it’s not an affirmative position so there’s nothing to rally around politically, but personally I can empathize with atheists fleeing to the Dems, though I’m not one myself. If they buy into the notion of the two-party system, it’s very clear which “side,” views non-believers as destructive, evil, all around dangerous, and/or wholly immoral it’s the “right.” There are also more than a few politicians or groups with influence infatuated with language that rings of legislating religion. The other party, though not necessarily embracing the godless (publicly), does not repudiate us with every chance it gets. Libertarians don’t take a political position on it, but aren’t viewed by many as a group with any chance. So freedom-minded godless tend to gravitate generally away from the GOP and Conservatism to Unaffiliated or Libertarianism. Statist Atheists (Statheists) flee to the Democrats… Read more »

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Stathiests! ha! love it. Just what we need … more nomenclature. While I agree that atheism is not really an affirmative position, it is, however, a cultural norm with growing political clout. Look at various court challenges, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Orwelian sounding Military Religious Freedom Foundation, ACLU challenges etc. “views non-believers as destructive, evil, all around dangerous, and/or wholly immoral it’s the “right.” There is some, and I will admit that it is used for political ends, but your are engaging a in a bit of hyperbole there doncha think? Ravi Zacharias, a Christian philosopher says something that really puts this in perspective. He says that liberalism (and he means post-modern) is the most intolerant philosophy today. In comparison to the so called religious “haters” out there on the right, they are no match for the intolerance, bigotry and hatred of liberals. Does it make it right?… Read more »

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P.S. I always have uneasy feelings about HotAir. Never have that when reading MichelleMalkin, but with HotAir I know I am supposed to be on a conservative blog, but get that sinking feeling that it is something else also, mostly from Allahpundit, not so much from Morrissey. At least when I visit lefty sites, I can take a gravol before hand and it gets me through… but Hot Air leaves me uneasy. Their guest contributors are much more reliable with their conservatism.

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Well, all of that about the parties and which is more intolerant is why I’m a Libertarian in philosophy. Be as intolerant as you want so long as you don’t use a gun or nightclub to enforce it. I can’t remember the author, but I remember a book, called something like “The Intolerance of Tolerance.” I think it was written by a philosophy professor of Soros’. It was about the contradiction of people who adopt “Tolerance,” as their only ideology. I live on the border of the Bible-belt, so my view is very probably tainted by personal experience, turning it to hyperbole to one degree or another. As for the growing cultural movement, that’s very true, and so long as the balkanized view of the population is the norm for pandering in politics, it will remain true. Non-believers (spiritual, non-denominational, atheists, etc etc) are approaching 20% of the population, more… Read more »

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las

Didn’t know that HA was sold! Your father was actually onto something there except that 1st Amendment rights revoking of course. What happened to you? Listen, I won’t go too far into this, but this Libertarian chique which is becoming more in fashion imho is simply the refuge of many non-believing conservatives. I don’t say this about you, but it is an observation. Now… as far the societal ills stuff, when conservatives bring it up, the howls and screeching from the non-believers and, yes, the libertarians too can shut down the debate pretty quickly. The cherished prejudices of militant secularists and non-believers are a force to contend with when exposed. It’s perfectly legit for a Christian to inform his culture that bad behaviours and certain social norms have consequences and that there is a better way. And yes, your father was correct about self governance, a point I have stressed… Read more »

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Didn’t know that HA was sold! Your father was actually onto something there except that 1st Amendment rights revoking of course. What happened to you? Listen, I won’t go too far into this, but this Libertarian chique which is becoming more in fashion imho is simply the refuge of many non-believing conservatives. I don’t say this about you, but it is an observation. Now… as far the societal ills stuff, when conservatives bring it up, the howls and screeching from the non-believers and, yes, the libertarians too can shut down the debate pretty quickly. The cherished prejudices of militant secularists and non-believers are a force to contend with when exposed. It’s perfectly legit for a Christian to inform his culture that bad behaviours and certain social norms have consequences and that there is a better way. And yes, your father was correct about self governance, a point I have stressed… Read more »

las
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las

P.s. brain ((( dead)))) can’t go on, must get exercise!!!!

las
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las

double p.s… that Chris Matthews analogy was a stretch, now i know I’m really losing it.

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Yeah, the “fashionability” of the term “Libertarian,” is more than a little frustrating (thanks Beck). But Napolitano and Tucker Carlson are both ardent believers and I doubt anyone would call their Libertprosthelatizingarianism under suspicion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6TJilN0X40 As for Atheists flocking to it, that may be a clique thing, or it may just simply be a better fit. I was more a Libertarian than I was a Conservative back when I was still calling myself a Deist. Libertarianism logically, to me, would be in conflict with Religions that have the call to convert the world, so maybe the more liberal Christians would fit, but the “one nation under GOD, dammit,” crowd definitely would be “round hole; square peg,” territory. I can’t speak for others, but as for me, I take something like Penn’s (of Penn & Teller) position regarding evangelizing/prosthelytizing. . . Someone can SAY it all they want, try to persuade,… Read more »

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You stuffed too much into that last post… control yourself… sheesh. Listen, the first video with Michael Shermer. I would say the weakest part of his argument was when he called himself an evolutionary libertarian with the claim that he gets to natural law, bypassing a diety, using evolved natural law, an evolved nature. I would argue that the Bible contradicts this quite easily and takes 3500 years to do so. Biblically man’s nature is quite static. Shermer’s first recourse is to relate man to primates as a group. This is weak, it’s definitely darwinian, shades of Hegel. It’s the explanation in lieu of diety. I’m unsure if it is just dishonesty or ignorance, but too many atheists are drumming the claim that religionists are into big government to enforce social mores. I believe natural law includes the moral and that self-governance (we’ve discussed this before) is contained within. As… Read more »

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Started new string below, scroll down for response to your Part A.

las
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las

Heh heh heh… your first line made me laugh. You took the words from my mouth. Carter, peanut farmer evangelical, and Christians flocked en-mass and abandoned their conservatism. Ah… simpler times I guess, but I could never figure it out. “I wouldn’t consider the non-devout or the religious who aren’t regular church goers to be “non-religious,” as some might.” You’re absolutely correct on that. I was not implying that. Ah Language, an imperfect tool that. On stats… the true left is really low in percentages. Twice as many Americans self identify as conservative than liberal. 20% liberal, 40% conservative. There’s the mushy 40% remainder… and if I could be so presumptuous as to assume that if push were to come to shove, that of the remaining 40%, most would identify as conservative. I don’t say this out of prejudice or bias… I say this out of an awareness that people… Read more »

K2rampKathy
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K2rampKathy

Palin for president 2012! The more they go after her, the more we’ll stand up for her.

Sarah Lover
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Sarah Lover

He must be getting some on the side. It will bring the re-pubic down..

Ryan G
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Ryan G

In this message I leave my political views aside and just speak my heart, this is a situation where I care not who I offend because what I say if you are offended you could be part of the problem. Murder has become a problem not just in the past couple of years but since the earliest days of man. Never should a murder take place where anyone of us should ever become numb to the fact that we all share one world at one time together. When it comes down to it, there are people, and I am guilty of wishing they were never born and the things they say make me sick, but God has seen these people and he loves them, so am I commissioned to do by my Lord and savior Jesus Christ. “Love your God with all your heart soul body and mind, and love… Read more »

MeatyBeatyBigBouncy
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MeatyBeatyBigBouncy

keep usin’ that illusion, beck! The echo chamber your head is in, is clearly your own
#ss.

Ryan G
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Ryan G

In this message I leave my political views aside and just speak my heart, this is a situation where I care not who I offend because what I say if you are offended you could be part of the problem. Murder has become a problem not just in the past couple of years but since the earliest days of man. Never should a murder take place where anyone of us should ever become numb to the fact that we all share one world at one time together. When it comes down to it, there are people, and I am guilty of wishing they were never born and the things they say make me sick, but God has seen these people and he loves them, so am I commissioned to do by my Lord and savior Jesus Christ. “Love your God with all your heart soul body and mind, and love… Read more »

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disenchanted

Left/Right – What a waste of energy. Who’s right, who’s wrong. Instead of pointing fingers at each other, we should be looking at who’s pulling the strings. Both parties have been usurped and represent very little of what made this country great in the past. As long as we don’t move past that, it’s over. I think everyone could agree that the political climate has moved past civil, by both sides. You know why? Because as long as one candidate is “better” than the other, they’ll get a vote. So the politicians point fingers and their supporters do the exact same thing, while the office holders laugh all the way to the bank.

We are all suckers.

disenchanted
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disenchanted

Left/Right – What a waste of energy. Who’s right, who’s wrong. Instead of pointing fingers at each other, we should be looking at who’s pulling the strings. Both parties have been usurped and represent very little of what made this country great in the past. As long as we don’t move past that, it’s over. I think everyone could agree that the political climate has moved past civil, by both sides. You know why? Because as long as one candidate is “better” than the other, they’ll get a vote. So the politicians point fingers and their supporters do the exact same thing, while the office holders laugh all the way to the bank.

We are all suckers.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Exactly that’s why you should get on board with the Tea Party, hear hear!

nanibold
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nanibold

She says that she hates violence and hates war. She speaks of truth and love and God.

At the same time, she uses war metaphors to describe common political scenarios. She is a staunch advocate of military action against other countries, or fuzzy groups of people. She opposes weapons restrictions at every turn. She tells her political followers to “reload”, and then publishes a map with crosshairs identifying her enemies.

And then, one of them ends up being killed by a nutcase with a hand-held automatic weapon.

She cannot seriously claim to be offended when people give her a hard time about all this.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

Look, I’m getting really tired of people attacking Sarah. This is a woman who is trying to bring reason to an unreasonable society. It’s well known that she has fought tirelessly for our rights. She is a free speech advocate, championing transparency in government. She wants to free us from over-regulation which led to the financial problems we have faced in the last two years. She gave alaska many years of diligent service with no regard to her well-being. And she’s helping to educate americans how to be self sufficient with our god given resources. Most americans don’t know how to hunt so she takes time out of her busy day to show us how to feed ourselves. Lay off.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Is doing the right thing lost on the conservatives? You can be hyperbolic about the issue as conservatives tend to do and claim this means liberals are going to take your rights away which is silly. Or you can remember that your parents raised you better then this and all the talk of shooting, reloading and “targeting” Democrats as if they are some sort of enemy is foolish. Yes it’s within your rights to say these things but the talk has gotten out of hand and it’s no shock to anyone that deranged people could interpret this kind of toxic talk as a call to arms.

This is not a Liberal or Conservative issue, it’s a decency issue.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

Of course conservatives are doing the right thing. We’re not the right-wing for being wrong. If you can detach yourself from your partisanship, you will clearly see we are within reason on every issue that affects americans on a daily basis. If democrats had any sense of patriotism, you wouldn’t be questioning us. You would agree, without argument and adopt our point of views. It’s all about being independent and having diverse ideas. Conservatism is decency defined.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

Of course conservatives are doing the right thing. We’re not the right-wing for being wrong. If you can detach yourself from your partisanship, you will clearly see we are within reason on every issue that affects americans on a daily basis. If democrats had any sense of patriotism, you wouldn’t be questioning us. You would agree, without argument and adopt our point of views. It’s all about being independent and having diverse ideas. Conservatism is decency defined.

Misheffield
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Misheffield

Palin and Beck don’t have the combine IQ of my coffee cup. Shaddup already.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

I think your grammar is a little off. It’s “combined”.If you’re going to insult the intelligence of Palin and Beck, attention to details will go a long way. For the record, Palin was educated in at least five different colleges in various states. So obviously, she is well educated and well traveled. Beck has read a lot of books so it’s more than obvious that he is really smart. Hope this educates you on these outstanding patriots you think are stupid.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

I think your grammar is a little off. It’s “combined”.If you’re going to insult the intelligence of Palin and Beck, attention to details will go a long way. For the record, Palin was educated in at least five different colleges in various states. So obviously, she is well educated and well traveled. Beck has read a lot of books so it’s more than obvious that he is really smart. Hope this educates you on these outstanding patriots you think are stupid.

Rshill7
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Rshill7

And you do???

Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

MM
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MM

Y’all are crazy.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

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Anonymous
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Anonymous

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Anonymous
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Anonymous

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Anonymous
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Anonymous

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KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I was wondering how long it would take for something along this line to come out. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I was wondering how long it would take for something along this line to come out. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I was wondering how long it would take for something along this line to come out. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

KenInMontana
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KenInMontana

I was wondering how long it would take for something along this line to come out. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

Nad
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Nad

if ur sticking up for SP; u must be being paid by her or a staunch repugnant-republican! she has a LOT to do with this mess. She’s just trying to cop out of it.

AdjectiveAnimal
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AdjectiveAnimal

I can’t help but notice that this site’s moderators seem to have no interest in dissenting opinion.. dismissing anyone who disagrees with them as trolls, asses, monkeys, etc. Why not just discuss why you think they’re wrong, instead of deleting their comments and then insulting them? Wouldn’t that be the right thing to do?

AdjectiveAnimal
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AdjectiveAnimal

I can’t help but notice that this site’s moderators seem to have no interest in dissenting opinion.. dismissing anyone who disagrees with them as trolls, asses, monkeys, etc. Why not just discuss why you think they’re wrong, instead of deleting their comments and then insulting them? Wouldn’t that be the right thing to do?

DisturbingBehavior
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DisturbingBehavior

Because the internet is like a high school, but worse as everybody can speak anonymously without regard for their comments. There have been many others who have come here in the past and we’ve discussed things in a civil manner. Many here disagree on specific issues, but most seek less government interference in their lives. If it wasn’t for others trying to come here and antagonize those they view as enemies, the majority of the last few topics would have less than 20 comments, a few pointing out fallacies in the political blame game, but many expressing their sympathy for those who suffered for this tragedy. It’s unusual that many of these posts get over 20 comments, but in the last 2 days there are several over 50, if not 100 comments due to antagonists who only come for some sick twisted game. Basically, I’m not posting on leftwing blog… Read more »

Caligulove
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Caligulove

Ha ha, incredibly funny. A “patriot” kills a democrat, and of course the Left is to blame.

Caligulove
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Caligulove

Ha ha, incredibly funny. A “patriot” kills a democrat, and of course the Left is to blame.

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

I’m ashamed that right-leaning peace lovers are being demonized as inciting hate and terror. No one has worked more tirelessly to unite this country than conservatives. Our message of love, tolerance and compassion have been received with deaf ears by the democrats who are constantly waging war and making scapegoats out of muslims and even ordinary americans who oppose their pro-corporate agenda. We must work tirelessly to get our message of love and tolerance out to the masses via Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck. Let truth be a guiding light in these oppressive times.

damon341
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damon341

Nice try but no cigar!

Bob Moobs
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Bob Moobs

I’m being dead serious here Damon. We’re trying to bring the left into the age of love and reason but they’re being stubborn and refuse to join us. If the left would listen to more FOX news, it would be very clear that our message of compassion is a beacon of light and hope.

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